It's the Downbeat on ninety seven one, the Free Bosby celebrity chef who was on a one of the biggest reality TV shows in the world, coming in about thirty minutes tomorrow at nine ten. Farah Abraham Mike, that's right. What do you know about Farah Abray? I know backdoor teen mom and still and uh, I only because I googled her sixteen and pregnant, But I don't know anything else. I guess I will do a little bit of research yesday and to educate myself. But she's famous, right, it's a little
interesting. Yeah, she's well, you know, she was famous big time back in the day. And she's been back to the news lately for a social media bill that's passing over in Florida, and uh, she's been kind of wanting to almost spread awareness to this, like why are we policing high school? It's from being on social media. Why don't we police creepy adults
from being on social media? Like don't take away my daughter's sixteen year old Like, don't take away her phone because she's getting dms for foot picks from thirty four year old men. And it's an interesting take. We'll have her on just to add to the Chris Catan week, and celebrity chef Tim Klowers who joins the nine ten while are here Sarah Abraham tomorrow nine ten. If you do read her Wikipedia, it kind of reads out as reality television personality,
singer, pornographic artist, actress and writer. So our guests this week look like those that might be on an Entertainment Tonight show or an Eon Lion show. It is very eclectic bunch. Yeah, it's the paddle Brade here with everyone with everyone with everywhere sound a lot like somebody else. We might get to Dingo's Morning News. We're still working on this Ja Jason Kidd conversation because there's more to it. The national media went and buck wild with this
story. And we have got a caller or two way if you want to weigh in two and four eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven when we can call in her text in and go off of this because you know, we're just kind of kicking around at the back half of last segment, Like the way Jason kidds said all this stuff saying that Luca is better than Dirk might have just been a compliment to Luca, but if you want to read deeper into it, and some of the terminology he used, such as
for as long as I'm here makes you go things aren't great right now, and maybe he is on a short leash, maybe he doesn't make it through the end of the year and the breakup. Thought of this comparison, he might be the Avery Johnson to Luca's career. You know, Dirk had Don Nelson, he had Avery Johnson, which is short. He did go to the finals, it was short, and then he had Rick Carlisle, so legendary coach for a long long time, Avery Johnson and then legendary coach for
a long time. And maybe the same thing here with Luca. From carlisles into a short one with Kid and maybe a long term you know, maybe more more of a head coach that ends up being a legendary head coach. Maybe that's the way it goes, kind of the way it did with Dirk. What's Phil Jackson doing? You know, let's get Phil. But we can be wrong. Maybe it's speculation. It's like we're kind of just thinking
to much because it's possible. He is your Jason Kidd is the coacher for five, six, seven years, it does not feel like things are all good in hunky Dory right now, and maybe the best way to put out that fire, even if you're being honest, is to amplify Luca is the best he is an MJ conversation because I guarantee you Luca's approval, Well, I say guarantee. I think Luca's approval means ten times more than Mark Cuban's approval of Jason for his longevity here, I think so well. I think
Cuban's approval is dependent on Luca's approval, right. I think a lot of things are dependent on the way Luca feels about about his place in this world with the MAVs. And that's not different. That's like that in sports, like dude, it's it's even more so in basketball, it seems, But that's not This is not different than everywhere else. You would do whatever you wanted. If Michael Jordan hated Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson would have been there,
like it will have been handled, you know. So there's some Slovenian coach. Is that going too far? Maybe the old assistant, I mean Holger never jockey to be the head coach. No, I don't think Dirk ever even suggested it. Yeah, I know, maybe a similar comparison. Though. Let's let's reset real quick. Let's replay the audio for those of you that may or may not have heard it. You want to hear it again. This is Luca. I'm sorry, this is Jason Kidd discussing Luca
right here on the downbeat yesterday morning before I'll say it. You know, for as long as I'm here, he can't take this young man for granted, he's better than Dirk. He's in the in the in the atmosphere of MJ, the best to ever do at lebron Kobe. And so just to appreciate what this young man is doing to day he's at twenty four is something that Dallas has never seen and said this internally, he is better than Dirk.
He does things that Dirk could never do. And now it's you know, the opportunity of getting the right people around him to ultimately win a championship. You just said two times that Luca is better than Dirk. Dirk won a title and had been to two Do you feel comfortable saying that on a guy that has not made the even made the finals yet? Yeah, MJ is the same way MJ didn't make it into his thirties. This young man is twenty four and is breaking all the records that stand in front of him.
