S3 E42: Dungeons and Dragons, Target, and Young Jeezy

I've kind of realized you know how we were talking last week about how it's kind of hard to be a kid now I was real realizing this when I went over to my friend's house yesterday It really is hard to be a kid now because you can't even play Ding Dong ditch anymore. Everybody has a ring cam

Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, unless maybe older people maybe older people don't like the old lady down the block She might not have a ring, but he was telling us about how like his his son's friends came over and they were all like Yeah, we're gonna go out and he told them not to go Ding Dong ditching Well, he got a I guess a Facebook notification in his Neighborhoods group and they were like who are these kids playing Ding Dong ditch and this and that and they were out of picture

Of them on the ring camera and I was like man if we would have had ring cameras back then we would have been done We would have been really really bad. Did you ever so you played Ding Dong ditch? Did you ever play the other game where? like maybe it was on a dare or something like that but I I hate even saying this on the podcast, but we're already into it. Have you ever you remember it being like, okay? You're gonna walk up to the door knock on it

Moon them and run away or something like that. Have you like have you ever done something like that? Oh, I've never done that I've never done the flaming poop. I didn't do that one. I didn't do that one It was always like stupid stuff It was always like go up to the door stick your tongue out make a stupid face and run or something like that I think the worst was like mooning or Yeah, it was just let's be honest. Did you ever moon one of your neighbors? Did you ever?

Yes, I did you want to know which one it was and this is like this it was squirrel man. That's who oh my goodness That's why why do you think that why do you think that dude had such a problem with kids? I don't We wondered why at the time but

And then yeah, there was another neighbor as well. There was there was two. I don't I don't know why that was a thing But yeah, we thought we were funny, but we lived in a cul-de-sac so everybody saw everybody knew who we were So I don't know why we chose our own neighborhood, but maybe that's where it's hard to get away with stuff nowadays Ladies and gentlemen, it's all recorded. Well, I'm Chris and I'm Micah and this is the donut box

Podcast welcome back to another wonderful episode of the donut box podcast. We are so glad that you are here It's September man. It's cooling off at least where I live is it cooling off down there for you guys? Yeah, man It is actually in the low 90s and I know for everybody else that's in the country. They're like load 90s That's cool enough. It's like yes Typically this time of year we're still in the hundreds so it's like being in the load 90s. It feels like fall outside

Praise God. Well, we are here with another episode. We wanted to do another free flow episode We are so glad that you guys are here and this is just gonna be us Asking each other questions now. I do have to ask you a follow-up question This wasn't on my list of questions, but can you please explain to the listeners? Why you had a neighbor called squirrel man? Why did you call him squirrel man? You have to you have to explain that

I have no idea why we called him a squirrel man. So when I moved to the neighborhood, he was already kind of the How do I put this so he lived on a cul-de-sac and it was We've talked about this on other episodes It was the only cul-de-sac that I ever remembered that actually had this big grass like circle in the middle of the cul-de-sac Where the road went around like it wasn't just the big concrete circles had like a grass bit to it And so it was kind of spread out a little bit more

But there was all these townhomes and he kind of lived for down from us and kind of on this corner and I remember I think it was because he was kind of crotchety, right?

and it was like him and his daughter that lived there and like he had a bunch of cats and The biggest thing that he was known for is if you kicked a ball in his yard or if you got too close to his car Like he was notorious for looking out the window and he would come outside and yell at you Well as bored kids we would try to provoke him a lot But the reason he was called squirrel man. I really don't know it was just I moved to the neighborhood and

Mr. I don't know mr. H or Benji we can call him I guess he He was telling me about like everybody in the neighborhood. I remember like he pointed like everybody's house He's like that so and so's house that's so and so's house and you just like that squirrel man's house He's like you don't want to throw the ball at squirrel man's house. It's like oh, okay

And that was just a thing. I and we just called him squirrel man until he moved out So I don't I don't know I remember you telling me about squirrel man, and I never saw him But in my mind he was always like this short stocky man probably middle-aged He had a goatee and he was like balding but on the back of his head He had one of those pony tails, you know Like a rat tail like a rat tail But like no like a long like pony tail the rest of his head was bald

And I don't know why I thought he was an Asian man for some reason, but I never saw him But that's how I pictured him in my mind I tell you exactly who he looked like him Lubbock. I told know who I'm talking about What's his name not Ron Roberts the he's the meteorologist a really tall lanky one with the like mustache like a mustache

Yeah, oh John. I think his name is John Roberts John Roberts. There you go he He looks exactly like that guy like he was tall lanky with like one of those like pepper Salt and pepper mustaches salt and pepper hair like he drove a Lexus like he kind of he wasn't wouldn't say he was put together But every time he left the house he was kind of dressed well So I have no clue what he did or anything like that, but yeah, he was uh, I Mean he did yell at the kids though

I mean he would yell at you if you even came close to his yard like you don't even have to be in his yard And he would yell at you so I don't know what the deal was with that That's awesome. Well, I guess that was my follow-up question

Do you have a question you want to ask because if not I have another one? Yeah, go ahead We won't count that first one You just had to ask you had to clarify to the listeners of who's grow man was yes All right, so on a scale of one to ten How nerdy would you rate yourself because I know both of us we would probably admit that we are nerds and again nerd is Kind of a gen nerds have become more popular or meant more mainstream. It's not an insult anymore

But on a scale of one to ten, how would you rate yourself? I also feel like it's also how do you put this? I also feel like it's um How do you define nerd because I feel like it's become a lot more of a general term like for myself Um, I would consider myself Um, of course of a plain nerd, but at the same time Um, like a football nerd for sure There are those things. I mean I

What would you consider a nerd? I guess for me it's anybody that's really really intent on something to the point where they like They almost study it or they do study it. You know what I mean? Like I guess that's my definition of it. Everyone has those things they're obsessed with but when I talk about being a nerd There's different flavors of nerds. So there's like the anime nerds. There's the marvel nerds

There's the star wars words. There's a sci-fi nerd. I feel like the rest there's wrestling nerd like

Just kind of defined to me how you would so for me. Yeah, that's that's for me I I think that I mean almost studying the thing football aviation and then Um, if you want to talk about shows and things like that, um, I mean, I do like sci-fi is all the stargate series I was pretty pretty in on Um, which is really dirty stuff Um, I I you know, I did watch some battles card galactica because I mean I do kind of look like Dwight shrewd

I figured, you know, might as well watch some battles are galactica while I'm at it And I wasn't huge on it. Um, like there are some it's all about the storyline You know what I mean? And there's something about me and chrysal attest to this. I don't know something about certain shows If it's made to be outlandish and I know it's going to be outlandish I can prep for that But if you're going for realism

And you can poke holes through it. I don't really like that if that makes sense I like more realism on that but to answer your question I would say on a scale of one to ten Probably six seven like I'm definitely not I'm I'm not going to a comic con to see some of these people or I'm not going to a sports convention to go get somebody's autograph or anything like that Um, but at the same time like yeah Do I research this stuff online and yet do I keep up with it?

Pretty pretty heavily. Absolutely. What would you say is the nerdiest thing you've either watched or the nerdiest thing you've ever done? I think I got to go back to to stargate good old stuff I think I got to go back to to stargate good old stargate universe. It's one of them They never finished the show and like I still so sometimes I do be reading like fan fiction of how they think it would end if they kept going

If like the show kept going so that's that's a pretty nerdy thing. I would say that's probably the nerdiest thing um Because I don't know it's kind of like and then even I wouldn't necessarily call this nerdy But like, you know, even like the ending of the sopranos like reading online like okay

How do you think that would end that sort of thing? So just kind of like fan fiction stuff sometimes Okay, then shifting gears to The aviation thing and I know you could go on a whole long rant about it But what is the nerdiest like plain?

