A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show. We'll be taking you outside the box, behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. And now Doctor Kevin, Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Times, where we're changing the world wait for it, one ome at a time. So I want to welcome you to
this week's show. As those of you are following me for a long time now, I on a semi consistent basis, only semi do a hot topic. A hot topic means something that gets me hot under the collar or makes me warm the cockles of my heart. Unfortunately, with a lot of things went on in the world today, I find that my collar tends to be warmer than my heart. So I got a pretty warm heart for a lot of things, but for some reason, they just don't get discussed as much,
um you know. And I was going to do a hot topic that was that was warming the was that was hot under the collar. But I'm going to change that to one that has warming the cockles of my heart, which is this young man that I read about who has now graduated and get several degrees um and he's like twelve years old. And I wasn't prepared to
do this story. I ran across it. But you know, his parents learned discovered at a young age that he just had this incredible ability to learn and bring it in and but instead of happening, what happens a lot of times is that very highly intelligent children because can can become not only outliers in some ways, but they can become problems in the classroom, especially at a
young age, because they're going to be bored. And some of those are correctly and some of those are incorrectly diagnosed as being ADD or ADHD, where oftentimes they're encouraged to be put on a path of medication which helps them fit in better with the grade level and the students they're with. I used to call that drugging them up and dumping them down, that somehow, highly curious, highly energetic, highly intelligent kids just didn't do well in the average classroom
and then we're going to act out. Now. I don't know any of this child's history. I look through the story some I know that his parents basically got on the train of allowing him to get to this young age and graduate high school, graduate college, get master's degrees, get all of this other stuff. Now as he emotionally mature enough to be out in the world working a full time job, or should he be at this age. That's a different set of questions. But one thing that was clear was these parents
didn't look at their whatever issues or uncomfortability. They're extremely bright child may have been creating, and I'm sure there were some. I'll bet my bottom dollar
on it. I'll keep the ones that are all on top of it, mind you if I lose the bet, But I bet that there were some terse conversations when this child was very small and very young, and clearly very distracting, because if he's got all these degrees at this age at five, he probably wasn't very happy learning to count numbers, were sat contentedly learning his ABC. I bet he was already way beyond that. And though it warns the cossles of my heart is whatever it took his parents supported him to feed
the bottomless curiosity of his intellect. That he was this huge funge of wanting to learn and know and do this and mean And he got a few different degrees. And so again I didn't prepare. I had a different story prepared, but tonight's guest convinced me to do a different story. He didn't know he convinced me to do a different story. And I'll be introducing him in a minute. But I just decided, why you know, why worried?
Be happy? Why focus on the negative? We can't Well, maybe we can change it, but sometimes let's focus on the positive and what's the message there? And maybe it's time to destroy our current education system and build something that is less like an assembly line the children get lost in and fall off
of. And maybe it's time we create something that bellas better celebrates all of these kids that seem to be coming up, that learn in different ways, experience education differently, and when given the opportunity, can really knock get out of the park instead of feeling like we need to chop them up so that they can be the square peg to fit in the square hole of a very
outdated ucation system. So on that note, I'm going to introduce my guests for the evening, and we're going to talk a little bit about his new book and what he does and all of that stuff. But My first question to him is he is from Canada, and I want to know how do they deal with really great kids in Canada. But I'll be asking that a fame to do something. So Tonight's guest is Cecil McIntosh. He is a
relaxation expert and Barbadian spiritual teacher. I love that author. He immigrated to Canada from Barbados age twenty, where he was raised by his grandma and the village. I also love that we definitely need a lot more village rating. After graduating from Ryason University, he began his career in sales, always hustling, worked day and night to outperform his peers, and subsequently lost everything with divorce and bankruptcy in the same week. See it's called getting your just deserves.
