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Should The Cowboys Make a Coaching Change?

Jan 15, 202423 min
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The guys discuss whether or not the Cowboys will make a change

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Through your song again, macau Okay, so we're back in. Latest in the weather is it's you know, probably a little slick on your morning commute if you're going to work today, although I'm seeing people zooming down the tollway from here, but there's been a you know a little bit of snow. We had meteorologist Kevin Smith from NBC five on in the seven thirty segment and he was like, Dude, I think tomorrow is gonna be the day of

just kind of school closings and rough traffic things like that. Said is gonna stay in the teens. So you look out on the tollway right now, and there's no snow on it because all of the tires and the friction and the heat of the automobiles has melted at all. Yeah, but when that traffic goes away overnight, it's not as much. What's gonna happen, especially on those overpasses freezing ice. Oh yeah, and we're gonna be you know,

being you know, comedy first responders. We're up before everybody. We're gonna be the first ones to hit those roads in the morning. Yeah, we'll give you a report. Yeah, I'm gonna leave a little early tomorrow. I think yah, just in case, so where you will in thirty minutes give you a chance to win MAVs tickets. The number UH is we're opening the phones for you. This houn just wake up call here two one

four eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven to one. Uh. If you want a chance for MAVs tickets, I would say nine thirty would be your time to go ahead and call and you'll try to get on board and you'll pick one of us. We will emmy emmy preview for tonight. But if you want to weigh in and you're pissed about what's happening from a coaching situation with the Cowboys, this would be your time. And if you want to twist off or maybe you want to defend Mike McCarthy, Dan quinn

and the gang, go ahead. Two one four eight one seven seven eight seven. I'm gonna replay the audio too. I want to hear from Yeah deafender, Yeah, yeah, people like Greg the leg Well this is we'll played a minute to go for you, and we'll hear from Jason Garrett in a second Jerry as well. But here's Greg Old on yesterday's Fox broadcast on what the Cowboys should do. I always think an interesting test anytime there's these conversations. And again I'm going to be the first to go on record,

I think the conversation about replacing Mike McCarthy is crazy. First of all, Again, I know a lot of people came at us for even discussing that last Tuesday if they lose. And the reason I disagree with Greg thoroughly here that it's not crazy, and that's with coworkers and listeners saying I can't believe you are talking about that, is because Jerry allowed this to be a topic.

He had a chance to smash it and say Mike McCarthy's my coach next year, and he doesn't do it, despite signing these people to five year deals. And he doesn't do it, and he could have. And that's why I think there is a little more, a little less wiggle room than usual. Here. We've seen a guy not want to make coaching changes for a lot of it for a long time, giving Garrett a lot of extra rope. So here's the rest of the olden clip to talk. So I'm

let me just preface it by saying that. But I always think the best exercise is if you let go your coach, would anyone else hire him? I think the answer Mike McCarthy is clear. I think teams would jump over themselves to hire him to have this level of consistent success. So if the answer that question is yes, that answers, come on, does it with that logic? I mean, then for you to fire your coach, you would have to be convinced that if you did fire him, that he would

never work again. That is the stupidest thing that I've ever heard him say. And he's usually a pretty I don't know. I think he's a pretty even keeled, measured dude when it comes to talking football, for sure. But that is the dumbest logic that I've ever heard in my life. Well, do you guys think that if McCarthy's fired tomorrow he will be immediately doing interviews and likely be the head coach at one of the eight current available head

coaching or seven, I guess with the Patriots if he wants to. I think there's enough desperate franchises who have not had any stability who would love to have him. Washington, Carolina. I think that I think he makes more sense for it. I think it makes sense more sense for a team like that than he ever made sense for the Cowboys. Who is can pay anyone whatever? And dude, McCarthy was not hired. He didn't take a year

off from football and sit in the barn. That was a puff piece by Tom Pellisero of the NFL Network, who used to cover the Packers in Green Bay. He had a relationship with McCarthy. McCarthy did the thing I watch every single game, and then he lied about it in his opening press conference. Okay, and Steven did the awkward laugh. It was all a puff piece by McCarthy. Was not hired. He was the Jets chose Adam Gase over him, and then he had his crazy eyes Taco Tuesday press conference.

