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gonna be. It's gonna be like the I'm gonna have like the Christian hobbyer. Start. Just hand it over to the bullpen immediately. Yeah, you can hand over every game, yeah instantly. You can only hand over two games each. Oh, I gotta get innings out of my starters. But that's coming up at eight Ding Goods Morning News eight thirty nine o'clock Picks with Glenn's where you can also participate in the show, so we'll have u We're
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Oklahoma City python that we've been talking about for weeks. Here roh he here h here here row here here row Good morning, Mark, how you doing here morning? It's Mike. You're a hero. Mike. Oh, thank you, sir. We didn't actually capture the animal. One of the homeowners went out to check their garbage at like one o'clock in the morning and found the thing at their trash can Oh damn it. Do you have their phone number? Then? I do not. Many they have not even identified themselves.
Wh we run a big rescue here nicolea city of exotic animals, and they we've been out there a couple of times. We helped the guys that had the dogs train the dogs to try to find it. We brought one of our snakes up there and let them put it underneath the trailer and let the dogs try to find it. And evidently that didn't work. Okay, wait, can you can you amplify that a little bit? You took one of your own rescue snakes and put it under the trailer to tests to see
if the dogs could find it. Yeah. We put it in a container that had a bunch of holes in it, fuck, a screen container so the dog could smell it. They put it under trader put the skirting back on it, and took the dogs a couple of balks away and let them start searching for it. And the dogs actually came right to the trainer and sit down next to where the snake was. Wow, okay, so that kind of worked. That's cool. So yeah, they found the I mean
it was pretty cool to watch. I hadn't I had no confidence in the dogs at all, but they actually did find it. Yeah, Mike, I gotta ask. There's been some shoddy reporting about this entire story over the last three weeks. I mean, it's been very strange conspiracies of if people at the trailer park were hushed by management. So are we to believe? And we were led to believe that this snake this we were told that it was an albino golden python had grown up to thirteen feet in size because it
had been eating a lot of stray cats. I am not certain. I mean, there are many I've touched to some detectives around this case, some distinguished detectives, including the great DFW detective Detective Dick Shale, who's like, he's possible that the python could have eaten an old woman or something. So there's a lot of crazy things that have been going around with this story. Is it true that the python that was believed to be thirteen feet was not
that big? Right? He is actually about eight feet long. I have him at our rescue right now. He's about eight feet little, maybe eight and a half feet long. He's not a fourteen foot cat eater. He hasn't eaten anything probably in the last two months at least. Oh wow, Okay, so it's safe to say that this, the python that you have in captivity, was not capable of eating a human woman. No, okay, Now most of them aren't. The stories you see on the internet and
stuff, Most of those are fakes. There's been a few instances in in like Indonesia with the big, big big reticks eating and human but it's always somebody a very very small stature. They have trouble with our shoulders. If we didn't have shoulders, it'd be no problem at all. Wow, we do. The big snakes can eat one hundred and hundred and fifty pounds pig without any problem at all. Wow. Because they don't have shoulders. They're shaped like a lauze. They go down like a big pill. But some
old ladies are shaped like a lozenge. Yep. If not, if it's one of those old ladies where her shoulders are all collapsed, yeah, then we're in a different ballpark. But when you captured the snake, you didn't see the outline of an old lady holding a TV guide or anything and had a way that was a mistake. He was liking us. Yeah, we call him back, him him I then he calls back so excited. He just clicked the wrong buttoner his face hit the button, made a snake reached
his head up there and tapped the off button. Maybe it was the TV guide that made him hang up. He didn't even barely get to that joke. He couldn't have gotten that bad and hung up that quickly. We did my reissued TV guide joke also called him Mark. Maybe the emergency snake line rang and he had to take that one. That's true. Maybe there's another one that's pretty What what if the snake just latched onto Mark's head and phone
the second he was providing this information. Hello, Mike, Sorry we lost connection with you there. How you doing no problem? It's all good, No, you're good. We appreciate you taking the time. Again. For those of you are just now joining, this is Mike from Snakes Alive OKC, which is a nonprofit. So thank you for what you guys do up in Oklahoma City. And Mike uh knows a little bit about the Oklahoma City python that we've been talking about for three weeks on the show. The reporting
has just been highly disappointing. The amount of fake news that we've detected has just been gross, to be honest. Yeah, so what the snake was hiding underneath the trailer. Was it true there was an elementary school near that trailer park? And would that snake have been at road, he wouldn't have been. Probably not an issue at all for elementary school. He's eight feet
long. The deal with those pythons, Now, if he had been fourteen feet that changes everything because at about ten feet they start to get a lot more girth and they grow slower, and so he is probably I would guess two maybe three years old. A fourteen foot snake would be five or six years old, and the girth sort of six spin he's not. He's about as big round as say, your arm, whereas if a fourteen foot snake would be bigger round than your thigh. So when there's quite a bit of
difference in just that four feet of snake, Thanks Mike. So when you were called by, you said it was a resident that was taking out their trash and discovered the snake, and you were called to come in and captured the snake. Is that is that safe to say? The resident actually took a laundry basket and put it over the top of the snake and taped it all up and wired it together and everything so the snake couldn't get out of laundry basket. Okay, wow, they didn't want anything to do with it.
