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gonna quickly reset it up. I'm gonna reset it to him right when I get on the phone. But uh, it's a guy I worked with thirty years ago, thirty two years ago, if I do my math correctly. We worked at a golf course together in Sarasota, Florida. I remember being a cool guy. He really helped me understand the game of golf. Compressed the ball with your irons, hit down into it. H But he was a NASCAR fan. I was going to the Daytona five hundred. I believe
that you're Derek Cope one. He said, hey, man, can you bring me something back? I'm like, sure, who's your favorite race car driver? And he said, I don't know, Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt. It's a big ask. It's the And I'm like, well, I'll see what I can do. My dad got us pit passes were kind of right in all the good stuff at Daytona. I got Richard Petty's autograph on the back of this pit pass, the King, and he was cool.
He was signing for everybody. Dale Earnhardt crashed in the last lap. He famously could not win the Daytona five hundred. He was at one of the lowest moments of his career and he was walking through the pits. The intimidator mustachioed scary, and I said, well, my friend Ron Gilligan said this was his favorite driver, so I went for it. I was a little kid. He autographed the back, so it's a pit pass with both the King, Richard Petty, and Dale Earnhart written on the back of it.
I drive all the way back to Sarasota, I go to work, and I hand it over to a guy named Ron Gilligan. I don't regret it. It felt good to do something nice for somebody, and I think from when I remember, he was excited to get it. I haven't really made much of an effort to find him, but we yesterday tracked Ron Gilligan down. He doesn't know what this is. Because we talked to a coworker of his yesterday. We're going to cold call him right now and tell him this
whole story. There's a chance he blinks and says I have no recollection of that. He may not even agree to be on the radio. Yeah. I'm gonna a lot of different ways. I'm gonna try to just kind of sneak that one buy him. So let her up. We were told yesterday that he'd be here, be in the office today, cold calling Ron Gilligan. If you're just to everyone, pins and needles, okay, run, okay, it was three yesterday. It was three or four. Come on,
after that setup. We told him it was dangerous. Okay, it's climb back. Just that right. It's a big auction warehouse. Huge. Look at their website, My god, massive, Look at a Ron Gilligan. Please, this is younger Ron. Can I help you? This is the son of the original Ron Gilligan. I suppose all right. My name is Mike Siroy, and I think I was a coworker of I believe your dad's then about thirty years ago in Sarasota. That was me then, that was me? Okay, Ron, My name is Mike Siroy, I'm hosting
a morning show in Dallas, Texas. We are live on the air with me and my buddies Kevin and Danny. How are you doing, my friend, I'm doing well. Thank you. You had two minutes to chat with us, sure, so were you gonna? This is all nice, This is all kind. There don't to worry about. Here. Was it Laura Loake Country Club that you worked at? Yes, it was all right. My name is Mike Siroy. I was a little blonde, blonde teen and we worked together in the cartbarn and golf operations. That is correct. Do
you have any recollection of that name or that person? I can't put a face to it, but I remember Mike, and sorry, I can't do better than that. After thirty years. That's quite all right, thirty two years, if I do my math right, And to credit you, I've always had you in my head as the man who we were on the back of the range right next to Monica Sellis's house. That's exactly right, and
that was this is awesome. That was the day. Yes, any of my friend's Dana, you have no idea how excited we are we trying to track you down for twenty four hours. And we've heard this story for years. I've known Mikey for like twenty years and he's always told this story and we rot to get to it. But Kevin and I are like just I mean, it's like we've got Kareem abdul Jabbar on the phone or something.
Ron Gilly, I remember the day that we were hitting on the back of the range and you were a good golfer and you got me to hit the hit down on the irons and really compress the ball. And in my head at some level I kind of credit you with getting me to properly hit a golf ball. Well, thank you, and you're you're exactly right. And that was a rare day. That place was so exclusive and we're barely allowed to hit golf balls at the golf course. I just told them earlier.
I actually got fired from that place. I don't even remember an old guy named Aubrey, but I broke Oh yeah, this is awes yep. I remember Arey Aubrey was the one he was stick to tens and twenties in his right pocket and just put his ones in his left pocket and try and screwy about all the kids. Out of their tip money. Yeah, we pulled our money and he would have the five and ten dollars pocket back left right.
