A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show. We'll be taking you outside the box, behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. And now Doctor Kevin. Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Times, where we're changing the world wait for it, one oh at a time. I'd like to remind all of our listeners that we are a live call in show and you can call in and
become part of the conversation, ask questions, share thoughts. The number you would call is two O two five seven H seven O five seven O. God, that's two O two five seven H seven H seven. And the only thing we ever ask is that you're respectful or we do have a hang up button. It's not one of those shows. So this week on the Doctor Kevin Show, I'm going to call him. I'm going to refer to
him as a young man. We have Gordon Phillips. Gordon is seventy seven years young and has reached that age without any kind of health issues, on no kinds of medication. I'm functioning in the world like he's more like in his fifties, the fifties that happened just before everything falls apart. We've been invited Gordon to join us this week because in that seventy seven years he has had a plus or of experience and opportunities, but also some insights and guidance
in some wisdom. And I always say the proof is in the pudding, and a serving of Gordon pudding I thought was just what my listeners needed this week. Gordon, welcome, Well, thank you sir. That was That was a great, great inter I appreciate it. But I have to point out to your listeners that I attributed all to my longevity and youth to all the drugs I took back during the Summer of Love. Ah, I'm only kidd and I never did drugs, so it was probably the only hippie who
didn't, actually was I was the oddball in the community. I kind of liked my state of consciousness and didn't want to alter it, but everybody around me was pretty pretty flipped out, That's that's for sure, back on those days. You know, I find that very interesting because I have through the years, you know, led people on journeys and fission quests, and stuff like this, and you know, quite often there know people want to have
hallucinogenics or something involved as part of the process to let go. And I, you know, and I don't say that I oppose that. I think everybody should have the right to choose what they want to do with their body. And it's really nobody else's damn business. You know. I tried to I've always tried to encourage my students along the way that says I can have a better high off of drugs or hallucigenus of any kind then you will ever have on them. Oh, I hear that completely, totally. Yeah,
I've been meditating. I was initiated into transcendental meditation in nineteen seventy one, and I've been I've been meditating, not consistently, but well fairly consistently, not every single day all these years since. And I've experienced moments of consciousness and awareness that we're astonishing, just me alone in a room meditating. Yeah.
Yeah, so I hear you completely well. And you know how from how I look at the world, we can be physically alone in the room, but we're never alone, no, no, So we live, we live in a universal field of consciousness that I receive on the Gordon channel and you receive on the Kevin channel. Right, so we're all on the same channel, so to speak. But you're never alone. And when everything's connected
and you're an eternal being, how could you ever be truly alone? Yeah, you know, absolutely, And it is about allowing yourself to get rid of that that's between you and the everything you're a part of, the one million things you mean between you. Yeah, all the problems and all the tapes running in your head. And you know, like the Smothers memb audience was too young to remember. The Smothers Brothers used to be a kind of a fun remember, yeah, I one of them always said Mom loved you
best. It was really a funny line. But we all, we all have those tapes running in our heads of inadequacy and fear and the inability to represent ourselves well in the world and all these you know, they call it the monkey mind. You know, you go to meditate and all these thoughts come rushing in of what you didn't do yesterday and what you've got to do tomorrow. And it's so easy to let life get in the way of being alive. If you want to put it that way. Yeah, I just
throw the monkey and banana and it goes away. Yeah, and that's just don't step on the peel when he's done. That's all right, Yeah, don't step on the peel on the way out the door. Yeah, that's funny. So in our first segment, you know, and I usually oftentimes I've been not doing it quite as consistently as I used to do that. Again, I've been I've had my show for almost eighteen years, so I'm
not going to always be the bastion of consistency. Is a hot topic, but you kind of invited me to throw out in our exchange before you came on air. Just so sometimes my listeners know that I know somebody in advance, or that I've never met some not that it makes any difference. Gordon, I have never met. We exchanged a couple of emails when he agreed to be on the show, but he said, you know what about this for a hot topic, and I'm going to throw it to let Gordon open
up the hot topic segment. For those of you who may be new listeners on The Doctor Kevin Show, the hot topic is either something that warms the cockles of my heart burns my yeah. Yeah, but yes, no, sorry, you're from parts. You're gluteus maximus. Yes, and some days it's a little more maximust than others. Those days are minimus. We call those minimus days. Yeah, but go ahead. Yeah, So share your hot topic. Well, the hot topic that I came on ostensibly I love
that word to talk about was was health and wellness related. But the other thing that I've been doing for thirty years is I'm a financial and small business financial risk management consultant. You might say, well, what the heck do those two things have to do with each other? But I guess I would point out that the world's wealthiest billionaires on their deathbeds would probably give every dime if they could live in really good health and energy for another, you know,
ten or twenty years. So without health and wellness, you know, money is kind of takes us back seat, at least it does in my world. But those are the connections anyway for me. So which would you like me to talk about first? Well, I'm actually going to jump right on what you said because we do a lot of free wheel in here the Doctor Kevin Show, which is I was last week week before I don't know.