Nerd thing that you've done that you would say oh man that guy is a plain nerd Definitely one and you can find these on at the trash kid network and aviator society has a few of the videos too, but When I went up to Denver and took the metro liner out to mccook, Nebraska just for some context mccook, Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere

I think the population was like 10,000 or less. It's just it's in the middle of nowhere and so you take A plane and it's they're very it's the last passenger version of this plane Um, and I mean it's loud. It's clunky everything like that and

So of course, it's one of those things to where there's only two crew. It's the pilots That's the only people who are on the plane and so they help you get on the plane to help you get off the plane So naturally they're gonna see you get on the plane and get off the plane They were very very confused when they saw me walk off the plane and then they saw me go into that little terminal building Turn right back around and walk right back and they're like are you are you coming back?

It's like yep. I'm here just for the plane And they thought that was very very odd But wasn't that like one of the last Voyages they were gonna retire that plane and that's why you went in a few years probably but now they're they're gonna continue Doing it for for a while at least the passenger version of it There was rumor that they were going to like get rid of the passenger side of it and make it into a cargo route but that hasn't happened just yet, but um

It's just one of those things to where it's like it's still an opportunity to do the last one before they retire it so But now they they thought that was quite weird They were in there like do you do this kind of stuff often and I was just like if I had more money, yeah If I had more money to do it you bet But I don't yeah, I don't have money to be flying all over the place and doing those little little hops like that As as the kids say I love that for you and I'm not saying that sarcastically

I genuinely love that you have like that thing. I think everyone should have something that they are obsessed with Or they're they can just nerd out about and I love asking people that question Like what's one thing you can just nerd out about for me? I would maybe probably rank myself a seven or a eight. I did go to a comic con and I did dress up For the comic con so that is a little bit more nerdy

um, and of course I love Lord of the Rings. I I I just finished season one of rings of power and like I kind of nerded out about that Like I love when little cameos and things tie together so, uh, but I like for me I go to more comic cons to meet the wrestlers not necessarily like Oh, yeah, so and so from this tv show is there This and that but um, I have played pretty nerdy board games like I haven't played dungeons and dragons, but it is something that I do want to play at some point

Uh, would you would you play dungeons and dragons? Are you like no, that's not my I try it I don't understand like I would have to really I mean go by the rulebook and stuff like that because I think there's I mean you have to like set up your kingdom and stuff like that, right? Like there's different cards for drawing to man And if you are dungeon and dragons players and I'm screwing this up

They don't even listen to me right now. It's all imaginative But like you just say you have your dungeon master and he's like you develop your character and you say a wizard Uh this and that you guys are on your quest and you're trying to do this Roll to see if you success But you were like making up the game as you go and you roll to see what the outcome of that decision is So it's a lot of like imaginative style

So you might like that. I don't know. Yeah, I'll be willing to try it. I don't know where I got the other idea from But Yeah, I mean there's different variations. Maybe you're thinking of magic the gathering. I don't know maybe maybe that's true. Maybe that's true Um, all right. You ready for my first question for you. Yeah, sorry. That was a nerd rabbit hole And I didn't mean to go down. No worries. And we didn't even get on football I could talk to you about X's and O's

About that crap and that's nerdy is messed too. Um, what is the craziest conspiracy theory that you believe in? So is there a conspiracy theory out there that like some people think outlandish that you're like, you know what? I think that that might be tangible probable or you know, mighty

Is totally a thing. Yeah, so we kind of talked about this the last episode but about like the bohemian grove and like the mason's with construction of like the declaration of independence and everything um And so like I I firmly believe a lot of like kind of what the not that there's a map Treasure map on the back of the declaration of independence, but I do believe there's a lot of those Societies that do have so much Uh control over the society

I do believe like if you study bohemian grove and all that stuff they like they're the ones that pick quote unquote the president um Before hand and so I I really do believe like that's like that's a big thing Um, obviously the connections and the similarities between the linkin assassination and the jfk assassination like if you want to

delve into all that like a lot of it is there's too many similarities. There's too many like Uh coincidences like all that stuff and so again, I believe a lot of that is like, uh, just kind of controlled But maybe that's the consp- I don't believe like in the jet stream things You know what you know what that conspiracy theory is go into it. I think I do but go into it basically like when they're

When planes are releasing like the jet fuel and stuff. Oh, you talking about the jet trails that are in the sky like Yeah, all that like it's secretly releasing mind control serum or something in the air or whatever. Yes I don't believe that. No. No. I think that stuff is totally outlandish. Um, what would you what would you think though about?

What are what do you think about like 9 11? I know we're getting into touchy subject But do you think a lot of that just I think that's I guess where I'm going with it is that's where I feel My most conspiracy theories come out of is because there's too much about 9 11 that doesn't add up at least to me

Um, as far as what what happened and whatnot. There's all sorts of conspiracy theories um talking about like accounting and paying for uh the upcoming war that that was gonna have and a lot of things that were

Happening in the world trade center. So if you destroy the world trade center, it not only gives you Leverage to want to start the war and then all of a sudden the accounting for it goes away as well Um, there's all sorts of conspiracies out there, but I don't know I'm not going to delve too far into the 9 11 conspiracies, but I think that's probably my most outlandish one

I don't know man. I I do think that um I guess the other one that I you're probably going to be like this is totally outlandish because I already know how you Feel about this. I do believe that there are aliens and aliens are among us I really think that there are advanced races that have made it out here and are just like, you know what? Earth's pretty nice. We're just gonna settle in but I think it's races like everybody thinks. Oh, it's alien people

Why can't they just be humans from other planets, right? And they come here and You know, maybe they had You know, they have more technology um, my basis for that is I feel like 40s 50s and yes, everybody says it's the outcome of war the cold war all this other stuff But we had so many advancements and technology think about where we were at in the 1800s mid 1800s late 1800s We were in black powder rifles and we went from that all the way to automatic assault weapons and you look back

Even in history before that before the black powder weapons. I mean it took a while for it to get there everything had to take a while progression and Yeah, it's like, okay, you can perfect these things for over 100 years But it's like that and then all of a sudden aviation you even take that the Wright brothers would they were flying

You know, they flew a few feet everybody thinks. Oh, they flew for this long distance. They flew for like 20 feet It wasn't even that big of a deal like they just lifted up and sat back down um, you go from that in 1903 to full-on airliners 40 50 years later jet airliners 40 50 years later that are controlled controlled air spaces all this other stuff And then you talk about the internet and all this other stuff that's happened like think about how much of a

Exponential growth that has to be in order for you to get from those levels of technology to where we were at late 1800s early 1900s to now But we've had a ton of aliens or UFO sightings right and all this other stuff and battle of Los Angeles if you've ever seen that sort of stuff But I don't know that's where my conspiracy stuff goes off is like, I don't know man I think that there's potential that that could be a thing

I think everyone should have some kind of conspiracy quote-unquote conspiracy theory that they believe in because that just shows that you're trying to think outside the box and There's nothing wrong with that. It's always good to question things. Yes. So for this next question I kind of need to go down a little bit of a rabbit hole and then once you answer the question We can circle back to the rabbit hole if that makes sense. So My good I end the history of our friendship

We've always had a history of like a rotating third friend, right? Like we always call them like our third gesture That's what we call them because pretty much there are there are entertainment My guess that kind of sounds yeah It sounds it sounds bad, but hey Yeah, it sounds it sounds bad, but hey It is so and we can go through if you want to go through like the different phases of the third friends We've had but if we had a celebrity to be That third friend in our group

Who would you want it to be that you're like man like all three of us could hang out? We could have a good time. I think March on Lynch would be funny as mess thing I would I think you'd be a good. Yeah, bro. He's funny. He's funny as mess. He just I don't know I know I know cat Williams would also be fun to hang out with we've talked about that before Would you want to hang out with Adam Sandler or do you think he's a little too weird?

