A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show, will be taking you outside the box, behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. And now Doctor Kevin, Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Doctor Kevin Show here on Own Time. And this is a got that combination
of a suite and a sadness and all sorts of emotions. For this is the last Doctor Kevin Show on Home Time, and I have resurrected from the archives none other than the Reverend Lord every Powers Auto who her and I are gonna kind of take this kind of fill you in and take this show out. Before we do that, and before I welcome Laurie, I want to start by thanking everybody at my Own Time's family. You know, I think I've been here seven years now, I'm not even sure it's time just kind
of goes. And I want to thank them for all their support, all their you know, promotions, all their everything. And you know, if you are somebody who is feeling like your radio is calling to you and that this is the medium for you, then make sure that you reach out to Chris at Own Times and let him know because they are certainly you know,
we'll we'll set you up and treat your right. So I want to start with that and put it out there that even though i'm kind of yet again shifting and moving that I got, I just you know, I'm so grateful for the time that I've had here on Home Times, and now I want to welcome back a voice from the past, Miss Lauri, Miss Laurie. Are you there? I am here, Kevin. Oh, it's good to be back, and thank you for letting me be here for this bittersweet you
know, your last show on Home Time greatly. You know, there's there's nobody that's more perfect and this send off than you are. Excuse me, So I just you know, and I'm kind of sort of turning the show over to you too. I mean, well, first of all, I want to check in before you start like kind of interviewing me as kind of like what's going on and what's happening, because I'm sure I've got some listeners out there going what But before that, you know, you've been you you
had some personal stuff going on, you needed to back away. That was several months ago, though, you and I stay in touch as we will always stay in touch. Hell, you can't even die and get rid of me because I'll just you know, do mediumship and vice versa. So like we're stuck with each other. Yeah, you know, you know. I mean, I figure when we're both dead and gone, then we'll move on into new soul lives and then we'll figure out, you know, we'll find
each other in that next lifetime right the way down. That's say, can't get rid of me? Well, right back at you, you can't get rid of me either, so you know, so we're even. But anyways, do you want to share a little bit about like what's going on with you and where are you these days? Is there I mean, like exciting news or anything, because I know my listeners would want to know. Yeah, I'm well with everything going on. I've gotten my health back, so
that's a big thing. But Billy exciting thing I really have is I will be releasing my third book on February eighteenth, and it is called God Is not what you think, nye? What the hell we will definitely be doing in some future incarnation of me on the radio? How you on talking all about that? I'm looking forward for it coming out. Remind the listeners of
your first two books. One is We Can Save Her Mother Earth's Climate Change in US, which isn't just about climate change, it is about our relationship with ourselves, each other and the planet. And my second book, and it always amazes me that people think they're so very different that they aren't. And it's called It's the Little Things two hundred plus Ways to Save Money, and it is actually two hundred and twenty seven easy, easy, easy ways
that everybody can save money. And if people just implement just a handful of them, they will be astounded at how much money they can save. And I cover everything from groceries to travel, to pets, the kids, the cars, I mean, the whole gamut. So those are my books, and of course they're on Amazon, because everything's on Amazon. But this show is this show is about you, and I want to talk about you. Okay, Well, you know I would say that I was born and ready,
but who knows. It wasn't like I was there. Well, I mean, I get some part of me was there, but you know exactly only a little of me slipped through at the beginning, you know, because you know that's the boring part. I mean, like, how exciting is it there? For all out of the cave and go shit, I'm back here again. No, for some of those that was exactly the response.
No, like you said earlier, you've been on Home Times, you think seven years ish, right, but you've been doing radio and podcasting for a very long time, haven't you. Yeah. So you know, it's funny because I've been saying for the last few years, you know, I've been
on air for fifteen years and then it was sixteen years. But you know, the funny thing is when it came time for me to do kind of fold in and re emerge, which is what's happening that I went back to actually look back to my oldest archives to see exactly when did I start, And what I discovered was I actually started in two thousand and four. Wow, So I've actually been on some form of being on air for twenty years.
And I had said once a few years back, I'm like, you know, I loved my radio show, but I also you know, I've had a lot of different different kinds of shows and that, you know, but it would be great to you know, make sure I get it to twenty years. You know, like somehow that was some magic number, and I just realized it's been twenty years. Well your goals that you got back on, right, Yeah, though, you know, I do want to
make it, you know known to my my listeners. You know, I am going to be taking a hiatus and I'm going to do something that I've done off and on through the whole twenty years, which is I change format, I change the way things. I changed the title of the show.