You remember that meme the Bills went with and what was his name, Freddy Kitchens I think was the coach they went with at the time, like no one wanted McCarthy then. Now there wasn't as many head coach openings. Okay, Now the year after that, a few more openings come up. I think we're right at this time, though, this is where I go. You can't go backwards. Jerry can't go backwards. He doesn't like that, and he didn't have salacious names like this Jim Harball, Bill Belichick, And

I am not telling you those guys are upgrades. I don't know, I truly don't and what comes with that personnel control? And I think you you do a pretty good job of drafting players the Patriots don't. I don't know that I trust Jim Harball to come here, and if you give him a lot of Satan personnel like I don't know if that's gonna go well. So I'm not telling you this is an upgrade. I don't know what the answer is. I wish I did. McCarthy's good enough to get you to the

playoffs. We know that Dak's good enough to get you the playoffs. We know that another team absolutely would want McCarthy about ten millions about what he's making his last year of his five year contract. That you've never had to give him five years in the first place. But that's how you do business here, and that's how we do things here. We've always done it this way. So here's five years done terrible. You should have done three or four.

Either way. Belichick's gonna command twenty five million? Is Jerry willing to eat thirty five million to make this happen, because that's how much that equation goes, is it, Jim Harball? Jim Harball command what twenty million? Maybe there's already talked that Lions off its coordinator Ben Johnson will get fifteen. Now, none of that counts on the salary cap, so maybe Jerry doesn't care about that stuff. Yeah, I don't think the money matters to Jerry

right now, between fifteen or twenty five million for the coach. Look, I can't believe we're saying this, and I am try to try to be level headed. And three straight twelve win seasons is lovely, and thirty NFL teams would dream. Hell, all including us in the Garrett era, would

dream of three straight twelve win seasons. Today is a hard day to have this discussion because if you just take yourself out of this for a moment, the emotions of yesterday and think you've got three straight twelve win seasons and two NFC championships, that's good. This is a well coached team that's consistent. But we're not. We're today and yesterday happened, and I absolutely think they should fire Mike McCarthy. And I'm levelheaded dude. Honestly, like I try

to always be fair, and I'm not a passionate Cowboy fan either. I think they should fire Mike McCarthy and I think they should be on the phone with Bill Belichick right now. I kind of agree, and I'm not saying like I think that is what this team should do. Yeah, you have probably the greatest coach, modern coach in NFL history just sitting there. You have a perfect scenario of opportunity. Now, I would think with Belichick,

and I know he's got all the leverage. Still you tell him we have a man named Will McLay who we love and trust as far as player evaluation is. The buck will not stop with you on player evaluation. So if that's a deal breaker or a non starter, fine, then it's not gonna work. Because Bill Belichick is not drafted good players the last few years. And everyone's quick to say, all right, well fine, look at him without Tom Brady. Look what he's done the last few years. They're at

least offensively. Roster is garbage. How did they win four games this year? I almost applaud them for that, and I looked at their depth chart and like, I hate to do this, but and I'm not cowboys are loaded. Cowboys have great players everywhere, but they kind of do, especially compared to the damn Patriots. Bailey Zappi, Mac Jones, Dak Prescott is better than them, Ezekiel Elliott. You better think that your running backs better than them. And they had what Ramandra Steven said, he got hurt.

I mean, you could argue that he's better than Paulard, but fine. Devonte Parker to Mario Davis, Mario Mario Douglas. Douglas, Yeah, who had zero touchdowns on the season, and that's your receiving corps. We're better there, O line, we're better. I mean, I think a fourth rounder is there highest drafted offensive line right now? And you're gonna say, oh, their offense sucks, They're offense sucks. You get Bill Belichick, this crew, it's better. And I know he's a defensive dude, but

still, I don't know how you don't really consider this. And I really wonder what the Star offices look like today, or how that video call works or if Jerry's like, hey, we're doing the get together today and who makes these decisions? But dude, it should happen. It should happen, they should fire him and do it. Bill would be interested too. I do believe that. And I know people say Bill didn't want to put up with a lot of stuff done he does with Robert Kraft. Robert Craft wasn't

staying out of it. He was involved a little bit. One thing I think where you can hedge with Bill's say, look, Will mcclay's still going to sit in the middle of that triangle coaches, scouting and the front office. Okay, up at the top of the period, and he's just sitting in the triangle, in the middle of it, making the calls, taking all the information and piecing it together. It doesn't mean coaches don't get their players every now and then. Dan quinn got his player. Yeah he got