Sometime in the recent past, I was in Chicago and I went to the Architectural and Science Museum and they had this thing where they had a mental emotional section for mental and emotional health, and they had a physical health section. It's really good. He ever, in Chicago, I'd recommend going.
But it brought the stats out that once somebody is really making enough money for all their basic needs and they don't have to worry at about money, that the increased quality of life at a max, according to their statistical research, is seven percent. You have a seven percent range of which you have a better quality of life, no matter how feely wealthy you've got. And when you said that, it made me think, what do you think about that?
You think that that's a good statistic? You think that's correct? Yeah, I think it probably is correct. I think of it this way. I suppose you make fifty thousand dollars a year, which today isn't anywhere near what it used to be, Right, But you work for forty years and two million dollars comes through your hands. Right, that's just the math.
Fifty thousand times forty years of two million dollars passes through your hands, you get to be sixty five years old, and Social Security informs is the average person has less than four hundred dollars for an emergency, like if your muffler falls off your car, and they look back over the course of their lives and they literally cannot explain where the money went. They don't really understand where the money went. And the truth is that it's just thousands of thousands of
decisions every day, little tiny decisions. You know, do I go through Dunkin Donuts and get a coffee and muffin every day? And the way to work? That's one hundred bucks cash every month. That's twelve hundred a year. That's twelve in ten years. Is that possible? Yes, it is. You know, as you get to the end of your life, you can't account for all the money you went and then you're you're broke, or you're relying upon the government, or you're relying upon friends, and so it's
just the incrementalism. It's the same thing with health, which we were I said, we can talk about that tonight as well. But if you if I was saying to a friend of mine who's a naturopath, I'd do some consulting with her. She's become a friend. She's a great lady here in New Hampshire. And I said, how many mouthfuls of food do you think we take in per meal? She said last I never thought about that before. I said, well, I want online and it looks like, you
know, some people are saying forty. Let's just pick that number. Forty mouthfuls of food you eat three times a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year. Fifty years later, you've eaten two million plus mouthfuls of food, and every single one of those was a decision. Every single one
of those mouthfuls was a nutritional decision. If you take the premise that everything you eat either heals you or kills you, and as the joke goes, you dig your grave whip for the four then you make two million nutritional decisions your lifetime. You get to be in really rough shape, you know, health wise, when you're sixty. It's the same exact analogy as getting to sixty or sixty five and looking back to the thousands of financial decisions you made,
most of which were pretty small. Some are big, like getting the kids into the right school, or what house to buy or so forth. It's the relationship with between those two spheres of people's lives are so similar and interconnected in so many more ways than I think most people realize. Well, you know, one of the things, Gordon, when you were talking about you know, did they decide to stop and get a muffin and a coffee at dunks every day for forty years? I thought, did you figure in
the cost of the number of health issues? Doing that gave them that they had to pay for medications they had to pay for total cost. You're totally correct. You're destroying your cells completely. You know, the cell you got upwards of one hundred trillion, that's one hundred thousand billion, Like we can even get our brains wrapped around that. Every one of those cells has got all these little organ elles and mitochondure, the little power supplies of your body.
Right, the health of your cell is the health of the tissue, and the health of the tissues the health of your organ systems. And if you poison them every day when you're out your life, you don't give them what they need, and they do their best. They struggle on, struggle on. You get into your forties fifties, your immune system starts to get compromised, the inflammation starts to set in. So I was going to share with you during one of these segments an essay that I wrote once called dead
Bacteria Don't Lie. So when we have time, I'll get into that way. I thought you'd find that fun. I absolutely, I'm gonna let you read it in a second. I just want to make a comment on something you said, because you've given me so much to work here with. Gordon A sorry, sorry, I should. I shouldn't have. I should I shouldn't have gone through Dunks for a coffee right before we spoke. Now,
no, I think it's great. I just want people to know that that spoonful of food that make that you make, that choice of that negatively impacts yourselves in your health, is also that spoonful of life, the people you surround yourself with, the things you put up. It's not just did you work forty years? Did you work for forty years or something you loved?
Did you work at forty years or something that that made you get excited to get out of bed, that made you happy, that that got all of those great chemical reactions that happened in a joyful, happy life which strengthens your immune system and strengthened your cells. And you know, so it's not even the spoonfuls of food. It's what, how many spoonfuls of stuff did your swallow that it really shouldn't have had to swallow. Oh no, you can
poison your soul. You can poison your spirit, You can poison your body. You surround yourself with negative people. Their battery drainers. They drain your battery every day, and you're constantly trying to recharge yourself. You know, the old saying, the old chestnut. You know, you are the sum of your five closest friends. You know, if you'll you'll meet the way they do. You'll share the same humor. You probably have the same kinds
of job, same kind of income, same belief systems. Maybe you vote for the same political candidates, go over the same church. You know, so you can change all that, You can change your sphere of influence. It's a conscious choice. But now there are there are two of the deadly sins right there. You just talked about politics and churches, but we won't go into those. We're already running behind and all the stuff we want to cover. Come on, if there's always can't you go ahead, Gordon?
