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The Defender's Advantage Podcast

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Learn about the latest threat and cybersecurity trends on The Defender’s Advantage Podcast! Hear from experts in the field as Host Luke McNamara, from Google Threat Intelligence Group, interviews analysts, researchers and other guests on the frontlines of the latest attacks. Episodes dive deep into various topics, including nation-state activity, cybercrime, malware and tradecraft, incident response, defensive guidance, and more. Don't forget to subscribe!

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Episodes

Google's Disruption Mission

Host Luke McNamara is joined by Charley Snyder, Head of Disruption Operations at Google Threat Intelligence Group, to delve into how Google is crafting a more coordinate approach to disrupting adversary cyber operations. Charley describes how this disruption focus is not hacking back, how it builds on existing work across Google security teams, and some of the recent wins such as the IPIDEA and GRIDTIDE takedowns.

Apr 27, 202629 min

Takeaways from the 2026 M-Trends Report

Host Luke McNamara is joined by Chris Linklater, Practice Leader at Mandiant, to discuss the 2026 edition of Mandiant's M-Trends Report. Chris dives into the latest trends observed in breached throughout 2025 and into this year, noting some of the key aspects organizations should focus on in applying these insights into today's threat landscape. https://cloud.google.com/security/resources/m-trends

Apr 15, 202628 min

Using GTI to Hunt Adversaries on the Dark Web

In this episode of the Defenders Advantage Podcast, host Luke McNamara sits down with Google Threat Intelligence experts Jose Nazario and Brandon Wood. They dive into the rollout of new dark web and underground monitoring capabilities, explaining how AI is fundamentally changing the way defenders track adversaries. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/bringing-dark-web-intelligence-into-the-ai-era\

Mar 23, 202630 min

How Android Combats Mobile Scams

Host Luke McNamara is joined by Eugene Liderman, Senior Director in Android's Security and Privacy Group, to discuss the evolving world of mobile-targeting scams. Eugene details some of the unique aspects to mobile scams, regional variations in tactics by scammers, and the steps Android has taken to combat this problem.

Jan 16, 202632 min

UNC5221 and the BRICKSTORM Campaign

Sarah Yoder (Manager, Mandiant Consulting) and Ashley Pearson (Senior Analyst, Advanced Practices on Google Threat Intelligence Group) join host Luke McNamara to discuss UNC5221 and their operations involving BRICKSTORM backdoor. This highly sophisticated, suspected China-nexus cyber-espionage threat group is known for aggressively targeting internet-facing network appliances (like VPNs and firewalls) to establish long-term, stealthy access for espionage. Read our blog post for more: https://clo...

Oct 22, 202526 min

How vSphere Became a Target for Adversaries

Stuart Carrera (Senior Consultant, Mandiant Consulting) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss how threat actors are increasingly targeting the VMware vSphere estate, and leveraging in this environment to conduct extortion and data theft. Stuart details why this has become an attractive target, and ways organizations can better engineer detections to respond to this activity. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/defending-vsphere-from-unc3944 https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics...

Sep 15, 202539 min

AI Tools and Sentiment Within the Underground Cyber Crime Community

Michelle Cantos (Senior Analyst, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss some of the recent trends in underground marketplaces around the selling of illicit AI tools and services. Michelle discusses GTIG's research into this space, how threat actors are seeking to leverage these models, use cases being discussed, and more.

Aug 18, 202526 min

Protecting the Core: Securing Protection Relays in Modern Substations

Host Luke McNamara is joined by members of Mandiant Consulting's Operational Technology team (Chris Sistrunk, Seemant Bisht, and Anthony Candarini) to discuss their latest blog on securing assets in the energy grid. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/securing-protection-relays-modern-substations

Jul 28, 202543 min

The Rise of ClickFix

Dima Lenz (Security Engineer, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss how threat actors have been using ClickFix to socially engineer users. Dima recounts the growth of this technique in 2024, some of the campaigns and actors that have leveraged it, and where it may be headed next.

Jul 15, 202524 min

Vishing in the Wild

Nick Guttilla and Emily Astranova, from Mandiant Consulting's Offensive Security team, join host Luke McNamara for an episode on voice-based phishing, or "vishing." Nick and Emily cover their respective blogs and experiences, diving into how they employ vishing techniques to social engineer organizations--both organically and using AI-powered voice cloning to mimic specific employees--during red team engagements. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/technical-analysis-vishing...

