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So, your teams no longer exist. What do you do now?

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What would you do if your favorite sports teams had never existed? Kick back with us, Ed Rivera (aka the Dad Hat) and Mike Sellers, as we challenge each other with this thought experiment and navigate the intricate world of sports fandom. From our mutual outrage at Skyline Chili's switch to Coke to an engaging debate about our hypothetical team choices based on logos and histories, we promise a rollercoaster of opinions and laughs.

Join us as we share our new passion for hockey, reminiscing about the Pittsburgh Penguins, Nashville Predators, and the latest buzz around the Seattle Kraken. Our journey doesn’t stop there; we dive into  college basketball, reliving Ed's alma mater pride from Kent State and Mike's love for UConn, and considering alternate teams that might have captured our hearts. We also touch on the emotional rollercoaster that is college football, with die-hard support for teams like the Oregon Ducks and a surprising affection for Vanderbilt.

The NFL and MLB segments bring a mix of nostalgia and humor, with reflections on extensive hat collections and tough team choices. We share our personal connections to teams like the Titans and the Browns. Get ready for an episode brimming with spirited debates, heartfelt memories, and the true essence of sports fandom.

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Sports Podcast Introduction and Team Selection

Speaker 1

Is anybody there ? All right , and welcome everybody to . Let's just say this is going to be a little bit of a a little trial , you know . Know , we're going to see how this works . Uh , my name is ed river , also known as the dad head , and with me I have my , uh , my wonderful , good friend co-host . Uh , mr mike sellers .

Sometimes people call him chili man or jedediah . You know he goes by many , many , many names . It all depends on the time of the year . During winter he is definitely Jedediah anyways . Uh , welcome to the DHC sports podcast . Uh , what is going on , Mike ? How you doing , buddy ?

Speaker 2

doing good . Ed , thanks for having me . I had a little dilemma on what to enter my name as today because , like you said , we almost did Jedediah like well , I trimmed up the beard then it's like we could do the chili man , but I'm kind of protesting Skyline and Gold Star right now from that stupid move .

Speaker 1

They did . You really are , you really are , yeah , so why are you doing this right now , this protest ?

Speaker 2

Because they both had Pepsi products for the longest time . I always thought it was weird that they both had that , so I assumed it was just a matter of time before one of them made the dumb mistake of going to Coke .

And about a month or two ago skyline announced they were going to be making that move and I was like all right , 100 , I'm all in on gold star now . It did not even last a full day before gold star made the same announcement , and I've not been there since I switched to coke yet so gross dude so terrible

Speaker 1

terrible first of all , I'm gonna tell you like I mean , this is you and me right here , this is just us testing this whole you know like uh , trial of like you know how this is gonna go and guess what happens . We already disagree on one thing , and it's it is skyline chili . I think skyline chili is absolutely gross . It's just gross stuff .

Speaker 2

But we at least did agree on . Do agree about pepsi being better .

Speaker 1

We agree 100 100% Pepsi is a much better product than Coke will ever be . It is by far like a much better product Like which is funny , dude , because my family right and my immediate family , my parents , my sisters , they're all Coke product . They are all about the Coke . I'm the only one that does not like Coke . I cannot stand it , dude .

Speaker 2

What you're saying is you're the smartest one in your family .

Speaker 1

Oh , 100% , absolutely . Yeah , I'm the smartest one here , so , all right . So here's what we're going to do . So I threw this question at you and I even just so you know , I also threw it at my wife as well . Okay , what do you have ? Are the cops ?

Speaker 2

coming to get you dude , dude . We get a lot of action in the neighborhood here all right who got who shot who ? All right , I can literally see the flashing lights through my window right now shut up , dude .

Speaker 1

Are you serious ?

Speaker 2

yeah , so they're going eight mile .

Speaker 1

I live on eight mile , even though you live in Ohio .

Speaker 2

Little old town .

Speaker 1

Yeah , In the middle of nowhere , Right , Pretty much All right . So I threw this question at you and I said it was like all right . So here's what I want to do . I want to try this episode out here , I want to try this one out .

And now what I want to do is I want to know what would happen if you're the teams that you've been following since childhood , like they don't exist , right ? If they don't exist , who would you be following , right , Knowing what you know now , like you know the winning percentages or the color schemes are , like you know , logos , everything .

I mean , I'm talking everything , right ?

Speaker 2

Okay , that was going to be . One of my questions was do I know everything I know now ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , yeah , no , no , you know everything , so I don't want to make it too hard . I mean , eventually we'll make it difficult later on as this podcast goes on , right , but , like , I want to know what teams would you choose ? And we're talking about NCAA , we're talking about MLB , nhl , nba , nfl , the whole nine yard , right ?

Like I mean , they don't exist , the players don't exist either . Okay , either , okay , like . So you can't just be like oh , mvp , my mvp , trevor lawrence , is gonna . I'm gonna bring him with me to this pitch for sealers . No , that's not how that goes .

Speaker 2

okay , you gotta stick with with what we , what they have , okay , but you gotta pick the team , okay are we like , for example , me being a jaguar fan are we just saying the jaguars like like right now , like the jags did exist and they just folded operations , or like the jaguars have never existed , never ?

Speaker 1

existed okay , because if they folded right , that was like all right . So I need a period of , like you know , morning , and then I'm not gonna read for anybody or anything like that . No , that's just easy . That's too easy , dude . I just because that like I could have changed the answers pending on .

Speaker 2

That's just easy . That's too easy , dude . I just because that could have changed the answers . That's what I'm saying . No , they never existed .

Speaker 1

Right , there was never an expansion in 95 , when the Jaguars came in with the Panthers . None of that , or the . Cleveland Browns never came back in 99 .

Speaker 2

They just moved to Baltimore and never . They just moved to Baltimore and then in Baltimore , it is right .

Speaker 1

Cleveland Guardians slash Indians never , never . Just moved to baltimore , and then in baltimore it is right cleveland cleveland guardians slash indians . Never existed , none of that shit okay all right , okay , I like it all right .

So I'm going to start with one of the leagues , like I mean , and this is , I want to start easy , all right , yeah , let's start with the nhl . Okay , okay , the nhl . I think for the most part , you and me have been pretty new to uh the sport .

Speaker 2

We follow it , but it's not like like baseball , right , like you know right , like I , I liked hockey a lot when I was a kid , but I'm talking like up till 10 or 15 , and then I kind of got out of it for , like , I keep track of it a little bit but then kind of until , like you said , recently got back into it same with me .

Speaker 1

Same with me , dude , like it's just the last couple of years . That's when I , like you know when , recently got back into it . Same with me , same with me , dude , like it's just the last couple of years .

That's when I , like you know , when I was young , when I started here , when I lived in Ohio , it's like I started getting following it and then just like drop off . And it just recently , last few years , that's when I really got back into it , you know . So , all right , so let's start with the NH . Is your current nhl team that you follow ?

Speaker 2

current nhl team is the pittsburgh penguins oh , you're my wife .

Speaker 1

I like the same team .

Speaker 2

See , though , even though it wasn't because they were the local team , when I became a fan of them , it was before columbus existed , they pretty much you know , they were four hours away , they them and you were like yeah closest team still , but that isn't why I became a fan .

I just like to say that because it sounds better it just sounds like , oh my god , columbus wasn't here yeah exactly , yep , so

Selecting NHL and NBA Teams

okay .

Speaker 1

So all right , so that you , you chose the pittsburgh penguins as your team that you were following now . Did you follow them as a kid or did you follow them recently ? I followed them as a kid so you got back into it again with them exactly , and that was like even the span when I was out of the sport .

Speaker 2

That was like the one . I wasn't watching the games , but I would check the standings , like to see where the penguins were at , and especially when they got sydney crosby , you know , because it was cool to have such a big star and they were good , so it was easier .

Exactly , yeah , and then once they get to the stanley cups , they do that for three , four times .

Speaker 1

Uh yeah , it's kind of nauseating , to be honest with you for you yeah , so all right . So the pittsburgh penguins ?

Speaker 2

they don't exist what are you going with ? Okay , so I joke with friends of mine now about having four quote-unquote hometown hockey teams , yeah , one of them being nashville , one of them in nashville , and that's carolina the hurricanes are another one , because I go there so much . St louis is another one because , gross , I went there .

There was a period of time when I would travel to st louis a bunch as well , okay .

And then then there's columbus , who was literally the the hometown team for me , yeah , but so it kind of came to me being like what would be one of those teams then and this is one you said you were going to start out easy , and this was probably the easiest one of all the sports for me to choose . It would be the Predators .

It's Nashville , I mean , I like the brand anyway . They're fairly local compared to the other teams anyway , and nice , yeah , I like it all . So that was pretty easy for me to choose that the predators would be my team , right , exactly .