Trust me, I have a feeling we're going to have you back. Ah, well that's my pleasure, sir. So why don't you go ahead and share your essay so we don't run into a million and one other nuts as the squirrels we are, and forget to let that happen. So why don't you go ahead and share the Oh sure, I'm not going to actually read it. We'll take you. I'll just synopsize it for the listeners. Okay, So here here it is. So when you walk right from warning everybody,
this is the Stephen King, you know, uneasy stomach warning. You may want to tune out right now, just for two or three minutes. So you walk past the graveyard, do you dare? Don't need to hear this? Got ahead, Stephen, I beg your pardon. So you go past the graveyard, and you see hundreds and hundreds of tombstones, you know,
some from two hundred years ago, some from last week. But a lot of those people have been there a long time, right, and they were buried in sealed caskets inside steel vaults, right, But you dig them up a hundred years later, what would you expect to see realistically skull and bones. Basically, right, where did they go? Where'd they go? They were in a sealed casket. Where did they go? Well, they were obviously decomposed, right by what? So that's the question I'll put it.
I'll put it to you. Do you know? Teasing you? What happened to their bodies? I'll answer, I'm they were digested by their own microbes, the ones that are waiting inside each of us right this second. We are walking around as walking talking buffet tables all the all the we have about fifty times as many bacteria in our bodies as we do bacterial DNA in our bodies as we do our own DNA. And when you eliminate on the toilet number two, I'll be as polite as I can here, A huge
percentage of that is dead bacteria. So these organisms live inside you your entire life. They live synergistically inside your body, your entire life. And as you get older, and as your tissue becomes acidic, which is natural with aging, and as you develop what's called apoxia, which is less oxygen than ideal, and your immune system can't cope, your terrain gradually becomes more and more polluted. It's the beginning of inflammation. And the day that you assume
room temperature, all those little guys just go to town. And so your job is to hold them off for as long as possible. So there's that's the Stephen King punchline. How do we hold them off as long as possible? Yeah? So weird? Was that weird enough for you? Oh?
I think that that's great. I mean, what I do want to say is that the body's buried in the last twenty or thirty years actually will survive much longer because they have such a natural higher level of formaldehyde that they don't need to embalm them as much, and they're probably a little bit more microbe resistance because we have toxified ourselves so much. That's all I was thinking. Oh, sure, did you know that that's fun that's funny. Do you
know the endpoint of the metabolic breakdown of splendor? You know that that sugar substitute is formaldehyde? Yeah, So you pick you pickle yourself every time you put every time you put some of that sweetener into into your cup of coffee, You're going to going back to the to the Dunkin Donuts meme once again. So your job really is to understand and how to prevent inflammation from developing in your cells while you're healthy. That says once you recognize that inflammation is
the basis of almost all disease. Almost all diseases inflammatory in its early stages, and it all comes down to the health of the cell. The voltage of the cell drops as you age, so different compounds can't move through osmosis through the cell wall. Your blood becomes sluggish and slows down. There's a natural pulse. Here's something really interesting for everybody to know. We were taught in school that when your heart beats, it pumps blood through your body.
I've sent my whole life thinking that, and that's just absolutely not true. Your heart pumps blood through the main veins, venules, arteries, they're called arterials. But if you took all the capillaries in your body and line them up end to end, they would go around the Earth at the equator two and a half times, which is staggering when you think about what the vascular system inside the body looks like. So everyone, those hundred trillion cells has
to be serviced by red blood cells. How do they get into the cells. If your heart would have to pump at a thousand pounds per square inch to get that blood into that entire structure, that's not the way it works. The way those blood cells travel down the capillaries is an electric It's an electromagnetic pulse that the body creates. It's called vasomotion vaso vasomotion. So you're this natural electromagnetic pulse squeezes your red blood cells into their end targets, which
is every cell in your body. But by the time you're in your sixties or seventies, that response has dropped by as much as ninety percent. So I know there's I'm not here to promote. I'm just saying there's a device that I use at home that helps reconstitute that pulse very naturally to like when
you're a teenager. Again, So when you get to be an old coot like me and you're looking as you're staring at eighty years old, how do you have all the energy and the wellness that I'm in better health than I was when I was forty. Honestly, it sounds like an exaggeration people to typically believe you, but you know, if you take the metrics, the blood tests blood sugar and your blood pressure. I've never been on a single
medication my entire life. All my maternal grandparents, almost every one of them had died by the time they reached my age of cancer or heart disease. So it's not like I was born with some kind of superior DNA. But when you learn these simple modalities that give yourselves what they need to stay healthy and get the toxins out of your body, it just changes the game completely. And this isn't something I do for a living. My main area is
in financial consulting. But I'm so enthusiastic about this because so many people are just walking around like the walking wounded these days, and you just you feel compelled to want to share, you know, just your conscience compels you to want to share what you can to help people because you know that it works. So there you go. Well, and so there's a couple of different things I want to say here. So the first thing is what over this?
