You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety seven to one, the freak. All right, here we go. Let's do this. Hit the post, you know, right, and get it correctly, so I'll shut up for a minute. He already kind of blew. It takes a long time to get there. Where's the post? It's the Downbeat. Good Friday morning, Metroplex, coldest balls outside, temperature of twenty five degrees, clear skies, gonna be a bit chilly all day long. I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Baylis,
Mike's Roy. You have JJ Jackson two and four or eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven one is the phone number you want to chance at a pair of MAVs tickets when they play The Magic on the twenty ninth. Go ahead and call now, Jj'll get your info. Put you on hold. But right now we are going to discuss something that Mike hipped us to
last night. A double podcast that was recorded in August for Dwayne Wade, and it was called the Pantheon Podcast and heard that's it's Pantheon with Dirt Novitsky Paso and Tony Parker. The Why with Dwayne Wade. Pretty good name because he's got the strange why in his name. The why it is clever works, it works. It's a two parter. And again this is recorded about a week before they I think it was the night before the night before,
the night before their Hall of Fame induction. So you got them all together, so they were all in the same spot sponsored by iHeart I Believe too. Yeah, big iHeart logo on there. So he pulled some of the best stuff from it. They do get into a lot of the things from the rivalry of Dwayne Wade and Dirt. But it's weird because it's not a one on one and you will get some Tony Parker and some paalgasol. I'm gonna play my just this quick Tony Parker thing first before you Dirk stuff.
Because they were talking about, you know, the European bast basketball and how those guys brought it to another level and how Joannice and Luca and all these other guys are going to take it to another level, and they kept saying Luca is no Dirk, Luca's no Dirk, Dirk's the goat, and Dwayne Wade asked Tony Parker, why is what do you why do you keep saying
that. But no, no, no, that's what Dwayn Wade kept because Tony Parker kept saying, they were like, yeah, well, then we got Luca on Dallas and he kept saying, Luca's no Dirk, Luca's no Dirk. He's had like three or four times. And then and Dwayne Wade kind of stopped. He goes why he keep saying that. This was like he was butt hurt that Luca's great. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, but uh, this is Tony Parker's response. That was kind of funny. Why today do you say he's no Dirk? Why? Why not?
Because for me to be in the conversation, you have to win a championship. Oh well so that's just my personal opinion. Yeah, but I love goat debate. I love goat debate. It was so funny to me. I was laughing at that. I was just imagining to goat debate fighting for the president. To the President of the United States, you're thinking of actual two goats and a thoughtful debate about goats. I love humans debate, gold
milk not the best goat cheese good. I love goat debate. I have to go debates with my brothers with my friends all the time, and then I just imagine him just yelling about correct again. I love goat debate. I have got debates with my brothers, with my friends all the time. It's like boat conversation, Like like what goat debates and boat conversations? Who's your hand in hand? It's like a boat conversation. I don't even know what that means. Is that not best of all time? This case?
Are they talking boats? I don't know, the greatest of all times of all time? That is a beautiful quote. I love good debate, go debate. Okay, can you do it all one more time? I love go debate. I have go debates with my brothers with my friends all the time. Here it's like both conversation on. Yeah, so they have goat debate, but boat conversation less formal. It's not very angry. Everyone just just talking about it. You're usually on the you share the same view in
a boat conversation, but a goat debate you're on opposite sides. Right, you're wrong, I'll tell you why. Yeah, you're right. He was pretty good. He was the best of all time. I love got debate. I have go debates with my brothers, with my friends all the time. Here, it's like both conversation on you. It's like you're always like with debating and debating, and to me, because I want a championship, I'm like, if you don't understand what it takes to win a championship,
I don't think you should be in the goat debate. Okay, Okay, that's what you need. Okay, okay, personal debate. They laughed. It's like boat conversation and they're like, ha ha, Like I did they all have boats? I guess I prefer this boat over the Yeah, this is an outrigger cat Morandi is in feet of your boat. I love good debate. Okay, can you just play that fifteen times? Yeah? I'm saving it. Just debate, Just get the play more and more. Okay, all right. D Wade to Dirk, how did you feel about me
in two thousand and six? How did you feel about me in two thousand and six? I said, it wasn't a lot of love there. I'd say there wasn't a lot of love there. There were just things set on both sides that weren't appreciated. I think you took offense though, And I said we kind of gave them the challenge, which is which I've would have probably taken offense too, because you worked extremely hard, you played your butt off and carried them. Yeah. I came back swinging in the media.
