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with our basketball team. We, of course the home of the Dallas Mavericks, proud to be and proud to air every game on the station. But we're not in their back pockets. Mikey, Yeah, we'll prove it to you again here. I think most of us aren't. I'm not in their back pockets. They don't give me any money. No, I didn't get a seventy five thousand dollars bonus. Ben Skin show coming up in about forty
five minutes. Uh, no, I love this. I had real quick if had I had gotten a seventy five thousand dollars bonus from the MAVs. Everything's fine out there right side you kidding, You're incredible, Timmy. They're playing hard out there. But really the injuries, it's only the injury. Just that it's well coached and this ever's pulled in the same direction. It's
working. No, that is most definitely not the case. And uh, I said, we're proud to host the games and be the home of the MAVs, But I don't know about how much pride is going on with MAVs fans or MAVs the team themselves. After just getting smoked for three quarters, seeing come out you look pretty good, you're knocking down threes, and then
you just get embarrassed by its rivalry week. So you know what, perhaps over the last five years at least, has been the biggest rival that the Mavericks have had, the Phoenix Suns, a really good team loaded with really good players. I wouldn't even say there's much shame in losing to the Phoenix Sons. There are a hot team right now, but there is shame in a lot of other aspects of what they're rolling out there. And I mean, Luca and Kid seem to be the two, you know, touch points.
I suppose today, what's going on with Luca, I'd say what's going on with him is he's the best, one of the best players in basketball, and he absolutely lights everybody up despite being maybe seventy percent health wise. But the Jason Kidd angle has seemed to be simmering, simmering and now boiling as I don't I don't know what's going on with Jason Kidd. I don't know what leadership he provides. I don't know what he does to lead to
victories. I know what Luca does. You can be mad at Luca today, but I don't think anyone doubts that Luca is the reason for their the main reason for their twenty four wins on the season. This is still a above five hundred team, still potentially a good team. I don't know about Jason Kidd. Does it spice that up when we're supposed to be all in with Luca and Kyrie, right, like all in, let's go now, right and a thirty and thirteen team fires their coach, Yes, Milwaukee says
I'm blessing around. I'm glad we said this yesterday, and I'm not kidding. I don't I don't know where the line I might find out after the show with a line of getting in trouble for Maverick's opinions is I have zero problem with Ay fire Jason Kidd today and bring in Mike Budenholzer, who the Bucks did get rid of. I love the idea of Doc Rivers. I love Nick Nurse and Mike Budenholzer. They have titles, they have championships.
Jason King Gott run out of his previous two jobs, and the one reason we were like, Okay, sure, maybe it'll work here is because he is one of the most gifted point guards ball handlers in NBA history. Guess what we have the exact same thing. Guess who we need to be happy and figure out how to make work the same dude. Bring in Jason Kidd. Fine, it's not working. They don't look good. They're the furthest thing from tight. Even when they are good, it's just because Kyrie Luca
and then a couple other guys maybe get hot from behind the arc. It's not working. You're not a good basketball team. Maybe because you're so top heavy with stars and the other guys borderline belong in the NBA. Maybe they're that bad. I don't know. It's not working at all. It's bad and the vibes are bad too. Now after what we saw last night, and this is a it's a difficult thing to discuss, you know, obviously,
there's there's so many questions. I mean, we just don't really know what Jason Kidd really brings to the team other than being a former excellent player, a Hall of Famer, a championship winner. That really to me, I don't know what he is as a strategist. I don't know what kind of plays he's drawing up. I don't know how he if he's if he's one of the top in the NBA at melding talent and coming up with the
right matchups, I don't know. I don't know either. But but there and there's really no there's no testimonials or evidence of it out there, or he doesn't really have that attached to his reputation. Rick Carlisle sure did, was name one. If I say Rick Carlyle, if you say Rick Carlo to me, the first thing he comes out of my mind is the best strategists coming out of a timeout in the NBA, right That's but that's what's attached to him. When you say, Jason Kidd, head coach, what's
the first thing he comes to your mind? Uh, you have to think for a minute. I think that what comes to mind right now, and today's a bad day to ask that question. Is Grant Williams getting his second TECH and getting kicked out of the game, and Jason Kidd kind of looking at his shoe and kicking his foot with his hands in his pockets. I think of him never banging a timeout when we're in the midst of what are nightly collapses. It seems the fourteen to two runs. Yeah, like Carla,
I'll be quick with the timeout. Fine, but watch any other NBA game. The problem you bang one and stop this. The thing that I see with Kid, though, is if he may not be the greatest strategist of basketball. I know he's got a high basketball like you, but that's
as a player. I think it may be different when you're sitting on the sideline and if his sole purpose or his the main purpose of him being here is to be a connecting a factor to the team, being a former player, being able to speak their language, being able to massage egos and keep guys together. I'm not really seeing evidence of that either, especially right now, and especially in light of what happened last night. He doesn't seem to
