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with Mike Siroy. I don't like how you. I don't like how those sentences work together. I would say nothing. Can you only say that nothing involving the underage girl part? Well, thanks, but there's something there, and I do think it could be a get rich fast scheme and I'm interested, very interested, And we'll discuss in a second. First of all, the Twin Sopranos ended. Yeah, we just got one with a big fast sun famous about the twenty fifth anniversary of the Sopranos, which is today.
Yeah, we never got to the final episode, which I think deserves certainly a few minutes with discression. Like I said, when I first the first episode saw it was the last episode, I went to a watch party and I remembered it, and obviously it was such a talking point. Everybody had opinions, and I watched the whole season with that almost just in my head.
That one final I knew how it was going to end, and upon rewatch man, I cried in the last episode, knowing that it was coming, and maybe it was the expectation of it coming, and it was really weird. I was more I mean, I'm gonna I'm an easy crier, and movies and stuff, but it got me really good and it was just
beautiful and I kind of love it. I know. At the time it was so controversial and people were so mad, and then the whole overstated cliche of everyone thought their cable went out, you know, but anytime you can end a series that's that good, And I wonder how the series would be rated if it wasn't for that controversial ending. Still very well, but had they ended it some other way, some overt way, if it wouldn't be number one on a lot of these lists. Because it was such a controversial
and cool, open ended a kind of way to end it. I think that's what made the whole series so unique. I think it's one of the hardest things to do in television, movies, sketch comedy is to stick the landing. And if you can do what David Chase did right there is kind of leave it ambiguous where everybody's talking about it, but in your heart of heart, you know what happens right, and that's the finality. There's no epilogue, you know, there's no what's in the future for it. Now.
It just ends. And because that's how life is, you know, you're here one day and gone the next, and you just don't know when that day is going to come. I don't know. I think it was I thought it was perfect. I absolutely loved it. I can see why people got mad. But if you're going to end that thing and you're not going back to it, that was the perfect way Landing was stuck. A show that's smart doesn't need a spoon fed ending with bang bang no no.
Yeah, yeah, that's that would be weird. But just to watch it again, and I watched right after I watched it a few you know, recaps and thoughts, and he says early on, I think in season one, you know, he talks about the one you never see coming, you'll and you don't hear a thing, and then there's some teasers throughout the course
of the show about not hearing things, and whatever hear thing happened. He's in there, you know, the bell ringing, the Pavlovian bell that keeps ringing, watching people come in and seeing everyone he loves come in, and that music, which was an interesting music choice, and then it just black. I mean art, dude. It's a pop culture talking moment too that will never be forgotten. So you have that as well. You'll never hear
like, don't stop believing by Jersey. You've seen that show, you're going to think about that that diner scene and I almost played the whole song too. Upon seeing it. I was like, the music started early, and I knew there was some plenty of time left, so they let it build. Oh my Meadow comes in late, you know, and she has trouble parking. Yeah, and that's ten incredibly and you're like, it's something gonna happen to her. Yeah, a big stack of onion rings and then pause,
that's on the table going down too. There's also again I put off watching that show for over twenty years just because well I guess when the show ended at five or oh six, which came on I'm in high school. Well that's ending nine longer than that. Okay, I thought either way, I was in college not having really a lot of access to HBO. Point is, you know what happened though you're hearing what happened, and that prevented
me from ten plus years from seeing it. Just thought I know what happens though, I know that's how it and that's dumb and that's stupid, but we do that. I think. I think, well, that's like like anything, until you start, like getting immersed into something, you don't fully understand it, or you pretend like you or you know what. This may just be a male thing, but maybe I think it's a little bit of everyone. You just kind of think you know more than you do a lot
of the time. I know I suffer from that sometimes, and it's like you have this week. No, Well, I'm a beast and I'm correct about a lot of things. That's the other thing. But like, yeah, if you just dive into something and you realize, Okay, this is great and it is deep and it's layered and it's a great show. I don't know if it wouldn't make a That's not one of my top ten favorite
shows, but it's probably one of my top ten like best shows. You know, See what David Chase did is the ultimate in because you described that last scene. It's a piece of art, right, yeah, Like it's a painted and what he did is a beautiful piece of television art. If you can say that, I'm gonna say it and the whole series that way. It's a beautiful piece of art that somehow got enough mass appeal to get enough eyes on it and enough people to like it to where it is historical
now. And I think that's a great achievement for someone who creates, because typically if you make a piece of art that has that much density to it, it's most folks just don't get it. You know. They want stuff that's a lot easier to digest. They don't really want to think about things. But he made a show that was incredibly entertaining to the masses too. He kind of checked all the boxes. And that's just it's his legacy,
you know, it's a legacy for damn near everybody involved in it. You were talking about off air, who else in that show that was of any relevance whatsoever, has gone on to do anything anything at all, much less anything that rivals their contribution to the Sopranos. Yeah, and they didn't. No Falcon really Yeah, eighty Falcon was great, and she won Emmy's for Nurse Jackie. And she's just you know, she's a great actress and will always work if she wants to. Uh. Michael Imperioli, he had a
career before that. He was Spider and Good Fellas if you remember. But he's you know, gone on to do great things since then as well. But the vast majority of people that appeared in Sopranos, that's all they've ever done. Yeah, and you know what, if I was one of those people, I'd be okay with that. I think Drea di Matteo was on OnlyFans now. I think you're right. She is story still married to Waylon Jennings, boy shooter. She was hot then and now Kevin all right,
So I guess the story we we do before we get some talkbacks. This involves Wander Franco. He is the shortstop of the Tampa Bay Rays. They signed him to a one hundred and eighty two million dollar contract. He basically left the team in June. In June or July and the summer, he was forced to leave because of allegations that he was in multiple improper relationships.