Yeah. And then even weeks later or or maybe I said something that the training camp the following year, and I remember in the next year and I'm already moved on obviously, Uh, some reporter comes up to me and shoot around me like, hey, did you see what Dwayne said? And I was like what this is? Like months now later, he's like, yeah, you weren't the finisher, you weren't the leader. And I'm like,
oh wow, that came out of nowhere. So I didn't appreciate that, of course, But now twenty almost twenty years later, I see where both sides were were just not happy with how that whole thing went down. But honestly, I say this all the time. There can't always be friendships during the highest level of competition. I mean, it's just not how it works. Were I'm old school, I always wanted to win, but there was
there was no love loss there at the beginning. I remember, and the seven the All Star Game was in Vegas, I think we were the only two All Stars ever on record to not shake haunts pre game. So there was definitely, Yeah, there was definitely some some cold times. And mind you, we've never had a conversation to this point exactly, We've never talked talked, And it shows you the power of the media and how they you know, they came back to me and they said, well, Dirk said
this, Oh really, well watch this. Do you think they met hadn't had a conversation until that seven as of that seven All Star Game, I think so, yeah, not not till that podcast that they talked before. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, yeah I heard it that way. Yeah, this was the first time we've ever had a conversation. Is right now at this panel at the table. That's how I heard it the first time. But now that it's been played a few times, I heard
it a few times. I think they threw seven. I still think it was super icy in twenty eleven though, oh yeah, which I mean we all knew, ye know what happened. We're gonna talk about that in a second. But like I just because they talked at the seven All Star Game, right, m hm, doesn't mean well he didn't say they talked, were the first people that didn't shake hands, so like how long. Yeah, all that means is in O seven they were not friends, yes,
and and I love I mean, they're mature adults. And you know, Dirk we know is one of the kindest humans we're lucky enough to have in our lives. And anyway, even just as a fan of but I bet Dirk hated that. Yeah that no, I mean then and then you get out of it, and hell you hang a banner. It was cool to see these dudes sitting around with all of the competitive egos stripped. Yeah, because I thought Dirk, I thought all of them. But but Dirk in
particular was very transparent, very honest. There was no braggado show, there was no excuses for anything, like all that stuff was stripped away. Talked very candidly about the uh se Been playoffs when they got just smeared by Golden State and how all that felt. I've never heard these perspectives before, you know, it's just really neat to hear him almost twenty years later in long
form too. Yeah, very casual, do you guys find And it's just because how infatuated I am and how much admiration I have for Dirk, but I think he has one of the most pleasant voices in the world. Yeah, yeah, like I anything he says, I'm I'm, I can't like and I can't look I watched the video. This is just audio format, but please go watch the videos on YouTube. Just just look up Dwayne Wade Dirk now yeah, not you know, do it at six pm. But I just can't look away, Like, I just can't take my eyes off
of him, I can't stop listening to him. I just I love him. For someone who I've had done a few work projects with, I wouldn't say I know him at all. I don't. Yeah, he's I love him. He's so there's something incredibly genuine about him. And one of the things that I've noticed about him, and I heard this from somebody a long time ago, is you can always tell when somebody is genuine when they are interacting with you, if they smile with their eyes. Yeah. You know
what I'm saying is when he does. I've seen Dirt grin when he's just kind of like whatever, But when he's engaged and entertained by something, there's a connection. He has a way of connecting with you because he does. When he smiles, he smiles with his eyes as well as his mouth. And there's something weird, weirdly cool about that. It's a unique thing. Is look forward the next time you see him engaging with people where he's comfortable, yeah and happy. Like I'll just say, I love Dan Marino.
I don't really give a blank about Dan Marino. I mean I don't care. I mean he's fine. I think he's a great quarterback. I was a big fan, but it's just a complete different category for my favorite athlete of all time. And it's just because of the dude he is. And this is nothing new. Yeah, but he's just sold you're not alone, thoughtful and good and he is one on one. This is about three minutes, but it is Dirk on the cough And I give Dwayne Wade his props
for bringing this up because it didn't have to go there. They they could have moved on the way this conversation went with these other guys in the panel, Tony Parker and Palkasol And he goes, Okay, since we got to six, I'm gonna stick with Dirk for a second. I was saying, hey, guys, sorry, we're gonna finish this. And he brings up and he actually show pulls out an iPad tablet and he's basically going to show
them an image and what it is. And it's Dirk. I mean, it's Dwayne Wade and Lebron doing the cough the thingking call, you know, make a mocking call making fun of Dirk who had a by all means of severe cold flu. So, uh, this is so good. This is my favorite part of the whole thing. So long as three minutes. But I'm gonna fired away for you. Yeah, okay, I remember this. I remember this. Yeah, so this is uh, this is Lebron and uh my guy d Wade fake fake coffin uh in the twenty eleven finals.