Speaker 1

I was like okay , here , I'll give you a toss . I'm going to toss you a softball here . So I knew that was going to be the choice . I knew it , I didn't think that was going to be a big surprise . No , no , no , no , so , all right . So for me , like , when it comes to NHL , I never really was like I know this is going to suck .

I was , like , you know , living in Cleveland .

I was like , but I never really was a Columbus Blue Jackets fan , right , like I mean , I rooted for them , I was happy for them , but it was nothing like I , yeah , because one thing just being one thing being a literal hometown team , it's another thing just being the closest team to you , right , exactly , because that was literally the closest nhl team , you

know , um , so , so , so it's not right . So , but I've been so moved , you know , left up hockey for a while , came back , you know , to it , and then I root for two teams . Okay , so I'm gonna , I'm gonna , I'm gonna say this because I root for , I root for two teams .

Okay , so I'm going to say this because I root for , literally , root for two teams , I root for the Carolina Hurricanes because they literally are now the local team for me . You know what I'm saying . They are the local team , but I also root for the Minnesota Wild , okay .

Speaker 2

Right , I like that . I like the Wild . When I was into it younger and stuff , there was a whole bunch of teams that I casually liked in . The wild were one of them .

Speaker 1

I do like their logo a lot exactly so , like you know , that was one of . That's one of them when seattle started coming back .

Dude , with the kraken , dude , you can't hate on the kraken , right , yeah , but the team that I followed as a kid , the anaheim ducks , the mighty ducks , oh really , oh god , yeah , because the movie and all that , oh , 100 , it was because of the movie , okay , you know , I mean emilio estevez and you know , like the flying v and all that , right , so , like ,

oh , dude , I even watched a cartoon show did you know that we had a minor league team , cincinnati mighty ducks , here with like basically the same logo and all that ?

Speaker 2

no shit . I never went to any of their games because they folded when I was still fairly young and stuff and I didn't go to a bunch of games as a kid but I never actually went there . But yeah , I'd look into that damn , that's nice .

Speaker 1

So that's what that's . That was a team , right . So I really I really gave this one some thought , like I mean I do this one was a tough one , kind of tough one , but not really tough one .

So if I was to choose a team now to really follow right and just see , like this is my team , I'm gonna follow that , it would be seattle the correct because , the whole logo and brand yeah , the logo is amazing uh they made the playoffs . You know , like I mean , it's just the whole thing , it's just , it's just , it's cool .

I even have I think I have somewhere around here like their hockey helmet , the little minifigure hockey helmet .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so I'm . Uh , I'm wearing this sabers hat now , but I I got the sabers and seattle hat at the same time just because I happened to see them both for like 10 bucks or something each , or something . Boom , both color logos and stuff .

Speaker 1

So , dude , I went to . I went to where the hell was , I was like I was at ross , and I found that I saw a , a seven and a quarter fitted seattle seahawks hat oh , really , I was like hell yeah , I got it seahawks fan , so he would .

He would appreciate that yeah , exactly , I like the seahawks , so I'm always like I , especially when you , especially when you know who was there Russell Wilson .

Speaker 2

I was trying to think who did I know ?

Speaker 1

So that was you know , anyways , all right , so we got NHL out of the way . All right . So NHL , we know that we would follow these other teams , right , yeah , thankfully , you know we live in . This conversation that we're having is a fantasy world conversation , right .

I've seen around , but exactly , I kind of knew that you were going to go with the Predators , so it's like you're a natural guy , so it's just , it's just how it goes , right , right , all right . So we're going to leave baseball to the end , right , and we're going to leave minor league baseball and major league baseball to the end .

We're not going to touch that one right now .

Speaker 2

Okay , okay , let's go for another easy one , okay , nba , nba . You see that one I it is . It's lower on my chart , but I don't know if it's necessarily easy . So I'm a timber world fan in the nba , that's shut up yeah , but I also the nba is far and away my least favorite sport . Same here , dude .

So they're like , even though they're my favorite team , I I don't have like their gear and their hats and stuff like that , just because I don't follow the nba close enough to really care enough like I root for them , like they're playing the playoffs right now , the best season they've had in forever oh , they're about to get eliminated too right , but just getting

to this point is , they usually don't even make the playoffs .

Speaker 1

So true , like you know , they've been perennials like bad team for a long time .

Speaker 2

Yeah so this one , it was easy in terms of , like you said there's like it just didn't really it wouldn't really matter to me as much , but in the same token it was a little more difficult than because I don't don matter to me as much , but in the same token it was a little more difficult , because I don't follow it as closely to have these additional ties

and stuff .

So the three teams that kind of came to me as the top couple , the two that I don't think I'm going to choose but were the next options , was the Pacers , because they're not not close here but they're the most local they're close enough right , um , and then there's also the Nuggets , because I did like the Nuggets a lot when I was younger , because I liked

Carmelo Anthony and also , as as we basically discussed when , the hockey one . If I'm starting over with liking teams , I kind of going to tend to root for if . If a brand or something doesn't stand out to me , I'm going to kind of tend to root for cities that I enjoy .

Yeah , and I just went to denver recently and really loved it out there cool , ain't it ? yeah , so those are the couple , probably my silver and bronze options , but uh , I think the team I would go with is the Hornets , because , similarly , I also liked the Bobcats when they were back there . You're going to laugh , you're going to laugh .

But I like their logos and colors and stuff too , and also kind of like the Hurricanes we talked about .

I do go to North Carolina a lot , so I tend to like the Hornets and I know this kind of was not supposed to matter to you because you said not about players but they do tend to draft a lot of yukon basketball players as well , so I've also kind of oh you cannot say that because the yukon doesn't exist .

I know , I know that's why I'm saying that was just kind of a bonus reason . That that's why I said you won't like that part okay , yeah , so that's what I'm going with .

Speaker 1

Here comes mike making his own rules , right I get a separate set of rules exactly all right . So you know it's funny .

You say the hornets , right , obviously I'm a cast fan , right , I went to game seven , uh , not game seven in in golden state , but I went to game seven at the uh , uh at the downtown downtown right that was like yeah , I , I had access to one of the suites and everything , and then , you know , we were able to watch it , right , because they were like hey ,

come on and watch the game , dude . It was fucking crazy , it was so loud . I think that's the place . I've never been somewhere that has been as loud as this place . Oh really , and we were watching it on the big screen . You know what I mean . It's not like they were , they are with us , they're like we're watching on the screen .

Dude , I hug people high . Five people I've never seen in my life . You know what I mean .

Speaker 2

I love that feeling when you're at a game . So I've , yeah , I've been at games . I'm wearing the road teams uniforms and stuff , and then any anybody else you run into wearing that gear .

Speaker 1

They're like your friends and stuff yeah , people , I saw people crying , grown men crying . It was the best thing in the world . I even went to the parade and it was super hot that day . It was just ridiculous , but it was awesome , uh , so yeah .

So I'm obviously cast fans , like I love the 90s , like you know , with tarrell brandon , like you know the old school , like the basketball hoop , uh logo that they have and everything . So I grew up a cast fan . I mean , again , it's the out of all the sports , it's my least favorite .

You too , okay you know what I'm saying so here's the thing , though one of the very first jerseys that I own was a larry johnson jersey , while he was on the hornets , while he was on the everything okay . So that's the team that I would pick , okay .

Speaker 2

That's pretty cool and actually , now that you mentioned , I wasn't even thinking about the time , but I remember when me and my brother were kids , there was these , this other pair of brothers that were friends of ours , and they were wearing like Charlotte Hornets stuff a lot .

I don't know , I don't remember what the connection they had to it was , but that was like the first NBA team we kind of became somewhat familiar with for that same reason .

Speaker 1

Dude , it was , you know what I'm saying . Like it was , it was him . It was , like , you know , when I remember he used to just dominate and just dunk on people and everything and it's like , yeah , man , that's , that's the Hornets right there , I love it , love the logo , logo . You know what I'm saying .

It was , it was cool , dude , you know what I'm saying . Yeah , uh , so that's for the nba charlotte hornets . That's kind of funny , though , like you and me agree on on one team , that is yeah , I highly doubt that we're gonna agree on any other team after that . I seriously doubt it too , but hey , at least we got one true , I , I'm surprised .

I'm not gonna lie . I'm a little taking it back .

Speaker 2

I'm not gonna lie right , it's because we have that little bit of a North Carolina connection . I think so . Yeah , yeah , it's a .

Speaker 1

North Carolina connection . Yeah , exactly , all right . So we got those , those two , out of the way . I like , I like it , I think , I like , I think that's a good , that's a good one . Yeah , for sure , all right . So , any , any league you want to go next , I'm going to let you have it ?

