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so just wait. Cowboys hired their defensive coordinator. Finally, that's funny. Tony Pollard was on Radio Row and he was doing an interview with some station. I don't know. Have y'all heard that. He's doing an interview with some station and they were talking about and it's it's real bad, bad sports talk stuff. But they're talking about dan Quinn being gone and he didn't know, Like Tony Pollard didn't have any ideas here. I know, your
guys, defensive coordinator obviously he's got the head coaching gig in Washington. I think you guys are still going through the process right of figuring out who that he might be. What you got? What do you face that defense? You guys have stars everywhere you looked. What do you think, what do you look for them for next year? And who do you think they might bring in? You know, it's crazy. See, I hadn't been on social media like I kind of. I got rid of Oosta ground like be
away through the scenion. How come? How come too much people being negative? I mean being a cowboy. You just have to find ways to keep your mental on point, you know, Yeah, keep the noise out. Did you just find out you lost your defensive coorts? Just found out right now? Oh? Okay, he didn't know. But it seems wild to me that you wouldn't know that. I guess if you're on offense, maybe you don't talk to them as much. It is weird that you wouldn't know
that. It's weird to me. Maybe it's not weird to them. Here throw me cord I want only because they're close to that, and I'll throw it right back at you. Is it tank? No? Okay, no, And it's not even cowboy related to Bards coming football related. Yeah. I just thought it was funny because that almost similar or sort of similar thing happened. Uh Jackson Smith and Jigba, Oh you heard this one? Yes, and I always saw the clips, the full version. But it's pretty
funny. He is from rock Wall, I think right there is. I think he's yeah, maybe whatever. I think he's local. He's local, and he's a stud receiver. Went to Ohio State. First rounder Yeah, Seahawks. Yeah, played for the Seahawks last year and Shane Waldron was I guess their offensive coordinator and he just got hired away to be the Bears. Oh se Right, So they're asking Jackson Smith and Jigba about Shane Waldron, like, what do you think about what are the Bears getting tell him?
Bears fans are super interested about the offensive coordinator coming in at Shane Waldron. What can you tell him about who they just hired to to try to get this offense where it needs to go? This is this is live, We're not live, We're not. Good luck to y'all. I mean he's a great person, Bears man. Good luck to y'all. What do you take from that that he hates his guts or he doesn't know who he is. No, well, no, they didn't know that he was moving on.
No, I think he just didn't like him when he was his coach, he knew what he was doing. Good luck to you, good luck. He's a great guy. He's just live a great person, you man. That's I mean for them to not know. Then the other one is DeMarcus Lawrence, like he was doing a big I forgot who he was on with. I think's the ESPN crew I think, and like what happened to the game is Green Bay. He's like, I think we were burnout? Was a Shannon Sharp think. I think we were just burnt out. Burnout.
It's like, I don't think you could say that. I think I have it right here if you want to hear it. Yeah, burn out. Yeah, it's not long, not great. Your team was here? What happened and why your team isn't here? All honesty. I think the main thing is who's burned out? Man? You know, long season team dominally healthy throughout the season. You know, the les get tired. But also you know you got to give hats south the Green Bay man. They came
out with a great game. Plan, you know, rolling out towards Micah and then running away from me. I feel like, you know, that's that's what they needed to, you know, get their game started. And they jumped on us fast. And what about adjustments? Yeah, adjustments man. You know, I feel like we went in the locker room and you know, we came out, you know, ready with our adjustments, but still didn't go the way that we planted it to go. You okay,
bad answer. I love bad answer. Burntout man, Just burn out man. They're the only ones where burnt out. We're supposed to be done by now. I don't even believe that's that he meant what he was saying. I think he was just looking for words. I agree. I think that happens a lot of times. Yeah, I agree, But I would say, all right, fifty three man roster. Are there how many any? Some many that are like I don't really want to do this for another week? Like I'm rich as f and I got a place in Cabo. The
second this thing ends. I mean, sorry it happens. Someone's thinking it long ass work. We want another week of practice and all this those are twelve hour days they have to I mean all every day listening to people yell at us and these meetings. I mean, like we say sometimes we people are employed, no matter how fun the place is. Yeah, no one will ever say it, you know, but out of fifty three. And the thing is, is one of my actually don't he was just saying things.
But you're you're absolutely right. I've said a million times. Is the common thread is human beings and I don't care. I don't care who you are. And and the argument is, well, they're getting paid millions of dollars to be into it and not cut corners. You can't take the human element out of it, no matter how much money is attached to it. And I think most people given the option will take a little break, right, So come up here and get yelled at fronther weeks unless you're the beach
or go to Vegas or whatever. Sore your body hurt. Yeh. That's why I mean the list of names such as Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, those the ones that are just inherently driven, that never want to take a Dirk for example. They just never want to take time off and they're just laser focused. You know that. That's the anomaly, that's the outlier, that is not the common the common way, there's more. Willie cauley Stein's out there for sure. It's like, hello, next Friday,
when does my paycheck hit? And I kind of get it. Dad, their their day. This kid's underscore because they make a lot of money and they are kind of our puppets, is what they are. Go entertain us. We love football. The days are long as hell, classroom, the atmosphere. I'm telling you, I can't be so many times I can't listen to this dude for another week. He's going to tell me, Oh, I can't. I can't handle it. We're sweating it over. You set the agg you set the edge, old man, what do you ever
do we sweat it? If there's a thirty minute corporate meeting once every quarter, Yeah man, what a meeting? Oh my god, what are they gonna say that we don't already know? Right? These guys every day? Uh uh well they're pretty good honesty. Then if it's true that I do agree that he's in the boat of guys who actually does really care. Mike Zimmer is your defensive coordinator. He is sixty seven years old. Yep.