Yep. I remember I was older than you guys, and I actually called home and it said something to my mother about what was going on. She says, well, don't get yourself in trouble and get fired. I said, this is a bunch of bs. So I called Aubrey out, and then Aubrey and I didn't get along very well after that. At least everybody got their fair shake. Well, I got fired indirectly by Aubrey because I broke his wooden chair the day that the Orlando Magic got the number one
pick overall, meaning they would get Shaquille O'Neill. Oh, that's funny, it's funny. Yep. I remember Aubrey. And then was Bob, Bob Dombroski I think was his name, was the guy was like in charge of us? Okay, that's right, there was a Bob. Was he the GM that scared us? Yep? Yeah? And Aubrey was always the one that was is the church goer and holier than now and stealing from us? Yep, exactly right. I hope I don't offend anybody on the air that
tracks. Actually, that's all pretty much what I said. All right, well, amazing. I'm happy to talk to you Ron. I know you're doing well. You're in Pennsylvania, you got an auction house, and we'll be glad to pub it a little bit later. But the main reason I wanted to have you on is because I brought you a gift once and this is sort of a seasonal gift because yesterday was the Daytona five hundred. Do you have any idea what direction I'm going with that? No? I always
went to the Daytona five hundred. What did you bring me? Was it a hat? No? No, I went with my dad, who was a boat racer, and he was sort of off. Yeah it was something. Yeah, it was a signed Was it a signed press pass from dal Oarnhardt? Whoa okay, yes, holy crap, yes, validated once again. What it was exactly was I was going to Daytona. We had talked a little racing, and I asked you who your favorite drivers were, and
you say Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt. That's correct. And I said all right, and I went there and because we had a pit pass, I got Richard Petty to autograph it. Early in the day I saw the King, and then after Dale Earnhart had crashed, I said, screw it, my man, Ron Gilligan, that's the second driver, and I got both Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt Senior to autograph the pit pass, and I went back to Sarasota and I gave it to you. Yeah, I guarantee I
have that somewhere in my collection of items. I'm actually going to go find it now. You mentioned that, well, amazing. I would love nothing more than to just see a photograph of both sides of that pit pass to ensure that it didn't all happen in my head. But I'm glad you kind of remember. Oh I do remember now, yep, yep. But it took me a second. I knew you got me something signed. That's what
it was. So Ron, how old would you have been about this time, because Mike you had been twenty three, So Mikey, you were probably what like sixteen? Maybe probably sixteen? Yeah? Is that right? Yeah? Okay, Okay, that's awesome. So my question was to Mikey earlier or yesterday, It's like, I wonder if you giving him this, you know, what's prop now. It might be I don't know, worth a few bucks if that was maybe starting the end or created the inspiration for you
to get into the business that you're in now. I know what started me to get in the business I got into is Mikey and I working down there, and I wasn't going to make much money doing that. I was doing so I can back home and got in the auctioneering business, which is the best thing I ever did, really, And now I played golf once a year, believe it or not. Oh, come on, he had a sweet swain. I mean, we're very lucky. We're busy as we are. See you run. We saw the website. You run an get pubbet,
I'm pubbe whatever you want. Man, we got a big audience here in Dallas. Oh. I just do everything local. But it's great to talk to everybody in Dallas. I'm glad to help. I think I actually got fired because Aubrey was friends with some assistant pro hated my guts because we used to get in so much trouble down there, and I think he said that I was stealing golf balls out of Monica Sellus's bag. My god, right, yep, that would be like him to do that. Yeah sucks.
Yeah, Aubry sucks. That's the thing is, see when you were and Ron knows this, when you work at a golf course, like you're working there so you can play free golf, you know, and they were. It was a kind of a new course. It was beautiful, I remember, very kind of exclusive. But they wouldn't let us out there at all. No, you couldn't do anything. Yeah, well damn it,
Ron, that's amazing. Honestly, I've had your name in my head for a long time, mainly because you taught me how to hit an iron properly, but also because of that Dale earnhart h Richard Petty thing that I remember giving you thirty two years ago. Oh I'm glad I could remember all that and verify all your truthfulness. Thank you with Ron's recollection of detail and facts.