Speaker 2

Well , we obviously did NHL and NBA . The four others I prepared for tell me if there's going to be more . The four others I actually prepared for was NFL , mlb , college football and college basketball . But then you just mentioned something earlier about minor leagues . I don't know .

Speaker 1

Minor league . I just threw it in there as a a .

Speaker 2

You know college basketball , so that's an interesting one for me is that for like who your favorite is , you mean , or who the next up would be ?

Speaker 1

no , well , it doesn't matter . Do you want to go with college basketball ?

Speaker 2

let's get with that one . Okay , college basketball I'll get that one out of the way yeah , let's get

College Basketball Team Preferences and Rivalries

out of the way .

Speaker 1

So college basketball is interesting for me and I put college basketball in on the same level as nba for me . Like , yeah , I I follow it during the tournament season , right , I mean , because it's fun to do the brackets and do all that stuff . But like , it's not , like I'm gonna sit there and watch a full basketball game .

Right , my team , my , is my alma mater , right , like it's kent state , you know , I mean I was gonna guess , yeah , yeah , it's kent . Um , but like , if I was to choose an , uh , like a basketball , I don't know , man , that's , that's hard . I really didn't think about this one .

To be honest with you , um , if you're first , yeah , go first , let me think about this one , okay , yeah , so I know you're a yukon guy for basketball it's kind of weird . You're not a georgia guy for basketball .

Speaker 2

It's kind of weird . You're not a Georgia guy , it is . Of all the teams , I'm fans of all these teams for random reasons , uconn basketball is the only one that had technically had anything to do with the on-field performance . But even that , the reason I became a fan was very .

First time I ever watched college basketball , I already knew you rooted against Duke . That's just what you did . I should have picked Duke just for the fuck of it . It wouldn't surprise me now . Well , I mean , I guess you got a legitimate reason . You're not that far from there . No , but I'm in NC State country though .

That's the thing , that's true , that's true . But anyway , the first time I ever watched it , uconn was the team that beat duke , so I was like good for them , they're the team , so that's why I became a friend of them . So yeah , the boring answer would be just simply be georgia for basketball and yukon for football for me , if I reversed it .

So I'm not going to give that answer , even though that's technically yeah , that's just , that's a cop-out and I would . I will so call you out on that that's why I said I'm not going to do . I'm just saying that would be the boring answer , would just be flip-flopping there .

Speaker 1

Flip-flopping yeah .

Speaker 2

Okay , yeah , but I think for basketball it's hard to . I've got now narrowed down to two and they're pretty equal . Okay , what are your two Right State and Dayton Both .

Speaker 1

Dayton Right Interesting . Those are Mac teams , aren't they ? No , dayton's , not Wright State is .

Speaker 2

Wright State's Horizon and Dayton is 8-10 .

Speaker 1

So similar levels .

Speaker 2

But Wright .

Speaker 1

State is the team that , Well , you got Mac and then you got Horizon . Okay , let's just be honest about that .

Speaker 2

Well , that is true , but 8-10 is above the Mac , I would say .

Speaker 1

That is very true .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so I think the natural thing is to root for the hometown teams . I don't personally typically do it .

Speaker 1

For the most part that's because I've never done it on any of your teams right .

Speaker 2

But it's not because I just decide like wake up and decide I want to be different . It's because I typically are you sure ? I don't think that's why . At least it's because mostly because I end up knowing a lot of fans of these teams that are super annoying and stuff . But it's a handful of local teams but that's not the case .

Okay State and Dayton are like that . Any of the fans I know of these teams are very pleasant and I gone to you know a handful of their games . I've they've never been like playing against UConn or anything , so I've always rooting for them whenever they're playing .

And , like I said , a couple of my best friends actually managed for the right state team when he was in school there . Another couple of my best other best friends or went to ud and are big fans of them , so I talked to them about it a lot .

So I don't know if I could pick one between one of them , but it would definitely be one of those two I would say okay , that's an interesting one .

Speaker 1

I gotta put you in a spot , dude , you gotta pick one . If you were to put one a and one d , you gotta . You gotta choose one .

Speaker 2

All right if I'm on the spot and I absolutely had to do that . I would probably put , uh , put right , state this one day , shut up , really probably again super close . But I've gone to more of their games and I like , uh , you , yeah , green's my favorite color , so , yeah , I probably lean slightly towards them .

You know 51 , 49 type of thing okay , all right , cool , okay , all right .

Speaker 1

So here's the thing with me . Obviously , I already said , kent state is my school , right , it's my alma mater . It's like you know , and I remember doing my college visit and this was during , like one of the ncaa tournaments and antonio gage was playing .

Oh wow , really , you remember him , remember , yeah , nfl player never played down in kent state of football , but he also . He decided that they were going to give him a contract and obviously turned into a hall of fame career .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm just gonna say probably gonna make it into the hall of fame .

Speaker 1

Yeah , he's probably gonna make it into the hall of Fame . Yeah , he's probably going to make it into the Hall of Fame . Let's be honest , yeah , right . So ever since then I was like all right , I'll follow Kent State . You know what I mean , obviously , they haven't been there yet . Yeah , so that's my team .

So if I was to choose a different NCAA basketball team and this is a tough one , right and this is a tough one , right Because the easy choice would be the Buckeyes , right Because ?

it's also an unfortunate choice , but yeah , you should have chosen the Ohio State Buckeyes as your team , I mean if we're talking basketball , I could stomach that they're the basketball .

Speaker 2

I'm not a fan of the basketball team . I don't hate the basketball team . How are you in Ohio and hate Ohio State that state that much ? Uh ?

Speaker 1

it's , it's rough , you know it's funny . People ask me . It's like hey , don't you root for ohio state football ?

Like I never went to ohio state yeah , right , yeah so like I mean , I want them to do good , but it's not like I'm gonna cry about it , it's like you know , if they lose , like I don't , ohio is not my fucking team exactly , especially when you specifically went somewhere else . That's what I'm saying . I literally went somewhere else .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like I just didn't go to college , so when you specifically went somewhere else .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , so , okay , so , but if I was to choose basketball , and then I will have to choose my , you know . So my brother-in-law went to nc state , he graduated from nc state , he got his um I think it's like his golf , something major right at uh , at nc state . So I guess I would have to you nc state as the uh school , you know .

Or , or my nieces , um , she is actually now going to be going into ecu eastern carolina . Okay , she's a pirate , you know what I mean . So it's one of those teams , but you know . So that's that's . You know , if you have to put me on the spot because I know that's what your next question is gonna be , I , if I got to pick one , you got to pick one .

It'll probably be NC State , okay .

Speaker 2

It makes sense if it's literally your hometown team now and if you have the family connection as well .

Speaker 1

Oh , dude , it's crazy , because it's like you know where I am here , right , it's like NC State , but if you go a little bit , you know , then you got NC , right , unc or Duke . Dude , it is wild here , man , when it comes to those teams . Man , dude , it gets wild .

Speaker 2

I bet , because I was going to say like even around here where I'm from , there's a lot of colleges but there's not a lot of like Power 5 colleges and stuff . But there , yeah , it's like NC State . Then what 20 minutes or an hour maybe , to Duke within another ?

Speaker 1

10 minutes , not even it's like yeah , state than what , 20 minutes or an hour , maybe , to a duke within another 10 minutes , like yeah , 45 minutes .

Speaker 2

It's like right there , right and then north carolina , right there then a little further wake forest and not too far the other way , and it's clemson yeah , they love their college ball down here , dude , it is , it's , it's absolutely wild .

Speaker 1

So I , I don't know , yeah , yeah , so yeah that's a good one . I mean , look at that . We spent some time talking about NCAA basketball and we both don't really want to have .

Speaker 2

I would have thought that would have been like about the fastest one .

Speaker 1

Exactly so , all right , so let's stick with with the NCAA . What do you think ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , might as well . We're kind of somewhat on the subject .

Speaker 1

Might as well on the subject . Let's get it done and over with .

College Football Team Preferences

So we follow college football , right , and we mostly do it , just because , well , it's college football . Yeah , you know , to me I'm going to go first because this is an easy one for me . Again , alma mater , kent State . I'm a golden flash through and through . You know what I mean . My team sucks , sucks , but I'm still gonna follow them right .

Yeah , uh , and they played a horrible name at dick stadium . That's the name of the stadium dick stadium d-i-x , but they call it dick stadium . You know what I mean ? I was like jesus . Can we get a different name ? yeah , I'm surprised they haven't changed it by now for real , they should anyways .

So I'm a golden flash , but here's the one team that I will always follow . I have always followed this and you're gonna probably laugh , but it's the oregon ducks . I've always loved what they do when it comes to uniforms .