The show's had several different titles through the years, and I've had several different co hosts through the years, and you know, several different So there's always a time where you have to withdraw, re you know, recreate, re imagine and come back out and and and and hopefully what will be a new and improved version of yourself. But yeah, it's it's I looked back and found it was twenty years ago and my first thing was through a company called
Activate, which I don't even think exists anymore. But yeah, so there's there's there. There is that I actually finally did the research instead of pulling numbers out of my head on some other part, there's somewhere. But what I love about this is you had a dream, you followed it, but you weren't afraid to shake it up. Because we both know people who are stuck in ruts doing what they love but now hate because they're afraid to take that step back or to reform it, or to you know, improve it
in some way. But I'm really curious to know what got you started on this path. I mean, what made you say this is where I want to go. So blame it on Dolly. Blame it on Dolly Parton. Okay, I mean, you know, if you've got to have to blame it on somebody, I mean, Dolly's as good as anyone. I mean, who doesn't love Dolly? Right? I So literally what made me fall in love with the idea to have a radio show before I ever had a radio show, was watching a movie called Straight Talk. Do you, by
any chance did you ever see Do you remember that movie? Sounds offully familiar. I must have seen it, because I'm I'm pretty sure I have, but I can't. I'm not placing it right now. So straight Talk, which I love, I still watch it every now and then. You know, every few years, I'll haul it out and watch it. It's with
Dolly Parton and James Wood. And it's a very simple premise, this down on her luck southern dance instructor who's in a just a kind of an unhealthy not not like big time abusive, but just not a good, healthy relationship. And she finally is tired of this guy that she is living with using her and she decides to move in, to move out, to pack her
stuff. And she's a dance instructor in a small southern town and she goes to la and she goes to apply to see if she can get a job as a receptionist at a radio station, and they mistake her for a radio psychologist who is coming in to do a new show. And the radio psychologists are supposed to come in change her mind and just blew them off and never told them, and she walks in and they stick her in front of a
radio mic, thinking that she's the person I love it. And so, you know, the whole thing is is you know, part of the promise is is one of the things that she keeps on getting in trouble as a as a dance teacher, is she is giving advice to all these guys she's teaching how to dance. She's you know, you see her at the beginning, she's like, oh, don't feel that way about yourself, and you a lot to offer, and if she can't see it, well it's her
loss. And you know, and she like lifted all the spirits. But her boss was like less talk and more you know, like stuff like this. But her her dance clients loved her. So when she goes on here and it's a live call in show, she starts giving good old fashioned common sense answers. I love it, and you know, and then eventually it comes out and you know that she's not really a radio psychologist, but everybody loves her and you know, and so it's this great movie. It's a
feel good movie. But out of that movie came the first time I ever heard it, this woman calls in and goes, it's just going on and on and she's going, you know, my husband is mean to me, and my TI mean to me, and nobody listens to me. And she's
like, and it's allays like, honey, get off the cross. We need the wood, I guess, and you know, you know, so she's she's doing this good old like earthy kind of common sense and I was like, you know, and she takes on this radio psychologist on a panel who uses all these high fluten words and all of this stuff, and she basically tells him way to stick it, because you know, she's never been trained. And so that's what made me want to have a radio show.
I wanted to have a radio show to just friggin give people good advice and common sense, Like there's so many people out there that are not really calling it as they see it. The funny thing is, in twenty years, I've never had that format for the radio show, but that was my first That was the first thought of what I wanted my radio show to be. Well, what types of shows did you have? I mean, we all know this one, but what else did you have? So the first one
my first round of shows, and it stayed outside the box. It was actually outside the box with doctor Kevin and dar Jane, and dar Jane was, uh, you've heard me talk about her through the years. She I called her my spiritual wife. She was my first spiritual business partner. We used to tease that she was sister Mary Jane because she was raised Catholic and we would just talk about you know, we did the show together because I didn't have the ability. I could have people email me questions, but the
first place I started didn't have the ability to have collins. And so we would talk about things going on in the world and try to take people outside
the box and give them a different perspective. And that first show, which lasted for a couple of years, you know, I would be the outrageous one and dar Jane would be the voice of reason, and I would get all upset by some Shenanigan that some church polls, you know, doing really un Christian like things, and I'd go at Christians and she's like, now, stop, you can't say that you're making all the Christians on the same you know better that, and she'd get right back in my face on me.