Mazzie Smith. No, you still got a vote. Mike McCarthy got his player, he got Luke schoon Maker like it all kind of ends up that way. And it was like that way when Marinelli was here. We're not saying stay out of the room when we have this discussion. Highly evolved, but you're not just the one dude buying the grocery. Yes, and I think he might be in on that, I really do, especially the money, and he may go, look, they haven't done it in thirty years.

I'll be the one that does it. And speaking of thirty years, this story's popping up a lot is the alleged meeting between Jerry Jones and Bill Belichick from thirty years ago, essentially, which I do think is kind of interesting. So Jerry Jones recounted this a couple of years back, and he said he met Belichick by chance in nineteen ninety five at a ski resort in Colorado where Belichick had just been fired as the Cleveland coach, and they had

a conversation. He's like, I couldn't tell who he was, and then he raised his goggles up and know his Bill he no longer had a job. He'd been with Cleveland. They let him go, and Jones says, Belichick said, I can coach if you ever get an opportunity. Don't forget about me. And Jerry Jones has admitted only a couple of years ago that

he's thought about that conversation a whole lot of times in his life. I also think it's funny that Belichick is like, remembered it a little differently, but he's like, but I do remember We're in snow mass and JayR He's there with a big white jacket and a giant blue star on it. I'm just picturing Jerry going skiing dress as a Arctic cowboy. Well, hey, do you think what one franchise gave Ezekiel Elliott a chance? Yeah? The story back in June was that Bill reached out to Steven and said he got

anything left. I mean, that's the story. I don't know if it's true or not, but I think they have a respectful relationship too. Through all these years and being in some of the same places. I think this is not crazy. This is and it was kind of crazy a week ago. Maybe you know what might happen. The Eagles might lose tonight and Sirianni might get fired and we might be doing exactly what we did with whoever the

hell that linebacker was. It was a deciding between the Cowboys and Eagles, and next week at this time, we might be doing the Oh my god, Belichicks, coulda choose me the Cowboys and Eagles? Yeah, that could be happening. You're right, And I don't know if this is as important, but I think to Jerry it's very important. But as a calming settling the fan base, pr move acting now like today or tomorrow, and firing McCarthy and hiring Belichick, all of this conjecture and and bluster that's going on

on Twitter in Cowboy Nation, that is quelled pretty freaking quick. We got something new to talk about, exactly, You got something new to talk about, and it gets that mindset change that we're not just gonna repeat this again next year. We have the same players, but with this kind of leadership.

And I think this goes in hand in hand with that fiery ass speech that Jimmy made at halftime, because we all sat here looking at each other going if that was going on at halftime, if they have that kind of leadership of or that kind of personality driving this team rather than mumblemouth ding dong running the thing, maybe maybe you approach that game with a little more intensity and take it a little more seriously than the Cowboys did, and it might

change the damn culture around here a little bit. To have a hard ass. Maybe that's what this thing needs. Maybe they've been Mike McCarthy doesn't come off as a hard ass at all, and I think Dan Quinn is walking no matter what so I think we can eliminate that that he's just gonna slide over and be the head coach. I think he watched that game yesterday from that booth and said, yep, I'm out. How has that gone this

quickly? Though, because we thought last week there's a decent chance that if this thing goes south, McCarthy gets can and they slide Quinn over, which is, you know, the prince that was promised for the last couple of years. Yeah, but now nobody wants that here. Well, the defense was the worst part of the team gat up forty eight points. Dude, Yeah, dan Quinn can't just slide. I mean that taste is in everybody's mouth. I'm just talking about as a calming agent for Cowboy Nation. Belichick