In fact, he had a sexual relationship with the fourteen year old girl that was the allegations, while paying her mother thousands of dollars in exchange for consent. Those are the allegations or the true or not? No, no, but what this has done has damaged the value of his once desired autographed baseball cards. Now, this is just some card experts talking here. That's a unique situation where you're dealing with an active player who was heavily collected and sought
after, one of the five Golden Boys in baseball. People were banking on him, and his value index declined seventy seven percent in the year twenty twenty three. So if you wanted to flip it, well, first of all, they did. They did the whole thing on Like vintage cards is the safe way to go, because your opinions of Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson probably aren't going to change. But a twenty nineteen Wander Franco card, it was a Bowman chrome gold refractor. I don't even know what all that means.
But you might your brother, you and your brother in the collectible network. It was bought four all round up here forty five hundred dollars last June, graded or not okay, a rare twenty nineteen Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Auto Franco card bought for forty five hundred dollars last June, sold for nine hundred and thirty dollars in October. Damn so lost all that value today could possibly be
under nine hundred bucks. It was on the market, so no charges have been filed formally, and this could just be not true, right, so that the option like they used examples of Kobe Bryant, no J. Simpson like, people didn't just start getting rid of their cards of those guys. You held on to it. But with the Franco thing, another thing that they're doing on the market is buying cards of these guys who have had allegations, right, and then you store them away because it's just like reverse,
you know, just reversing the market a little bit. So if the values are down eighty or ninety percent, I'll just buy it for cheap. Who cares? And if the story turns out to be bs and he's back and he's a Hall of Famer, then my card's gonna be worth a ton of
money. And I just thought that was right down the alley of our friend Mike Siroy here, who owns a Josh Giddy card, the guard for the Oklahoma City Thunder, who, quite frankly, this story has been out of the headlines for about a month and a half now when there are allegations of him having sex within underage girl. Yeah, and he's kept playing and the
stories kind of went away. Well, when people talk about the Oklahoma City Thunder, they talk about them playing positionless basketball and scoring one hundred and twenty five points a game and being one of the top three teams in the Western Conference. They're not only talking about Josh Giddy much. Yeah. Do you
ever think about selling your Giddy cards? I have a massive collection of Josh Giddy cards, not since the great Ohio state wide receiver David Boston did I. Yeah, if you want to really waste some time, I'll bring my entire David Boston collection in It will cover this table. That's ridiculous. I was positive David Boston was going to change the National Football League. Him and
Jake Plumber. I got his autograph at at Cardinals training camp up in Flagstaff, Arizona, on the exterior of a graded card because I was so sure you were jaded by geography, weren't you. No, Well, I liked him prior to that, but not since then have I invested in a single player as much as I've invested in Josh Giddy, long before these allegations came
about. But it's funny because I have a spreadsheet and Excel spreadsheet with all my Josh Giddy cards and the date I bought them and exactly what I paid
and what they are very organized, which is odd for me. I'll tell you this on a what month is eight August August ninth of last year, I bought a Josh Giddy Panini Prism Silver Prism Rookie card graded PSA ten that's kind of the classic perfect It's not autograph, but it's kind of like it's like the classic great best card of his and I bought it for three hundred and twenty two dollars, graded PSA ten, and then I The last purchase
of any Giddy card I made was on August twenty sixth of last year until six days ago, when exactly what you're saying is I was perusing the prices and they have plummeted and I bought I bought another exact version of that Panini Prism silver Rookie card PSA ten for one hundred and twenty nine dollars. So I paid three twenty two four months ago. So they've dipped to almost what
sixty percent exact same card one hundred and twenty nine dollars. Yeah, And because now it's like, if you believe in the dude, he's still twenty years old, he's super young, and just like Kobe, I don't know that Josh Giddy's gonna lead that kind of career, but allegations if either proven incorrect or are forgotten over time, if he leads the Thunder to multiple titles orchestraded somewhere, I mean, I think it can turn around for the value
