I am Adam Lundy, co host of They Live by Film, a podcast dedicated to bringing you film discussion and interviews from around the world. Every week, my co hosts Chris Haskell, Zach Bryant and I discuss a wide range of films, from monumental classics like Vertigo and the Rules of the Game to the craziest schlockiest movies ever made like Deathbed and everything in between. We are also lucky enough to have sat down with some of the biggest players in the
boutique blu ray and film restoration game. If this is your thing, then come hang out with us every Thursday at seven pm Eastern wherever you normally stream your podcasts, and now as part of the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network. Hello there, and welcome back to the Disconnected. I'm here with Paul rust Rider, comedian, actor, extraordinary musician. Is probably one of the big things that I should throw in there as well, because I love a lot
of your music. So Paul, thanks for thanks for coming on here today. Oh thank you so much, Tryan for having me on your podcast. Much appreciate it. Thank you. I mean, I've got so many things I want to talk about tonight. But for the first thing, I currently live in Kansas City, Missouri, and you grew up not too too far away from here, from what I hear, not, yeah, exactly.
My senior high school senior road trip with me and three buddies, hitting the road and traveling what is it, five and a half hours from Northwest Iowa, Iowa to Kansas City and we stayed at a hotel. It got pretty wild. We stayed at a hotel that we drove back the next day. But you know you, I love Kansas City, my family who lives there, Oh my hitting up the Double Trouble of worlds of fun and oceans of fun. When I was a kid, you could applied me away from that
timber Wolf roller coaster. I loved it. The big city of Kansas City compared to tinytown I guess, oh truly though that was true. I mean, like to go to a Kansas City Royals game in that stadium and see that dazzling blue shining above me, and I mean nothing is better than I'm sure it's changed. I haven't been there in probably like twenty plus years, but it had like nineteen eighty five World Series winners emblazoned on the side. I was like, just to see that year be treated so respectfully, I
love it brought a tier to my eye. Well, I mean one of the things I guess we could talk about with that, how how do you make your way from tinytown, Iowa to where you're at? Now that's a big change. Yeah, well it's for us, this kookie love of this man. Oh, I wanted to save this before I forget. I wanted to share this on the podcast and say it on record, this observation I
have. It's cool that you live in Kansas City because he said that in the email and got me thinking, isn't because of the salt mines they hold like the prints of movies not but like Stanley Kubert that Warner Brothers does own, like the original cut of two thousand and one, and out of respect they never show it, but I think they could if they. I mean, it does exist in a Kansas City salt mine. It is the heart and soul of physical media. This is accurate and I mean funny enough.
One of the big things my day job I work for immigration actually and Kansas City is it's home of the Caves. They call it. It's the National Record Center literally in the side of a mountain. Here underground, we have like twenty six million different immigrant files that we keep here because it's the safest place to keep them. It's it's wild how many things are archived underground in
Missouri. That rules that you have a part of that because I've seen there's not much about it online, Like I don't know if it's like the CIA. They don't want to show anything that people can look at and then sneak in and get. But it's so funny because what I imagined it to be and what it looked like was vastly different, Like I imagine it was going to be like caves, like the holding a torch, and then when I went down there, I was like, oh, it's like at the end
of cabin in the woods that like Cybertronic all white, clear glass. It's cool. Yeh, it's wild. The Immigration center here that's underground. There you'll go you're basically inside a building and then you come around a corner and one of the walls is literally rock like it juts out into our hallway. It's it's pretty crazy because they don't want to mess with it. It's like, let's very cool. Well, congrats, I love that. Yeah, our archiving is a big part of my life, through and through, it
seems the bravo. But yeah, escaping, escaping somewhere like Lamar's is not is not easy. And I came from a small town kind of close to where you're at now. I actually grew up in Barstow, California. Oh Barstow. Of course it's an awful place. I hope nobody goes there ever. But yeah, leaving a town like that is hard. How were you able to break free? Was it difficult? Yeah? I must confess I was thinking about it before. I've I never challenged myself to ever go somewhere
new where I did it? No somebody before. I grew up in Lamars and then I went to the University of Iowa and I went with two buddies who I'm still buddies with, but like guys I grew up with since kindergarten. And I remember the first day I moved into my dorm room, I thought they hadn't moved in yet, and I was like, my heart was racing. I was like, who am I gonna be with now? Yeah?
I found other friends at college, but like it, that softened the blow and then after the University of Iowa, was like, oh, I wanted to go to Chicago because of Second City and the I was familiar going visit my sister there who went to DePaul and I would go see fun comedy shows. So I thought, Oh, that's where to go. And then a lot of my friends I met at the University of Iowa, three friends, they lived out in la and I'm like, you don't know anybody in
Chicago, Yount, you should come out to Los Angeles. So I moved out there and I realized the and then I really leaned on them, you know, stayed at their apartment until I found a place, and they helped me, hooked me up with temp jobs and stuff. But I did have one person angrily say to me, like fifteen years ago, like you've never challenged yourself and never had to go alone somewhere. I was like, it's true, it's true. Well, I mean this tells a different story,
like the power of networking. You got to make friends, You got to make you know, find people that you can rely on and trust. That's a big deal too, That's true. And you know, personally I hated all of them. It disgusted me to even be around them, but it was just the fact that they were present and helping me out. Then I was like, okay, okay, I'll forgive that. I loathly just kiddy to break into everything. Just be selfish, that's right. Friends first,
friends forever of course. Of course, Well, and sadly that's the dark side of getting anywhere through some of these businesses. You have to just simply know people sometimes. But I mean, making that first geographic step is kind of the hardest part for a lot of people. Yeah, and then, uh, when I I could imagine that being true and if I had not had that, and then yeah, when I moved to Los Angeles, I started doing open mics with my friends that I met at Iowa, Neil Campbell
and Michael Cassidy. Neil Campbell who's a very talented and writer performer in his own right, and Michael Cassidy also talented. And then my band Don't Stop Her Will Die. We're still all a creative crew together. Yeah, after we did open mics, it was right when the UCB Theater had come to Los Angeles, and uh, it was one of those I think if I had moved to LA like a year later, I would have missed out on
sort of a opening gap where they were no false modesty. They were allowing some less talented folks and through the door because they needed that calendar filled. And I did everything I could to fill every square like a little rat. And then uh yeah, and so I started performing there and then meeting friends and doing stuff with them, and uh but yeah, it was the move. Probably was. I remember, just to give an example of how it
was different. When I first moved to Los Angeles, I needed a key maid when I got my new apartment, like a double me and my friend Adam needed a key maid, and I went to get a double made, and I was like, oh, well, where do you get one made? I was like, of course, Walmart. So I googled ball B and I was like, okay, fifteen miles away from here, seems unusual, but sure. I got out of my car and I drove like an hour and a half outside like the La County line to a Walmart, and
I'm like going up these weird escalators. It was like a retrofitted former mall, and then it turned into a Walbart and I got up and I got the key changed, made the double made, and then of course. Like as I'm driving back from Walmart to my apartment, I passed through like hundreds of key stores. It's like every quarter. So there was some shifts I had to make. Did you do you live anywhere between? Did you bop
around? Were you in Barstow and then Kansas City or I well, kind of, I actually grew up the first five or six years of my life down. I was born in Pomona, so just outside of LA and then lived in Upland for a little while, moved to Barstow, and then I moved to Kansas City site unseen about eleven years ago. Now, oh cool, that's awesome. Did do you still have a family around a different areas? This is a funny story because Barstow, if you've driven through there probably
I'm sure you have at least once. Anybody that's ever driven through Barstow knows it sucks. It looks like just the worst, Like how does anybody live in this hell whole type of town? I mean that fully, like with
everything in me. We moved here and we're the only one that could leave, Like talking about how hard it is to leave small towns, and somehow we've gotten not exaggerating here, both of our families and like somewhere between ten and fifteen friends to all move to Kansas City after us because we were the anchor. They would come and stay with us, right six months, find their own place. And now we've got our whole everybody here. That's great.