And he's a winner, and his ultimate goal is to win a championship, and he will get there and not just you know, win one, but he will win multiple on when it's all said and done, I want to say something real quick, and I bet you guys might agree with me. What what happened yesterday was a prime example, maybe even a microcosm,
of the way the sports teams in the media work. I think Jason Kidd knew exactly what he was going to say yesterday, he had a platform to say it, and I think that we were used for him to get that message out to Luca Mike. He mentioned earlier, Sometimes the message resonates louder when it said to somebody else and it's overheard by the person that it's directed
at, rather than it being directed personally to that person. I think it's some times those things can go in one air and out the other, especially when you're talking about maybe a more of a child slash parental relationship, which
in a way this kind of is. And we saw an opportunity knowing that the quotes were pretty you know, could be perceived as somewhat explosive, and we in turn use the quotes to possibly draw attention to what we do to get some pub Yeah, knowing that because there was no context provided and Jason Kidd was making a flat statement of a blanket flat statement about Luca being better than Dirk, that a lot of national pundits were going to run with this,
and they did, and the cycle is over. I don't expect Jason Kidd to get any follow up questions by the media tonight, do you. I think it's yeah, okay, fifty to fifty, But you know, the new cycle is typically twenty four hours, Especially on something like this. People say what they want to say about it, which we'll get to in a moment. We got some audio to play in the news last night, the articles were written, and I think today, other than maybe one quick
follow up, hey, do you still stand by this? Blah blah blah, you mentioned yesterday that you thought Luca's better than Dirk, and then I think it gives him an opportunity to provide the context that all of the talking heads have provided based on this, based on what he said yesterday. It's
a really interesting it's an interesting formula. It's an interesting dynamic. And you see this happen all the time and in the world that we live in now that everything is so divisive and everything's got to be subjective and debated and argued, and Jason Kidd's an idiot. Man, Dirk won a title. No, man, you're wrong. Luca is a better player than Dirk ever was. Right. Now, then you get all that, and then what's the next topic? All right, and then you move on. Yeah, and
it's forgotten. It's disposable. It's disposable content that people it with their short attention spans. It's just like, let me snack on this and spit it out. What's the next thing. There's not a lot to chew on here. There's really not when you when you think about this as as something that's real and meaningful. No, this is a formula and it happens every day with pretty much every damn story that you see people commenting on on Twitter,
on or wherever. This is PTI fodder before before we play the nation, I mean, what do you think, do you know my way off base? Is it too much? Pulling the curtain back. Well, no, but that's what almost every conversation about sports is and what most twenty four hour either news or sports networks, that's exactly what they are. It's why Jerry does quick topics to yell about and then move on. I guess I just
felt it interesting that that with a perfect example of that. It's a perfect example of that, the fact that we were directly involved in it and got to see it from from the birth until it's death, which will probably be later today if if the questions even brought up to kid, but you'll never hear about this again. Well, the funny thing is real quick. I'm sorry. Two years ago, Dirk made these exact comments. Yeah right, he's already been said. Dirk already said this about himself. Yeah, Jason
or Luca dncis is better than I ever was. He said that about on all these national shows. Almost the same conversations that they had yesterday afternoon happened two years ago. Yeah, like, oh, Dirk says Luke's better than him, same exact debates, probably some of them verbatim. Yeah, recirculate, recirculate. Okay, go ahead, let's up before we listen to the national audio, which might give us some fun drops too in the future. Let's go to a call her color JJ. Yeah, we got Giovanni from
Aubrey Jo. Good morning, g O, what's on your mind? Morning morning. I definitely think that it's a psychological thing at this point. I think that uh, Jason kid is a hanging on a thread and just kind of cradle and Luke at this point because Luca is the only one saving his job at this moment. There's no reason for us to be down seventy seven points in a half to the Orlando Magic. They have nobody to support Luca. Everybody already knows that lucas the All Star, like you all said,
Dirk has said in the past, this is all psychological game. He just doesn't want to lose his job at this point. And I believe that you do definitely need to surround Luca around some pieces because all these air balls. I mean, you had Hardy, who's obviously an upcoming All Star going off, well was it against the Magic? But tell me who else you had Tim Hardaway three for twelve, I trade him, trade a surround this guy
with some pieces so we can win a championship. At the point, at the point when Luca gets like, hey, you know what I'm done? Screw this. I think Jason Kidd that knows that Luca is pretty frustrated at the core that we have. And I don't just blame Jason Kidd. I blame, of course, everybody else that they need to fill pieces around him and what I've been. Thank you for your time, Joe, appreciate it. Thank you for the call. I just said real quick. They have
tried, like you trade for Porzingis, that is an attempt. You trade for Kyrie, that is an attempt. They don't know what they are yet they go win games in the playoffs. We're not talking about that, and we're probably not talking about Jason Kidd's security as a head coach. It is funny, though that Jason Kidd in that clip did say that Luca will win championships once we get people that can surround him, which is kind of an indictment on the current roster. He didn't say that we have it now.
