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I will play some of your talk backs. If you want to participate in the show, you can do it so many ways. You can call hell. If you've got an animal fight you want to pitch to our animal fighting expert, brad Fulsom, the author who's here with us right now, you could do that. If you want to text us two and four seven eight seven yeah, or if you want to leave a talk back the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to us via the app. Just look for ninety seven
on the freak bottom right hand corner, a little microphone. You can leave up to thirty seconds we'll play a handful of those in just a few moments. But we do still have our buddy brad here. Like we we know that animal fighting might not be everybody's cup of tea, it might not be for you, but Bradley's so much more than that. It's a very very well rounded individual. I'm really not this is all I got going on. It's more than animal fights. And I think I brought this up to you
the last time you were on with us. Is you're your acumen for history and history knowledge. It goes so much beyond the surface of of what maybe the more common, uh understanding that we have of history is. And Mikey, you asked him a question earlier and it was a really bizarre, all encompassing question, but I loved Brad's answer. It's because he's got this new book out dropped yesterday, Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grand. Where do people get it? You can get it, Amazon, Barnes, and Noble,
should be all major bookstores. Book's a million, So he likes writing book. But he's also getting big on YouTube. So if you're on YouTube, historro it's history with an O instead of a Y, and just subscribe because it doesn't cost a dollar, you just literally click a button. So support
Brad Historo. I just subscribed and I glanced at his thing and he's got a ton of videos with just the Texas history and different angles, and I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna ask him the most generic question, which was, what's as a history professor and expert, like, what's something in American history that's just amazing yet no one either knows about or really talks about. So my answer was the McKinley assassination, but in particular the
Garfield assassination. So we have this fascination with the JFK assassination, and I'm saying assassination a lot, but McKinley and Garfield, and Garfield in particular, the story behind it is just so wild ass. So the guy that assassinated Garfield grew up in a cult, this oneited cult in New York, where, like the whole deal was you get closer to God by having as much sex as possible. So this is the mid eighteen hundred. It seems awesome. Mikey and I are big fans of God. Well, well, apparently
Charles Gutteau guy, this assassin was so good. We want to get closer to the sorry. But but anyway, the women of the cult did not did not want to have sex with him because he was so creepy. So they end up getting kicked out of the cult, which I don't know how hard that would be to do. Became sort of a near to well, wrote his own Bible and then this is kind of a Korreesh type almost, but he doesn't have the charisma of Korresh. It was just like a non
charismatic guy. Y'all know what's happening with the story on the Garfield discussion. This is dropped like yesterday, and I've I put it aside as a link because I thought we might discuss at some point. Okay, So there's a big TV show that's coming out and it's going to be starring Michael Shannon perfect
Great and Tom from Succession. And this is why it's a story because Tom from Succession, Martin mcfaden or Michael mcfaden what revers is Matthew mcfaden his first role after Succession is going to be in this show that is detailing the assassination of James Garfield. But you know from the producers from the producers of Game of Thrones. What is this an HBO thing? They don't know yet. I think it's going to be Netflix, I believe. Okay, I think
it's Netflix because I wanted it to be HBO. Does it show who's going to play Charles Gutow, because that guy's crazy. Charles Gooto is gonna be played by Martin mcphaden. Matthew mcfaden, who is Tom from Succession. James Garfield will be played by Michael Shannon, because Michael Shannon's the greatest creep actor of all for sure. Yeah. I was thinking he'd be perfect as good Toe, but a bit younger like guit too, like twenty or something.
