Trash can presents everybody on New Year's Day. New Year? New me. I got this new resolution. I'm gonna go join the gym today. 2024 is gonna be my year. I'm gonna stop eating for the whole year so I can lose 500 pounds. You know what? Righteous brother, I'm there with you. You know what? It's called intermittent fasting and you're right. We should all do that. You know what? Let's fast and do keto on top of it.
That's what I think. 2024, I'm deleting all toxic people out of my life. Absolutely. I'm gonna have it queued up to where right as it hits midnight. Just delete all of them and then I'm gonna post. I'm gonna schedule on Facebook and Instagram to post a picture of me with New Year, New Me at 12.01. Yeah. Because you know what? I'm gonna be more tech savvy this year too. I'm gonna learn how to code in just a few days actually. I'm gonna be a full stack developer by the end of the month.
That's New Year, New Me. Two days later. So you plan on going to the gym today, man? Oh no dude. I gave that up bro. I went the first day, first 10 minutes. Yeah. It's just not for me. You know, I actually prefer to work out at home. I might go to buy some work out equipment at all. Maybe. I don't know. We'll see what happens. But didn't you spend like $1,000 on work out clothes and all sorts of stuff to go to the gym and sign like a two-year membership contract then?
I'm sure I'll go. I'll just go tomorrow. Yeah. I mean, I understand the developer thing didn't really work out. I got to lesson one and it said that two equals three and I was already out. So I don't even know what they're talking about. I didn't really even text the name of what I was supposed to be doing. But yeah, I figured that that's pretty much it. I'm Chris and I'm like this. New gear. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Wow.
Wow. And we're honest. Welcome to the podcast. This is the Dota Box podcast. We appreciate you being here and we're going to do a little free form today. Happy new year. This is the first episode of the 2024. We made it all the way to 2024. What's really interesting is I know that we started the podcast in November of that year. But can you believe it was 2021? Like we're going to be going into 2024 and technically the podcast started in 2021. So it's weird to see that number
roll over. But man, it's so great to be on the air. So great to see another year blessed to do it. But super psyched to have all you guys listening internationally and domestically here in the United States. Anywhere you want to give a shout out to Chris? I mean, everybody. Everybody's doing great. We just love everybody. All of our listeners. It's so amazing to see the new places on the map pop up every week and every day. Yeah, we talk about we'll be like, Hey, do you see what we got?
You know, and, you know, we just need that listener Antarctica. You know, that's what that's how we know we really made it there at Scott station or something. And anyways, so this episode, we're actually going to be free forming it talking about Chris and I's, what would you say? I wouldn't even say like it or most thoughts, but more like what we think about life in depth.
Just kind of going through some some interesting questions and, you know, there's probably even things that we don't even know about each other that we we feel about life and different, what do you say, controversial topics, but highly questionable topics, right? To where people have lots of questions and there's a lot of mystery surrounding it, right? Yeah, I don't know. You have all the questions. So I really don't know what we're going to talk about, but I'm I'm ready
for it. I'm ready to talk about it. So let's talk about it. Yeah, heck yeah. So let's start off with this. Christopher is a man of the clergy. So we automatically know that he believes in both heaven and hell as, you know, places that you would go. Now, we're not going to get into the whole theology of everything. The question is, we know what it says biblically of what heaven is. Let's start with Chris. If you say I died, go to heaven today, you make it in. What is heaven? What do you actually
think that it's like? Because, you know, we get a very limited window via text. What do you think it's like? So when I was a kid, I used to think heaven was just we were just going to be singing, doing worship songs, doing worship services all day, 365 forever and ever and ever. And I was like, man, like, I love worshiping God. I was like, but is there going to be anything else? So it says in the Bible that streets are going to be made of gold. You know, of course, we're going to worship,
worship God, worship Jesus, right? That's the whole point of us being there. But I do believe, I do believe that we're going to have different jobs in heaven. I don't know why, but I just believe that we're going to have different jobs in heaven. I mean, the Bible says that we're going to live in a nice mansion. Now, I don't know. I had the impression that everyone got their own mansion when they died and went to heaven. But the older I get, I don't think that's the case. I think
