This is a downbeat on ninety seven to one the Freak. If you did not know it, we started to show at six am. You get on that Wee podcast over you see a segment after the show, and you could collect those on the iHeartRadio app, which is free. We'll take your talkbacks to the Heart Radio app and we'll check that out here in a little bit. There's some more maps ticket giveaways a little bit later in the week. So a little a little tip. It's not hardcore breaking news. It's just
a little something pumped up. So you know how we're about to enter the winter's cold that spring wheel race, okay, and we're on our own grid. So there's a plan, according to the Dallas Wanting News, a plan to link orcott the grid to the southeastern US states. It is a private company that's been hired to create the Southern Spirit Transmission, which would be a four hundred line from the Texas Louisiana border through Louisiana and Mississippi that would essentially
not make Texas just be the Texas grid. So this is gonna slow our secession. I know, right, I'm pissed. What is this liberal agenda? Mike, he really wants to secede from the union. I do from the best vocal member of media. Yeah, we got touchdown Teddy on the case. What do we need to worry about? Power for boy? He you know what, he took it in the shorts. Remember he had a He was at the Longhorns game the other night and he got as he does every time. Yeah, he gets blamed for he goes to a game and
his team loses. Someone posts a picture of him wearing their gears. Yeah to Astros a lot. I don't know if it was on this I think it was our station. Sometime they had his record of games that he's attended and he had to respond to with like I remember the Astros victory and this he listed a bunch of wins he was at. Yeah, just got to get the record straight. Yeah, more wins than losses. So yeah, touchdown ted Touchdown Teddy, touchdown Teddy. I wonder if he was at the
Sugar Bowl on Monday night. He was, That's why was he really? Yes, that's why this all came about. So I have done a bit of a This is not a research project at all. This is something that I saw that was happening over the holidays kept seeing this name and I was like, I don't know what this is. I don't know what this is. And then granted, I look my it sounds weird to say the word
my fiance and I'm the financier. The fiance Roxy is thirty. So but she's you know, she stays on the tick and does you know she's more hip to things than I am? And she hips me to things and I'm just like, hell yes. And then I like to imagine when she's listening to an eighteen minute version of Number forty one, that she's like, he hips me to things. I like to imagine that it's not true. I like to imagine that joke. For nine we're broadcasting Kevin Dave Matthews thing he
just did. So this whole Gypsy Rose thing is going nuts now. Before if you're at the wistling you don't know what that is, don't don't worry. We'll get there. And I'm like, okay. She's like, you've never heard of it, and I'm like, no, you've never heard of her. I'm like, no, I haven't. As you show these things, all these night clubs are holding getting Gypsy for tipsy or getting tipsy for gypsy parties, look for toys or just for fun getting throwed for gypsy rows?
Like all these theme night how many other ones clubs are happening? There are many more? Any do you like two more? Do six more? Here's Kevin with six more? Okay, he's trying hard. He's like Rose, No, he had two? You had two? He actually had one because the second one didn't even work. Tipsy for gypsy is good? What's the second one? You did? It was getting throwed for Gypsy Rose? See that doesn't So he had one and one bar probably did it. Okay,
you don't worry about it. It was multiple bars. It was a big story. And the people are like, it's a bit of an internet meme that Gypsy Rose is free. So what do you guys know about Gypsy Rose? Blanchard or Blanchard? Do you want us to play dumb and act like we don't know or do you want me to tell you. I'll play dumb because I think you know something, but I would need you to yell I five here got you? Okay? I watched the Hulu show I know.
It's about a kid who's convinced the kid that she was sick and they lied for sympathy and money and then someone got killed. That's it. But start this thing from dead square one, please. Well, she was released from prison last Thursday, and that's why this is in the news. She was serving a ten year sentence for being an accomplice to the murder of her mother. Okay, she had served eight years of that and then was released.
