This is a downbeat on ninety seven to one The Freak. All right, it is the Boob Hour here nine pm. I'm sorry, it's nine am. It's at PM and night hours. What are you doing for that Houston trip? But we're back. What's boob hour? The final hour of the show. I've never heard you say that before. It's good thing, man, it's been taken off. It's all over Blue Sky. I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Bayless, Mike Siroy, JJ Jackson producing our show and we we're
gonna have some map stuff. We're the home of the Dallas Mavericks. We have MAVs and Spurs. Tonight eight point thirty here on the Freak. Pregame begins at eight and it's a big night for a lot of different reasons outside the fact that it's opening night. And help get us prepared. As one of our good, good, good good friends. You know him from many things. You might just know him as the Machine Mike, the Machine Marshall live via the technology known as zoom. He is, oh, Mike,
hello, Hello, do you have me there? He is got you loud and clear, good shirt on, some some hip art over his shoulder. I took all those You did take those photos? Yeah, those are mine. That's my film photography in the background for the radio listener, amateur photographer, and he took them from an I stole him from a museum. Actually, Google Haim never heard of it. Yeah, they're still looking for a six or three guy with a big butt. Yeah, yeah, just just
yeats on the back side. Machine's pretty good at hoops. But we said, I don't know. You came up earlier promoting at the six o'clock hour. I know you're listening. I know your wall to wall. Yeah, I was up of course every day. And Machine's pretty good at hoops,
but that's a different category. And then we commented on your giant ass, and Danny said that what he could have said that tonight, that Machine if inserted into the MAVs game as I don't know, small forward, power forward, whatever you want, that he could he could box out win Banyana and get at least three boards. Oh yeah, I'd put him on a seat easy, like box him out to this sideline like he's not touching a ball.
Well, that little stick man, you know, I love you, But I said, Machine would never touch the basketball much less rip three boards, three three boards in seven minutes. Three boards. He was like seven four. That's so unfair. Yeah, but that booty man just muscling out there. It's an odd it's an odd season for the MAVs in the in for the like season opener for tonight's game, which we're stoked for and we're fired up from MAVs. It's weird that, you know, Rangers are still
playing with all these other sports that still huh. It kind of did, but every other year it's like, oh my god, it's maps season opener and the biggest commonation is someone on the other team. So I'm gonna do it much like everyone else and start with Wemby. I know you're probably excited to get your first look at this dude too. So what are your I don't know thoughts expectations on what he is tonight? What he is this season? I mean, are we about to see the greatest one to one in
twenty years? As it's also exactly twenty years to the week that Lebron debuted in the NBA. Yeah, I mean, I think he's gonna be an All Star probably this year. I think the raw numbers and the opportunities and unless he gets injured, right, which for a big man, I think he's done a really good job of staying on the floor and not getting those foot injuries that linger with big dudes. But I think all Star is the expectation for this season. I think twenty and ten and some insane highlights every
single night. Probably the most impactful player or draft pick since Lebron James at the one one. So he's gonna live up to the hype. I've no doubt about that. It's the health, it's the longevity of the it's eighty two games, like even you know, five years into Lucas career, he has some struggles having a balanced season, right or not getting that two to four week absence that comes with it. So it's it's a different game. It's a man's game, and it's it's it is a marathon in every kind
of way. But yeah, I mean he's spectacular. There's no one in the league like that right now. I mean it's it's a combination of you know, he needs to get some touchdown there. But if it's like a Keem size at that generation of the difference that he was from everyone, with that kind offensive skill with giving a crap on defense, which is kind of different from a lot of the American prospects that come out. And yeah, he's just he's one of one man there. There's no one quite like Wimby
in the league right now. You know what, The only person I think of is Chet Holmgren, who's not proven anything. But like, where are the hell are these people coming from? Yeah, yeah, he already Chet already broke his foot ones right, Yeah, so that's he missed his entire rookie season, so he's eligible for Rookie of the Year, which is interesting that he can go head to head against Wimby for Rookie of the Year. But yeah, I mean at the international big man is a different big man
at this point. They just asked them to do different things. I mean, we've got talked about this for years with with Jokic and with i mean even back to Dirk. It's just a different player. They asked them to do different things. They don't make them play like you know, vikings in the post and like pound out offensive rebounds and things like that. Is different style of game. And they played different sports growing up as well. So
it's it's the best. It's obviously the best caliber of big man right now is the international big man. I mean, it's Giannis, it's Embeid, it's Jokich, it's about to be Wimby. So if you can get one, I think it opens up different layers of your game, unlike the American big man right now, who kind of gets ruined by AAU basketball in my opinion. So anyway, there's some nerd talk for you. Will You mentioned Mike that he is no slouch on defense, so no elephant, would you
say that? Take a blame for that. I drove down there last night off. Yeah, I don't want to knock it's late. I'll just yeah. It was more like, what are we gonna order for lunch on Friday? And everyone gets back. It was like that, and then a little bit of like scouting report paperwork in there, but everyone glommed onto that.