We'd go back and forth, but it was always in a semi funny but loving but really powerful way. And that was the kickoff, and I fell in love with having a radio show. And that was, like I said, it started in twenty to two thousand and four. Nice. Nice And obviously you have done TV, because I know because I coasted with you for a year and a half. But yeah, you've done multiple TV shows.
Yeah, so you know, I started with the activate, and I was on Voice America for a while, and I was on another station and I don't remember. I don't remember what that station was. And then I was on CBS Radio and I was on CBS Radio for a while. But by that point, dar Jane had kind of she kind of gone in and
out, and so the format changed a little bit. And then she would show up sometime, but she didn't quite I mean, she always loved having us like she always loved it when we did a show together, but she didn't want to commit to doing a weekly show. Thanks, yep. And just before CBS Radio, and I'm trying to remember who I was on with at that point that I was on with another group that brought me in because I didn't want to renew my contract. I was unhappy with my producers and
I didn't want to renew a contract. But it was before CBS Radio. But there was a period where I did five shows a week. Ah, did I a lot? Had Had I ever shared that with you? No? I didn't know that. Yep, I did about a year of five shows a week, And I don't know if I can remember, because every show had a different title. So I'm trying to remember, because this has to be fifteen years ago at least. And I know that my Monday was
like outside the box. My Tuesday, I think was my planetary influences, and I and you know, and I know that Friday, and then through the spiritual lens was Wednesday, and I can't remember what Thursday was. And then Friday was when I first created the whole concept of you know how in the Doctor Kevin Show, we had the three segments and the first segment was outside of the Box, and then behind the curtain was Thursday. And then my Friday show was what a load of Crap? So I had a weekly
show that was what a load of crap? A weekly show that was behind you know. So they were all under the Doctor Kevin Austice, but they had their unique themes for each of the shows, right right. Oh that's a lot. I don't think people understand how much work it is to do a radio show, but to do it five days a week, that is an insane amount of work. Yeah, and at that point I only was doing I did. I cut it back so it's so it's a half an
hour show, But that's still a lot. I definitely burned out on that, but it was doing the five days week that somehow crossed me up to get on to CBS Radio. Why they and they did not and I so I was doing CBS but if I was going to go on CBS Radio, they I needed to not be doing the other four days a week somewhere else. That was part of their contract with me. So that's why it ended.
But CBS Radio was too good because it gave me a coast to coast audience right right right, Well, now, how did you get from CBS Radio to own times? So I had a contractual dispute with CBS Radio. They offered me a renewal, but they wanted to change my time slot and they also wanted to put some limitations on my content. Yeah, And I mean like they were all set. I mean like when I went in and
said I'm not signing this contract. I went on and technically because we went back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, and I and I think that they thought I was going to give in, and they made a couple of adjustments, but their content issue, there was a content issue you and they and I just went in and I just live on air, said okay, you know my contract is up with CBS Radio. I'm done.
Follow me here. I moved it into a podcast for a while and I said, and I'm done, and thank you CBS Radio, but I'm done. And that's how cee guess Radio found out because they literally had had a contract. But I told him I wouldn't find it if they changed it, and they played they kind of played chicken with me on it, and
I said, I'm done. And the real thing was this was back I don't know if you remember it, and part of it was about about I would be too controversial, and they weren't promoting controversial radio shows at that point. I mean, you always had your shock jobs, and you always had
some people, but some stations rolled that way and some didn't. And I was never a shock jock, but I was very controversial, right and just I mean that still is a sad fond radio or TV or and TV when they're afraid of the controversial, when they you know, count out to the you know it has to be this way and you can't say or do this
or that. It makes me crazy. It's been good for you. Well, they had the reason that they were willing to keep me, but move my spot was I was in a more prime time spot and a couple of the sponsors, but the radio show complained about me, and one of the big complaints was I was going at, going at, going at the State
of Texas because they had This is when that controversy first broke. And I don't know why, what, how the state of Texas or what in Texas or what their actual Texas connection was, because it was never explained to me, but that somehow there was complaints because I was telling the kids who were getting the new Houghton Mifflin created by Texas books that basically was historically incorrect for
history books. Oh no worries how Texas was wanted to tell the history and this was like the first state that did that and they were getting away with it. Still then I called them out. Yep, they still do. I still think that it should be illegal. But I was every show I would do a little piece of how the kids that graduate should go back and sue Texas and that they should be a class action suit. And I said that they should, you know, and I was like, you should bankrupt