She's found guilty of helping kill her abusive mother. Now, this was the subject of an HBO documentary in twenty seventeen and a Hulu series in twenty nineteen, a dramatic series. Yeah. Yeah, like six or eight episodes or something. Yeah, and that's what it was called The Act. The I think the HBO doc is called Dead Mommy and Dearest I believe, And they're about to have a lifetime series, which you know when I watch that or anything. But they're about to have that in the news, okay over
the last week because she got released. Yeah. In the Act was four years ago, and the mom, DeeDee Blanchard, was played by Patti Arquette Yah Patricia Arcatt who she's really really good in it. That's her best role ever as playing the crazy mom, and a lot of things. She was
awesome in uh Escape from Dana Mora as well. So Gypsy Rose was the victim of her mother's diagnosis basically well, it ended up being a diagnosis of munchausend by proxy, which is when you fictitiously impose disorders on another person. And usually this happens with children, and happened very often, but it haves so basically the mom she married a guy super young. He's an Irish feller,
like eighteen or night eighteen or nineteen. He ended up running off before you know, really like he helped make a Gypsy Rose as the father, but he was not around. He is involved in the documentary I watched, so he wasn't involved in her life, but he did have communication with her. Gypsy Rose was in a wheelchair, she had a feeding tube installed, was led to believe that she was paralyzed below the waist. She was not
paralyzed below the waist. But her whole upbringing I mean includes her mom lying to several different doctors. One she's got leukemia, one she said that she is she's slow, basically basically said that she suffered from retardation. I mean, there's all kinds of things and d D is the name of the mother. D D. Blanchard was by Gypsy's side almost all of her first twenty
years of life. So here's the first clip, and this is Gypsy in prison, okay, and she's doing an interview for this documentary, and she's talking about all of the things that her mother said that she had. Now this is at this time, Gypsy is probably in her mid to late twenties. What illnesses did your mom say that you have? Asthma, epilepsy, hearing in teraired vision impaired, was feeding to paralyzed from the waist down slow
so retardation and among other things. I just can't remember them. So ever, since she was a kid, that's all she's known and the mom treated and she had been just basically told you were you know, you're disabled because the mom did not want her to grow up and leave. She didn't want to be left alone, right, that's part of it, I think, although we don't I don't know that, And maybe that's covered in that, combined with massive amounts of psychosis as well. Yeah, no, absolutely,
And that's the HBO documentary lays it out a few different ways. But I never got to the point I mean they they played the fraud angle up really well. I mean they were getting she was getting taken on trips to children's hospitals, like here's a hot tub, here's a new car. She might have James like four times. Yeah, I got to meet Kevin James four times. This is her make a wish was James? What a great reference. So her entire life, she's led to believe she can't walk, and
dude, it's crazy. There's an odd one. There's you know, because you're like, mommy, I'm standing Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no. And that's how it's portrayed in the in the the dramatized series. Yeah, yeah, we'll sit down. You're paralyzed. Yeah, And I mean she was bedridden for you know, a lot, because she went to many different doctors, flied to many different doctors, and then
you know, so she would every time. It's not like she had some normal life where she was able to run around all the time, feeding to installed in her she was in pain. How does a doctor do that. That's where it gets wild. And they say that her mother was a master manipulator. It was her area of expertise. If she was on the floor it would be a manipulation. Okay. Gypsy Rose is told she can't walk, but has spent a lot of time at doctor's offices, hospitals, surgeries.
One thing I'm not super clear about is that if she was walking home, which may have been portraying in that Hulu series. Ever, No, but there's footage of her as a kid playing outside in the snow and she's dragging herself on the ground. But if you're watching it, you're like, well, she's dragging herself on the ground, but she's also moving your legs.
And there's a scene where her dad and her stepmom are going through old doctor records with an investigator and they're showing them and they're showing all the lying the mother had done. And there's one specific record from a neurologist, and this is Gypsy was fourteen at the time, and you're gonna hear this neurologist basically had put in his notes that the mother's a bad life, doesn't have a good history, you know, basically saying, your mother's a liar.
And this is kind of one thing that just got swept under the rug that if they would have found, maybe none of this ever happens, but she was fourteen at the time. My mother is not a good historian, which is interesting because he puts that in bold and underlines it. One of the things was a big discrepancy was that for a person that has not walked for ninety years, she should have technically almost no muscles in her lower extremity.
But she didn't have muscles. Let's looked quite normal if she was able to support her body weight. I remember her standing. So I had a big doubt about the whole thing throw the beginning. Analyzing all the facts, and I'm talking to a previous pediatrician. There's a strong possibility of Munchausen by proxy,
with maybe some underlying unknown ideology to explain her symptoms. So it's right there on the doctor's nuts from the neurologists that they found when they're investigating, you know, ten years later, if the dad was around, I said on that HBO doc, the dad who is not around a lot as a you know, this his his uh now why his new wife, which would be Gypsy's stepmom. Boy, she talks a lot in this thing, And
I'm like, maybe this isn't your story. St I'm like, y'all, were around, so it's it's interesting now they're trying to do the right thing and find out and try to help her now and they are involved in her life now or but ideally will be now. But that was very strange. Now the neurologist caught it. But later he said he reported it in his notes that they have a system in place about contacting social services only for when the kids neglected. Right, so she's being overtreated. He just put,
you know, in his notes what he saw the mom's battle. Liar, she I think she's been walking, But he said, look, I'm not the way the system works. She's being overtreated. She's not being neglected, and they would have they would have listened to me. I did my job. Hopefully that's been redefined since then, because that is still a form of neglect. Yeah, and I mean this guy I think is just guilty of maybe doing his job and not overdoing his job. On to the next patient.
