Episode 8 - She’s Obviously Not Dead

feel scared, I grab it and run. I try to clear the guardrail and have to stumble over at one leg at a time. I only get about twenty ft. When I sent a presents to my right, I turn and lift my arm to show them my gun. As my arm straightens, I fell fire, a line of heat, pressing my body down. I dropped to a ground in a fetal position. All I know is pain. It's a stream finding its way all over my body, then returning to my leg. I think I'm making noise, but I

can't hear much. I thrash around, trying to escape the pain, breathing hard, gasping for breath. I feel fire again and again. Where is it? Where am I hit? I know it is my lower body, but I can't bring my head level to see it. I roll onto my back and lift my head. There is blood, a fair amount of blood. Welcome to The Docherty Gang, a production of I Heart Radio and Katie Studios, Episode eight. She's obviously not dead. I'm Courtney Armstrong, a crime producer at Katie Studios with

Stephanie Lydecker. We've been working with producer Beth Greenwald on The Docherty Gang for months now. These three siblings have agreed to tell their story for the very first time, each from separate prisons. Lee Grace Dockerty is at the Federal Correction Institute Aliceville in Alabama. Ryan Docherty is in the U S Penitentiary Tucson in Arizona, and Dylan Docherty is at the Federal Correction Institute in Bennettsville, South Carolina.

Let's call us in a try and get out, can't get out of my door, try and kick my window. Grace and Dylan were already out of the car, and then we're trying to get to the firearms that are in the rear, in the trunk of the trunk has already been ripped open. It's already scattered a bunch of guns. One of the AMMO boxes, I think, crunch one of the a ks, like one of the a ks. You

see it spread out on the inter state. In August tenth, two thousand eleven, the Docherties reached the end of their adventure. After a shootout with police, a bank heist, and across country chase, the law finally caught up with the trio on Colorado's Highway. Reaching speeds of up to a hundred and forty miles per hour, their white Subaru flipped over and landed nose first onto a highway guard rail. No one in the car. I was wearing a seatbelt. Ryan

and Dylan explain what happened after the wreck. It's literally threw me out of the vehicle. When we rolled over. There was a gun that broke over, you know, the stock of a gun broken, you know, because I was holding onto it. You know, I had no shoes on it. I was barefoot. You know. That's that's another thing. Whenever you get hit by a car for some reaching, your shoes come flying off. Ryan wasn't thinking clearly, I'm gonna try and use the car to keep it between me

and the police. And I'm gonna try and shoot it out right down the street because I really don't want to go to prison. I'd rather just die in the street than go to prison for the rest of my life. And I told him, as the man, we need a car, bro I'll grab us a car. And I had my own mental plans in my head and I was waiting on the car. Really, my first reaction after that type of rollover car accident is obviously to get out of

the car, because you're such a taste clarity escape. You want to be on to put your feeble solid ground. And when I got out, something just told me just to reach for my done. It was between my ankle, and I pulled it up and I put it on. The kind of told it to me, and then I out of the vehicle. This all happened literally inside it just I kind of rolled out of the vehicle and

I was looking for Jill and Ryan. Ryan just takes off as it is he sees that we're okay, and you know, I honestly I thought there was a chair to thinking away. Obviously there was a lot of officers and but you know we had gotten away in Florida. Former Wallsonburgh police Chief Jim Chamberlain was one of the first to confront the Doughertyes. The driver got out and he started running, and I believe that was Ryan. I'm

the youngest. So I got out of my patrol car and went around the back, jumped over the guard rail, went down the embankment, kind of running after him. First, I yelled at him, stop police. He was in a full sprint. I could see both hands. It didn't look like he had a gun on him, so I was like, Okay, well, I guess he's gone. So I turned to look and that's when I said Lee Grace coming down the embankment and she had something in her hands, and at that

time I couldn't really tell what it was. So I was just running and I felt a presence or I heard a noise behind me, and I just turned and I just, for some reason something just told me, you know, get this cough away from you. I've heard something. I don't remember exactly what he said. I'm sure he was stop freeze, I'm going to shoot. And I just raised up my gun to him too, getting him away for me to push him away, do you know, to war him,

