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a week. We will be right back after a word from our sponsors. And welcome back to the Demon Inside. We turn now to that developing news. In an alleged murder spree out of Laredo tonight, a Border Patrol agent is under arrest. Channel 5's Valerie Gonzalez tells us four women were killed. On Labor Day weekend, a woman's body was discovered in a remote part of Laredo. This week, again, another female
body was found in the same area. Isidro Alaniswad, County District Attorney, said a pattern slowly emerged. Well, with the 1st 22 murders, there were some similarities, but obviously things began to, to become more clear as each murder took place and the MO and, and the way the bodies were, were discomforted and where the injuries were and the type of people they were. And so, you know, things started to match up that that we did have a serial killer.
The spree was confirmed this morning at one AMA woman escaped the grasp of a kidnapper. She sought safety with a law enforcement officer. Information she provided during interrogation LED officers to Juan David Ortiz. Authorities found them at a gas station of his fled. He was caught at a nearby parking lot. At 2:00 AM Webb County Sheriff's Office and DPS investigators found a third female victim at 1:00 PM this afternoon, they
found a fourth woman. District Attorney Alani says there were similarities between the crimes I. Do believe that these were people up the street either engaging in or or in some sort of prostitution. It seems that he was seeking out his victims, targeting his victims and that they were killed in similar fashion and and their bodies disposed of it in similar fashion. So it has all the indicators of being a a a a serial murder
spree. Elanie says Ortiz is a 10 year veteran with Border Patrol. This is the first time his office simultaneously handles 2 homicide investigations involving Border Patrol agents. The other case involves an agent accused of killing a woman and their child in April. It's. Very unusual that something like this happens, especially around the same time. You know, we're currently still prepping on the other capital
murder case. And now we, we have a, a multiple murder case with with, with this, with this agent. So unfortunate that that's the situation. I don't think it's any reflection on on Border Patrol. Alaniz believes our thieves to be a dangerous suspect, he said. He'll be asking a judge to keep off these behind bars. Border Patrol released a statement today, reading in part. Our sincerest condolences go out to the victim's family and friends.
While it is not CVP policy. While it is CVP policy to not comment on the details of an ongoing investigation, criminal action by our employees is not and will not be tolerated. The Texas Rangers and Webb County Sheriff's Office are investigating. Hello Mike Demon Insiders and welcome back to the Demon Inside. I'm your host, John Venom, and today we will be doing the case of 1 David Ortiz. Now I'm here in San Antonio, TX.
This is South Texas and about 2 1/2 hours away is a small town called Laredo, which sits on the border between the United States and Mexico, is probably one of the busiest border crossings in the nation. So in 2018 there was a serial spree killer. He had killed 4 sex workers.
These murders occurred in Laredo from September 3rd to September 15th of 2018. At that time, Juan David Ortiz was a supervisor of the Intelligence Department of the Border Patrol and he was asked by the Laredo Police Department to look into one of the cases. Little did they know at that time that Juan David Ortiz was the killer they were looking for. But before we get into that, let me give you some background on Juan David Ortiz.
He was born in Brownsville, TX. He was the oldest child of four to a single mother. He was a good student in high school and he was part of the swim team and in cross country. He was a member of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. He was active in all aspects of the church and grew up with a strong faith. Ortiz was married to his high school sweetheart, and they had three children and were active members in the Assembly of God Church. It's a, it's a Pentecostal
church. A month after his 18th birthday, after he graduated from high school, he joined the US Navy. Ortiz was stationed as a Navy student at Fort Sam Houston here in San Antonio. As we know here in San Antonio, Fort Sam is a medical training facility for branches of the
service. It's where they train the majority of the medical personnel for the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps. And let's not forget, just throwing this out there, Jeffrey Dahmer was also trained here at Fort Sam Houston. So Ortiz was assigned to two commands in California. They were both Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton. He was transferred to the First Marine Division detachment in California's Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center. It's the Marine Air Ground Task
Force of the United States Marine Corps. It's made-up of the First Marine Division, which he was in the third Marine Aircraft Wing and 1st Marine Logistics Group. So the IMEF, which is the Marine Expeditionary Force, provides forces to the US Central Command and US Indo Pacific Command as directed. Ortiz, graduating from his school at Fort Sam and doing these trainings, became a combat
medic. He served tours in Afghanistan and Kuwait, and he was in the middle of many confrontations overseas where he had to save many lives. Ortiz was actually a hero who saved soldiers overseas. He was there until April 5th, 2005. He was then assigned to the Navy Element Defense Medical Readiness Training Institute Detachment at Fort Sam Houston on April 25th, 2005 and he stayed until April 1st, 2008. So to me this meant that he was actually training other soldiers
on how to become combat medics. He was awarded the Joint Meritorious award, the National Service Award, and the Rifle Marksmanship Medal. Given his military status, he probably had a top secret clearance. That's why when he was arrested, Navy investigators assisted the local law enforcement but were tight lipped regarding the specifics of their role in the Ortiz case.