No hanksrupts, he said him on a quest to find clarity and see problems through new eyes, one day he heard a voice telling him there are words for people that hear voices in their head. Just so you know, I've been called them a few times to teach what he had learned. He followed this guidance and had since helped countless people with getting off the hustle hamster wheel and be in their flow state, at peace and free of worries. He has a new book out called Drawback the Veil and Cecil. I've known
Cecil. We are cross paths many times. I've known you, yep, and fifteen years. Maybe that's why, Seas, what do I do with bright kids in Canada that they trying to drug them up and dumb them down as much as they do here in the States. Well, I think it's I think it's a universal thing, and it's universal because of our conditioning. We're conditioned to behave a certain way and it doesn't matter where you are that that's the conditioning. So until we see things a little differently, it's going
to happen. They are gonna be acceptions to the rule where people will keep people differently. But generally speaking, it's it's this is the way to do it right. This is the way that they look at it. But because you're and the other team, when you have bright children too, it's a challenge because most people don't know how to deal with them. There's no system the deeper bright kids. So the challenge, the challenge, sorry, go ahead, no, no God. So the challenge is that that is not
something that's in place. If you might find a school or a T shirt can do it. But Jenner speaking, there's nothing in place to say, here's some bright kids, here's what we're gonna do with them. Here, here's the systems to take them through from or eight to point B. As you suggested. All we tend to do it if you go to medication, Jenner, because it's the easier way, the faster way, and it's you know, it seems it seems to fix the problem, but it doesn't.
No, it actually exacerbates the problem, makes it worse. It gives a temporary fix with a very long term cost. That's right, So tell me so thank you for that. I do know that there have been some impressive studies because as you may or may not remember, I have several books out on ad and do a lot of work in that area, add adhd Um. But and there was some impressive h studies they did in Canada that actually proved medication was not as successful and came with some emotional and I mean and
this was like a twelve year study. I mean, like Bank really did it right up there, but everybody down here ignored him because it didn't tell them the message. They wanted to tell them which way to medicate those children. E give those dollars the big pharma, give them into the system. And because bright, creative kids tend to be more rebellious, they questioned more things. Ah, that's right now, when we talk about creative intelligence and
rebellious, that's the perfect introduction for you. Okay, do you deny any of the charges? Low, because I'm glad you brought it this way, because this is what we can be talking about for the balance of the evening. This is where we're going. So, Harris, what's happened? We have not as people in general, we were never encouraged to ask questions.
So for example, you've got you when when you have your condition? For me a mom, the school, the media, the church, and for me specifically, if I were to ask the question, especially to the pastors or to my parents, they would I get spank and put in a corner because I wasn't supposed to ask the question. The problem is they didn't know the answer. So that's what happened to me. What I have discovered and what I work and what I teach now is that we need to ask questions.
However, you need to come to a place where those questions can be addressed without judgment or without criticism. And that's the challenge we have. There are very few places that you can go and you can ask questions in your ignorance and someone's going to answer you. That's what I do because well, I teach so ahead. No, Well, you know one thing I want to comment on that is that you know where where I myself was not.
