The meat and potatoes of why we talk? Okay, how do you feel about the current product of what we like to watch on Mondays Fridays? And now I like that they do pay per views on Saturdays. Now that's just love it. Well, it's that for naxt ther motherfuckers want to go against the grain and shit, But no, you gotta put them on Sundays because w W E takeover Saturday. That used to be theirs. The chapons is
Saturday. Yeah, everything, man, that's two days. Okay. As far as what with the product, the product just overall overall, right now before we get into are we talking? All of them are just to eat. I'm know for a fact, really only watched the Eat. I don't watch nothing else, but I'm trying to watch it. If if I had to give it a grade, I give it probably a B somewhere between the
B minus and the beat. And that's because the product itself, no matter how trash we take it, these motherfuckers is steady making money even though the ratings are down. Their sales is they they this man's a genius want to come to marketing. I don't think their sales are down for the typical reasons they ratings are down. Well, I don't think their ratings are down. Yeah, I don't think the ratings are down for typical reason. I just
think we consume it differently. I just want to say that I think ratings are down because TV is now more on demand type, or you watch like, for example, you didn't watch raw to today, right, No, that group, so you think about his bonesses. It's like, what if eight of us in the group. So if like one out of every eight people don't watch it when it's live, we watch it later. Of course your raging's gonna go down. You're losing numbers because they're not watching it when
you guys are keeping tab some people dr right okay? Or we watch it, yeah, we watch it on I like w W because every time I get tired of Roman be a champion, they do something else to make you be like because anybody else, I really feel like after three years, because this man has been the three wrestleman, he is defending the universal title.
Right, so you think about it, anybody, everybody else, if this had been Triple H, if this had been Stone Cold, if this had been anybody else to rock everybody like dude when is this motherucker gonna lose this goddamn built But Roman, and and and and to the genius of Paul Hayman's really Paul Hayman more than anything. They keep structuring things as to where you kind of want to see Roman win it, like with the whole Cody thing.
Cody comes in the whole finish the story and all this other stuff just to belt my dad never won. It's a very compelling story built my father never won. I'm about to make my family full circle. I'm gonna do the one thing that my brother couldn't do. I'm gonna be in justice to the Road's name. I'm getting the belt. I'm a hole of high rest of making. But then they bring up the fact that Roman is on the
cusp of breaking a thousand days a chance. He passed it, he's about to pass up if he beats Cody, He's gonna pass up one record and put him closer the whole Cogun's record. And when you know we want that races out the equation and when you look at that, it's something that's impossible to do because when Hulk Hogan was champion, Hasen wasn't the own TV everywoy. Yeah, wrestling was different. The belt wasn't defended every once a month
or whatever. You only got the Big four pay per views. So at best, Hulk Hogan was defending that belt maybe five six times a year, and two of those were on like Saturday and that main events that happened once every six months, in which you knew he was. We got a champion that we see him defend his belt. Well before he got the new contract,
we saw him defend his belt once every fucking pay per view. I feel like Roman is he's encapsulating that that Golden era wrestling win my champion was important because we don't see you every week, Like I don't know if like when you watch wrestling, if you pay attention, like even if we're watching Raw and Roman ain't been on TV for three weeks. When Roman is coming
back to SmackDown, there's a promo. They make him feel special, So you gotta get your take whether they like the more everybody else because they want to hear what Rome. I like that that they make it feel special when he does show up, so I meet him still being a champion. I don't really mind it because he's not on TV every fucking week when we see Roman is usually gonna be something big. Like I knew after wrestle Man, I'm like, well, Roman and wrestling back like I don't know who the
fuck they're gonna get the main event this shit. That's when I was like, Okay, well we're gonna do a six man. I thought that six man would have been Cody and them versus the Bloodline, but then they brought Riddle back for no fucking reason. Too well, it made sense because anybody as they are, they truly sick of Rom And if they say yes, then ask them why are you sick? But they're not sick of the bloodline story. The people that I've talked, they're not sick of them being champ
because you would have to follow that up. Well, then who should have the belt other the Roman? Because anybody else I'm gonna they don't have an answer. I said this before and I say it again. If Cody had won that belt, what's next right down to twilet because Cody would not have been able to feel Roman shop whoever the throne's Roman has to be able to feel those shots. And that's why we said when you're ready to pull gunther up to the main event, to the that's the only persons. It has
to go to somebody who is just as dominant. I feel like, when when Roman does lose this belt, not my person will paying. I could be wrong reading this wrong. I feel like it's not gonna be special anymore. It's gonna be like this title won't be special because we're gonna go back to regularly schedule programming with your champion is going to be on SmackDown every way, So it's not gonna be special no more. No, No, this is the one us in lifetime thing. You're supposed to enjoy it now because
it's not gonna happen ever again. That's why A thousand days it's so fucking major, because that's unheard of, and they be a thousand days, it's gonna be somewhere around fifteen hundred because he's going to break Hopens record, and that probably what it is. Because to be honest, I really don't see Roman losing the belt. No, when Roman loses the belt, there's gonna
be some random screw job ish situation. He gonna lose it on a cash It won't I don't even gonna be a cash He's not gonna ain't nobody from the penning Roman in the middle of the ring one two three. I think that they're gonna get that. I think has to happen. Whoever beats Roman has to be them clean in the middle of the ring. But it has to be the right person. Has to be somebody that can carry those titles and do what Romans. The Roman is a draw. It's not that Romans
the best wrestler. No, it's not that that Romans the best on the mic. It's not that Paul Haman he's better. He's a draw, he's it won, He's he's something like Andre to Giant. People didn't come because yeah, because Andre really didn't even get nowhere near a belt for years, and even when he did, it was only the further not a different storyline. Now, the mistake that they did make, and I think I've said this in the roup before, was giving Roman both belts. But what happened
was and I lastly got hurt. Yep. And because Lastly was hurt, they forced them to bounce the built back to Brock. And when Brock had to build, well, we know they're going to WrestleMania to fight each other, and we knew that before, so like, well, if both of them are gonna have built, we gotta make it still special. Title.