Jun 04, 202538 min

Responding to a DPRK ITW Incident

JP Glab (Mandiant Consulting) joins host Luke to discuss responding to activity from North Korean IT workers. He walks through what initially triggered the investigation at this organization, how it progressed in parallel with an HR investigation, and ultimately what was discovered. For more on the DPRK IT workers and trends in incident response, check out Mandiant's 2025 M-Trends report. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/m-trends-2025

May 19, 202517 min

UNC5221 and The Targeting of Ivanti Connect Secure VPNs

Matt Lin (Senior Incident Response Consultant, Mandiant) and Daniel Spicer (Chief Security Officer, Ivanti) dive into the research and response of UNC5221's campaigns against Ivanti. They cover how this threat actor has evolved from earlier campaigns, the continued focus of edge infrastructure by APT actors, and the shared responsibility of security in mitigating threats like this. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/china-nexus-exploiting-critical-ivanti-vulnerability https...

May 05, 202528 min

Windows Remote Desktop Protocol: Remote to Rogue

Host Luke McNamara is joined by GTIG Senior Security Researcher Rohit Nambiar to discuss Rohit's recent blog on some interesting usage of RDP by UNC5837. Rohit covers the discovery of the campaign, and the novel functionalities they were using to likely support cyber espionage goals. He delves into these findings and the usage of RemoteApps and victim file mapping via RDP, and closes with some of the mysteries that remain about this activity. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intellige...

Apr 14, 202534 min

Cybersecurity Conversations with the C-Suite and Board

Imran Ahmad (Senior Partner, Canadian Head of Technology and Canadian Co-Head of Cybersecurity and Data Privacy at Norton Rose Fulbright) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss how executives are thinking about cyber risk in a changing and evolving landscape. He touches on the importance of training before a breach, how ransomware has changed security conversations with boards, and the promise and risk of emerging technologies like AI play for enterprises.

Mar 10, 202536 min

What to Watch For in 2025

Kelli Vanderlee, Kate Morgan, and Jamie Collier join host Luke McNamara to discuss trends that are top of mind for them in tracking emergent threats this year, from nation state intrusions to financially motivated ransomware campaigns. https://cloud.google.com/security/resources/cybersecurity-forecast https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/cybercrime-multifaceted-national-security-threat

Feb 28, 202545 min

Signals of Trouble

Dan Black (Principal Analyst, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss the research into Russia-aligned threat actors seeking to compromise Signal Messenger. Dan lays out how this latest evolution of Russia's usage of cyber in Ukraine compares to previous phases of the conflict, how this activity is likely supporting battlefield operations, and how users of secure messaging applications can mitigate some of the risks associated with activity like this. https://cloud....

Feb 19, 202526 min

Agentic AI in Cybersecurity

Steph Hay (Senior Director for Gemini Product and UX, Google Cloud Security) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss agentic AI and its implications for security disciplines. Steph walks through how generative AI is already impacting the finding of threats, reduction of toil, and the scaling up of workforce talent, before discussing how agents will increasingly play a role in operationalizing security. Steph details how this automation of processes, with humans in the loop, can increase the capabili...

Feb 05, 202527 min

The Art of Remediation in Incident Response

Jibran Ilyas (Consulting Leader, Mandiant Consulting) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss remediation as part of incident response. Jibran covers various scenarios (espionage and ransomware) and how they may differ in approaching remediation, how types of architecture could shape remediation efforts, non-technical components of the remediation phase, and more.

Dec 02, 202441 min

How to Run an Effective Tabletop Exercise

Mandiant Senior Consultant Alishia Hui joins host Luke McNamara to discuss all things tabletop exercise related. Alishia walks through the elements of a tabletop exercise, important preparatory steps, the success factors for a good exercise, and how organizations can implement lessons learned. https://cloud.google.com/transform/the-empty-chair-guess-whos-missing-from-your-cybersecurity-tabletop-exercise https://www.mandiant.com/sites/default/files/2021-09/ds-tabletop-exercise-000005-2.pdf...

Oct 18, 202429 min

Using LLMs to Analyze Windows Binaries

Vicente Diaz, Threat Intelligence Strategist at VirusTotal, joins host Luke McNamara to discuss his research into using LLMs to analyze malware. Vicente covers how he used Gemini to analyze various windows binaries, the use cases this could help address for security operations, technical challenges with de-obfuscation, and more. For more on this topic: https://blog.virustotal.com/2023/04/introducing-virustotal-code-insight.html https://blog.virustotal.com/2024/04/analyzing-malware-in-binaries-an...

