We're listening to the Downbeat on ninety seven one The Freak. It's your friendly neighborhood Downbeat at six thirty seven in the morning. We are sixty ten every morning Monday through Friday. Ray here in ninety seven one The Freak, Spin and Skin in the middays speak Easy in the afternoons normally three headed monster here
with me, Danny, and Kevin Turner. Kevin's on vacation, so it's just myself, Mike'sroyd, Danny Baylis, JJ Jackson this morning, didn't use Morning News coming up at eight thirty Sports at seven, like half an hour from now. I think we're gonna talk about that dude who was banned for life from the NBA and is at the tip of the iceberg for gambling and sports and a lot of crap going on. Also, we'll discuss the bets that we're gonna make on the Mavericks because I'm heading to a magical land this
afternoon, which we'll get into just a second or two. I need to send you some money soon. Yeah you do. Yeah, if you want to make money, I do. I do. But as stated, we have no Kevin today, and I know our listeners are trying to fill that void. We had Kevin Gray on yesterday and we're going to have at least one Kevin on per day. It's a iHeartMedia policy, and I guess we claim to have one on the phone right now. Hello caller, you're live
on the radio and Dallas Fort Worth. Who's this Hi? This is Kevin Costner. Oh my god, Well Kevin, Hi, Kevin Costner, How are you doing well? Boys? How are you all doing good? What's happening? What can we do for you today? Well? I just wanted to call in one to meet your quote of Kevin's Yes, check two. I'm trying to get on to seven Kevins. Oh the upcoming feature film from Serroy Pictures. Yeah, you know with with yellow Stone out. I'm actually
on my way to work in a lumberyard Durant. His money's kind of tied right now, so help me out. Well, if you're working at a lumberyard and Durant, you must have really squandered away your life's work. Well that ex wife and her boy toy living out fact taking mostly. Hey, we currently do have Kevin Bacon lined up along with Kevin Klein, the Great Kevin Pollock Kevin. Do you have Kevin from the office. We don't, but we don't feel like that's a real Kevin. We do have Kevin James
and Kevin Smith is set to direct. I was going to try to book Kevin debrou from Quiet Riot, but I realized he'd died many years ago. I can take that spot, all right, I can take that. Thank ad. And Kevin Costner would be a big plus for us, between you and Kevin Hart. And to be honest, he's on all right. Well, thank you, Kevin Costner. Thanks for listening to our program regularly. Yeah, we appreciate the talkbacks. You listen on the on the iHeartRadio app
as well. Maybe we'll hear from him again at ninem thirty. Maybe I just gotta say, Danny, Yeah, Kevin, that Beans song you did. That's a slapper man, what he does. He's done one hundred oh Beans. It is a beautiful song. Thank you. It's one that I'm quite proud of. Beans. I love it. Okay, it's actually my alarm to wake up beans. God. All right, mister Kossner, thank you, good job, good luck acting today. Have a great day, boys, all right, move that lumber, Kevin, good look at the
lumberyard. There he goes. That dude's a nut. He's reminded us too why that started, and I've forgotten again. Kevin Kossner. Hey guysh uh, time for the most important thing in the world. Wake up your little sleepy head. It's time to get your stupid ass out of bed. About the most important thing in the most important thing in a lot of textures coming in. That's good. What says when you get home, your mom's gonna have your head set on playing Call of Duty. She's got diverted, hit
the wrong button, and she's just smoking kids yelling into the mic. Come back like Jesus want. I would love that. If you do want to participate in the nine o'clock segment, it's ask the downbeat, ask whatever you want. Everything is on the table, and we got some We've got a couple that we probably can't answer. But yeah, man, I think your mom would be more inclined to play that pirate game, though, boy,
I don't know that's as far as simplicity called. I mean, she would die instantly in call of duty every second, but she wouldn't get off the docks and see a beeves. She wouldn't have any chance at Booty on the High Seas. You should download your mom of an age appropriate friendly game for her. I think you can kind of like pac Man, right, sure, probably handle that. Yeah, not Super Mario. M But she hated Super Mario because we used to, you know, when we first got the
Nintendo, because it's noisy. I think we were just obsessed with it. It was like the very genesis of kids staring at their TV with a little controller in their hands, you know, and you're looking at and your parents looking at them and not understanding it. Hell to this day, I think parents are frustrated with at least right now. Now we're meshing parents who play and kids who play, but there are a ton of parents still it would
look at their kids just wasting time playing games, which I'm not. I don't really even here to argue against them, and I don't know that it's productive, but I love it. Man. I got out of the video game game as a kid, like pretty much out of high school. Never really went back to it until later on with the PS one, and I just missed the Donkey Kong, Super Mario Nintendo phenomenon that was outright Yeah, basically Nintendo dropped pretty much. It aligned perfectly. I remember I was in