Well, it's a fantastic place to live. And I've not just saying this, I've said it before, which is like the if I could live in the rolling green hills of Iowa and the under the big blue, bright blue skies, I would if I could also, you know, auditioned for parts in Drake and Josh. How am I going to do that? Living in a beautiful part of the country. At least there's no controversies rounding anybody from Drake and Josh in the news in the last three months. Yeah.
Literally, My first speaking acting job I booked was awed Drake and Josh, where I played a guy who at a science fair he has a watermelon lamp with a working light bulb and they say to this guy, Hey, hey, dude, you had a watermelon lamp last year. You know what I you know what my character said, but this one is seedless. Hey, all right, get that zag Card being hired by monsters might be able to get health insurance this year. Nice yes, by the grace of a monster.
Oh gosh. And I mean around that time, I imagine it probably wasn't quite as difficult to break through as it is now. It's wild how much stuff has changed already in the last eighteen years. But the Internet becoming so big and streaming of course without a doubt. I remember right before YouTube, remember Google Video was trying to fight it out or throw their elbows trying to You'd watch some stuff on it and it'd be like, this might be
the wave of the future. And then YouTube obviously, and then yeah, it's interesting because or interesting to me. But when internet comedy like hit not that the talents were comparable, but it reminded me of stories I would hear about, like after Nirvana hit it big, anybody who had like a rag band, major labels were like signing up like the Lonely Island hit it big, like they carved, like they're the greats, they originated what this is.
And then TBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, is like, we're gonna do this super deluxe dot com and it's like, y'all don't understand this is gonna go to you. Everybody's going to YouTube. Yeah, and that lesson still is it be learned three times o verright now people are like they're always just gonna go to the main shoot or whatever. The you know, it's had the least resistance too. Yes, yes, exactly. So yeah,
that like shook out. But it also was great in terms of there was this thing a Channel one oh one that was going on in Los Angeles, and Drew Carey was paying for the bandwidth so people pre YouTube could put up their TV series. He was amazing. Yeah, and was he always been just this amazing person. I know, I know Drew carries the weight of all of our burdens. That's a nice way. It was an easy pun. I love it too easy. You have you have some very specific projects
I would love to dive deep into if that's okay. This is I've got a decent sized audience, but this is probably only gonna be for like six of them. I personally grew up in Marching Band, so I adored Scott and I am so jealous that you were on the Aquabat Super Show. What the fuck? How was that? Oh? That's great? I thought you were gonna mention too. I played a sky loving character in an episode of Brooklyn nine nine, so I was going to get there after aquabats. But
aquabats are fucking legendary. Do insult you? Of course, just alphabetically, aqua Bats comes before Brooklyn nine nights. Of course, obviously you always interview in alphabetical order. No, yeah, that was. It was such a thrill. It was like five days in the Santa Clarita area, which is just like great Seami Valley, sort of beautiful, big mountains and uh uh hanging and hanging out with like five sweetie pies. Uh, I'm just saying
that the amount of band members, it's not if there's six. I don't mean to say there were five and you're like, no, who's he? All of them were and uh it was really fun because it was a lot of just thinking about it now. Uh. It was a lot of homemade aesthetic stuff, which I really appreciated. And then obviously like their sense of humor and spirit was great. And then but yeah, that a friend who
was friends with them. They asked her if they'd asked me, and she asked me and I said yes, they were said Okay, So I came and did it. It was fun nice. I grew up listening to them, watching them. I growing up in the desert, Like nobody ever played up there. So I drive down to Pomona, Upland and some of those places, squatch some of these big shows. But man, Aquabat's always put on a hell of a show. Yeah. So you got to see them
for four live. Yeah, and they're still like they're coming to Kansas City in like four months. I'm thinking, like maybe I could take my kids this time at rules. Oh my gosh, Hey, how old are your kids? If you don't mind me asking, I have a nine year old and about to be eight year old in August. Yes, hey that's awesome. Well birthdays are exciting when you're eight. So hey, that's cool. Well, I mean, good transition. Not to put you on the spot.
Both of my kids are special needs, two autistic kids, and one of them has ADHD. And I have ADHD. And I read that you struggled with OCD. Was that was that something that was true? Yeah? In probably started emerging around third or fourth grade, kind of like and it's like many things, it started off where organizing it felt so good and like, uh. And it wasn't like anything about like germs or cleanliness or anything like that my mom wishes, my parents wish it was about cleanliness and hygiene.
It was. It was like a yeah, organizing, prioritizing and making lists and stuff. And at first it felt good and then after a while it started just like commanding everything and it was no fun. After a while, I was just like, oh, this is taking I thought this was
about efficiency and it's the opposite of efficiency. And then my parents, who are very open and open minded and loving, they made sure I went and got on some medication, which did help without a doubt that plus you know, going and talking to a counselor shaking that all out and figuring out like having the space with the meds to be able to go, Okay, I'm gonna have a little clearance here to get through it. And it worked. So when I say this, it's not like but it was this. It's
now been canceled. They took it off the market, this med And I've encountered other people in my life who had took this in like high school and stuff. Wow, and they're like, oh my god, did you just sleep the whole time, I was like, yes, like something like it like talks you up and then the other timbit that you'll share when somebody finds out like, oh, you also took it, it's like, hey,
uh kind of a bummer. How when Columbine happened and they did autopsies of the two Columbine killers, the only thing they had in their system was that they're like, what were these boys on? Let's see what you know cooked them up to do such a thing. It's like, oh, yikes, okay, well hopefully we'll send a memo. But it did. I shouldn't even bring that up because it worked for me. But I mean typical big form of they cancel it because of the marketing. Probably I think so.