It's got to be special. Give them both belts. But you're like, we can't have you lose it. No, I mean the closest thing he came to a loss, well, which was a loss, but he didn't get pinned with when Seth bee him at the rump, and that was on DQ because he choked them out. He still sure. So I was explaining this to my homeboy because my homeboy is one of those, because it was like, he feels like he's sick of ROUM. I was like, okay, so let's look at the landscape. You're the fan that they want.
You're the person that ww WE wanted to create as the fan. That's all it is. If you are a real fan, stories will bother you. I don't know what this nigga be first, but I like this is how I broke it down to him, Like, so you're sick of seeing Roman with this belt? Cool? Insert anybody you take this belt off for Roman.
Roman is still the top guy. So now instead of your champion not being here, your challenger won't be here every fucking week which is still going to incite you as a fan because you're like, with wise, Roman not on TV. So even if we put the belt on Cody and his next fight is Roman and the way they skipping pay per views and shit like that. So now Roman ain't on TV for twelve weeks, but you gotta go out here in field twelve weeks of TV time because Roman only gonna give you
one to maybe three shots. That's theory. I'm like, whoever comes and takes this belt off Roman has to be ready because they will not have Roman to lean on or to do promos about for the next month, maybe two months after they beat Roman. Whatever Roman gets beat, he's going to take a other vacations. Right this ship is gonna be like four or five months.
I actually I'm surprised he's wrestling and Night of Champions in Sardi because I didn't expect to see Roman until somewhere around Summerson l I, knowing that Sardi's a big market, I knew he would do Sary. He not. He wasn't going to Puerto Rico. I don't know. I ain't doing no no. I'm glad he didn't go to port He was going to because Puerto Rico had enough that was cracking. There was enough Puerto Ricans on the car,
and we was good. I'm glad y'all brought Puerto Rico. Now, this is my problem with the with the w W. I praise him on even the same thing I was thinking, but they are so captivated in storylines they missed moments. Selina Vega should have won in Portoca. Yeah we did because I should have won, because I made talk about it. We Ripley beat her the next night on Raw and we would have been cool. All of us would have been okay with that. She could have won it as a
school girl in Puerto ric We wouldn't have care take that moment winning. She should have won and Bad Bunny and only because here's the reason why it was even before we knew the match was cracking, I felt like it should have closed because Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world period the world. He he but climpses beyond that's hard to do. That's hard to do it. He's big, and then he's a wrestling fan on top of that,
and then he's a wrestler. Yeahs. Being on top of that, him and priests are actual boys, so you knew Priest was gonna take care of him in this match. So you got two Puerto Ricans fighting in Puerto Rico and Cody because you think because Brock said he doesn't want it is either Brock has to be first or he has to be last. I was been okay with him being first, but because of the cool Cody Brock story, I
could see the problem. You know, it was funny, like the cool like usually when you have a hot match, you kind of stick some shit in the middle of that, and then the main event to cool the crowd off. The Maine was cool. The main event was the fucking core Down match. It was. It was Triple A Jerichode all over again. Man like y'all left holding the rock go out of that. But to Triple ags credit, he was lying, I don't want to go out. Nobody knew
that that was gonna happen. Triple knew knew because that was with the stair down at WrestleMania. It was ten times bigger in Chicago when they did it the first time. This is true when they challenge, they knew that Brighton was on the wall for that. They actually need to stop putting champions first, it'll be last. It doesn't have to close with the best triple. Ag was lying, no, but you don't have to. You don't have to take her to that clothes resume, right, Like both titles were defended
before Shine the Taker went out there and did their match. I feel like that's just investment man, old schools mindset, Like yeah, like whether you place, if you're the champion, you you regardless of what the match is. As long as you are the champion of my company, you're going out there last. Now, I get it when it comes to cases like Roman, because let's face it, Roman has been at nine Wrestlemanians. It has
may have been at seven of them. Yep, the last seven. Well no, not the last seven because the COVID won the COVID Yep, he was supposed to may have been it, but he decided that's a pandemic. I'm not coming. I got Lukemia I gotta kill so that I don't. I don't think he would have made have been at that one. Twenty twenty nine, twenty Drew because Drew was wrestling bro Roman was wrestling Goldberg. That wasn't closing the fucking show how many times have you the Royal Rumba winner fuck