have this magical calming influence over his star. I'm asking this because I don't know. Was Jason get hired because he's friends with everyone. I'm asking that because I do not know, because Luca was tight with Jamal Moseley, who was seen as maybe next in line when Carlisle left, and Jamal Mosley's now the head coach of the Orlando Magic. And you know, the Orlando Magic
have a lot of young talent. They're kind of inexperience, but they're making a little, you know, a headway like they had a Dirk was involved, Finley was involved, Cuban obviously was involved. Like that's not the sole reason he was hired, but that was a big factor in why he was hired, right, Yeah, in other places. If he wasn't hired here, would any other NBA team be running into the podium to announce the name Jason Kidd as their next head coach? Like I don't think so. After
the ten years he had it his previous two stops. Now he was a good assistant with the Lakers. You know that word? Yeah, I mean now and I can't remember the damn name, and it's gonna bug the hell out of me. But when they did go to the Western Conference finals a couple of years ago, which is the feather in the cap and probably bought him or lengthen the leash of what we all which fell out of all of
our hands last night. Those that were kind of clinging to Jason Kidds got this was that the defensive coach, the assistant coach and I can't think of his damn name that pulled these changes in that Clipper series, And like, did that nuanced defensive technique that I watched half an hour YouTube video on the things they changed? It was beautiful. God, yeah, of course I was like Jesus, I watched hoops and I wouldn't. I didn't really see
any of that, But that all gets attributed to a different coach. Think about this too, if maybe maybe they're just following Terry stunts, makes sense, But take the year. I don't think that year is right. I'm trying to look it up because I know what you're thinking. Uh, go ahead, go ahead. That skin's yelling at his radio. I understand he can run in here. It's not Sean Sweeney, It's not Jared Dudley. Is it shn Sweeney? I believe it is. Isn't he still here?
I don't think no, no he, I mean Igor is not here anymore obviously because Egor the Kokoksouth or whatever his name is. He was the coach with Phoenix for a while. I remember he was the coach of the Serbian team for a long time. I'm sorry, Luca's a Slovenian team for a
while. Think of this, though, If Jason Kidd is leading by example and and Luca's looking to Kid for leadership, think about when when Kid got here as a player, he butted heads hard core with Carlisle to the point where Carlisle just kind of gave up and just said, you know what, do whatever you want, dude, and it worked. I mean, so if you all should get credit for giving up the keys to the car,
absolutely that being said is now granted. Jason Kidd was damn near a forty year old veteran and a defined point guard in the history of the NBA. Luca's a twenty four year old young man. I mean, you could look at what Kid did with Carlisle is being very similar in a way maybe to the way Luca plays on the floor. Maybe maybe it's just not a good fit. Maybe Luca needs parameters and boundaries and direction. I don't know, and ask you, is Luca like the temperament or the emotion whatever however you
want to call his essentially bitching hit the referees. Is it worse now than ever? Or because like I said earlier in the show one of the announcers, or is it just the accumulative because we're all mad about these collapses and all these failures. Because the announcer said, he's not just in bursts yelling at the ref like he'll spend a whole quarter yelling at the refs. He said, it's constant, and it is kind of true. It's just always
yeah, And it's not like these big it's not big history onics. Typically it's just like a load of mid key drone throughout the entire games in his ear the whole time. I don't know, I don't know what would happen if Luca didn't you know, did nothing buttoned up and don't do a cocky smile at the refs, you know, but like do nothing, like because he had a and one that it was definitely a shooting foul and he got
screwed. They're like, oh on the floor last night, and Luca just kind of laughs and like like do the refs at this point are so sick of it, They're like, you know what, you're gonna opposite effect, dude, Well, let's also we did this earlier in the show. Let's acknowledge and be empathetic to the plight of Luca, because were it not for
him, this team would be well under five hundred. I think they'd struggle to have fifteen wins in this league right now, because not only is he an automatic thirty points and automatic seven to ten rebounds and eight to eleven assists a night, automatic even with also okay think about this too, the rest
of the team around him is very streaky, but the inconsistent. So the teams that are defending the Mavericks can one hundred percent key on stopping Luca and just say, you know what, We'll let the other guys get their stuff because they're inconsistent. Anyway, and even if we don't guard him, it
still doesn't mean they're gonna put them in the net. That's knowing that that the teams are trying their hardest to stop Luca and he's still putting up those types of numbers and he's not getting any help, and he's getting beat up and he's not getting calls, and it's frustrating. And then the media is calling him out, and then you go on Twitter and Luca's a whiny bitch and Luca's a baby. Fans are yelling at you to get on the treadmill.