there's just like maybe a couple mansions. One big house. Yeah, one big house and there's many rooms, right? Because Jesus says I go to prayer place where you in my father's house, there are many rooms, right? And so, so I'm like, oh yeah, that's it for sure. We're definitely going to get to know everybody and see everybody, see the loved ones that we know have passed and that have gone on to heaven. I think it is, I think it's just going to be a place full of peace. I do believe
that we are going to eat in heaven. Do you believe that we're going to eat in heaven? I think we are. Not because we need to eat, but I don't know. And see, this is where it kind of gets for me. I'm going to go kind of into what I think it is. Honestly, heaven, you know, a lot of things in the Bible also could be a lot of symbolism as well. You can also look at it as a lot of symbolism too. And as wonderful as a place as it's depicted and things like that, I guess here's more of what I
would like for it to be. I think it's individualized, right? There are things that you get in and there are things for you like, right, you know, the football stadiums over here, the airports over here, you get to fly what you want, whatever, cross the Emerald Sea, you know, have a good time. And what I'm hoping that that is, is more than anything, if you want to talk about it on a physical room, because it also says that, you know, we're going to come back to ruling right over the earth,
like, you know, all the dead shall rise to do that at some point. There is a theory out there, and we're getting into weird territory here. I don't know how Chris feels about this, but there is a theory out there that essentially when you die, yes, you do go to a heaven-like
place, but it's almost a holding area. And after the big apocalypse of earth happens and everything that's depicted in Revelation, that all the souls will actually come back to earth and might as well reign over the earth and take what's what's great about the earth, and it's basically going to be in its purest form once again. I don't know how true that part is, but it's interesting to think about. I would almost want it to be going back to what I would like it to be.
I almost want it to be simulations, right? Yes, you get to because how many times have you been sitting there in life going, I would love to see what the 1950s was like in this region of the world without like political turmoil or things like that. Just give me or at least where I would know I'm safe, right? Like I'm protected, I'm safe. Give me that to where basically you can go travel,
do whatever you want to do, have a good time, that sort of thing. And that's eternity. And where the worshiping God comes in is it's going to be so amazing to go, wow, this is really cool. Thanks God for allowing me the opportunity to go around and see what all and not just life has to offer, right? Because what eternal life has to offer if you're baiting it that way.
I don't know. What do you think about that, Chris? I don't know. I don't think it's going to be that way because I'm like, for me, it's like if I get to eternity and like I'm in the presence of God, I'm not going to care about what happened in 19. I'm not really going to want to go back or time travel or anything like that. So I for me, I'm like, I don't think that's what it's going to be because it's more of like, I feel like it's going to be like a whole corporate thing, right?
Because that's like the big, big part of it. And yeah, I do think we're going to have jobs in heaven and stuff, but I'm kind of like, yeah, like I don't really think none of us are really going to, I think we're going to love heaven where it is so much that we're not really going to care or to want to go back or to know. Like we'll already know what it was going to be like. You
know what I mean? Like we'll have that knowledge, not that we're all knowing like God, but I think there's part of the things that we've wondered we'll be able to ask questions and I feel like we'll be able to know. But it's always like, I don't know, it's weird. Like there are certain definitive things that are in the Bible that are about heaven, but again, there's so much that it's like nobody knows unless you've been there. I do know that I think everybody in heaven is like,
you know, you're having, you get a new body, right? Because you're, you know, says that there's no imperfections or anything. So I don't think there's like people that even though they're old, when they pass away and they go to heaven, I feel like they maybe look like the younger versions of themselves. I don't know. That's just what I've heard. But again, you know, there's so many books out there that are like, yeah, this guy died and went to heaven. It's like, I'm not trying to discredit
those people at all, but it's like, nobody really knows unless you've actually been there. And I don't think that heaven is like out, like the heaven that we go to is like a holding place. I think it is the actual heaven, but at the same time, it's also like the Bible says that there's
going to be a new heaven and a new earth. So it's like, I think, I think to your point, I think that earth, once, you know, the apocalypse and revelation, all that happens, like the earth will go back to its original state, the way that God designed it when it was like in the Garden of Eden. So I do think there are parts of that. I'm gonna get angry with it, but there's other parts where I'm like, I don't know. But there's like, there's like I said, definitive parts that we all know.