Or do you think his humor is like a little too? No, I'd play bad. Listen, I would play basketball with Adam Sandler He's really good. He's got to be on my team though. He'd probably kick my I like Yeah, he's he's really good at that. I would do Adam Sandler and then you know if Kevin James hadn't lost all that weight maybe him I know that sounds bad, but like sometimes people when they are heavier like they're funnier

I don't I don't know what it is and with him and maybe that was that was his whole shtick. I don't know but like It was like once he once he kind of skinny doubt he Doesn't seem that funny and kind of seemed like a jerk actually I know who you would pick though if if they were both still alive one Frank Barone, you would want Frank Barone from everybody loves rain. Oh, yeah, I would hang out with him

Maybe like in small doses, but also Jerry Stiller from king of queens. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah He'd be a burning man to hang out with to talk about his kids Oh lord, like can I get invited to Bernie's poker game like if we I think that would be pretty fun. It's like it's funny. A lot of our choices are just like sit-com people

And Adam Sandler which store and this could be department store. This could be Whatever which store is probably your least favorite like listen if somebody says we're going and shopping here

Or we're going to or we can even open it up to a restaurant. Is there one that comes to the top of your head? That's like Heck no We're gonna Jericho march around this thing because it needs to come down like um, it's not one that I'm like Oh, uh, like I'll go in the bathroom body works with my wife But I'm not I'm not Like I'm on my phone the whole like she's having a great time She and she's like because she's like here smell this. What do you think of this?

And I'm like it smells like the other one you just get she's like no It's a different scent. I'm like but doesn't doesn't that just smell like the one you already have

She is like no, this is their fall scent. I'm like, okay So she loves that store and and I'll go in there with her and I don't have a problem going in there with her Um, I would probably say like Spencers like we're gonna Jericho march around Spencers Dude like I like I don't know what it is But I just get like bad like juju when I Bad juju from Spencers? It bought like it just bothers my spirit for some reason. I don't know what like hot topic doesn't like I could go in a hot topic

No problem, but Spencers hot topics changed a lot though. Like I feel like hot topic like hot topic used to be Uh very emo dark goth You know that sort of thing and yeah, it's it's changed a lot I'm trying to think of like far as a restaurant Oh, if I have to go and my wife loves panda express, but if I have to go to panda express

I'm not crazy about it. Like they've kind of changed after COVID I feel like it's not Good Um, I'm trying to think what other restaurants that I'm like, oh man like I gotta go here like I'm I love Japanese food like like a hibachi or whatever, but I'm not crazy about Chinese buffets So somebody was like oh going to and I know that the name changed so I could say this We're going to Lin's Chinese buffet. It's just like you're like, oh man. I'm not feeling it. Yeah, not feeling it

Also, I'm glad how do you feel about like a golden corral? I'm okay with golden corral But I hated furs. I hated furs and I know you like furs. I hated it I'm glad it closed. Yeah. No, I didn't I didn't like furs furs was like one of those How do I put this nostalgia spots like I always went there after church on Sunday, you know what I mean? And it was just like okay furs, but um, and that was something else too I don't know why my high school did this but my high school

Like before football games. They took us the furs and Like had us pig out and wondered why we were sick midway through the game I don't I really don't know why they did that probably because it was cheap What about you? Where's somewhere you're like? Oh, I hate going to this store or oh man. We got to go to this restaurant man

I'll tell you this much. It's not so much anymore. And I think probably because it's changed but used to be I hated going to Dollar Tree and I don't know why Um, it was two things one like Dollar Tree has a smell to it Like every Dollar Tree smells the same way like and you could just walk in there and be like, yep I'm at the Dollar Tree. I can tell you um, but two I think it's because like I had too many crackhead experiences at the Dollar Tree

You know what I mean? And um, so pretty much Dollar Tree or Dollar General Dollar General I hadn't had too many problems with see mine's the opposite. Here's the opposite really Yeah, and you know, maybe it's different places to where it's different, but um, yeah At least from the way I've had it. It's just like Dollar Tree. Um, I had like One one instance I had this methhead lady like following me around and like acting like a store employee

And she was just like do you need any help? I'm just like, uh, no I'm okay and just kind of I guess general uncomfortable things happen or like there was one time there was this lady who had a small What was it? It was like a I don't remember it was an obscure pet of some kind And I was just like what the heck is that I'm trying to remember what it was um

Something about the size of it. No, it was a ferret. That's what it was the ferret and she had this thing on a leash like but in the Like the shopping buggy And I was just like what the heck bro. Like I don't know you just be seeing some I you just see some things at the Dollar Tree and it's just one of those things

It's like man. I'm just trying to get my stuff and get out. Um, but it's not as bad as it used to be um The other thing that I used to really really really Hate was um, I used to hate going to Target I'll admit it. I used to hate going to Target Uh, especially with my ex-girlfriend back in the day. Um,

I don't know man. It's one thing going to Target on your own It's another thing going to Target with the ladies because everything is a stop and everything is worth a look and To me not everything is worth a look To be everything don't warrant to ooh in and off, but for some reason that's how it be And the whole thing through Target, it's like we started the little bull Bull's-eye zone, you know, you walk in where it smells like popcorn and a fart

And you stand right there and you go through the little Dealey and it's like, okay, it's a bunch of

$2 trinkets that they try to have that clearance. Yeah, that clearance section right up at the front. Yeah They call it like the bull's-eye zone or whatever and so you got to go through that and then like the first thing that they do It's like the ladies clothes is always on the left And so then all of a sudden it's like you got to go through all the freaking clothes and then you take a right and then it's like

Oh now it's the guys clothes. It's like, well, let's look at shirts for you and I'm just like man I'm not looking do any We were here for something I'm looking for little timmy a lego set to buy for his birthday so that we can go to this dang party You know what I mean? Like I'm not trying to do all this crap Um, and so I used to not like that But I think that was more it wasn't because of Target. It was more because the time commitment It's like Target ain't a

A two minute deal. It's not a run-in run out. It's like if you go on a target It's gonna be a little I I do go in a target probably once a week only because they have really good like Action figures and sometimes that's the only place you can get them. They have like limited Exclusive ones that are really good. Um, but yeah, no, I feel you I understand now I I feel like and maybe I'm wrong and you can correct me if I'm wrong But I feel like for you like you absolutely hate clothes shopping

I don't know what it was. Maybe as a kid Something was crazy about clothes shopping, but I feel for you like going to shop for clothes Like that's the worst thing I could do is take you to go shop for clothes like you would hate that. Yeah. Yeah, so What's uh, what's delving to some trauma? Shall we right here on the throw-down box pocket? No, I'm joking. So pretty So pretty much where that comes from is uh, so I'm a big guy and I was a big guy for a while not horizontal

Not horizontally vertically. So I've always been very very freaking tall and the deal is Um, therefore a little bit I would probably say from third grade to sixth grade I mean, I was having gross spurts left and right like I do feel bad for my parents for having to spend that much money during the time But at the same time

They also gave me a lot of crap for it of like you're growing again. Oh my gosh, whatever right so clothes shopping was always really tough because um One is always uncomfortable and two like my parents insisted on like being in the dressing room with me and being like No, try that one on now try that one on and you're like all uncomfortable because you're getting undressed in front of them

Right and then not just that but like they're like, oh that looks terrible on you. I'm like I actually like it It's like no no no that's not gonna work and then it's like this whole fight It's this whole thing and so like it's just it was just kind of difficult and so Um, I think that's the primary reason it's like man. I don't I don't typically do clothes shopping