But many people that were raised in traditional society with the tradition, the major traditional religious backgrounds and the whole you know, coming from the children should be
seen and not heard or that whole thing the power. The people in power start at a very young age to indoctrinate the concept the questions are that and because they don't want to be questioned, not just because they don't have the answers, but sometimes because the answers are because I want to have a better life off the back of you, because I want you to be a cog or a wheel in my assembly line and make me lots of money while I treat you like a piece of crap. I want you to be subservient to
me like that. Somehow, you know, and our institutions reinforce. You know, in India they call them cast systems, but you see that happen in this country and I'm sure in Canada, but correctly if I'm wrong, through you know, it's inherently built in with what side of the track are you born with? What is your authenticity? What is you know? What do you get a good quality education offered? You are a crappy one, are you? You know? Like, there's all sorts of ways in which
we do that. But it's not just we need to ask questions, but the people that are getting that are are being asked the questions need to engage with an open minding curiosity and that's a big missing factor. What are your thoughts? Well, but they can't because they're conditioned to behave that way. It's like hitting the brick wall. It's impossible, right, you cannot use this. You've been conditioned by your mom, your dad. That's that's what
you're supposed to do. Now you're telling me, okay, now I'm supposed to listen to you. Well, I don't know any better. So and to support them, they're operating the ignorance, But the point is it's still happening. They don't know any better. But people like you and I are trying to teach them better. Correct, But that's where I'm coming from. They don't know any better. Right. Let let me give you a quick
story about that. When it was at university, I was president. I was president in businesstudent society at Arson and one day to being a business and president of Arson. Success. You've done a good job. What are you going to do when you graduate? And I said, I'm going to get a job and selling kept doctor Kevin. Imagine two white men looked at me and said, in Unison, they're gonna hire you, say you less and fire you. And I'm saying what No. I worked four years part time
on tiptop tritos and the people there are men who high school. They told me I was good at selling, but that was that was just the thought that I couldn't do it, But they didn't know I had done my homework. They're sorry. It was just like everybody else because that was their conditioned way of thinking. So that's my personal experience of where this is what they're thinking, but they didn't know that. People are ready told me you're good,
although it was different. So this is where the issue comes in the lack of education and lack of understanding is the ignorance that exist. Oh and let's let's let's put the old spun life right on the truth of that. They try to train us that different is bad whatever that different, But what they said is that maybe it's more specific. Toronto is not ready for a black salesman. That's what they said to me. Now, Sethel, I'm
shocked. I've done you all these years, and I'm shocked. I've known you all these years and you never told me you were a black man. Why did you hide that from me? I didn't hide it. This that's what they said. I'm doing me. I had definitely do it. But let me let's take us a little bit more it or now I'm in sales.
Now, let's since you go there the adult piece of that. I'm in stales and I'm working and um and when the sales, when the sales managers switch around, they all would want me to be a part of They would all want me to be in the system. So this white guy, Kim comes up to me and says, sex, you don't drink, you don't smoke, you don't go, you don't you don't know go to cottage. You don't give a downboad anybody? How can when the white managers do
what they do, they all want you to be on your team. I say, because I'm black, He says, no, I what's going on? What happened is most people when when a camp didn't know that I had saw I had worked with black people, do it was white people before? Because in Barbados there's no difference between white and black. There's no there's no you know, we just eat breakfast together. So everybody think that I am different. Now I don't know what's going on, and it's like, excuse
me. But the thing though, that was important, Kevin, is that I respected and my grandmother taught me to respect everybody. That was the key for me. So long as you respect somebody, it doesn't matter who they are, ship size cutter. Just respect everybody. And that was my ticket. Now, how do you deal with it with that respect is not returned? Oh no, no, no no no no no no no no no. I respect myself. You cannot disrespect me. I will not give you
that privilege. You cannot you no, no, you cannot disrespect me Because I respect myself. I'm solid and that no matter what you do, as long I've journed this long ago, you can't stop me. You can't. No, no, no, no, that cannot happen. I will not give you the opportunity. You've brought up an interesting point which I'm gonna and again. You know Cecil mackintosh dot com. If you go to the doctor the Doctor Kevin page Facebook for the ductor Kevin Show page, you can see
the link to his website. We are going to be talking about his book drawing Back, draw Back the Veil draw not Drawing Drawback the Veil Um, which you can get on his website. Um but dot said, you made a very interesting point because here in the States, I don't know if it's his bat in Canada or not. We're going through a particularly vitriolic time of of a renewed racism in this country like I haven't seen in thirty years,
Like like everybody just racist is out and proud about it. But you brought up that in Barbados, blacks and whites are raised equally, so they don't see a difference. That's what I heard you say, there's a difference, but it's not if we know it's a difference. But we have, we have we eat together, we have breakfast together. I mean, we play games together. There's no you know. So that's that's where they come from.