So so I'm asking you what is the name of this device that recharges the electromagnetic field? Is how I understood you said? Did I catch that correctly? No? You know, you got it pretty much right. It's called pulse electromagnetic field therapy pe m F pulse the electromagnetic frequency. I guess what it is. There's a bunch of companies that make them. There's one company in particular that's a German company called Beamer B E M E R. And what it's a math. It's a math that you lay on eight minutes
in the morning and eight minutes in the evening. And it's beyond non invasive. You could fall asleep while you're laying on it. You could meditate, read a book, whatever. You just lay on the math and it naturally recreates that natural electromagnetic pulse in the body that gets your red blood cells moving.
And the before and after is insane. If you take a blood, a little pinprick of blood from your finger, and you put it on a microscope slide and you look at your blood like they call them dark field or face contrast microscopes at a lot of naturopath offices have them. You actually see your fresh blood right under the under the eyepiece the microscope, all little blood
cells wiggling around. And what you'll what you'll see, what you'll see with most people today is very sluggish, very poor looking blood where the outside of the blood cell almost looks serrated like a bottle cap, like a beer bottle cap, and they're they're all they're all stacked up like poker chips. That's called Rulo syndrome. They've lost a lot of their natural electromagnetic repulsions, so they're not keeping each other apart, so they can move around freely, and
they and the insides are dark. They've lost a lot of the hemoglobe, and so they don't look nice, that nice, cherry plump red that they're supposed to look. So then you get on the beamer for to eight minutes and you take another pin trick of blood, same person, same blood, and they're just rushing around, moving around, looking really great. So I
mean, it's just the proof is right there. Now, there's several other things that I do that are not that technology that create the same effect on the blood as a number of things you can do to get your circulation improved. But that's just something that you know, that's that's what I do. So now I'm gonna if you haven't figured out I'm fairly blunt. So if so, if you want to at when the show is over or when we're
on break. If you have a link to this, oh sure, if you want us post it on the comments on the Doctor Kevin Show on the Facebook page. Okay, sure, I'd be happy to. Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a Beamer distributor, Kevin. I used to be, but I'm not. I'm no longer a Beamer distributor. I mean, I don't. I never went around with a business card saying I'm your Beamer guy. When I've brought these things into my life, I just shared them with everybody I knew and said, man, you got to
get one of these. It's I use another small device that increases the cell voltage. I use a patch I put on my skin every day that helps stimulate your stems, your stem cells. These are all really simple things. I could put a dozen links. I don't want to do that. I'm not here to promote all of this stuff. There is one website I would like to before the show's over to steer people too, because I think the most affordable thing that people can do to help themselves the most is to learn
about this stem cell activation patch. That technology is just just insane. If we have time to talk about it believe we have time to talk about whatever I decide. So you see how it rolls, right, You've got a lot stuff prepared, and then I'm like, yeah, I'm glad you're prepared. Let me just throw it all out. Yeah, pretty much, but I'm okay, let's go over with it. So, you know, in my primary practice, I don't know if you did any research on like my
show or who I am when you accepted it. Some people do, some people don't care. I had, I had the FBI run a deep background check on you became up positive. I thought I felt somebody behind me messing
where they shouldn't be. No, that was the practice scope. But one of the things that I seriously you know, part of my practice, which I've had for thirty three years now is I work as a medical intuitive, and so I'm always looking to check out alternatives that I might not have heard of, both for myself and if they feel appropriate and I get the intuitive hit, it would be good for them that I am always comfortable recommending people
check things out. If I get yeah, this would help sure. So I would love to hear more about this stem cell thing and put that link on the Facebook page. I hear the incoming music. We will be back in a minute with Gordon Phillips, the seventy seven year old twenty seven year
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in the Shoe. Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome back to the Doctor Kevin Show. Here on Home Time. I'm here today with Gordon Phillips. Gordon has had an amazing seventy seven year run of not getting old, not getting sick, and creating a life that I suspect probably brings him a lot of joy. We have not concerned. I can tell you know. People often say to me, what do you do for work? And I go, I don't do work. I do joy. I get up every day and I get to be me and it doesn't get me better than that.