I love the old school logo , like the with the yellow and green , you know I mean like with the with the daffy duck looking one , you know , I mean that's the one I like the most . Yeah , always love that . They bring out new colors , new , new color schemes , new logos , new helmets all of that the whole night .

You know what I mean look good , feel good , play good . You know what I mean ? Yeah , so the oregon ducks would be the one . And now they're gonna be in the big 10 , dude , so even better that's true , I like that one .

Speaker 2

That's a good one . Uh , I do . Uh , now that you mentioned that too , I do kind of remember you talking about about them before and saying you'd like them . I don't know if I necessarily knew .

Speaker 1

It was like that high on the list , but oh yeah , no , like as far as all the schools , like I'm not gonna . Yeah , I mean , like I said again , and I grew up in ohio , right , I mean .

So it's like you follow you , you , you root , but you , but I never really was like I'm a poor guy you know what I mean right , yeah , so , and I will never choose michigan , ever now , and there's not a thread of my body that will ever choose michigan , right yeah , and I get that .

Speaker 2

That's probably .

Speaker 1

It's a common uh theme amongst most people in ohio yeah , not michigan , not michigan state , not Western , you know , michigan or Eastern Michigan , none of that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I get it , I get it .

Speaker 1

You would do the same . Don't act like you wouldn't .

Speaker 2

Well , you said , we do know everything , we know in this exercise right . Here we go . This is an important question . Okay , go ahead . You say it was one of the easiest ones for you .

This was actually probably the hardest one for me , because this is michigan I'm disconnecting this thing right now because the reason this was the hardest for me is because all the other sports I have the team that's very clearly my team , but almost every other one .

I've got a handful other teams that I do also root for and stuff this one , uh , 100 of the times like I'm literally not only rooting watching every georgia game , but anybody georgia plays on their schedule all year long .

Whether they've played them already or they have not , I'm rooting for them to win every week because I wanted to help georgia's schedule and things like that . I'm like 100 , all that matters is georgia to me , basically , and stuff and stuff and .

Speaker 1

Ohio .

Speaker 2

Heights . Yeah , sure , uh-huh . Go ahead , anyway . So I had originally narrowed it down to about five teams Fucking hell , because this was tough . But the three that I would not choose but were in that list , one was UC . I like them . They're local , all that stuff , I like their uniforms and all that .

Speaker 1

All right , cincinnati Bearcats , by the way , whoever was thinking about it . Home of the Kelsey brothers , yeah , that's true .

Speaker 2

There's probably a lot of just actual UCs Around here . They're UC .

Speaker 1

UC , anyways , go ahead .

Speaker 2

Another one is UCF . I always kind of liked them .

Speaker 1

The Black Knights .

Speaker 2

And then also now that they've had this good run over the last six , eight years or whatever . And the fifth one is actually was Oregon too . I like again . I like green , yeah , I like how they mix up some uniforms .

Some of them are pretty terrible , but for the most part they're pretty good , yeah , and I like the color schemes and stuff , like that Throwback one as well . So those are a couple I thought about . Um , eventually I had to narrow it down to one , but it came down to one of these two .

So the one I probably wouldn't choose , but as number as close , is michigan , because I do root for michigan , because I hate you right now . Why are you even ?

Speaker 1

doing this .

Speaker 2

Honestly , if push came to shove , they may have ended up being the number one , because I already root for them a lot just because I hate Ohio State so much , oh God .

Speaker 1

Your veins are full of vinegar , not blood , it's just vinegar .

Speaker 2

They very possibly would be the team I would choose okay for the sake of this , that they're not the one I'm choosing . The one I am choosing is vanderbilt , which would kind of stink because they're so bad , but and I remember we're talking georgia doesn't exist anymore , so yeah , those are the rivalries , not that they were much of a rival .

I have perplexia right now I'm not going to lie , it's Nashville , they're Nashville the SEC again , the Golden Black Now again . If I just start from scratch and it comes down to Vanderbilt , who's one of the perennial worst teams , and Michigan , who's pretty good , I may actually it'd be hard to not lean towards Michigan if it's close just for that reason .

But It'd be hard to not lean towards Michigan if it's close just for that reason , but for the sake of this discussion .

Speaker 1

I'm going to say Vanderbilt , okay , yes , I know , you know , I know , nashville , I get that part , I get it . But like you've got like national championship .

Speaker 2

Pedigree , you're right . And again , it's hard . This is all hypothetical . Hypothetical , obviously . It would be hard . If I know all I know , it would be hard to pick a team even though they're a power five . That's just perennially terrible .

So again , when push comes to shove , maybe I would lean more towards michigan , but I'd like to think I would choose vanderbilt amongst those two .

Speaker 1

Okay , all right , I mean again all right hey listen , that's your list , man , again yeah , your list yeah , that's your list , man . Again , yeah , your list . Yeah , it's your list . We're gonna go with that .

Speaker 2

I get why I think you dig deeper into it , it shouldn't really be too surprising . But I get why on the surface it's kind of surprising , yeah yeah , exactly , so , okay .

Speaker 1

So so we have we , we've done nhl , we've done nba , ncaa , basketball , ncaa um ncaa uh , football . Okay , what do we got next ?

Speaker 2

Either NFL or MLB , all right .

Speaker 1

NFL Okay , we both have our teams . We've had our fun at making fun of each other with our respective teams . Obviously , you are a London Jaguars .

Speaker 2

Not anymore . They're about to build this $1.2 billion stadium .

Speaker 1

Bro , that thing is massive , by the way , it's like holy shit .

Speaker 2

If it ends up looking anything close to the way that drawing is , then I absolutely cannot wait to go to some of those games .

Speaker 1

That'll be kind of crazy down there in Jacksonville . People will be going nuts .

Speaker 2

That heat down there is brutal bro , that place is brutal .

Speaker 1

They should not be playing any games in the day .

Speaker 2

Right , dude , there's no shade whatsoever right and plus , everybody wants to see them in prime time anyway no , they don't no , they don't . I mean when trevor's healthy , they do again . No , they don't . No , they don't I mean , when trevor is healthy , they do again . No , they don't .

He's about to get a 50 plus million dollar annual extension , do you think so ? Yeah , that's the reports going out there .

Speaker 1

Check , uh , cbs4 , so that they're they're deep into the conversation apparently okay , hey , whatever I mean , you're worth as much as they pay you baby you're right , you're right so if , if khan wants to pay that man , you know , whatever money he'll get it uh , he hasn't earned it , but whatever , it's cool . Uh , all right .

So you're a jaguars fan , I'm a cleveland browns fan , right ? We ? We make fun of each other . Obviously , my team , you know , always happen to choke right at the most important prime time games . That's how that goes and it is the factory of sadness , as some people will know .

We'll hear once they hear that they'll be like yep , cleveland browns , uh , that's literally called the factory of sadness uh so all right , so we cannot pick these teams . Okay , these things never existed , yep , yep , okay , I'm sure you had

Favorite NFL Teams and Honorable Mentions

. You were tossing and turning , you were having your nightmares about this one . It was .

Speaker 2

This one was tough .

Speaker 1

Who would you pick , dude , okay .

Speaker 2

Okay so .

Speaker 1

I swear to God , if you picked the Dallas Cowboys , I'm turning this fucking thing off .

Speaker 2

So again , like with all these sports , I picked it . I narrowed it down to a handful . First , I like to just mention who my runners up were .

Speaker 1

I love your honorable mention stuff , by the way it's just always good .

Speaker 2

You always have honorable mentions I try , especially like here , where it's otherwise just one team , that's too short of an answer . A couple of teams I came up with that were just missed .

One of them is the Bears , because when I was super young my mom liked the Bears a lot , so I was going to naturally lean towards root and form , so they've always been one of my favorite teams . Well until the last couple of years when I had to root against them because of Justin Fields . But now that's lifted and I can root for him again .

Speaker 1

Don't be hating on justin fields . That dude is about to turn around . You know the pitchfork squealers .

Speaker 2

Okay , calm down yeah , he is , you're right , because they're always good and he's about to turn them around , so they're not always good .

Speaker 1

I mean , yeah , they haven't had a losing season yeah , but they haven't had like and they didn't make the playoffs last year yeah , they did did they ? Yeah I just don't remember . Oh yeah , that's right , early exit . Uh , continue on anyway , uh .

Speaker 2

Another team is the rams . I uh gross which part of it's because I I like their colors and when they unveiled those uniforms I thought they were terrible . And when in the actual unveiling and stuff , but from the moment I actually saw them on the field I'm like all right , these are actually pretty cool .

Speaker 1

No , still hate the logo . They should have kept the white and blue .