of his stuff. And I'm so invested already. Why wouldn't I just a little more into exponentially cheaper cards that I was buying four months ago. That's fascinating though, Yeah, because if you have all those, you spent thousands of dollars on the wonder Franco because he was, as they said, one of the five Golden Boys of baseball, which you know our buddy Kavanaugh bought. I want you to Evan Carter cards and chick, but God forbids something
and it won't because he seems like a good kid. Yeah, but God even happened Evan Carter. They's like, what do you do? And the strategy to go under an undercut it. I might as well load up on these guys who are have off the field issues. Yeah. A few months ago, I very much wanted Josh Giddy to make national headlines. Yeah, but that's not for that, That's not the kind of head And well, I want to congratulate you. Want to officially congratulate you right now for not
being involved Thank you with Josh Giddy or or Wander Franco. Just wanted to put that out there. There was speculation being involved in that type of you. I just I'm glad that to know now since you have no involvement with underage girls. Mikey yep, Yeah, okay, So let's use the h I get some talkbacks, uh this much about Almo draft House Cinema. I'm Dan McAfee. The draft House dot com is, uh where you can get your tickets to Alamo Draft House five locations in the Metroplex, also the home
of the Let's Freaking Chill series that we do. But in skin we'll have the next movie of the Month being announcement coming on that soon. I would imagine to kind of see when the next one is. So, uh, let's get right to these talkbacks brought to you by the Advanced Hair Restoration and here we go. Yeah, I just wanted to shout out to y'all and tell y'all that I'm right there with you about the thought of technology getting to
the point where we're gonna have personal drones taking his places. And I've already thought about this quite a bit, and we should call him helicopters. Okay, we'll test it. I like it. I like a big, long set up. I love the awkward silence that he left in at the end of his phone call. A little buffer perfect. Okay, So, Roy, it's gonna be funny when you take off of your personal drone to head to work and all of a sudden, your drone takes off north starts heading
towards light farms, and then his game room. Ben is hysterically laughing going Haha, he's finally gonna have to play call of duty with me. I don't need Ben with the ability to hack your drone to fly me to his house and tumped me off in the front yards distance. And the only way to get you back home safely is to do one full round of cooks. And Ben's just standing shirtless in his front yard with his controller in his hand, laughing maniacally. Shirt look at you now. Sharon has to have a
poster of Randy Rhodes on the wall so she can make love Dawsie. That a rock joke. Yeah, I'm gonna have a Harry Styles album and a salad delivered by drone to Dinghu's house. Salad like these nice short ones too. By the way, short ones much better chance of getting on the air. Hey, what's up, guys. You said to do a talkback if it's your first time doing a talkback, So here you go. Love you, Hey, dude, that's that's all you had to do. That's good. There we go. Hey Danny, you're right, I grew up in
the country. You see that drone, you'd be like, hey, look that's going to Dwayne Lee's house. You know it's got SIGs and booze on it. You get the fishing net, I'll shoot it and you catch the stuff the fishing net. Boy, I thought of just the fun of shooting down drones. That gotta be a good shot, not to shatter the bottle of Kentucky Deluxe though right, I didn't think of the porch piracy angle of it makes way more sense. Absolutely, you have floating gifts. At least
the drivers. Now you know, we'll try to at least hide your stuff if you have like a partition or a plant. You know, they don't want your stuff to get ripped or nicked. Well, okay, tomorrow we're gonna have a little fun with a super wild card pump session at eight am. The history of the Cowboys and pack in the playoffs that involved some wild on the field speeches, and I mean I went through this last night and it's nuts, and I think you guys are gonna love it. Tomorrow eight
o'clock will do that. Oh yeah, we'll see if we have picks with Glenn's, might make some alterations and things like that, and just have fun getting you ready for Cowboys and Packers and all the other things that need to happen in the world. We're gonna be all over it. All things that do happen, not things that need to happen, All things that do happen in the world will be all over it. So tired for JJ Jackson, for Mike's Roy for Nanny Bayliss. I'm Kevin, Danny. I think it's
your day. Yeah, Police, Navi, Dad, little Sailor. See. I went high energy early in the show and then the low energy came. I prefer a balanced attack, but the energy is the problem. By sid Want six am