is the answer. It's weird. He may answer more questions than just that the Jay Glazer gets. Maybe it's just because he's his affiliation with UFC and all that for fighting and all that stuff. But he's very respected and knows this stuff, and yesterday he was saying dan quin will still be, yeah, like one of the hottest head coaching names. So maybe maybe it's something to consider and you're retooling some of the defensive responsibilities with him moving to head

coach. I don't know. Let's go before I play this, garretself. Let's go to Doug. Doug is calling in. Doug wants to weigh in. Don't hear what the Cowboys? Can't that say? Hi, Doug? How's it going fine? Hey? I just one thing. God, I don't think this is as difficult to figure out as people are making it out to be. They haven't won a Super Bowl since nineteen ninety five, and they've run how many coaches through that place? They've had great players? What's

the common denominator? Jerry Jones? Jerry Jones is the problem. But that ain't changing, Doug. Hold on a second, I'm gonna catch up for one second. Staying with me that that's not changing. We can't like that's we're just gonna end up doing, you know, playing with each other. There's Wieners here, hello, because like that's not changing. So that's here until he's dead. That is here and then his son will get it.

So what else? Yeah, no argument, I mean, I'm just I'm just saying it's what thirty five years now, So I mean, it's not gonna change until that changes because he's not going off. Any owner that feels like he needs to get on TV in front of the camera and have his own radio show undermines any coach that's going to coach at that point. I also tell you this, well, I agree Jerry is not as involved as he has been. He is not like, but I will say that the

culture of the Patriots fellows years was Bill Belichick. It wasn't the ownership. And maybe he's just this super nova that demands it. I don't know if one year into being the Cowboys coach he can supersede the culture that Jerry Jones has created over thirty years, or if he's just a fish out of water. Yeah, you know, like, I don't know that Bill Belichick walks

in here and the culture changes. And I think you have the Devin mccordy audio, Yeah, because I actually like that where it was real simple. Didn't you just say that would never have happened if Bill Belichick's your coach. A team does not walk onto a playoff field, especially a home run, in perfect conditions, ill prepared and seeming like they don't belong there. That

doesn't happen under Belichick. It's my favorite clip of body of all this stuff is you're gonna hear Garrett first, and Garrett's going to explain what the first forty eight hours are like. Okay after this because he knows he's been fired before, right or mutually parted ways. And then you're gonna hear Devin mcorty, who play for Belichick. This is good, Jason Garrett, you obviously

know Jerry Jones, so well, what'd you make of his comments? You know, I think they were actually on point for him, clearly very emotional, but I thought he was poised in this situation. He's very disappointed in this team. I think he had sites that this could be a team that could reach the Super Bowl. But he will support the coaches, he will support the players here in the next twenty four to forty eight. But after

that, they're going to have some internal discussions. If it doesn't feel like the team has achieved as potential, what changes do we need to make. I don't know what those are, but something's coming if they make a change. Mike Florio said, the pregame show a name to watch Stevin mccordy, Bill Belichick, and if Bill Belichick is the guy that comes in there. This team will never show up for a playoff game like that. That's one thing I promise you. But I do think if they had the opportunity to

get coach Belichick in there, you don't turn that down. This is where we are, that is, and I don't think it's just radio screaming the day after a playoff loss, Like I really think you have a coach that gets it done. Yeah, and I know they've not been good for a few years, but I just told you their roster is a joke. Yeah, and you need a quarterback, you kind of have one. And then the debate on if we have a quarterback. Fine, but I don't think

anyone wrong. Geez, I don't know what the Danny situation is right now. He's at least a good NFL quarterback. I think everyone can agree on that. I mean, Dak is in line to reset the quarterback mark again and be the icebayed quarterback. And that's gonna drave people crazy around here. But that's just how it works at quarterback. And I'm telling you, you've all watched football games this year and watched teams without a quarterback. You'll take

your dack. And that's why I was like, are we better off bitching about a twelve team, a twelve win team than a four win team? Yeah? I think we are. But how risky do you want to get? How risky do just Jerry want to get? At eighty one? I don't think imploding this thing makes sense. I do think it's a good roster. Is it up there to win it? No? But I think you can add it if you do things the right way. A couple savvy moves, good draft. I think you can get pretty close to where you're kind

of going here. But this is the big difference in last time. Last time, we were talking Matt Ruhle from Baylor, we were talking Lincoln Riley, we were throwing out with Belichick gets out of his deal there, and we were talking Sean Payton. Okay, that does not stack up to Bill Belichick. Laugh at me if you want, but he just retired. Nick Saban, Laugh at me if you want, because he's out. Pete Carroll,