The thing that I wanted to go to here, because look, until he talks about what he wants to do with the defense and you kind of get a little more understanding of that, it's hard to know outside that he was the coach of the Vikings for eight years. Obviously a defensive coordinator here long
ago. Yeah, but do you know he worked under four head coaches while he was here, god care for like twelve years, Switzer, Parcels, Parcels, Campo and Garrett, A little bit of Garrett maybe Garrett yeah, or chan Gaily yeah, there you go, cham chan so and then mcarthy era here is the Cowboys when it comes to penalties, twenty second in the league, thirty second in the league, twenty fourth in the league, thirty first in the league, twenty two, thirty two, twenty four, thirty
one near the back every single year in the MCRA, Mike Zimmer penalties head coach for the Vikings. The Vikings were the tenth least penalized team. They were the first least penalized team, twelfth, eleventh, second, seventh, eighth, and then twenty fifth. In his last year there, they had a bad team and kind of quit, so I kind of give him a free pass. He kind of knew he's getting fired there too. Whatever, that is seven of eight years being a right around a top ten in some
cases top five least penalized team in the league. The Cowboys and the mccarthurra have been a top ten most penalized team in the league for four straight years, And maybe that helps a little bit on that side, because I do think a hard ass is good, and I do think the thing you say might say about Dan Quinn is that he is kind of your buddy. He's definitely players coach guy. He is a guy who loves it too. He loves going to college. He's going to all these like pro days and meets
the players and hangs out with him. That's what he does, like Dan Conner, be a great college coach. And that's where I kind of go, good, bring in a hard ass. Now that's not really the most exciting name in the world, but I kind of look at it and go, I'm okay with it. So you think hard ass equals discipline equals fewer
penalties. I hope it's worth trying. Yeah. No, I struggle with that one because I remember I read a big article when Legion of Boom was doing their best, and they basically had a policy of like hold like in the secondary, Yeah, hold Sherman is because they're not going to call it every time, and it's worth so much to us when you knock receivers off their routes and hold them and slow them down, like they can't call it
every time. And they had like a philosophy about that, and they were like one of the more penalized secondaries in the league, but they were overall dominant. So I was kind of I've been intrigued by that for years of like what you can get away with? It might be what people are doing to Micah, like right, hold you ever play, then I can call it. They turn as much tape as they want the week after, you know, and you know, pick you pick your you know, third and
two, maybe don't hold him. But like so I almost don't know if it's good to be one of the lowest penaltized teams. I mean, yeah, you yell when it's a massive flag and first downs are awarded and games are decided, But philosophically, I think then goes back to like Stevan doing
stuff right on the edge is probably good like dead ball penalties. I'm going back to Okay, to Marcus Lawrence in the playoff game, jumping off sides on defense and like giving the Packers what would have been a third and goal with the seven turned into a third and goal with the two, and they ran it in I think, or however they scored. It's just like,
Okay, there happened from you the leader. I love that. So no dead ball penalties, I don't know, you know, but Zimmer had Zimmer had a really good record in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins as your best quarterback, I mean, and his time there, right, I have a problem with it. Ron Rivera was not going to be terribly exciting for me. It's I don't know that Ron Rivera was ever that great. But Zimmer's also a made man in the cowboy mafia long standing. You know, there's the key.
Yeah, yeah, there's your answer right there. And he's been cutting the proverbial corner for the last three years. He hadn't seen action since what twenty one, twenty Yeah, it is fourteen to twenty one his coat. Yeah, So that's I don't know if I love that either. But the league moves quick. They had five really good years of being a pretty top flight defense in the league in Minnesota that he had designed and handled and helped
with personnel. So how long was coach McCarthy out of the game before Jerry hired him? One year? One year on, yeah, one and a quarter a year, Yeah, where he clime to watch ever play. That's an interesting trend, you know, Jerry hiring people off the couch that maybe their mind's not necessarily been in football for ye for an extended amount of time. But there was no doubt they were going to hire someone old here, and they were going to hire someone that probably had ties here and all that
stuff. I don't know if it's true or not, but the kind of things that have been floating around of that McCarthy kind of wanted Ron Rivera. Now McCarthy and Zimmer got along fine. Zimmer actually said when McCarthy was fired in Green Bay, Zimmer like was like, hey, I think they made a mistake, which it turns out they didn't because they won thirteen games in a row the next three years after he was gone. But it's kind of a I don't know, there's mutual admiration there. They've seen a lot of
each other through the years, you know, being in that division. McCarthy owned him. But that's an Aaron Rodgers thing probably again as most things are when it comes to McCarthy. There I go, sound like I'm hating on McCarthy again. Class. Here's what we're going to do now, Australian Pink Floyd thing. It's our last ticket giveaway of the week. Here a pair
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