Physical Therapist Insights in Supporting Top Athletes to Success

What I just started doing. Like, okay, I'll never say I'm nervous. I say I'm excited. I don't have to compete. I get to compete. Like, just those little things make such a difference that people don't even realize. And obviously, like, it's like buying into it too for, like, anything. Like, you have to believe in it. Right. Welcome to the Doctor. JJ Thomas podcast.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the doctor JJ Thomas podcast. Thanks for joining us today. I have one of my favorite people and athletes here, Amanda Levy. Thanks for joining us, Amanda.

Oh, thank you for having me. I'm excited.

So I wanna give, like, a very brief intro I mean, once I start talking to Amanda, you'll see how just the depth of her awesomeness comes out. But just a very brief introduction of Amanda, and and who she is as an athlete. For those of you that may not be familiar with her, Amanda is one of the best jujitsu competitors, really, in the world, especially in this in this in this lifetime, in this era. She's, competed in ADCC World. I think it was 2019.

Oh, thank you so much. I was

so glad. So, so I thought if we could so as you know, this podcast is is mostly directed towards clinicians, but we do have a lot of other nonclinicians who watch it. And so I just think it's your whole story is, I think, really awesome and interesting. For the for the physical therapy side of things, I wanna I wanna talk to those guys a little bit about kinda your journey of how you got into Brazilian jiu jitsu. And if you could take me back even to, like, when you first started in in in jiu jitsu and Yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah. So, basically, I was just, like, a super active kid when I was younger. I was, like, such a weirdo. I would do, like, push ups and, like, sit ups, like, during commercial breaks when we're watching TV, for no reason.

old were you?

I was 11.

Okay.

So he threw me in my 1st tournament and, like, I was only 4 months in. And most people don't compete until they're, like, a year in at least. So I had absolutely no idea what I was doing, and he, like, put me in my 1st tournament. I went out there. I lost in 15 seconds.

Yeah.

And I'm like, oh my god. This is, like, awesome. So I was just, like, addicted to that feeling ever since.

That's awesome.

Yeah. And it's just, like, so crazy. Right? Because it's just, like, this one second of you getting your hand raised, and it's just, like, such a feeling. Right?

I bet. And as you tell that story, though, like, I feel like there this the the win is sweeter after the loss. Yep. Right? Like, I feel like it's almost so perfect that you had that loss first and because you persisted. And that's, like, that's actually exactly what I think one of the things that I think probably makes you one of the most elite athletes I've ever worked with is is that you don't you know, struggles are just a stepping stone for athletes like you, in my opinion. So I love that.

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. A 100%. I actually never even looked at that way. So I actually like what you said that. But, Thanks. Like, basically, just again, like, it was just like a one second. Like, yes. This is exactly what I wanna keep doing.

Yeah.

So then I just kept competing after that, and, I would there wasn't really many girls at that time, but there the 2 girls that were there, they were older than me, and they would just kill me. Like, every match I had against them, I was just, like, destroyed. And then there was, like as we got older, there was just one day where, like, the tide changed. Yeah. And then that was, like, another feeling of, like, just, like, such accomplishment.

Beat up on it.

Beat me up every match, and now I'm a full circle moment. But, yeah, and then I went against a bunch of boys too, which also made me so much more tough. Yeah. Because, like, you know, I know it's kinda sucks being a boy, like, going against a girl because, like, oh, if you win, you beat a girl, but if you lose, you lose to a girl.

Yeah.

So I give all those those boys a lot of credit for for dealing with going with me. But, you know, some of them would go, like, rough too and, like,

you know You're in the you're in the ring. Like yes. Exactly.

So it definitely made me more tough and aggressive and in the end.

Yeah.

So again, then going towards, like, MMA, I eventually wanted to do MMA. Like, that was, like, always the the goal for me eventually. Like, I was 13. I watched Cyborg, versus Gina Carano, and I, like, remember it was, like, the first big women's MMA fight. My dad was, like, super excited for it.

We were,

like, on the couch watching it. And, after watching it, I'm like, okay. Now I wanna do this.

Here we go. Right? Yeah. Like, it's level up. Level up. Level up. Yep. What age was that? 13. Okay.

So then I always did striking on and off, and then always competed in jiu jitsu. So, yeah, so that's basically how I just Yeah.

Started. And your MMA, like, your MMA experience, I know we were just talking before we started airing, like, how first of all, her MMA record was was great also. Well, on On defeat.

On defeat. Undefeated. But I know. But it was only, like, 2 fights It sucks.