Especially like trying on the clothes. I hate that whole process like Something I still get like I don't know why I get like he be jibby's just like going back to a thing and like Hey, I want to try these on and they're like, yeah, take this little number and go to the little thing I don't know why I hate that whole thing. I'll do it because I've gotten the wrong size way too many times

But like doesn't mean that I'm I enjoy the process at all. Yeah, I totally understand. So there was like a uh, like there's Again, not trauma but like bad memories associated with clothes shopping of feeling bad because Your parents are having to spend money again But then also too like everything you tried on was you you're basically being criticized and

All that stuff. Well, I'm leaving a lot out but pretty much. Yeah Well, uh, you can you can skip over this question and this question may tie into the last question So if you're like, hey, I really don't want to delve into that that is okay. Please tell me but

This question popped up. What is one album or artist that like Got you through your childhood or you're like, man This is reminiscent of my childhood and you're like, man, they had a big impact on Had a big impact on man young GZ I hate saying that but I remember Soul Survivor being one that was like real big um and then like I don't know. It was always that

How do you put it like I always felt real hard listening to that sort of thing? So it was like You always felt like whatever you were going through is like, well, I'm a I'm a G and help boost your confidence You're like, man, I can go. Yeah. I'm a I'm a G and a thug just like Just like young GZ even though I knew what none of that meant. Um

In fact, funny side story. I remember going for the summer and visiting my grandparents and um I was listening to music and back then, you know, this is right when skull candy earbuds came out, right? And they were the cheap ones. You remember when they were like the cheapest on the market They were like pretty good, but they were really cheap I think you're gonna have to explain to people what skull candy what skull candies were so before the days of having bluetooth headphones, um, when

Coarded earphones like over the earphones. That was really the only thing that you had an option to have And so they started coming out with ear buds the little ones that you put in your ear But they were corded right like so it went all the way to your phone and was corded and uh, there's a brand called skull candy

They're still around. Um, but used to be They had like a little five ten dollar set that you could buy that were actually really good Had good bass to it and all that other stuff, right? But the only problem about skull candies was you you turn the louder you turn it up

You can definitely hear outside like it. There was no buffer everybody else is hearing what you're listening to like that just how it is and So I remember my grandfather hearing I was listening to party like a rock star by shop boys And he was like, do you even know what that means? And I was just like, yeah He's like explained to me how to party like a rock star and I think I gave him some bs

I was like, yeah, go drink beer or something. He's just like, yeah, you don't have a clue I remember he told me he's like, you don't have a clue what what you're listening to And I thought to my I was like, yeah, dude, I know exactly what I'm listening. It's like I had no idea

I did not I did not know he was he was very right about that. He was like, yeah, you have no idea what they're talking about um, but yeah, a lot of that music it was just kind of that, um I guess the best way I could put it was like a false bravado of like, oh, yeah, you a tough guy like I don't know it kind of it kind of helped me through of like I don't know because there was a lot of stuff that probably would have made me fold But it was just like a lot of that sort of thing was just like

Well, they're going through a hard time or have gone through a hard time and they made it through so it's fine And who said rap music wasn't good for the kids? I think for me and of course, you know, la cray was La cray has always been like, I don't know what it's been but like Each album like as I've grown up through the years like it's just

Resonated with me with whatever I was going through. So uh la cray I he doesn't consider himself a christian artist like now because he's like, I don't want the label of people thinking I'm only gonna just make christian music. I love just making music But back then he was definitely like, hey, like you like rap You're gonna listen to la cray if you love jesus, right? Like so, um, so it was again, like you said it was like

Hey, like I'm confident. I can I can live for the lord. I could be one of those soldiers for the lord like, you know And so you're listening to it as a sixth grader little white kid from georgia And a lot of it did sound a lot like what was being played like in the mainstream I mean there were different stuff, but I would say that and then Bone thugs and harmony that music video I tried like anytime I was going through it

I'd be watching it and I'd be like yeah every time I go through it now though. I still listen to that song I got me through a few breakups That song got me through a few breakups. That song gets me through when I'm having a hard time right now sometimes I'll be listening to that song. I'll be like, yeah, like he knows I was like, yeah, I've never done dirty 30, but uh

But I know what he's talking about. All I know is I'm like bone thugs and I I guess it's especially I try you just be Feeling that song like it's like, you know that all of them don't went through it It's like you feel it That's that's great. Oh man uh My next question out of all of the times that we had out of all of our stories Uh, if somebody asked you what was the craziest thing that we did collectively, what would you tell me pepper spraying each other in the parking lot?

um, I would also probably say Swim this one is kind of underrated one when we swam across the lake Um that one time on our boogie boards like that was pretty dangerous and we got really bad sunburn Like really bad like we were in the middle of the lake and boats could have just came and Uh, just hit us in the face Uh, yeah the pepper spray one

I would say riding the bulls together that that one was pretty like adventurous. That was probably listen for me That was probably the craziest like telling telling people it's like, yeah We used to we used to rodeo together like that. Like yeah, X lax brownies bacon X lax brownie That was pretty like adventurous. I would say but like that got stopped. So we could have we could have probably faced like some Some serious repercussions from that

Um, if things would have went south, I'm trying. I think that's really it like that's probably maybe the craziest Thing I would say would you kind of say the same thing? I definitely think dry gracing in parking lot That was we did I mean, I know we did that quite a bit, but I know that was Fairly dangerous too, but it's some pretty dumb ones. I remember racing that truck that really bad truck of mine um against Uh, and if jay me and ridae if you listening

Sorry, I against their salara. I remember old j. Rizzle. He was like, he's like, I bet you this car could beat that truck And I was just like, I bet it can't it did because that truck sucked, but I was willing to race it um And I just remember doing that up and down the parking lot. It's like really and truly you could have hit somebody but follow-up question

So, you know, we talked about a little bit of the rodeo stuff. Did you ever think about maybe pursuing that further? Like, okay, maybe I could do this More or you know, we kind of talked about that like hey We're gonna go out to tech and we're gonna be part of the texas tech rodeo team when we had only rode a Bull like twice no just once in our life. And so I I thought about I was like man like

Probably junior or senior. I was like man, like maybe I could go do this for real It'd be part of the rodeo team

But I I didn't really think too much of it. I was just kind of like, yeah, maybe this will be my way Uh, we we also had the idea like we're gonna just go work on a cattle ranch Uh, when we move out there without knowing anybody and you know I now you kind of really have to know someone to work on a cattle ranch But yeah, we were just like, yeah, we're gonna go to school and we're gonna be ranchers on the part time and All that stuff and yeah, that was kind of like a fantasy

Dream because that was also going to be one of my questions was was there a goal or like a dream that we had together that was kind of like Unrealistic or we just failed or that was kind of outlandish. I mean being on the rodeo team. Yeah, because thinking about the tech rodeo team folks, I mean for those of you who don't know about the rodeo realm and you know, a lot of what that entails man A lot of these kids have been doing it since they were

Little toddlers. They've been practicing, you know um Heck, we didn't even do the little sheep thing as kids, you know, where it was like the sheep ride or whatever

Mutt and bustin it's like we didn't even do that when we were kids. So it's like we were we were definitely behind the curve um Because I mean again these kids Whether I mean the only thing that I think we could have maybe excelled at if we practiced was uh Like saddle bronc riding um or You know, I think we probably could have done bull riding if we like practice consistently and did that but at the same time

With where we were at at the time like there's no way you could have joined a collegiate team We might have been able to join the south planes team, but at the same time, I know they were pretty good, too so Uh, I think that was pretty dang outlandish to think like oh, yeah, we'll just go out there and