Okay. Do you think that there is a difference in how people of color in Barbados would be or would would be or might be treated here than people who have gone through all of the stuff we put them through if they were raised in the US. And I don't know how it is in Canada. I mean, do you feel like that has an effect on things? Well, I look at it from a little different perspective. Good shared, the society is going to do what it said it's gonna do right that their
conditioned to behave that way. I don't extrect it to be every different. Where I look at it. I've always done is I have looked at myself and say, okay, now I want to get that thing over there? What do I need to get it? I don't care which society, I mean, what do I need to get that? And that's where I approach it. So I think that from my perspective is that we are looking at the society which is bigger than us, which we cannot win, but where
we can win. It's if we individually look at it from our perspective, we can stop tabbling the waters where we're coming from. So I addressed it from that perspective. How can that change in spite of what it is in front of me? Well, and I call that a form of being in power. That's are of it that I'm not going to give you the ability. You don't have the ability to make me feel less. You don't have
the ability to suppress me. I have the ability to allow it. But if I don't allow it, it cannot happen no matter how hard you try it. Thank you. So i'd like to you know, before we start talking about your book, which we'll talk more about the book. I know you're already kind of talking about stuff in the book right now, but we'll do a throwdown, bigger conversation in a little bit. But tell me in
retrospect. I always like to hear the retrospect being who you are now and looking back at the you you were that in the same week went through bankruptcy and went through divorce. How did all of that happen? Where do you look back? Can you look back and say those are the points where I lost touch with who I was or I lost touch with what I was doing. What do you see looking back at that one at that at that sessil, It was a wonderful experience. And let me explain to you what happened.
My grandmother was my business teacher and my spiritual teacher. She's one of the most influential people in Barbados now. She taught me everything that she's a businesswoman. She ran business as where I learned more money back from. So when I came to Canada and I started Bright Lights of the North work, I said, and I went to university, says my grandma. She doesn't
annoy anything. She didn't go to university. So I am may because of what I'm based on what I heard from the president, and being a business I made her to make money to prove a point. So I mean, in the fifteen years, I made lots of money. But what I discovered is that I was so attached to money. But my grandmother never taught me. Yeah, she says money is important, but it's not the only thing. So I actually forsake the values of the things that she taught me about
avatives and I lost all that. But then after I meant to what I meant to on my journey. That little voice was very rude to me and says, hey, you thought your grandmother didn't know anything. You're rude to your grandmother. Now go go open your home and teach you what you know. I know, I'm teaching what my grandma talk. So that's my sisters, is a beautiful experience. Okay, but you were making lots of money. How did you end up in bankruptcy because I wanted to make more money?
It was greedy, Okay, I could say, I can see the forest from the trees. You got seduced into the golden handcuffs and then okay, okay, I mean, I'm just trying to I mean, one of the most important early teachers in my life was my grandmother as well. I get both my grandmothers. I get the grandmother thing. I have the grandmother vibe going, and I know they taught me lots of really important things.
And I know that there were some of those things that I forgot and had to remember because we have to go out and we have to experience life as who we are. I mean, life is our greatest teacher at the end of the day, if we allow it, we can decide not to allow life to be our graded teacher, and then we have a much harder life.
Yep. So, but you entwined that was the divorce because of the bankruptcy or they totally different, separate things get together because in the context that because it was triggered by the Dina business, in the president of regenstaying you can't make it, because that was a trigger, all right, and I say, hello, I'm going to prove you wrong. And because I took on that attitude, I actolutely ignored my family. I was only interested in
proving the point I can make the money. You can't tell me I can't do it. I'm gonna make the money. That was the mistake on me, if you want to call it a mistake, because my grandmother never taught me about making money only so I got caught up in that. You know, one of the things I will often share with listeners, and I'm going to share with you now, as you know, I came to this point,
you know, a couple of decades ago now. But when I came to the point that I realized that I'm here to be enjoy and enjoy I can have all of my material needs taking care. Yes. You know when people say to me, what do you do for work? And I go, I don't do work. I do joy. I get up every day, I get paid to be me. It doesn't get any better than that. But that's flipping it around, you know. I know that when I
first started my own business, just thirty three years ago. Now that I started my business and people would come and I was started it by doing professional psychic work again, and they'd sit across my table and I would start to tell them what I was getting for them, and I say, I start with what Spirit wants you to know? And you know, and people would be like, well, I have questions. Well we'll get to your questions
if we don't run out of time. I work for Spirit and I'm going to tell you what Sara wants you to know, and what sort of wants you to know is more important than what you think you want to know. So if it's important that you you know, And a lot of times people would say you answered all my questions before I could ask them. We'll be right back with Cecil McIntosh and drawback the veil. Conscious Media for conscious minds.