But But but we were just talking about how your MMA background really helps, even in jujitsu. Right? Like, just even if it's just the fear factor.

Yep. I know. And it's, like, funny because I can't fight, MMA anymore because of, like, they found, like, an aneurysm on an artery in my brain, so it basically stopped me from fighting MMA, but I refuse to change my Instagram name from, like, MMA because I feel like it's such an advantage being an MMA person

in jiu

jitsu because you're so much more scrappy. Like, I just always think, like, okay. Like, MMA people like, not that jiu jitsu people aren't tough, but, like, MMA people, it's just it's just a different toughness. Totally. So I'm like, I refuse to change my name until, like, I'm done fighting altogether because I'm like, I wanna be in that MMA mindset. Like, I'm tough.

I love it.

Yes. I'm thriving. You should. Yes.

This is what I'm saying. Yeah. You guys see what I'm talking about? Like, the the athletes like Amanda are this is exactly right. Like, every every ounce of your everything has a purpose. That's that's what I see from the sidelines of watching you. It's like like, your training has a purpose. Your recovery has a purpose. Your your your name on Instagram has a purpose. Like, all and all of it is built around your ability to succeed.

So Thank you. Thank you

for that. So what about so we've talked so with that note, like, knowing that everything you do is purposeful, what about tell me a little bit about maybe some like, that must have been a struggle, the the news to not being able to continue to compete. Yeah.

So, like, with that, it was such an eye opener because I felt like I lost my identity, which sounds like so crazy. Right? Like Yeah.

I

just felt like a piece of me is just going I still don't feel like the same. Right?

Yeah.

And, like a year has just passed since I found out, and I'm like, damn. It still hurts the same just like and everyone's like, oh, you'll get better. Blah blah. You can get back to jiu jitsu. And I'm like, you don't understand how happy I was when I could tell a jiu jitsu promotion, like, oh, I can't compete with you guys because I have an MMA fight coming out.

Like, I

was waiting for that moment so long, and I finally had it. And then it was just, like, gone just like that. So, it definitely, like, hit hard right when I

Found out.

Found out because it was almost like a death in the family. Like, you know, my mom's crying. Crying. My dad's crying. My siblings are crying. Yeah. Like, because everyone sees the dedication, like and, again, like, Instagram, you could post all you want, but, like, at the end of the day, like no. I don't even actually really put I'm so bad with with social media. I'm so bad. And I'm like, I need 2024, I was supposed to get better at social media was my new year's resolution.

to change. Like, you were on this you were on this path, and you were and you were conquering.

Yes.

Like, you were like, you could see you could see the you could see the fruit everything come to fruition. And then all of a sudden, I know. I like your analogy of it being like a death in the family because I feel like that's what I see. That's what I can imagine for you and that's what I still see is, like, it's not I think with any any death in our lives, it's not sometimes it never gets easier. Like, it just hurts a little less later on.

A 100%. And then, it was, like, cool. It's cool that I'll be able to work on different things now. So, like, I started swimming. I started cycling. So I'm like, I always wanted to do those things, but I never never had time to do those things because I was so focused on MMA, and it takes up so much of your time.

Yeah.

So it's cool that I'm able to, like, expand my horizons.

Yeah.

So I'm I am enjoying that. I will

say that. That's awesome. What about so back to the support thing, because I do think I think that's it's awesome that you brought that up because I think that is one of the things that, that sets a lot of athletes a lot of really high level athletes apart is that they do have great support. And so you mentioned your boyfriend. What other, like, mentors or support, you know, people have been kind of pivotal in your growth?

So definitely my parents because they were total opposites. Right? So my mom was like the, oh, my poor baby. Like, if I lost, like, oh, it's okay. And then my dad was just, like, you know, a hard ass. Like, you know, I could lose to, like, the most muscular kid as a teenager, and my dad would be, like, arms folded, behind the refs table, just shaking his head in disappointment. And I'm like, I don't know what to say.

Oh, that's so funny.

Yeah. Like and and I always love telling this story, so, like, I'll give you an example of how crazy my dad was. I played softball too growing up, and honestly, I probably would have pursued softball if I never found jiu jitsu because I loved it so much.

Okay.

And I was really good at it. And we lost a championship game. This is in grade school too, so I'm, like, in 8th grade. So we lost the championship, and it was something like that. Like, I had a good game, but, you know, obviously, it's a softball is, like, a team thing. And that's another reason why I like jujitsu because or, like, MMA, you're relying on yourself. Yeah. It's a individual sport. It teaches you full accountability. You can't blame anybody else

A 100%. Yourself.