around and um Roman wrestling Goldberg was not gonna close the show. It's in my heart of hearts. I don't think that if your heart of heart, but in business mind, it's gold Bird. No, it's Roman. Roman wasn't he was just It's been stated if Roman, if Vincement Man could have went into a laboratory and created the perfect That's why he was pushing Roman so hard early. He was shoving Roman down our throats. Roman barely hit NXC. When it comes to the WWE, it's not what you see, it's
what you don't see. It's what you don't pay attention to. So when Roman was in the shield, Roman always stood in the middle. Even though he did He's the one that didn't talk. He was always in the center. He was always the one that they zoomed in on the reaction on their faces when when when uh they faced evolution, majority of evolutions fight was at Roman. It wasn't a Dean or Seth. It was all at Roman.
Everything that they did kept Roman in your mind, you know, just a little subtle to things because those other things that stick in your mind, going back and like watching see him like see him Punk did an interview and I guess they asked him about the creation of the ship. When he said who he wanted in the group, that nigga wasn't even there. So like when they was like, no, we're gonna put him in, I'm like, that's the nigga that's to start. Even like like when they broke up him,
like Roman gonna be big, it's the other two niggas. I don't know what they're gonna do. Everybody was like, well, Seth because he just the flip flop nigga. He's gonna get lost in the shuffle and Dean and Roman would be the two big stars. I know what it is. I ain't gonna say Dean like Dean flop and wwe flop Like it is what it is. Like the proof is in the point this title run was ship.
It was I mean bad booking or whatever you want to call it, but I call him more bad booking than the fact that Dean hadn't found the strot in the WW He needed some time to really develop who he is. That happens a lot of people get thrown in the fire because they think you were big. You gotta a good look or whatever. I'm gonna just throw you right into the ship and you find out these people really don't know who
they are. If he had been John Moxley, then we would have known that he's Yeah, he's not the main event because I'm like, he went to a W and the shitty doing over there. I'm like, that's not that. The shit you're doing here that don't main event wrestle maining, but not everybody is meant to be the main event. Him. What he's doing in a w reminds me of what Christian did when he went to Impact,
because Vince was never gonna give Christian the look. Bro, if John Moxley came back to the w W, he's only gonna get a push because niggas missed him. Whoa talent? Wise, no truth be told. Look the reason Cody, it's literally Cody. But when but when I said that, I'm hating we didn't telling you for the because I didn't care about Cody. Because man, when I wrote it, n when Cody showed up at WrestleMania,
and we were there. When Cody showed up at WrestleMania, he didn't get a second look for me, I was liker bro he's so mad card Man dress, I just see people. I just hated that everybody knew that it was gonna be him before them, So it ruined the moment in my opinion, because we knew Royal Road of hands down. Sammy should have been in that match. Shamy should have won. He should have then then turned on fucking Roman later on. I think if Sammy wins the Royal Roma that
has more dynamic to the story. Sammy should have been the one to the throne Roman Rains. The reason being is because a long storyline, this should have been building up for a year that Sammy had to throw Roman Rains. Guess what that should have actually wrote that ship for a couple of months, Roman get hit wrestling. Roman could have came back and beat Sammy and took
the bells back. Sammy having the bell would have left the door wide open for so many people to have an opportunity to beat Champ while Roman is taking the break. So even if you want to say Roman said, I mean Sammy too, you could have did it down the road, but you could have definitely gave a lot of people more of opportunity than now because Sammy is
a walking storyline. You can work with a walk with Sammy ain't even gotta even though he can wrestle, Sammy's don't even have to be able to wrestle. It's all about the storyline, your storyline has Brock has never been a great wrestler, been athletic, he has spots, but he's never been a
great wrestler. But what is he is? He's a walking storyline. Every time you watched Brock and almost you turn around and watch, how does this nigga keep getting significant spots on the car because he's working with great people that are making him look good. Think about it. Everybody everybody said Puerto Rico to be him, right, Puerto Rico with his best match ever, and look who he worked. We always said, moves me and seth. He's
got his choke slam. He's starting to build a move set Yeah, he's you mean the match him and versus seven, Him versus Curves and and seven had to do a superer, had to do a super curse. It's gonna be on the game next year now. Rocket Steff probably his two best matches because him and Bobby worked more than like him and Bobby would have been good, but because of his limited moves set with Bobby, who's just more powerful, just as well, it didn't work. Well, it was good,