So yes, it's it's got to be deeply frustrating, probably more frustrating than any of us in this room could manage under that amount of pressure on an NBA court, night after night after night. I would come on glued. I would have been triggered three years ago and just lost it and started throwing crap. Let's play this audio again from last night to reset, and then let's take a couple of calls, because this is after the game.
Tim McMahon is the reporter that you're going to hear talking to Luca about Luca, who, if you didn't know this, had a fan ejected from the game. Uh, it was a it was his fans wearing a Devin Booker jersey. So but this is a here's your audia from the post gam show of things to bally. Look, what were you frustrated about at the the second quarter when you got that technical? I know I saw you and you said and all the time. You know that was not a trull. That
was not the only thing he said. But I knew you would be the first one to to point out something like that, because I'm not going to say what he said, but I knew you were going to be the first one to put out something like that, So I just saw it. Man. It's just funny. You always seemed to be the first one to put some bad stuff about me. First of all, ninety percent of stuff i've
written that who's been good? I don't know. I was sitting two rows behind us, all right, So it was the only thing he was that time he said something. The only thing was what you reacted to. Yeah, I was hearing the whole first half, right, Oh, you didn't hear anything. Definitely acting. You put out something that was just the only thing. But okay, final what was the final issue? Was the thing. It's not the issue. I'm just seeing you seem to be the first
one to always put something bad about me. It's fine, it's all over. Why did you ask for the fan to be ejected because he was cursing me the whole first half too. Why didn't you ask for lo be ejected in the first half because son never would a jacket fan. They pay for tickets. But I enough, you know, it's a little bit of frustration. If you turned your head and looked over at him after he said that, that's I mean, that's what we saw. Yeah, that's fine.
The bad guy in the media, rh it's all right. You fairly portrayed of the media. No. After the game, Luca goes to the locker room, opens up his phone, looks at Twitter, and basically says that. He says, yeah, I saw what you wrote about and you mentioned the only thing that the guy said was about my training, which the guy said, hey, you look you look tired out there, Luca, get your ass on a treadmill. That's when Luca had asked for the dude to
be removed. Luca claims that during the entire first half he was cursing and using foul language at him. But if that guy was sitting right behind the media row, they would have been you know, and there are certain things you should get kicked out of the stadium for. That is not even close to one. No, you should be able to yell stuff like that, that's part of the fun. McMahon did acknowledge that the guy was two rows behind him and said, yes he was. He was very, very vocal
during the first step. Vocal was that kind of thing should be fine all game long. Sure, and just because Luca got mad that this guy's yelling because the game was slipping away from an embarrassing fashion. Right, Okay, lookas say, you're the bad guy in the media, right, No, I'm the bad guy. I'll be the bad guy. If you turned your head and looked over at him after he said that, that's I mean, that's what we saw. That's fine, Bead the bad guy in the media,
right. And the question was to be the bad guy. Do you feel like you're portrayed negatively or unfairly to me? He said no. Uh. You know, timmot Man has he asked the hard questions. He has been one of the few. Now, I guess a lot of people have talked about the idea of Luca might be leaving. But he's the one who goes on the big ESPN podcast and we'll mention here and there what he's hearing about Luca's happiness in Dallas. So that's a two or three year running theme,
it seems. Now. Don't go ahead, Mike, I've just a couple of texts. See, that's the thing. Luca does bitch too much, but not out of ten times he's right. Yeah, that's that's true sometimes too. I mean, you're not gonna get every call, No, you're not. When you hoist it as many times as he does. I get that. I think he probably and I need to find this and maybe I'll do it here. In a second, he probably leads the league, or suppose to leading the league and drives to the rim. Let's go to
the hot line, or not the hot line, the phone line. It's Nick and Sherman. Hello, Nick, you're on the down beat. Hey. I just wanted to start off by saying, it's an honor to be able to speak with the Dallas radio observers to be here. Really appreciate it. That's kind. Don't be nervous. I'm I'm just like you, big mind. I'm gonna come on, Nick, not really, but I do have a chicken named after you, Big Mike. You gave well, you can keep all the eggs, but I am honored. It's a rester.