Yeah, I put in the notes it's up to you know. Now it gets really complicated, all cut corners, Mikey, we're humans's right. It gets real complicated though, as Gypsy gets a little older, and also, you know, maybe a little bit of a you know, the internet age. I mean there's a lot of things you can think. So she is basically on the Internet at night when her mom is asleep a lot. And like Keaven, she's in the age range of eighteen to twenty two I'll
say loosely eighteen plus. As this is happening now, she's not. She doesn't have the brain capacity of an eighteen year old at that time because her life was stunted. And this is when she first meets a boy online. I met Nick through a Christian dating website. Thought it was cute to check him out. Femine wink an me when that gypsy had no template for romance. His background equipped him with a bad narratives in different ways, so it
was like two bad narratives collided with each other. Go to. John also has a criminal past. In twenty thirteen, he was arrested after investigators saying he was watching pornography and fondling himself in a McDonald's restaurant for nine hours, police finding a large knife during the erection. My headphones just fell off because I was about to say I but then I was like nine hour Jesus,
I mean, dude, three square meals. I was like, you know, following this documentary and I was like, okay, this is a terrible story. And then we took her, which she starts beating boys take a break in the middle to grab a mcdeal tea recharge nine hours. It happened within nine minutes. I'm going to bed. Christian dating website is still doing it. I'm not going over there. I don't know. Just take take go to the windows. Grimace sat Grimace over there? Amen? What you
doing? You may have the wrong pitch your voice for Grimace though, as we don't know. Don't add Grimace to Danny's character lists in development and ambiguous and one more time Go to John also has a criminal past. In twenty thirteen, he was arrested after investigators saying he was watching pornography and fondling himself in a McDonald's restaurant for nine hours. Pile he's finding a large knife during the arrest. Okay, what fundle himself for nine hours? Nick? Go
to John? Is his name? Nine hours? You should know this. Diagnosed with Asberger's and autism. His parents said that the doctor said he would always be in the frame of mind kind of a fifteen or sixteen year old okay, and he also claims also claims they had multiple personalities. This is all yeah, right there something in the nine hours. I'm kind of, yeah, another one. I got to get this other person going and this other person so maybe so he was on medication for multiple personalities. Buckle up
here. As we go forth with the romance with him and Gypsy Rose, at first, it was all lighthearted. You know, if you got married, where would you like to have your honeymoon? You know, where would you like to get married? Where all the places you want to travel? Different things like that, normal stuff. And as it progressed, things got weird. I started talking about something called BBSM, and at first I didn't know what it was, so I looked it up. Once I looked up,
I'm like, I don't want to do this. And then he kind of just toopped me into it, like they don't fine, you know, try this with me, and so I agree to it. Then his ex had bessaged me and she told me, you know, he's a really bad guy. He thinks he's a vampire and he's in all this dominant submissive stob And I was thinking, it's just an ex. You know, she's just bad mouthing him. She doesn't know anything, she's jealous, blah blah blah.