Oct 04, 202437 min

How Threat Actors Bypass Multi-Factor Authentication

Josh Fleischer, Principal Security Analyst with Mandiant's Managed Defense organization sits down with host Luke McNamara to discuss trends in MFA bypass and how threat actors are conducting adversary in the middle (AiTM) attacks to gain access to targeted organizations. Josh walks through a case study of MFA bypass, how token theft occurs, the increasing amount of AiTM activity with more features being added to phishing kits, and more.

Sep 26, 202427 min

TAG's Work Tracking Commercial Surveillance Vendors

Host Luke McNamara is joined by Clement Lecigne, security researcher at Google's Threat Analysis Group (TAG) to discuss his work tracking commercial surveillance vendors (CSVs). Clement dives into the history and evolution of the CSV industry, how these entities carry out operations against platforms like mobile, and the nexus of this problem into the increasing rise of zero-day exploitation. For more on TAG's work on CSVs: https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/state-backed-attackers-and-com...

Sep 04, 202424 min

What Iranian Threat Actors Have Been Up To This Year

Mandiant APT Researcher Ofir Rozmann joins host Luke McNamara to discuss some notable Iranian cyber espionage actors and what they have been up to in 2024. Ofir covers campaigns from suspected IRGC-nexus actors such as APT42 and APT35-related clusters, as well as activity from TEMP.Zagros. For more on this topic, please see: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/tool-of-first-resort-israel-hamas-war-in-cyber/ https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/untangling-iran-apt42...

Jul 25, 202436 min

Mandiant's Approach to Securely Using AI Solutions

Mandiant Consultants Trisha Alexander, Muhammed Muneer, and Pat McCoy join host Luke McNamara to discuss Mandiant's recently launched services for securing AI. They discuss how organizations can proactively approach securing the implementation of AI workloads, red-team and test these security controls protecting generative AI models in production, and then also employ AI within the security organization itself. For more, please see: https://cloud.google.com/security/solutions/mandiant-ai-consult...

Jun 27, 202432 min

Lessons Learned from Responding to Cloud Compromises

Mandiant consultants Will Silverstone (Senior Consultant) and Omar ElAhdan (Principal Consultant) discuss their research into cloud compromise trends over 2023. They discuss living off the land techniques in the cloud, the concept of the extended cloud attack surface, how organizations can better secure their identities, third party cloud compromise trends, and more. Will and Omar's talk at Google Next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg13kGsN9ok&t=2s

Jun 03, 202430 min

The ORB Networks

Michael Raggi (Principal Analyst, Mandiant Intelligence) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss Mandiant's research into China-nexus threat actors using proxy networks known as “ORBs” (operational relay box networks). Michael discusses the anatomy and framework Mandiant developed to map out these proxy networks, how ORB networks like SPACEHOP are leveraged by China-nexus APTs, and what this all means for defenders. For more, check out: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/china-...

May 22, 202430 min

Investigations Into Zero-Day Exploitation of the Ivanti Connect Secure Appliances

Mandiant Principal Analysts John Wolfram and Tyler McLellan join host Luke McNamara to discuss their research in the "Cutting Edge" blog series, a series of investigations into zero-day exploitation of Ivanti appliances. John and Tyler discuss the process of analyzing the initial exploitation, and the attribution challenges that emerged following the disclosure and widespread exploitation by a range of threat actors. They also discuss the role a suspected Volt Typhoon cluster played into the fol...

May 16, 202428 min

M-Trends 2024 with Mandiant Consulting Vice President Jurgen Kutscher

Jurgen Kutscher, Mandiant Vice President for Consulting, joins host Luke McNamara to discuss the findings of the M-Trends 2024 report. Jurgen shares his perspective on the "By the Numbers" data, the theme of evasion of detection in this year's report, and how Mandiant consultants have been leveraging AI in purple and red teaming operations. For more on the M-Trends 2024 report: http://cloud.google.com/security/m-trends

Apr 29, 202426 min

Assessing the State of Multifaceted Extortion Operations

Kimberly Goody, Head of Mandiant's Cyber Crime Analysis team and Jeremy Kennelly, Lead Analyst of the same team join host Luke McNamara to breakdown the current state of ransomware and data theft extortion. Kimberly and Jeremy describe how 2023 differed from the activity they witnessed the year prior, and how changes in the makeup of various groups have played out in the threat landscape, why certain sectors see more targeting, and more.

Apr 11, 202441 min

Hunting for "Living off the Land" Activity

Host Luke McNamara is joined by Mandiant consultants Shanmukhanand Naikwade and Dan Nutting to discuss hunting for threat actors utilizing "living off the land" (LotL) techniques. They discuss how LotL techniques differ from traditional malware based attacks, ways to differentiate between normal and malicious use of utilities, Volt Typhoon, and more.

Mar 29, 202443 min
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