Speaker 2

When they came out with peck , oh dude , love that white and blue they could have done something with it , for sure , but the the product they actually had on the field for those couple years were hideous because of the little bit of the old uniforms .

Speaker 1

Yeah , oh yeah , no , no , no , yeah . Well , I'm talking about the helmet alone . The helmet alone was gorgeous . Anyways , continue on . I'm sorry , yeah .

Speaker 2

So like that , but again part of them , that I probably shouldn't count them because part of that is they tend to have a lot of Georgia players and stuff and okay , okay . So then way in the . The one other team is kind of a similar one is , uh , the eagles .

Again partially , yeah , the eagles , but they honestly might have been number one on my list if they would go back full-time to their kelly green uniforms bro and gray yeah , oh , yeah .

Like first of all , even the uniform itself is better anyway , but as I I was saying , green's my favorite color and specifically Kelly green is my favorite color , and when they finally unveiled those throwback uniforms last year , they looked so good on the field oh sick . Yeah , it doesn't have to literally be those uniforms .

Even if they did something similar to their modern design but switched to green , it would still be great . So those are just the runner-up choices . Okay , the number one on here was again had to go back to my original question of like do the jaguars just never existed , because rivalries could come into play .

So assuming they never existed , once again I would go towards nashville and tit Titans are not my second favorite team , but assuming the Jaguars never existed , I would lean towards the Nashville brand . Now they could use a little bit of work . I don't like their navy blue uniforms . I don't like their navy blue uniforms , but any other combination .

I don't like when it's navy blue on navy blue , but any other combination they wear . I when it's navy blue on navy blue , yeah , but any other combination they wear , I think the uniforms look pretty good . I think . And again , it's nashville . Uh , like I said , they're not in this scenario . They're not a rival of jacksonville , never have been .

When I would like to clarify they're not my second favorite team , I wouldn't say at the moment , but if jacksonville never existed , that's uh probably who I would go for . It's a little difficult to say because they are a rival of the Jags .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I wouldn't have thought . Who would have thought that you would have picked a Nashville team ? Crazy Right .

Speaker 2

That's why that question was key on this one .

Speaker 1

Okay , all right , so I'm a Browns fan . And then when they came back , I was super happy because during that time which funny enough is like you know , they left at 94 , like you know , cleveland 94-95 season , right .

So during that time between them , and you know , in 99 , I my very first jersey that I own here in the US , where I moved to the US , was a Drew Bledsoe jersey okay , drew . Bledsoe . Remember when they had the actual , the , the actual logo right on the shoulder pads , you know yeah , the flying elvis on there yeah , the flying .

So those were like , I had that jersey , had that jersey , I love that jersey . I became a drew bledsoe fan . I was brokenhearted when they , you know , replaced them . Obviously they went on a . You know , I was totally wrong . Well for them yeah , I think it worked out well , right , uh , I would not pick any of the teams in the afc north .

It's just sacrilege . But again , the browns don't exist in this . Doesn't matter .

Speaker 2

I know what I know can't stand baltimore well , yeah , I don't blame you for not choosing those teams , just anyway .

Speaker 1

But I just meaning , if you miss , because you people tell us like , well , you know , your wife is a steelers fan , can't do it , can't do it . Okay . So here's a couple of teams that you know that I I thought let's do some honorable mention for ed rivera . I like , okay , one honorable mention is uh tempobay buccaneers .

Right , you know , uh , I'm a firm believer in second chances and I gave uh , you know , big man field second chance , you know , and he did really good things . He , obviously he got a little nice little contract extension there . Uh , he's making that money , he's now he's a dad and all that .

Speaker 2

So tempe bay buccaneers that was like his fourth chance , though you know , tomato , tomato , okay , okay .

Speaker 1

Uh , it was because he was with the panthers and then with the rams , and then you know , yeah , but eventually he got enough second chances exactly he .

Eventually he got his , you know his 20th second chance and you know he made it count exactly um , uh , the other team , that , um , that I would , um , I would put there was again the the patriots , right , because that's you know , when the the browns were gone , that's who I was rooting for . Uh , knowing what I know , now I can't do it , you know and again

Comparison of NFL and MLB Leagues

. You know this was one of the things , one of those you know , the stipulations , right , that we know what we know about each of those teams , right , yeah for sure .

When , when my wife and I started dating , we're talking and everything , and then you know , we both found out that we're both fans of different teams Browns and Steelers Right , I was like , all right , we need to , we need a team to root for , you know together , you know what I mean either the Tampa Buccaneers or the Seattle Seahawks .

Speaker 2

Okay , was this like she had liked those teams too ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , we had the t-shirts and everything , the whole nine . You know what I'm saying . I'm not going to pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers . However , I will pick the Seattle Seahawks .

Speaker 2

Is that because of Russell Wilson helping out ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , the whole thing , absolutely yeah , yeah , uh , p carol , big , huge fan of p carol , you know I mean you know , being at the age that he's at . Like you know the energy that that dude brings .

Speaker 2

You know what I mean saying I thought you maybe because you were a patriots fan back in the day around the time he was the coach there no , I remember that that was a forgotten years uh , you know , because then he went to usc and he did what he did , but like he , his energy dude , like the dude got some obviously granted .

Speaker 1

You know he wanted to stay a coach but uh , you know uh management was like right , not so much . Yeah , you know , I mean you're getting up there and then perhaps maybe you should give the reins to someone else , right , uh ? But uh , yeah , seattle , seahawks , man the seahawks uh , that's you know .

Speaker 2

Now , do you , since we mentioned something about uh , throwback uniforms for the eagles , since you're bringing up the seahawks , do you think seahawks should go back to those ?

Speaker 1

uniforms , silver helmets , bro , oh yeah , those are nice , can we get a ? Little couple of updates . But , dude , those things are sick yeah , I think .

Speaker 2

I think in all these cases , like the actual throwback is better than what they have right now , but the ideal situation is a modern version of let's get it exactly , let's give it a modern version , right , yeah , um , uh and everything .

Speaker 1

So , like I that I would , I would definitely , definitely pick that . So it'll be seahawk , so nfl would ? That would be the thing , it's like you know . So it's not that that one actually wasn't that hard , you know . I mean , here's the thing , that I was having a good conversation with Darla about this .

It's like you know , we , we have our teams right and uh , my question that I asked was like all right , so which one is more exciting for you for , like you know , opening day or opening weekend kind of thing , nfl or NA orB ?

And she was like , actually , I would pick the NFL because we love fantasy that much , so we watch the Red Zone channel more than we watch the actual full game . You know what I mean .

Speaker 2

Yeah , see , I can get how there's like there are differences in that , because I know I've my brother asked me one time . He's like let's rank our favorite leagues and stuff and 100% baseball is my favorite sport , but I chose college football as my favorite league because like the game , every single game is so important . Everything , every game matters .

Yeah so , and georgia football is probably my favorite team , so I was like league , I would say that's my favorite league , but sport baseball is better than football , so I get how there's like differences in that so for me , like my baseball , oh , that's my love , that's my true love , right ?

Speaker 1

you see , every single thing that I have here in my office the vast majority is baseball right ? I even have well , I actually have a jim brown uh picture . You can't really see it off the Baseball , baseball , baseball , baseball , baseball , baseball .

Right , here's the thing , though NFL is a much better league overall when it comes to popularity and what they've been able to do . Fantasy football has really turned Darla and I's fandom into more of the red zone channel of fantasy football . Again , it's hard into more of the red zone channel .

Speaker 2

Fantasy football , yeah , but again it's hard . The nature of the sport , the foot . Each football game is more important exactly it's easier to get a lot more into each individual game .

You're like I love the tigers , I watch them all the time , like I was watching the game tonight , yeah you lose a game today and it's okay , but yeah , it's like I'm not staying sitting there watching every single play , or or being super upset when the diamondbacks scored on them or whatever , and I'm not , you know , planning my whole day around it like I would

a georgia game or january's game .

Speaker 1

Same with the nfl right , like I mean dude , the nfc north , the afc north was stacked last year . You lose one game and dude .

Speaker 2

Then every team finished with a winning record .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , every team in that league finished with a winning record baltimore 13-4 , cleveland 11-6 , pittsburgh 10-7 , cincinnati 9-8 and did you see the schedule that was just unveiled for this year ?

Speaker 2

that ? The last seven games , as I say for the pittsburgh last six or seven games they have every . Every one of their divisional games are like week 11 and on and then like one or two non-divisional games I forget who they are exactly , but it's like chiefs and bills or something like that on top of all six of their divisional games .

Brutal , yeah , if they're not like eight and one or something , then into that point they're , they're dead , yeah same with cleveland .

Speaker 1

Cleveland , I think it has like the second or third hardest schedule oh yeah , just overall .

