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Should McCarthy Be Fired If They Lose?

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A Super Wild Card Pump Session, should they fire the coach if they lose

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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety seven to one, the freak I'm away, I'm away, I'm a way down. Should Coach McCarthy be fired if the Cowboys lose on Sunday? You can call in and weigh in two one four or eight one seven seven eight seven one n one. Also text in all day leave talkbacks too. iHeartRadio app red microphone button. It was up to a thirty second voicemail. We might play those in the nine to thirty

segment coming out in one hour. Jimmy Kimmel against Aaron Rodgers. Kimmel's first episode of the new year was last night, and he had a lot to say about Aaron Rodgers calling him a pedophile or making a joke that he would be on Epstein's list. Uh got the audio for that, the juice behind all of that ding Good Morning News coming up in thirty minutes. But you know, Cowboys wild Card weekend definitely a super Wildcard weekend made us want to

create a new segment that Mikey King came up up with that. I love the Super wild Card pump session. That's right, gemp. We are pumped up, but there's nothing wrong to get more pumped up, No, man, And here's the thing, there's basically no limit to how pumped up you can get. Yeah. I mean there may be some eventual like health concern with your heart or something like that, but I don't think just being straight

up pumped has really ever led to anything too terrible. So get pumped, and get pumped today, and then tomorrow more pumped, you know more, and then bam right on Sunday afternoon. That's hopefully when everybody you know it peaks and the team peaks. Everything happens and it's good for everyone. Yeah, go Cowboys, and you start getting pumped again. Cold Front's gonna peak up as that's happening as well. As the temperatures drop, you get more

excited to warm your body up for the game. Cowboys three point thirty on Sunday. They want you to wear white if you're going to the game. Tickets are not gonna be a affordable though. Looking at that weirdly, have you looked, dude, standing room only stuff and the high triple digits is it? Yeah, more like more than two fifty just to get in the damn building. I don't know if it's more than two fifty you said high triple digits, I think oh oh no, no, i'man like over one

hundred, one hundred and ninety someone. Well, don't say it the way you said it, then, Okay, Uh the lowest that I have on SE I got you one eight. If you want to go to the party pass, okay, but I'm not. You know I'm not. Okay, Yeah, Kevin hates the party pass when I have a TV. Okay, don't go on party pass. Let me just say, have you done it? I did it the first time first game I ever went to there Carolina Panthers. It maybe be the first game ever or first or second home game

ever. I was like, don't want to see this building, dude, And you didn't know the party pass was a damn joke. Yeah, and you can't access the building. No, you can access the building, but

I'm no, I mean the entire stadium. Oh no, no, you I mean you got standing room only and and you if you want to fight, the best you're gonna do with the party passes is watch the game on the side TV of the hanging jumbo tron, which, hey, you know, I mean you want not affordable to go see this football team play which is insane for real fans, which is a whole different conversation. But you're

in the building, you're at the game. You can tell your friends that you get to hear it, you can feel some of the vibe, if that's worth something to you. But you're gonna be watching it on the side of the JumboTron unless you get there and run in when they crack the doors open. We always see that video and then fight for your life up on the rail. Dallas, Texas TV always posts those Yes, there's always someone laying on the concrete, like the guy who fell out of the Best Pro

Shop aquarium, motionless, almost getting trampled. I'm done. You can go way upper ten. Three hundred. No, I'm just watch it on TV under three hundred. No. No, I know, I know, I know, we know you're gonna do that. Jesus Kevin, I know play radio. I know how much is parking for a playoff game? I bet that's doubled, is it? I bet it's two hundred bucks to park anywhere near that. I bet, dude, it's already one hundred. Kevin one hundred. It used to be seventy five inflation. I thought it was seventy

five. What do we pay to go to damn Metallica? I don't know. It was one hundred dollars, dude. I had a heartburn that day. I'll say it. I don't like events at AT and T Stadium. I don't either, Yeah, especially football games. You know, just watch it. But uh so, here's the coaching scuttle butt so far as yesterday