When he got out of the Navy, he went directly into the Border Patrol. So Ortiz joined the agency in August of 2009, first in the town of Cotulla and then Laredo while he was a border agent. He earned a bachelor's degree from American Military University and a master's degree from Saint Mary's University in Texas, which is here in San Antonio, a former emergency medical technician for the US Navy who had done a tour of duty in Iraq said.
One of his buddies from the Marines told me that Doc that was Artesa's nickname, genuinely cared about the migrants crossing the border. He wanted to use his medical skills to help migrants who had been traveling for days in the desert. That's what this Marine buddy said. And a lot of people had testified that he would give water to a lot of these people that were migrating across the desert. He would give first aid. He was very helpful to a lot of
these people. So doing that, Ortiz had accumulated a vast variety of contacts and informants. So over the years of being on and around the border and working in some of the roughest streets in Laredo, he indeed became a respected agent. So by 2017, Ortiz had been promoted to the position of Intelligence supervisor. This was located at South Texas Border Intelligence Center in Laredo. So on September 3rd of 2018, police found a dead woman on the side of the road.
She had been shot in the back of the head execution style and was face down on the floor. So they started doing an investigation. They found several shell casings from a 40 Glock and they found tire patterns from a truck. On September 13th of 2018 there was a second female shot and left near the first crime scene and around her crime scene the same evidence was found, 40 caliber shell casings and they found tracks from a truck nearby.
Police began to wonder if they had a serial killer, and they knew that both of these cases were connected because of that evidence. Witnesses also described a white truck in the area. Now, Ortiz kept going to work during the day and going home to his wife and three kids, and then he would go out at night and kill prostitutes. On September 14th though, his wife and the three kids left the
house and he was alone at home. After he got off of work, he went home, changed, grabbed his gun and went hunting at the San Bernardo St. in Laredo. This is where the prostitutes and drug dealers and everything where all this happens, all this crime. He goes and picks up a woman named Erica Pena, and they go to his house and she gets the strangest feeling that something is not right. As a matter of fact, it gets to the point where she feels like
she's getting sick. She goes outside and she throws up on the sidewalk. He comes out realizing that he either needs to get her back inside or he needs to take her out of there because the neighbors. And so he asked what can I do and Erica says take me to the store. So they go to the store. He parks way behind the store, not even in the parking lot across the street from the store parking. He then takes out a gun. He points it at her. She starts fighting for her life.
He grabs her blouse. She takes it off and runs. She goes to the fueling station where she sees the Texas Highway Patrol officer. She's shirtless. She has a bra on, and she's crying and she's freaking out. And she tells the patrol officer, the Texas Highway Patrol officer, that a man named David pulled a gun on her and
she escaped from him. So this is a clip from the show 2020 with John Quinones of Erica Pena, who survived, and the Texas State trooper Francisco Hernandez, who she started talking to and this is from his body Cam. So listen to this. She begins to get panicked and she's trying to leave the vehicle and a struggle happens and he ends up ripping off her shirt. It was at this service station that investigators got their big
break. A state trooper was pumping gas here when a shirtless woman ran up to him saying that a man was trying to kill her. And it was all captured on those security cameras. So on that night I finished refueling, all of a sudden I see the lady coming from the side of the store kind of rapid walking towards my patrol. Car help me help me. You said where she had mentioned to me that she just had gotten assaulted by an individual and that this individual pointed a gun at her.
I know because it's a shock. I mean, you just escaped from a from a possible kidnap. The police take Erica to the police station to start getting her statement. At the police station she starts saying that this guy David had taken her to the house and she starts describing his house to AT. They ask her is there any way you can take us to his house? She says, I'm not exactly sure where it's at, but I'll give it a shot. So they start driving around and they're looking for the house.
And all of a sudden she sees it and says that's the house. So they run the house address and they find out that it belongs to Juan David Ortiz. Now they still don't know that he's a Border Patrol agent. They see the vomit on the sidewalk. They know it's his. They get a search warrant. They go into the house and they find all the guns that Juan David Hernandez or Juan David Ortiz after she escaped. He goes back to the house and starts getting all his guns ready for a gunfight with the
police. But when they don't show up, he decides he's going to head back to the streets of San Bernardo and Laredo to the street of San Bernardo where he had been picking up his victims. He then picks up another woman. This is the same night he picks up another woman and they start to drive. According to him, he was crying and he was saying that he was going to kill himself because he had done things and he would never be forgiven.