Here's the description because this might wet your beak here. Death by Lightning is a drama series that brings to life the epic and stranger the fiction true story of James Garfield, the reluctant twentieth President of the United States, and his greatest admirer, Charles Getou, the man who would come to kill him. So you're probably gonna show a big like Toes, like following him and worshiping him and then ends up killing him. Well, there you go, see
it? Shows how ahead of the game Bradley is. We just asked him amazing came up with. So this Guitto guy is very much like a David Koresh type, but without the charisma. Yeah, nobody wanted to buy his bible. He wrote this bible, he actually had to get like he sent it to publishers, none of them would publish it. He got some guy with a printing press in his garage to print it out and uh, and then he tried to sell it. Nobody wanted to buy and so he ended
up uh never paying the guy. And this guy just had like a garage full of these the weird bibles up much like Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grand the new book from Bradley, No, that is going to You're going to bring me so many uh so many purchases. If every one of our listeners, wise ones, you are in trouble. Uh all right, Just to wrap this up again, this is this is his book. And because at the border, the Texas Mexico border right at the turn of the century nineteen
hundred, at a time, promoters would put on these animal fights. So we do have some listeners submitted animal fights. But before we get to them, real world. Okay, real quick? Elephant verse five bulls? Was it? Yeah? Elephant versus four bulls? How do we do there? So basically, the elephant obviously is gonna win, although the the there's one part and some of the Again, some of these newspapers are sensationalized, so picking through what's real and what's not pretty much a problem. But it's like
today. Absolutely, But supposedly one of the bulls did knock the elephant over, but and again I don't know if this parts true. The bull and then gets I'm sorry. The elephant then gets mad and picks up the bull with its trunk and throws it out of the the bull ring. I don't know if I believe that it all the way over the Rio Grand and yeah, throw it over the Rio Grand, still flying in the sun at the top of the wall. All right. So through extensive research and the battles
that you could find and read about, who is the what Anna? Well, I don't know. I don't want to spoil the book, but I mean, Elephant's gonna be elephant is the king of them all. Yeah, So in ancient Roman times they would fight elephants against rhinos, and you can find some of these things on YouTube these days because they naturally, uh you know, in the same habitat. So they'll fight in the wild. But the Romans would bring elephants and rhinos, and unfortunately we don't have a recording
of their fight. We have like coins and like mosaics of it. But I think the elephant would win most of those versus the rhinos sort of supposition, just the way the coins are depicted and things like that, So you think you got elephant number one, and that just makes sense. It's way heavy than everything else. Okay, So the unassuming hippopotamus though, is always at the top of that list too, as far as maybe most mostly to
humans. So unfortunately the hippopotamus I have not found in a stage interspecies fight
with the hippotamus. There's one account where I don't again, I don't know if I believe this one where a zoo stuck a hippopotamus and a kangaroo and the same enclosure because they're assuming they were going to be peaceful towards one another, but then the hippo got aggressive towards the kangaroo, and the kangaroo supposedly kicked the hippopotamus in the face, and the hippopotamus got scared and turned around.
I don't know if I believe that one, though, Yeah, and I would bet fear and animals backing down submitting is a pretty natural thing. Sure, Like he's just like, what's this weird creature kicks me in the nose? That I guess that kind of makes sense. Yeah, back off, Brad. A couple texts coming in what's the name of the serial killer? Apache book? So it's a son of venge, Okay? Yeah, And you know, I was kind of hoping that we have all these murder
podcasts. I was hoping some of them would pick it up because this guy literally murdered more people than anybody else. So I think the biggest serial killer in the United States is Samuel Little with something like ninety or something kills. And then I think in Mexico you probably have some cartel guy, but I
don't think anybody anywhere close to two undred ninety eight. And again, if you exclude like soldiers and stuff in war, I'm pretty sure he's probably the most prolific killer in history, or one of them at least, you know, get some quick ones from the text before we get to our talkbacks here, please ask him who will win Siberian tiger versus polar bear. I've had this debate with my best friend for years, to the point where we agreed to find out once we get rich. So I don't think that one has
happened. There was a polar bear fight in Rome, which is kind of weird. I don't know where they got this. It could have been an albino bear or a pole bear. But in Roman records it says in the introducing the colisseum to fight was a white bear. So uh, but but I don't the records don't say what it went against and who won. In eighteen ninety three in Paris they had a polar bear fight. It may have been a tiger, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
But if you, you know, want to go to like newspapers dot com do eighteen ninety three polar bear. There's a fight that happened in Paris, and I just don't remember off the top and your expert opinion, though, who would you take in that fight? The polar bear is so rare that I'd go with the polar bear just because of weight. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I kind of agree, and you wouldn't have a polar bear fight now clearly because there's just one left him versus who chimp versus Rothwiler. So
that actually happened this world. It's I don't know if it was a it might have been a pit bull off the top of my head, but it was in New Orleans. They put them together, and if I remember correctly, I think, you know, the chimp won and bit the dogs like I don't even want to get into the genitals, but like bit the skull of the dog or something like that. But I think the chimp ended up dying as well. Again, that one has happened, I off the top