I think fifth grade and Christov DeFalco is a badass name. He was the first one to get a Nintendo. Yeah, you have it in your house. I mean that math checks out, you know, for me, because when you were fifth grade, you were ten, and I would have been eighteen eighty six. Yeah, I would have been eighteen and leaving high school and it hit just as I left. That's crazy. And then yeah, for my birthday, I got a Nintendo. And boy, you never seen
someone quicker get to get something set up. And I think he did it. Come with Duck Hunt too. I think he came with Duck Hunt and the little Gun. I don't know if that was in the original, but yeah, man, we all attacked that thing. I've said it before, but there's one day my brother was playing Super Mario and got so mad. He was in my room too, on old as TV. You know, he got so mad and he died and he just and hawked a loogie on the screen, your brother, and walked out of my room. I think
he got banned. I think Bill banned him for a couple of weeks. I'll never met an idiot. Oh seriously, someonelike cash. Well this is what I get it. Well, we're still I was shocked when my mom got me and I guess for my little sister too, an Atari twenty six hundred because we were super ass poor, so that was kind of a big big box or a big ticket luxury item. And when we got that, I was what the hell? And on granted, we didn't get any games.
It was just the console and you had the one game that it came with, and it wasn't even an Atari. It was like the Sears Atari that they so at aarready made the twenty six hundred, but they would also license it through the Sears Christmas Catalog, so it wouldn't say Atari. It was rebranded, but it was the exact same system. They just put like a different logo and different name of it, and it was like the Sears
Game Center or something like that. Really yeah, and the game that I'm gonna make get these mixed up. The game that the twenty six hundred came with from Atari, I think it was called either Combat or Tankah and it was just two tanks and they would just fire a blip at each other. Was Combat was okay, if there's an equivalent named Tang. Yes, the game that they came with the console from the Sears catalog was called Tank,
and I remember not liking combats sucked. Yeah, it was hard and it sucked and it didn't do anything, but it's all you had, no you know, it was just kind of a glorified version of Pong. Yeah, basically the same principle. Did you ever have uh in this maybe because uh we had Pitfall? You know, oh, dude, pitfall was great? Not there yet? This is a pitfall was awesome. Did you ever have Kaboom? I don't remember Kaboom, you know had the regular joystick. Then
there's another one with a little knob on it. Yeah, that was the little paddle or like just a rotating Yeah, that's the one you would play like your Pong type games on or uh Tetra type games. Yeah, and Breakout, yeah, exact big one. But Kaboom was drop bombs and you were like a bucket of water and you had to like catch the bomb before they hit. Dude, that was before it's time because that was high speed
and accurate and you were flying around those board. Yeah that was fun, but that kind of gave me more incentive to work and make money so I could afford my own cartridges. And then it was Activision that was the you know, because you had your secondary market of developers that would make games that were compatible with the twenty six hundred. It wasn't you weren't just limited to Atari's roster, and Activision was this. They were the ones that made Pitfall.
They took their technology, took that eight bit or sixteen bit was up a big level. Because Pitfall felt compared to Combat or any of those first level basic games. Pitfall was like these wearing a hat. I'm on the alligator and you're grown down into the pit. The alligator just turn upside down. If you heard him, you had to jump on his head and his mouth was closed as basically Indiana Jones, right, yeah, pretty much we playing those games. Imagine kids. I'm sure that you can probably go on
YouTube and watch kids playing our first games. You can actually buy what is just an Atari twenty six hundred controller and it's got a USB or an HDMI or whatever plug. Yeah, you plug that into your TV and just in the controller and play its ever like thirty thousand games in it that are all whatever whatever was made for Atari twenty six hundred. Yeah, and you can just sit there and play them all day. I had one, was bored with it after like three days. Not interested, not interested anyway, I'm
sure you had something more important than that. It's far less important, and we don't need to hit the open. But the most important thing in the world is I mean, all the talk we did of the Sphere in Las Vegas getting completed and finally opening up and you two having this incredible run there, and tonight is the second band ever to set foot in the Sphere and
melt faces and rock and it is a band called Fish. Very polarizing band, I think, or I guess most people are just indifferent and poke fun at a band like Fish that they don't like are enjoy and I don't care. That's fine. I am a massive fan of the band Fish. I bet that most people that make fun of Fish or say that they hate them have never heard them. Yeah, yeah, and they just think they're they're
grateful, dead and they whatever. I don't really care. And frankly, the prices are for they're playing tonight, They're playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And I am on a plane this afternoon, right around one o'clock, and I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to the Friday night show and the Saturday night Saturday Night show at the Sphere to see Fish. Look fish guy, you know. And I don't feel like I'm a stereotypical fish dude. I mean it's smelly wookie hippies, which is not the case.