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on Home Times, where we're changing the world. Wait for it one oh minute time. I also in my ramblings at the beginning of the show forgot to mention it is a live call in show. You can call in and be part of this conversation and Cecil and myself at two oh two five seven h seven O five seven. That's two oh two five seven h seven O five seven, and you can ask either one of us any and all questions
you want. The other thing we ask is that you be respectful. So again to five seven five seven, give us a call, ask us the question would be more than happy to answer, so you know, before we let on break. I think one of the points that I was actually trying to make is I think that your grandmother understood the concept of when you live in joy, the world will take the spirit, the joy spirit, whatever
you want to call it, will take care of you. But I can go ahead if I can give you an example of where I noticed that is my grandmother used to dig potatoes. Dig the potatoes, she go into the ground, dig it out as she sewed it. So one day I was at the home and twelve people came to the home and they dropped off by the sugar flower coconut teas at her host And I'm saying to myself, who the heck is my grandmother? So when she came home, she says to
me who dropped off that? I say, donkey, Kurt, bicycle, motorcycle. She everybody that dropped the doctor. What was fascinating is the twelve parishes in Barbados, and somebody came from each parish. I'm saying, how can she be so powerful? How can she be so influential that people from all over the country would come to this little home and pop things up? That is what you're talking about. That's where I'm sorry for her. She actually lived it. That's where I got it from. Yeah, you know,
in in her own right. So she never had a shingle, and she never had a you know, an education from a university or whatever. My grandmother was really kind of like the town healer. And then people would would come to her and they would respect her. Of course, in a lot of indigenous cultures, wise women, wise men, shaman, they're not expected to do anything but be who they are and provide what they provide,
and they're recognized in the value for the value of that. And you know, in the western world, we've really got an ass over tea kettle and inside out on what we value and what we don't value. So that it's so twisted that I couldn't explain it to a child. Why, you know, their teacher who is taking care of them barely makes enough to live and somebody that can shoot a basketball gets to be paid twenty million dollars. I
can't explain the logic behind that. There is no logic, there's no justification. So yep, drove back the veil. What led you to write this book? Can you tell us some stuff about this book? And this is your first book? Is don't I remember you have another book out? I have another book out, but that I really didn't push it too much because somebody says to me, the book you've written, doesn't it was missing something, So I just I just parked it. Oh, I parked it.
So throughout back in the field. For many years, I've been teaching people entrepreneurs more specifically, what like I caught my grandma what my grandmother taught me along with some other people, and most of my people that I worked with then did extremely well. Right. So, for example, Jenuma came to me. He was a millionaire, he had no relationship, high blood pressure, couldn't sleep. He got whatever he wanted because of working with me,
he got everything he wanted. Right, So that's what I was teaching. But although I was teaching this and I was getting amazing result, there was something that was missing to me and I didn't know what it was, but was that little something they want? I got a headache, evented, my wife and I went to the hospital and they checked me out. The doctness is nothing wrong with you, and there's a bit of research on the internet.
And then I discovered the piece that was missing. It was I saw this video by Moji and it was all about what they calls self realization. And as soon as I saw everything around me spun, my whole life change and I realized that's the piece that that's the piece that's missing. Now, why is that important? That's important because most entrepreneurs. They have a gift. That's why they do what they do. But what they don't have is
they don't know who they are. There's a condition self that that the function ads. But then you find out who you are, when you emerge your gift with who you are, then it's what you talk about, the living and joy. So that's what the book is all about. That's that's how the drawback the veal kim because draw out the villa means it was hidden. I didn't know it was there, and I think about it. It was right. I have it. I don't have to go look for it's me.