He said once we get people to surround Luca, then then he'll win those multiple champions But showing him that you're trying is valuable. And with Porzingis and Kyrie, they are they are consistently trying to get massive All star level players in here, and they've done it twice. Now I think they can be a top four team in the West with healthy Kyrie Luca and healthy Derek Lively
because he's important. Now this thing, I think that's a top four team in the West, maybe five, maybe top five team in the West. I'm pushing a little bit. All right, Let's talk about how this all went down, because we knew we had a little something, and Kevin did great on trimming it down and making it digestible. I suppose putting the transcribing it and putting the words up on an image, you know, I mean, it's kya buddy. Kent went and did that for us because we don't
know how to do it right. It's basic for some people, but we have to do everything ourselves here. So you got someone named Kent to do it, who we sent money to and cost us money out of our pocket to get this done. But we knew it would be hot, and I don't know, pull the curtain and tell him how how do you get it from something that was just said on a radio station that definitely could use a whole lot more listeners to something that's being talked about worldwide. Well, we
have go to people that you send it to immediately. Tim McMahon is the ESPN contact. We've all known Tim McMahon for a long time. Uh. Pete Friedman at Channel eight w f a A sent it to him. Dallas News kind of has a site that you can send them stuff to and they kind of pick and choose. I was surprised they they did put something up and put our names and all that on their articles. I don't I never know if they will there, and they did. They did. Yeah who
wrote the article? Oh you know what? I don't know, but uh it was it was out you know, early this morning, late last night. They had something. So said, all the TV stations in town, all the outlets, but is it the magazine? Uh, put something up and yeah, before he before he gets TMZ ends up with it. They usually ended up with Tim McMahon wrote an article. That's the thing. They
like that, that's what spread it. Yes, because the second the ESPN dot Com article dropped, then it was on ABC News, it was on Sports Illustrated. Those are probably the biggest ones at that point. And then of course, uh, then you got your evening sports uh talk shows, You've got your pt I s, you've got Sports Center, things like that. And then later on at New York Post, I believe Nicky, you
sent me a New York Post article at like ten last night. I was surprised to see TMZ get it. I sent it to my buddy or who's at Fox, just because he's and he was like, we don't do a lot of NBA stuff, but I'll send it. And I was like, dah, I could see that getting on FS one and it might get there today, you know, but they're talking about Travis and Taylor, so like, you know, you never know over there, but I was. I
was shocked to see TMZ get it. That was kind of wild. But so that's that's basically trimming the audio down to where it's a quick cut email it out to him. You're texting these people going do you want this? And please credit the downbeat on ninety seven to one the freak, so which almost all of them did. Yeah, Okay, here is on pardon pardon the interruption with Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbond's all right on that, okay.