Be able to potentially do that. Uh, I remember one of the other pipe dreams And I think this is more my idea at the time and you'll be like, yeah Do you remember when we were talking about um, it's like, oh, yeah, I heard that they pay 12 dollars a pound for or they paid 12 dollars for I don't remember what it was. It was like per something for uh rattlesnake skin And it's just like oh in west texas is full. Yeah, that was your idea

It's like west texas is full of them. So it's like all we got to do is just glove up We'll we'll get us a bunch of rattlesnakes and we'll kill them all we'll skin them and make money It's like, yeah, right dude because like my my thing is sure but do you know, you've lived in Lubbock for You know this whole entire time since we moved there

Um, and I've lived in various parts of texas. I have not met one like supplier or anything that's like Yeah, I'm looking for rattlesnake skin I have not met anybody or heard of a demand of that at all personally so no, I haven't either. So it's like I definitely think that that was uh Uh a pipe dream there But I think the main bit was thinking it was definitely the grass is greener on the other side of like Oh, when we get to texas, there's just going to be all these money making opportunities

All right, there's going to be all these things around that we can just go make money. I mean there is but there

It's different or there was it was it's just different. Yeah, it's just it was definitely different Um, one thing I will say man was it was hard to find a job in georgia It's like if you come to texas and can't find a job, that's that's only you it's like there's always somebody hiring in texas I think one of our pipe dreams was when we talked about this on the podcast is thinking that our uncle steve riding candidate see was gonna make it

Oh, yeah, I was actually gonna do something 12 year old 13 year old uh thinking. Oh, yeah Like it's gonna do something and we have t-shirts made but we were bro. We were ready to spread the word We were ready to spread the word about uncle steve We did get a pretty good following though on the facebook page. I think the facebook page

We got like 90 people 90 100 people. Yeah. Yeah, that was a that was a huge deal and I think the page is still up to um But anyways, uh, we we should bring you know, I don't know if we should do your uncle steve as the candidate

But we need to bring another candidate back as a right in for this year. That's what we need to do We need to find somebody else who's who's gonna be Is there a particular fishing experience that you remember like maybe you caught a big fish or like uh, You were catching lots of fish uh that you remember Or is there when we when I went anything like that?

Uh deep sea fishing with my with my dad and my brother and my uncle like that's probably the one where I just Caught the most fish and that was a fun experience But also probably when we went to go fishing at lake alan henry Um right before a covet. Oh, yeah And we were I was catching like a good bit like the fish were biting that day But since being in texas it's been really hard For like me to catch fish. It's been really hard

I don't remember. Did we ever really catch that many fish at the lock and dam?

I don't remember catching it. No, we caught one I remember catching a small striper bass, but I mean it was small to the point where I don't even think it was a pound So it was like, yeah, it wasn't anything that was good But you know, I think we were also kind of dumb back then because I remember going like don't get me wrong The lock and dam was a very nice place But I think the reason that nobody else was out there fishing is because they had the the locks open

And we thought like, oh that means fish will be you know, kind of right there I don't think they could have stayed as far up as we were trying to fish, you know I mean like that was a strong current I just remember the it would take our lure downstream so fast that we had to reel in pretty quick Yeah, that's the only time I really remember catching a good amount of fish and then I haven't caught one since Thanksgiving like I caught that one and that was really it

So I gotta I got follow-up questions here. So something that I've always wanted to do and this is random, but Um, I've always wanted to go bow fishing in the swamp. Would you want to do that? I would try it? I'm I'm not crazy about the swamp. I'll just be honest with you. I'm not crazy about it

But I would try bow fish. Yeah, I I don't know why I've just always thought that it would be Uh, it'd be pretty cool to go and bow fish And then something else I've always wanted to try to do is I wanted to do more saltwater fishing Um, I I do enjoy that when I went down to Florida last year did did some Shoreline fishing and I mean it was it was really fun And so I've never floundered before like gone around and Went for flounder, but uh, I want to do that too. So So, but yeah, I'm

You know, we can go to the swamp anytime chris. I know where there's a big one I know where there's plenty of places to go bow fishing down there. So no, I was I was just curious I don't know why that's always been something I've wanted to do is uh go bow fishing, but it's like well You know, maybe maybe we can do it. All right. This next one. Is there a

A fashion trend that you did that you're like, oh my gosh, why did I do that? I hated that like or you're like embarrassed by So going back to the young jizzy thing um, the first one that comes to mind was uh, I can't use that word on the podcast. Um Where I was trying to be African-american when I was not I think the term you're uh trying to use is a wankster

Wankster there there you go. We can use that wankster for you that don't know is a white gangster I want to be gangster and almost If you were like a country boy like camo wearing you didn't have that face but if you were like grew up in in one of those south southern states and that wasn't your thing almost every white boy had a uh had a face. I remember I had the uh the little silver uh chain chain, you know, I mean and then um, do you remember the dollar sign chain I had at one point?

Which somebody broke um anyways, um But I just remember it was like jorts which Jorts are jean shorts, but they were like three quarter length like you remember they're like really long jorts and um You had to sag a little bit which that was like a big deal not to like man

I remember the school. It was like the school my parents like everybody was like, uh, uh, don't don't be doing that and then and then I remember the uh The shirts were always like it was like looney tunes characters or like cartoon characters cartoon characters or something like that and they were always Super long and baggy was long and baggy was the style And so having that and then having some cool kicks and then having um Which I was never really big into the shoes believe it or not

Like I kind of surprised because thinking back at that time was like I'm surprised. I didn't really wasn't really big I guess probably because my parents were not going to spend that kind of money on the shoes. So Um, maybe that's why it was but and then the 5950 hat I was like, yep that that completed the look and I thought I looked so cool And then the other one that I'm just like, oh my gosh was the pack sun skateboarder era with the frosted tips

I knew you were gonna say that frosted tips. Yeah, I'm so embarrassed about that This dude I said what well and it started if you remember it started off is uh, Like really blonde like I like dyed my hair blonde blonde and this is before like joe burrow and And all this was popular the only person who had cody rose is like the only person who had done this to this point

Uh was m&m. So like everybody I remember that was most people's reaction. Most of it was negative but um Most everybody's reaction was like who you trying to beat m&m like no um, but actually it was blonder than it was supposed to be because uh, I remember so I had never dyed my hair was like in the fourth grade, right?

You never dyed my hair and so I remember my mom was helping me and she was supposed to like keep the timer or whatever and She like forgot about it and if you don't know it was literally bleached blonde your hair and um, I remember

It got to my scalp. I guess and my scalp was just on fire like I'm talking about it was just like on fire And we had to wash it out real quick, but whenever it got done man It was so blonde that it was almost white like it was like blonde blonde and it was it was real crazy

And then as my hair grew out and I kept getting haircuts then it became blonde tips. That's true I did have the uh, the the wankster phase that was probably more so in like six or seventh grade because I was really trying I was really trying to fit in with that crowd because like When I went to my new middle school like the white people didn't want to hang out with me and the african-american community welcomed me

With open arms and like yeah, you gonna sit with us. We're gonna be your friend and I was like man So I wanted to be like them and I remember some teachers like after I came out of that phase They were kind of like we're really glad that you came out of that phase and like we know that you wanted to hang around with That crowd and like being the hip hop crowd But we're glad that you kind of found your own and I was just like, okay Thanks, and then

I would say probably the one I'm also embarrassed of and I had these forever were the sideburns Oh man, those are like my glory like I was like, oh, yeah I got these great sideburns because that was kind of the trend in Georgia like you got to have these nice sideburns at the time and uh, come on bro like My thing is I know that might embarrass you now But the deal was at the time Because even watching back some of our other videos about like like the christmas video and stuff

I was just like i'm glad we were dumb and naive because Those sideburns would have pulled you some chicks in Georgia like more than you were getting If we weren't dumb and naive and actually had game to spit like I mean I had those things forever and then I never I never shaved them off. I just grew a beard and so that's

That was the end of that era. Was there ever a fashion trend that I had or I did that you were like, oh man I'm embarrassed that I wouldn't say embarrassed, but I was just like bro What are you doing because like you didn't tell me that you were going to do the marine thing and shave off your hair and so oh, I forgot about that like

I just remember you came to church and he just had like this buzz cut and I was like bro. What happened to you because uh, typically he's got kind of like I mean regular hair But it's kind of a little bit thicker kind of curly hair and then you came in and I mean he was like a buzz buzz cut I was like what and uh, you he was like, yeah Like I want to go into marines and all this other stuff and I'm like, but why'd you cut your hair off though?

