You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety seven the Freak. All right, here we go Friday morning. I hope everyone's doing great. Be safe on your way to work today. You're gonna have a wet one one hundred chance of rain at ten am. Should die off pretty soon though. It's gonna have a little storm system kind of moving in this morning with lots of rain and then filter off and have a setup for a for a fun weekend. Hopefully you got big plans. A couple of things to watch this weekend? Uh
okay, Polyphonics Free Holiday Extravaganza tonight and tomorrow night at the Majestic. Also, if you go see our friend Paul Vargeese Sunday at Teks in Addison, He's got to show at seven right after Cowboys and Bills, So go check that out if you want to. Sure call Ture life. A lot of holiday fun filled activities are in store for you. keV oh like the Holiday Extravaganza and Paul Vargeese comedy. What more do you want holiday comedy from?
In parts, I've been jamming out that new Polyphonic Spree record. I finished the Rick Rubin podcast yesterday. Did you finish that. Yes, on the way to work this morning. Did what did you have a so good? We're going to get to sports real quick. I did want to talk to Danny about something because Danny and I are two guys from the country, just sitting around talking about the country. As Danny grew up in Knox City, I grew up in Olney. What's about How far is that for? About
sixty miles from each other? Probably? Yeah? Probably? How close are you to Seymour about thirty boy, it's probably thirty, but it feels like forty minutes. Yeah, yeah, and Seymour's thirty five from NOx City? You were about an hour fifteen. Maybe we grew up an hour well, I mean you were a fetus, yeah sure, yeah, yeah, but I was born in eighty eight. I'd already left when you were born. Yeah, but yeah, we still have the same reference points. I grew
up near your parents. Did you have a uh? When? When this podcast tim to latter to the Polyphonic Spree with Rick Rubin, legendary music producer and Beastie Boys slayer. You name it jay Z System of a Down. I mean it goes on and on and on and uh did you have a similar experience to getting saved in church. Yes, very much so. I mean when Tim said that, I was like almost petrified. How similar? Mind was? Yeah, do you want to talk about that for two seconds?
Yeah, well we can. Let's do it real quick. Okay. So there's a there's a part in the Tim DeLaughter podcast with Rick Rubin where Tim, because I think Rick acts, asks him, you know, because Rick Rubin loves Polyphonics Free and he's emotionally affected by their music. He's been a fan for twenty plus years. And he asks Tim, are you a spiritual person? You know, because he's wondering where these songs come from? Does it come from some you know, guiding spirit that moves within you?
Stuff sounds churchy sometimes, and Tim says, well, you know, I did grow up in the church per se. His grandfather was a pastor and his mom was kind of always searching for some type of spiritual answers and ended up going to this one church, a Church of Christ I believe, and said that, you know, you kind of feel that pressure at the end of the sermon where they do the invitation and all your friends are getting saved,
and you feel that I guess I'll do it too. And the next thing you know, you're you're in a room after the service with you know, all these other kids and they're little kids, like eleven years old, you know, making these decisions. And there's a guy in there, a preacher or a deacon or whomever, you know, basically setting you up for indoctrination. And uh. And the guy the priest comes around and he like puts his hand on Tim and and Tim said that there were other people in
the room that were like speaking in tongues. So Tim just starts going like so intimidated, he didn't need to do she want to get out of it, faking it to get out of it. Yeah, And as he's doing this the priest. The priest is like, ah, yes, and he starts telling the group that he's translating what Tim is saying into English, I guess. And Tim's like, oh, man, I was just making this
up because I wanted to get the hell out of here. And he said it just kind of like absolutely crushed him and his disillusionment with that whole world. I didn't have the yet place of the you know, the pastor touching me and doing the you know, yeah, but the peer pressure of all your friends are going to do it, so you should go do it. Mm hm, and the music and they get you and they break you down and you're just yeah, I was under the age of ten. Yeah,
you know, I think I was thirteen. And by the way, that doesn't mean I don't believe, because I've been pretty open about jo where I'm at. I don't know what I believe or don't believe. Yeah, I'm not sure, and I don't think anybody can say that what they believe is true to any degree of certainty. You know, you just don't know. It's a roll of the dice and and those that do cool. Yeah, dude, absolutely always felt that way. Anyway. Yeah, I had a
similar experience as well. Or you went down to the front and I was the last man standing in the in the in the congregation that hadn't been saved, and there's all my friends up there, and like, oh man, I guess I'll go. And you know, went down the saved pretty good, eyes out for a walk and I that hit me and I was just like, dude, that podcast is intense for two calm guys just talking.