it was a c at the best. Then that just repeated it with understand it. But black is a little bit different. What you gotta realize is what developmental does, and everybody a little bit different. You go, you go to developmental to learn all of these, uh, how to wrestle and how to be developmental. That's not true. You go to developmental to learn how to take bumps, how to go over the top rope, how to cut a promo without stuttering. Yeah, but it doesn't ever find who you
are. Everybody we've seen come through the curtain and debut and the w W, he had to find themselves. Austin didn't know who the fuck he was when he came to He knew who studied Steve, how to be stunned Steve Auston, but he didn't know how to be stone cold Steve Auston, Well the rock when he came through curly here and all that shit, he had to find himself. Uh, John Cena, Tights and all this shit. I'm naming greats, I'm naming people that are at the top of the food
chat. John Sena didn't know who the fuck he was, and he was a blue blood before he became the understood he was French for a game, right. He was like, even though we don't watch it a lot, well, I know, I don't watch it as much as I used to watch it like we used to, but I feel like that's the importance of what NXT does. So yea, even though like the actual developmental process,
like behind the current performance center doesn't help you find yourself. I feel like when they put you in NXT and you get this TV time, that is your but that's the problem. You can do it. Here's the thing that doesn't even you can't even use that because Roman came through NXT. No, he didn't know who the fc W. But but he was a different person technically was Yeah, so he was a different pay. He didn't know who
the fuck he was. Randy Orton when he was at that cold class outside of brock Lestener, who didn't have to do anything because Paul Hayman was his mouthpiece that whole class, and we talk about those of the ghost. Randy Orton him, all of them had to find Batista was the deacon when he came was really trash. When they got here, you know, they were
trash. The problem that that was initially the problem with NXT after two point zero, with two point er hit, when Vince would call people up, he would recreate them when they have doesn't watch NXT, right, And that's and what does that say about your business? Though? But I also feel like there are there are sections of wrestling fans, like you have some people, like when NXT was only on the app, you have some people that
only watch wrestling that comes on TV. There wasn't a lot of guys who was like, well, i watched wrestling on Monday, and then I'll go watch NXT on Wednesday, Tuesday whenever it drops on the app, and then I watched SmackDown. There's a lot of people that's only watching what's on TV. So when you see Adam Cole come up to the man Roster, if you're not familiar with NXT and you didn't know him from like Ring Honor, he's a completely new person. Tea. But that's the problem with that.
The car cross that that's the problem, created that problem. But I'm because when the niggas got stuck in Saudi and they had to call it. They call it NXT Niggas up to do SmackDown. That was one of the best smackdowns you've ever seen. That was some matchups that were crazy and a lot
of people that saw those matchups then went and started watching. You have to mix them up at some point sometime to bring One of the best things they did was that Triple Threat Survivor series because and not only did they do it, they let Keith Lee completely clown niggas. Was like, actually, I think he should have won, but but niggas like, who is dude, Let's go back and watch. Or when they let all them the n XT niggas in the rumble again, Keith Lee going up against Brockles. That's a
big money niggas. Go back and you have to you have to mix it up. You have to you have to bring you know what, as a matter of fact, Winner Man's Winner should challenge for the n XT title. Make it a big thing, make it a big brand. Bring the NXT Champion is now main of any wrestle mating. See like what Charlotte did that ship. I thought that was dope. You gave Like had there not been
a pandemic and we really would have sold out Ram. That's the look for real, because you are now wrestling not only a main roster talent, but you wrestling a goat like this Charlotte, she didn't did it all right now? And for her to reach back and get you this look, that's tight, But you don't do that whatever right I want that you actually, as a matter of fact, Theory should have cashed in. I like the and
n X see true. But but but I also give Theory credit for cashing in with the US title because that literally opened the door with the money in the bank. But it don't matter what Bill so I might because like, think about it, you got a Roman who's running ramping for three years, and I got this money in the bank. Am I gonna waste this opportunity on a nigga who look, bro, I can't beat you dog I've got which is exactly what he said. He was like Romans at the top of
his game. There's no touch. I can't be here for just readomly do that. I feel like that's one of those things that if you're not a real wrestler for you're not paying attention to that you is at home, like, Nigga, this is a guaranteed world title show, why would you waste it on the US title? But the wrestling fan is like, oh, he opened it the forbidden door, right, No champion is fucking safe with this briefcase. Nigga, you're gonna get Homie and all of a sudden,