was Black Monday, I few coaches got fired. The Washington Commanders put in a formal interview request for one dan Quinn, the LA Chargers with offensive coordinator Kellen Moore in an interview request for dan Quinn, and the Carolina Panthers with sharp Teeth and Claws they put in an interview request for dan Quinn. Now, dan Quinn had a panther to Danny's impressions. Yes, a panther, do you not? I'll just put surperr on there. Yeah, do your

sir, per Dude. That's up there with treyvon Diggs, Kermit the Frog, the blue collar, redkneck comedy tour guys in Surper of the many Danny impressions, as we keep a running list of that buzz see like those are three? Now, dan Quinn when asked about it in this big David More article that came out. He's like, the good news for me is I can compartmentalize the prep you do for head coaching interviews you do in the off

season. And I go, Okay, good answer. Not falling for it, because when you go interview for a team, you talk about their personnel, okay, and you have to you have to know what those players are, which he kind of does. But you know, dan Quinn is a guy who doesn't take the criticism when the Cowboys give up thirty that Mike McCarthy does when the Cowboys score twelve. Very interesting thing, and maybe that's just what goes of being the head coach. My question today is should coach McCarthy

be fired if the Cowboys lose on Sunday? Three straight twelve wins seasons, three straight playoff appearances? Should or will they answer them? Both? Yeah, I think I think that's a good way to look at it. I think no and no. Look, you can usually read tea leaves on these

sorts of things, and take the dan Quinn thing. For instance, if three teams right now on January ninth are requesting interviews twenty four hours after openings happen in some of those cases, the tea leaves say that that is a piping hot commodity that is probably, assuming he wants it, will be a head coach in the NFL next year, you know. But the opposite side of that is there's been virtually no talk of firing Mike McCarthy all year.

There really hasn't, except for maybe the beginning of the year when we start the year and they o Vegas. Oh, does Mike McCarthy is one of the top coaches to get fired just because that's whatever. There's been nothing so to go for. I mean, no one's talking about it right now, we are, but I guess it's more of a hypothetical situation. Yeah, it would be shocking if a week from yesterday the hot topic is fire Mike McCarthy. And the only way I think that happens is with a significant defeat

that you can lay on the head coach. I mean, even if they lose a close game, there's gonna be some of that. But if there's something egregious that you can say, wow, that's on the head coach, and they lose by ten or lose convincingly to Green Bay, then I think it'll be a legitimate conversation, a big one, and Jerry himself will be looking in the mirror asking these questions. But generally speaking, I think no, he's not fired, and I think no, he should not get fired.

Agree. I think I said as much yesterday. It's going to have to a bad decision, a time management decision, something that is kind of directly his responsibility that leads to their loss. That's the only way that he should be fired. Will get Would he get fired after a loss under any circumstance, I don't know, but I'm with you. I agree steady hand. Three twelve win seasons in a row. Who else is going to do that? I mean, he's proven he can do it. Yeah, and

I wonder how many you got some damn good personnel. He's got some guys that are hurt. Is Jimmy Johnson the closest thing to coach fired after three straight twelve win seasons? I mean maybe I'm missing someone, but around here, well, yeah, and do we leave you that as fired less? Yeah? Yeah, that's fair. But we knew what happened there though. Well Yeah, okay, first of all, I've said this a million times. I'm not going to lay out the whole whole history. I've seen every

Might Mcarthy game he's ever coached in his life. I'm a lifelong Packers fan. I know him. I don't have terribly high thoughts of him. I think he is a good NFL head coach. I do not think he I think you can do better than him. And I think for the most lucrative franchise in all of sports, to settle, which I think they did, is bad, and especially in when there's no salary cap for coaching, I think it's inexcusable. You should act like the Dodgers are acting and buy everyone.