Dylan crawled around to the rear of the car. I was trying to climb into the back of the car and the trunk of the car. You know, I had no shoes, so I was trying to get a pair of shoes out of the trunk of the car. And once I've heard them, and I was like looking over the edge of that, you know. You know, the trunk was really high in the air too, and I was

wondering why my arm wasn't working. I kept trying to grab the trunk and like kind of like you know, voice myself up, you know, reach into the trunk on my right arm, which just wasn't really there wasn't a lot of movement that in it. And I remember looking up that lawn rampanty and I remember one of them had a twelve gage Have you ever looked at a twelve gage barrel? But it's it's you know, it's it's about the side of your thumb, you know, in diameter. And the other one had I think one of them

had a a r kid leeen. Another one had a what's called mini fourteen whist, you know, a ruger, you know, kind of like assault rifle. I was looking at the stuff those gun barrels, and they were coming down the thing. They were stringing it up like, oh my ground, weren't blow your bodies back down? Well. A group of officers were focused on Dylan. Chief Chamberlain set his sights. Only

Grace had my gun out. UM started focusing on her. Um. She was doing so many with her hands that looked like to me, she was trying to get the action of a gun. Talked back to start shooting, yelled at her. Police dropped the gun, Police dropped the gun, Police dropped the gun. And the third time I said that, she looked up at me and stopped and spread her legs a little bit. Started reason the gun that she had towards me, and I fired two rounds at her, hit her.

She spun around, dropped the gun and fell on the ground. So I started moving up on her because she still had the gun next to her, and all of a sudden, I'm shot. I'm just rolling around like an animal. It's extreme pain, like hot fire poker. It's just throw my leg and I'm just screaming, and you know, I can kind of sense my brother dealing close to me. But I'm trying to figure out where he got. The other

brother was by the trunk. He kept looking in the trunk for something, so I told him get out of the trunk, get on the ground, and he kind of looked at me over his shoulder, but I still had my gun pointed at his sister because she still had the gun next to her. Then I heard the shot, and I heard the grace kind of like collar and screaming it, and I got right back up off the ground, looked up at him again, told him to get on

the ground. He turned, got down on his knees, looked over and saw where his sister was stood up and started walking towards her. And that's when I transitioned my gun from her to him and told him to get on the ground, put his face on the pavement where

I'll shoot him too, But Dylan defied the police. Once I got up, I walked over to the other side of the on ramp, you know, like to from one guard rail to the other, and I looked over down the hill and Lee Race was there, and she was kind of like rolling around on the ground and she was given the offense and Navy salute of sorts and she was like holding her butt and I was like, wow, unless she's holding her button pussing at the guy, so

she's obviously not dead. The whole time they were screaming at me to get down, and I kind of like blocked out that with their verbal assault on me, and then I kind of like I turned and started looking back up the eggs a ramp at the officers and once to and I started here and there directives to get down on the ground. And by this point they had closed the distance and they were maybe andy year sixte me away. You know, they weren't real close, but they were close enough for me to have seen them.

And at that point I was just like, man, I said, well, I said, I really don't want to die heart kind of the road ground. I went down to just drop down on my knees and then kind of just sort of fell forward on the ground, and you know, the name rushed up on me and go with about in chief Chamberlayne ran over to Lee Grace and then I asked her to re hit. He said yes. I asked her where she said in the hip. I was like, okay,

so I'm looking. There's no gushing blood or anything, so I grabbed her, turn her over handcuffer, and while I'm handcuffing her, I looked up and I saw it like seven or eight law enforcement officers up on top of the overpass or not the overpass, but beyond ramp, and they were all, you know, rifles and shotguns and tacked to all vests and stuff. And I'm like, well, I know over half those guys, so hopefully I'm not gonna

get shocked. Right is gone? Ryan just takes off like running through this feel all I see is like just coming up behind him with his boots. I think Dylan had injuries. He had a fractured arm or fractured although maybe his arm was broken. I just see Ryan to take off just like a rocket, and he's just falling off of these work boots, and then he's gone. He just disappeared. He ran so fast across that field. And then all of a sudden, I'm on the right with

under screaming in pain. And that was just the situation. Everything happened so fast. It was like a dream. You know, you're movie, but you don't person his control of your limbs and I sure we're looking for the sky is being covered with her Chief Chamberlain was on vacation that day, but when he heard the Docerts were shooting at officers, he joined the pursuit, and with fourteen years on the forest, it was only the second time in the line of