But there's some stuff where it's like, I don't know what else we're going to do in heaven or what's going to be in heaven. And so it's okay for us to not know. It's okay to wonder and speculate and ask questions. The main thing is getting there. That is like the number one focus. That's like, oh, yeah, like, let's make sure you're good to go there first. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. It's just it's very interesting of because like you're like you're saying and not to be a dead
horse, but you just get such a limited window of here's what it would be like. And again, the Bible is full of symbolism, right? There's a ton of symbolism. So it's how much of it is symbolic and how much of it is okay, let's take it and its actual word that that's actually what it's going to be like, right? So it's it's interesting. So on the contrary, we're going to move over to another side. And, you know, hopefully this doesn't make anybody uncomfortable of what
you think this would be. But the other side, what do you think that hell is true? You know, again, it says in the Bible that there's going to be weeping and gnashing of teeth. I think it's going to be watching Coco Melon for now. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But I do think it's going to be like a very dark place, just very dark, cold. I mean, it is torment, right? So like having to relive like the worst moments ever, right? And so just being in a dark place, cold,
I mean, they say it's hot. Like just I think it's going to be, you know, how in the summer when it's like so unbearably hot that you cannot just get comfortable. Like I think it's going to be that times like a thousand, right? To where it's like it's going to be just absolutely miserable because it's like, you know, the devil or hell is meant for the devil and like the demons, right? It wasn't meant for humans, but it's like if we make that that choice, we can, you know, go there. So it's
like it's not a nice place. It's definitely not somewhere you want to go. It's not it's not the place that you absolutely want to go for for sure, for sure. Now let me ask you this. There is a lot of people that actually believe based on what it says and based on the characteristics of our planet
that hell would actually be located in the core of the earth. So like your soul would actually just descend into basically the pits of the earth and all that liquid magma and everything you would have to live amongst, you know, because even underneath there, yes, there's a lot of magma things flowing and it's very, very hot, but there are ridges and all sorts of interesting characteristics beneath there. Do you believe that that is where hell is? Or do you think it is in a room? No, I don't,
I think it is in another place. Again, I don't know where that is, but I think it's definitely, it's definitely, again, I used to think that hell was like below your feet or whatever, but like, you know, they always say like in the Bible, like a second heaven or the third heaven, like the prophets like, yeah, I was taking to the third heaven or the second heaven or whatever. It's like hell is somewhere and there, I don't know where it's at, bro. I don't really care to
know where it is. But it's like, I understand that. Honestly, I think that there are different spiritual planes, right? And I don't think that, you know, it's easy enough to point at a place and go, that's hot. That's probably where it's at, right? But I honestly think that it's on a different spiritual plane that we can't understand nor see or, you know what I mean? But also, you don't want to in that sort of thing. What's interesting, though, I know you're about to move
on. What's interesting is if you study the Bible and the gospels and everything, Jesus actually talked more about hell than heaven because it's like, hey, like this place is so horrible. Like, like make sure you know, you're on the right path, right? Make sure you're, you know, and that's why Jesus like, I hear I came to give you the path of salvation, right? I'm the way, the truth of life. No one comes to the Father except through me because it's like, he doesn't
want anybody to go to go to hell. And so that's like, a lot of people are like, yeah, I, it really bothers me when people are like, oh yeah, I can't wait to go to hell. Or it's like, oh yeah, I'll see you in hell. And I'm like, hey, that breaks my heart when people say that because I'm like, dude, hell is such a horrible place. Nobody should want to go there. I do want to, I know we're about to get off of this. I do want to, there's another theory out there. And I know that general reincarnation
is kind of a weird topic, right? Because it is believed in some religions and then ad hoc just by some people. I've also heard that hell is actually coming back to earth as a animal or something like that. And depending on how good or bad you were in life, it's kind of the treatment
that you get. So, you know, if you were a bad person in life, basically, you get all of those things back to you in life again, but as a dog or as a, you know, if, if, you know, if you were smiting ants with a magnifying glass, you'll be an ant that comes back that gets burned alive kind of thing over and over and over again. And that's eternity. I don't think so because I feel like that is too, again, that's a horrible punishment, but I feel like that's too easy. You getting off
the hook for it. What the hell is like literally, it's like, you're hearing people screaming and it's so hot and you're being tormented by demons, like, you know, hearing all those voices and everything you do. You can't get away from it. I just feel like being re-incarnated as an animal
is like kind of an easy scapegoat. It's like, oh yeah, like that's bad, but it's like, it's not as bad as like actually having the thought of hearing, hearing voices screaming the whole time and being in pitch black darkness and being hot as blue blazes and feeling cold and empty and there's no light. Like, I don't know. So I don't agree with that theory. One other element to it, there's also people that believe that, right? And they also believe that that could be your form of purgatory.