I still don't understand that part. Oh, yeah, bro I buzzed my hair and I I kept it like and especially during my cop phase too Like I had the I really had the shave head for a long time It was probably from like when I was 16 until after I graduated high school and then I started growing my hair back again

That was oh, yeah, you're right on that. That was horrible. That was good I mean, especially that first buzz that you had like that one was like bad, but like I mean it was to the point where um, like sometimes you have buzz, but it's like, okay the follicles

How do I put this like it's you can still tell the color of the follicles. I mean it was like so buzzed. It was almost I mean it was like Almost bald like you knew his hair was gonna grow back But it was just like god I'll leave like you cut your hair off like all of it you know It was crazy, but um, I think that was the only one that I really was like, uh, man, whatever

I gotta ask you this. What was your reaction? So I started doing western wear and the whole thing that started with that was um, I remember it was my freshman year And I went to high school and when I went to high school

Like it was all about the fashion stuff, right? And that was kind of it's funny. Chris and I've talked about this before but The the fashion trends that you followed was also the group that you were in And so like if you were dressing a certain type of way like that was the group that you fell under and if not like

Don't dress that way and they would be particular to say things like that. Well So when I first went into high school, um, so like my style in middle school is kind of like my style now It's like shorts t-shirt or shorts and like, you know a shirt or whatever um Well, this

Like going into high school. I thought well like I'm going into high school Like I want to step up my game a little bit and so I remember like I'm talking to my folks and was like can I get like some polo short or like polo shirts and like I was trying to go Real evans if you know folks from Augusta know what I'm talking about I was trying to go real evans with it and where I was going to high school And so like I had them buy me not like regular shorts, but preppy shorts like

Like khaki shorts, you know, I'm talking about like how the prep style was. Yeah, there you go Um, the only thing I was missing was like coast of sunglasses and I want to fit, you know in with that stereotype And I remember like just going through school for a little bit and just not fitting it anywhere because the people There's a lot of people. I didn't like that group of people That were my friends in middle school, but now they don't want nothing to do with these because they're like, oh

You're trying to be a preppy. Well, the preppies didn't like me. So I was like, okay. Well, you kind of don't have a group

It's funny. You were talking about the african-american community accepting you they accepted me too That's where I was sitting at the lunch table the majority of the time and whatnot but after a while I remember I went the pbr the the bull riding folks came to town and um When they came to town it was like I mean, what do you do when you go to a rodeo you get your best Western wear on you go

And I remember like looking at myself in the mirror and I was like, you know what I look pretty darn good in this stuff I'm just like, you know, and like I had never felt confident clothing like that before And so I was just like, you know what like I look pretty pretty darn good like this Um, you know, and I really like the lifestyle and everything like that and of course at the time

You know, we thought we were going to Texas going to Texas tech going to be ranchers and do all this other stuff, right? so it's like, okay Maybe western wears it And it's just funny because thinking about the first styles of western wear that started off with compared to What it was it was like didn't really know what we were doing very rudimentary But like I just remember telling you like yeah, this is how I'm going to dress from here on in What was your thoughts when that happened?

My thoughts were because again, you know that I love Texas for some reason I've always just like man I love Texas and thought Texas was cool and like I always like secretly wanted to wear the cowboy hats and all that stuff Like that's just something I love and when you did that I like I was I kind of like Respected you a lot more because I was like man like and I almost kind of like felt bad for me because I was like man I wish I had the courage to have done that sooner, you know

And I was like man like and it wasn't that I was like, oh, yeah, he's doing it. So I'm gonna do it I'm like man. I really like wearing western wear stuff too. Like I love the cowboy hats and the boots and I love Texas So that's where I'm gonna do it too. And so I didn't never think like man. That's weird or why is he doing that?

I was like, you know what like I I think I respected you a lot more for it Well, it's interesting is your style and my style was totally different like my style at the very in that time So the best way I can describe your style at the time was Walker Texas Ranger because that's what I wanted man. I wanted to be Ranger that's all it was 90s. It's like it's like he had the he had the black There you go Had the black hat. It was always the black pants with the yeah, man. It was it was crazy

Funny stuff, man. It all sorts of air is right. I mean You go throw some yeah, I still wear my boots and I'll still wear my cowboy hat like on a really really nice Occasion, but it's maybe once or twice a year like I would rather I will still wear my cowboy boots like in the fall all the time But I'll wear a baseball hat and a vest and a nice shirt versus a cowboy hat. I'll wear a cowboy hat sometimes

I mean every year we go to the rodeo. So like I'll wear it then and then Um, so my company has I don't know why every time they Well, I do know why every time they entertain somebody from up north or the northeast or whatever that somewhere That's not Texas. They always want me to I have this one particular suit and I have like dressier cowboy stuff like I've got my dress boots. I've got this suit and And I've got this really nice hat and they always want me to come out in that

And they always order barbecue and do all this other stuff. They just try to put on a Texas show, I guess, you know And so it's like sometimes I'll have to try to hang kill you from that episode Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly Now that's exactly what they do and um, oh trust me. I know how to play the part I uh, I sold it boot corral before. No, I don't think I haven't sold in western wear before

It's just a little different of a venue. Okay. Uh, this is kind of a more lighthearted question If we were in a buddy cop movie, which one of us do you think would be the good cop?

And who do you think would be the bad? Oh man, I think that what's hard is uh, I think that would alternate time by time because like I'm There are some times where I'm like, okay, listen I'm on your side on this one And I you know, I want to do that whole thing and I could see you'd be like you're gonna tell me the answer right now I could totally see that and then I could also see the reverse. It's like and listen, you know, and like I could see you In it being right the opposite. So

I I don't know man. I think you would alternate like knowing our friendship It would probably be like we're about to go into it's like, okay, you good cop. I'm back. Okay, good

If we just figured out right beforehand and just screw with them. I don't know That's like the interesting thing about our friendship is like over Over time it has been that because there have been times where like I'm ready to like go in guns of blazing You're like, hey, hey, hey like cool down, bro Like it's okay and I'm like what like what I've seen you pop off like at the mouth like off the handle before Why are you not like ready to go in guns of blazing?