So I can't handle coaching mistakes from this franchise like I maybe can tolerate from other franchises who might be a little more, you know, budget constraints and things like that. Should he be fired if they lose? Probably not, because I can't be the guy that says odds are you're never gonna win a championship. If you look at it, fourteen teams make the playoffs, your odds are not great of winning a Super Bowl. Roll the dice. Maybe you get it. Okay, so no, but if you do listen

to the Packers. I do think he will be canned. I think for two reasons. One, he's got a year left on his contract that I don't think they would mind paying that out. I don't think that's that big of a deal. Okay, I think he makes a little I think around ten million dollars. I don't think that's a big deal. And I think too Jerry, at this stage in his life, is not going to go backwards, lose to the Packers again, who have caused so many demons for

Jerry at home, okay, and then go backwards. You can't go backwards, I think neutral. I think if you lost in the division round, I think Jerry'd be okay, and you'd run it back for his final year of his contract. But this is a sign that you went backwards, even though everyone in the world knows you have better talent and a better chance to win. And I just don't think that is going to work for Jerry. And I don't think Steven or anyone else who's trying to talk Jerry out of

it would be able to stop that from happening. And I know it's crossed his mind before, because there was a time when Mike McCarthy thought that he needed to calm down narratives by going after the offseason two years ago after the off season, calling up Rich Eisen and saying, Hey, man, I need to do an interview on your show, and basically kind of went around the organization a little bit and did his own interview. And I think it was like, I think they actually kind of looked at that as Okay,

I kind of like the fight. I kind of liked that you did that and didn't just sit here and take dan quinn narratives and things like that. By the way, I think Mike McCarthy dan Quinn get along great. But you can't go backwards and I don't think Jerry's going to allow that. Isn't part of going backwards though, resetting your head coach and coaching staff, and I think that's that. And can Jerry afford that amount of time he can afford to get rid of a three straight twelve win team, back to back

right back to back division? Uh No, Eagles won last year. Yeah, I think it's nineteen years in a row of new NFC East Division winners. But that is the name would have to blow you away. Bill Belichick has a twenty five million dollar deal with the Patriots twenty five million. It's reset the coaching, you know, market completely, and he's under contract for next year. He even said in his post Gay Press cover today, I'm gonna come into work every day like I always do, and he's gonna go

to work until they tell him we don't want you around anymore. And I don't think Bob Kraft is gonna say that to him unless he knows he can get Mike Rabel from Tennessee or someone that he likes him wants. I don't think that's gonna happen. That's the one name I'm gonna read you this little excerpt from an article I found in The Athletic that was a little interesting to

me. It's a guy named Mike Sando, and he does this thing where he's got all his buddies in the league, and it's anonymous executives, and the Athletic article it says from one executive, Belichick to Dallas is my sleeper. But I'd make Atlanta the odds on favorite for Bill, the Chargers the odds on favorite for Harball. And there's a big talk that Atlanta wants Bill Belichick and they do whatever and Arthur Blank's kind of like Jerry got a ton

of money, I'll do whatever. Execs pointed to Dallas as a potential surprise candidate for an opening if the Cowboys exit the playoffs prematurely. Dallas ranks tied with Baltimore for fourth in the regular season win rate since McCarthy took over, But much like Baltimore, McCarthy's one and two in the postseason, John Harball is not going to be in the hot seat though, you know he's going to be there forever. Mike Tomlin could go and they make they have a

winning record every single year. But Mike Tomlin could go nine to eight for ten more years. They're not gonna get rid of him. Yeah, but you would have said that same thing about Belichick. Okay, nine and eighty is different than I suppose the records that they've posted recently. You thought Belichick would be Patriots for life until he decides otherwise. It's it's twenty twenty four, man, It's not what it used to be. Yeah, I mean,

you can fall out of favor really quickly. But I think there's nine coaches in the NFL that have won a Super Bowl. We have one of them, and five of them are still with their same teams, you know, Harbaugh, McVeigh and Tomlin and Reed and Belichick for now, Pete Carroll. I mean, McCarthy's the twelfth most tenured coach of the NFL A twenty twenty. I mean, there's a form of stability there that's good. And it's what McCarthy and Sean Payton and Doug Peterson that are with different team that

was both with different teams. But I'm just saying, you're like, it's even when they hired him. It wasn't the sexy high or whatever. I mean, the dude is a stable rock of winning football for nearly twenty five years. Look, I'm not even a McCarthy defender, and I get it. I mean every team, if you watch every play, you're gonna get go nuts and yell about the head coach and you're already probably yell about the quarterback. I mean, that's just kind of how it goes. Dude.