But yeah, you don't need everyone's Popeye's order for Friday. You talked about, you know, and obviously the the evolution of the big euro that can shoot the hell out of the ball, But defensively at that size, I don't know a lot about this kid defensively, but does he have the capacity in the upside to be able to be like with with at seven four, to be among the lead leader leaguer, the league leaders in blocks. Oh, absolutely, yeah, he's as a help defender. He will erase possessions.
You won't see him coming, and you'll you'll put the ball in a place where you think no one on the court can get it, and then this giant, giant back comes flying in and takes it from you. That's terrify, Absolutely, that's really yeah. Yeah, it's very scary. And I there was a there was a part of me that died on on lottery night whenever the Spurs got that pick. I was like, Oh, of course it's the Spurs. Of course it's the Spurs. What else do you
need? I mean, you had Tim Duncan, you had David Robinson, Like you're gonna have three of the best, what like six big men in the history of the league. In San Antonio at the Thompson Hotel with their unsecure and the emergency door just wedged open with a fire hight. That would have never happened to a stay America. No, right, couldn't happen. They really were checking us in very It took forever to get in our room at the extended stay. The guard Dog would have kept the scouting report Burgers
for god, Yes, from getting access. So okay, this is by the way, this is Mike Marshall from the Dallas works for the Dallas Mavericks. But he's there. Good for his whole title. Dude, Digital VP of the Dallas Mavericks and more. Is your title change? You're still digital VP. You got any cool new titles you're making? No, not really, just VP of Content. I think that kind of stands on its own, the VP of Content. I was just wondering to see you in the
Dallas Observer Awards, So you know, I'm sure you're doing fun. They're doing your best. I just wonder that they give one away for that. I just wonder after years. I just wonder, after years of being the vice president of digital. You know, if you ever have any intentions of running for president? Yeah, yeah, I got a big campaign launching next year. I'm gonna try and unseat this uh this, this guy whoever that is. There's not a president. You should tell her you're running for a
president next year. Next season. Yeah. Hosting stuff around the office like vote for me, like free lunches in the cafeteria, that kind of cris machine. Cor No, I'm not running with that guy. No, you're insane. Now can we can we talk about what everybody wants to talk about though, Go ahead, So, Mike, we we did it. We did it. We ranch sacked the world series Machine has been on a quest of ranch sack things and he does this arbitrarily, and someone's explain to them
what explained to Danny at least the ranch sacking. Yeah, so it stems from when people get to this is uh, this stems from I think Jake's dad, Danny, Jake Kim's father Chappie, who who uh subtly like turned his home into like a shrine to turquoise and like cowsols and leather, like anyone who moves to Arizona or New Mexico and parts of Texas. For some
you ranchsack yourself, it's self ranch sacking, right for sure. Maybe some art, some barb wired art, perhaps maybe a cow skull with some turquoise and you start wearing bolo ties and like the joke was someone misheard ransacking one time and they thought it was ranch sacking, and they were like, we should go around and prank people and take all the crap off their walls and their tables out of their homes and replace them with Southwestern motifs in their homes.
So show you know, like, yeah, change your whole house into a Southwestern theme. But damn it, you're right. We did ranch sack the whole world series Texas Arizona, and everybody seems to be worried about the Texas Versus Arizona aspect that no one's gonna watch. But I'll tell you what. Those are the two places that Mike Siroy has spent the most hours of his life adult life, probably taking the most poops. Uh So, if you don't like Mike Soroy, then you're not gonna like this world series.
But if you don't like Mike Siroy, you don't like great radio. Yeah, he's the best radio personality in the world. I can't get behind that. If you don't like this world series, that is true. I hadn't thought of my my ties. Yeah, this is the Serroy world series I didn't see in the world. In the Dallas Observer, Vin Talk Kevin pass Out put it won't take long that I met Mike Marshall and Kevin Turner in the very same instant at the very same time. Yeah, yeah, remember
that and fort Worth at the Cooper's Barbecue or whatever. Davis Love the Third, Love the Third credit card his credit card and that cash goes, we should take it back to him, Okay. I was like, I think we should maybe buy some barbecue with it. I mean, it's just here.
Just they're not gonna like ask for ID anymore, just use it and then take it back to it. I mean to see a big enough name where like you take his card up somewhere and they got the counters like, you're not this person in the shadow of colonial Probably you couldn't think so like twenty years ago. Yeah, yeah, when was this twenty ten? So is it like that? Ye? Now, look there both of you in my coaching tree, just succeeding. You got a little Andy Reid's tree going.
