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I love that our guests is listening to this picking games against the spread like I guess some libroody pix with Glenn's long history, I guess pretty good friends picking games against the spread with a guess lebdy fantastic, fantastic indeed, Uh, it's time for our sorry where we make picks, where we pick two NFL games. We have a random caller make picks. What every week we have a guest celebrity join us and we spent a wheel in alphabetic lely is
it W? This this week is the dub W And this was an easy, easy decision for me because we have someone joining us who is a a great dude. He's in the Grambling State University Hall of Fame, the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame, the Texas Black Sports Hall of Fame, the Swack Hall of Fame, and all around one of the best dudes I've ever been lucky enough to cross paths with since I moved here to Texas. He's in the Mike Sarroy Ring of Honor. I will tell you that this is Cubby
Ever send it, Damn Walls, we got you. I'm good. Are you all right? I'm sorry, sir Roy so Roy, I forgot your French. French I'm your French friend. Right, did you get this chance to hear that song while you're on hold? I did horrible, horrible. I'm starting to hang out blame. That was my friend Kevin Turner, who's with me here today, as is my other friend Danny Bayless. Ever so bad that's what we used to call you when I was in high school.
Yeah, yeah, yep, you heard that one before. I'm sure Jimmy Johnson called me a couple of times. Yeah, like that's back in the eighties when bad was good. You know, it's a dude. I'll tell you my friend Kevin here, his nickname growing up was Cubby as well. That's right, you're a liar, that's right. Yes, cubby because he actually looks like a bear. Yeah, he's a little bear boy. That was the mascot of my hometown. They're the only cubs. So you know,
I was. I was. I actually looked like a cub bear too, so yeah, that's why they called me. I had hair all over my face. That was the reason. Oh yeah, a baby. I was a baby. Yeah, I had here everywhere. I don't know what the heck happened to it because I am hairless now, like the little wolf man and like Guinness Book of World Records, a little baby born right because I got as I got older, I started howling. Yes, that's that's just like him. Well we've instead of a rattle, they handed him a
straight razor. Yeah, A big play with this. So Everson and I we worked together on a TV show with Brady Tinker for years and became Buddy, Yeah, b Tank the BT Cruiser and uh and we would have Everson on certain sarroy a Lot and Cash and I's only rule was the one word we never said was cowboys because Everson is such a hilarious, interesting dude on one hundred different directions and that we were like, it'd be funny to have
Everson Wallas all the time and never talk Cowboys, and I'm going to kind of violate it in this case because we had you on as our celebrity to pick a couple games. We'll do that in a minute, but we have like an interception legend and machine fifty seven of them in your career, and I wanted to ask you while we have you on about Deron Bland and uh oh man, Yeah, your thoughts. I love it. I love it.
You know, we're really blessed to have two guys come along the way that Diggs and Bland have come along and really turn some games around for us. I mean, let's face it, you know, we all gave up a few passes. That's just the way it goes. There's no shut down here. It was just guys making plays, and when it came down to it, guys are making plays when we need to make plays. Not only that, Bland has a chance to eclipse Diggs and myself, and that would
be pretty interesting. If you have two cornerbacks come along and threatening a franchise mark the way these guys have in consecutive years. That's pretty dark cool for the Cowboys to have that kind of search luff. As far as DB's concern, Yeah, and I think Al Harris, the longtime dB, maybe deserve some credit because he since he showed up. It seems like the cowboys, like interception stats have turned around. But whatever it is, they're getting picks
these days. But getting picks is one thing, but taking them to the house is a different one. And you as legend here, I never did that. Here, I can tell you that, Yeah, you have one pick six in your career in fifty seven interceptions. So I'm not going to say that means you're slow. But recall, recall the one touchdown to the house for us. We won't say that. We won't say that. What's your what's your recollection of taking that one to the house. Where was that?