And from that point, the resident captures the snake. What happens in between that and you obtaining the snake and having it at your rescue, I guess the maintenance people from the Trader park went down and got it early that morning and then they called me. They put it into a dog kennel, one of the big plastic dog kennels, and then we went and picked it up with an enclosure and brought it to our rescue, put some heat on it, and and he's dehydrated. He's got a severe respiratory infection, so
he'll go into rehab. It'll take four or five months to get him over the respiratory infection and get him well, and then we'll adopt you back out. And what is that in you say you're going to adopt him back out? Would that be to an amateur herpetologist that you know collects snakes or how
does that go? We go to a zoo normally, normally on the reticular improtence of the Burmese pythons, we have a pretty intensive adoption process, and we have to have someone who has at least two years experience with large large
snakesh it has to be experienced that we can talk to the people. It's I've been doing this since about eighty six, so I know most people in the hobby, and we have to be able to verify that they actually have experience with something that big at eight foot most people, I mean, if you look at the guy, you're like, you know, he's not that
big. But last fall, there was actually a girl during it may been earlier than that, but during COVID there was a girl up north, I believe in Indiana or Illinois who got killed by her nine foot rejick dang dam she was. It was in the middle of the night. They had a somebody had a place like a like a central location in a rent house or something where they kept all these animals at for people that couldn't keep them in there. Say she lived in an apartment. A lot of apartments won allow
reptiles. Yeah, so he basically ran out of space for them to keep all the reptiles there. So there were several people's animals in this area and she went up there in the middle of the night to feed her snake, and something happened. Normally, that's ninety five percent of the time when people get bitten or anything, it's it's during feeding. It's it's stupid feeding errors. So she did something and the snake got hold of her and got around
her neck. And it only takes you about forty five to fifty seconds for one of those guys to make you pass out, not that long. And once you pass out, the snake kept constricting around her neck, and they will constrict until they don't feel a pulse anymore. Oh, geniuses. And it actually it actually killed the girl. And that's the that's the first death I've seen in several several years from a big pythot and he wasn't even that big. This is Mike from Snakes Alive in Oklahoma City. Thank you for
I back to the adoption policy. Is there any chance you might waive that experience if the potential adopter was a local radio personality in DFW who's one second place before? Because if so, could you put Kevin Turner at the top of the list as a potential owner of the snake? He's been obsessed with this story and can you imagine Kevin, the joy of actually calling out this snake your friend incredible. I'm sure we could wish your training to take care
of it. They're not not real hard to take care of. You just have to be kind of cautious when they get big. Yeah. So I have two questions, and then if there's anything else, we'll try to be quick with you here, Mike. But one thing, is there anything to the rumor that there is another snake cat eating snake still out there? Or was this the one? I would doubt in the same area. I don't
believe there is. I think they had the one that was lose. This one if if you see the pictures of him and the original sure that was on social media, they're the same animal. It's it's hard to miss. When they first released that picture, you could tell it was it was not like a normal ano burmese. The they have a pattern down the side that
you can see, and this was more of a solid yellow color. And that's the actual python themself is called an albino golden child, and a golden child is a morph of snake that has no pattern and very little color, so it makes them almost solid yellow all the way down. Do we believe this was just a person who owned it and it just didn't take care of it or wet it out. In your estimation, what's the origin story of the snake? Normally with all the rescues, we see one of two things.
Either somebody can't take care of it and they panic and they just let it go, thinking, you know, hey, this thing, I'll be able to make it in the wild. Or they're really really good at escaping enclosures. People underestimate can be when it comes to getting out of a cage. They're not real intelligent as far as like a dog or a cat, you know, fetching your shoes or anything. But they're really really good at
getting out of enclosures. Okay, they have nothing like inmates. They have nothing better to do all day long than trying to figure out how to get out. Last question, then we'll let you go. Mike. Are you aware of the story from a couple of years ago here in town in Grand Prairie, which is a city between Arlington and Dallas, the Grand Prairie Cobra. Are you aware of that story from two years ago? I have heard about that story. We actually come down to the Dallas Fort Worth area two
to three times a month to pick up animals down there as well. Okay, there's not a lot of people that do what we do, so we get calls from all over the Midwest. Amazing. So the Grand Prarie cobra was a West African cobra that got loose, got through it, and then for some reason our local media outside of me decided to stop covering it after about two weeks of that snake being on the lamb. Do you think that snake died? Do you think someone scooped it up? It was highly venomous
snake. What do you think Hopefully the cold weather down there killed it. It would be horrible if the thing. Doubt That's another thing cobra's because of where they're at. Some of the cobras live in holes and stuff in the wilds. That's kind of what they do. So realistically, if he found him a hole to go into, took dinn up, then he could survive through the winter. What would because of concidentally, I mean, it wouldn't be on purpose. It would be really actually because they don't know how to
hibernate like our snakes do. But if he went down in a hole, he would stay there until it warmed up. Is it possible that since we you know the state of Texas and I guess Oklahoma to a certain degree, you know, I mean, we have the sweet Water Rattlesnake round up, which is a globally known event, is it possible that the cobra could have embedded with a den of rattlesnakes and become friends. I doubt it. Most of the time cobra's in the wild don't get along with other snakes. The
king cobra specifically, they eat other snakes. That's what they feed on. Well, Mike, thank you so much for your time and clearing this up. And Mike, I'm gonna keep your contact just because if we ever have any more snake issues, we'd like to, you know, go to you and and make you, you know, one of our snake experts here on the downbeat. Thanks Mike. All right, Mike, have you named the python yet? I think my wife the name Bruno. That's cute, all
right, Bruno? All right, all right, sefw, let's split a plate of Montrelli sticks at Alamo Draft House. What I was getting a text? Thanks Mike, threw that from Gary Garfield of Snakes plus and he said, I've got problems right now with this interview. He does. So let's go live to the free catline to call in Gary Snakes. You guys know Gary Garfield of the Texas Snake Institute, owner of Snakes Plus. You've seen many of their locations, including the superstore out in Saginaw. Alright, what's
in South Lake? Now that's weird superstars as well. But Gary Garfield, the owner of Snakes Plus. Hello, Gary Snakes, how you doing today? I'm doing all right, Katy? How are you? So? What what got you so hot under the collar about that interview with Mike right there who found the Oklahoma City python? Well, you know, at first, you know, first of all, I can't tell for sure with he Mike, with you Mark, he seems a little shifty in meat, you know.
