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have some clarity of what the afterlife is. Would you not fear death as much? If you're like, hey, man, it'll be a buttload of sex. I mean yes, I mean something to look forward to, because now, unless you're super devout, the afterlife looks a little bleak unless you're very devout. Fortunately I am. He's dead out and he's got gout. He doesn't have a doubt the good thing. We're only eighteen seconds into this segment. Save it in the next two most important thing in the world.
Save it with sorry. I think I started the second with do you guys like sports? That's a pretty good hook, is it. I don't know. It's not wake. I think it's objected. I think one person would say the next person would say, it's time to get your stupid ass out of play that game the most until we die. Yeah, nothing bad could happen. The section heaven is an interesting Talvin or hell? I mean, is there section hell? Lil laws X proved that there is that one video,
then Dave Chappelle made a joke about him. The Dreamer by Dave Chappelle. It's worth the watch. I'd say he kind of doesn't miss pretty good. He waited on the Chris Rock Will Smith things pretty funny and getting attacked on stage. Give it Give it a watch on Netflix It is weird too, because I went to that Chappelle show at the AAC and I had press play on the Netflix thing and it starts he has, oh something else, But then I could see where he started in on the same stuff that I'd
already seen. Yeah, kind of neat. I stopped watching it. Oh, okay, I've already seen this one. Well, I don't know, it was late and whatever. Yeah, I've seen. It's kind of neat. I need to watch the Ralph Barbosa one where he was at the Kessler here in town that you and Christina were at, featuring me and Christina. You were on so much Netflix last year. You and Christina were on Netflix Full Swing Golf. We were on full swing, and you were in the
Ralph Barbosa stand up special. Yep, your Doctor, Netflix, Yelp. I'll wait by my mailbox for my residual check check. I think they were sent to Christina's address. That's fine. Hundreds of court documents were released last night, and I believe we have a classic case of the sizzle being a little more than the steak, because I don't know if Aaron Rodgers was popping a bottle of wine or Scotch last night, like you said he was gonna
be as he was highly anticipating these documents. Most of the documents that were made public last night do not include specific episodes of wrongdoing by men other than Jeffrey Epstein. Now there's more to come, the more goad that will be coming out. But one document was from a deposition of an alleged victim. Her name is Johanna Silberg, and she said quote, he said one time
that Clinton likes him young. And she also said that while flying with Epstein, they made an unplanned stop in Atlantic City, where Epstein said, quote, let's call Trump, suggesting that they go visit Trump's casino. And that's all. She just asked for Prince Andrew, She testified. When she first introduced him, he put his hand on her breast. Okay, I know, I laughed a little bit because it's not very funny. Sexual assault not funny at all. Clearly so it's not very But what a weird way to
meet someone. Hey, nice to meet you. Instead of handshake, you go for the double hawk. I guess if you're a prince though, you feel like you can get away with anything. And maybe that's the problem. The power dynamic but that was in the docks. Now, bad news Mikey because there are a couple other names. Oh, I know the one I know, the biggest name involved in this, Bob Greasy. The details are not Scroll all the way down to see if Bob Greasey was the last name
mentioned. Yeah, that's that's insane. Jim Kicks multiple visits to the island. Michael Jackson on the list. But the one that really we're gonna get to Mike is famous magician, magician David coppa feel he's more of an illusionist, right, that's wise of you don't call him David copper Field. Well that's what he is now allegedly the alliance of magicians that I'm in, we don't know how to handle this. Why would David Copperfield pop up? Now?
One thing that is interesting with David Copperfield he owns his own group of Bahamian islands, Moushu K. It's called one of the most exclusive resorts in the world, owned by damn David Copperfield. So I'd like to think he's down there just doing island research, you know, Caribbean tips. But I can't speak his sense of David Copperfield today this girl. You mentioned all these names. It's like they're not found guilty, they're just listed in association with.