It's always like uh Again, there'd be times where it's like a like we we Let's let's cool down a little bit and then the other times it'll flip. So that's an interesting question

Yeah, I think I would agree. I think it would be funny though. You want to talk about like this is why we could never be in this in one of those jobs or b cops or anything like together or anything like that because um, no doubt in my mind, we would get bored and screw with people I have no doubt in my mind um Or maybe that's the teenage mind of myself I'm thinking about I I don't know if you're in that position and Have that much responsibility who knows but at the same time

I'm just like I I think I would have a little bit too much fun going into an interrogation room being like All right, I'm the bad cop this time. All right, perfect And not about the anyways My next question here Is there something that you haven't done just yet that you're like, you know what? 2025 Is going to be the year for that. I know there were some things in 2024 You had goals, but have you thought about any goals for 2025 of like, you know what I haven't done that

Yes, skydiving is definitely one of those ones that I'm serious about. I think um 2024 that was going to be the thing but then We decided we were going to go on the cruise and then it was just This again the beginning of the year what I if I knew now what I Knew at the beginning of the year. No, no, no if I knew at the beginning of the year what I know now Yeah, strike that reverse it I think I would have planned the year a whole lot different because this year has just been an

Unexpected year to be honest. I think for both of us of like, oh, I didn't know that was going to happen Oh, I did not foresee that coming like I didn't know this was going to be a thing And so I I think if I would have known Like nothing bad or tragic or anything, but I think if I would have known

Like how this year was going to turn out. I would have been like, oh, yeah, like I definitely would have done skydiving probably this year Um, and again, I don't regret how this year is turning out by no means I'm still going I've planned the things and it's been it's turned into a really great year But I think 2025 is like for sure like I want to do that um Like for real skydiving there There is a thing and again with like family dynamics. You can't just go out and like spend

frivolously, right? But I do Hope that one day I do get to sit like And the first row at a wwe show, but that's like 600 bucks a seat And so that's kind of one that's like, okay, you're gonna have to save up for that. Um

I do want 2025 though. I'm gonna say it right now um for us And again, we don't know what next year holds, but 2025 I want to for sure for sure for sure Me you and our wives all go on a vacation together like That's that is something I'm like, yeah 2025 that's that's the goal is like for all four of us to go on a vacation together Um But other than that nothing crazy. What about you man? I want to I want to try to take a trip of some sort

Um, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what but same with you. Definitely want to take a trip together But I want to take a trip with with my wife too. I just don't know what or where Um I think the biggest thing for me is um I don't know. I'm like here. I don't know if it's next year, but I want to go to Europe Like I don't know. That's one of my biggest things just Like and even if that's the uk

I'm okay with that, but same time. It's just You know anyway, like we'll find somewhere in Europe to go to I think and make that happen Potentially next year. If not, like I'm trying to get this stuff in before uh before we have kids That's how I feel. It's like I'm trying to get this done before we because once you have kids like your whole Priorities changing you're like yep those trips that you wanted to go on like

Gotta be like even if you have the money to do it. It's like okay now. We've got to think about the time like right And it's like you gotta gotta think about the time and you know, when are they off from school? Like could we drop them off with grandma and grandpa? Like how's that all gonna work out? So it's yeah for sure

Yeah, for sure next question. What is a viral meme or a youtube video that you just like Enjoy and you constantly go back to it and watch it and every time you watch it it still makes you laugh man, I've got a I've got a a few they're all videos actually so No, no memes really but all videos one of them we share and I already know this it's the I'm not gay no more I am delivered video. Yep

I'll be watching that one and that's one that like I revisit every now and then it's weird. It's like, you know what?

I'm gonna watch that video today um There's another one out there and I really don't know why but it's called techno Viking I don't know if you've ever seen that but it's it's from the early 2000s it was a one of the very early viral videos and There's nothing much to it, but I I don't know why I it's because there's so much stuff happening in the scene um But it's pretty much all these people like, you know, there's they're having a street party essentially and

And pretty much it doesn't look like anything's happening Then one guy kind of runs into this gal like kind of stumbles into her and then this big Like Viking looking fellow grabs him like points and points to like to The truck or whatever that's forward and sits down and he became a meme for a while because they like It would say like techno Viking wants you to whatever and it's like but It would be like him pointing but that whole entire video

Like he pointed told that guy to sit down and then like the truck or whatever that's playing the music starts going forward And then this rando like if you're watching the video, you're like, where the heck did this guy come from this random guy walks up to the Viking fellow And just like hands him a bottle of water upside down the guy Drinking like the Viking guy drinks the water hands it back to him and just starts like dancing like crazy

I don't know. It's like I don't know why I like that video But it's just like so much happened in such a little amount of time You're like what the heck and you're like still no matter how many times I'll watch that video I'm still trying to piece together like where did that water bottle guy come from and I guess he knew the Viking fellow because like

He just like handed him a water didn't pay for it or anything. Just like handed the water back to him So I guess he knew him and then like I don't know there's like I don't know if you have any of those videos where you just like watch it sometime and you're just like I'm kind of I want to know the context and I don't know the context, but it's just kind of odd

I guess I don't know. I'm not sure for me. It's the it's the I'm not getting no more. I'm delivered That one makes me laugh They're certain like vines that I go back to that make me laugh Uh the king Curtis one from wife swap. That's like uh, that's a pretty that's a pretty legendary one for me um I don't know. I don't think there's really any other ones that I'm like Can we get king Curtis on the podcast like adult king Curtis on the podcast? I don't know how he is

Maybe he's like mellowed out. I don't know. Maybe we can Yeah, king Curtis if you're listening we'll watch you on the podcast. Yeah, come on the podcast Tell us if you still want uh chicken nuggets You still like your chicken nuggets and if they're still if bacon's still been good to you all these years um but yeah, um my next question And this one's kind of random like all of them have been but Would you rather

Hike mount everest to like with a team of people you're not by yourself. Of course, you got your chirpas and all this other stuff Like full danger could die all this other stuff or would you navigate across the Atlantic ocean?

Uh in a boat like you have to navigate the boat across the Atlantic. I think I would probably pick navigating the uh, Atlantic because again mount everest like there's a there's a pretty good chance that you're gonna die Like most people don't make it climbing up there and to me like I'm okay if I don't climb mount everest like I'm not okay But if I'm in a boat and I have like supplies and stuff like that would be cool like of course

You know my wife and you guys came like that'd be cool to just navigate but Other than that. Yeah. No mount everest is not like I don't care about it Or you're not near not quite a mountain climber kind of like what about, you know, people go and climb like Mount Rainier and Washington things like that. I know you like hiking. Would you ever want to climb a mountain say? It's not as dangerous as like everest or you know, but still a sizable mountain, right?

Yeah, I would try it for sure. I think that would be an adventure to try for sure. Yeah, absolutely

Okay. Yeah, I was just curious because it's like, um, you know, I've always had a weird thing of like climbing mount everest But at the same time I yeah, I don't want to do the risk and of course There's only like a three week window to where you can actually climb it Where the weather is actually permissible and it's still kind of not um, so Yeah, I don't know if I would do that but see it the Atlantic makes me wonder or worry because of being man storms

In the ocean can be pretty gnarly too. So I got two more questions last two for me Uh, this one is again a more fun question. If me and you were to host a game show, what game show would we host? Do you think I don't know why my mind would you want to family feud? I don't know why I don't know why family feud would be Would be good. That's what I was thinking. I was like family feud I don't know. Can I replace pat sage act now that he's

Willow fortune. I was like, you know, it's funny about pat sage act man If you actually watch him back and like listen to him. He's kind of yeah, well, he kind of low He talks crap about people like to their face. He does. He's a jerk and he's a pervert. I'm telling you I've been saying that for years. He's a pervert. Yeah, it's just like man

Because you'll be watching it. Yeah, he just be he just be ripping some people. It's it's and so I could definitely do that job um, one other one that I I don't I could I could do it, but it's not like my top choice would be prices, right? I could probably do prices, right? Yeah, I could probably do prices, right? I'm not crazy about that one either though. The only thing that I would not like as a host is

Prices, right? You I mean pretty much any game show you always have to be really high energy and things But prices, right? I feel like it's even more and not just that but you know You call people down they screaming and then it's like, okay Whoever wins the you know the deal to come on stage now. They're running up there screaming and hugging you and they're screaming in your ear

And now you're having a talk in front of America still while she's like screaming in your ear. It's like, yeah I don't know if I would enjoy that too much like I I think I that would get pretty old After all, I think me and you could do a great job of hosting Like marie even though that's not a game show Or hosting like one of those divorce court shows bro Like we could be the two judges up there like I would be serious and I would be roasting the people that are like come on now

Like you stepping out like come on now and you ain't seeing that I would oh, yeah me too I guess I could see it be stuff like that. Um, and then I think we should you know We have a few game show ideas of our own that maybe trash can'll put out one of these days um secret secret All right, um

All right, here's my next question. So we wanted to go to tech, right? Um Um, where is there really any other colleges that you were like, yeah, I know that ended up doing like south plains for a little bit I know back in august that there was possibility, but was there really any other schools that were out there for you?