Speaker 2

Overall , yeah , I think it might have been the hardest , according to something I saw .

Speaker 1

I think yeah I was like jesus .

Speaker 2

They hate the browns right yeah , again , that's obviously largely influenced by just being in that division . That's what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

Exactly Right . So it's like all right . So what's a better league ? You know what I mean . Because , like , for example , we all make this . You know , in baseball we all say it's like you know , we don't . You don't have to win every single game , just win the series . Right , exactly Right .

So if you get two out of three or three out of four , whatever it's like , if you get that , you know you're going to lose a game , you know that , but you still win the series . The more series you win , the higher percentage is that you're going to make the playoffs . Right ? So , like , those are the kind of things that you see in baseball and football .

Like , bro , you better be winning and if you lose , you better hope that other teams are helping you out right , yeah , 100 .

Speaker 2

Yeah , teams are helping you out , right , yeah , 100 . Yeah , it's just like that's just wild . Wild to me , right , but it's funny how , because of things like that , why you know you can like one sport better , but you know another team from another sport or a league from a different sport might be something you enjoy more specifically exactly dude so .

Speaker 1

But so so there you go . Uh , we got off on a little tangent here , obviously but yeah well , that's it , that's . It's fascinating . I find this fascinating , this whole . Like you know what , which league is more popular or which one do you prefer ? Like I mean and , and and guys .

The conversation there that you guys are hearing are from two massive baseball fans .

Speaker 2

We love baseball , that's yeah , you know what I mean , that's what I do Easily , the favorite sport 100% .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , Favorite sport .

Speaker 2

Yeah same , and yet still we agree about the significance of the football games and stuff .

Speaker 1

Yeah , the significance is much higher . We'll see now because it's a 17-game schedule , but they want to go to 18 games .

Speaker 2

You know what I mean and I we'll see now because it's a 17 game schedule , but like no , they want to go to 18 games , you know , and I'm sure they will , as soon as they went up to 17 . They will , they will . Yeah , it's like they don't want . They don't want to settle on an odd number like that .

So they're they , but it was going to be too hard to get to the the nflpa to agree to add two games in one nflpa fucked up when they agreed to all this stuff , so it's their fault .

Speaker 1

They'll get rid of some uh , some pre-season games that's better than than not getting rid of them , but it's not an equal I'll be honest , I'd rather have an 18 game season than , you know , having those pre-season games , because no one cares about these fans yeah , literally .

Speaker 2

The only thing I don't like about even just from even as a fan's point of view that I don't like about adding to the schedule is like the records and stuff . It's just , it's bad enough when they added the one game .

Now all these you know , yardage records and touchdown records to get easier to get broken , and thankfully they haven't not many of them have been broken yet but as soon as you add the 18th game , it's inevitable then it's the same thing with baseball , though , right , I mean you had 162 games now , but it wasn't always 162 games , right , you're right .

But and I know they added more than one game , so I think it went 154 to 162 , but that's 140 something at one point .

Speaker 1

You know what I mean . So yeah , but that's a conversation for us to have another , another episode too , because I have my thoughts on the season being this long okay , yeah , let's have that .

Speaker 2

Another one then . Cause , cause . Yeah , that's a good subject for it .

Speaker 1

This is a totally different conversation to have . Yeah , all right . So now we let's come down . All right , I'll leave minor league baseball out of this , because we we kind of follow every single team , to be honest with you .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like I don't . Like I would probably say Nashville is my favorite team there , but then I love Florence . Y'all also love Dayton , dragon and stuff , so I don't even have a favorite team there .

Speaker 1

Yeah , Like I mean , if I , if I was you were to ask me , I was like , yeah , I would say the Durham bulls , but the draw was because I , you know , that was the first team I I fell in love with , but like I follow every single one

Hat Collection and Favorite Baseball Teams

exactly .

Speaker 2

We've got hats of you know , more than half the teams and stuff .

Speaker 1

Probably I counted my hats dude , I did I have remember we are having a conversation on your podcast about , like you know , the copa . I have 63 copa hats really yeah , nice was it .

Speaker 2

I'm assuming it's not 63 different teams .

Speaker 1

There's probably some teams you have multiple of a couple of teams that I have , multiple of one of them , a couple of teams that I the they're no longer have those uh brands , right , uh . So remember the raspas . You know we never we talked about that one . They're no longer around . Um , during bulls came up with their cervezas , that one's not around , right ?

So , like I mean , there's a couple of them that I have that are like you know , yeah , probably over 50 teams still , I would imagine .

Speaker 2

Then yeah , oh yeah yep , yep , yep yep , yep , exactly .

Speaker 1

And it's funny , you know the one that we were talking about that couldn't find the west michigan whitecaps . Yeah , I had their hat , I do . Really . I was like , well , I was like no shit . Here it is . You didn't even remember having it , even like once you saw it . I know .

Speaker 2

That's the problem when you have ?

Speaker 1

I have well over 500 hats .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it'd be hard to remember every one of those and stuff . I mean I I guess even for me , like with the fitteds , if I had to . Yes , it's probably around 75 or something , but your fitters are fucking ridiculous expensive they are . That's why otherwise I'd be much higher than that .

But yeah , same thing as some of them get buried and stuff that I kind of forget about until I see it and I'm like , yeah , I haven't worn that one in a while .

Speaker 1

So there you go . All right , let's , let's , let's round this up , baby . Ok , major League Baseball I'm sure this was your hardest one . For you , yeah , yes and no , or was it ? Was it college football ?

Speaker 2

College football was the hardest one for me because , that one is like I just couldn't even hardly imagine rooting for anyone but Georgia and stuff , whereas even though baseball , like I said , my favorite sport , like we discussed but there are a lot of teams I root for still Like Tigers , obviously far and away my favorite team , but there are a lot of ones I

root for and part of the reason for that is , amongst all my favorite teams , the Tigers are the one that I was actually the oldest when I actually picked them Because , similar to like when I said I became a UConn fan because I knew you rooted against Duke , yeah , when I was a kid in baseball I just knew you rooted against the Yankees .

So when I was a kid in the 90s , the Braves were kind of my favorite team because they were always playing the Yankees , yeah , and then 2001 came and the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees , so I kind of started leaning towards the Diamondbacks .

Speaker 1

Interesting .

Speaker 2

Then two years later , the Marlins beat the Yankees and I loved Miguel Cabrera and Dontrell Willis so I kind of became a Marlins fan for a couple of years .

Speaker 1

I can't remember . They beat my .

Speaker 2

Indians in 97 .

Speaker 1

In 97 , yep .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I forgot about that one .

Speaker 1

That one hurts .

Speaker 2

Oh I bet , Because I seven . Yeah , yeah , I got about that one , but that one hurts . Oh I bet , because I was getting seven games too right uh-huh , same with the cubs yeah , that one hurt a lot of that um but yeah , so I kind of became a marlins fan for a couple years .

Appreciate that all right , you brought it up , I did , I did , it was all my fault , all right , so all right so you got , you got a couple of teams that you can choose from that end yeah so , but so I like all those teams even still , I also like the rays a lot . I just love the way they do business and I like how they always get .

I love their color scheme , all this stuff . So there's a lot of teams I like there . It would be hard to choose just one of those . But the one hometown team around here that I actually very much root for is the cincinnati reds . So it was actually fairly easy to pick the reds as my second choice here .

Okay , that's why it was kind of easy , just because I like them a lot too . Now , if I had to dig down to the third , I don't it would be one of those teams I just mentioned . I don't know , that would start getting really hard to be which one of these , because I like them all for different reasons . Well , I guess kind of for the same reason .

But yeah , as far as just picking the actual winner of the next group , the Reds are , like I said , the one local team of the major sports that I actually very much root for and stuff . I like it , I like it .

I local team of the major sports that I actually , you know , very much root for and stuff so , okay , all right , I like it , I like it , I like it .

Speaker 1

Uh , I like it , don't respect it .

Speaker 2

I like it reminds me of uh , what's his name ? Uh , lando Calrissian , and Star Wars , solo . Yeah , I like it . I don't agree with it , but I respect the opposite , so okay so what are my rules that I set for myself ?

Speaker 1

I didn't tell you to do this , but one of the rules I set for myself is that I would not pick any American Central team not even the Tigers so not the Sox , not the Guardians , not the Tigers , not the Royals , not the Twins although I do have a soft spot for the Twins why is that ?

Speaker 2

Curry Bucket yeah , okay , you know what I mean . Yeah , I don't remember , but when ?

Speaker 1

do you m the m always . I've always loved that m on it , the logo on the hat .