Yeah.

And And you also can control yourself. Like, you control what you did leading up to that. Right?

Exactly. So that's why I always tell people, I'm like, put your kid in. Get you wrestling because it's full accountability. Like, you're out there. You either put in the work or you didn't, and then it's also, like, maybe it was your day, maybe it wasn't your day.

Right.

It teaches you just full accountability, a 100%. So, anyway, so we ended up losing. They give us the 2nd place trophies, then everyone's like, oh, let's go get pizza after. Right? My dad, we're walking, and he goes, points to the trash. He goes, put your throw that, you know, 2nd place away. So what did I do? I went over and I was, like, all for it too. Like, I there was no I didn't know what you said.

To me. Yeah.

Yes. Throw it in the trash, and everyone went to go get pizza, and we went home.

Oh my god. That is hilarious. Yeah.

So then I'd like so I had a balance between the both of them. Right? So definitely them, my boyfriend, and then just I was lucky growing up, I was the only girl usually and only kid in like these adult men classes. Right? So I've been to, like, 5 different schools probably over, you know, a course of 16 years of, you know, grappling.

That's cool. That's fun to see. What about the, like, the like, I remember when you before the before we started recording, we were talking about your, your leg fracture. And what about that? Tell me about that process of, like, dealing and recovering through that.

So that was, like, my first, like, really big injury.

Yeah.

So that was also, like, just shocking because it took me out of, MMA.

I was trying to remember when that was. That was

20 2022. Okay. So, the PFL was was a promotion that I fought for. So they're only seasonal. Like, the UFC's all year round. Right?

Yeah.

So the PFL, they do like a season and in this season, you fight like maybe 4 times and you have the chance to win a $1,000,000. And that was gonna be the first season I was in there. Okay. And I broke my leg literally, like, a month before.

Ugh.

So I was just, like, couldn't believe, like, oh my god. This is insane. Right? Like and it was just, like, a fluke thing too. Like, nothing Right. That I was put in a position that I was in a thousand times. It's not like this girl was, like, wrenching on my leg or anything. She just, like, put some pressure in, like, with her her abdomen, and it just, like, snapped. And it felt, like, so easily it snapped. Yeah.

like, what? I know. Isn't life funny, though, the way I do remember. I remember being back in that room talking with you about this, and I remember thinking, like like, life is funny, though, how it almost, I feel like it almost deal most of the time, it gives you information in the in in the steps that you can take it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you were out there. You were with your boyfriend.

Yeah.

So it was like

a second shot on this, but, oh, yeah. Definitely, like, way worse. And then that recovery was hard because that was, like, depending on everybody. Right? Like, I'm so used to being, like, a go getter.

Right? Yeah.

I don't like to sit still. I'm up early. I'm already working out.

Yep.

I'm going to my next workout. Like

Sit ups and push ups on commercials.

Exactly. So, so that was, like, the first time, like, because you're non weight bearing.

Yeah.

I couldn't even go to my drawer to get clothes out without someone helping me.

Yeah.

And, I remember going to my strength and conditioning coach after the surgery, like, a week after, because I was like, I have to get moving. Because, like, I started getting, like, anxiety and depression, which I never had before.

Yeah.

Which was, like, a full shock to me. Because, like, I used to, like, like, people would always be like, oh, I'm anxious, and I would, like, I could never relate.

100%.

And, I'm like, man, I'll never talk crap about anxiety ever again after that.

It's a that's a I think exercise, man. I'm so glad you said that because I think I'm the same way. Like, we both run hot. You know, Joey and Drew, Fuel Hunt guys, they're always like, you JJ vibrates high. You know what I mean? I feel like you vibrate high. And I think but I'm also so addicted to exercise, and I think that exercise just really maintains my my levels. And yeah.

A 100%. Like, I realized that after my leg break. I was like, oh my gosh. I rely on exercise for so much mentally. Yeah. And I can't believe people just go about their life not exercising. Exactly. That's what

that's why I was glad you brought it up because I feel like if like, for people that are not already in the habit of exercising, it is such an it's such a great hack to to of exercising, it is such an it's such a great hack to to controlling your mood stability. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So I divert I diverged a little bit from my original points, but I'm glad you brought that up because I think it's important.