They don't lay him. I don't know what that means. What do you want to say? So I want to just point out some stats real quick. Are twelveth in offensive rating. When Rick Carlisle was last year, they were six, and they were thirteenth and d the Maths are now seven or twenty second in defensive rating. They're just absolutely falling apart. And we hired Jason Kidd because supposedly he was a defensive guru who masterminded the Bubble Championship for
the Wakers. So I just didn't understand it. Yeah, none of it really makes a lot of sense to all of us. That's kind of why we're open discussing, you know, all options and trying to consider all of these variables and put them all together. And still even after doing that, we don't really know what Jason Kidd does. Yeah, I don't know. That's like, look at by the way, I just found out, look a third in the league and drives per game, So he goes Shay John
Morant and then him nineteen drives per game nineteen times. You drive to the hole, they're not going to give you the call fifteen times. It's not terribly realistic. So and especially if you're that big and can withstand the damage, yeah, and not not lilt, you know, because you're getting foul a little bit like maybe somebody like John Morant. Does you know you can withstand that and just buwl your way to the basket. You may be getting
smashed, it doesn't look like you're getting smashed. The contact still there, you're probably not gonna get the call. I don't mind Luca bitching because he's always has and he always will. But what I don't like is the trajectory of it. And it seems like it's getting worse. Yeah, And if you'd have told me two years ago it's going to get way worse, I'd say, how it can't. The technicals are just going to flow in like
the incoming tide. What I don't like is as this is progressing, the public perception of him is changing, because before the public perception of Luca was this guy is a real unicorn in every sense of the word. We've never seen anything like it. This guy is putting up Magic Johnson numbers. This guy is putting up Oscar Robertson numbers. He's going to be a top ten
player in the history of the league. And now as this stuff continues and incidents like last night, the commentary on him is he is a whiner. He is a baby. He's a baby bitch. Yeah. Look, just like in radio, no matter what you do, you are what your ratings are. You know whether you're fair, how they're compiled, whether you could be doing the funniest, best, most futuristic sounding radio show in the world. If you don't get ratings, that's not what it is. It's not
good. Luca's mad because they're losing. If they were winning, the public certainly isn't mad about Luca. Luca do whatever the hell you want, bitch like crazy, because obviously we're all happy with his play on the court,
especially since he's banged up. But he's mad that they're losing. And when you lose games like that and you get embarrassed by a team that you really want to be Because he probably doesn't like Devin Booker a whole lot or or of the Suns, it makes it that much worse, and then it says I can't do it. Lucas says, I what else can I do? And that results in it and he gets mad the inadequacies of his teammates, probably mad at the franchise for not putting better teams around him. He wants
to win, and I don't think anyone would question that, right. The dude wants a win. So yes, when you're not winning and you're losing an embarrassing fashion and there's nothing more you can do that will lead to me blowing my top. And that's where he's at right now, and I don't think it's fair. We're I don't think the fanbase is turning on him. But it's the shortcomings and the quote bad side of Luca that does seem to
get highlighted in times when you're getting smoked on national TV. It's a great freaking point, man, Make that a promo the next Yeah it was too long? Did they say that again, real, real fast, and maybe edit out about two thirds of it. Don't just still make the same point. No, don't do it well. Well, beyond this, the MAVs play the I believe it's the Kings tomorrow night. No, who's the Friday? They got a Friday in that game Tomorrow night and they're Saturday they play?
Because you're going right, big mic the I'm going Saturday. Who they're playing? I know? Back to back? That is that good for the MAVs another back to back? We're sitting there going these guys are all hurt all the time. We get the Hawks tomorrow night at Atlanta, so we'll see who gets a technical him or Trey Young is their second in the league with nine technicals. And then uh, Sacramento on Sunday, sec Crimento back at home eight o'clock. You hear those games here on ninety seven to one
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