I think so. Probably it was not good. You're not good marketing. Yikes. No, I primarily, like I've talked about this on here before, somebody that struggles with ADHD and is still like trying to be hyper productive with as much as I can be. It's important to show people you can
still do things when you've got stuff going on in your own life. And uh, it's it's nice to see, especially from somebody from a small town that was struggling with that that you can have resources, you can have a supportive family, you can find your way to to make it big and run your own Netflix show. I mean that's that's no, that yeah, that's right on. Yeah, I appreciate not just you say that about me, but all people. That's yeah, it's it's nice the aspect of you know,
also in one's work. Yeah, if that can be I don't want to say it's like hardesting the power of lightning or something like that, but like if it can be put to good uh and and not in a destructive way like there's there's a power in it too. So yeah, well, and not to mention as a writer, I'm sure that the just the I don't know, the unique experience of that can lend itself to right realistic feeling characters, which, unfortunately for a lot of us that are neurodivergent, we
struggle with some of those. But other people that are seemingly just perfect don't ever have to deal with those. Hey, I saw a shirt once that said po Buddy's nerfect. So I've heard that anybody's perfect. Yeah yeah, yeah, well Tom Cruise would make a differ Brooklyn nine nine. You brought up that episode. You brought up Andy's comedy Troop earlier. How was how
was working on that? Because man, that that show started to take off around when you were on it. Yeah, it's funny with right when a series gets distributed and people are watching it as it's coming out, and yeah, it ruled. Hey, my friend Neil Campbell, he's a writer and producer of the show. He hooked me up. But it was fun getting to do sco stuff. I got to do a little rude boy dance. I got to wear a little pork pie hat. Trying to remember. It
filmed on a at a real high school. And I always appreciate when when you're an ere area with like adolescents or whatever, it's really great how little they could care about what anybody's It really is like a nice refresher when you come to where you're like, this is important work what they're doing, and they're looking at you like you guys are a holes. You know, you're just an inconvenience for them. Basically. Yeah, yeah, but Andy,
he rules man. He Andy Samberg is now a co creator on dig Man show that Neil Campbell he's the other co creator and dig Man is this amazing animated series that's about that's like a comic riff on Indiana Jones style adventure National Treasurer style stories. And the highest compliment I can give it is that every joke is different every episode. There's not like two puns like they'll have one,
you know, it's like it's very impressive. And the little mcguffins in each episode they could be real deal of mcguffins and a real deal Anyanna Joseph. They're not goofing around, They're like really cool. So do you even just like love that sort of stuff. It's a fun show to watch. Amazing amazing Netflix. I brought it up streaming and all that has been such a huge, huge influence surrounding the industry of the last few years. But
two things primarily that are a big deal on your resume. I'd love to talk about Paul Rubens a little bit. Of course, you get to write a movie with him. How was that process? Because this is somebody that a lot of us grew up with, grew up respecting, and then in the twenty tens decades after you probably saw his face for the first time, you get to suddenly go to work with this man like that that's got to be a dream come true. Yeah, it was a dream coach true.
And you know you saying you get to see this guy after seeing him years. That truly was like the first two like session writing sessions or meeting him. It was really just me looking at him and his mouth movie and being like that's pee wee who's talking, But that's also Paul like I had, Like true, it took like eight hours with him before I could like lock into like a reality of But no, he was definitely the Yeah, like you said, I mean just meant so much to me growing up. He
was why I loved comedy. And when he passed away, he you could tell anybody who was creative and cool. It was like David Bowie or Prince or something. It was like when he passed away, the love came from I feel like a special place from people who It's the really kind of cool alchemy between this misfit is speaking for a misfit feeling I have, but the work is trans is so great, it kind of transcends that. So like Grandma's you don't like listen to David Bowie songs and like you know what,
like it's really cool what they managed to pull off. So I think losing that sort of creative spirit in the world is great. There was nobody else like him. And I'm trying to think of something because I have so many memories that I could share with him, but I don't think I've ever shared this. I'll just do it here for you. He told me he was once at a party and he turned a corner and this would have been maybe
the mid to late eighties, and Bob Dylan was there. He was star struck by Paul and was like, I am a really big fan of yours and Paul was like, oh, thank you, thank you. Now think about that. Bob Dylan doesn't give it up for anybody, and he ate crossing roofs to tell people and shake their hands. Anybody who's still living, I mean, anybody he would do that for is like long dead. But
he recognized this guy is the man. He's doing the thing that you know Bob Dylan did, which is just like brought whatever his unique spirit to to to the public. It's really cool what he pulled off. Paul is he's one of those like I hate to use word character because this sounds to meaning, but I mean, he is such like a bigger than this room type of character no matter where he's at, and he's one of those that is
accepting of everybody. And so because of that, it feels like most people that grew up around that time have at least one story where you're like, fuck, yeah, I really love that and I felt like it was okay and cool to do that, and that's a lot of people aren't like that. There's so much like gate keeping bullshit around that, Like Jim Henson is probably one of the only other ones that I can put up there similar like he just wants everybody to be happy, like mister Rogers type of feeling exactly
exactly, I think, you know. To that point, there is like a very pivotal moment in the first five to ten minutes of Peee's Big Adventure that decides everything, which is u pee Wee. It's a small moment, but pee Weee comes out and he starts up his sprinkler and he calls out to the neighbor like hey, I'm gonna water my lawn now, and the
neighbor goes. He smiles, he loves it. He's like, okay, pee Wee, and he closes the window and pee Wee turns up the sprinkler and it sprays all over the guy's glass, and the movie makes it a point. They take time and the editing to show the neighbor behind the glass laughing. He loves it, And I can't think of any other comic character who that's the choice is he does something and everybody loves it. It's usually the like shaking the fists your fist at Ernest, what it Earnest get us
into. But uh, I love her, I don't get me wrong, but uh but yeah, he he found a way to make that really funny, and you gotta imagine it's some sort of utopia for him, that that that was the idea that everybody could uh you know, do their own thing and everybody would find it interesting rather than threatening or I man, I swear
I could just gush over Paul for like the next hour. But there's there's something about getting to work with somebody like that that I'm insanely jealous, but also just I can't imagine how like writers' rooms for the rest of your life will be affected by what you were able to feel during that time. Yeah, it's true. And getting to sit you know, side by side and