Yeah, it was great. As one of the guys starts crying, and you know, how can you really trust the decision making of an under undeveloped or underdeveloped brain of an eleven year old? Yeah, well do they they don't know what they're doing or in some cases eight and nine. Sure, that's It's a lot enough of that. Let's do sports. That's good and now Sports at seven quarts of seven, brought to you today by the new BBC show Is This Meat? Is it a baseball bat or a sausage roll?
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But that would have been interesting to have Angus hosting a meat show. We will move on to Sports English Young with pride and integrity as we'll do. Do you You probably didn't because of BALLEI you played it and getting MAVs. I followed it on my sports app, my CBS sports Line app on my phone, so I was checking in every few minutes to see how things were going, and it looked pretty good. Half Man Luca was posting big numbers. They were up by one. I check in in the middle of the
third quarter. Luca's up to like thirty five. MAVs are I think down by two? And then I checked back in and they were down by ten, and I think it just kind of never never went back in their favor at that point. So now I didn't get to watch it, unfortunately,
but I did keep up. I mean last night's game, first of all, still not full strength with Kyrie not ready to go yet after he gets stepped on, you know, last week on his foot and get rolled up on a little bit, so a little you know, could use a little more offense there against the number one defense in the league in Minnesota, who's the number one team in the Western Conference. Also kind of comes down to Mavericks didn't shoot the three pointer well last night, and yeah, so every
time that happens, they're gonna lose. Absolutely. I saw Timmy Hardaway's line somewhere in the middle of the third and he was like something like zero for six from three. Yeah, and it was just, you know, look, Minnesota gets credit because they're good, first of all, and that's I think kind of the story is that they're really good and they're playing like they traded for Rudy Gobert last year to play alongside Karl Anthony Towns, and they
got another guy who's big named nas Reed. My buddy Lucia has issued a no fly zone for the city of Dallas from nas Reed. Na Read went seven of eleven from three last night, and he's like a big, like six foot eleven guy. I mean, nas Reed is a good player, but he and a type of guy who's normally go out and knock down over five threes a game. He hit seven threes. The MAVs were were really bad from three last night outside of ExHAM, who was two for three.
Grant Williams one of seven did sweet Sex. I'm not get a lot of time. Yeah, twenty eight minutes, okay, fourteen points, but hardaway, you know, thirty one minutes, ten points and he was oh of seven to three. He's just like e it's gonna be bad night if he's not if he's not rolling. Luca did what he could thirty nine points, thirteen assists, the usual from Luca, but he didn't hit the trip dub
though. Did he no six rebounds? Yeah, he could have got the triple double if you can't turnovers as he had eight, he was getting ptty close to that. Again, what a good defense, resolute, shorthanded story of the night for me. We're going back to something that we've talked about a lot. Luca got a technical in the first quarter, and I think that puts him up to eight on the year. I think now sixteen is when you get the suspension. He's already got half of his suspension total and
you're not even really close to the mid season point. Maybe it's seven. I'm not sure if counting us name was seven or eight either way. So they do this report at the end of the game with the crew chief of the crew so this is Tim Cato, the athletic with crew chief Curtis Blair. Question, what did Luca say that cause the first quarter technical to be
called? Blair said, after a note called, Luca overtly gestures by hitting his hand multiple times while yelling call the foul and aggressively walking towards the official before I answer. The second question that was asked is that, Okay, no, it's not you shouldn't get technical for that, right. I don't know. I don't think it's okay what Luca did, because Luca needs to
know better. He's been in this league long enough. He knows what the standard is when it comes to technicals, especially for him, because I do think that they I think the criteria is customized to the specific to specific players. I don't think it's a cut and dried, uh protocol, you know, I think it's all I think they issue technicals on a sliding scale, and Luca needs to know where he is. He should know by now and No, you can't scream at an official and pound your fist into your hand