Like you're not necessarily, you know, good enough to go to heaven, but you're not necessarily bad enough to go to hell. So you're put back on earth as, again, an animal or something like that to almost prove yourself. And I'm sure you probably just, you'll probably dismiss that notion too, but what do you think of that opinion? I don't personally believe in purgatory or that there's it in between. Yeah, I don't believe that because then it says, then it's based of, okay, you can
get to heaven based on your works, right? And so it's like, none of us really are good enough. So it's not a works-based thing and it's not a, I'm having to prove myself. It's like the faith in Jesus and walking that out. So it's, so I don't believe in that because then it's like, okay, I can earn my way into heaven. And that's just not true. So I don't believe in that theory. I completely agree, but wanted to hear your opinion on that. Okay, we'll move off of that one. And again,
sorry if that was a little uncomfortable. Hell can be a little bit of an interesting topic. Hey, but it's serious. It's real, bro. Like you, I mean, you got to talk about it. You got to talk about it. It's uncomfortable because it is a scary thing. So next thing, and this is kind of a different realm. First of all, do you believe that aliens are real? Do I believe that other life forms exist on, I don't know, it's hard to say because the galaxy, like there's not just one galaxy,
there's many galaxies. And in space is ever expanding. Like it's still expanding. Yeah, but at the same time, so my thing is, is like, okay, if, if there are aliens or other life forms, then how does that, are they just angels or demons on other planets? How does the salvation work for it? I don't believe that Jesus like went to those planets and did the same thing over. I don't believe that. So it's like, I don't know. I feel like if people see aliens, I feel like maybe it is like
spiritual beings, like an angel or a demon, or maybe it is just the government. So I don't know, man. It's kind of hard to say I'm leaning towards that I don't really believe in aliens. More or less, I believe if people see aliens, it's probably the government or again, maybe a spiritual being. So I'm going to go into kind of both things that you said,
what I believe with that. So I can totally see it being a spiritual side of things, right? Like they're saying, because what does it say to that, you know, God's going to come down and chariot of fire? What does that sound like? Right? Again, Bible's full of symbolism, right? We're not really looking for a chariot, a full on chariot of fire coming down. To me, if you take that as face value, what happens to a spaceship when it comes and enters our atmosphere, it's going to be burning,
right? Like it's going to be on fire, like even you have the right protective gear around that ship, it's still going to, you know, the heat from it is still going to make it glow red hot as it's coming in. So what what if the chariot of fire is no more than what we consider a UFO coming down? And that's where Jesus comes back, right? That's kind of a weird theory. But, you know, if you think about it, there is merit to it, right? There is a possibility that, okay, now I
don't think it's going to be like Jesus coming down on the flying saucer or anything, right? Like, I don't think it's going to be that level. But, you know, going back to the whole heaven idea, you're talking about a new, you know, a new heaven and a new earth. What if that holding place is just another planet for now, right? That is very earth like. And really, when you're being taken off, if it is a spiritual thing, what if we're just seeing, okay, these are the vessels, the ships
or the vessels that are taking the souls from this side to the other side, right? To whatever planet that is, where, you know, it's being held and that's where heaven's going to be until the earth is returned. There's all sorts of variations there. Now, on the other front, because it's one of those things to where like I can believe multiple sides of this,
like there's it's one of those things to where I don't really don't know what to believe. So, it's like, I can, if somebody told me this is the way that it was, and there was definitive evidence, I'm not going to be surprised. I also could see there totally being, I do believe that there is life out there besides us, right? I actually believe it at some point because yes, like coming from apes does make sense to a certain extent, but certain people have different characteristics.