you cashing in the tag him. I think he should have went the for Brin breaker. He should have went. He should have went for cash then on Brin Breaker, and then that would have also opened another door. Like now niggas is recognized too as being part of WWA, and now you could just randomly you haven't opened because that's why used to love about seeing that his
open challenge, because NXT niggas were showing up. Kevin Owen showed up with the fucking NXT belt around his weight, still trying to take your US title. Had he had he won, But y'all give too much credit to Kevin, even though that was a cracking NASS match. I'm I'm I've always been a chaos fancying. Even though that was a cracking NASS match that was y'all gave too much real Nigga was saying, Sammy definitely because one brand Hart brought
Sammy out. Yeah, but I'm just saying you got one. He still has this point. Top tier niggas brought out Sammy. Sammy comes out, just locates his shoulder at the very beginning of the match. You're right, and this nigga was doing his interests blew and then puts on a match of a lifetime lost. But Sammy is always put on good matches because I went back and got bored one day and watched like the beginning of in the next and him and Cizarro, which giving us WrestleMania matches on regular TV. So
Sammy's always been cold. And then I went back and watched Wrestling with Andy when they did this story about Dog and his backstory with El Generico and how he killed the wrestler. He killed the gimmick by saying Dog works with El Chopper on them. Now he got this wildest backstory while he stopped being El Generica. It's funny as hell. But Sammy's always been good to me. He just let's just having wrestler right now, Sammy solo right now. Let's
see. That's a very good question, because I don't think I've ever thought about that. But my favorite wrestler going right now, I would probably go, I probably Dan there go Theory. I can see you. I can see that totally. I mean I think like Theories got the total pact. Well, No, if I my favorite wrestler right now to watch, like I would stop what I'm doing to watch would be Seth. But that yeah, like Seth, like I think I said just years ago, Seth will
is actually going to go down in history greater than Sean Michael. I could see that Seth's only problem was Sean's only problem. Sean survived so many errors where he was never the guy he but he survived the Brett era. He got the title, but then Austin was on his heels as soon as he got it, so like the injury took him out. Sean was at the top, but Sean was never the guy. He might have been Vince's guy, but he was never on paper the guy. I've one that's the guy
and then one that's for the people. I feel like when they gave Sean the belt and then you had like it's one of those situations where like when you had so much you could have put around Sean to make him what he what he could have been like, oh yo for what all your friends left? And then Brent's on, Bret Brett takes vacation. He's like, you're
gonna get the belt. I'm gonna take time off. Nash Leis Harleis your other friend is in the doghouse because he gotta take the heat for what you Nickas did, so you can't really work with him in the spot that you want to. You really got nobody to work with, so your title room really look like asks when you go back and look at it. He didn't really like you, wouldn't. I mean you you work with Bulldog twice? Was this is no knock on Bulldog, but it's debut boy. I mean
he didn't really feel a popping no number on pay per view. You didn't get a good decent match for you to be Sean until you started, until you got to like batter and see it. And that's because they're bigger than you, so you can sail more. You're gonna they're gonna make you look better. Did it on later? He shit, he took a fast shion on and the whole thing would see it. Sean was so fucking space st
out and lost on drugs and shit. She had to drop the bill San So going in to wrestle Mania, see it was champion who dropped it to taker. Sean Michael's best match why he was champion might be mine games when he wrestle Mankin, that's the best match. Shawn's guy as w Here's the thing. As far as as far as matches go, nobody has more classes than Sean Michael. But as far as being the guy, he never was
the guy. He Degeneration Next was big, yes, but when Degeneration Next, you got a period where they were battling fucking other stables, Nation of Domination and fucking her Foundation and singles. You got where he was bouncing back and forth battling bread and then the screw job happens and and he's got the title. But the whole time they're grooming off to the old time that Sean has this belt. There groom in Austin, people weren't turning on WWE to
see Sean Michael's the champion. After they were turning on see what kind of hills Shine? I mean, we want to see what Stone Good do. So then you get to the Rumble, Austin wins now you got the matchup. Sean doesn't want to do the job. I don't think Austin's ready. I don't want to drop the belt to Austin and all this other shit, and you gotta get take her to come through and say, nigga, you're about to do this job at WrestleMania like the boss wants you to do.