writing with him. It's a Before I met him, I tried writing a script that was like, oh, I'm going to try to write a Peewee style script because I was I mean, any big adventures like my favorite movie, favorite comedy, and I was like oh, And I tried to write it. I remember it was really long and boring and not funny. And when I met Paul and we started working together, I was like, Oh, this is great. I'm gonna find out, like what the secret sauce
is. I discovered it's a It helps when you're a genius, like like like, oh, that's what it is. Paul's brilliant. You can't just do uh. But he it was all about minimalism. And his whole thing was I don't when I write something, I don't want somebody on page twenty five ta have to think and go back to page ten and to know what they're talking about. And so the descriptions were always really clean, and the
dialogue was like spare. And so I'll think about that a lot, not if I'm in a writer's room or anything, but just reading a script or watching something in a TV movie and I'm like, oh, this feels a I don't know if the word is target or if that's the right when something's slow or something like my response here, sorry, you are fine speaking of brilliance and not to like worship you too too much for just a moment I
was. I was an early convert to love. For anybody who's never seen it, three seasons on Netflix, one of in my opinion, one of the great modern, like very indie feeling comedies that you don't get the option to see through like modern sitcoms, because it's something that had to have a chance taken on it. But one of the things I wanted to lead into with this is it's clearly incredibly personal. It's you, your wife, There's
so much put into it. How just first of all, how do you get something like that out of you and onto the screen for everybody when it means visibly so much to you. I can't imagine behind the scenes, like how much that actually takes out of you. Oh well, thank you Ran for your kind words. First of all, Yeah, the well, yeah, My was co created with my wife, Leslie Arfin, and myself and
Judd Apatow. The three of us wrote it together and it was based on Leslie and I wrote a treatment for an idea about two people who are similar to those characters who decide to move in together and it's too early, but they decide to And we pitched that and Jud like the characters a lot and like the relationship, and he said, oh, I've had this idea for a long time of wanting to do a TV show that's about one relationship. So he asked if we'd want to work on that, take these characters and
apply it to that. So then the three of us started writing that and uh yeah, in terms of it being personal, you know, it is uh well, uh you know for starters. The I loved working on the show in the process. It was great period. And the sharing personal parts of oneself in order, you know, knowing that that's like, uh in sort of what Judd makes that that stuff when it when the choice is to be personal, it's best to be as as as possible. It's funny.
They're really kind of exaggerated Leslie and I. When we first started writing it, jud was like, well, you guys kind of are healthy, you go to therapy, you talk about this stuff. It's like they can't be there. You should have them way further before they're you know, have any sort of insight with each other, and so so we uh we did like figure out like, oh, what's kind of the most comically exaggerated versions of
each character. I and Leslie and I were both very conscious that when making something about that that people would watch and go, oh, you could see connections to real life. It's really easy to go or we never wanted to go down the path of Gus. My character writes a song and everybody goes like, Gus is a great guy and he wrote a great song and we
love him like that was an added hump to like writing it. I'm to answer your question of like writing personally, that was the hump that was hard for me to get over, which is if I just wrote a character who was original and nothing about me, I would give them more credit and I would let them do nicer things and kinder things, but like not wanting to like be like this is about us and this is why we're really great like so, and I think the choices that were made were all correct, But
watching it, I'm like, oh, yeah, this show goes harder on ourselves and maybe we should maybe we could have been easy. Now I'm really happy with how it turned out. But and just to what you were saying about streaming and stuff, in the similar vein of Lonely Island kicked down the door so others may pass through. Just something happened around twenty eleven or twelve thirteen with Lena Dunham with girls like taking the in the best way possible.
She rules, and if I was her, I would be sitting back and thinking all mfors got shows based on what I put out there. I mean, Louis had a precedent to it, but I don't know, I really feel like she laid out the blueprint of how somebody does their point of view comic show in this day and age where it's not corny, and people did different things with it stylistically and stuff. But it just so happened that streaming Netflix that all was a cooking right when she was giving everybody the recipe.
So you know, again not trying no false modesty, but it's similar to the UCB thing of like they need encounter filled. With Netflix, it was like, oh my god, they just have deep archives that need to be filled. And so that was But yeah, now what twenty twenty four streaming services people are outside of Netflix, people are what would you say, scratching their heads? Is that the best way to put it. People are scratching their heads. It's a good way to put it. We'll go down that
path a little more in a minute. I'm sure good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your show was one of the first shows to unfortunately be like it's tied to the whole Netflix does three seasons and it's over sort of thing. And I think it made sense with Love. It felt like it felt like a really nice bow on the end of it. But I mean not that Read Hastings is one of my biggest viewers or anything. But how was it working with Netflix? Did it feel like a decent arena for you?
Oh? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were down for whatever we were stoked to do. And I'm sure that had so much to do with Judd the working relationship, But even when he's not wasn't present, the relationship was strong. I felt that it was like, oh, I'm around people who love movies and TV shows, which was like not always apparent in
other production companies and studios. You'd be sitting there and be like, I think you figured out a formula about wedding crashers and you're trying to repeat this, is that what this meeting is about, Like where it's like meeting with Netflix, there's people who were just like gaga about getting to get to do
this cool thing. The it's interesting with the Yeah, in terms of the process and stuff, because with what you were saying about the three seasons, I've heard Yeah that people I don't know if this is true, but it does sound like some kind of wheel got wrapped around the axle where people who were audiences don't want to get into a show unless they know there's a bunch of them and it finishes ye. But streaming services don't want to green light
a show unless they know people are watching. And so I do think those two kind of different things that they get into logger heads. It seems like HBO has figured out still where it's like putting a new episode out every Sunday right before people go back and see other human beings as a pretty smart way like get people stoked for a thing. But I don't know if you're going to bring this up. But it's also you know, we got to do a lot of Blu Ray talk on love and so we're talking about like a
character goes like, why would you need these blue rays? Everything's on the internet anyway, which we were like took some perverse delight, but like ye calling it. But then the next season she finds like a Blockbuster card in my wallet and she's like, oh, all the cool people I knew like worked at Blockbuster, and it's true, like I remember think of that, and but then Blockbuster was dead and doing it on a streaming sery it just seemed like rubbing it in. I felt terrible. I always loved that.