I mean, but Mikey even told us earlier about Aubrey is like, yeah, you had the one dollar pocket and the five dollar part pocket, but I mean Ron's only difference is it was a ten and a twenty dollars pocket. Oh yeah, yeah, he was definitely he was definitely knew what he was doing. Ron. You may not know it, but you're a legend here in DFW. I mean, our listeners are like, we're getting like instant feedback. I can't believe it. The real life Ron Gilligan on
the phone. People were asking for his autograph, Like, we've been talking about you for a couple of days. For longer than that, Ron, because I've had a show on and off in Dallas for almost twenty years, and every time Daytona comes around, we'll kick around some old stories and I'll always tell that one about how because that's an incredible you know, Dylor Hunt, Richard Petty's a pretty cool thing to have on a pit pass for sure. And I'm like, I had it and I gave it to this guy
who said he was fans of them both. So I bring up the story a lot, and it's obviously a memorable name, Ron Gilligan. So yesterday I was like, we're gonna we're calling Rodn Gilligan and someone texted, Oh my god, you're gonna effing get Ron Gilligan on the phone. Yeah, right, what do you think that press pass would actually be worth? I mean, you probably have a good idea of being in this type of business in the NASCAR World. It probably worth good money. I'm going to I'll
have to find that thing you got. Whenever you're off the air, give me a buzz back. I'll get your number, and if I will find that, i'll text your photo of it. I would love to just see a picture of both sides of that. I can do that. What a day. That's really cool. Honestly, I feel very very happy to talk to you. Great memories, and honestly, he's right, there was some If you work at country clubs, there are some mean people and some shooty
people. But I remember and when you're sixteen, someone who's twenty three is like older and yeah, cool, And I just remember Ron being a really cool dude who took good care of the youngsters. And it's just good to hear from you and really cool to hear that you're doing well. Man. Man, I want me to say one more thing when you talk about working at the country club, Mikey, what I've learned about if I go to a restaurant and tip, I learned everything I learned at that golf course.
I learned that a guy that worked for himself and made his own money would hand us five dollars as fancy you can get out of his pocket. And the guys that their parents worked and made the money or their grandparents made the money. And these people didn't do anything in their life. They couldn't get a dollar out to give you for taking the clubs out of the car or
cleaning their clubs for them. And I've always made my own money, and I've always taken good care of people out and about tipping wise, I learned that from that job, Hey, Amanda, that I try to be a very good tip for myself. I don't know if it's the exact same lesson, but maybe it's working in that industry. Uh, set us. You need to give me a call on college football season. I'm located about in the shadow at Penn State Beaver Stadium, So whenever Texas is back up on
top of Penn State is again, we'll talk some more. Let me tell you this. I don't I wouldn't have told you this back in the day, but I grew up with before I met you and to this day, and I'm great friends with Manny Diaz. You're departed, right, Yeah, yeah, he grew up in Miami. We we all went to school together. Well, we just lost him to Duke Yep. I know, boy, he was made. Our defense was outstanding this past year. Yeah,
he's a stud. Ron Gilligan, man, I can't believe that the Ron Hey, Ron stannhold our producer JJ will get your cell phone number so Mikey can text you. Yeah, good god, how cool was that? The hell? That is like the best guests we've ever had ours, Like, Ron is awesome. I make a beer with that. I do too, Rob freaking yeah gill So he had me by seven years Yeah, yeah, exactly your age. It's insane, so awesome, dude. I'm so happy because even when I said it, he was like, I don't know,
you bring me a hat or something. But then he stopped me. Wait a minute. Yeah no. By the way, he sounds like he could have been on dragnet. Yeah, dude, what a great fifty. That's the power of a landline. Dude. Yeah, but that too, like if you someone brought up something from twenty five years ago, another thirty thirty, thirty two years, Well, it's something that you haven't thought about.
Yeah you know. Yeah, well and he still has it. Yeah, that's that's want to see it. He probably knows pretty close to where it's at too, of where it is. I remember how they signed it like kind of diagonally. I just I can see it, but obviously I haven't held it in thirty plus years. How do you feel right now? I'm really stoked, man. It's good to I mean, it's cool to hear
just some memories of working there and just the money thing with Aubrey. I don't know, it's but just somebody that you haven't actually spoken to in over thirty years. And to have that, I mean it took a second or two, but not long. Ye. To have all that, the clarity and the memories and the recognition come back and being able to kind of have that conversation, that's got to be a really kind of a cool feeling,
like being reunited with a long lost family member to a certain degree. Yeah, I remember being a cool dude, cool dude, and he still is. I thought he was about to invite invite us up to Penn State game for the white out. Yeah. Well when you do text him say, look, man, it sounds like you're doing really successful. You don't have
time to play. You gotta put a little money in the website, bro, Just a little bit a scratch the start show, throw it out, your uh your it maybe your theory from earlier though, maybe he's gone vintage on purpose and it works now because no one sees websites like that. Ron sounds very old school. I kind of doubt it, Yes, kind of seemed kind of yeah, it seems like he's been doing this a long time and just said, you know what, this website works right works on.