I do want to know what looks like, has Sean not got hurt, Like we're still gonna get a belt to Austin because he's the hot guy right now. But I just want to know what that shit like, what the attitude era really looks like? What a healthy Shawn Michaels and he's here full time, like he's here everyday. Well, I say like this, if Sean hasn't been addicted to drugs and alcohol like he was, we probably would have never got to Austin, because now you're talking about a full time Sean
Michaels, it's always gonna be there. Never would have had to take a break. Austin might have got hot based off of what him and Brett did, and he might have been the edge to HBK Sena. Yeah, I think Austin still gets hot. I just think she looks a lot different because Sean is healthy. Oh yeah, it does most definitely agree percent with that. But when it comes out to the product of the WWE, I can't jump into the miltoe character of the typical fan and say, well, WW
is trash right down, because it's not. That's not true. It's actually far from track. It's actually really good writing. It's just the fact that they keep missing moments the matches they put together. Great blow a booger on that mic, and we see it. I'm a live WW put together good matches, the performer exec good matches, but I think they missed pivotal moments we saw with Backlash. I think we saw with the Rumbull. I think
we saw that WrestleMania because I didn't want Cody to win. But I think Sammy should have been in that match, and Sammy should have won that match. Yeah, I think they missed it with Clash at the Castle with Drew. I think Drew should have won the end, definitely. No, they missed it at Clash with Shamus. Yeah, they missed it the moment I don't care what nobody's that should have been Shamuss moment. And I think they're
missing an opportunity here to bring up Gunther and have Gunther challenge. Even if Gunther loses, well, let it be a hard hitting, classic ass match. I don cares about it being two hells, you know what. I think. That's what I always said. Gunther is the one who should be thrown them. But even if he don't, he doesn't let Roman go through
that hill. I don't think you don't say. I don't think Roman has had someone that has really just made Dog feel the match afterwards, like you may have one today because of your trickery, because you got more numbers than I do, but you gonna remember this match, so the next time you see me as a contender, it would make Gunther be somebody Roman kind of fears a little bit under the what Brock should have been, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh tonight, main even is for the number one
contempt or Gunther versus he'd be shameless versus and it's Gunther. And then that's when Roman looks up, and that's another nigga that they need to put if fuck Cody, they need to put Brock with Gunther. Get Gunther over, Get Gunther over it. That shit because honestly, like I said, it's the shit you don't see, right, they are grooming Gunther to be an
unstoppable champ. He definitely is getting because of what happens. They keep putting Gunther in these matches, these impossible situations, and Gunther he's beating there not he's out thinking, you know, not even skimming through the Gunther's winning these matches. He's like, because that triple threat, I didn't think he was gonna make it out a live geez nigga on top of it was down for about five ten. I was like, yeah, because at one point it
was just Drew and shameless. I know where the fuck did Gunther go? And then he power bob the nigga on top of another nigga. Don't do me like death. Don't don't win like that, Bro, tell me the ring general. If you are the ring general, that means that you are the top of the food chat. So that really should be what has the
items of revellency like shaking. You know, as much as we dream these dream scenarios and who's gonna be Roman right now, that's out of my mind because for one day to put Gunther m so whoever beat Roman, Gonna beat Roman whenever they beat him. I'm focused on this world heavyweight type. We've had no We've had no secondary champion for a nine hundred and some fi fucking days. Now we're gonna get set the aj which I felt like before we even knew who the fuck was in there, I was like, that's who
should be the match. It should beat them too. That's gonna give you a great match. And we're gonna get Stelf to have his moment and self gonna be worried. I'm confused. Gunther Versus might be some ship because Guther's gonna touch the world heavyweight title. He may not touch Roman, but he's
gonna touch this word heavyweight title. But this is why I'm confused. If this is supposed to be an exclusive belt to Raw, why are we even giving SmackDown anybody an opportunity to be in this That's a very good question that I do not have answer. And what I'm saying I ain't even trying to make sense something. I was like, you could have took the six and maybe through. Why is the belt even sitting on SmackDown right four? Paul Hayman and Roman to look at when they walked past, right, I get,
I get the moment you guys want. But that's when Roman comes to Raw and says something that he sees the belt. Oh maybe I might add that too much. Maybe I don't and leave it alone. You don't need Why are these and why does Romans still have two fucking belts? Why haven't they they condenced those belts. If those belts are it's the undisputed title. Same reason why one belt, same reason why we ain't split the tag belts up, and same reason why we ain't swap whan is on SmackDown but still
the Raw women's champion. No to this ship. That was no. That was because they wanted her to get the longest right. So now they either gonna drop the belts switch swamp these belts well, because he was home, so you gotta go up home. I feel you belts. We didn't last time. My check oscar was a SmackDown lady, right, yeah he us like what we got two SmackDown the title. It's weird, nothing makes sense.