Even there's studies done by like 23 and me and DNA, you know, testing companies and things like that. And I don't know if you've seen, but it will actually give you a percentage of how much of of primate that you are, or like how much percentage you're said to have or your family blood. And like, don't get me wrong. Like some I can see, but then there's others where it's like, I don't know, man. There could totally be aliens living amongst us kind of thing, like you watch men in black,
and it's like, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that was going on, right? Like our government, if anything, if there actually was stuff, I believe that, you know, they've made contact in Roswell, there was the Battle of LA where they shot at the UFO for a long time and all sorts of stuff. Honestly, I think that they probably, and here's why I think so, technology jumped up very vastly between especially the 50s to now. It's insane. You talk about the internet, and I've heard about
UFO crash landings and things like that. And one of the main themes that people have talked about is a lot of binary, right? One person touched a UFO and they were knocked back and all they saw was binary and they were able to write out the zeros and ones and it translated into a message
and all this other stuff. Like the internet, trust me, I work in IT computers and internet and stuff, that's not, we're basically manipulating a rock and shooting electricity to it and making, like what is recording us right now is we're shooting electricity into a rock in different pulses,
making data come out of that. Like how in the heck would we have figured that out? That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, especially when you think about where we were the 50s, the 40s, like we were kind of cutting edge because of a lot of the wars that we were in and because we had to be innovative. But at the same time, that jump over to a lot of the advanced, even we go into the aviation realm, avionics, advanced avionics and things like that, there was a massive jump
during that time. And I think war had a part of it, but I also could totally see, you know, them having extraterrestrial beings, they figure out some sort of different form of technology and we've manipulated it to be able to use it on our side. Now, what I've honestly thought has happened before was maybe UFOs, why would they come visit us but not make their presence known? I think it's pretty simple. We're pretty primitive compared to them, right? They're coming and flying to us,
they figured out how to travel light years, and they're now coming and visiting us. And just like we do to more primitive areas of the world, like there are people that pay big money to go into the middle of the Amazon rainforest and go visit a tribe that has barely seen any sort of outside contact, right? People go on vacation and do that. I think it's no different, right? See what it was like eons before whatever civilization or kind you are was like. And because, you know, even on
earth, that's fascinating. Even thinking about something like North Korea where they're so locked down. And it's basically like walking back into the 80s, 90s, right? Because that's where their technology is. I imagine it's a lot of the same thing. They come back and go how primitive that's cute. And then I even imagine where like the men in black and stuff stuff come in. How many people just like decide to stay? How many aliens are just like, okay, I can live amongst them, right?
Get a skin suit, get a job. I like it here. It's way more simple than my planet system. Like that makes total sense to me. Like I could totally see something like that happen and just keep it under wraps sort of thing. But like I said, that whole spectrum, I can kind of see all those sides to the equation. I know. I'm like, bro, I don't believe. I'm like, no, that's cool. You believe that? I'm like, no, I don't think aliens come here to earth. I'm like, if there's
other life forms, maybe there are other planets. But I'm like, I don't, I don't really believe that there are like I said, I think they're either spiritual beings or it's the government. And I believe that if people did like with the binary stuff, I think maybe they, maybe it was a dream, maybe God gave them that dream or they saw that vision or maybe it was something else. I don't know. But I'm like, yeah, but no tellings. But to me, I'm kind of like, well, it's not that
important to me. So it's not like, oh, it doesn't affect my life, man. So I'm like, if they are, they are not, we'll find out one day. Not until the mother ship shows up, right? Yeah. But all right, well, we can, we can move on to the next one here. This one's a little bit more light. Where are some places around the world that are on your bucket list to travel to? Like where are you like, man, if I had the money right now, we're hopping on a flight and going
to X. Definitely. I want to go to Israel, which is like sounds like the pastor's cliche answer. But I do for, I do want to visit. I do want to visit England. I do want to visit London. I don't think I want to stay very long. I, I, for some odd reason, I want to visit Australia. I think that would be, I don't know. I feel like that would be an interesting place to visit for sure. I did want to visit Italy, but everyone says Italy is like super dirty. That's what I hear.