Yeah. And I remember, like, literally going to strength and conditioning the week after, and, you know, I'm, like, depressed, I'm sad, I'm anxious. And I walked in, and he did not acknowledge my leg leg

at all. I love it. I remember you saying

that. And it was like He's like, let's go. Yes. And he likes he was like, sit down. I'll be over there in a second. And it was, like, the thing I needed from from someone. Like, just no one to, like, feel sorry for me. Yeah.

Because, like,

when I and then that was, like, the other thing too. Like, I hated that everyone was feeling sorry for me Yep. Because then it made me feel, like, pathetic.

Right. But

it was It made you feel weak. Yes. Yeah. And, so it was just, like, the thing I needed. And then after I was starting to work out and feeling good, then he, like, you know, was like, so how are you feeling? Well Yeah. And, like, we went about Brilliant.

I know. And I'm like How long have you been working with him?

Since 2016. So I actually met him. The UFC has that show, the ultimate fighter. Yeah. And Eddie Alvarez, he's a Philadelphia fighter. Yeah. He, was had had a season that that he was, like, with the coach for that season, and it was a girl season. And I trained, at the same, gym that he was at and they were like, oh, Mandy, you should come out with us, like, for a week, you know, because it's the girl season. You can, like, teach jiu jitsu. I was like, oh, yeah.

Got it.

So I met him out there, and it was, like, funny because, like, it was, like, an apartment style, like, with the the way they had it set up. So it was, like, 2 bedrooms. Me me and him were, like, together.

So funny.

And his wife was, like I remember him telling me that he was with and I was, like, not even 21 at the time. And he's and she's, like, I remember him saying that you're he was with you, and she's, like, I felt so bad because he's so boring, because he and it's not that he's, like, boring. His name

again? Rich Poehler. Okay.

Okay. So it's not that he's boring. He's just very regimented. Yeah. And you could tell he's just Just disciplined and Yeah. So disciplined.

So

cool. So disciplined. And he's easily one of the best like, I've worked with a couple strength conditioning coach, and the knowledge he has, I love that he, like, stays up to date with knowledges. He'll still go to, like, you know, like, little seminars for things.

Yeah. And He has that same it's funny that you say this because this is what what makes athletes like you amazing is the continual, like, thirst for learning more and being more and doing more, and that's what I wanna instill out of clinicians.

Yes.

And that's what your strength and conditioning

admire you, and that's why I love coming here because I know I can trust you guys because you guys are constantly looking for, like, the the more inform

more information. Same. I mean, we're literally like, our passion is the same. Our passion is, like, growth and excellence and right? And Yep. It sounds like Rich is the same way. That's so cool.

And I'm, like, lucky because jujitsu has been such an avenue of finding these people who are so good at their craft or what they do. Yeah. And then it just makes me also just, like, gravitate towards them. Right? So, like, I will always, like, recommend people towards you because I know what you guys are doing here, and

I That's sweet.

Guess. I, like, I love what you guys are doing here. Thanks.

And

then, like, same thing with Rich. Like, I love what he does. I love how disciplined he is. I love his programs. I will always send people to Rich because I just the knowledge is just insane.

And he's living it.

Yes.

Yeah. It's so cool.

And it's not just, like, strength and conditioning stuff. I it's, like, he'll do that functional movement stuff. Yes. And I love that too. And I'm like so I don't feel like I'm ever just, like, lifting heavy and, like, it has no purpose. Yes. You know?

Yes. You, I so I was actually gonna ask you about, like, your things that you do for because other than other than the bad news about the aneurysm and the leg fracture, you've been, knock on wood, pretty healthy.

Yes.

Like, haven't had a lot of injuries, and I was thinking about things I wanted to talk to you about on today's show. And I was thinking, well, recovery for sure. Like, how, you know, how do you what what advice do you give yourself or what advice do you give others on recovery?

Yeah. So, I mean, if I'm feeling like crap, I won't do anything. Like, I'm, like, very, like

Listen to your body. Yeah.

I have no issue with taking a day off. Like, people are like, oh, like, if I feel like crap, I'm not going. Smart. Yeah. And, you know, if I get feel like if something's tweaked, again, I'm literally proactively seeking

Yeah.

Something out. So those two things are, like, key for me. I do the cold plunge and sauna, but that has been a more recent thing.

Yeah.

I think for the most part, it was just, like, knowing when to listen to your body and good sleep. Like, I'm big on getting sleep.

It's awesome.

And, like, I have no problem leaving parties early.

Like Yeah.