Don't you can I ask you because you said Jesus the Mic Story coaching tree that was his first insurn. Yeah I know. Yeah. Now everyone makes more money than me, make more money, So I don't care so much about the paper where I do. I do look at the art, look at those frames. Does the team have like an app that they use for I don't. I don't. I mean two things I think. Okay, does Jason Kidd have a group text with every member of the team only?
And does anyone have to mute it because somebody's Dwight Pole's making heady jokes that nobody else understands. And then and is there an app that the whole league uses where like just as your schedule it could be scouting reports whatever. I don't know, NBA slack, Yeah, they they do. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure every team has group text messages and they kick out the guy that creates a green bubble on the text message that fits
is not invited. Yeah, I'm sure every team. It's mainly for like, hey, the bus is going to be here at this time, but stuff like that. So and then they do have an app. I forget what it's called, but like we had to use it in Madrid in Abu Dhabi for like, hey, content team, y'all are gonna leave with the players at this time. So it was kind of like put in there in the calendar. Yeah, but there's an app. There's an app for that for sure. Okay, how concerned are you that we still well, we
have injury questions with Luca and Kyrie already. Yeah, I'd rather not start the season with injury questions if I had an option, but they didn't ask me. Kyrie injury is not very concerning to me. I think if it was, you know, game forty of the season, he would have played those two preseason games. He probably just had something that didn't feel quite right. So I'm not worried about him at all. Very healthy guy, by the way, like just overall throughout his career, so I'm not not super
concerned about his physical state. The Luca thing, you know, the calf is the latest thing, and I don't know, I don't think he quite knows if it's a side effect of the quad of the thigh. But the quad and thigh thing is going to be there for a while and they're still kind of figuring out a treatment solution for that long term and what that looks like, you know, next month, is it gone or is it going to be a thing the entire year that he just has to kind of like
learn how to play with. But I mean, that's one of the things that makes him special is his start stopability in the force that he can put on his lower body. With whether it be a step back or just a deceleration in the lane, and that's a lot on your hips, on your thighs, and so one has been nagging him for a while and hopefully they
get a solution. I mean, his trainers from I don't know if it's a guy that was at Real Madrid, but the guys that work with him overseas when he's over there are coming over here pretty consistently now to build out a treatment plan and figure out how to get this right. So they're obviously
addressing it in the best way they can. It's just I don't know if it requires rest, you know, I don't know if they know quite yet how to solve it long term besides just shutting him down and doing something like that, which is not an option at this point. If you can play
through it, you play through it. So that's concerning. And if it does, you know, if the calf heels, but then he's compensating in a different way on that same leg or the opposing leg because the thigh feels weird, or he can't do the same movement that he's accustomed to doing, then do you hurt something else? But I don't know they're doing everything they can for it, and hopefully there's a solve pretty soon. That isn't you know, get some rest, That is, hey, do this kind of
treatment and it'll be fine in this amount of time. How is I mean, I guess both of them you've had now a chance to I don't know. Yeah, I wouldn't say you're best friends, but get to know Kyrie a little bit. And he is popolarizing dude in the league for a long time. And I thought last year we all kind of sort of fell in love with Kyrie. We're like, this guy seems very smart and incredibly nice, and he's great on the mic and all these things. So and then
he signs a big old deal. So I guess you're I don't I wouldn't call him first impressions, but your current impressions of Kyrie. And then I guess part two is sort of about Luca. You know, he's been around long enough and you've done a lot of work with him, and I don't
know, I suppose how Luca's head is going into what you're Brillian. So, yeah, his first year was my first year, so this is sixth season that he's going into and so I'll start with Kyrie because I think I've spent more time with him and his management agents or I don't know a manager agent, didn't really getting involved that much, but his representation in him over the last month or two than any player on the team. I genuinely really
liked the guy after getting to know him. He's funny in a way that isn't like, doesn't cut you down, doesn't like he's always kind of laughing at stuff. We had a fifteen or twenty minute interview on media Day that'll drop this week on MAVs YouTube and across MAVs channels. That's just me and him, like I'm just throwing, you know, not fastballs, but stuff
like hey, you know, explain yourself. You know, here's a fresh start, like try and you know, build whatever image you want to build a Kyrie to this fan, here's an open platform, here's the space to do that. And it was awesome. It was really really good. I mean, you're supposed to Elyn get ten minutes at media Day with each player, as you will know, Mikey and he was in our room for nineteen minutes just wanting to talk about the things I was trying to ask him about
and so extremely thoughtful, been great to us here. You know, the stuff in the past, I don't. He alluded to it a little bit in the interview of you know, there is this kyrie like cosplay or this kyrie like painted on image that a lot of people have, and that's just either him from a different scenario or what people want to put on him.