And the there's I think there's one of the scenes in an early season you have a whole bunch like a giant stack of DVDs or something. Yeah, yes, this was a great one. Yes, the right the I'm getting rid of them, I'm throwing them out. But I don't know if I if you know this, but my first after like some logging transcribing jobs for reality TV shows, I hit the jackpod of getting to log and transcribe raw video footage for behind the scenes features on DVDs. Nice and I love that
job. It was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's some real Fly on the Wall stuff. Speaking of Fly on the Wall and love, just a cool little bit of Trivia, one of my friend's bands. His song is actually in Love. There's a Yeah, there's a scene where you walk into a coffee shop, a non district, nondescript coffee shop, and it's his is the one playing in the shop. Yeah, what's the band? What's a Crusoe c r U s o E. He's been on the
channel before too. Yeah. I was helping Funny Enough with marketing for his band back then, and he was like, Hey, my band's gonna be on this show Love that's coming out on Netflix next month. We gotta hype it up and like all the marketing for it and everything nice. That's awesome. Yeah. Our music music supervisor, Lyle Workman, he was the guy who would find all these great songs and then also uh or and would write
the scores and stuff. And I found out later that he was the guitarist on this Frank Black album I loved growing up, called Teenager of the Year. And what happened was Frank Black just recorded all of these songs they were ready to be released. He met Lyle and he was like, could you play guitar just over this one song? Lyle? This isn't from Lyle. This is like he had this own legendary status and then I met him. It was like and then Lyle played like a little guitar one track and Frank
Black was like, could you play guitar on all of them? And he does and it sounds amazing, and I was like, oh my god, you're the dude. So that was cool. Yeah, you know, talking about working with people that loves physical media and stuff, one of the big ones that I left out, you were an interesting not not super long or big character, but Inglorious Bastards quite obviously is a massive physical media advocate and fan and has been for decades. Like he was making waves with that obviously
in the early nineties. How was that set, Like, I imagine you weren't there for a super long time to shoot that. Yeah, you know what. The way the schedule worked out was I would work a day and I'd maybe get a few days off and work another day. So yeah, I got to be around. It was great. I was like, I mean, I still am movie mad, movie mad. I love movies, and so I think it was twenty seven on set, and so being a movie mad person in his late twenties getting to be on set with the movie
mad director who loved movies. It was a dream come true. It was really awesome. And there's things it's funny in retrospect working on other stuff. The comparison, I go, oh wow, that was special. It enhances in its specialness. One thing that I noticed he did that like jud did and it really helps a performance. So if you directors out there when you
hear this, I think Tarantino's talked about it before too. He just stands by the camera like right off to the side and just like watches the actors and I've I did my best acting with jud with him right out of my purview, trying to act best for Daddy, like whatever kind of sad emptiness actors feel where they have to have that void of like immediate like oh this person is into this. I couldn't understood it, And like, hey, he's got like some of the best acting, not just the ear he was
making movies, but all movies. People, some actors with the biggest resumes on Earth, their best performances are in his movie. So but yeah, oh man, he owns the New Beverly So I go there and I get to see movies there, and he just purchased a vista in the neighborhood and I went and saw the New Beverly. I just saw Muppets Take Manhattan and that was really fun. Speaking of Jim Henson, I've got a Muppet tattooed on my arm right, that's all. I've got. Animal. Yeah,
Animal is my daughter's favorite. Nice. Yeah, I got her through the door an animal watching over me. I'll at the top there every time. The rules, Animal Rules. I got to go to the New Beverly in twenty twenty two. I think it was when I went back to La visit Jeremy that set up this conversation as Oh, Jeremy, man, the New Beverly was. It's like a mecca for people that love movies. It just feels special. There's something about sitting in there that's like, oh, like
this is this is it? Like this is what we've been yearning for for a long time. Oh yeah, from top to bottom, like from outside that the Marquee letters are changed every day for the movie, which when I was a kid, the specialness of driving by our theater downtown and seeing the Marquee letters changed for the new movie was like tablets coming down with like the
tech Cobama. It was just like what with Vegas coming to theater. This is so thrilling and uh uh and then you step through there and why my god, it's the whitest array of candy you've ever seen. And the popcorn tastes so good. You realize what what have I been putting in my mouth at these AMC theaters? It's true. It's true. Also, as long as I'm bitching about AMC, you know what I've always wanted when I'm getting sticky uh drinks and beverages, I want to keep pressing the same digital screen
as every single humid in the theater. And oh I like it where I go up to a coke machine and it has every variety of coke except coke. And I'll not to mention you spent a lot for that ticket and for each of those snacks. Yes, and they're they're basic snacks that you had you pulled off seven to eleven style off I con session. Oh, I could go odd and odd, but hey, we don't have to bring one's glory up by putting down other things. I can just say the new Beverly
is great. I don't have to, so let's stay on new bed. What's some of the best double features you've been able to catch? Oo right on. I saw my first one I ever went to in two thousand and four before Quentin I think owned. It was Fast Times at Ridgemond Eye and Valley Girl, and that was cool I saw. I don't think this was
a double feature because it was a late night, midnight screening. Joe Dante brought his the preview screening print of Gremlins that had some scenes that were cut out after the previews were like, oh, you don't need this scene in that scene, and you know, it's interesting when you go to uh or I have a hang up, like when I'm at the New Beverly and I've grown past this, but to see somebody who like outwardly loves movies publicly sometimes
it gets me nervous. It's kind of like quite easy. People don't like this, like I'm conditioned to think, so even in a theater of movie lovers, I'm still like, guys, let's not nerd out here too much. Okay, there's there's so I remember at the very beginning of Gremlins, this like white print on black disclaimer came up that was like you were watching a preview, and you know it had been there since it was put on there early nineteen eighty four where they had this previous reading, and my heart
sang, oh my god. I flipped out. I couldn't believe I was getting to see this. And I remember a guy in front of me in the but I'm keeping it cool, right, I'm like, I don't want to be a nerd. I'm loving this. And then this guy right in front of me, he does kind of this little like jump in his seat. He's so happy about this this favor too. And I remember thinking, like, cheap it, cool man, what did blow it? That's the rule of AMCs. You're allowed to do it at the new BIV, I
don't. You're right, you're right at an AC. Gotta keep you cool about a new BEV. Yeah, but saw shampoo there, I saw recently saw Airplane top Secret double feature. That's a big, amazing and the best. And this will be the last New Beverly memory I'll share with you. I don't mean to bore you, but the I think that, thank you, I had the best New Beverly experience I had. I think was the
last time I went. When I went to Airplane and Top Secret, which was I got to sit next to a family that had brought like their twelve and like fourteen year old sons, and I don't think they'd ever seen airplane,
and they were like losing their shit, laughing so hard. And it was the laugh that I forgot about at home when you watch them and I've seen them like two dozen times, but like the laugh of you laugh because it's just an immediate laugh and then like five seconds past where you realize, like they got me with that, say stupid joke, and you start laughing at yourself. That was the cool experience the New Beverly, and I would
notice it with those kids. They would like laugh and then a new scene would start, but they'd still be reflecting on that crazy joke about how the boy ate his foot because he got stuck in the fridge, you know. But yes, it was great. Are you a comedy fan of Airplane? Top Secret? Make it good? I mean, I have a heart, right of course. I got really lucky. I've been to the News BEV once and it just so happened to be that I got to go for a
double feature and it was John Waters night. I got to see Polyester and Serial mom and I because it was him in that place. I oh he was there. No, he was not there, But it was just that to watch people that will appreciate cinema that's as out there as John Waters in a cinematic mecca like the New bev Is, it's a surreal experience to understand, like, no, there's there's like one hundred and fifty people that will leave here happy following a John Waters film, which is not always common.