She told him that she started or he said that she said OK that she started to pray for him and told him that there was nothing that he had done that God could not forgive. She was trying to keep him from killing himself. He drove until they ended up a little bit out of Laredo, down 35 between San Antonio and Laredo. I mean, there's a whole bunch of other towns in between, but basically going towards San Antonio. So she, he tells her that he killed the two girls.
She still says that God can forgive you. You need to turn yourself in. You know, I'm praying for you. He tells her, get out of my truck. I don't want you in my truck anymore. Get out of my truck. Is this him because he's feeling a conscious no. Is this the demon because they don't want prayer possibly? Or is this just him trying to get her out of the truck now? This is what he tells her.
He says get out of my truck, start walking and you're going to either head right, which is going to take you back to Laredo, or you're going to head left, which is going to take you to San Antonio. He goes, I suggest you go left and go to San Antonio. So she gets out of the truck and she starts to walk away. Now, According to him, she stopped. She actually turns around and comes back to the truck. We will be right back after a word from our sponsors. Hey guys.
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And Matthew, I appreciate it. And I told him I would send him a shout out on this one and he was very excited about it. So Matthew and Paul, these are your shout outs. I appreciate you guys listening and I hope you enjoy the rest of the show. So let's get back to it guys and welcome back to The Demon Inside. She actually turns around and comes back to the truck. As she's walking back to the truck, he gets out of the truck and tells her that she needs the leave.
And he said she says no God will forgive you and started praying again. And he got upset because she wasn't leaving. So he pulled out his gun and he said that the monster came out. At this time the monster came out. So he shoots her in the face three times and his words were the monster came out.
Take a listen to this. This is from 20/20 with John Quinones. And then it was it was an interview that John Quinones was doing with Captain Federico Cadron, who was one of the investigators who was interviewing him. And this guy's from Webb County. He's from the Sheriff's Office. And then also a Texas Ranger who is who is EJ Salinas. Texas Rangers guys here in Texas are the badasses. These guys are freaking amazing. These guys deal with cases that you would not believe.
OK, so during this interview, I'm going to play it for you right now, and you're not going to believe what the Ranger says. Listen to this. Listen to Texas Ranger Salinas. And he says these words around this time that were quite. Just. Shocking this sort of monster came. Out. That's when the the monster came out. You could see the monster coming out. It. It kind of took. Me back because I don't know. If you ever see the devil coming out of. Somebody.
Kind of like that. Does he ever tell you? Why? He killed these women. His claim is that he was quote UN quote cleaning up the streets. The first one was happening. Correct, but after that. I I saw like. Like this too good. Like I'm like clean up the streets and then I hope it is going to. It's quite a contradiction. Correct. Absolutely. He's buying them drugs, he's paying these prostitutes himself.
Correct. And then he claims he's trying to clean it up. It was a poor attempt at justification for the horrible crimes he had committed. So I was like, you know, you're having two people. So I convinced myself of that that was his mindset, that these women, based on the choices that they had made, that they did not deserve to live and that he was in a position to be judge, jury and executioner. Did you hear Texas Ranger? Selena said. You could see the devil coming
out of him. Now. This is a respected Texas Ranger guys, and from the way he says it, the way he sounds, he makes it sound like this isn't his first time he's ever seen the devil come out of somebody. I would love to interview this guy and see what other cases he's done that he has seen the devil come out of these people. So after he shoots and kills his fourth victim, by this time 4 hours have gone by and they had found the house that Erica
remembered like I said. And they end up finding out who it belongs to. And now they end up finding out that he is an actual Border Patrol agent. Not only just a Border Patrol agent but a an intelligence Border Patrol agent. So they're looking for his truck. They send out a BOLO which is be on the lookout for his truck. They find it at a gas station and he's inside the store and they don't want to take him in the store because they're scared there might be a hostage
situation. When he comes out they're waiting for him and they start giving them commands and they tell him to raise his hands. He doesn't. He's freaking out and he decides he's going to run. So he ends up hiding in a parking garage and runs up to the 4th floor where he hides in a bed of a truck while he's in there. And this comes from the prosecutors because they released these Facebook posts that he was sending during that time that he was hiding in the
truck. Facebook posts that Ortiz allegedly wrote before surrendering and standoff with law enforcement. One reads, Doc Ortiz checks out, farewell. The other reads to my wife and kids, I love you. So after they find him, they pull him out. They start asking him if he is or who he is. And he's saying, you know who I am, you know who I am. And they're like, where is your weapon? He says, I don't have one.