and approach them yelling call the foul. Yeah, I agree, and I I think there's a lot of message like, Okay, we've got a Reugh problem because he did, he did get fouled. Lebron doesn't do that. He doesn't do it a lot. Not like that though, not like that. Uh, it's every night, and it's been really every night since Luca's been in the league. And this is where I'm like, you just have to know. I think they're sick of him. I agree. I think they don't. I think they will get along fun, but I think there
it's like it can probably different with each crew chief too. Yes, but if a crew chief, do you hang out together for the end, like, look, it gives me some of that stuff. These dreffs could be having a bad night too. You know whatever, If he gives me that stuff early, we were gonna put a stop to it. Luca knows every damn official in this league by name. Yeah, He's got rapport with all of them. He knows their tendencies, he knows what he can and can't
get away with. Yet he just can't help himself. I have no problem with them teeing him up. He is gonna have to effing learn, man. There there are ways to work the officials and remain technical free. And it's time in this kid's career that he gets over that hump, you know, because this is unacceptable. I think we're to a point now where I mean, there's a part of me that's like, dude, yes, refs, suck it up and get yelled at a little bit, and don't you
know, don't call a soft ass technical on a normal player. This is different the superstar thing. It's basically that part of Luca's game as kind of out the window now, because I think this reputation follows you, and it's why when Draymond Green anything happens, that's violence, whether it's intentional or not. You have to go. We gotta suspend you, dude. We just can't. You don't have a leg to stand on anymore. So that's all
right now. The follow up question was had Lucas said anything prior to that technical that contributed to it being called? The crew chief says no, he did not, So Luca had not said anything. He gets fouled and just I mean, did he did get hacked. I'm not I'm not like that is very clear that it was right on the forearm, a big one. It hurts, okay, and Lucat walks to him basically paper scissor Rock won two shoots through it and clapping. He called the foul walking at him and
the immediately and this is a quick The ref very quickly. Didn't think twice. So that tells me that it was in the ref's head. If Luca gives me an s tonight, he's getting it early. And that forced Luca had kind of calmed down because he wanted to bitch about a couple of calls in the second half, and you can tell him kind of pull back as he was about to like go talk to the ref. Hey, this is
where you're at. He's he's earned this, he's earned this. He's also he earns a lot of the calls he gets too by being a superstar. But this is like, it was a clear foul. I was watching, I was like, oh my god, call the fowl. But and then you immediately go don't look a stop like someone getting from one of him. That's why I said the other day, you get to the ref because he
can't help appeal to your head coach and let him handle it. Yeah, I just I know Jason Kidd's not the most demonstrative head coach, and he's not somebody that you know is gonna be running his mouth a lot at officials. But I mean, if it was that blatant of a foul, go to your coach and to ask him to review the damn play, Yeah, which you know they can. They don't want to burn him like early in the first quarter. You don't want to burn your challenge in case things that
that. I get it, But I just I don't know, man, this is to a point where I just I want to get Luca's back here. The dude got fouled. The refs should be a little better, right, Yeah, but dude, you just if some guy who doesn't ever get technicals does that, they're probably fine. These rests are talking about it before the game. Luca is gonna be in our ass tonight. We're gonna have to call a foul on him. Early. I could have worded that better
and didn't well apologize. Well, okay, if Luca gets fouled and walks by the ref on the way back, you know to play defense and has his hands up to the ref and goes, come on, man, he ain't getting he ain't getting teed up for that. This is this is blatant. Yeah, it's blaytant. It is. He's showing up the ref. He's being he's showing aggression. Two signs of aggression, punching his hand with his fist and walking towards the ref. And I don't even know. Maybe
it's possible that the the crew chief left out any type of profanity. I would assume that there wasn't. He would may have said so, yeah, I don't think there was. But dude, Luca, watching it, you can see him go cold the full. He's got to do better. He's got to manage his temper and his emotions. He's got to get on top of that. There are ways you can you can work those referees. You can be passive aggressive with them. You can be a smart ass with them.