Texas for this. They have messed with your education. They're not giving you correct information. You could do a class action suit. I even had talked to a lawyer who said, well, yeah, technically they could do a class action suit if there was you know, like blah blah blah. And I was on a soapbox. In fact, the radio station had the sound of a soapbox of this like creaking sound, which was me. They were
like, there goes doctor Kevin. He's back on his soapbox. I know it's hard to believe, Laurie. I'm sure I can't imagine, but I mean, yeah, yeah, they said, we can move you to a later slot. But the sponsors that we have for that slot, that that like, were the regular advertiser sponsors for the slot or whatever, said I had to stop going after Texas. Well. I was like, that's not going to happen. Well, that's not censorship. Well you moved on,
thank you. I moved on, and you're still here. I'm still here. And I did a brief for a year or so where I got together with this guy who had all of this new technology and he met me because I was teaching at an MBA level boot camp for entrepreneurs and he was one of my entrepreneurs. And he offered to set me up with my own radio station on an internet platform, and I tried doing a station for a year that had like seven or eight shows of different people shows, and I was
always trying to bring in new hosts. I was trying to do kind of what Home Times did, but I was also trying to run my practice. I was trying to do it all by myself. I was also teaching, and I mean I had some really great shows. I had some great people that were there and doing shows on the station. It was DKRN Doctor Kevin Radio Network. I love it, and that yep, and that was the
platform. And I can't remember. I think I had seven or eight other co hosts and I was trying to expand it, but I couldn't do it all. I just literally reached a boundary where I couldn't do it all.
And the guy with the technology connected with Chris here at all times, and I let DKRN go and I came on to Own Times, and you know, like I said at the beginning of the show, I you know, I look, I thank them for like all of the support, and you know, I have missed my share of shows in the last especially twelve or eighteen months, as I was also dealing with some health issues and just had times where it's just like I just I wasn't able to keep everything. I
couldn't keep all the balls in the air. And they were always very understanding and very kind about it. Nice nice, So yeah, so that's how it started. But it started a little company called the Activate offering me my own show. Nice and Me and Miss darr Jane duke in it out over everything and anything in the sun. I mean we agreed it. We agreed on a lot, but you know, and yeah, but I never got my straight talk show. I never got a my call in for advice show.
You know, there's still time. But I mean, you, so you've been on air for twenty years. You have got to have some amazing interviews or stories or people that you've come to know or add on air. Tell me some of those. I mean, well, yeah, so, I mean you had mentioned before because I had Web of Light where you co hosted with me for was it a year and a half of the three years? Two years? Two a year and a half of the sea of the
three years? Because I had Web of Light, Yeah, and that was a TV show which by the end of it was Coast to coast through the uh oh uh not public service network help me here, Laur, through the uh hu'son public television. Yeah, public television, but I worked at SO I had public television stations from Maine to California who carried Web of Life,
so you know, at the end of it, we did that. And then I also had the TV show Dragon, j Unicorns and other Creative Creatures, right right, yeah, yeah, for buy and about artists, creatives actually creatives of any kind. Yeah, and I was that TV show for two years. Huh. That's some stories, well, you know, the most some of the most interesting people that I had on my radio show and on my TV show. And then I had a Facebook TV show called Laughing,
Loving, and Alive. And of course there was a time when I had both showed TV shows going and the radio show going, so I was doing like crazy media stuff. But my favorite stories are the stories of the people that would come in and got what I was trying to do for them, which is, you know, I would send this letter out and I would say to people, look, don't come in and just do a hard
style on whatever it is. You do, whatever it is, you produce, whatever it is that you're promoting a book or whatever, come in and show people who you are. Yeah yeah, And along the way, we'll make sure they check you out. We'll know, we'll let them know. What is it that you offer, what is it that you teach? And so when I think of some of the stories, I think of the people who maybe weren't famous, you know, you know, they weren't they didn't
have best sellers, they weren't celebrities. I had a few celebrities along the way at different times, Sean, I don't know. I mean, there were some celebrity people here and there, But my big thing was ever celebrities. It was always about people who I felt like had a story that could inspire or motivate people, right right, yeah, give hop Yeah, that's people who make other people realize that it's okay to have their hopes and their dreams too. You're really good at that, you know, thank you.