Former Monday Night football analyst Tony Gornheiser. Here's a twenty six second clip of them, and they do credit the freak. Let's go to the big finish. Let's still see a Kid told nineties seven point one the Freak. I'm sure you're all familiar with that. That Luca is better than Dirk Clause and it's in the act sphere of Michael, Jordan, Lebron and Kobe. I'll bet you agree with that. Not. I love Jason Kidd. He knows
what he's saying. He's a brilliant basketball mind over decades, but he hadn't played his first lick of defense Luca and Jason Kidd, who was a great defender, knows that. No, okay, okay, Will Bond's also very anti analytics. It's very old school. So I'm not surprised that. I'm sure you've heard of that. I mean, I like that they said the name dude first of that again, just so we have it. I've got
that. I thought I thought Michael Wilbon could have placed his no to end that clip, maybe earlier in the clip, so I did an edit myself. Let's go to the big finish less Joson Kid told ninety seven point one the freak. I'm sure you're all familiar with that. No, no, we are not. Do you think that the do you think that the serious sports talkers just see the freak and go, oh god, what is I
thought we were the game or the net. It is funny to be in this position because it was fun yesterday, like refreshing it and you can just google news. It is fun and I would just call Luca Dirk and Google news, check it on Twitter and watch it kind of blow up. And then I'm the guy because we always say breaking news, a trade in the NBA credited to shams, you know, or like they credit it kind of and I'm like, who cares who gets the credit? But in this case,
I'm like, come on, say the name baby. We need this, yeah, some juice, right, And then I read the article and make sure it was in there. I'm like, all right, good, thanks. Some of them actually put our names in there. It's kind of cool. So then PTI was on I Live like five thirty to six or five to five thirty, and then Sports Center takes over and this was their teas right off the bat. This is sports In with Hannah Store and Kevin
Na Gandhi. Well, welcome to sports everybody. We have a packed sixteen minutes for you tonight. We are live with the Lakers and the Knicks and the sound bite that you absolutely have to hear as a basketball Hall of Famer compares Luca DUTCHI Michael Jordan. Wow, oh that is joke. I mean the sound bite you absolutely that is also everything I hate about sports media. Now that but that's great. Oh, by the way, Hannah's Storm cool chick. Yeah, Houston super Bowl hung out, awesome, very nice.
Why are you winking I don't know, I'm winking out there was a coworker of ours at the time who probably should have had some harassment allegations. You have a kidding Obviously, she's a great talent, Kevin. So, as you do with any big story, you you tease it, you package it, you make people sit through stuff to get to the big story. Well, Hannah Storm brought on Tim Legler, Okay, noted NB a former Maverick, great three former sniper. That's right. Yeah, and she had Tim
on and this whole package is like three minutes long. I'm not going to play all of it. I'll play you just a little bit. So you can just kind of get a little bit of a flavor and then I'll tell you why the freak got snubbed a little bit by ESPN. Great, all right, last night, Tim Maverick star Luka Danchic scored forty five points and was just a rebound shy of a triple double in a two point win over
the Magic. We all know we had seventy three on Friday, nearly thirty five points a game this season, second only behind your ragning MVP Jo well Embi and his head coach had this comparison. You can't take this young man for granted. He's better than Derek. He's in the Okay, we've heard this audio. And typically when they play a cut that is from a source other than their own, and sometimes even if it is their own, they'll credit, oh, this was on the Tony Kornheiser Show or whatever it was.
They'll have a little girl, they'll have a picture of kid who's the one speaking. They may have like a little audio graphic showing that it's like a wavefile or a wiggly line or something, and then it'll credit in uh in text up above the top. They did this on PTI when they played
the clip, but they did not do this. They did not verbally mention the station, nor when they this during this entire three minutes, did they play did they show a graphic crediting uh the audio source from our show or this radio station, or not to mention any of us one, four, all threes. It's trace, trace, trace, This is negligence. I thought that was pretty uh interesting. I was a little kind of bummed, you know, because you look, Hell, I'm not unashamed to admit,
and Mike you said it. It's fun. It's cool to get some juice, it's cool to see something that you were involved in kind of blow up and go viral. It doesn't happen every day. So if you're not going to enjoy those moments a little bit, then why the hell are you doing this? And we can downplay it all we want, So, yeah, you know news cycle twenty four hours and which I already did, and this
isn't really that big of a deal. But look, you may, you may piss on the Grammys all you want, but if you're an artist and you win one, it feels probably pretty damn guess and full pull the curtain. We need it. Yeah, at our previous place, it might have only been the Hey cool, that was our interview today because let's face it, we need a lot of a lot of people in the world now. Don't go seeking out good content. They have to be told that it's good.
It has to be they have to be told that it's reputable. And if they see that up there, oh my god, the freak was on ESPN, they must be good. Right, maybe I'll listen. And so when we were hoping for a little credit from the big brother, you know, National ESPN on Sports Center, which is you know, it's still relevant. I guess we were on NBA today though, and then they did the whole thing, but our names up there and stuff. That was cool.
I think our bosses were very happy with the way yesterday went. Yeah, that was it was really fun. We crawled out of the dokhouse yesterday. Boys. Welcome back to freedom. They called it a stay of execution. Let's go snack on our dry food. All right, Well, if we have anything else on that, we'll get to it here in a little bit. Well, that was brought to you by Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen. Well, Parkway, We're gonna have a little miniature version of Dingy's Morning News.
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