Jim Harball, Mike Rabel, you know, huge head. Can't get over how big his head is. You don't want to coach having that big of a head. Doesn't Mike it is. Bruce Bocher has like the largest head in baseball history. It's because he does that that photograph trick by sticking his head real, Ha's huge neck waddle. If you right now, sports gun to my brain, who's the head coach at Alice Cowboys next year?

And I have to boy, I don't know. I would take McCarthy, but I will say Mike Rabel because I think there might be headbutting with the Belichick thing and the whole who buys the groceries. I think this is a very good team. I do this analogy a lot, but I think it fits. It's a very nice shoe and the shoelace is just untied and flapping about, and you need someone to grab the shoelaces and tie the thing tight.

And I think it's a good enough shoe team that if the lass were tired properly, this team, yes, could make a run at winning the whole damn thing. I fully agree, But if not, you're stumbling all over yourselves. And Bill Belichick's going to tighten that shoe. Real. The Dallas Cowboys since their last Super Bowl win, they've there's been twenty seven years, twenty seven seasons. They've made the playoffs. Less than fifty percent of

those times. They made the playoffs thirteen times in twenty seven years, and out of those thirteen playoff appearances, only five of them got them to the divisional round, which they lost all of those games. The rest of them, all other eight have been wild card losses, first round and done and this is the most recent. So my point is, you've got to do something big. And I Rabel, I like, I like it, but

it's just to the fans. To me, it's like, okay, all these it is Rabel any different as far as impact than Dorothy I mean, Belichick and dudes play hard for him, whatever the hell that. But don't you need to bring in a reputation as well? I think so. But are all these available coaches right now sitting on their couch and after yesterday's game going, oh, and are they all I thought about Mike Vrabel suddenly say Dallas A yeah, when he was thinking Carolina yesterday maybe when he woke up,

Yeah, no, New England's done. Yeah, I know. But at the time when we left, it was like that was open and it was thought he might want that job. I mean, the allure, a misstate whatever it is of the Cowboys is it still powerful enough to in the minds of all these available coaches, including Belichick. It fools millions of fans. Ye, maybe it fools some coaches too. Interesting here's what Dax said too, because something big. Maybe it's not the coach, maybe it's the

quarterback. I don't personally believe that, but I think it is up for debate. I'm wondering if Dak's going. Dak knows the power of being here in his emotional that he wants to be here and get settled in here. Does a kid coming next year? But think of listen to this quote after the game, Dak said, I don't know how there could be speculation talking about Mike McCarthy, but I understand the business. In that case, there should be about me as well. I understand it's about winning the Super Bowl.

That's the standard of the league and damn sure the standard of this place. I get it. But add me to the list in that case, that's that's a dude that knows how to play the game being kind of fake accountable. Yeah, I don't buy that at all. That's a guy saying the right things because he's really really good at that. We had a text or Dak is the problem. Cooper Rush would have won this game. No, it wouldn't have. Mike McCarthy coach saff not the problem, and that

a bunch of doesn't matter. It's all on Jerry, which I mean. Doug's right. That's the ultimate I think it. It's almost the ultimate goes without being said thing, and that's why I was a dick to our caller, Doug. And Doug I'd like to say, I apologize, and I hope that you have Dale safe travels today, not Dale travels that'd be bad out there. You want to take us the Italian Food Fest and Grapevine don't have those, not yet, not yet. But do you want tickets to

the MAVs? Do I? Because if you do, I do, then the number that you need to know right now is two one four or eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven one. We'll take the first three callers, put you on hold. You will pick one of us. We're gonna have a little chance for you to win MAVs tickets. We'll give you the latest on the weather and all that as well. That's next time. Ninety seven won the free

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