Meanwhile, Camon Grimes ain't been on TV scause god knows when shows up and squash its baron Corbette because we don't go on funk about that guy. Somebody gotta be a enhancement talent. I give that's what I give. I give credit. Corbyn has about a lot of motherfuckers that came up from the next sea. And if his point in job now is to just job out for other people, he does it. He takes it on the chin.
He doesn't complain. You don't hear him on fucking social media whining. And that's the shit that Vince looks at in the long run and be like, you know what, that nigga needs the title Corbyn gonna be the Corbyn gonna be the new Mess. And I say that because right, but Corbyn is the nigga. He shows up to work, he probably look at whatever the board is like, okay, I'm doing this. I'm gonna go out here. I'm gonna give him out all or whenever they strapped these shitty gimmicks on
dog, he got like I hate it, happy corp. But once he got into it, it was like, all right, I like to hate this nigga because this shit I hate it and I hate it. That's it's worked. Well, that's because let's be honest, long was only gonna go so far. That's literally so many niggas wrestless default gimmick when they first show up anyway that you have to break away from the only others long Wolf. You know, the lone Wolf is just a nigga who's I'm mean, I'm
bad, I'm tough. Nigga's been mean, bad and tough for wrestling since the eighties, my nigga. That's all the lone Wolf really was. I mean, think about it. Most of these characters fade out anyway. Carrying cross is a fucking lone wolf. Carrying cross is a failure. They should left his ass fired. No, they I think they messed up with They messed with with his initial introduction and then they messed up with his return.
They definitely messed up with the initial introduction because he came and down and stared down Roman Rings and no, no, we're talking about the introduction. The one to the roster was cool. Yeah, what he was doing, that's where back to because you had Jeff Herd. He beat him for no fucking right here, the shit out of Jeff Hardy in thirty seconds. Like that's where I feel like Vince getting lost, Like what Vince was running this show?
He getting lost in translation because a lot of shit that works in NXT. Some shit, I get it's not gonna translate well to the main roster, but some shit does, like being an unstoppable force. But but that's not Vince is unstoppable for different styles wrestling. NXT wrestling and the main roster wrestling is two different styles because you got somebody like uh, um champion and uh let's say Johnny wrestling, So you got Gargano, you got champion.
Them motherfuckers was having fast paced matches for like forty five minutes. I'm talking about combos. Yeah yeah, but on the main roster, you don't have nobody that can keep that pace because these niggas, it's so many people. On the main roster, you get maybe a ten or fifteen minute spot that your match. You don't get those thirty and forty five minute matches on the main roster. Nobody gets on a on a pay per view, not even
the chance. Now even Roman gets forty five minutes. So when NX niggers come up and you tell them they only got ten minutes, they about to go hard for ten fucking four minutes. Well, somebody like the Mills can't do that because they don't got to win for that shit, right. Plus they were like, hey kids, slow down, Well slow down is a NXT's game, right. You gotta remember the main roster is all about what
the crowd recognized. That's why as much as we used to get on seeing about his five moves of doom, the crowd was able to know that if he did this, we know what's coming next, we know what's coming after
that, we know when the pop, we know we're going home. Now that you say that, we need something that we can recognize, right, Carrying across debut on the main roster, look nothing that I get what you're going Look nothing like how he was presented to us two But that but that's what I'm saying, Like, shit, don't translate how you saying that? We know? Nothing was recognizable. For one, he showed up without Scarlett. He showed up dressed like a member of demolition. This is not what
I saw on t But that's what I said. It goes back to the fact that because Vince doesn't know what NXT is, it Vince creates what he wants you to be. That's why, because you remember a prime example, Tyler Breese is a prime example, Tyler Breese was an NXT working his ass all. He was one of the last ones that got called up in the first batch. Vince never wanted to call him up because Vince didn't know who
he was to know what to do with him. So when he got caught up, he got thrown with Johnny Curtis and they just was a side show. But that worked. It worked because them he didn't let he got thrown with Fan Dango when him being Tyler Breeze just wasn't working. So when you don't work before you when you don't work as a single, the next step before you get fired is either you get repackaged or you Prince Pretty worked in
NXT. Prince Pretty didn't translate to the main roster. Wonder why he didn't translate because the owner of the fucking company doesn't watch what he put his son in law and charge of That's what I was saying. One I'm agreeing with you didn't sound like you don't sound like you're not agreeing. How many times that you ever even seen this man show up at the end He never never.