The only John Waters movie where there's walk ins not walk outs, people fighting for the samel rama from Paul to get autographed by the person they saw it with, Yeah to to you know, dovetail to back to Paul Rubins. He was friends with John Waters, so he would tell me fun John Waters stories and oh, you know, John Waters came to visit a couple of weekends ago and he would tell me, you know, about what they did
and what they talked about. But he told me that after the Peewee movie, we wrote, uh, John Waters saw it and emailed Paul and he you know, said he liked it and compliments from people he respect or compliments from friends. In terms of Paul. In John Waters case, it means a lot but the particular compliment he gave uh, I thought was really cool and just says a lot about what they're The two of their friendship was about. He said, that was a great movie. I you know, I
really liked it. I'm so happy there was none of that ironic, hipster bullshit comedy. I was like, oh, cool, like and that's you know, Paul and I thought we didn't use that term, but we talked about how. I was like, it's okay if something gets corny, it's funny to be corny, it's funny to be genuine. We don't have to like iron irony it up. And the fact that John waters like Doug that made me very happy. Genuine camp is a good thing. Yes, exactly. Uh, we don't. We don't have a ton of time left.
And we barely talked about physical media. What's what's the story with you in physical media? It seems like you're as deep into this as some of us. Oh yes, okay, Well what did I first get bit by the bug? My man Joe's movie House and Lamar's Iowa, it's funny. Couple days ago, we were driving somewhere. She said there was a long line outside a coffee place right next to this ice cream place. She like,
it's called Jenny's. I was like, wow, look at that long line outside the coffee place, and she's like, yeah, why do they hate Jenny's. I was like, I don't either or but yeah in Lamar's Iowa. I remember when my we would rent a VCR player, and then we had to make some exchange where now that we bought the VCR, we can rent any movie, so we don't need HBO anymore. So when we got the VCR, we lost HBO. I think the very first VHS tape I
remember watching was a Temple of Doom on like Christmas morning. My family had rented it and we watched it. Blew my mind and it was cool too, in the way like home video could work, which was I woke up that morning to my sister talking about it with my dad because my sister had seen it in theaters, but my dad started watching it the night before on tape. And truly, I've thought, like my parents, they love thrillers
and suspense movies. They would rent them probably Wednesday Thursday night, right they rent a video. A lot of my understanding of like movie storytelling is hearing my mom resummarize a movie that my dad fell asleep to. It'll be like, so she had to get the key to order the lock in order. Oh why was that locked? Because he told her? But I'm like, oh, okay, this story's shaped up to be quite the pop boiler here.
But then yeah, then I remember we would tape stuff off of HBO free weekends, So I had Peewee's Big Adventure like on tape, but with like call this number to get HBO free every year, every day, and then that crew into just really I don't know how you feel if you're in the same age range, but no, outside of this kind of like twenty year age range, nobody, A lot of people didn't get that awesome like
from age birth. I don't know until when you're a teenager til college, until you're eighteen, where you have so little power and control over your life
to be able to get this little slice of control. And it's entertainment and particularly you know, filmmakers talk about our creators like, oh, I went to the theater and I saw this movie a dozen times and it study I do think, like wow, this peer group they had Batman nineteen eighty nine on a tape and watched it one hundred times and true just comforts of the VHS tapes. The Back to the Future Part two, Death becomes Her who framed Roger Rabbit. These like Zamechas VHS movies, but oh, they meant
everything to me. They were so they were perfect, and like Tim Burton movies, they're just like so perfect for a kid, They're like really fun. And then in high school, having the freedom of going down and indie cinema was we might not have had the art house theaters we wanted, but you just had to wait a year and Reservoir Dogs would eventually get to your video store and you get to watch it. And a guy got in trouble for red Reservoir Dogs to us. He was like, you guys, blew
it. I told you when I gave it to you you couldn't let somebody. We're like, we're sorry. And then yeah, once I got to college in Iowa City, there was that's re entertainment and they it was I mean, you know people go to like college where it's like the oh, there's knowledge in those buildings and I can get them. That's my ticket. Not being cheeky like having that video store where it had all these movies that I've always wanted to see, but they just couldn't touch the chain rental places
where I lived. Ye Oh, I flipped out like I was ready, Last House on the Left and Bad Ronald and stuff. It was just like it was so great. So once I moved down to Los Angeles, that stuff was dying. You could still go to video stores, but then that's yeah, when the love of DVDs and Blu rays and beyond came in. I actually grabbed some faves. If I can show you, Hell, yeah, please, because I know it's an audio medium, but no, this is video as well. Actually, good thing I wasn't wearing my shirt that
has turds all over it. Oh my god, I would have been so embarrassed. I get it. This is one of my favorite Blu rays. It's this Grazing Cane where it includes a special feature where this guy had heard the movie got re edited after test screenings to be something different and he was like, well, I'm gonna re edit it and put it online. And Brian de Palmas saw it. He's like, hey, I like that.
Can we put it on the DVD. It's so cool? And then I have a four year consideration DVD for the Kid and I, which is this Wow Penelope Sphears movie from the early aughts where it was funded by Tom Arnold's neighbor who is like a bagillionaire, and he wanted his neighbor to write his
son into like a true lifestyle movie because his son loved true lies. So Tom Arnold made this kind of like meta movie where it's about him writing into true lives movie for the Sun. But it ends with him with some brief cameos from Arnold Swarzenegger and Jamie Thee Curtis where he walks into a room and they're there. Do you know what The first thing he says to him or he whispers to himself when he sees Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Thee Curtis from across
the room, he goes, he goes, what is real? That's how weird this movie is. I'm very happy to have that. And then over COVID when I was losing my mind, I started getting into these order brothers. Uh what would you call them? Library style kind of yeah, like uh bulet kind of yes, yeah, back when And it's so cute because when they came out, they thought like professors were getting it or something.