How tel was that moment? Yeah? I mean you know, actually, so I was sick for that Game four and then I ended up not seeing this until after Game four, So I saw this before a Game five. I believe I didn't appreciate it. I didn't. I didn't like it. It's it's just to me, it felt a little disrespectful. I felt like I've never had to fake an injury. I never had to fake an illness to to show anything, you know, I wanted. You know, I didn't feel well that day. I had a little fever, and really that
was it. So I thought it was it was childish, and I think it was I think I think I said it, but that one of the press conference. But at the end of the day, that didn't add to the motivation. You know, honestly, I was at this point, we're game five, We're two games away of my dream, from my reaching my dream which went six. We were two games away, so I really didn't
want this to be a big distraction from me. And I think even coach Carlisle addressed it and I said, listen, there, this video came out, we're not speaking about it as a team. We're going to stay into our business and we we're here to win one or two more games. You know, We're not. This is not going to sidetrack us. And some of the six things sat deeper that that bothered me a little more, But now we can laugh about it. Yeah, we didn't like, like you
said, it was kind of one of those things that happened. You don't know what is going to become. And I remember walking down the hallway and we were coming out of shoot around, and I think this point, we're up to one. We we lost. You guys came back that amazing come back in Miami in game two, but we came to Dallas and we won Game three. So now in my in our minds, and so all the talk back to us is, well, Dirk is sick, Dirk hand is
this, Dirk is this? So we like, like, you know, I think in a sense like in the moment of being young and having one of those moments, he was like, oh he's sick and did like a fake cough and boom it went everywhere, you know what I mean. And then I mind we were talking him about Dirk, We like, we're up to old. Well, I'll give talking about him being sick. Where his
hand is this or that? And so it became I think bigger. But then once you look at you like, okay, that was that was a moment, a childish moment was caught on camera that you wish you could grab that moment back. But at the same time, knowing it didn't have any bearings on the series. It wasn't going to make you a greater player. You were already great. I just wanted to never heard us talk about it and that I'm glad this is all out. I'm liking probably conversation at Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Dirk commenting on the Dwayne Wade coughing mocking cough during the twenty eleven finals. I love the contrition of Dwayne Wade in that admitting, yeah, it was childish. We were younger, it was stupid. We were like, why is everybody talking about Dirk being sick? I mean we're up to you know what I'm saying. It was just kind of well, imagine any two of us walking down the hallway and the other guy's sick. Oh, I'm sick too. It's like a nothing
thing that is turned into something we all know about. Yeah, twelve years later, are and still talking about. It's just such a bizarre and it kind of made it's so dumb, the emotions that we allow to affect our ways of thinking when especially when it comes to sports. I can't say that that didn't I already didn't love Dwayne Wade and Lebron at that time, but boy, yes they were in my crosshairs and I hated them for years. You mock, Dirk, what are you man out there playing with one hundred
in two temperature. You son's a bitch, human garbage. The referees handed you the title, Lios says, you know, and right ridiculous. No, it was so good. And again there's a lot in this. We kind of took the best best chunks. Uh, I'm gonna save it part I. Maybe we'll do it a nine thirty. So I wonna give away these maps tickets now like we said we would. Cool. There's a part that's uh regarding one of Dirk's first purchases once you got money in the NBA,
and we'll play that for you at nine thirty. But right now, let's go ahead. Let's do Dirk Trivia for MAVs tickets. We've got MAVs. We've got magic on the twenty ninth, that's gonna be the Monday after next and you can get tickets at MAVs dot com. Of course, we've got a couple of pairs to give away. Let's go to our first caller. Hello, you were on ninety seven one the Freak for a chance to win MAVs tickets. What's your name? Justin? Hello, Justin? Where
are you calling from? North Richland Hills? Justin? Are you a fan of the Dallas Mavericks. I'm I'm definitely a fan and of Dirks as well. Big fan. Uh well, I'm five five, but my heart, in my heart, I'm a very big fan. Well, let me be honest with you, Justin. I have three questions here. I'm trying to determine which one I should give you because one of them is like super easy, yeah, and then and then it gets to some that are harder,
And I'm trying to judge your level of MAVs knowledge in this conversation. I'm five five, so okay, he's a short king tablish the Justin. Yeah, so you know, and you know kavinall would hate me for sure. Should I give them easy one? Yeah? Because he's five five. Man, Okay, he's only five five. He can't POSSI hard life. You can't possibly know this stuff. All right, Fine, I'm gonna give you easy one, but it's a two parter. Are you ready, Justin?