And I can tell when I have met a kindred spirit as in you. So we brought going on to give us some insight or wisdoms that may help those of you that are dealing with health issues, or maybe are not old growing old as gracefully as they would like, or maybe not growing old gracefully at all, or maybe worried about they're not even getting at a chose to grow old. But we've been been pig ponging around as we always do on the Dark Kevin Show, and so tell me a little bit more.
I'm very fascinated themselves. Stuff is fascinated. I do want to say to my listeners that I have heard of the Beamer before, and I knew some people that were doing stuff with the Beamer actually to live in Chicago, but I didn't see them this last time I was there, and you know, I knew they were very enthused. It didn't call me at the time, But when you talked about it today, it felt like today was the day when I went, no, might want to know more about this. I
don't know why, because it's not new. It's not a new technology to me, but now seem to be the time that you struck check this out better? Yeah, would be you circle back and get in touch. The only downside the Beamers is in the range of five thousand dollars. So it's like a lifetime dynasty family purchase. And a lot of people just their their eye face turns white when you tell them the price. But as I like to joke, well you've got you know, you've got a schemobile, You've
got an ATV riding lawnmower, plasma TV and a summer home. You know, maybe you need to sell some of that stuff and buy some of the things that will keep you alive and in good health longer. But the heely some of these technologies are more expensive, but some of them are very affordable. So if I may, I'll tell you about the stem cell patch because it's just it's it's three dollars a day. You want to talk price and the and the effects. Yeah, so well, I learned about this two
years ago from a nurse who's a friend of mine. Her name is Sandra. She lives down in the South and she's got she's got a real twang. I love talking with her on the phone. Matter of fact, she's the one who told me about Beamers. She called one day and said, did I will tell you about beamer And I said what she said? I
thought she meant the car you know. But she also introduced me to the So there's a company called life Wave and the founder, David Schmidt, the CEO and founder, when he was a much young he's in his early fifties. I think about twenties or more. Years ago. He had a contract with the US Navy under some kind of secrecy provision. They were trying to
develop technology for sub mariners who would go down in these baths scalps. They'd be down, you know, fifteen thousand feet, they'd be down there for three days straight, and they had to stay awake and alert the entire time, and they were using emphetamines and god knows what else to try to keep him. And so he was working on light therapy. He was working on technology would allow the body to stimulate itself naturally. And what he did is
such a breakthrough. This has got to be, i don't know, twenty thirty years ahead of what you'll ever see in a doctor's office. So what he did is he did research on peptides. One of the peptides is called ghk cus. It's a complex molecule based around a copper atom. That peptide up regulates over four thousand genes in the human body, and every one of those genes has to do with either rebuilding tissue, repairing tissue, or rejuvenating
tissue. What he did is he developed a patch like a little tiny round band aid. It doesn't have any product on it. It's called non transdermal. There's nothing on it that actually goes into the skin. It contains nano sized crystals. A nano is like one billionth of them of a meter, and the crystals are composed of different organic substances. That's where the patent comes
in. He's got over one hundred international patterns. But every day, every minute of every day, your body is giving off light and say, what do you say, I can't see You're not going in the dark, Well, yeah you are. If I were looking at you and infrared. Your body is emitting infrared radiation all the time. It's just below the human visible
wavelength, so we can't see it. So what this patch does is it reflects back into your skin a subset of that infrared radiation, which then stimulates nerve endings on your skin, which then stimulate the ghkcu peptide, which then stimulates your stem cells. So you get this phenomenal response of stem cell production and activity when you're What I've read from their literature is by the time you're thirty five years old, your body's production of stem cells is already down by
fifty percent. I was surprised. I thought it would be much older. By the time you're my age is all most non existent. So you put on this patch for twelve hours at a time, it goes on a couple of designated places on your body, and you take it off twelve hours later. I mean that's literally all you do. It takes you ten seconds, twice a day, and the results are stunning, absolutely stunning. Immediately. Your stem cells are those intelligent, undifferentiated cells that your body sends to wherever
repair needs to be done. So if you're someone who's got problems, you've got arthritis, or you've got rumor twitter arthritis, you've got any kind of inflammatory problem, you're probably going to see a result. I've seen people right before my eyes have a response in less than a few minutes. But if you're in reasonably good health, the effect will be taking place inside you. The rebuilding will be taking place inside you, and you won't necessarily see it.