She's right, I really don't know what's wrong with him. But I mean, it's not like I ever had a boyfriend before, and she was just excited that someone would talk to her. You know, that's not her mother, So sad you said she is in her twenties when this audio is being yes, okay, it doesn't sound like it sounds like a ten year old. Yeah, No, that's what's crapy about. It needs to be repeated for sure. Now time goes on, she keeps getting more frustrated with
her brother. She can't get help from anybody. In fact, there's one an anonymous report was sent into the place that her mother was abusing her. The police go over, they see Gypsy in her bed. Mother's there, you know, and Gypsy's bald because her mother's told her that she has cancer, right, so she wore wigs and all the time. Things like that. Her mother has paperwork that easily explains all the things, because somehow she
fell through every single crack that the system had to off. Yeah, to the uninformed eye, it looks like this mother is taking great care of this very sick child. So Gypsy gives up keeps talking to Nick go to John online, they haven't met yet, and through text messages they came up with a plan and she's finally had enough and she's like, I'm ready, let's kill her. So D D. Blanchard was killed in June twenty fifteen. Gypsy was in her early twenties at that time. Nicholas go to John showed
up at the house. Gypsy opened the door for him while she was sleeping. He walks in stabs her to death in her sleep. Oh, obvious case of premeditated murder. They tried to make it look like Gypsy's Facebook was hacked, so they had posted that bitch is dead, and then a few minutes later there's an on the post that says Ifing slashed that fat pig and raped her sweet innocent daughter. Police easily tracked the IP to go to John's house, which was six hundred miles away. He had traveled that far to
go do this and to see her, and that's where they found. Two days later, Nick and Gypsy at Nick's house and it's say in a hotel room. The night after the murder, on the way back to his house, they'd say a hotel room. And that's where I made the joke, the very sad joke where he's in bed again. This kid, they're in
their twenties. He's in bed, he's not wearing anything. He's got a brownie on his chest and he's got a smile and he gives a piece over the camera and she's like, is my boyfriend now he's eating a brownie and later he's gonna eat me? Was that actually that was said in the video? Oh yeah, okay. Gypsy pled guilty to second degree That was the
night after the murder. Whenever that happened in the night Gypsy played guilty of the second degree murder was since the ten years in prison, they had to rework it to not be first agree murder because they're like, look, she was abused and she didn't actually do it. Yeah, she's got to do sometime. So she was let out. Know, go to John convicted the first degree murder or sentence to life in prison and that's where he will be. Uh. Gypsy got released last week, turns into an internet sensation,
took selfie of herself. It's going line people magazines, you know, tweeting about it, and people were throwing out she wants to meet Taylor Swift, like that's all, And that's like how this became a big thing, and there a lot of people were having parties to celebrate that she was released because a lot of people thought it was wrong that she went to prison, but
she still killed her mother, yes, you know. So it's like, I don't know, and she's become in prison a lot more I think educated over time because you had some really or maybe she's just done a lot of interviews, but she's really like pretty well spoken answers in terms of like asked questions like do you think you know your mom should be dead? And she's like, no, absolutely, what happened should not have happened. But I do think her mom, my mom should have spent time behind bars, Okay,
And it's like yeah, I can see that. Yeah, so it's a tricky thing of should she be out. I don't know. I tend to feel sorry for her when I watch all of this. Yeah, I'm surprised she did as much time as she did, if any at all. It seems like, yeah, you definitely can put the but I mean, god, his whole mental state was probably pretty messed up too. It's really
bad. And you know, they get him in a couple scenes in this HBO documentary, which is from twenty seventeen, and they're like, okay, did you He basically has to tell the investigators, look, I think necrophilia is terrible. Why would you ask that, you know, like, because they're like, we don't know how crazy he is. Is he gone for a long time? Ye in prison, life in prison, life in prison. No McDonald's, no more Donalds for him, but yeah, that's the
time you want. But yeah, he can break his record. You know, his parents talk. They were like, he's kind, he's kind of an outcast. Gypsy was and this is what's not real clear to me. She was sending pictures that the the BDSM stuff. They weren't They hadn't met, you know, they tried to meet at a movie they went to, like a Disney movie. Weirdly, Gypsy's mom took her to a movie.
It was like a Cinderella movie or something, and he showed up and Gypsy knew it, but like he couldn't sit, you know, where they were. But Gypsy like went to the bathroom and they went and had sex for the like upon meeting each other, they went, I'm assuming into the handicauch stall. I'm assuming it's just an assumption, just because there's more room in there and rails. It just makes well. And she's in the wheelchair,
you know, if she could stand up. But then, like her mom found out that he had gone, so they had gotten in a big fight over that that he was there now, So I don't know how much else the mom knew about the romance. There's a lot of questions you could ask, how was she getting wigs and lingerie Amazon to her house because she was doing that and taking pictures and sending them to him six hundred miles away. Incredible. It's the craziest stuff ever. It's so wild. She's married too.
Didn't she get married while she was in I got married in prison. She's living with him now, the new husband. Really Yeah, so there's another guy who's like Gypsy Rose girls in prison. I love her And that's just like a fan of the story. Oh wait, you don't look like that actress. Can't be real? Okay? Is that fifty four percent of you voted on that you wanted to hear today? So thank you? Kevin's
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