This is from Dallas Mavericks Tickets. Yes, sir, all right, I need I need you to tell me the name of Dirk's hometown and the only other NBA player to come from Dirk's hometown. It would be war Warsburg. Sur spell that please. Uh, it's a z z A z z y B. No, no, wait, not good with my German alphabet, but I think it is. It starts with a w ope, uh Warsburg, Germany, and the only other NBA player to come out of there would be oh, oh he's tall, right, he's very probably tall and uh
the Germans. That German guy's tall came from the same place as Dirk. Yes, yes, Jet, Jason, Terry Jet. If you go by Jet or Jason, because I'm on the spot right now, you're so close kind of ok, Okay, you wouldn't. I wouldn't say that this is a miniature man. He's not a mini NBA player. No, he's not a mini uh no, okay, he's like me, the opposite of a mini NBA player. Oh, he's a he's a delight a grande. No, he's a he's a big player, for sure, he's a big Yeah,
he's leave. So it's it's definitely Dirk. He's made the most of his abilities in the league. Yes, yes, I think he's maximized his abilities. Okay, Maxi Kleeber, Hey, do you know what? He maybe five to five, but his brain is six nine Yeah, thank goodness, Thanks Danny, You're the best. I love debates and and Mike, do you love goat debate? I love ninety seven to one trivia and winning tickets. Very good, debt to go on? Very good. I'm also
very happy for uh Maverick's Uh have Kyrie. We're gonna pop you on. We're gonna pop you on hold and get your info. Thank you, Justin, Thanks dude for real man, thanks for listening. Congrats you just wont Matt Dallas Mavericks ticket barely, barely. We had to like run the tickets to your house the door back in the CU truck that they go over my head And why are you still on the air? Stay on hold, j J, get your info, stay on hold, Justin? God, Okay,
I like Justin. He is nice. Who's the next collar? Hi, Welcome to ninety seven won the freak. Your chance to win MAVs tickets is imminent. What's your name? It's Kevin, Kevin any more? Kevin's eleven eleven? Huh? All right, you're a big MAS fan. You're excited for this opportunity to win Dallas Mavericks tickets. Here on the Home of the MAVs. Oh yeah, all right, yours question is harder than Justin's was. But if you know Dirk, if you know Dirk, uh,
you should be okay, are you ready, Kevin? Other than basketball, what are the two sports that Dirk famously grew up playing? Oh my god, well might have to guess hennas and go on and oh man would have been track. Track. It's a sport that al Bundy was. We were close. It was a field, you're close. Field. He loved playing field. Al Bundy was pretty good at this sport. Uh huh? They oh man about field hockey? No, wow, that's a good clue. Do you like that hockey? All right, clue. We're going to really
applaud if you get this right. We're gonna all give him a hand. What uh? Field hockey is something I could think of. Are you listening to the clues or not? Are you looking out for the clues? Ye? Did you ever see any episodes of Married with Children? No? Okay, no, I didn't that. I mean he didn't really good tennis is correct? You did get one of them. There's one more left. The sport starts with a body part. You know. There's a football okay,
like soccer? Your guess of football is very close. You couldn't be any closer with one of those words work, work your way away from the foot and name body parts handball? How do they do it? How? How Kevin? We have the smartest, smartest how Kevin? Listeners, Kevin, you just want Dallas Mavericks tickets on ninety seven on the Freak, the home of the Dallas Mouth. You are the smartest Kevin that's been on these air waves today. Well, thank you do your accept acceptance speech now speech.
They changed things on as quick on this world. So enjoy your every minute. Well you have it well done. All right, thank one person for for what you've done today. Oh, thank you for Kat for letting me be the smartest Kevin on the air today. All right, deal dude, Hey for real, thank you for thanks for listening. No joke and have fun at the game. Appreciate it all right, dude, you're lightning fast.
The third question we never got to. Who's the only player to play more regular season minutes for one franchise than Dirk Noviski did for the Mavericks. The only player in a history that played more for one team Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Malone, the Mailman, Male Man, Carl Malone, well done, Danny, well done, Justin, well done, Kevin, good job,
Mike. Thanks, let's go have fun. Dingo's Morning News. Uh coming up next, I'm going to tell you why, not only why alligators are going to take over the planet, but they're going to kill us all