You're listening to the Downbeats on ninety seven to one The Freak. Let's get right into this, Jimmy Kimmel and Aaron Rodgers. This is a big deal here. I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Baylis and Mike Siroy JJ Jackson producing the show today. Check out some of your talkbacks in the iHeartRadio app. In a second, we have Dallas Mavericks basketball tonight on The Freak as well. John Morant out for the season. There it's twenty five games suspended, played
nine and done for the years. Torn is laboram. They're kind of out of it anyway, so go ahead and rehab that and get ready for next year. So should be an easy one to take care of business. You can listen to match tonight here on The Freak Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Kimmel. I'll make you context here. This is the joke from last week that Aaron Rodgers, well joke, the statement Aaron Rodgers made last week on the Pat
McAfee show. Let me turn my volume up here we go. A lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, are really hoping that doesn't all right talking about the Epstein. So you know, right, a lot of freaking out there. Now again, just for full context, here's Jimmy Kimmel his diss on Aaron Rodgers back in February of twenty twenty three that we think might have sparked this. There's some files that have some names either might be getting released
pretty soon. Oh oh, i'd be time to revisit that concussion protocol, Aaron. That's a slight jab and that's what we think sparked Aaron Rodgers to make that comment. I will say Jimmy Kimmel had taken more shots at Aaron throughout that whole vaccine storyline with Aaron. Okay, So Kimmel had his first show of the year last night and he opens it up with this. This is about a minute long. And then it did come out, And of course my name wasn't on it and isn't on it and won't ever be on.
I don't know Jeffrey Epstein. I've never met Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not on a list. I was not on a plane or an island or anything ever. And I suggested that if Aaron wanted to make false and very damaging statements like that, we should do it in court so he could share his proof with like a judge. Because you know, when you hear a guy who won a Super Bowl and did the all the state farm commercials say something
like this, a lot of people believe it. A lot of delusional people honestly believe I am meeting up with Tom Hanks and Oprah at Shakey's once a week to eat pizza and drink the blood of children. And I know this because I hear from these people often. My wife hears from them, my kids hear from my poor mailman ears from these people. And now we're hearing from lots more of them thanks to Aaron Rodgers, who I guess believes one
of two things. Either he actually believes my name was going to be on Epstein's list, which is insane, or the more likely scenario is he doesn't actually believe that. He just said it because he's mad at me for making fun of his top knot and his lies about being vaccinated. Okay, sounds a little bit of a kickback there. Now he went on this again. It's like a seven minute thing, so I cut it down, and really we've got only two or three minutes. So he saw that and maybe to
retaliate. He decided to insinuate that I am a pedophile. This is how these nuts to do it. Now you're a pedophile. It's their go to move, and it shows you how much they actually care about pedophilia. But here's the thing. I spent years doing sports. I've seen guys like him before. Aaron Rodgers has a very high opinion of himself because he had success
on the football field. He believes himself to be an extraordinary being. He genuinely thinks that because God gave him the ability to throw a ball, he's smarter than everyone else. The idea that his brain is just average is unfathomable to him. We learned during COVID somehow he knows more about science than scientists. A guy who went to community college then got into Cal on a football scholarship and didn't graduate. Someone who never spent a minute studying the human body
is an expert in the field of immunology. He just put on a He put on a Mat Jake helmet, and that gm made him a genius. Its Aaron got two a's on his report card. They were both in the word Aaron, okay easy. You know he's going in too hard is he. I didn't think so. I thought he could have ripped him to shreds if he wanted to. But I thought I thought he took it pretty easy on him. Now Here is where he has laid out, and this is
a almost a way to call off the dogs. And we will see because Aaron is allegedly going to be on Pat McAfee today for his paid appearance. He said, tune in and he will have the he will have the potential, he will have the opportunity to apologize. Kim Hal lays it out right here, dude, just apologize and it's over. And I actually think this is a pretty I think this is a pretty baller move by Kimmel. Who I thought Kim. I thought he took it a little far on Twitter saying
we could take it to court too. I thought that was a little much. I do think this is a power move. We are when you are in a position to just take the high road and then do it to an audience of people who are there to see you. People are on your side here and just to go, look, this doesn't have to go on any longer than you want it to. This hamster brained man thinks he knows what the government is up to because he's a quarterback doing research on YouTube and listening
to podcast I looked it up. This is actually a thing. It's called the Dunning Kruger effect. The Dunning Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. In other words, Aaron Rodgers is too arrogant to know how ignorant he is. They let him host Jeopardy for two weeks. Now he knows everything. And by the way, I'm not one of those people who thinks athletes and members of the
sports media should stick to talking about sports. I think Aaron Rodgers has the right to express any opinion he wants it. But saying someone is a pedophile is not an opinion. Nor is it trash talk. Sorry, Pat macke And as far as the well you say things about people all the time, argument goes, yes, I do. It's not the same. It's not even close to the same. We say a lot of things on this show.