So when I first heard about this, it sounded just a little over the top, even for me, and I'm usually pretty open minded. So my attitude was, these companies all tend to promote themselves. They always put their best foot forward, you know, naturally, I want to know what real people say. So I found a telegram chance that had testimonials that people have been putting on there for two years and just every day, regular people. They had nothing to sell, nothing can promote, just coming on looking
at the camera and telling their story. And after I'd seen ten or twenty of them, I was like, you got to be kidding me. This is unbelievable. It really is. It's just astonishing the health benefits that are being corrected by this. So I started using these a year ago and I didn't have any complaints. I wasn't looking for any miraculous recovery or anything. The first thing I noticed within one week, I've always cut my fingernails about every three days my life. In my life, I have to cut them
almost every day. They just get a little too uncomfortably long. I was a professional musician years ago, and I played the piano every day. Of course, we type on keyboards, and when your fingernails get a little too long. You notice it, and I would I would say, well, wow, but if you if you go, there's a website I can I can give the listeners that they're interested in going there. But at the bottom of the site, this is the proof positive. You see people and mostly
and we're all vain. Everybody's a little bit vain about their appearance, especially as you age. But maybe if this doesn't sound too sexist, maybe women are a little bit more vain. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but anyway, all the pictures tend to be of women before and after. So you have a gal who's in her fifties or sixties, and one year later she literally looks ten years younger, And you say, well, what happened? Why that happen? Because it wasn't some botox or injection or creams or ointments
or whatever. What happened was that her tissue at the subcutaneous level, under the surface of the skin is actually rebuilding. And so the crow's feet and the wrinkles and the age spots and all that stuff gradually start fading and ironing themselves out. And people look truly different a year later, And everybody does, some less more so than others, but everybody distinctly looks improved visually,
so you have to say, well, okay, it's obviously working. If you can see this effect working on the surface of your body, you know that it's working internally, even if you can't see what's happening inside your organs. So I did a lot of research on this. I never signed up with these companies until I've satisfied myself that it's for real. So I went on PubMed dot gov. I went on Google dot scholar. I think's Google scholar, where there's a whole bunch of papers that have been published on this
peptide that go back decades before this company ever existed. This this has always been known to be true, but no one ever found a unique way to naturally stimulate it. So here you have your own light from your own body, healing yourself. So there are no side effects, there's no possible way that it could harm anybody, could use it on a baby, pregnant people, anybody. It's just so anyway, that's that's my quick little brain dump
on on that technology. But it's just it's just amazing, and it's it's it's inexpensive. It's about one hundred dollars a month with shipping if you become a customer, So it's like three dollars a day, and that's pretty much within the price range of most most people. I would say, So that's it. Oh, well, that's not it. I got question, cannoy me. I didn't want to keep talking. I'll tell you when that's it. That's it. Okay, this a little self awareness. That's all quickly
ahead. So you put it on. You put it on. You said two different places. So there are specific places you put it on that are supposed to be most or to the places shift if you have different health issues. That there was a great, great question. No, actually, you can put it on anywhere on your bottom. It works optimally on a couple
of specific acupuncture accurate pressure points. One is if you reach if you bend over and bend your neck down, you feel across it's hope, your back of your neck, the very highest vertebra, that little bump you can feel at the base of your neck. That's that's that's an ideal place to put it on. And then another one is just two inches below your belly button.
So my my joke, and I don't mean to sound unkind. But there are a lot of peoples who can't find belly button, so you're but you can always find that bump on the back, on the back of your neck. And so then my friend, I've got a friend who's really I don't say he's quite ainly retentive, but he's an engineer, and they can be really annoying, you know. So he said, do I have to put it on exactly on that spot? I said, you mean you have to get out like a compass. I said, no, just anywhere close
will work. Then he said you have to put it on in exactly twelve hours. I said no, no, just anywhere, you know, ten, twelve, fourteen. The idea is give your body a period of stimulation and then a period of rest and stimulation. But to answer your question, it's if you have a specific problem, you can put the patch on right
next to a wound, like like post surgical recovery is nuts. You see before and after pictures of someone who just has surgery and they kind of look like Frankenstein with those big stitches down their neck, and sixteen days later you can't even see where the scar was. So no, but but but Gordon, if they were using this, they shouldn't have needed the surgery. Well, yeah, but they didn't know, so presumably, Kevin, presumably they
didn't know. No, I totally agree. I totally agree. People people, you know, people tend to come to these method these methodologies when they're really in trouble. That's how we humans are. You know, when they've they've been to the doctor, they've gotten the shots, they've gotten the five thousand dollars stem cell injections because they've been in such pain, maybe they've got a tennis elbow that was you know whatever, and they've they've been on the
steroids, and they finally they get some relief. But then thirty percent of the time, stem cell injections stimulate an autobody response, and you have a much worse situation. Plus it's someone else's stem cells that are getting injected into And then someone tells them, hey, why don't you go take a look at this patch, And then they roll their eyes like you've got to be
kidding me, how could this be real? And then they've watched twenty videos and read a couple of things and they say, okay, let me try it in the company. Has it money? I guarantees. All that kind of stuff is the commercial side of it. But then it works and it's like, oh my goodness, you can't. You know, you're not. I got to tell the whole world. So it's not cool. Okay, No, no, I don't talking too much, So definitely put the link
on the Dark Kevin Show. I always ask this question when somebody's talking about something with neutral energy is So is this in the MLM format. Yes, it's a direct sales company. Yeah. The only people to explain until explain that you can't. There's no way to get to the American marketplace these days without some form of word of mouth marketing. The drug companies will not allow this kind of competition to ever show up on a cable TV news channel.