You know, I had some very seasoned gas through the years, and you know, and I had ebb and flows in all the places I went. Times when my show was hot and on a street and booking the guest and doing the stuff and everything was easy and stuff like that, and then I had periods where I might get, for whatever reason, lost in the weeds. It's hard to say I was perfectly consistent for twenty years. That would be a lie for everybody you know. No, perfectly consistent for twenty years,
It just doesn't happen. But I always the people that stay with me are the people that there was the woman who survived going from being raised in an abusive household to going to an abusive marriage, to escaping both of them, to writing a book, to starting a nonprofit to help. In fact, I think you were on that show, hosted that show with me.
Yeah, I mean yeah, she stands out to me. Some of the other people you know, uh, who were I always remember Nicole Brandon, and Nicole did a few shows with me, and Nicole actually had her own TV show, and she had her own radio show, and I guested on her TV show, and I guessed it on her radio show, and she
guested on my radio show, and that she was. She was somebody who had had a lot of early successes as a child and a young adult in theater and in movies and in winning pageants, and then had a crash and had to come back and had to move forward and reput her life together and reset her priorities and got into following a much more spiritual path. And you know what she could share from that. I loved this guy that I had
on and I had him on for series. And I used to do series sometimes where I would have somebody that I felt like had a lot to offer and would do a little series. I think I did a series on own Times that you were involved with, which was like with the maturo path. Is that ringing any bells? We could be wrong? M M. I know we did a show with a naturopath. I don't know if we did a couple. Yeah, there was a naturopath Mary and killing back doctor Mary
and killing Beck and she did now I'm trying to cross over. Did she do radio shows with me and TV shows? Or radio and or TV shows? But she really brought a lot of different perspectives from an alternative somebody you know as the naturopathic doctor explained a lot of stuff, gave people simple things they could do and different ways to see and do things that always stood out to me. And I'm gonna say right up front that go ahead, I'm
looking and had a break. I'm surprised usually we would have have had a break by now. So yeah. So, And I have to say some of my favorite shows had to do with my co hosts, You and I. We had some incredible shows where it was just you and I, yeah,
talking about stuff. I had some incredible shows with Matt Matt Connerton, who who has been involved with a lot of my different radio and TV shows, And from the perspective of I really believed, and I still really do believe that when Matt tried to give a here is a view of politics, that here's a view of politics which didn't which wasn't either left or right.
And it got harder obviously once we got into magaland right. But I always appreciated that he could he he could bring out and make people try to have better critical thinking skills around this as the less you know, just engaged into repeating things right. That's definitely one of Matt's strong suits. He had an old school reporters way where he puts the facts out there and doesn't try to tell you how to think about it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
yeah, and I think that that that was it. Some of my favorite shows were also when I was doing the regular poetry shows M and I think we only did I mean, we did some of them. But I had a period where I had somebody that came on once a month regularly and she was a poet, and we got other poets to call in. And it was back when I was living in Arizona, and I'm trying to I think I was on Home times at that point, but it might have been the place I was before initially, and that it was that I got to
listen to. I got to, oh, I'm having some kind of feedback here. I got as you listen to, I got to listen to other people's poetry. I got to share my poetry. We got to talk to meaning and the story behind it. And of course, as you know, my poetry is always a big deal for me. Yeah, as something that I want to share and I want people to share their poetry. And being able to give artists of any kind, whether it was on the TV show or the radio show, giving artists a chance to expose, to share their
art, to share their creativity. We're always some of my favorite shows. Nice. So what's the plan going forward? Right? What are we think it? Well, well, you know I'm going to be working on I'm going to take some time off. And I do this every now and then. I think two years ago, I think I took the summer off and Home Times was very gracious about just letting me do replays for the summer because every now and then again I got to freshen up, yes, and I've
got to kind of redo things. And so I am in the process of taking a break, like I said, you know, last year, as you know, and I've made a few references occasionally on the radio show, but I had a lot of health issues last year, and I'm you know, back in the saddle, but still kind of catching up and moving forward in that saddle. And as you know, because you also had some struggles, there's a lot of things that kind of get pushed to the wayside.