We don't make up lies. In fact, we have a team of people who work very hard to sift through facts and reputable sources before I make a joke, and that's an important distinction, a joke about someone. And when I do get something wrong, which happens on rare occasions, you know what I do. I apologize for it, which is what Aaron Rodgers should do, which is what a decent person would do. But I bet he won't. If he does, you know what I'll do, I'll accept his
apology and move on. But he probably won't do that. My guess is he won't apologize. I hope them wrong. That's how I think it will. So I don't know if he'll apologize or not. One thing I'll say, I do agree. There's a lot here because Kimmel isn't a worlder, He's a comedian. He does make fun of people. He is right though. They have lawyers and they do not want to get sued for defamation ever. Our Stripmall, Steve's sister works for John Oliver, and I've talked to
her. The podcast are a long time ago and the amount of research slash lawyering that goes on on shows like that, comedy shows like that, Yeah, it would blow our minds. John Oliver, Yeah, because that's not just when they do deep twenty three minute dives on one topic, but anyway, yeah, you're right. Well, no, it's it's the same way for community. They don't want to assue. They we can't make this joke. It's too much. They could throughout a you know, it's a slanderous
slander, definite defamation. Whatever the difference is on the point of all that is though, is he said, though, it's not trash talk. I'm sorry, Pat McAfee. That was good. And I love that these people all work for the same company. I just I full love it. So it's not trash talk. I'm sorry Pat McAfee, And he is right there just going, oh you're a protofoil. Oh yeah, better not be on the list. That is not trash talk. That's stupid and terrible and it
shows that you're a dumbass. So like I do one hundred percent agree with that. When you fall back to the cookie cutter dish of euro pedophile, that's bad. Kim's tweet is a lot like I almost Kim almost could have waited until this night and done it, because it comes out a little better when he says it, you know, And he worked in a few clean jokes there, but I I don't I know I feel like I know Aaron
Rodgers toole. Aaron Rodgers ain't apologizing. No, of course, he'll apologized to Pat McAfee, he will apologize to ESPN, he might apologize to Disney. He may do that, or I'm sorry if you were offended. Yep, that old move. For me. It was a joke, like, I'm sorry you don't understand. Yeah, because he probably thinks he's hilarious and I'm sorry you're stupid. Thought he was on another comedy show that's sports reliant and yeah, on McAfee show. But I'm sorry that you didn't understand the
joke. Yeah, yeah, a big But Kimi called him a hamster brain in the same part of the monologu where he asked for the apology. That pretty much ensures that Aaron Rodgers is not gonna calmly, take a deep breath and apologize to the man who has called him that. Hey, Kimmel may not want Kimmel may not even want the apology. Kim Will probably doesn't want the apology. He probably just wanted to do that and look great by doing it. Just apologize it. It's over good, Go ahead, you do
it. So like, but here's one thing I do know about Aaron Rodgers, and this is, by the way, part of the reason I think Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy's Green Bay tenure didn't work out or ended up not working out and won a Super Bowl. Okay, so it worked out one year, But like part of the reason they broke up is because you have two guys who are unaccountable and they just do not They're not responsible for their actions. Aaron Rodgers will lie for no reason. He will say that there
was no communication with people. Aaron Rodgers is not going to directly apologize to Jimmy Kimmel. May apologize for the situation, he is not apologizing to Jimmy Kimmel today. There's no way. Aaron Rodgers doesn't think he has anything to apologize for. He didn't call Jimmy Kimmel a pedophile. He didn't say that Jimmy Kimmel's name was on the list. He just said, Jimmy Kimmel, you might be interested or watch out, Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, look, I might be on the No, he didn't know. Do you have
it? Yeah, listen, listen to listen to this in the literal uh with a literal ear. A lot of people, Jimmy Kimmel are really hoping that doesn't clearly just a joke with your buddies. Yeah, and Jimmy's point is right, don't if you want to joke about something, don't joke that I'm on the Epstein List. And that's one of Jimmy's first jokes in the audio you played, was him sort of implying that just the fact that you would throw that out as a joke knowing minimizes what you think of the Epstein
List and pedophilia. But it's like it's being thrown about flip flippantly. Yeah.