Oh? It was in New York. Actually I was with the Giants. We were still were undefeated and we were trying to remain undefeated. We were six and oh and uh we were putting it to the Redskins big time. They were called the Redskins the time. And you know this guy Monk tried to, you know, run one of those little Z routes or in and out routes, whatever you guys call them. These days, and I read that thing like a book, and matter of fact, it looked like
he was throwing the ball to me. I think Humphrey was the quarterback number sixteen for the Redskins, And Uh, it was easy. I stepped in front of him and took it to the house. It looked harder than it was because I ran so ugly, but it really was an easier interception of what it looked like. The guy thought I was going to get caught at five yard life and I caught the interception of like a twenty. So it
was a short return, but I barely made it in. I love the legend talk of just throwing Art Monk's name in there, and I believe it he was tough. This is all easy questions, but yeah, I mean, just because you mentioned Arn't Monk, who's the Who's the guy the wide receiver of that era? The the hardest, hardest time with uh, Roy Green? If you're talking all over the league. Yeah, Roy Green was
the dude. I mean, uh, people are still talking about and trying to get him into the Hall of Fame, but his injuries on the thing that's going to keep him out if he doesn't make it in and simply because it affected his tenure. You know, his longevity was affected by that. And uh yeah, it was just tough to see a guy like him go down. But I'm not gonna lie. When his leeds started bothering him,
I started shutting his asd down. So I just outlasted him. Was It wasn't that I was better than him, but I just outlasted at the guy. I think it's how it went. All right, this is our guy, Everson Walls. We got the Eagles this week, and uh, I don't know if you got anything about the actual game, fine, but it's more back to your time. Who was who was public enemy number one? As far as team was it the Giants for the Redskins, Eagles? Who was it for you? Back in the day? The team that I really
hated. I think I hated to play against Philly. I really did. They had a it's really the way it is now. They always had a good running game. They always had a quarterback such as a cunning hand, you know, that was back there doing a lot of work and doing a lot of damage, bringing a total different element to the game. And of course their running game was always prevalent, and that was something that cornerbacks like
myself really didn't like a steady diet of you understand. You know, I wanted to go out there and cover some guys and see how that worked. But I wasn't about you know, Wiever Montgomery coming around the corner big. They had this big running back named Joseph. He's the one that bruised my spleen back in nineteen ninety one. And to this day, you know, of course I had the whole kidney thing going on later on. Even when I was donating the kidney, they could still see the bruise on the spleen.
Wow. And to this day I had an assessment done, which is a blessing by the NFL Player Association, And when I had my assessment done all over from head to toe, they could still see the freaking bruise on my spleen. So that's the kind of ruggedness that we had to deal with with Philadelphia running back that caused you lafelong damage. Geez well, I whipped Cubby in many a TV studio of just asking them these kind of questions because
I could do it for hours. I'm keeping my hand over my mouth right now, not to just go crazy because this is my Cowboys wheelhouse was mid late eighties and then into the into the nineties as well, Man, do you have what if you want? Because just because you mentioned the running back, I'm like, is it John Riggins, Like, who's the worst running backs? He runner? Yeah, on my timeline maybe off here a little bit, but you mentioned the Eagles, and I was wondering if you ever
had to deal much with Harold Carmichael and his tall ass. Hal Carmichael scored an eighty yard touchdown on me. I think it was my rookie year right, and the worst quarterback in the world through the past, Rodewalski, he was the worst. But having said that, I'm good friends with Hall Carmichael. We share a lot of the same honors except for the NFL Hall of Fame, all of those other accolades that you called out. He had those
same things because about being HBCU players. I called him one day because I saw the recollection. It was a recap on the internet, I think it was on Facebook or something, and they ended up they ended up showing an eighty yard touchdown and I called Harold immediately and I said, man, you remember this play? He goes no, Man, I don't remember. I said, Man, that's such crap. You know, you got an eighty o touchdown on the bridle like myself and you don't even recall. You know,
that was just so insulting. That did hurt. You really did all right? Well ever since Walls, I you know, I want you. If you want, man, you at green light anytime, and if you want to call up the studio and just screw around with us, uh after the New year or something like that, we would love to have you. But you consider that an open invitation because, like I said, we got a million old questions and I know you're on top of the new stuff as
well. So one of the things we want to have you do. We do picks with Picks with Glenn's that's our listeners, and you are the celebrity picker this week. So we need you to pick. Yeah I heard, I heard the song. Oh yeah, we played again? If you want Actually, I'm good, I'm good ever sending myself for fine. So we need we needed to pick two NFL games. The first one has to be the Cowboy game. So we have the Cowboys at home. They are three
and a half point favorite with the Eagles coming to town. Everson Walls have who's the three and a half? Three and a half part for Dallas is yeah, Cowboys have got the three for home and a half point. So the cow Cowboys got to win by four. We'll covering that. Yeah, we'll cover that, Yes, sir, Yes, come on, all right. They can't they can't keep up with out with our wide receivers. The
secondary has always been sort of a week. I won't call them trash because they're fellow DBS, but uh, i'd have to say that having them keeping up with our wide receivers and our passing game, it's gonna be tough for them to do that. I don't see them covering the spread at all. I love it, all right, Cowboys to win by more than three and a half points is what Kubby has representing these celebrities. We need one more game. Did you look one up for you to throw one at you?