duty that he had fired a gun. So I went from thinking that I was just going to be back up to oh, crept, there they all are, no vest I was in a T shirt and jeans, nothing really that I identified me as a police officer. Meanwhile, Ryan fled across a four lane highway. I remember seeing my sister gets shot, not like her whole body, I just happened to remember, like from her lower body. I remember seeing like the front of her jeans, like a puff

of the material of the jenes Un. And all this is as I jumped over the side of the guard rail. And then there was a barbed wire fence like about eight or ten feet away from there, and I ran fast as they could. But I knew I wasn't gonna be you know, I don't have mad hops. I'm not gonna be able to clear the top of this barb wire fence. I superman threw it. Ryan had no idea that Dylan was in custody, and he was determined to

follow Dylan's plan. I try and run for a gas station that's across the street, because they have cars sitting there and like some of them look like they're still running because it's a little called out in the exhausted coming out, and I don't see anybody in the car, so I'm in assuming that what they did is had

their car on pulled up to the gas station. It's a kind of Poe dunk enough area to where the people are still trusty enough to leave their keys in car running, go inside, grab a pack of smokes and the drink, and come back and get back in their car and leave. So I'm going to go snap someone's car because ours is come back around the interstate exit, run over whoever I have to run over and pick

up my brother and sister. Ryan did not count on the bravery of some ordinary citizens who just happened to see him. Here's one of them, David Vostitch. He ran towards this little diner that was that's just right off the highway there by a truck stop, and I just

happened to be coming down this other road. I had my mom in the truck with me, and we come down the road there and there was this guy standing in the middle of the road right in front of me, and I noticed there was a bunch of people outside the diner, and I slowed way down, and this guy tried to open up the door when I drove by on my truck. Ryan continues, one of the cars that

I've seen, like a nice little markety Grand Marquis. I fucking like old lady goes and gets into our fucking car, and I'm like, ship, I can't you know, I still have screw booth. I'm like, funk, I can't dump this lady out onto our face to get her car, you know what I'm saying. And I just kept running because they seemed like a little Honda that was across the street, park right in front of the fucking Dominoes, and you know, look like I had exhaust make bone out of it.

David picks up the story. So I told my mom, I said, I don't know what's going on. We ain't gonna have nothing to this. So I spun around there and I noticed people were chased him across the road. Then I don't know what come over me. I just you know, I saw a couple of guys were chasing him, and I thought I jumped out of the truck and

went after. I thought the guy robbed a diner. It wasn't very long when I caught up to him, because when he fun around and he acted like he had a gun in his hands right there, I was already jumping over a fence going after him. And that's when he tried to take that shortcut through that pawn in there. I remember telling him, don't go down in there, and he went down through there, and I told him, you're

fucking idiot. I remember that now we're running through that stuff, because when he was gonna go down in there, I think he thought that that was just a pawn and he was gonna just get out there in the middle of the pond and not letting anybody get to him. And then he just sunk because he turned and got right out of it right away, and that's when he drove off down in the brush there, and and then that was when I was right on him. When he got out of that brush, I was right there on him.

We're going to take a quick break here. We'll be back in a moment. Producer Beth Greenwall to speaks with Ryan. How long were you running for? Do you think four minutes? Maybe? And did you have to go through any brush? Yeah? Actually fucking ran through like a bullshit, like a spill over pepe of pond for like sucking cows and ship and like just ran through some ship bramble brush fucking three four tall like sage brush, just like scrub brush shit.

Here again is David Bustich. One of the guys stayed behind because he was on the phone with the dispatcher and the other guy. I don't know where he went at the time. I caught up with the guy there in the arroyo there, and when I caught up to him, I told me he's to quit running, and he told me, well, if I don't, they're gonna kill me. They're gonna kill me. I don't like nobody's gonna kill you. But you don't

need you know. I told him, you didn't need to scare my mom in the truck like he did, trying to jerk the door open and stuff. And the other guy was yelling at me, you just need to take him down, just take him down. You need to catch him. So I just brought him to the ground right there, and he put up a little fight and I was able to hold him down on the ground there and he kind of just gave up. Then he said, I'm done. I'm done. Runned. Ryan was covered in sewage from the pond,