I mean a few blue eyed white devils. Half the people that in the Sphere are going to be lawyers and doctors. Fish fans were always smart, and they got older, and they got wealthy, and they now still love to go see fish. Can you tell me this? How many bands? I mean the tickets are over a thousand bucks each every day. That's way more than we're for you too. Maybe not for opening night, but I mean how many? How I abnormal? Is that over a thousand? I
mean I'm talking getting the building price. Now. Yeah, the Sphere has a couple obstructed seats, which I didn't know, But if you're in section one hundred towards the back, you will be under Section two hundred, thereby impeding your view of the sphere. It renders the upper part of the sphere pretty much useless to you. So those are seven eight hundred bucks. Yeah, but if you want to get any decent seat, it's twelve hundred bucks.
Best seats in the house are approaching two thousand dollars, and I just as a Fish fan, we don't want anyone else to get on board, you know, I don't think you're gonna but we don't want these ticket prices to go up anymore. But is how abnormal is that? I mean in this day and age, it's for a band that is as popular, a live band that's as popular as they are, that's probably that's probably not a bad price. Because I remember seeing McCartney for the first time ever and I
think it was was it American Airlines? It must have been, And just to get in the door there you're looking at three you were looking at three hundred and fifty dollars, and that was probably twenty years ago. So with inflation and everything, for a big name act that that is a top level touring band, I guarantee you that if McCartney came and did a little short residency at the Sphere, you could start at one thousand dollars. You think
so at least? Yeah, Yeah, I mean, for a band that most people listening wouldn't go out to their backyard and see you know what I mean. We're not talking about Paul McCartney on the public scale of musician quality, but as far as touring acts, they're always at the top fishes as far as income and how hard they work, and they're row dogs and they and people love them. They have diehard loyal fans that, yeah, well,
that have a disposable income, you know. So if you went and sell pal McCartney, you'd sit there, you'd enjoy it, you might get up, you might dance a little bit. But this is going to be whatever, seventeen thousand whatever. The capacity is people standing, dancing, partying, having a blast together. And that's one of the coolest things about a fish show. So I'm going to Friday and Saturday night show. So I'm
psyched, and it's four nights the sphere. Because the tickets sold so quickly, they asked them to do four more nights, like do you want to do the next weekend? And they debated it and they're like, look, we have two options. We can either do the same four shows that we're doing, you know, over the next four nights, do them again the next week, or because they want every one of these shows to be completely unique. They're not going to repeat one song. The visuals are going to
be all completely different. And they decline. They're like, we don't want to dilute what we're doing in these four days. Yeah, because they have wild s planned over the next four days. The Fish shows now are experiences. I mean they've done at MSG. They just they just did a fleet of clones where they got ten people that look like each of the members of Fish and dressed them the same and went out there holding instruments and trick the
fans into thinking it's them. Then they leave and another one shows up. They just do kind of games with the audience. You know. They did another one at MSG where all the lights were blue and they had drones of whales and dolphins and maybe turn the entire thing into an underwater aquarium. And that's at MSG. So at the sphere, no one knows what to expect until tonight. Until tonight, well and then tomorrow is gonna be completely diffletely.