They end up taking them and they take him to the jail or they take him to the police headquarters where the investigators start talking to him. And like I said, one is the Texas Ranger and the other is the sheriff from Webb County. So they start talking to him. And this guy, before they start talking to him, he's sitting in
the interrogation room. And if you guys want to see this, it's actually on YouTube. He starts talking to one of the agents or somebody out in the hallway while he's inside sitting down and he's laughing and he's saying, hey, who were the two guys that were chasing me? You need to tell him that they need to start working out because I lost them really quick. He goes, they're really out of shape. This guy was very cocky and he was very proud of what he had
done. So as investigators start talking to him, he first says it wasn't him. He didn't know them, he didn't know the victims, and he didn't know what happened. One of the officers that's interrogating him says we have proof that you did this. We have your gun, we have the shell casings, we have your tire tracks. We're going to find DNA, We're going to have all this information about you. So tell us that we have the wrong guy. And he doesn't say anything. So then they ask him, why did he
do it? I just want to understand. We know you did it. We just want to understand why. And one of the investigators says possibly, maybe you blacked out and you don't remember. So our teeth runs with it. And this is what a lot of killers do. They want an excuse so they don't have to take blame. He runs with the whole I blacked out, I don't remember. OK, now remember this. He doesn't remember because he
had blacked out. But when he was talking and he was talking about the victims, he was very proud of what he had done, very proud of what he had done. He sounded like with conviction of I did this, I took her, I killed her. He talks about the first victim that she had taken drugs in his truck and he she passed out and he got annoyed and he didn't know what to do and he ended up killing her. The second victim, he says that she started feeling like something wasn't right.
They started talking about the first victim. She says she got a strange feeling and he shot her and killed her. The third victim was Erica Pena who escaped, and Erica says that she also felt something wasn't right with this guy. Automatically. She knew for whatever reason that he was the killer of the two girls. Then he starts to say this. He talks about the monster that comes out of him and he talks about that he was trying to clean the streets of Laredo.
This guy was a vigilante who's killing prostitutes to clean the streets. He said that no one else was doing it. And for me, the demon that was either possessing them or influencing them was probably telling them, hey, all these people that you guys arrested are getting out and nobody is doing anything about it. This is your chance to do something, to be judge, jury and executioner and actually make a difference. So I want to give you a little insight to what I think was in
his mind at the time. Because to kill these women, he was using his service weapon. And to me, that means that he was doing something just, he was doing something right because as a law enforcement agent, he should have known that they would trace this 40 caliber weapon back to him or back to any law enforcement officer. So when the police are almost finished interviewing him, they ask him what most police love to ask. Is there anything else you want
to tell us? Well, he says there's one that you have not found. That was his fifth victim, 4th killed. He said he again headed after the third. He went back to San Bernardo St. to pick up another victim. He picked up a woman who is a transgender woman and he put her body behind a pile of asphalt that was off to the side of the road where they had been doing construction. This was again in a span of four hours where he killed the last two victims.
In total, Juan David Ortiz killed four women and victimized 5. If not for Erica Pena escaping there may never they may never have caught him because he was actually doing investigations into his own murders and was sabotaging or at least trying to sabotage the investigation. He even says that when they asked him about some of the people or some of the victims, he said he looked it up on the computer and didn't find anything.
So my question is this, if a demon is inside a person or influencing a person, can people sense that they are there? Because two of these women sense that something wasn't right. Could it have been there? Could it have been their guardian angels or their intuition? Or could they have felt the presence of evil? Could they have felt the presence of a demon? Now for me, guys, an evil person doesn't mean that they're possessed. An evil person is just an evil
person. Sometimes when an evil person is just evil, these demons like to watch, they like to hang around, they like to see the destruction that people do to other people. Could she the the two victims? Could they have sensed this and knew that something wasn't right? Also, it was also in two weeks that he created all this chaos. He did a lifetime of good to end up two weeks of killing prostitutes. Could that have been the demon?
Yes. So for me, guys, if I had to put a name to this demon, I would say it was pride because he was very proud of his work that he was doing and he wanted to do it faster because he knew he was going to get caught. He wanted to make a difference and he was very, very proud of it. He was a spree serial killer because he knew that his time was running out and he had to hurry up and that's why he killed so many. In that one day he could have killed 3.
But thank God that Erica Pena escaped and was able to testify against him because if not for her, maybe he would still be out there killing. Thanks for listening guys. Talk to you all. Next week, don't forget to subscribe to the Demon Inside podcast on any podcast platform. A new episode of the Demon Inside will be released every week. Let us know what you think of the episode on all our social media platforms.
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