It's like the story this lady she was came from the country and she used to she used to going upon and she would wash her here. She came to the city and there was no in her opinion, she lives in a apartment, but she couldn't wash her here. So she's for the whole week she's complaining she can't wash her here. Somebody in the village says, go to that wise man down there and tell him your problem. So she goes to the wise man telling the problem. The wise man says to her,
do you live in an apartment? Yeah. Do you have a bathroom here? Do you have a toilet? Yes? Do you have Is there a curtain in the bathroom? She said yes. She says, do me a favor, go home, pull back the curtain, come see me tomorrow. When she put back the curtain. But she saw the shower and she washed her here. That's that's where the drawbaut the vela is all about. Everything we want is right there, but we can't see it as a deal.
So that's that's that's that's so funny because it makes me think of two
things. One is, you know, one of the books that I have out is called Combing the Mirror. So it's called Combing the Mirror and Other Steps in your Spiritual Path, And there's a chapter called Combing the Mirror, And it's when we when people are reflecting back, mirroring back to us something that we are unhappy with or unsettled with within ourselves, that no matter how much we try to fix them or comb the mirror, it's they're not the problem we you know, but it's and you know, and I got this
from an actual client session where I had somebody who didn't was partially balved actually, and I dragged him into the bathroom and I gave him a comb, and I messed up what little Harry had and I said, start combing that mirror until that hair is thick. And he got it. It's like, I'm never going to be able to fix my hair. Comb in the mirror, and comb in that mirror, and I said, and you're never going to be able to fix your sister. Your sister is reflecting back to you
your version of the damage both of you got from your childhood. So when you talk about her discovering the shower, it makes me think of my combing the mirror. Slightly different message, but a very harmony, two very harmonious
messages with each other, you know. So, and then the other thing is, I don't know because I know that we originally met at an organization that I was on faculty for, So I don't know if you ever heard me when I was on the stage, but you know, I would tell people from the stage if they asked me, what is the first thing that you want to do with an entrepreneur? If if we've brought you in,
doctor Kevin, what is the first thing you would do? People would ask me, And I said, the first thing I would do is we would make sure to discover if you don't know what is the vision and mission statement of your soul. Yeah, and once we have identified the vision and mission statement of your soul, we make sure your business is in alignment with it, because if you have a business that's in alignment with the vision and mission
statement of your soul, you cannot fail. That's right, you're doing what you came here to do. So now what is your So you have the book out and people can go to your website and get the book. Correct book free download. Yeah, it's a free download. Did you hear that? You can go to Cecil McIntosh dot com. That a see if I put out see if I sell it? Right? You can correct me C E C I E L M C I L or I knew I was going.
Or if you want the book faster, they can go up to s C E C I L ebook dot com dot We're getting right to the books cecisbook dot com. We're getting straight to the book. Okay, And it's on the website. Yeah, it's on the website. If you want. When we hang up tonight, you can go to the Doctor Kevin Show where I posted about the show and put that link in the comment bar so people when they listen, Okay, this show will air six more times in the
next week airs I do. I shoot the show once a week, but then it shoots at all different time zones because I have listeners all over the world. So you can go and put put that in and the comment part for people to get there. What's next for you? You've got the book out, you're giving it away. Tell me what's what's that? That's the unfolding world for season. Sorry, I'm so glad you asked. Here's what's
beautiful? Then you discover who you are, not who you think you are, not who you are conditioned to be, but so so who are you? You are that person? Writ is joy Where there is no writ is harmony, whdre is no fighting, there's no screaming, wh there's no shouting. It just is and whatever you want, you don't really do anything. Everything works through you, So there's no working hard to make a living here, But everybody works true you. If you understand that you have to get
out of your own way, and you're aware of that. The thing is unawareness that if you get out of your way, everything that you want will turn up naturally, and if you are aware and you're listening, your whole day will be planned out for. You'll be told what to do each moment of the day if you are aware of it. But the challenge is, we have all these thoughts I mean true, and we don't we can't, we don't know what to do with the thoughts, or we don't do it.
