Common Ground
May 20, 2025•1 hr 5 min
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Episode description
Two governors walk into the Reagan Library and find common ground. Steve Hayes is joined by Utah Governor Spencer Cox (R) and New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham (D), to discuss bipartisanship, mutual respect, and the value of healthy conflict.
The Agenda:—Defining tribes—Media outrage and news cycles—We should all join bowling teams—We can’t explain policy in 280 characters—Intra-party tensions
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