I told you this. I think it was the last one or maybe the time before but Texas state was a serious option for me And sam houston state was yeah, you did was also a serious option for me Just because I wanted to go into criminal justice and in texas and that was like a serious one for me I looked into a and m. I looked into the University of texas um, I looked into a couple others, but those were just kind of meh and so Just a little backstory the girl I was dating at the time

Uh, again, you're a senior. So this is my first real girlfriend and I thought like yeah, we're gonna be in love And so she was a year younger than me So she was going to be a senior while I was going to go to college and again, I thought we were going to be together forever Right. So during that time I was like, you know, if I move to texas, maybe I need to stay in Georgia And I remember like I started settling like kept going down the list and was like, okay

Well, maybe I go to you know, University of Georgia. That's not so bad or maybe I go to Georgia southern

Like that's only a couple hours away. That's not so bad And then I was like, well, maybe I go to Georgia state in Atlanta like that's not so bad either But then I was like, well, maybe I should just stay in the same town and I'll just leave with my parents and I remember having a conversation with my dad about being like, hey dad like Maybe I should just stay and go to Augusta state the community college and I remember my dad supporting me and just

Asking me why and I gave him some reason that wasn't my girlfriend But I was just like, okay, like, you know That's okay. And he said, okay, like, you know, I'll support you

You want to go to Augusta state? And I remember getting into Augusta state But then I remember that girlfriend breaking up with me and that's when like that really put me in drive And I was like, you know what like I'm gonna go move to Texas I'm gonna do what I said I was gonna do like I'm gonna go to Texas tech and I'm gonna live a Good life and I'm gonna find me a nice Texas girl and I'm gonna show her and so I accepted I got accepted into tech and I almost missed the deadline, but

Praise god, I made it. Yeah heck yeah Um, well since we kind of we talked about that a little bit last week So I'm gonna do a bonus question. This has nothing to do with anything Would you rather take a million dollars right now or 25,000 dollars a month for the rest of your life?

Obviously 25,000 dollars a month for the rest of my life. I think there's I think there's merit to both Like I to me I don't know it'd be hard for me not to take the million now because in my mind and maybe I'm too optimistic But I'm like I feel like I could take that money and multiply it I mean you can take the 25 and multiply it too, but I'm like a million It would take how many months, you know with 25,000 to get to that million. It's like or I can get that million now and

Double it triple it and have all of that. So I don't know man. There's some merit to me I'd be I'd be a serious thing that I'd be having to think about real hard I don't trust myself to not spend the million dollars. So I I know it would be better for me to Have that and 25,000 dollar increments and that's definitely something I could like look forward to right? I'd be like, oh, like I'm gonna get another 25,000. How am I going to use this 25,000 this month?

Am I going to save it? Am I going to invest it? So for me that would maybe be a little bit more Beneficial, but if you're like, hey, I take the million like you know yourself better. So different strokes for different Yeah, like I said, I don't know if I'm just hopelessly optimistic It's like take the money. I'll multiply it and then all of a sudden you spin it. Oh, I don't know

They could be that cool. And this is my last question and we've kind of talked about this off the podcast But for our podcast listeners, how do you you see our friendship or what would you like our friendship to be like when we're 80 years old? The first thing that came to my mind is talking mess about people I mean kind of already do but what I'm saying is uh

Like older people what's great is you can say more things and get away with it. And so like I'm I'm good with being like Two old guys that like we're fun to be around but we'll also roast you too and then um It's just like but I know you get this sometimes but something

That's going to be interesting about us is I get told all the time. It's like man. You're only you're only 29 years old and you've lived already crazy life with all sorts of stuff that's happened and you know um Which is very true and it's just like by the time we get to be 80 The both of us are going to have some pretty crazy outlander stuff and some twists and turns and so Whether it be other people whether it be our family like kids grandkids, whatever

um, you know, it's going to be one of those things like Uh, for instance, what's what's interesting is can you can you believe this? We're going to be the guys, right?

It's like when your grandpa or your great grandpa was in Georgia. He went to a former school that was uh segregated school like columbia middle school, you know, it's like that Not while he was going there, but it used to be segregated like 20 years before he went there And it's just like really wow and then there's like a bunch of things that we're going to be coming across It's going to be like it's going to be like how we look at their generation and go wow you you live through that

Wow, you had some sort of connection with that. I can't believe that that's and that was just a part of your life And we're going to have a lot of those tales. So I think that's going to yeah, I think definitely telling the worst stories

I think that'd be great. I I hope that both of us are at that age in good mobility and we're able to Just go fishing when we want just being able to do what we want But I really also hope that maybe we could Find some some friends or maybe some guys that are a little bit younger and kind of like share our knowledge and wisdom And impart that into them and it's like hey look like we've been Friends for this amount of years and I know you're going through this and so let me help you out

So I hope my prayer for at least me is that I can be that guy where they're like man Like how'd you get through this and I can help other people Just kind of tell my war stories again, like you said talking mess and just getting to be able to enjoy life and Not have to really have too many responsibilities and Just enjoy Being alive or time commitments. Not too many time commitments. Hopefully so that'd be good

But yeah, man, that was I was pretty good. I don't have any more. Yeah, so you guys go check us out I I'm not gonna like fully pull back the whole curtain, but I do want to say Micah has been working on some music and Man, it's been great. It's been turning out really good. And so I'm excited for whenever You're ready to share that with the world, but man you've been cooking and it's it's good

I'm excited for when you do get to share that if you do. Yeah, man I'm just like we got to get some copyright stuff and make sure I know none of y'all steal it out that no, I'm joking Um, no, it's it's been turning out really good. I didn't I didn't realize beats making might be a hidden talent of mine

I'm not I didn't know that but you know, it's what you try as a hobby. You never know what'll come out of it. So um Yeah, tv or not tv trash can good grief trash can network at the trash can network Um, go like us follow us subscribe man. We got the aviator society over on instagram too Um, but yeah, man trash can network has been really taken off. You know, we're we're up to uh, almost 300 subscribers at this point Which doesn't sound like much but at the same time

Um, it's growing exponentially. I think three months ago. We were at 150 now. We're up to 300 over there. So it's like Consistently growing which you always love to see and so we we appreciate you guys and that's a testament to you man You've been the one pumping out the content put making the videos and stuff You've been working really hard on that so credit to where credit is due and so uh, so man

I'm excited about it. It's awesome anything to promote the trash can brand. That's all I have to say on that but Um, but I appreciate I appreciate your support Um, and I appreciate all you guys too

For all of you who have subscribed and who I've been watching the content. I really do appreciate it I do it for you guys And do it for your enjoyment whatnot and so yeah, man I mean, we've even been pumping out them nature videos man And so some of those are really good if you're having a hard day You can go look at some sloths and dolphins and it talks about some of their quirky mannerisms

There's even one about giraffes on there about how man giraffes are they're kind of wild. I'm not going to lie to you They're pretty crazy. Um, but yeah, man. Go check it out trash can network. But that's all I got man. We can take this

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