That was cool. Good job, Ron, so cool that you Ron Gilli super tas real quick the President's We'll do it next and the talk backs. Olivia Rodrigue is twenty fantastic. Oh vampire song, I'm a fan. Flay up. She just turned twenty JJ. We cranked my audio up for a minute. I'd like to do one hint because I made a little playlist for Mike. I haven't sent it yet. I'm curating a pop playlist for you. Uh, not that I'm god of pop or anything, but I feel
like you would like Olivia Rodrigue like I think you would like it. He likes the Vampire song. I love the Vampire song. Kevin's making you a mixtape. I am. I'm making Mike a mixtape. Do you think maybe you wouldn't like it. I don't know. Maybe you think it sucks. This is here you go. This is Olivia Rodrigue for you, Mike,
I think you like everything. I listened to it. Give it a chance, Danny on bass for you, domb Really easily you found a new girl, and it only took a couple of weeks from number one you said that you want it. It gives me the wor know. I don't want to sto it now. It just hit me as like our audience is going. I like her. Sound man just played the Vampire song. I would have instantly been happened. She had definitely copied the chorus of a Paramour song.
I think here we go with more. This is Kevin's favorite. I love Olivia Rodrigo. She's great. Well, you love Paramore. I love Paramore. They're great. I didn't know she was nineteen twenty when I saw that performance. Do you be Grammy? Do you feel I don't know guilty? No, I wasn't horny watching her. I thought it was a great performance and a cool song. She doesn't look young to the this much horny? That was zero horny. Jerkson profars thirty Mikey, don't stick me in the
eye and say that you want this much horny. I've never that much horny. That's much horny, Okay, mane under six. I didn't have a boner watching her performance song my Grammys. I just thought it was a cool song. JJ just made stink face and you said boner. Okay, who's Profar? Jerkson? Profar is thirty There we go, Rihanna's thirty six. She's saying you nasty now. Danny had boner patrol when she did the pregnant
Super Bowl halftime show. What she's divine? She's absolutely divine. I think I could say not she is. But there's something about Rahoney really oh boy, but you know what it is. It's I think she would just beat the absolute crap out of me. Yeah, you know why, because I deserve it. God, that was telling you watch this watermelon head. Jeez, someone wants some femdom. I know why you want to crush. Now,
don't bite your bottom lip after you say that he does. That's right, baby, come and get it. He wants someone to tell him he's a disgusting idiot. Pig. You're the pig. I could not keep up with Rihanna. There's no way, leap up? Yeah, no one could she rolls deep he he's have Rockies, probably having our time keeping up with Rihanna as soon as possible, Rocky. Yes, Miles Tyler's thirty seven Miles
Tyler. Oh, you're clapping for miss Teller, Aaron Rodgers fan. He's one of Aaron Rodgers buds right justin Verlanders forty one and if you want, you can see about a minute of him and Kate Upton. Haven't at it. There's that video out clapping cheeks. Really pull that up. Stefan Marburry's forty six up. Strawberry came out with affordable Basketball. Shoot. Hell yeah, he did thirty five bucks for a minute. Yeah many times? Is
Donald Trump played basketball? Why that come because he's selling high tisketball shoes? Yeah, gold basketball shoes. Dude, all right, I know you want to pair. Oh I do want to pair. Let me tell you the racket on top of the racket, on top of the racket. Uh huh. So I was looking at the eBay yesterday, looking at final sales prices four thousand dollars for some of these some of these eBay these things don't get delivered until July. Like, even if you won the pre order and paid
the four hundred dollars, you don't get the shoes till July. They're waiting for the reissues if you ever get the shoes. But even if you do, there are multiple accounts on eBay with zero feedback that are selling these for four plus thousand dollars in credible zero feedback, meaning they didn't win the damn shoes. They're never getting the shoes if you buy them from someone with zero feedback. They started that account to sell you a pair of shoes that doesn't
exist yet and that they will never have. It's amazing. I wonder where they get four g's and cash out. I wonder where they learned their business model from Aubrey. From Aubrey, I don't know from Aubrey at what's the country Club? Laurel Oaks, Laurel Oaks. Andrew Sho's fifty seven. He's Billy on Melrose Place. Also, yeah, he was married to Amy Woaba whoa wombach whoa back Ammy warm back no woa bore. She started having interactions
sexually with her co anchor TJ. Holmes. What's his name? You're telling the story of America Affair. She the woman in the Good Morning America Affair, was married to Andrew Shoe Billy from Melrose Place. Good. Cidy Crawford's fifty eight Good, There we go Old fifty eight, Yeah, forever, Fritz Stewart's sixty, Charles Barkley sixty one, the round Mound of rebound, nicky Yeah. Mitch McConnell is eighty two eighty two. Huh, he is just pausing, screen saving, pausing. He's tired, pH let him leave
him be. Oh, I I am tired. His thoughts just came back. He's good now. Uh. And Kurt Cobain would have been fifty seven Christina. Tough day for Christina. We'll hold out a thought for her coming up next. Let's go. I gotta call around Gilligan Off the Air Presidential Explosion, Part two. Plus. You've sent in some very funny talkbacks so far today. I know I've been tracking them. We'll get those to you on ninety seven to one. The freaking