Yeah, I'm looking at these Texans and Jets. Man. I like the Texas. They do pretty well. Uh, what's the what's the spread on that one? Give me that? That's uh, we'll call three and a half. Actually, the Texans are a three and a half point favorite. On the road in New York against the Jets. Wow, okay, they can handle that. Yeah, Houston is playing extremely well, especially with CJ getting off at the quarterback position. We got a couple of old Cowboys there.
That's one reason I picked the game. We have Shelves getting off and we have Brown. Come on, Brown's not doing interceptions. He's not giving interceptions tea of the team. He's actually catching the ball and doing well. So now I think the Texas are covered as well. All right, lock it in. Texans minus three and a half, Cowboys minus three and a half. Cobby, love you, man, Thank you so much for waking up early and jumping on board. You want to pub anything? What are
you doing? You're doing any podcasts or any TV stuff? What are you up to? Man? I am with mixed shots with the Cowboys. I don't have to worry about coming over content. I can just sit down and look cute all day. That's my specialty, and we have a good time. Man. I'm down. We're like an old heads. Man. It's me Bill Jones, a fagged and we just got Savannah. I know if you guys heard Savannah, I can't say her last name is a tough Swedish name, so she can have it. But she's a cool chick man,
and we just, you know, we're old people. Except for her. We go down a rabbit hole and sometimes we never come back. So you know, if you're listening to it, you have to be of the same genre as in Times Times period as guys like and what is that work? Where can you find it? What is that? Mix? Shots on Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys dot car love it one of the I think it's one of the five podcasts of the Cowboys. Oop. All right, all right, I gotta say one more thing. I gotta say one more thing. Something
just came out and I know you guys got time. Skip Bayley's talked about me. Did you hear about this crept? No? Skip Bayley's talked about me and the thermospies was supposed to be anonymous in talking about exposing Hershel Walker for doing ten thousand push ups, ten thousand fit ups today or whatever the hell he is lying about. And I just wanted to tell Skip to anybody out there. Anytime I made a statement to any reporter, I put my
name behind it. I have never told the reporter, hey man, this is you know, this is going to be, you know, undercovered stuff. No, anytime that I made a statement about anyone, I don't give it damn to Hershey Walker, I wanna give it damn who the reporter was. I always put my name behind my statement. So as you might come up on some little Facebook or whatever Instagram stories, you make sure that you understand that Skip Bailey is lying his ass off talking about that nothing new there.
Yeah, there you go. Does that go back to the days when he was here with you? An you think about Skip Bayless and Skip was cool to we start lying on it. Don't lie on me. I never I never told anyone to not put my name behind If I stay hersh and walking lying about all this push up and sit up. I did say it, and I'm saying it right now. And Skipper is trash, all right, Cobby, love you, buddy man. Thanks for jumping on for real, dude, open invite hit me up anytime, and uh, I'll probably
do the same to you. And we'd love to have you come on in and uh you can sit here and look pretty with us, just like you're doing with mixed shots. All right. The Frenchman, Frenchman, are you kidding? I just got to talk to Everson Walls. You're friends with him, dude. It was different growing up here. That dude was legend. If you were a dB in high school back in the day, you thought you were Everson Walls or you wanted to be Everson Walls. He was the
guy. I knew the name, but I didn't grow up here, but I was, you know, work with him, and like in two days we became buddies. And he's funny. He's funny as hell, he's smart as a whip. And you know what, he loved Game of Thrones and when it was going on, that's all that's we have him on circ just a review Game of Thrones, and I remember in like season two, he's like, soroy, you know, them dragon's gonna melt that whole wall.