I don't know if that's true or not. It's from what I hear, it's very overrated, a lot like Paris. Now granted, I went to Paris when I was a kid. So it's a little different. But did you know in Paris, they actually have the Japanese embassy has a department that basically translates to the depression department because people are so disappointed with their trip to France that they literally become depressed and they have to help them out at the embassy.
But I heard Italy is a lot of the same way and not just that, but I've heard a lot of Italians really do not like the tourists, especially when you're in the touristy areas. And I hear that a lot of the Italian people are very rude. Yeah, that's what I hear. I think Australia, New Zealand, I don't have any, any desire to go to like any of the Asian countries. I'll stop you there. The only Asian country that I'm like, yeah, let's put this on the list is South
Korea. My buddy Ryan shout out to my buddy Ryan. He talked, he talked me into it. He was stationed there in the US Army. And pretty much, you know, the geopolitical stuff is very interesting to me. I find North Korea and the fact that, you know, they're basically in a ceasefire have been for that entire amount of time. Basically, I would go for just to see what it's like. I like Korean food
as well, or at least the Americanized version of it. But to go to the DMZ, right, to see what the highly highest military zone in the world is like, because let's be honest, here in the States, we don't really see anything like that. I guess, well, we live in Texas, I guess, if you want to go to the border of Mexico and Texas, it's kind of militarized at the moment. But I think, you know, it's definitely something that would be interesting to go see. I think that's the only Asian country,
maybe Thailand, but here it's just mainly because of the beaches. Like I'd go to Thailand. Yeah, Thailand. People go to Thailand for other stuff. That's not, that's not good. That's why people go to Thailand. I want to just see what Canada is all about. I want to see if, see what it's like over there. See how the people are. I just want to see what's up in Canada. Yeah, like any particular part of Canada. Not really. I just want to go to Canada and see what's up.
I totally get you. I totally get you. Weirdly enough, I've wanted to go to kind of the lesser known places in Canada, like Saskatchewan. Like what the heck is in Saskatchewan? Like, I don't know, but I'm kind of interested. But Canada is one I would like to go to. Weirdly enough, I want to go to Antarctica mainly just because not a lot of people have been there. And I'm pretty sure it's a giant ice sheet, you know, but at the same time, I'm sure you see some pretty extreme things there.
I mean, it's a very extreme part of the world. It probably is better in theory than actually as in person, if we're being honest, but it's something that sounds interesting. Oh yeah, definitely not trying to go to Antarctica. One of the other places I really want to go to in the Pacific is I want to go to Fiji. Also want to go to Bora Bora. You know, it's pretty much 82 degrees all year round and beautiful beaches, right? It's just where all the millionaires go bring their yachts,
so it's pretty dang expensive. But it's, you know, it seems like it would be a really gorgeous place. I mean, it's in the middle of the Pacific. It takes a long time for the mainland US to get there. So it's definitely an undertaking that you have to be prepared for if you want to go out there. But I think it'd be pretty, pretty fun. But yeah, New Zealand, Australia is definitely on my list too. I'd love to go. Yeah, I want to find a kangaroo. Just kidding. Not really.