I'm more of a morning person anyway, so I don't really like staying up late, and sleep has always been such a key for me. I never had issues with sleep. Thank god. Yeah. So, you know, once I hit the pillow, I'm out. Like, so I think good sleep and, like, knowing when to

take off, like, nothing it's nothing crazy. No. But it's consistency. Yeah. It's like everything else that like, every everything else in life that turns into something excellent is is like the the the good the basics done well. Right? Like, sleep is a basic thing. Eating is a basic thing. That's awesome. I love hearing that.

Which like, even my jiu jitsu game is, like I always say it's, like, so basic. And everyone's like, no. Stop. I'm like, no. But it is. And then, Rob Shire from Precision, he'll always be like, it's basic, but, like, you're, like, still complex at the same time. But I'm like, yeah. I'm like, my game's so basic.

It's awesome.

I love the basics of everything. I'm just a simple

It's smart. Everything's simple.

Yes. Exactly.

I even, like yeah. I was I was telling Tim Anna that I watched the Gabby, the Gabby Arcia fight again this morning just in preparation. Just wanted to I'd watched it originally before and, sort of that epic fight. And I was thinking, like, you even in that, like, you did the you you did the you stuck to the basics, and you did them really well. And it paid off. And, I hope we get to see more of that. Yes. I do.

So yeah. So, again, like, just basics, like, won that fight.

Right? Yeah.

Like and, my dad like roaches all the time because obviously he's my dad too. So I'm like, Yeah. What you fuck the other day again? Blah blah. He's like, no.

I just

can't believe, like, how, like, you just use, like, simple jiu jitsu. He's like, it's literally the perfect demonstration of grappling.

Yeah.

And I'm like, yeah. I'm like, it really it really is.

And also, we talked a little bit about this before, but I wanna I wanna say it for the benefit of the audience is, like, the other piece besides the technical jujitsu, the the basic technical jujitsu in in that match, the I think the the mindset in there is so incredible that you that you instilled. Like, I'm watching I was watching this fight again this morning, and I was like, man, like, the size difference that I noticed just from watching the screen, I was like, I I'm a pretty confident, not easily scared person. And I'm like, oh my god. I'm watching. I'm like, I don't know how Amanda is mean being so composed.

Yeah. Absolutely. So also, though, I started working with a mindset coach a month before that. Oh, that's awesome. So my first professional MMA fight was a month before.

Okay.

And then so I did ADCC worlds, which is like a big grappling tournament for, the audience. But, I so I won the trials for that. I went to that.

And that was 2019. Right? Yeah.

And I competed like crap. And I was, like, to the point. I'm like, did I even show up? Like, it was just, like, such a bet.

It was a fun day. Feel good

warming up. Like, I went out there and just, like, competed like crap. And I'm like, that's weird. And then I just couldn't get on a groove. Right? I was, like, stuck in this, like, weird just couldn't get myself going in these competitions. And, my boyfriend was like, can you please just talk to this mindset coach?

Can you please

just talk to this mindset coach? So I end up talking to this mindset coach, and this is like 10 days before my actually, no. It was actually sooner. So my it was, like, the week of before my fight.

Wow.

And they switched my opponent last minute. So everyone was, like, also semi panicking that I was, like,

gonna panic. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You got it?

Because they were like, oh, your fight's called off. And again, I'm, like, upset because I've again, I've been waiting for this for so long. Right. And now you're gonna tell me that I just had a full training camp. Right? And training camps aren't easy. Right. You're training, like, 3 times a day. You're eating super clean.

Right. You're ready. Yes.

Everything you're doing is just for this, you know,

culminating a match.

Minute match. Right? So, they told me I don't have an opponent, so I'm, like, all upset. And then they're, like, oh, we found an opponent. So then everyone's, like, nervous about

my whole, like, headspace. Yeah.

So I, like, end up talking to this mindset coach, and he gives me, like, these couple principles. And I kid you not, I literally, like, wish someone would've told me how to prep my mind before competitions when I was, like, a child.

That's so cool.

And yeah. So now, like, that I I coach, I coach, like, every other Monday at this one school, and a a lot of the kids compete it. And I'm, like, teaching them

That's so cool.

Like, little tricks that just help me when I'm about to compete. Yeah. I'm like, I want them to understand. You know? It's so much more mental than most people believe it is. And I think now it's like that that new wave of athletes is kicking in where, you know, they are the ones seeking knowledge, and now they're starting to understand how much the mindset plays into

100%. Grappling, competing, and anything. And anything. Yes. Yeah.