And so I get it. I mean being teammate of Lebron, Like the second you walk into the league and you're supposed to be on this level and you're a global icon at you know, eighteen nineteen years old and you get the biggest shoe deal ever, and it's just there's a lot. But whenever you like actually get to talk to a person that has that much with him, I don't know if it's mystique, I don't know what it is, but he's got this this layer of like you don't feel like you could ever
really know him know him. But that went away really quick. He opened up very quickly and was like, Hey, let's talk about all this stuff you want to ask, Let's dive into these different issues. And he's just a really smart, really well spoken, kind thoughtful person and his management has changed over the last year. He's getting different kind of guidance. He's on a different kind of path than I think he was in Brooklyn or even prior
to that. So I'm not going to say, like, you know, he's almost thirty, I'm not gonna say he's gonna be completely different, changed person. But man if I didn't know anything of that previous stuff that had been reported, right and it's not first hand account, Like I would love the guy like from moment one, just per no interactions with him have been spectacular, Like he's great. He would show up to things in Madrid and
in Abu Zabi that no other player was at. He would just come and want to hang out and meet the people within the organization and just sit there and talk to you and like go to breakfast with you and bring his kids. He's got a I think he's got a one year old, and his other two kids were there, and he would just like bring his kids to breakfast and come sit next to you. So I really really like the guy.
I hope he's super successful here, and I hope he uh turns into a leader for the younger, younger guys in the team, because every single one of them said like, it's really weird having that guy on the team because that's who I looked up to, that's who I wanted to be in this game, and then he's sitting there on the bench. And as far as Luca, I mean, I think what everyone's kind of outline and filled in picture that they paint for themselves of Luca is is kind of accurate.
I mean, he's just a He's a big kid. He loves to have fun with the game. He loves to have fun during practice. Like if it's not bringing him joy, like he will eliminate it, whether it's in his life or in his routines. But he is obviously obsessed with the game, loves playing basketball, has some other interests, but I mean that's kind of been his life for geez what the last like twelve thirteen years. Is growing as a leader, I think in the organization and I'm the roster in
a way that is organic, right, It's not forced. It's not hey get up there and say something in front of the team and do the raw ra stuff. Like they don't ask him to do things like that because it
wouldn't be genuine for him. But I think they're his dynamic with Grant Williams has been fun to watch because Grant is the always talking guy and not always like calling you out for anything if you're slow to get back on defense, if you didn't make their I read or something like So Grant's bringing something out of him that I think is really it's really funny to watch during practice and
throughout games and stuff like that. But I mean, Lucas just one of the most talented human beings on earth physically, and all players reach this point in their career in which it is like, my effort level right now and how many hours time, whatever it is I want to put into this thing
can make me one of the best in the league right now? Do I want to go psycho mode and commit even more time or more you know, diet things, or more treatment, or more off season or more studying to become the absolute best to eliminate any question of am I the best in the league? And some people physically can't do that. Some people can't do that
discipline wise, some people can't do that for a lot of reasons. They're just you know, you could practice every hour of every day with a certain kind of you know, body type or something that's not going to matter. But he has that. I think everyone knows that, and that's why people are predicting him for MVPs this year. Predictan the MAVs have a big bounce back season. We'll see how big that is. It's largely not even contingent on him at some point, Like he's gonna do what he does and he's
going to be the offensive engine. It's is the defense around him good enough? Can they make enough threes whenever he does kick the ball out? But I think what you see of Luca is him like he is looser around the teammates, He is goofier around the teammates. He does like talking about anything but himself more than he likes talking about himself. So I feel like you
don't get the best version of him in like media scrums. But he's you know, he's a basketball savant that's extremely, extremely talented in one of the most unique players that's ever played the game. So people criticize are quick to criticize him for everything, and it's like, Okay, would you rather have somebody else? Like what's the what do you what's the what's the knock there? Like imagine the team without him. Imagine a play that's seventy five percent
of him. So Dirk went through it obviously where he had to go like start change his routine and just look inward and be like, hey, maybe everything I'm doing isn't the exact correct thing. And I think he did a lot of that this offseason. And regards to Luca, in regards to his body, he looks great. I'm bummed you'll haven't got to see a lot of him tonight because of the calf. Yeah, tonight, hopefully, hopefully. I think I think I'll be fine. That I hy Am Machine.
We need to stay on the watch for any developments with the missile situation, so we gotta go. My guy, I've been been on this watch for ten years now and I'm just waiting for somebody to send me an update on that email. Thank you for the time machine. Will talk to you soon hopefully and see you soon and tomorrow. Thanks to do the whole am I, the guests, guest picking games. We haven't m uh if you want to be yeah, if Marlin, if Marlin's man falls through, expect to
call. Okay, I'll be out there ready alongside the missile situation. I'll be on call for both. All right, there he goes. It's Mike. Let's go soon, he'll never know. Let's get tacos soon, brom Hell yeah. Coming up next, we get you your message from that heart radio app, your talkbacks next to nine seven won the Freak