You can make jokes with them, maybe like wonderful call Bill. Yeah, yeah, exactly, look at this. You see that. Yeah, but that is just that's that's petulant. That is childish. That's a baby part of it. Two, when you drive to the rim as much as Luca does, You're gonna take on more hits and pain will cause outrage more than anything, right, I mean, that's true. So, I mean I think there is an element of that that we need to consider as guys
who are sitting and talking without getting hacked on the forearm. And he's young, but geez, he's still figuring that, he's still figuring things out. You know. We take for granted that he's still a kid, you know, but also he's a six year veteran too. And the point is if you end up hurting your team because you have to do a suspension later in the year in the West, where you could win a game and you could be the three seed and lose a game and be the seventh seed, it's
no only plaid. Twenty four games and fifteen and nine. Good start by the way through twenty four games, but geez, we need you, dude. Michael Parsons speaks out about an NFL officiating. He said yesterday, the problem see with officiating is I think it becomes a lot more ego than it is them actually wanting to call it. People say, when you come over and talk to a ref, he's gonna want to do his job right, But in my eyes, why would I have to talk to you any kind
of way if you just did your job the first time? He said he wants to lead to add more officials or give coaches the ability to challenge plays on which they believe a penalty should have been called. I do not want that will never finish a game. Coach are allowed to challenge plays where they think a penalty should have been called. That were really pissed Troy Aikman off. Oh my god, he was so ready to go home. Just call
the play. Just think if there's a giant stack of meatball sitting next to him and he has to wait for a coach to challenge a penalty that wouldn't called. Is they're just getting cold? I mean, that was a decent game Monday night of two garbage teams, but it was like a close game. Like my Michaels and Kirk Herbstreek do have something to bitch about? Is on Thursday Night football? Last night? It was sixty three to fourteen or whatever the score was. It was forty two to nothing at halftime. The
Raiders over the Chargers. The Chargers, the hell did they did? They resurrect Cliff Branch and the Snake. You get those guys back together. Last night? What the hell they had? Chargers still like eleven touchdowns or something. The Chargers have quit on their team and we saw it live on National TV last night. Why oh god, I swing over there for any of that. Brandon Staley is going to lose his job probably today. Kellen Moore.
I don't know how much you put on in Brandon Staley's defensive head coach, and that defense finishes in the twenties every year. Kellen Moore's outfensive coordinator. He might get the job for five games, but not a good look for him. Also, Justin Herbert's out for the year. Heard his finger. He's gone. But oh, Chargers are a mess. What's the record? Five and nine? Okay? So and they quit? So E. This week we have Josh Allen. He's only been sacked eighteen times this year,
which is tied for the fewest in the league with Mahomes. What did MIKEA say about Josh? Do you have that quote? And yeah, so he's talking about how he respects him because he was on Madden, the cover of Madden and these Beach But he also said I'll just read the quote from the article. Parson's respect level for Alan is strong. He even joked at the two had attended the same college, he wouldn't like him because the quarterback
is trying to get everyone a little tipsy. Josh reminds me of a lot of that one get okay hold on, Parsons said, smiling, Josh reminds me a lot of that one crazy guy at the frat, which we had the article for the other day where they said Josh Allen is the guy who likes to make wiener jokes and just run into people. He's the guy most likely to give you a ball tap. Yeah, God, dude, don't
hit me in the nuts. We all know what it hurts. You'll work with people like that for the years, who just like, I'm tapping on the nuts. What are you doing? He spent his college down time on the couch smoking doobies, watching wild boys. Why are those guys though always physical, they always just want to get you and grab you by the neck. Haven't touch me. Hated those guys. Hated them. Touch guy most
likely to just polish pants down for no reason. The guy in the locker room shower who would go, look, I tucked it, you know. Yes, yes, they're weird, man, nothing worse. I don't do that. Yeah, we're nasty, as you know, because the boys are nasty. There's some bad apples, but JJ, there's some bad apples that spoiled the bunch. It starts at a young age that we don't make every woman out to be casey, Anthony. You can't broadbrush everything here, Anthony,
How do we get way over there? All women? I mean, well, there we go. There's your sports. I cannot wait for Cowboys bills and we'll be sight around for eight o'clock. You're scorching hot predictions, hotter than usual, I'll say, for the first time in about a month. I'm feeling good about mine. So we have that'll be good for you. Coming up next? Oh man, I'm predicting danger in Collin County plus burning vehicle at a Walmart. What happened next time? Ninety seven to one. The free