Yes. So, like, again, just these little principles, like, you know, like, these mantras you say to yourself, and then basically just controlling your thoughts. Like, I would like, he, the mindset guy, his name is, Mike Mike Moore. He was basically saying, like, you know, when you compete, you have to keep your thoughts. Right? Like, it's almost like driving, Like, keeping them in between the lines. Yeah. If you start to rear off,

like Smart. You're gonna hit a tree.

Yes. Exactly. So yes. Exactly. So, you know, steer your thoughts back into, like, the middle of the lane. Like, you know, you gotta control where your thought processes are going. Yeah. And, so, like, that's what I just started doing. Like, okay. I'm I'll never say I'm nervous. I say I'm excited. I don't have to compete. I get to compete. Like, just those little things make such a difference people don't even realize. And, obviously, like, it's like buying into it too for, like, anything.

Right.

So and that's what I did. I just, like, fully absorbed into this. Like, whatever he was telling me, I was like, I am getting buying into this a 1000%. Yeah. And he was just saying, you know, how he'll get, like, a lot of, like, top athletes who won't buy into the program, and

how, like, it just, like Doesn't work.

Doesn't work for them. And he was saying how, like, when people, like, absorb themselves into it, it works. And then I'm, like, here I am. I wouldn't mind.

I'm ready. Yeah.

Just a couple principles. I, won my MMA fight, and then I won the match against Gabby.

Yeah. That I can it's funny because now that you say that, like, I remember watching the fight then and now thinking, like, wow. Like, you clearly like, you redirect every I could almost see you staying now that you put it in that perspective about staying in the lanes, I I can see that. Like, you there were many times where you guys, like, veered off, and then you just went back went right back to, like, no. This is my plan. This is my road, and you finished it. It's so cool.

Yeah. And then, like, even my first professional fight, one of the my favorite practices he had me do was he had me write down all my fears, and then, like, before we, like you know, just say, like, the morning of my fight, he had me burn the paper.

Yes. And when

I burn the paper, I have to let all that go, let all the outcomes go and just get ready. And I was, like, honestly, it was such a practice. Like, it was it actually felt, like, so great.

It's like ritualistic. Exactly. I mean, this is what tribes like, this is what tribes would do before Yeah. Big wars. Right? Mhmm. Wow. That's so cool.

Yeah. So it was, like, one of my favorite, like, things that he's he he recommended.

And how so what's the cadence of working with someone like that? Like, for you, how does that

so basically, he would talk to me once a week. Yeah. Leading up to, like, whatever. I don't work with him now, just because, like, I was injured and then Yeah. I just got, got like, he's we still are in touch and stuff. We talk. But, for the most part, like, I feel like I have, like, pretty much all the principles down to begin with. Yeah.

It's kinda like

feel confident. Yes.

Like, we give like, there are times where you have to come once a week, whatever, and we're giving you and we're like, okay. You're doing that exercise. You look good with that exercise. Let's give you this one. And then at some point, you're Good. You're doing these on your own. Right? Exactly. That's awesome.

So I would work with him once a week, and, you know, he would just, like, talk me through it. We would talk about, like, you know, what I'm nervous for, what am I prepping for. And then again, like, one another practice he had me do was just, like, comparing the my worst fight to my best fight. Right? And, you know, how I was feeling during my best fight, how I was feeling during my my worst fight, what I was thinking beforehand, how where I was in my life, and just, like Wow.

when you,

like, actually write it down on paper. Like, I couldn't even believe how different they were. Yeah.

Much it just put a scope on it. Right?

Yes. So that was such a cool practice, But yeah. So I would just work with someone's week leading up to a match, and, it would just definitely, you know, help

with the rest. Yeah. That's cool. Well, guys, this has been awesome. Thank you so much, Amanda.

I think the way you guys go about being super supportive and, like, immersing yourself into these different, like, sports. Like, I feel like you guys are, like, in the like, the way you guys injected yourself into, like, the jiu jitsu community. Right? Like, I know so many jiu jitsu people that come to you guys now. Yeah.

Yeah.

Right? Aw.

That's awesome. So, that's

another another key for me.

Well, thank you. I, I like I said, it's mutual. And I think the what that highlights to me, if you're if you wanna get into working with jiu jitsu athletes, I mean, I think what it comes down to is, like, we are immersed in that community because we do love that community. Like, we have a passion for that. And I would say, echoing what Amanda just said is, like, whatever your passion is, be true to that as clinicians, and I think that that's gonna come out in your work.

Yes. Thank you.

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