And you're print advertising radios tip we paid radio commercials various prohibitive. So these companies just take the root of hey, we're going to let the people be our our advertising budget and if it's a good thing, they'll share it. So, yeah, answer your question, it is. It is a relationship marketing company. Okay, So I would like to put that out there.
I have through the years belong to one or two MLMs. As we just used to affectionately call them because I knew whatever it was I believed in and you couldn't get it anywhere else. So I don't we don't have a problem. I we don't have a problem here within MLM. I want people to know it before they click the link. Totally agree. Yeah, yep, and I think that. So this leads me to another question, which is, if I got off this phone, I'll click the length and I signed
up, what is my monthly minimum that I have to commit to? Because this is the sticking point for people with mL on sometimes and sit out. There was a whole bunch of companies that really screwed people over and I'm not accusing this one of doing it. And again I've been involved with ethical MLMs and they do exist. But it's like, oh, you have but you have to buy so much product and you have to you know, like they force you to sell it, and not everybody wants to sell. Some people
just want to get Can you explain a little of that? Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. When I first understood this industry, the way it was explained to me was rather than the standard distribution model where you've got a manufacturer who makes wheelbarrows, and they get shipped to a regional distribution center at a markup, and then that guy ships them to the local hardware store to markup, and then he marks them up and puts them out for
sale and then marks them down twenty five. Everybody somewhere along the line is getting paid, which they should. That's everything we own in our life was sold to us by somebody. So sales isn't a dirty word. It's just the function of the way the world works. So network marketing just allows the individual to be in that distribution channel and they're basically compensating you for sharing the word. And it has to be something you believe and it has to be
ethical. But the old model is, oh my god, people pull the shades down they see you coming up the front walk where you're going to try to sell them your dish, a charge in your laundry. So even if they're great products, but if you really, if your heart is really in this, and you're sharing information, it's not sales. It's like a dog could walk up to you with a CD in its mouth with everything you need to know about a product on it, and you didn't feel like the dog
sold you anything. So the idea is I share information and people are welcome to internalize it. If it clicks, they have to make a buying decision. You can't force anybody to buy anything. They have to want to bring it into their lives. And that's been the spirit behind which I've ever shared any of this kind of stuff. I don't walk around with a business card
building any of these businesses. And I didn't even know you existed until a month ago, so and I didn't know where you wanted to go with the show. I mean, I wouldn't even have mentioned the website. We just talked to you and just just shared information. But no, no, no, no, I'm happy, but I do want the answer to my question. Is there a minimum monthly by to stay involved? No, no, there isn't. You can see if you want to be a customer. So
life Wave sells a whole line of these patches. This is just one of them. Okay, if you want to buy the product, it comes in what they call a sleeve. It's a thirty patch supply for one month because they're disposed. We'll use one a day. You go to the website and you can be a retail customer and get one order. Would it would cost you five dollars a day, would be about one hundred and fifty with shipping.
It has a ninety day money back guarantee, and if you don't like it, you can return the unused product one hundred percent of your money back. They truly have no questions asked, so there is no financial risk.
If you decide that you want to become what's called a preferred customer, you can do that and then the drop price drops to three dollars a month, But you can quit it anytime, so you're not locked into You're never pressured to continue purchasing, and you're never pressured to share it with anybody else. They treat you like grown ups, is the way I like to put it. If you're a preferred customer, is there a minimum buy only? If
you're only if you want to be what they call a brand partner. All these companies require you to have a certain amount of volume in your organization before they can turn around and compensate you. Otherwise they go out of business. So if you're preferred, yeah, if you preferred customer, yeah, no, totally. If you're a preferred customer and you don't want to share this with anybody. You just want to use it for yourself. You're just buying
whatever you want. Whatever number of patches you want to buy is what you order, and if you don't like them, you can send them back. You can not order this month, order next month. Is totally totally up to you. But once you go the the marketing side of it and you want to start to build an organization, well, yes, they then they set minimums, which which any marketing company would do, even outside of the
network marketing space. Yeah, so does that answer question absolutely? And you know, transparency is very important to me here because again I have been involved with MLMs. I've been involved with ones i've regretted because to even get the product, you had to have a minimum buy and then you suddenly get a backlog of stuff and it's only if they auto ship, and a lot of them have moved away from that because that's really what destroyed the MLM's credibility with
companies that major basically fill your basement with supplies. No, you're resolutely correct. That was the model back in the fifties and sixties and seventies, and starting around the nineties, the industry really cleaned itself up. But today it's very, very, very transparent. They're all very ethical the way they operated. All the big ones are let me say that. Put it that way,
all the all the major ones are. And one of the reasons I want to have this conversation with you on air, and I'm putting you in a position where I had said to you before you come on, I don't want you to be doing sales pitches, but I'm asking you. And one of the reasons is, you know, I have good close friends that have made fabulous livings off ethical MLMs and have helped other people make ethical livings off alms. And again I have no problem with it. I had got people
involved with them before. But I'm always really clear, be really clear, just you know, decide, because you know, there's the old marketing type of thing that a lot of people either experienced or knew somebody that experience. It says, oh, yeah, if you do this, you'll only have to work twenty hours a week, you'll be your own boss. Within six months, you can quit your job. You know, they give them,
they give them the used car salesman approach. And that's why true. Having this conversation You and I have both been around alone time and we've seen decades of this stuff both be unethical and now, as you said, and that's my experience as well, it's more ethical than it's ever been because it had
to be because the industry was dying because of its unethicalness. That but I want the listeners because I will guarantee you I have listeners that if they click on the link, so MLM would not go any further just because they have a traumatic experience. Oh, I don't blame them in there, don't I
don't know. I don't blame them at all. The industry did a terrible job of representing itself, and you're right at the beginning you had distributors with basements the soap, powder and laundry concentrate and get stuck with the inventory of no Today it's it's a very enlightened you know, the Internet is what changed everything today. With every place you're going, there's a filly a link.