We just got get caught up in them. But in what I teach now, I teach you how to deal with all those thoughts and all the factions and everything. I teach you how to deal with that. So life continues the way it is. However it wouldn't affect it. That's what I'm teaching and what I really what where I'm going with this is I want to take entrepreneurs who have that gift and who are interested in what I'm teaching, and we're going to merge them together. And what we're gonna time up with
is what we call the freedom entrepreneur effect. What that means is that as with this merging, you have that freedom. So say you whatever company or whoever you work with, where you have that essence, whoever work with you would kind of get a bit of that perfume. And if you have a company that has a line along these lines where everybody understands that or not, everybody to the top of the top influences understand that life is beautiful because everybody's
in alignment. That's my whole purpose. And then we're gonna have you can have to get together in our groups and we have communities and this freedom entrepreneur scent is what's gonna it's it's gonna be like you're gonna get a whiff of it. You're gonna get intoxicated, but you don't know what's happening, but
things begin to happen differently. That's where I'm going. So what I hear you say is your goal is to work with entrepreneurs to become into an into an alignment where like we were talking about before, that they're more living their life and joy that they're doing what they're here to do, that their business is successful as a byproduct instead of them being the byproduct of a successful business.
That's right, and that you want to form that into a supportive community that can then support and grow and create synergy within itself for the members. Did I get that all straight? Did I miss anything? You're right under as usually you're right in the money. So now so you're available right now to work with entrepreneurs. Yes, yes, yes, okay, So if they go to your website and they want do they can they schedule an introductory appointment? Can they? I mean, like, how does it if?
If I if I am listening to this today and I'm an entrepreneur who knows I'm meant to be an entrepreneur, but my business is ruining my family and is uh, you know, coming with very high cost that I no longer want to play. What's their next step? The first thing to do is to get the e book book asessu ebook dot com. When you get the e book, it gives you a foundation to understand I thought, why you're doing, what you're doing, and what you can do about it. Then
I have a weekly class. I have a weekly class where I teach weekly some of the things that come up with this. I teach you basically how to how to how to be if you want to do better? Artici what consciousness is? Artisi what awarenesses? So the more where you are, the easy to understand what's going on. Then from there, um you might want to know more about right and there's a contact page on my website. They can go and you can you can contact me. You too to contact me.
But we start with the book and then we start with the plastids, so it gives you a little you know, you can check me out so you can find out what's going on if it's for you. I years ago, we actually yeah, I remember, I remember being you and like I didn't know who you when I first went to the US list and being like we're talking, like you were talking about me, Like who do I do you should do that? Really? Like who the heck is this guy?