Speaker 2

Uh , when they're yeah , there's , I do like them . I won't say I like them ever since what ? Year or two ago , when they unveiled their new logos and uniforms and stuff , I kind of I got a little bit of respect for them because those uniforms are so clean .

Speaker 1

I actually do really . They did really a good job Again . Another conversation for another podcast that we're going to have is ranking the City Connections . You and me are like on opposite ends of this conversation . This is where you and me are going to have a fight about this because this is so good .

Speaker 2

We might need a . What do they call it when there's like a third person like there's , we're going to need a mediator yeah , mediator , yeah , we're gonna need uh , so I I would never read for the yankees .

Speaker 1

That's just not gonna happen . I'm not gonna root for the , the , the dodgers it's not gonna happen . Or the braves not gonna happen .

Speaker 2

You knowves too . Is that because they also beat the Indians ? Yeah , exactly .

Speaker 1

The Braves are not going to do that . You know what I mean . I'm going to do some honorable mentions here . I'm going to start with Seattle Mariners .

Speaker 2

There's a Seattle trend going here .

Speaker 1

I've always wanted to live there . The reason why I'm not picking them are the 90s man . There's a seattle trend going here . Yeah , exactly , I've always wanted to live there , but anyways , uh , the reason why I'm not picking them , you know the 90s man a 90s seattle yeah , oh , but I did love ken griffey man , I mean , who doesn't love ? How could you not ?

Yeah , right , hat backwards the whole nine . You know , it's just , I mean it's kangaroo and I love the fact I respect the man for saying . It's like if I was ever would have been traded or picked by the , you know , by the Yankees , he would have retired . I'm like that is some balls on this dude .

Speaker 2

I was like , I'll stay out for a year I'll retire and then come back . Right , yeah , that was great and I was a kid when it happened , but I still remember how big of a deal it was when the registrated forum around here yeah , you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

So , like , that's the one team I was like yeah , dude , you know I mean uh . So so like that one , uh , same with , like you to tampa bay rays . They've always done you know their thing , you know what I mean . Yeah , a huge fan when they came out , when they were the actual devil rays and not just a raise . Yeah , you know what I'm saying .

Like you're like , oh , ralph , I like that shit . That's nice dude . Yeah , so have that . As far as other ones , that was it . This one was kind of easy as well for me , not the hardest , because the reason for it is because I'm a massive Clemente fan .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you know what I mean . Yeah , also again kind of like Junior . You know how could you not be , especially you ? But I mean , yeah , also again kind of like junior . You know how could ? You not be especially you , but I mean exactly right , yeah , just anyway , yeah , but exactly puerto rico , son died , you know , helping other people and all that stuff .

Speaker 1

So the story is great , you know . I mean , I mean , if anybody you guys should listen to , uh , read his book , dude , so good , uh , the way , like that , what he dealt with , you know , insomnia and everything like it was , it's he dealt with a lot and the dude just still always delivered .

Speaker 2

I mean , he had a cannon for an arm yeah , I'm glad he was able to get that 3 000 pit before it all happens too if you have to last game of the season .

Speaker 1

3 000 dies after that mean it's wild , I mean it's just . And they never found his body .

Speaker 2

Yes , I remember hearing about that . That's so sad .

Speaker 1

So I mean it's crazy . So for me it would be the Pittsburgh Pirates . That's who I would pick , sure 100% .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that makes sense , and also fairly local to where you were growing up too .

Speaker 1

Yeah exactly , and it's funny because the colors are black and gold . But I can't stand the Steelers .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Even when I said something about the Penguins , you were like almost seemed like you were going to sound like a Pittsburgh .

Speaker 1

Nah . But , I like the Pittsburgh Penguins baby blues though .

Speaker 2

Okay , yeah , but yeah , those ones ones are . It is cool . I just it's hard for me knowing their logos and brands . So now it does just doesn't seem like them to me .

Speaker 1

Yeah exactly so yeah , yeah , so , but yeah , it would be the Pittsburgh Pirates . For me , though , man , I just can't , you know , can't I'll never , hate on the Pirates Ever .

Speaker 2

And they're not like rivals of the Guardians .

Speaker 1

No , national League American .

Speaker 2

League . Exactly yeah , clemente was probably the best baseball player from Puerto Rico , right .

Speaker 1

Yeah , he wasn't the first one major leaguer , though , who was Adam B Thorne .

Speaker 2

Okay , that's who they named that stadium after , right .

Speaker 1

Yep , his story is also wild .

Speaker 2

Is it ? I don't know anything about that .

Speaker 1

He died in Mexico . Okay , he got killed in Mexico , shot in Mexico , oh wow , yeah , look it up , dude , it's crazy .

Speaker 2

Okay , yeah , you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

So you know what I'm saying . So again , wow , like he was the first major leaguer . But clemente is the , you know , obviously the name that you hear right , yeah , and and for for people to like when they , when they found out he died , and all that too , like they , they waive the 10-year period . You know what I mean ?

Uh , yeah , uh , to make it into the hall .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's when you know you had a impact when they do things like that exactly so I I mean that's .

Speaker 1

You gotta respect that . You know what I'm saying . Yeah , uh , so yeah , that's Pittsburgh Steelers . I mean , uh , pirates Steelers can suck it um , but yeah , that's a yeah , that's a good one , that is a that's a good conversation on this one dude it was yeah , you know I can uh some , uh , a handful of them in both ways .

Speaker 2

I'm sure we're pretty predictable , but then there's a handful of curveballs in there as well yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , I I'm a little surprised , though , with with your basketball chosen teams and football .

Speaker 1

To be honest with you , you seem more surprised with the football one . Really , you picked Vandy . Again the Commodores .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the Commodores Gross Again . It's Nashville .

Speaker 3

I like the golden black , yeah , again , yeah , yeah , yeah yeah , but again I'm trying to .

Speaker 2

This is somewhat what I kind of hope I would choose . But again , in reality , knowing what I know , I think either a team that's perennially terrible or a team that's perennially good . If it's kind of somewhat of a debate between that , it would be hard not to choose the good one . Of course I may . Kind of somewhat of debate between that .

It would be hard not to choose the good one . Of course I may .

Speaker 1

may go with michigan there but yeah , I can't do michigan . Though I can't do michigan , I mean if you have you know , I .

Hypothetical Team Selections and Super Conferences

Here's the thing , though , like I , it's one of those conversations that we were saying I was like you know , this is who I hope I would pick , like you're saying , but who would be like the actual teams that we would actually pick exactly because then we're also saying this with obviously , you know , we thought about it a little bit and stuff too , but um , but

if we were literally in these scenarios where our team just never existed , who knows ? What we would have picked exactly . Who would the teams that we would have chosen as that ? right would I have a cup be honest , like what if I became a steelers fan , because that's the closest local team here ?

Speaker 2

exactly , or there could be things like that , or you know , like , maybe if just one of these sports , the first game we ever went to , maybe it'd be the , the home team there , or the , maybe the team they were playing for , whatever , because their uniforms were better , or something like that too .

Speaker 1

Exactly the very first major league baseball game that I went to was a cleveland indians , was it ? Yeah ?

Speaker 2

okay , when I moved here , all right , yeah .

So yeah , there's , and there's all this hypothetical what we're saying , but obviously who knows what in reality would , would actually have been the case , because there are factors like that that could have came into play , of course , um , and some of these things you know , we , we say based off what we know now , but we also say , like not to take players you

know for , like , georgia players and but it's hard not to because I , I do yeah , yeah , yeah like one team a little bit , naturally , because of that or whatever and stuff like that .

Speaker 1

But here's the thing , though , like and another one that I would for basketball my very first basketball game was not the cavaliers oh really , who was it ?

Phoenix suns oh really okay , all right out in phoenix , you know I mean like , like again , we , we didn't grow up basketball fans , we grew up baseball fans , you know , uh , and then we fell in love with football and obviously you know that's the rest is history .

Speaker 2

But , like , basketball has always been like my third or fourth sport that I follow yeah , I always say again like I don't , I don't even watch 99 of nba games , that whereas at least college basketball I get into it in march and I always say you know , the season technically starts like beginning of november .

I always say it doesn't start until college football is over . It's like I'll check some box scores or whatever during that time , but I'm not watching college basketball games until the day after yeah , the day after the college football playoff championship game is when the basketball season starts , then also .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , you gotta . You got the regular season right , because every game matters like we're talking about . Then you got college regular season right , because every game matters like we're talking about . Then you got college ball season . Ball season is actually a season all of in itself .

Speaker 2

It is when I was a little younger . I was kind of on board of that side where people are like , oh , there's too many bowl games . Some of these are kind of pointless , but the last handful of years I'm like bring on more bowl games . These are fun even when it's .