Right. We said that yesterday. Like I was sitting there going like, for instance, here at I Heearten a few years ago, and I would not do this. Well, I was saying, no good. Yeah, and I associated with a guy who worked up here years ago on another
show who got popped for child molestation. And I was like, man, saw, I'm in the office every day, and I just said, it is it ikey feeling feeling like you know, right, But if there are records that you guys were hanging out on dozens of occasions and flying together something, that's a different thing. Just because you receive a paycheck from the same
company that something happened to somebody Elseah, that's not the enough association. So she claimed that Copperfield was president at dinner at Epstein's home, where he allegedly quote did some magic tricks. What do you think he is? Rab It out of the hat, don't disparage the dark hearts that I love. And Rabbit out of hat's awesome too. I don't care if it's a punchline. You never see that anymore. Really, you sometimes do you see variations of
it? They try to elevate the rabbit. Yeah, and then it's like, oh, why sir, why don't you lift your hat up and the rabbits in your hat? Right? So, yeah, and you weren't even wearing a hat when you entered the room, right it get there where the hat comes from, the rabbit, put it on. The rabbit hopped up there, and you didn't know. She was asked if Copperfield ever discussed Epstein's involvement with young girls with her. She said, he questioned me if I
was aware that girls were getting paid to find other girls? That's all? So he was at least like, what's going on here? It almost sounds like Copperfield was kind of like, look, I'll take the money and I'll do the magic trick. You all got something weird going on here, And
I bet that's the case for most people. It sounds to me like this Epstein Feller was a social climber, that his wealth wasn't necessarily his that he got who's the guy the one of the sim figures in this that's connected with him, the last named Wexler. Yeah, who is the money guy that somehow Epstein got power of attorney over his estate and was essentially just bleeding his finances. Like that that legendary spot that he lived in in Manhattan wasn't even
it wasn't even Epstein's. It was this Wexler guys. And this was all known I think, like in two thousand and nine. So he was kind of a grifter in his you know, relatively speaking, but he wasn't this self made. You know, he was a social climber. It was all about airs and images and all that stuff. And it would stand a reason. You know that you you know that you you don't know a lot about
this guy. You you see that you know he's this jet setting socialite that's you know, got access to all of this wealth and property and planes. It's like, yeah, I'll go hang up with a guy. And then you kind of get the curtain pulled back a little bit and much like it sounds like Copperfield is doing, He's like, what is really going on here? Dude? Well, I really I don't know. I mean, David
Copperfields a weird dude. Yeah, and he and I don't want to like I'm not labeling any of these people, but sorry, you guys all just showed up on Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. He had a sexual assault thing with a seventeen year old back in the day. Too well. I guess my point is is because of his personality as this kind of New York social social climber, that it would attract I do that that are just completely unknowing of the deep underbelly. So even these names come out, it's not a conviction
that they did bad things. I you know what, I totally agree, And that's kind of what I was thinking yesterday. But then I was just laying around thinking about it, and I don't know, man, I don't know, because yes, he's this financier, and find billionaires hang out with billionaires, do cool s together, like fine, But this dude was like had harems of most many underage girls like that was part of the allure of
what he provides why you do hang out with him. And then we're talking about incredibly wealthy, very popular, old white dudes who are clinging to their youth and whatever this madness is. And that turns you into somebody over time when you're giving all this power and yes, presidents and magicians, yes, and when you run Vegas for fifty years or whatever David Copperfield has. He's sixty seven years old, and he looks like he's had all the work in
the world done. I mean, there's types of people like that. And then you say on the menu is whatever, and we and it's in this private no one will ever know. You know, we're on an island in
the middle of nowhere. And I'm supposed to think that's where you're like, of all the shady s you've got gone through in your life to get to where you are, that that's where hopefully you would draw the line and say no, after you've had a couple of Pappy Van Winkles that are five hundred dollars a glass, you know, and then hey, I want to see the you want to see the dungeon down here? Yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't And then that's where your morality kicks in, like,
Yo, what's wait, what's really going on here? Fly me home? I hope so, but I don't know another name this, And then you go back and you go back again, you go back a bunch of more to repeat visits that. Yeah, it's people I don't want to I'm not labeling everyone on this list, you know, but every single one. When you look at this, like person X claims no wrongdoing. Dershowitz complained because it says no, there's no wrongdoing. So no, everybody's no wrongdoing
except for that dude. Well it's not great for Copperfields. He was alleged pulling a Cosby on a girl back in like nineteen eighty eight, So that was part of a magic trick. Yeah, I get sought and a half. This girl from this deposition or a woman of this deposition, also said that she met She was asked, did you ever meet anyone anybody else famous when you're with Jeffrey? She said, I met Michael Jackson at Epstein's house in Palm Beach. She was asked if she ever massage Michael Jackson. She
replied that she did not. But Michael Jackson now thrown into the list who had previously not been thrown into any Epstein at least not that I had ever seen. And you know, we've seen the allegations with him and child sex abuse. So oh other ones. Though the Clinton thing, I told you, now here's the thing. All these people said, no, we're not going to we didn't know about his abusive behavior with teenage girls or young women.