Yeah? I'm just somebody out there being me. And it always care those people because they keep on thinking that there's something I'm supposed to be other and I'm like, yeah, it doesn't quite roll that way, so I assume. I don't want to assume, so I want to ask. So these classes you hold are they on zoom in person? Both they are. When you sign up for a class day in Zoom, you get a link and you come to the classes. Classes on Raines days at seven and Thursdays at
one because I want to get different times zooms involved. So the two hours the two hours you can ask me and then you want to ask me. And that's there's ten dollars for ten dollars per week, is what it is? Well, that's a bargain. Um. Well, then there's always the you know, one of the power of classes, because I've taught lots of classes through the years, is not only what you go in knowing what you want to know, but then participating in a situation where somebody asked the question
you might not have thought of asking yes, and sometimes you know. And of course I'm big into the idea that a really good teacher is one that goes into every class saying what am I going to learn from this class? That's right? Beautiful, This says if we, you know, the students go in and they think they know what they want to learn, but we go in and we're kind of like, okay, spirit, what am I here to learn today from this group of students? How is this people's students
going to help me grow and evolve and be and become more? That's right. So people can go into classes and then at some point if they're like, hey, the class thing works, but I need some one on one cessil loving, then they can create that as well. But I love you're talking about. I met a genuine once and I was working with him and he says to me, cecil, I have to admit to you, you
have love loves me more than my mom and dad. I thought it was it was it touching because you have loved me more than my mom and dad. You never judge me, you never do anything. You just treated me as a person, you know, and as that When I hear that, and I've heard that, I've heard people say that to me as well. And you know it used to it used to always like warm the cockles of my heart that I could be there for somebody in such a powerful way who
needed it. But then there was always a little part of me and there still is. That. That's a little sad that that when we have every major world religion preach love is the way in one form or another, when we have songs about it and books about it, and we have all of this stuff, and yet unconditional loving and acceptance is so rare, And that's so sad. You know that. And hopefully through the work you're doing, you will be corrupting people to bring more of that into the world. Oh
I love that word. I love that word, which watching parts corrupt. I think that's beautiful. I think that's beautiful. My staff used to talk about, you know, when I would speak on a stage and I would get all wound up and I would inspire and I would do all this stuff, and then they'd say, we always have to be prepared for those people that caught Doctor Kevin Fever called it ductor Kevin f And Yeah, but I think that it is really powerful and really beautiful because there are not enough of
us out there holding non judgmental, unconditional loving spaces. That's right. And you know you learned it from your grandmother. Yeah, she's a foundation of everything I teach. I learned it from my grandmothers as well. Um And and I'm going to say in my case also that Papa taught me. My father, Papa's taught me unconditional love. Um. So I was lucky because I had three people that in each and every one of them in their own
way. And I think that unfortunately, there is a tendency in society, and it's one of the ones that you and I in touching people and the work that we do that we really need to try to change this false reality of the way that people who often are unconditional loving and non judgmental are seen as weak or less or not as somehow that that somehow, it's almost you know, the old like, well, you know, that's what you call
a sucker type of thing. And I think that it's very woven in because again, our institutions fear unconditional love, and they fear people coming from a place of non judgment but discernment, because they know all their asses would get fired if people really discerned what they're doing. But yeah, what did we look at It is that we who we who are discerning, need to be able to be standing in our power. So it doesn't matter what people think
of us, so that they will think of you in different ways. But as soon as you're standing that power, it doesn't matter what you think. The secret is to touch more people and keep on touching people and get a really said. That's why I talk about the movement, the freedom entrepreneur movement. We get that effect going, that's what we're going to change turn things
around. So I don't know if you were I don't know if you remember this, but of course you know we'd be at CEO Space, and they'd be all these business owners entrepreneurs want to be entrepreneurs, and a lot of them be in business suits and ties and stuff like that, and yep, and you know, and kind of have that sort of straight lace thing.
And by the last few years I was teaching, one of the things I was known for was my doctor Kevin hugs, and people would come and say, I was told when I came to CEO Space, I needed to get a doctor Kevin hug, to the point that the last few times I taught, I would stand there in a line would form so everybody could get their hug. That's right, and we need more of that in the world. And I'm really happy that I know that you're out there actively trying to create
that. Thank you. We are going to be running out of time any minute now. Any last thoughts or things you want to say, any other things. What is the closing message you would like to leave to the Doctor Kevin audience today? I would like audious to know that the moment they have the clarity and realize that they have an issue, and they take ownership of that issue, and they're looking for another, and they're looking for another,
they're looking at life. If they can embrace this awareness that there are not who they think they are, but we are all connected. If they understand that whole concept, then there's nothing else in life to be concerned about. So I go back too, even though it's not a perfectly aligned cultural connection. I go back to where I started this interview, which is, don't worry, be happy. Yep, yeah, that's all. Thank you for joining us in the doctor giving bye, right,