Speaker 1

And you know they're going to , especially now with the expansion of college , probably the college football playoff .

Speaker 2

Yeah , for sure You're going to have to do , you're going to do something . And yeah , I that's why I've talked to some of my friends too Like I I think expanding to 12 teams was probably too much , but when those games super happy the fact that they actually did 12 . Yeah , and all these extra games are just gonna be so fun what would you tell us ?

Speaker 1

like you would have gone with eight , I would have gone with eight .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think , uh , yeah maybe I'm not saying 12 should . Maybe 12 is the right number , but I I think eight is because there's there's a handful of years , like this year , where there's more than four teams that deserve to be in the discussion , but honestly , even even that's rare .

Speaker 1

Typically it's two or three . That's pushing it , Although I'll tell you this , though I'll tell you this the FCS , though right , They've always had their college playoff system and , man , it works for them , dude .

Speaker 2

You're right . You're right and I do like the idea of one non-power four yeah .

Like one group of five team guaranteed a chance , because now , theoretically , every team legitimately controls their own fate now , because I mean , the only way that could possibly not happen now is if , like two , group of five teams end up undefeated , but even then with 12 spots they have a shot to get in anyway yep , we're gonna pick a max school champion to

make the top .

Speaker 1

No , you're not , I mean . I know that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , probably not . But unless two group of five teams go undefeated , then every team is given a shot at least to win . Ranking is going to be super crazy this year it is . I'm going to be interested to see how , like last year , how they had so many of these at the end of the year .

It's like well , this is what next year's bracket would be like if it ended now , and stuff like that . And a lot of those matchups though it was inter-conference matchups , you know it's an SEC versus SEC and I'm wondering how many .

Obviously they're not going to massively change the rankings , but if there's like an Ole Miss , that's like number nine or something and Missouri's number eight , Are they going to pull Ole Miss down to number 10 , if it's reasonable to do so ?

Speaker 1

They fucked Florida State over , so I'm not going to put anything past them at this point .

Speaker 2

Honestly , as long as it's reasonable . If it's unreasonable , don't do it . If it's reasonable to do it , I would rather them do that honestly to avoid inter-conference matchups in the first round . Obviously you can't avoid it for so you can only avoid it so long , especially with all some of these conferences getting larger and more teams in the same conference .

But I would be yeah , super leagues , you know what I mean it's like yeah , yeah , so I do like that they have a top four spots . Go to the conference champions , though , for one to get four different conferences in the in there , but but also .

Speaker 1

Here's the thing , though Okay , you're going to give that to the conference championship , but you're getting rid of conferences nowadays . So you got the big 10 , the SEC , the ACC . You know what I mean . I mean , but the , the , the big 12 , right , I mean . So you got these conferences .

Some of these conferences are no longer going to be big 10 growing ACC , I mean SEC growing . Right , they're adding teams . So it'll be wild to see what's going to happen . So I'm fascinated by how this college football season is going to be .

Speaker 2

I agree and I think it's a good time for these super conferences to start if they were ever going to because now a lot of these teams like Michigan have these brutal schedules this year . But it's good timing for it because now , with the 12 expanded playoffs , you can afford a second loss .

Speaker 1

Hot take for me here . That's why Jim Harbaugh said , man , I'm out .

Speaker 2

So do you think he would have been out even if they didn't win the championship then ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , he would have been . I was like I'm not going to deal with this shit .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm sure that that helped and all that stuff . I do think it would be as close as he was getting each year . If he fell a little short again . I do think it'd be hard to walk away , but it worked out so well for him . A he gets that championship . He ends with three straight wins against Ohio .

Speaker 1

State .

Speaker 2

Three straight Big Ten championships . So I mean yeah .

Speaker 1

Oh , the dude went out like he knew he had them by the balls . Yeah , like he's , like . I want you , want me to come back to michigan . You're about to pay me right exactly .

Speaker 2

It's hard to think now how , right before this run started , they were about to fire him . Supposedly . I think he had to , like restructure his contract , take a pay cut or something .

Speaker 1

Took a pay cut , bro . Like I mean , this dude was like all right , I'm gonna take a pay cut . Yeah , watch me . And now , now and he just left , he's like I'm out , I'll see you guys , right , yeah ?

Speaker 2

exactly Bye , yeah , and I think they not . Maybe he was the best man for the job anyway , but I think they hired a Sharon more , mostly to avoid what happened to Alabama , where it's like bringing in someone new and 30 different people transfer out and stuff like that , I'm out yeah , if I can keep , keep more here .

Anyone that's already here is probably with alabama , these players leaving .

Speaker 1

I'm like y'all a bunch of idiots . Look what he did with uh , with washington yeah , right , like maybe you should have stayed I agree .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I , because I mean people are still calling one of the best coaches out there and , based off the data , I mean it's hard to argue right now .

Speaker 1

You can't argue with the dude . Like I mean dude , you took Washington to the national championship with Pennix Jr .

Speaker 2

Come on .

Speaker 1

Yeah , exactly the dude was before he went to Washington , he was playing at Indiana .

Speaker 2

And it's like not only that , but if you look back it is like coaching career . In general , I fit where the stops were . They've been like one or two other places that were like lower , like group of five and like divisions , fcs or something , but everywhere he was gone he's , you know 11 every year , yeah , so so the people that transfer .

Speaker 1

They transfer because they just wanted to get out . Let's just you know , yeah , some of them were probably just going to transfer anyway , and yeah , damn dude , this thing , this has been a good one , man , like I mean , we're , we're over an hour already we're having conversation about this , so you know .

So , anyways , I want to hear from you guys , uh , who are listening , you know , tag us and let me know what you guys think of , like the teams that you would choose if you're , if your current team that you follow on any like you're gonna have to pick them all . Just pick one or two . Let us know what you guys think about .

Who would you choose as far as , like , you know , the teams that you would follow , because this is a very intriguing , very fascinating conversation to have , just because it's just fantasy , right , like I mean , it's different than the normal stuff , right ? So let us know , uh , mike man , man , thanks for joining me , it's been fun dude Anytime .

Speaker 2

Thanks for having me . It was a good conversation .

Speaker 1

Your list is wrong , but it's cool , don't worry about it .

Speaker 2

That's the beauty of these kind of lists we're not necessarily saying who's best or what's best . This is just . Who would we root for ? Exactly Not rooting for Michigan Ever if you have any sort of respect for ohio state , then I can understand that , but I have no respect for ohio state .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I know you never do , as someone who was born in ohio . I wasn't even born in ohio , that's true . I moved there when I was 12 dog and you're like well , say hey to ohio , ohio State .

Speaker 2

You must have known a nicer group of Ohio State fan friends than I did .

Speaker 1

Not really . No , I mean , ohio is a football state , you know , and football . Even with my own fans in Cleveland I was like they get obnoxious as hell . Not going to lie I won't go to a football game NFL game , cleveland Browns game I won't . I said a long time ago that I'm never going to do that again .

Speaker 2

Because the fans are that bad . Yeah , fans are an asshole .

Speaker 1

Hell yeah , I'm not going to take my kid , my daughter , to an NFL game ? There's no way in hell , yeah .

Speaker 2

I can see that Not wanting to take your kids off because , yeah , even though teams that aren't necessarily bad fans , it's still not a great spot for it's cold , it's miserable .

Speaker 1

Doing december , january in ohio . Right then you got these people who just they start early in the morning at the union lot drinking , they make it to the stadium and then they're still drinking . No yeah , exactly . Thanks for no thanks I'll pass .

Speaker 2

I get that for sure .

Speaker 1

You know . So I'm good , I'll watch it from home . It's better , anyways , to watch a football game on TV anyways .

Speaker 2

Right it is . And then the drinks are cheaper too .

Speaker 1

Yeah , that's true . That's what I think we were talking about . It's like right . It's like which sport is better ? Yes , football is a much better like overall . You know what I mean to watch everything , but I'd rather go to a baseball game , and I have no problems going to a baseball game 100 .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like I'll . Yeah , you're so relaxing and you can be there by yourself and enjoying it . Or if you are there with someone , then you can kind of have watched a game and casually talk to the person too .

Speaker 1

It's kind of a win-win right , I'd love to get a conversation to have later on . Like you know , the the uh , the evolution of the sports , uh as as a whole together when it comes to football , uh , nba or a major league baseball , like spectating sports , or you know what I mean . So that's a .

We'll talk about that in another episode , but anyway , again , guys , thank you for listening . This was a lot of fun . Make sure you guys are following this knucklehead . Uh , his name is mike sellers . You know up to chat podcast uh , follow my podcast , um , and also on uh , every tuesday night 9 pm eastern time , the dhc sports show .

So we will see you guys later . Thanks for listening , bye . Hello .

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