and he was exhausted. As I was running from the bushes from here to there, I kind of smoked out. You know, I'm not a fantastic tat conditioning or whatever. I'm not a fucking runner at heart, and like the adrenaline only pushes you so far and then your body mackes out so like slowed to like a slow trot. And some random Captain Savaho type fucking weirdo people tried to like follow me, and you know, eventually I just gave up. I was like, fuck it. You know, there's

not there's nothing left to do. There's nothing left here to do. Here again is David Lucetich. We escorted him up out of that arroya because none of the officers could find us. We were way probably a couple miles away from from the accident by then, and we walked him out back out to the road there so they

could find us. In A state patrolman finally come down the road there and he saw us out there, and we flagged him down and he came over and jumped on the guy, and the two civilions brought me to the side of the road with him, and the fucking cops and paramedics were there, and like the cops helped me pinned down with some guns. I remember him cuffing manship and kneeling on my back, on my neck and fucking drive my face into the dirt. And then remember

the paramedics syn care. I remember the paramedics being like super nice to me. I'm a charming guy no matter who it is, and I'm around and I managed to charm them and and they were really nice to me and then meant a lot. That was cool. When did you realize that this guy had been on, you know, multi state chase? At this point, I didn't know anything about him. See, I live out here on a ranch and the news isn't the biggest thing to turn on in the house at the time. I had no clue

who they were. I didn't even know any of that was going on. I didn't even know there was a high speed chase going on with them shooting at the officers. Me and my mom were going to run back into town and get gas for the four wheeler, so she kind of just jumped in the truck with me and we went back into town there, and it was just crazy there. I never never seen so many news vehicles in my life down here in this small little town.

And I pulled into the gas station and there was news people like running up on me, and I'm like, well, gee, I don't know what this guy, you know, did and everything else, and they're all want to ask me questions and stuff. And that's when like, I don't know if you want to call him, like the head of the state patrol, and I think a cb I officer came

up to me and wanted to talk to me. So they pulled me into the hotel there and they put me in a room there and then they explained to me what had been going on with these people and stuff. Then I was just sitting there kind of like all in shock, like wow, okay, this just happened. Chief Jim

Chamberlain picks up the story. The state troopers got over there and assisted as well to get him handcuffed, even though he turned around a couple of times and made a motion like he had a gun, but they didn't see a gun, so they took him into custody and troopers got him and then they loaded him up into an ambulance and took him to the hospital with Ryan and custody. The chase was finally over. I wanted to let you know we've got our crime senior and route

to the fifty two right now. We also Colorado City, Okay. Former Colorado FBI agent Phil Nidringhouse was assigned to the Dockerty case. When they landed in Colorado, the FBI radar room told me that they had said, you know, shots fired, pursued happening, and then they updated me and said that

vehicle crash and all free in custody. At that point I got on the phone and I was talking to my boss and he said, well, whyn't you just keep going and go down there and see what you can do to help out and handle the media stuff down there. A fleet of flashing lights ended the family affair for the Doherty gang because they were taken into custody Wednesday and put low Colorado. We continuously said that these three fugitives wanted a battle with law enforcement. We will win

that battle and that's what happened today. Ryan, Dylan, and Lee Grace Dockerty were all arrested and brought to a local hospital. Here's Dylan. They were dragging me out of there and put me on a stretcher board and took me to the hospital. And I don't really remember a lot of that. They kind of had my head to take to that. I think I was he handcuffed to it, perhaps leg shackle too. I really don't remember exactly what all restraints they had put on me, although I was,

you know, ratchet strapped into that. I think the paramics and they showed up. They probably took one look at the car and too well, he really shouldn't be up walking around, you know. I remember a nurse leaned over me, and you know, because my mom was a nurse for thirty five years, I was like, sweete, better cover your ears. And I think she knew what I was gonna do, so she covered her ears and I yelled for Len Grayson. Ryan.

You know, I just told him I loved him, and then the tops of gos shot out and you know, I'll be quiet, you know, And and but I said when I wanted to say, and they heard me and then they yelled back. It was just really weird, the whole car accident, and you know, the couples were all they were there before the dust you know, I have even finished billowing to its height, you know what I mean.