And so I'm in the middle of a huge number of life changes right now. And what I want to say to people is go to the Doctor Kevin's
Show Facebook page. As I look to reinvent myself and I've been making a com I've been making, you know, I've had several shows with Ashley Oldstein on who is going to come in and co host with me when it's time to launch the show again, and we're kind of looking at some different formats and setting up things differently, maybe resurrecting some stuff I haven't done for a while. And I think the show is going to be a little less guest
focused. There'll still be guests, but I'm kind of playing with the idea and again, go to Facebook, put in the Doctor Kevin Show if you have weigh ins, especially people that have been following me for a long time, maybe have jumped venues with me, so to speak. Venues not the right word, but it works. As I've kind of revamped and redone myself that I'm certainly open to. Hey, you know you used to do this,
like I used to do a quote every show. Yeah, that was I think before you or were you on the when I did the quote thing, because I've gone off and on on it. You did it at the beginning that I've heard you do it, you know before. Yeah, when I was still back living in Phoenix, I spent time every week going through and coming up and I kept a whole file of quotes that I felt were
inspiring or motivating or thought provoking. And I was really into trying to engage my listeners into always thinking outside the box or or having a different experience with things. And so I'm moving back, and what I want to say to people is again, go to the Facebook the Doctor Kevin Show, make sure you like it, make sure you follow it. That's where all the announcements
will come out when all the dust is settled. I'm taking a little time off, but you know, it's not like I'm going to take the rest of the year off. Not my style. But I've got a lot of things that i want to like kind of set up. So I'm in some conversations with Ashley about you know, what she brings to the show. You know, Ashley. Yes, in fact, you were the one when you had to step away from co host. You were the one that said to me you could choose you consider Ashley. Do you remember that. I do
remember that. I just think she's got great energy. Yeah, she's a good match for you. And so if you ever wondered if I listened to you, there there's your proof. Well, thank you. Is I don't know that we're going to resurrect the quote thing that we've talked about it. I think we're going to maybe do a little astrological reminder, so we'll still have the astrology show once a month, but maybe every week we'll remind people what's going on that week, because one month is an awful lot of astrology
to try to absorb. But maybe do a little reminder after this week this is going into here, so you know, you can go back and listen to the show if you want, but just his' a little reminder. But I think I'm going to go back a little well, definitely a little closer to the early me and dar Jane days where Ashley and I will do maybe the first fifteen minutes of kind of chatting and talking about stuff, then have a guest for a half an hour, and then have fifteen minutes wrap up.
I don't know, what do you think about that format. I think it's a great format that's worked really well when you and I have done it that way, so I you know, I think it works really well because then it's not too much pressure on anybody and you're still you know, you guys are still the star of the show, highlighting somebody up. Does that makes sense? Yeah? And I really want to be you know, I've been interviewed on more radio shows and more TV shows than I can count I've
sat in the guest seat a thousand and one time. In fact, I met you because you were co hosting a TV show and I was a guest on it. Yeah, well, you just kind of crashed that TV show. But I think you were not our scheduled guest. You just showed up and we brought your right in and you and I hit it right on it. Yeah. Well, you know, I had an open invitation from your co host on that show. You just never met me to to gate crash whenever I was in town, because I didn't live here at the time,
right right, Oh, I know I was in Yep. Norm Moody, I help drive m oh, I'm sure he is somewhere. So yeah, so I'm kind of again, you know, I'm kicking some stuff around. But I think that I originally wanted to do radio because I wanted to share
my gifts and talent. And I think that at some point around along the way, I though I have had guests, and I started to say this before, I have had guests multiple times, Like I can't count how many that I've had people that were seasoned interviewees that came and said, you are one of the best interviewers I ever had, because I would not give them
the canned questions. I would not ask them what they're publicists sent. I would really try to engage them into meaningful conversations that could allow the audience to fall in love with them. Yes, and I have heard so many times people say that was one of the best interviews I ever had. Nice, And on one hand, that's great. On the other hand, I really wanted to share what I have to share with the world, and I need to build that up in the new format. There is our sound, Laurie.
Thank you so much. I'm sure I will see you on the new show at some point. Yes. Yes, And to all my listeners out there into own times, thank you so much. I truly am grateful for all the opportunity I've had here and listeners, Facebook, dot Com, Backslash The Doctor Kevin Show just like it, watch it and as news is created, you'll get it there first. Thank you. And signing off for the last show of The Doctor Kevin Show on Home Time, grateful. It's been a blessing and I'm much say