We didn't know that. Bill Clinton had a statement in twenty nineteen said he knew nothing about Epstein's terrible crimes even though he was a registered sex offender. In the mid two thousands, Trump said he had a falling out with Epstein years ago and said, not a fan. Look that's what he said. Yeah, Well after he had said, okay, look, Bill Clinton like what do you no? Yeah, right, come on, yeah,
what do you think? Yeah? Okay. And so if you would say, Donald Trump, what do you think if your if your reputation precedes you, it does make it a little The light doesn't shine favorably upon you if you're named in that scenario presented out so long ago, that Bill Clinton or Donald Trump and grant Donald Trump doesn't drink famously, So get the Pappy van Winkle out of there. But Bill Clinton's gonna that's where no, no, yeah, And then I'm sorry. But this quote that Trump said about Epstein,
right, it's from two thousand and two. I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said he likes beautiful women as much as I do. And many of them are on the younger side. So I don't forget your political whatever. Read that quote and be like, that's the dude who we're going to say. No, he's the one who said no, not interested. Many, you know, many are on the younger side. And then that's a New
York magazine. But you also have to factor in the not to defend any of these people, but younger in relation to what their age. Yeah, okay, like twenty six, twenty one, eighteen. I don't know. I don't know what it's undefined, what younger means younger than them or are
we talking about illegally young That's what I'm saying. It's like, there's no I'm not saying that the quote is a direct indictment, but I think when you say beautiful women, most fifty something year old billionaires talking about girls in their twenties, he's a nasty bit early twenties even. Yeah. So then when you add the caveat many of them on the younger side, I know you're running out a wiggle room for it to be legal. It's dude,
it's a horrible look. But I don't know if we're ever going to see a defined, clear path to any of these people that are on this list, to a clear path to judgment, you know, to real honest judgment. What's the girl's name? Who was one of the girls, Joanna Soberg? Yeah, okay? How many of them are there? How many girls are talking and saying names and describing Right now, two depositions are public.
There is one that's probably not going to get out because she was, you know, young at the time, and the allegations are pretty bad, and the judges said her privacy supersedes the need to get this out into the public. Now. There are plenty others though, but she had and Jane does. They're calling them okay, but some of these Jane does have said more than what we've seen about specific people and the interactions these people had with them
when they were under eight. My understanding is that's coming, like there are more of these interviews that they're gonna get out okay, good, and the next could be today and that's when things will start to clarify on you did what? Now if many of these girls say, David Copperfield, for instances,
I just want at random to just claims innocent. He was there a bunch of times this nice guy did amazing magic tricks, never had any interaction with them, you know other than that, what about that might lead toward absolving some of the names. But this is just step one. So fine, if you're in the the Nasty House, that's the first thing we need to prove, and then what happened there? Yeah, and then it's just
faber is Isn't it all just based on on testimony at that point? Wasn't there like a treasure trove of was it all this stuff filmed like notoriously? Wasn't Epstein and and Gallaine like Maxwell? Yeah, wasn't there like some type of surveillance videos that were that were kept like a library of this stuff of
these people right and right compromise? Where are those? Because I think that's what it's going to take for a lot of folks to even and gosh, there there there are people that will would see somebody getting serviced by a fourteen year old girl and going, nah, that's not real, that's a that's photoshop. Whatever. It is a different time, it's a yeah whatever. But I think we live in a world where it's just the the testimony is not going to be enough. Check this out. Epstein emailed Maxwell to deny
claims that Stephen Hawking participated in an underage Georgie okay, joints. I did see everyone rushing to every That's the wheelchair meme I've ever seen on the internet. That's the funny one. That's the funny one. To me repeat that. So, he had emailed Glenn Maxwell basically saying, give money to in the voice, dude, your Stephen Hawking voice as you was old? Okay, well and under age RG okay? So who minus eighteen is seventy two?
So is there really an email train of Stephen Hawking? Yeah, requesting an say under age orgy? Yeah requesting? What? So here's what the email Epstein said to Maxwell said, you can issue a reward to any of Virginia's friends. Virginia was another one of the the yeah girls. I was talking friends, acquaints, family that come forward and prove her allegations are false. The strongest is the Clinton Dinner and the new version of the Orgin Islands
that Stephen Hawking participated in an underage orgy. He died in twenty eighteen at seven, age seventy six. Stephen Hawking did don't goodbyee turning out to you. Yeah, how would that even work? It's tough to really picture. But smart man, you're in with with Epstein. The girls do what they are told to do because hey, they're paid to do it and they work there. I don't know, man. Al Gore's name get thrown in there, Kevin Spacey get thrown in there was a few their names. Yeah,
imagine that, right, it's a al Gore one shocking. Al Gore always seemed like a bit of a virgin to me. Yeah, a dead fish or or maybe I mean, who knows it? The others. The way al Gore talked was just so funny. I don't know why. So there's that. To have time for birthdays we want, we'll have more of the anything breaks on the Epstein stuff today. That's gonna be topic de jour. It's the most Kevin Well. We don't miss on that. Yesterday it was
the floor four. Today the Epstein list, and there's a little more. Maybe we'll get to that at eight o'clock when you have a chance to win MAVs tickets. All right, so call two one four eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven one before eight o'clock, okay, And what you will do is you will tell JJ your area of expertise and we'll challenge you there. We'll see if you get it, and then you'll get MAVs tickets.
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