Get your tail whooped on that deal. Do you have any more places or do you want to move to the next? No, that's it. Here's the next question. Have you ever wanted so just just because I know Chris and I know he has not. Have you ever wanted to go hunting like you've never been hunting for pretty much any animal? Have you ever wanted to go? I mean, like I'll go, but it's not like it's not like hey, like, oh, let's go like, yeah, it's not that I have an opposition to killing animals or anything
or an opposition to guns. It's just kind of like it's not my jam. It's not really my thing, man. To be honest, I rather go fishing. I find that like more relaxing to me. But I don't know, maybe maybe if it was bow hunting, I think I might enjoy that a little bit more than actually just like shotgun hunting. But I think I think I would enjoy bow hunting. But I'm not like, oh, yeah, like let's go. It's just never been a big decision.
I was just kind of a short side question there. Nothing really more to say on that. So next question being, is there anything that you're planning this next year? So 2024, I would just entered. Is there anything that you've never done before, but you're like this year is the year I'm definitely going to be. It's not that I'm planning it, but it's something that I want to do that I really want to do. I really want to go skydiving or parasailing, especially because I'm turning 30 this
year. So I really want to do that. Bungie jumping is kind of like, eh, I don't know. I've heard too many people have too many accidents with that. But parasailing for sure, or hang gliding, or skydiving. I feel like skydiving is probably the most attainable one. But that is definitely something that I would like. I am going to say this on the Donut Box podcast. And that means that we're going to have to video it to have evidence when this actually does happen. But I am convinced
and I will go skydiving with you. Like I before was a staunch no. You can think some folks from work. They there's actually a place just not too far from here in the city of San Marcos. And yeah, there's a very nice skydiving place and you can jump in tandem, you know, and all that good jazz. You can wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not talking about the indoor skydiving place. We're talking about actual legit skydiving. No, we're talking about going up in a
yeah, we're talking about going up in a twin-autor plane up to 16,000 feet and jumping. Ladies and gentlemen, this man loves planes and he's not that scared of heights, but he does not like glass elevators. He does not like jumping out of planes. I don't know why. What's interesting, here's what got me. Here's what got me because I was talking with them and they're very much about it, right? In fact, one of these guys that I'm referring to is going to get his solo license.
Like you can go if you do enough hours and take a test, basically you can, you know, jump and be by yourself parachuting. And you know, my biggest thing is I really don't like free fall drops. Like roller coasters, cool free fall drops. They're just not my bag. Like that heart in your throat feeling is just not, not good. I can handle roller coasters, but just not that free fall drop. So I was telling them that and they actually said it's actually right the opposite. Like you don't
feel that in your, in your stomach. They're like, yeah, it's a lot of adrenaline, but you actually get used to it pretty quickly. So it's not, it's not very intense. Like basically it's a graceful going down a terminal velocity sort of thing. And it's not that really intense feeling that you would expect a fall drop. For sure, bro. Yeah, it's interesting. I've always wanted to do it. I may not look like it, but I am an adrenaline junkie. And so I do enjoy that. Is there anything
that you're planning for 2024 that you've not ever done before? Well, now skydiving. Honestly, I want to, each year I'm trying to travel to a new place or at least fly to new plane. So I'm thinking, you know, this year, you probably, you know, some of you have seen the video of me going to a cook in the middle of nowhere. I'll probably take some some flights, just some some interesting ones on planes I've never done before or places I've never done before, something like that.
That's probably going to be the the fresh new thing for me, besides skydiving. Because like I said, I do want to make that happen. If it's, if it's one of those things where it's not that feeling, I've always wanted to know what some of those experiences are like. Because, you know, one of the guys was also talking about going through a cloud, right? Like literally, they got to go through it wasn't a big cloud, because you have to be able to see the airport at all times.
But they were able to go through a cloud. And I know it's probably just like being in fog. But that's got to be a very insane experience. I've always flown on the plane, looked out the window and thought, what does that feel like being in that cloud? So that must be pretty interesting. And I don't know, just being that high. And it would be very interesting to feel what it's like out there. I will say one of my 2024 goals. And I don't know if this is going to happen, but it's to
take a picture with either Cody Rhodes, Sting or CM Punk this year. That is that is like on my list. Sting is retiring this year, his last match is in March. And I'm hopefully trying to get something signed by him personally or get a picture with him. And so that is like the most tangible one. But I'm trying to get at least a picture with one of those three this year. That is like one of my goals. I think that's that's a good goal, man. I think those are, those are pretty awesome.