That's awesome. They said there's something that ties in the four shows, like there is a theme, And I was like, are they gonna do like Jack Queen King Ace, you know in Vegas as the as a loose theme and then they'll sing a couple songs that touch on those themes, you know. But truth is, we don't know what the hell's gonna be. But anyway, when you think about the Sphere, all I think about is the visuals. Right, I'm gonna play at audio double J Sorry here you
guys plug in. I think of the visuals, like just stepping in this building, what it's going to look like, and that is definitely the most intriguing thing. But I wanted to play something for you, and it's an interview with Trey. It's only about a minute long where he's talking about the audio in the sphere, which I don't know anything about, okoy, and he's talking about the directional audio. And you tell me if this is even possible or if this makes sense for a band to pull off inside the sphere.
JJ, here we are the debut of the Sphere Sphere sound system. It wasn't surround, but it's directional. The Sphere sound system is hyperdirectional. It's so directional it's like pinpoints of sound and thousands and thousands of them, which is very different than a normal sound system. When they give you the demo, you can stand on an X and they'll play with song and the artist is singing in French, and then you step one foot to the side
and the artist is singing in Spanish. That's how directional it is. So our sound man or any soundman that comes in here, has to rearrange their concept. They have to be open minded and embrace the technology. And if you do so, the possibilities are endless. I'm very excited about what we figured out. We figured out ways to put instruments all over, like it's coming from every direction. It sounds really cool. I got to hear it
a couple of days ago. Okay, so you've been to an IMAX movie and you know at the very beginning when they kind of show off the sound of what IMAX is about. Yeah, you got the static and you hear it from what feels like twelve different points in the auditorium. It's so where the sound is isolated, and it's like you can if you were looking to the source of the sound, your head would go from the corner to the side, to this side, Oh, to the back, Oh, it's
up here now it's over here. That's kind of what he's talking about that they they have so many different speakers that are set up in all points of this sphere that they can point the sound waves to a specific area in the arena. It's almost like think of think of the audio as as like a laser to where it is beaming to a certain section, and they can move
those things too around, so you're gonna have swirling audio. It's going to be it's going to be sensory effing overload, is what it's going to be when you combine that with the visuals and what I hope and I'm sure they are. These guys are a million times smarter than me when it comes to production, or they have people that are is sometimes to me, the beauty of a great production is kind of like when it's what you don't do as opposed to what you do do. So if it's kitchen sink all the time,
it's going to drive you crazy, it's going to exhaust you. It's going to make you not know where to look or not know where to listen, or not know when to look or listen. You've got to create space to where there's lulls where kind of nothing's nothing's happening almost, or where it's just one singular visual and your head's not having to whip around like you're afraid of missing something. They'll know how to orchestrate that. I think it's going
to be phenomenal, but it is going to be a sensory exploration. So there's one hundred and sixty seven thousand speaker sound system in there. Yeah, so that would obviously facilitate that. But do you believe that. Can I stand right here and the singer singing in French? Yeah, and then I can move three feet to the left. That's what they've That's what's bill beautiful. But it's a different language because you are, Yeah, because it's targeted.
It's targeting, like you would have a channel of a vocal that's singing in French and a channel of another vocal singing in Spanish and depending on where you're standing. Yeah, I think, like I said, think of it as an audio laser. So if I'm shooting that laser at you right now, and it's a red laser, if you move out of that spot and move over here where a blue laser is pointing, and you get in front of that one, the red laser is no longer touching you, the blue
one is. Think of that as audio. They can do the same thing with sound waves now and be that precise and pinpoint them to be wherever they want them to be, and for you to experience whatever they want you to experience it I understand. I don't understand. Yeah, that seems, you know. And for a band like Fish that messes with their fans and has fun with their fans and does bits, so they're gonna project instruments all over
this room, yeah, bounce them off of Yeah, my god. And that another thing that will lead to is every person in that auditorium is going to have a different experience than quite possibly the person that's two feet from them. God, that's crazy. You're gonna have a great time. Yeah,
I cannot wait. I'm almost more excited to hear about your Sphere experience than I am this lavish lavish Pasha. Well, uh yeah, so Fish kicking off four straight nights at the Sphere tonight, and I'm heading there Friday and Saturday. I can't wait. They're also worried someone's gonna croak because they recommend you sit down during shows when you're up high at the sphere and these fish fans are not gonna sit down. They're going to be dancing and drunk and
drunk and other things. Machine worried about the big tumble tumble off the top rope. Let's hope all is well down there at the at the sphere, but I can't wait to see it all. Right, there you go. Coming up next, we got Sport at seven, I don't know, maybe talk about this dude who's banned for life and is this the beginning of gamble again in professional sports? That's next ninety