Mike McDaniel's seen his boy wonder in this league, and you it drives you nuts sometimes, I'm sure when you can't get a play into the huddle. Yes, the players I was reading just yesterday some little article of not even an article, just someone's thought on Mike McCarthy he's hot seat or Mike McDaniel's hot seat, and then another article about how the Dolphins like set the bar of injuries in the NFL this season. Whatever. There's just infinite stuff that

goes in. The only way I think McCarthy gets fired even if they lose this week is if they just instantly hand the job to dan Quinn, because then it won't be the massive turnover that I don't think Jerry has the time and his life calendar to afford. Bringing Belichick in is just like bringing in parcels where Jerry's suddenly like, wait, I don't get to talk about anything

anymore. Yeah, does this team, this team that's as far as its personnel goes, and how long they've been together and where Dak is in his career. Is Belichick the coach that they need? They need a massive,

full on reset. I don't think we're there, no, no, no. And I think the reason dan Quinn stayed last year, when he was a pretty hot commodity too, is because there was a lot of winks, a big old check written, and probably a quiet handshake of when the time comes all, this can be your Yes, it'd be really easy to just go, hey McCarthy, dak Micah, ceedee, lamb, run it back.

We're good. Whatever happens this playoff, run run it back. Yes, it's a very easy thing to do, and it says final year of his contract, and that's the thing that makes the most sense, and it's the thing that will likely happen. And they're likely going to beat the Packers on Sunday, but for the sake of the hypothetical going backwards, they would. Jerry's cool down process is what you'd have to count on, because I think in the moment that first seven to ten days after that game, oh

my god, we had two home games. You bring up a really interesting point if you kind of evolve the topic. I like doing that. Mike McCarthy might get fired if they lose in the first round, regardless for fear of losing dan quinn. Yes, because if they bring back McCarthy, Yes, chances are dan quinn is not going to be your defensive coordinator next year.

Who does Jerry think is more valuable to this team right now? If you could get in his head and crack it open, would you think that he thinks Dan Quinn is more, contributes more, and is more essential to the essential quality of this team. Yeah, what would Dak say? And that's I don't know. And we always say nothing's as smart or big as you think it is. That includes the US government or a radio station or

a football team. Jerry's not above exactly. What we started the segment with was like blaming in his head McCarthy when things go wrong, and conveniently not really blaming Quinn when things go wrong. Defensively, what if thirty eight thirty one and that's kind of on the defense, Like, yeah, against the defense's probably gonna hang twenty eight points on us. Yeah maybe maybe maybe not.

But Packer's off. It's playing really good right now. Again, this post seventeen pins iNTS of bears though, So I'm not like, no, I heard that that game flow dictated all that. But caller's wighing in. You'll get some calls. Oh yeah, let's go to uh the line one. Who do we got here? Hey? Man? You're live on the air wayzy? Oh? How you doing? Where you calling from? Man? I'm going from Dallas. I like Dallas. What's up? Man?

You know what I've been I've been watching these Cowboys and the nineties, man, and every year it was, Hey, we were on top of the world for a while, then we got Swisser, we got another title, and after that it's been trash man. We've had all these coaches. We had Garrett Man, we went ten years of him going eight and eight, and every year we still have hope. And every year we're still like, oh yeah, we're in it. We got this. You know what.

I've gone through so much misery my whole life as a fan, and this is the year. You know why, We're not gonna fire our coach cause he's good. We're twelve and four, twelve and five. Man, You know, every year Garrett didn't do that, Phillips didn't do that for us. Huh. But what if you lose? I mean, you're a hardcore cowboy fan. How are you gonna fill seven o'clock on Sunday? You lose? We're not gonna lose. And if we do, guess what, it's

part for the course. It's happened before. It's happened to me every year every year we're disappointed, but not this time. You know. You gotta have faith, man, We gotta have some hope we can dream about, you know what I mean? One day we can imagine running down down the Texas, burning cars and flipping things over. Yeah, this guy does remember the nineties. Punch your horse, let's flip a car if they beat the Packers This Sunday and I saw McCarthy at the Super Bowl here in Dallas.