I think we're good to end it there, man, with what we're going to be doing new in 2024. I think it's fantastic. Every year we're growing, especially podcast and life and everything else. So it's going to be pretty fun this next year. And podcast and life with where everything is going. So, you know, I had a good time talking about it, learned some things about my,
about my good friend Chris that I didn't really know about. You know, I'm sure he's, I will say, you know what, you know what, actually this, this month makes 20 years that we have been friends. Was it really this month? Well, I guess it was. Yeah. Cause January, yeah, this month, because you, you, we met, we met, I remember it was 2004 in January of 2004, because I was in the third grade and it was 2004. I think when you guys got to Augusta, is that right? Am I in the right
timeline? Yep. January of 04. Yep. So we have been, we have been friends officially for 20 years. That's wild. Jeez. That's pretty crazy. And I'm not, and I'm not, and we're not even 30. No wonder we're able to pull stories out left and right. We've got 20 years worth. 20 years of friendship. You got a lot of stories, but you know what's crazy dude? Like think about it. When we're 40 or even 70, it's like, how many, you know, how many stories are we going to be able to pull?
That's why we just got to keep on, keep on doing some crazy stuff to make those memories happen, which, you know, we will. It's going to be good. I know you're, I know you're trying to wrap up the podcast, but I have a quick question for you. Since it is New Year's, do you do the superstitious where you eat black eyed peas, collard greens, like all that stuff? Do you guys do that? I'm not,
I'm not really superstitious. Honestly, like I'll be honest with you. This kind of sounds old man of me because I'm in my 20s, but I think the last couple of years, I don't even think I made it to midnight. I got to go to sleep before. Oh yeah. I never have either. I really never have the past couple of years. I'm like, yeah, it'll, the new year will be here when I wake up. Like it's, I don't know, but here's the thing. Like most people go to parties and like,
I've never really been invited to a New Year's Eve party as an adult. So it's like, yeah, like there's no point in me staying up. You're not missing much. And unless it's a Christian party, everybody's just getting drunk. Pretty much, that's pretty much all it is. You're not missing much. I'll say this. We're doing the Southern goodbye here. So we're just going to
keep on going for another minute. Let me ask this. Did you ever, or like have anybody watch like Dick Clark, you know, do like the countdown and when I guess dry and sea crested, that old dinosaur Dick Clark. Yeah, we, yeah. I mean, that's, that's always been like a thing. Like, you know, you watch it and all that stuff. I do actually remember that we spent a New Year's Eve party. I was just, yeah. It was actually at our friend Aaron's house and it was me,
Micah Aaron. I think Stephen Corlew and Stephanie and his sister and Aaron's sister and my brother. And I think maybe the Reynolds were there. I think I'm not sure if they were there or not there. They may or may not have been there. I don't remember. All I remember about that is I threw up. That's all I remember about that one. Do you remember? Yeah. I also remember we got in trouble because we wrote a note to, I think Stephanie and was said, Hey, we think you like Andrew. Is this
true? And we slipped it under the door and I remember she was crying about it and Aaron's nice sister, and I use the term nice sarcastically, scolded us and dude, do you think Kim Lee was a princess? This lady was a princess. We'll have to talk about her sometime. But yeah, but I remember we got in trouble and then Aaron's dad Todd came in and scolded us and I just remember getting in trouble and my parents, I think, still actually have a
picture from that time. So and we drank sparkling grape juice. Yep. I remember sparkling grape juice and the whole reason I got sick is because I had way too much. So yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. So I do remember that. I don't remember too many New Year's Eve's, but I do remember that one. Oh, and I remember that Aaron had fireworks, but we couldn't pop them in the backyard because there was it was cloudy out and they were just like, it's too cloudy out. I just remember being
like really mad because I was like, what does that have to do with it? Well, I don't have anything else. Do you got anything else? Nah, man, we can wrap this thing up. So here's to 2024. It's going to be a great year. And I'm Chris and this has been the first episode of the year. Yeah.