And I'm like, oh my god, he's right. I didn't I didn't even think about, actually, those dragons are going to be right part of this thing. I didn't think about very anything. You know, the dragons are gonna melt that wall. I'm so glad I don't follow the Skip Bayless news headlines of the world because there's something I totally irrelevant to me. I don't think about him. I don't either, but I saw him headline about skip baylists exposes source. I like, yesterday saw it. I had no
clue. I didn't up and send that to skips team. That's when I'm skipped to suck on. Hey. That's why I asked him what he thought of skip bayless because I was like, this is something that could be cut and I don't know it's a one day line until he started lying on me. Yeah, wow, damn, we got a Glenn. Do we have a Glenn? Yes? Yeah, let's go quick. Sorry, you know how much time? Dude or lay? Who do we got? Hi? Dude? What's your name? Man's Chris? Callin from Burlaston? Chris?
Can you just just just tickle me and tell me that mister Wallas is still on the line and I'm on the conversation with y'all with him. We can tell you that, but it wouldn't be true. Okay, It's good enough for me, Bud school Man, stay your resume. You just conducted an interview with Everson Walls. Chris, well done? Still better already? All right? Cowboys, Minuster Cowboys, minastere and a half. I cannot believe I was just on with the cowboy, Chris, Philly's gonna roll Philly's gonna
rollo after that loss last weekend. I just don't see them going back home and letting Dallas come up there and put it on them. And it's Jerry's fault. It's not the cowboy's fault, that's Jerry. The game's here, Yeah, it's a home game. Somebody told me it was in Philly. Oh well, then that's really gonna upset the Dallas fans whenever they go fourteen and one at home. All right, you're not fast? Are you taking Philly Philly? All right? He's got Philly plus three and a half.
All right, you need one more NFL game? Oh? Okay, this Walls last week? Who's the Browns guy? The Browns have Jacksonville. Yeah, Brown's minus three and a half. M Not sure how you feeling. Normally I would kick it around away, Sime with you, But okay, Jacksonville, all right, Exville. He's got the Jacks plus three and a half. I don't hear Trevor Lawrence is walking into the facility. Just fine, Chris Pherrell, you sound like a very uh energetic young man. We
need that in mornings. Apparently, let's let Malcolm be the closer. I'll go next Dallas minus three and a half, and I'm gonna take the Raiders plus three over the Vikings. I think Josh Stobbs for interceptions, gonna snowball Raiders plus three for me, Ding, you give me the Eagles and give me the Seahawks over plus ten and a half. Yes, sometimes great handicappers disagree, but sometimes they think, alike, give me the Eagles plus three
and a half, give me the Seahawks plus ten and a half. Wonder twin powers they're activate all is Mike gonna catch Danny if he's picking the same games as him. We're not in chase mode just yet. Yeah, okay, just trying to cap our JJ. Give me the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm a fake Seattle, are you really? Yeah? Ten and a half. It's a lot lot of points and that's the plan for their life, all right? All right? Malcolm at fourteen and twelve and the third place,
A couple of disclaimers, if I may real quick. Number one, He had just woke up this morning with Mom, Okay, I forgot to do this again yesterday, so I put it on Mom to take care of a recording Malcolm, so he sounds real sleepy. And Malcolm, at the young age of two almost three years old, has learned how to fart and blame it on the dog. You're gonna love this volume up Here we Go. Are you ready for some football picks? Okay? Do you want Bills
or Chiefs? Cheez all right? Okay? And Eagles or Cowboys? An Cowboys? Cowboys? Yay? All right? What is that? And he's too? Annie's his mom's dog and he's too and he's two. Listen again to the Here we Go Cowboys? Yay? All right? What was that? And he's too? She's not even in here Annie, chewi s girl? Okay? And if you were to see Sanna today, what would you ask him for for Christmas? Monks? Most talks? Could you catch any of that? Mugs, monster trucks and holloway books, monster trucks and okay
books, just like his dad talks. Then say hi to Daddy. I like to daddy. Go ahead and say hey, hy daddy, have a great day, Like hey, do you need to make a poo poop? He feels better and kidnapped his kid. I want him just be careful first, thing in the morning. God, it's huge, all right, picks with Glenn's well done one in all and mega thanks to a dude who should be in the Ring of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame am in Everson Walls very very close. All right. Uh it's eight thirty, that's
dingu time. Yep. Instead of Dingo's Morning News, we're going to do part two of ding Sings Things, a look back at the year in the musical endeavors of my dumbass