You know, click here to share this video with a friend. If you buy something from someone who's an Amazon affiliate, you know it's going to be the same exact price. It's not going to cost you anymore. But a little piece of that is going to go to the person who sent you the link. It's become normalized in our society. So the idea of referral marketing, I don't even like multi level. It just sounds scheme, like this
big scheme. It's they call it relationship marketing. Now, they call it social marketing, you know, it's it's network marketing is even a pass a term now, But it's really just if you have something in your life that you think has value to other people, all you have to do is introduce it to them, and they're totally welcome to say no, thank you, or tell me more. And then I don't personally, I don't ever follow
up with anybody because they don't want to be a salesperson. I don't even want that stigma, you know, I don't want it to have that aroma in the air because everybody assumes, oh my god, he's going to try to sell me something. So it almost makes it difficult sometimes to share something with someone that you knows. You almost feel like you have to backpedal so
vigorously just to put something in front of someone. I've got friends who had serious, serious health problems, who have had dramatic turnarounds by using this particular product. But almost every single time I had to be very careful how I brought it into the conversation because there's that instant, indeed jerk trigger, like, oh my goodness, he's going to try to sign me up with quote one of those things. But it turns out that these companies are very,
very, very forward looking. And i'll tell you something else, Kevin. I don't know if you're experienced lately, but when you're in one of these businesses, the people you're surrounded by these days, they're not They're not the piranha, the money seeking piranha that we saw a couple of decades ago. They tend to be more enlightened people. A lot of people are really there because they genuinely are enjoying how their life has changed as a result of being
in this environment. Both what it's done for them financially, but it's what it's done for the people that they've shared the product of the service with. So that's that's that's been my experience anyway. So one of the things is that again I wanted to have this part of the transparent conversation, so people who you know, and again I have clientele, I have people that you know, I look at this thing and I try it myself. I get a good feel from it away the things I'm going to be recommending it to
the appropriate clients because that's why they come to me. Sure of course. Or you know that my medical intuitive and my thirty plush years of experience an alternative help. You know, it's not one or the other. This means there were so many things that we didn't get to that I would love to have you come back at some point. Tell me you'll come and play on the Doctor Kevin Show again. Absolutely absolutely, I've got my years throw the ping pong ball over the net and more, Yes, sir, will your
pleasure. So, if I am not mistaken, you live within my area generally, I live in the Republic of New Hampshire. Yes I do, yes, So I know, and I know that we are going to start to hear the extro the exit music any moment now. So offline, let's let's be sure. Let's let's connect all right, let's see if we can connect in person. I would love to do that, right, it would
be great. We'll get it. We'll hop on zoom and say hello to each I'd be nice to see you in the in the real world, and we'll we'll share some a lot, a lot of things I would love to share with your listeners, including on the whole financial side of things, which which would be a lot of fun to talk about. So that said, Gordon, I want to thank you for coming. I had left a message
with you with your phone number that you you set me. I don't know if that's a textable line or not, but if not, feel free to call me back or text me and go on the Doctor Kevin Show on Facebook post the Stemstell thing. People are fully aware on what they're clicking if they choose to click it, and that's the kind of transparency. I need to feel good about you posting it, and so let's share it with the world. I will thank you, sir. I appreciate it was It was a
lot of fun. I really enjoyed talking with You've got a great sense of humor and I always appreciate that in a person. I laugh at everybody, including myself. Have a good one. You to take care of. Bye bye.