They were there as a car crashed, and you know, some of the officers were like, man, we thought we were just coming up on some dead people in that car. And then he's like, and we get up there, you have already jumped out, you know, running in seventeen different directions, and we were fortunate. I'm not for sure on you know what the rest of my life is gonna unfold to be, but you know, I guess that we weren't meant to guy in a car accident. Let's stop here

for another quick break. We'll be back in a moment. The siblings mother, Barbara Belle, told us how she felt when she found out her children were captured. I was so sure that they one of them probably had been shot, or maybe all of them, that I couldn't even walk. I crawled to the door in my filthy T shirt. And the person who ran the campground was very kind to us. He came up and said, they got him.

They're all alive, and I was very relieved to hear that, but of course there was so much misinformation bandied about. I had no idea that all three of my children had been injured. My one son had a broken arm, my youngest had sprained ankle, and my daughter had been shot in the leg which barely missed her femoral artery. And I didn't find out all the details until later. I was extremely hard to find anything out from anybody because her phone was compromised. And I think I'm going

to stop there on that. I can't Devastation doesn't even describe it on how I felt, and I'm sure I just I was baffled. I couldn't understand. Pascal County Sheriff Chris Naco was tracking the Docerty case from Florida. Beth spoke with him. So you surprised that they were caught alive. I mean they were still running and still trying to fight until that last moment. We all had a very strong understanding that just you know, it wasn't gonna end.

He fully that we believed it was gonna be all outshoot out, which you know, officers out in Colorado had a shoot you know again they're shooting. Thank god, the officers were okay, you know, no, any loss of life is horrible, you know, no, I wants any loss of life out there. Detective Tim Harris, also from Pascal County, Florida, remembers when he got the call that the docrities were caught.

When we've finally got the information that they had been apprehended, that there was a pursuit situation, that there was a shootout. We had heard that Lee Grace had gotten shot, and uh, you know, obviously the wheels began to go in motion, myself and Detective Medley to fly out to Colorado because now we had all three of them in custody and our intentions were to do interviews with them to solidify or to gain evidence in our case here in Zephyr Hills.

So Detective Medley and I immediately got on a plane that afternoon and we arrived out in Denver late that night, and we met with law enforcement counterparts from Weblo County Sheriff's Office that we had reached out to make arrangements for us to meet up with them the next morning, which we did, and then we were able to set up the interviews from there with the three siblings and custody. The media frenzy picked right back up. Three Pasco County siblings on the run for just over a week have

been captured. The Doughty Gang, Ryan, Lee, Grace, and Allan were caught this morning your Pueblo, Colorado after a high speed chase. The three were spotted at a shopping center in Colorado City this morning. Authorities say that led to a twenty mile long chase at speeds of over a hundred miles an hour. They finally crashed into a guardrail just south of the town of Wolfsonburg. Catasco County deputies

are in Colorado. They're waiting to question the Dorty Gang and the siblings, Ryan, Dillon and Lee Grace Dorty were arrested following a cross country man hunt and chase that ended in Colorado. It wasn't quite over yet, at least not for the docherties. Their problems, in fact, were only beginning. The judge has ordered that each of the siblings be held on more than a million dollars veil. And that's just where the charges here. Remember there are also those

in Florida and Georgia. If they are convicted of even one of these crimes, they could spend the rest of their young lives in prison. Things are moving fast, and Ryan Dougherty was starting to process the position he put his siblings in. They take us to the Annie jail. I thought it might have been the last time that I've seen my brother and sister, so I shouted out

to him. I was like, man, I love you guys, And then fucking cops were like shut out, like man, go fuck yourself, bro, and I was like, y'all, that'sh it again. I was, I love you guys. Three Pasco County siblings, wanted in Florida and also in Georgia, are being held on one point three million dollars bond a piece in Colorado. There each charge with attempted murder and assault on a police officer. Despite all the gunfire aimed

at law enforcement, fortunately no officers were hurt. As for the dorties, it remains unclear just which state we'll actually get to try them first. You know you're in trouble.

You're in trouble, you're in day troll, and you know that you and your brother's I was in like a county jail, and I remember one of the jailers came and gave me like a piece of paper, just came and gave it to me to say anything is hey, this is for you, and then added it to me and left and all it said on it was my son's name and his weight and you know that he was learned and whatnots crushing. More on that next time.

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