Yeah. But the thing is is, is Aaron Rodgers even cognizant of the fact that he has sick of fans that are far are wilder nut jobs than he is, where he's kind of on the spectrum of that, there are people that are hardcore that will interpret that as reality where you have people's that Yeah, he's got to know that, So there is I think there is a certain element of responsibility to know that if he says something like this, the people that are like that look at Aaron Rodgers is kind of the
torch bearer for their movement, their Cue movement or whatever it may be, are going to take that seriously because they're already brainwashed. So anything you just add on to it is just going to be allowed into their their their mindset, and their belief system anyway. So yeah, I think there's a little bit of responsibility on Aaron's part, but I don't think he's gonna apologize. I don't think in his mind he said anything wrong. I guess I'll see
the data Joe. A world where Kimmel wants this to go away very quickly as it totally. Last week people were re Matt fighting old bits that wouldn't quite age well, you know which you know there's something too, like something he did twenty years ago, depending on what it was. Right. Let me ask you, Kevin, if you handed Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers the exact same Scholastic aptitude test, the SAT test, who do you think would
score higher? Aaron Rodgers? You do? Absolute community college and then yeah, football scholarship, Yeah, okay, I do. And the reason I don't think Aaron Rodgers us No, I think he's an intelligent person. Oh tell you know what, when it comes to no blanket statements Kevin, But when it comes to athletes, I think he I should be one of those smarter. I mean, the football IQ on this dude was nuts. Football
IQ way different than a world IQ though. I have a little little things about like managing a clock and timeouts and at the end of hads and things like that, you know, the stuff that we kind of see. Dude Rogers handled all that very well and covered a lot of that up. You don't think he has any political aspirations, do you. I don't think so. I think you would have liked the Jeopardy job. I think he would have really been interested in that. I don't think he doesn't. I actually
don't. I don't think he really leans a certain way either. Imagine he's libertarian. Yeah, I think so. That's kind of be all encompassing. Yeah. Yeah, he's a Buddha guy, you know, or once the world see of his Buddha guy, you know. But I don't know, we'll see if it ramps up anymore. Hanging a couple of somebody with a voice like he has that is brainwashed to a large degree, I think that can sound smarter than he really is. That's that's a big weapon. Man.
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is a message. This also brought to advanced air restoration. Honestly, come on, this is the first year that McCarthy has gotten to run his plays, run Dak through his quarterback school, and now DAK for the first time ever, is being mentioned as MVP possibility. McCarthy is turning the ship around, and the ship's turning around, Kevin, I love you. Otherwise the ship's turning around on me. Let him finish. He didn't, That's all
he had. It's a weird spot to end a sentence. That's hard to know and fire off another one if he did something right, though, Kevin, Kevin, he's got Dak in the MVP conversation and we got Ceedee Lamb in the best receiver in the sport conversation. What do you have to say for yourself? Now, Kevin, Dak's been in the MVP conversation, but for okay, first of all, flimsy, but what else? Let me just say, why did it take till week seven to go? You know
what, Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks are on the team. Okay, well why now the offense works? It took if we're we saw the image of Ceedee Lamb and he as we know, and you will hear again on Sunday. Not a diva about it. I have to McCarthy said, get me the f and all right, well, don't put McCarthy in that old school coaches box and won't listen. You do it my way. He listened, and he said, Jesus, you're right. I need to get Ceedee Lamb
the ball and he leaves the league in target. Do you think on a week to week basis, the Cowboys are the more prepared, least likely to be penalized team? Quick? You feel little reasons that might support the argument. I feel good about twelve wins every damn year? Do you feel good about the game? Every other team in the sport would basically kill for double digit wins to be insured, much less twelve wins. Do you feel good about it? Cowboys settling for a fifty three yarder at the end of every
half. I mean you can second guess. We'll just watch a game closely and find stuff's the second guess. Gay, that's not hard to do. It's a hard job. Kevin hosting the Globes. Mike McCarthy have that job. And macarthy's soft bitch boys. Yeah, McCarthy has less time to prepare for Sunday's game than your boy did to get ready for the Globes. We should do a couple of playoff brackets here, and we should do one that's simple based on which quarterbacks better, do one that's based on which the head
coach is hotter or or harder. Yeah, because you know, you look at the Packers, you definitely have a soft bitch boy looking head coach and Matt Lafloor. Yes, a guy looks like he should be in GQ, you know, doing some modeling against m McCarthy, who does not look like he's ever modeled ever. Yeah, I mean you would end up with Mike McCarthy at and read. I think I couldn't map that out if we're going to buy hard men. Yo. So I saw a new story this morning
that they actually found the doorhole plug hidden inside of Jeff Kavanaugh's dresser. I don't know. Was that how the freak gotten in the Dallas Morning News today, So I don't know, leaving it out there to hit her in his dresser, So I don't know. During the game last night, did anybody notice that the pop Tart mascot was up at the booth with all the celebrities,
jealous celebrities, the celebrities getting to hang out. Yeah, Travis Scott, Michael Jordan, Derrek Jeter and the pop Tart in a sweet celebrating depends on the flavor, but yeah, the pop Tart Bowl was incredible. I kind of missed it, but I saw Twitter blowing up about support for pop Tart Man. Well, the game sucked, but the the what was he just popping it out everywhere all over the Plus he smacked a ref on the
ass. But then before he killed himself is he goes into a toaster is a massive He holds up a sign that says dreams really do come true and then jumps into a toaster and he slides out and outsides a huge, like ten foot pop Tart cake. Okay, and it's like as if it was him killing himself and the players just start eating it. If the winning team start eating it, that's fantastic, really fireworks. He went in there with a sign like the sign coyote falling off a cliff. Dreams do come true?
Or dreams really do come true? It's I didn't know that so good, and it's they're gonna bring it back, dude, They're gonna recreate it next year with another one. I'm gonna send you guys the picture that I made there. If y'all have seen this right, surely I just sit you guys the text. That's what he looked like. He's holy Us assigned to the crowd before he jumps in the toaster, basically incinerating himself. It's awesome. Dreams really do come dream Look he's strawberry flavored too. Yeah he was
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