I thought it'd be us, but no, guess what he won? It was, you know, no big deal. It wasn't like I went because I wanted to see them. I expected the Cowboys to be there, and guess what they weren't. This had we had some hope. Man, we got a little more than what we've had before. Every game if one game at a time, Man, let's win one. Let's get one. Is he God? Bless you man, thank you for your call. Let's flip

a fee ut Sunday night for it's Super wild Card weekend. Hey, do you live in North oak Cliff and have like an suv with Cowboys written on every inch of it? No? I do not sound like my neighbor. Neighbor there has a giant this is Cowboys country flag and another one has the SUV that is jacked out with the blue lights. And everything, and it sounded passionate, like my friend is her? You can go now? Is he rut balls? Easy? Let's do one more JJ real quick? Who

we got here? Hi? What's your name? This is Cheese? Hey, Yeah, I'm doing all right, man. I just want to thank Kat for being the voice of reason. I do love my Dolphins though that's my AFC team, But Kevin's right. I'm actually of the position that not only has McCarthy had fire ruble of senses this year, but they could win the Super Bowl and I would still want him fired because it's Dak who's carrying this team, and Dak who should be the MVP. As we all know.

Is the reason that it covers up for many of McCarthy's failures. I'm telling you, Aaron Rodgers covered up so much, thank you. That team didn't really missed the playoffs and because of just dumb stuff. Yeah, there's fifty three dudes on a roster and twenty some odd coaches. I mean, as a team effort, it's not just the quarterback covered for the head coach. But I can you can't simplify anything like that to anyone. I could

pay whatever to anyone to coach the team. As when you have a quarterback and people say, oh, Dak sucks, it's kind of the easy question is okay, well, who you're going to replace him with? I think with head coaching it's a little bit different, a little bit easier to find somebody Mike McDaniel style who actually knows how to put people in motion on a

consistent basis. And it's kind of like Ceedee lamb happy to do the season, everybody's making excuses for oh, well McCarthy's getting back in the groove of play calling. Well, from day one, you should be getting Ceedee Lamb the ball. And so when Mike McDaniel is doing his things in Miami and he's doing a great job, you know, just as far as scheming things, that's what Mike McCarthy's, in my opinion, the biggest weakness is that

he goes into a game without having stuff like that in place already. It's amazing that every year, thank you for your call, cheess, appreciate it that every year, as every year we're gonna ask this question, how do they lose in the playoffs? And that will somehow dictate what happens. And that is a small sample size and a bad way to look at things. But I do think that plays a part. And what's gonna happen here? Now? You go beat the Packers, you have a home game against the

Lions or the Rams, you know who knows. I mean, this is your best chance to get to the conference championship game that you'll ever have because you have two home games and you haven't lost at home this year. So I think you're in good shape there. And I think he's fine. Well, I really do think. But if this upset happens, this one against that f and team, dude, Jerry is not gonna be okay with that.

Well, it's just like anything else, Kevin. If you if they make it to the super Bowl, all of the mistakes that he made in the regular season are forgotten. If you lose in the first round, you go back and look at all those things, they're a lot more illuminated. And then you look at the loss in the playoffs as the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm just say, Jerry's not gonna take his anger out on bones. You know, if they lose this game, Jerry will in

his right hand have the rocks glass with Johnny Walker blue. His hand will start to shake and he will crush the glass and maybe a trickle of blood and Johnny Walker on his hand, and he will be irate. I will give you that. And if he does, remember how he felt the same exact way when we got Cowboys got annihilated by the forty nine ers, and that next day I was like, he will not forget this. There is

a chance. But they got to lose pretty ugly, I think. And to answer the ultimate question, I think, no, Mike McCarthy is not getting fired next week, and no he shouldn't and no they're not going to lose. How about that. That was your super Wildcard Pump session for today. We'll be back tomorrow with another super Wildcard pump secon the pump right now

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