These the backs have essays like I remember the back of the Risky Business one is like the character from Risky Business is in the mold of the Halden COFFEELDS. I'm like, what is this ship? This is crazy guy. I love that it reads with an accent too. You push a button that it does that. But I got this shining one because I heard that when this is in the movie theater, the end credits had a blue color to the font, and when it came out on this video, everybody was like,
the blue font gets too stream. You can't see it. So the next one that came out in nineteen ninety or whatever, that video they changed it to uh white or black. So the only way you could see the blue, even DVD blue rays. The only way you could see it is it was meant to be seen in theaters. Totally worth it. Blue colored font. YEP, I'm gonna have to check the four K because I believe they went back to the original negative for that. I wonder if it's back blue
again. Oh my god, I bet it's blue again. And now I'm an idiot. And then the lastly I have, yeah, a Warner Brothers thing of a Dressed to Kill and pre yeah that poster rules and then pre DVDs. It's a release that puts in like a minute of unedited footage so people could see it on video. Yeah, what about you? What? What would you say was your first? Uh? I'm curious, like when you walked into a video store, what comes in your mind as a rental
on the shelf? Well, funny enough, I've told the story in here a few times, and I don't think I've ever heard somebody tell a similar story. But I feel like Lamar's and growing up in Barstow kind of had a similar experience. People couldn't. People have never really been able to fathom, Like you grew up in California, you had access to everything, and it's like Barstow is nothing, and when you think about it, they don't have anything around them for like forty miles. So all we had was the
mainstream titles and the big one that was for me. When I was eight years old, my mom and dad let me pick what I wanted to see and my first big like this is my first big boy movie. I picked Halloween. I was eight years old. We got to watching the movie. My dad offered me five dollars to go run out and touch our backyard fence,
and I said, screw you, I'm going to bed. But yeah, that was the first big thing, and I for years I was just the same thing as you, like, recycling some of these VHS tapes that otherwise I don't have access to anything else. If I don't watch this forty three times over the next six months, I'm not watching anything. So of course I'm gonna watch it forty three times. So the big thing is kind of like you, we haven't even been able to talk about music yet.
But I got into the music scene. I was in marching band. I was playing bass, playing guitar and hosting shows and doing like scheduling promoting for some bands. I worked at a radio station for a couple of years, and the bands started to become like close friends, and we'd start talking, like what inspired some of your songs? And they start telling me like it's these punk rock bands and like, you've never seen evil dad, let's talk about that. And I was like nineteen years old and went, I've never
even heard of evil dead. Let's go find out what that is. And so I from that kind of like you, I was about like entering college age, and I'd have to go to a bigger city to find i don't know, like Circuit City to find their DVD section. I'd be like one evil dead sir, and I'd buy it, and I'd go home and be liked, what Where's this been my entire life? And I fell in love with that shit, and so I started eating up all this like B and cult cinema that has been the past of my life ever since then, it
feels like, yeah, oh dude, totally. In high school there was a video update in Sioux's City that somehow just got their hands on the most far out stuff that was all like B movies things, exploitation films. But what was so thrilling about it was they weren't formulaic, Like they didn't have to mean I'm saying the obvious thing, but like that was like I had no idea movies could be transgressive or flagger, and so was doubly mind blowing.
Like and to be able to like pick something, roll the dice and have it pay off with your group of like it was the best You mentioned marching band, What do you play? I grew up, I played clarinet, taught myself bassed clarinet, and then because they're similar, I taught myself how to play saxophone because I was dying to be in the jazz band, so I borrowed my teachers Barry sax went home, and over a summer taught
myself how to play baritone saxophone. I rode with that for a good four or five years, and then rise I was about to graduate, I picked up a guitar, picked up a bass. I bought a drum set on Craigslist for like three hundred dollars. I had a room full of instruments and then sadly sold everything to be able to move to Kansas City. And it was. It was a huge part of my life and it got me out
of California. It was one of the big things. Like that room made me like fifteen hundred dollars so I could, yeah to pack the new wife up and we moved to Kansas City together. Oh that's fantastic. What do you do you cross any paths with musicians or the music world in Kansas City? Is it or is it a thriving or not? I don't know. It's it's okay. We're close to Lawrence, Kansas, which has had a bunch of like emo bands sprung out of Lawrence. Oh yeah, he u's
out there. It was very similar to Iowa City, where you could tell a band is going to the next city with college kids. Yeah, but this, I interrupted, Sorry, what were you saying? No, you're You're fine. I was just a random happenstance. One of the bands that stayed with me that introduced me to Evil Dead in California. I come out here years later, literally, like I don't know, seven or eight years
later, had no but I didn't know anybody here. I was looking for a new job because my wife was pregnant, and I went to sell insurance to a plumbing company and the guys like, I don't want your insurance, but you're a good salesman. You want to come, like, see if you want to work for us. So I rode with him for a day and I was with him for like six hours, and we're going back to the shop and he goes, just, I like you, what do you do for fun? I'm like, well, I'm super into music. I
love music. He goes, oh, my son's in a band. What kind of music. Do you like The band that I love that stayed with me in California that I have tattooed on my leg. His son was the guitarist, and I had no idea he was from here, and I just ended up in his van sixteen hundred miles away from home. That rules. Yeah, I love it. It was the weirdest show brand. It's it's
there. I don't think they're they're an active band anymore, but they're an active punk band that was from like ten thousand two all the way up to like twenty sixteen. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. You know, you've seen punk band evil Dead. Like the secret handshake that underground music
has with underground movies is great. That's awesome and and a lot of times, yeah, as somebody who likes a band you like, well also like a movie they think you'll like, and and so it goes a lot of those they end up inspiring each other and the way that those those creatives thrive from each other. There's so much that I've discovered because of those those webs. You just follow a thread that somebody brings up, and suddenly a movie you find is your next favorite movie. For years. Yeah. I mean
there's very few bands that kind of everybody can. You can play a song and everybody's like, oh, I like this song, I like this band. And truly I can only think of like maybe three, but one of them is like a horror influenced funk band, The Misfits. Everybody loves the Misfits like truly, I've never been anybody who's like they suck, Like yeah, they make people really happy and it is some combination of that music and
what they're thinking about. How you'd be some Halloween version of Scrooge if you didn't like that well, And to bring it full circle as we end this thing, I feel like that community it really kind of grasps a lot of the same things we were talking about with Paul Rubens and Henson, Like it's one of the most inclusive we will care about each other communities ever, Like the DIY punk scene is classic. You know, if you fall down and the pit will help you back up. If you're needing a dollar to get
on, the bus will pay for it. Like it's one of those everybody just loves you and will happily take you in no matter what. I know, I was talking to somebody a couple of months ago at like a just a backyard party. We're hanging out, we're talking, and I was like talking about how the two of us it could like bring a tear to our
eye thinking about how the punk scene was like open to all. So the sweetest thing on earth, which is you would see like a uh, like a young gay or lesbian be friends with a goth and they're friends with hardcore kids. It's just like because it really doesn't matter. It's just sort of like we've got this corner. You know, we're on the outside, and so yeah, whatever community that comes together around it, it's it's the best.