And I think it's really important that with these snakes, you know, you you get them a chance to be back and released through the normal retail channels, right like we love to get rescue snakes donated to us, and then we can, you know, we can sell them to people not only who are responsible, but show that they have the fiscal responsibility to care for one of these snakes. You know, the rehab on on something like this. He was talking about antibiotics and rehab for it. That's intense work.
You know, you got to get them a pull up bar, build them an obstacle. Course, you got to get a really big treadmill. Like there's a lot that you have to do, and you know it costs some money. I have a feeling Gary Snakes, who's joining us now from Snake's plus that partner, Yeah, our partner or advertising partner. I have a feeling that snakes pluses experience requirements or maybe a little lower than the snake adoption requirements for for Mike at at Snakes Alive, Would that be fair to say
one hundred? Anybody can come into our store and pick up one of these reticulated pythons. You know, we've got Golden Child's, We've got all sorts of morphs, and you don't have to show that you have any kind of an expertise. You just have to have the you know, the will to own a snake like that, the will, the will and a credit card, a valid credit card. Yeah, we actually prefer cash. So the people who say in some you know, with some pets adopt, don't shop.
You're you're saying as a retail owner, and the w are you the biggest I think that that's not a mantra that you would agree with at all. Right, absolutely, I would say, shot, don't adopt right like you want a snake that you can get from right at the beginning of this life, and then you can take it and mold it, train it to be your pal. Go through any of our numerous courses. My buddy and me like snake courses where you like learn alongside with your snake, and those
are available for very reasonable prices. But those are also those are only cash. Yeah yeah. Gary. By the way, thank you for stepping up and putting us in our hotel rooms in Houston the other night. We appreciate your partnership over the years, no matter how critical I have been of some of your practices. I'm not a snake expert and I'm not a herpetologist like yourself, though, but I thank you for stepping up and getting us those
hotel rooms in Houston the other night for Game seven. Yeah, you bet, I was kind of I was kind of hoping we could get you know, we've got a nineteen foot anaconda at our Wataga Superstore, one of our many superstore and I was hoping we could get that in the back of the expedition with you guys. But you know, I guess Mike wasn't able to drive out to Atago on the way down south, so I understand time was tight, and we thought that would have been a blast to have it for
you all to have at the baseball game. Yeah, we had to bring him to the game if we could have gotten to a tag in time, but we could have hidden it inside the crotch of my cow uniform. Yeah yeah, all right, Gary, real quick. I know you've been free and open with any snake issues at any of your stores. Everything smooth sailing, any snakes on the loose recently. Anything we need to know about either any of the Snake stores or at Spider Town. There's really nothing that I
can comment on legally at this point. You know, I've generally got three four seven eight lawsuits and litigation at any given time, and there's nothing that we've closed the books on recently. We also are kind of at a lower number of stores right now. We're limited to our superstores because a lot of the twenty seven locations that we talk about get converted to Spirit Halloweens. Yeah, in September and October. Yeah, sure, So we're about to have
our big expansion and get ready for Christmas. That sounds great, Gary. And again, yes, thank you for sponsoring our hotel in Houston. I feel like the accommodations that we stayed in we're very reflective of the of the business model that you've curated through this number of years. Thank you so much. Oh it's my pleasure. All right, Gary, we'll talk to you
down the road. That's Gary Snakes. You know them as Gary Garfield actually been for sure the North Texas Snake Institute and the owner of all of our Snakes Plus and Spidertown stores here in the Metroplex. And thank you to Parker University. I hope you're proud of what we've done for you. This segment coming up next, you can call two and four or eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven one if you want to be Danny or Mike's bullpen
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