of my head. I just can't remember the particular details of it. And clearly there are no winners in animal fighting. We're discussing history. Yeah, so other people don't stage just because you know, they know the results really happen. We're heroes, Yeah happening, Okay, silverbackguerrilla versus grizzly bear. All right, so the silverback guerrilla is incredibly rare to find fights with them because they are rare, Like we didn't know they were species until the eighteen
fifties. So I've only been able to find one fight with a a gorilla, and that was in nineteen sixty and the Spokane, Washington Zoo. The gorilla was messing with the padlock between its cage in the cage of a cougar like a mountain lion, and they got in the same cage. Supposedly this was videotaped and put into a movie. I haven't seen it. I just don't know if the movie even exists anymore, but somebody filmed it. But the cougar ended up beating the gorilla, Like really, yeah, yeah,
you're amazing. Just you're naming locations and years. Yea, sometimes I'll forget the results, you know. Yeah, So that's all right. Just the setting is good enough, all right, man. That's kind of all we got there on all the questions of these fighting. This segment's brought to you by Alamo Draft House Cinema. And maybe one day they will take one of Brad's three books and make a movie and you can go watch it at one
of the five DFW locations of Alamo Draft House Cinema. Yes, how about this book that he's just dropped in stores yesterday, That would be an amazing movie to see. I agree, hard to make though, right, I think what we watched? What do we watch? You that right of a bottle rocket and the two of the trailers were h King Kong and Godzilla versus the planet or whatever? And then the new Planet of the Apes is like that. They have the you know, technology to make these animal fights from
one hundred years ago. That's true. So we need Michael Bay to get on board, yeah, and buy the rights to your book to make it a movie. The book is Roman Spectacle on the Rio, Grand Bradley fulsome Yah. The author always interesting and wheels off to have you and you get it on Amazon or wherever you get book and also YouTube Historo. It's the word history with an O instead of a y. If you don't want to read the whole book, just click on that bad boy and help Brad out
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Danny was saying that too. There's a lot of people going yep, that's well once again from the text message, Hey guys, can you go over the Animal Fight book title again? Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grand by Bradley Fulsome Yes get it on Amazon dropped yesterday Birthday Okay, the double Birthday Rick Roll Rick Astley's birthday and Tom broke what a good thought, though he had the phone up next to well. I don't know however he did it, Tom or Richard Weird. I myself am not a veteran, but my family
is. The amount of respect that Toby Keith had for the Mosary is hands down just right. I think you should be a good example for people, and he's gonna be sorely missed. Well, boot in your ass. It's the American way. I bet the streaming on that. Boy. Well, I'll tell you what. I may just go to the local record store asap, slat out to Josie and be like, hey, do you got a
need Toby Keiths records. You need that in your vinyl collection, Kevin now, because it'll be worth a lot, because it's what happens when people die. But I bet courtesy the Red, White, Blue goes up in an election year. Lookout, Hey, good morning guys. Hey, he's very shocked by the that segment the most important thing in the world. Just super sad, upset. I don't know any awards. I cannot believe that every grocery store, every pharmacy is out well, the Santiago at Taco con very
tough day. What a fifteen seconds set up? Dude, it that he was going to be doing buffoonery. I knew it is that fake messy. Probably, Oh that's right. I hear Marilyn Manson used to lick his peanuts too, and we got it salted and unsalted peanut talk out of nowhere last week. Hey guys, I'm playing Madden right now, and it's funny because I'm the Bears and I'm playing against the Lions, so I'm guessing I'm gonna win judging by the expert. Thank y'all. I love the guy who's playing
Madden at nine am on a Tuesday morning. Beautiful, that's beautiful. Who would win a let's say, one hundred chiefs against one hundred and forty nine ers all weaponry and tools Bradley fulsome expert on interspecies cage fighting. The answer to that is probably depressing. So I don't wanna you actually had that. We already did that. Yeah, you know, we did a segment.
A friend of mine who had a segment called Kemp Spin did a full segment on the forty nine ers and how they got their name and the history of all that, and it pretty much was really gross. Yeah, it was that. That's not a fun one. Yeah. Okay, is that Jake Kemp from the Dumb Zone podcast? Yeah? Back the same cool dude. Do you have a Super Bowl prediction? Brad? I don't know you're gonna watch it? Yeah, I'm gonna watch the Chiefs. I guess anything of
Taylor Swift? Fine? Yeah, you're not shaking with rage and the punching your cell phone every time news of her comes on. I don't know. I don't hate her and I don't love her. It's just I'm indifferent. It's probably the most rare Taylor Swift opinion. Now, if you could get Taylor Swift and Beyonce in an arena to fight to the death, I would be very interesting. That's very interesting. Yeah yeah, yeah, measurables, ragged all old hate. I think can we have you back in March to
fill out our sixty fourteen March Madness bracket based on who would win? I've got nothing better to do, so yes, I kind of want to see the Wake Force demon Deacons. They would fair against the mean Green of North Texas. You know whatever those are screaming eagles? Yeah? How was green a thing like that's the weirdest mascot as a person that went to you. And yeah, I did that more from the eagles to mean green. I think they realized eagles is generous. Yeah, blue devils versus demon deacons.
That's and then also are they more demons or more deacons? That's the other thing. I think they're deacons. They're just inspired by the dark side. You know, maybe we'll cancel this segment we were talking about doing in March. We don't need you back. It's going to happen now got watered down, you know, open that day up on the I coun hey by Brad's book Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grande, or at least go on YouTube and
click on Histoic instead of a Y and uh support Brad. We love having you in the textures almost unanimously found you very interesting and love all he is the expert. Loved all the good good Thank you Brad. Thanks