But similar with a you know, horror fans, it's so funny with a bunch of little sweeties they are yep, it's like raising our kids. We uh, it's it's a kind of a scary time for a lot of people in some of these towns and stuff, and so we're raising our kids with special needs and we have to have that talk. You know, you come home and they've had like active shooter drills or something. We're like, hey, if something ever happens, find like the meanest looking person with piercings
all over their face with the craziest hair. That person will help you. Oh that's true. That's a look for the helpers. Look for the the tattooed helpers. There's mister Rogers again. Love it. Yes, yes, yes, Paul, this has been amazing. I feel like you're a new friend. I could just talk to the next four Ryan, same Man, same Sorry we can't talk further, but if you ever want to have me come back again, I would love them. There's so much more to that
we can chat about. You know. The one thing I'd be remiss not to share with physical media is, Dude, those commentaries. They are God's gift. Like dogs or cats. I'm like, who's handed we shake to get audio commentaries? They are so great and just giving shout outs to the ones I love. There's a David Fincher Robert Town commentary for Chinatown that's amazing. I think my first commentary I ever heard is one of my favorites.
It's Alexander Paints for Election. Wow. I really love that one. And the one that recently I listened to and it blew my mind was Steven Soderberg does a commentary with Mike Nichols for Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf yep, and man, they should just do that with all commentaries. Just have somebody who's a fan talking to the filmmaker, because the filmmaker when they're alone, they
they're too bashful maybe or something to share it. But if you have somebody just like straight up kissing your ass and going, hey, genius, why did you make that choice? Well? I did, it gets them to open up. Same. I've noticed if a filmmaker does a European interview, like not in America. In America, they'll be like cage and not answer questions straight. But in Europe either because they want to seem smart or they're
just choosing their words carefully so they're not like misunderstood. The Coen Brothers won't open up in a French interview. It's the best. So as we go, what's the what's the deal with physical media for Netflix stuff? Are we ever going to be able to get love? You think, dude? Maybe it was because I knew we were going to be doing the podcast today. I had a true just chill, a shutter go through my spine of like,
I don't think it'll ever go on physical media. So it's it's owned by Netflix, so it's you know, it's there and hopefully it will always be there. Knock on wood. But yeah, I actually was the like this morning, I was like, should I contact jud to see if he has the discs so I can walk. I mean, it's the same with like some of my friends made some really brilliant like funnier die videos that just kind of got lost to the sands of the internet when one company buys out
the other. So, man, I would love it because there if there was mainly because our scripts were always overwritten with more scenes than we knew we could fit in, and there was we had six days instead of five to shoot stuff, so we would shoot stuff wow it hopes to see if it could just if it worked, it would get in. And a lot of times those were like really it was nice to have time to explore. But when we went from like first from the you know, we'd usually lose like
ten minutes of scenes per episode that I would like. And with a show that's kind of like one of those more slice of life stuff that unfortunately we'll have to go sometimes in terms of runtime, but I'll have the things that are most interesting in terms of character So that would be cool if there was ever a physical release having like people get to see those scenes. But uh,
why can't they do deleted scenes on everything streaming? Hey if I could click on Punky Brewster season two and get to see the deleted scenes from episode four whenever I wanted, Oh, I Adrea, I can imagine clicking on Love and being like season three episode three. Let's listen to Paul's commentary on this and talk about the making of specific episode. Why not they should live
there. I was part of that cool, little, funky weird season four of Arrested development where they the original plan was that they could be sequenced out of order and you'd be able to kind of make sense of the story. And then they realized due to network stuff, they weren't able to show them out of order, so they had to show them. But that was like a true Oh there's a new world of streaming and somebody's trying to figure out how to make the most of it. Yeah, do they do that?
Now? Are their little? I mean this is a physical media shaw, who cares what they do? I just didn't know if the stuff out of secrets now and in very small ways, like there was a You ever watch any Cynthia Rothrock movies like old martial arts movies. Oh I wish I did
so. Uh. There is a company out of the UK named Eureka that put out a Blu ray release last year that because of playing stuff in Hong Kong and then taking it to mainland China and then taking it to the US and the UK, these movies have like four cuts because some of them they want them longer, some of them they want them shorter so they can play more movies of them want to edit for TV whatever. So there's like four or five cuts of this movie. And this company in Eureka, they worked
on the disk in a way to make it. If you just put in the disc and press play, it chooses a random ending for you to come up. Like the old like how they would show Clue in the theater, you don't know what ending you're going to get, and this this Blu Ray disc does the same. You can go to the menu and choose which ones you can see them all, but you can just I'm gonna have a good night, put it in and play the loto and see which one I get. That rules. I mean, I could list a hundred of the exclusive
charms that like physical media offers that no other thing does. But one that I've noticed with the when you were saying alternate cuts, I'll watch horror movies where they get European scenes and they add them end to the thing. So
I saw it with The Mutilator and From Beyond and The Prowler. All three of these movies had this thing happen where during the most intense part of the kill is also the point where they have to go to the other stuff that got like cut out, yep and put in and it's okay, it just it looks a little different the color or whatever. So in the same way that people I know who saw like slasher movies the TV edited versions are like, yeah, it's just as scary to use weird slow mo or weird dialogue
boom switching around to get around violence. It sounds like a weird like feeling. Yeah, I love it. Now when I watch those alternate cuts, when the color starts to change, I'm like, oh boy, we got an uncut st here. What's gonna go down? It's thrilling, Like it's just one of those small little perks that can only come from this world. Well, I mean you said there's one hundred, so that that will have to be the next conversation. We'll get you back and we'll list one hundred
reasons to love physical media. Perhaps that's great. Yes, we'll do like ninety nine bottles of beer in the wall, but mos of why we love this? Hell? Yeah, well, I know we both got to go be Dad's. So thanks for hanging out tonight. This has been Thank you, Ryan, remarkable. I'm thrilled to have you on here. Now when this ends, will you still be here? So I can, you know, officially say goodbye okay, because I don't want it to be like,
okay, great being on the show and then it goes black. I'm like what, So, yes, thank you for having me on the show. I hope people enjoyed it, and yeah, I'd love to come back again sometime. Thank you for listening to the Disconnected podcast. There's one big thing that you could do to help the show, and that is to leave a rating and review on the podcast service of your choice. Thank you. If you're looking for more horror outside of the mainstream, look no further than Unsung
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