I didn't want I didn't want him to be there because he didn't care about it, and he didn't even come down there when he rebranded to point out but the Black and Gold brand was actually better for the longest time it was an which is why I'm disappointed that you didn't pay attention. Because if you're a person who cares about ratings because that's how you get paid, you should pay attention to this little side project that you gave your son to play
with. Why is it doing good numbers? I can tell you for at least five years straight, Takeover was better than wrestle mating. I feel like Vince Gameple n x T because for one, he didn't know what to do with it, and he didn't right, and he didn't know what to do with Triple like, well, you you got to develop the talent because that shit an't gonna work anyway. I'm gonna end up firing all these Here's the problems are the business now right, which is why this wrestling now main roster
works. You're you're champions. The only guy that's not a Triple as guy, which he might be, but is to me his Vince guy. That's wrong that that's still a Triple guy. He came through and he came he was working to get that means who had to get him from FCW. Yeah, Triple You gotta remember who worked with the Shield when they first hit the scene. I had to go back and watch it to pu with them over. Yeah, I mean it was tripleC was given the Triple H. Triple
A developed it turned it into this baby. You look at Bianca Bell Are you look at Bailey? You look at As a matter of fact, Roman said it in this promo when he was talking about who Dusty might have mentioned Cody too, and he ran down the names. Well he might have talked to stuff about you might talk to Bailey, you know. Well I was
with him. You ain't never talk about you. Well, guess what Dusty was working for Triple H. There was all Triple Asian people, ye, that he brought up and he groomed and every So you look at the roster now, the motherfuckers paid more homage to Triple H than they do Vince. And I don't think Viz like said at all because all this people are old and and his people are his, his men. His mentality is the Brock
is the only Vince Guy. Rocket is the last Vince Guy. As far as the top tier on the top level Brock and lastly the only two this guys that are really at the top and whatever, which in Jr. Signed both of them. But yeah, but but but they came up under Vince, the Vince regime. Yeah, and and Brock is really truthfully and we gotta lead. Lastly out Brock is truly the only Vince guy because that's really
Vince boy, that's Vince's boy. So the only really person that got Vince this Vince that because remember Brock was gonna quit when Vince, you know, step down, and Vince had to call Brock and begged him to come back home. Yeah, but I'm just to make this point though, he's the only Vince guy. So now everybody else Honestly, Vince is running the company where everybody pays more homage to the CEOO than they do to the CEO.
He fucking is a terrible person. No, but he didn't give them all a chance, right, I mean, he might have called him up, but he didn't give him a chance to show kJ twlents and be on you know how many PEP talks Triple H and it's you can look it up on YouTube. Gave these motherfuckers when they were down in developmental struggling, struggling, I should say I could believe it. I want Triple Ash to go back to doing the picture, but I mean, I know you probably can't do
it now. Remember when niggas would win a better NHT. Everybody got a picture with Triple H. That was your stamp. You was a star, You got your picture with Triple At this point in time, his life got to look back and be like, dog, I made all these motherfucker's that's out there right now, everybody. Duh, Okay, So just looking at the original vision of wrestling is amazed, not even counting the women. I
think these are all the dudes you had. Aiden English did pretty good, Ruth Seth, Corbin, big e Bo, Dallas Bray, Wyatt Saxton who eventually became a commentator instead. I'm surprised he still got a job. Colin Cassidy, but he's over in a fire. He's over in aw right now. He's terrible. Dan, you had Diana bros Eric Rowing, you had Jason Jordan, which you potentially could be good. He could have potential. Yeah, but we all knew who the real start earned that paycheck. Gable
Star earned that paycheck. That nigga earn that paycheck? Leo Krueger. I felt like that story would have been way more compelling had Bree Mojoe rawlins. This is when it comes like vestiges don't be knowing talents. Roland Range seth Rawlins, like, why was Xavier Woods? Why was fucking Chad Gable not Kurt Angel's illegitimate son? Why that has to be the black dude? Now? We just like, because you know what, because he was in real life. First of all, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I
don't know if he was watching TNA. That was at one point in time where Kurt was in trouble. Did he beat a Rocket College? That's who he was fucking with. That's where the joke, That's where the jokes start from. That's how it transitioned to Jason Jordan's such a great guy. She was suing everybody. You know, So, does anybody want to pull up the Knighted Champions carfo get out her? Really? It ain't even Curry. I mean, we know, like the first I mean, the show is
in two weeks. I mean, what else are they really gonna put on this car? It's Saudi Arabia. Bro it can be a lot of shit that pop up, all right. So here's a question of that. Do you feel like, do you think that there are any potential dream matches like left or do you feel like there's nobody outside of the w W that's a
bigger star. Well, here's the thing. First of all, you have to be outside of WWE rustling fan to know who's worth being a dream match, because you got niggas in New Japan has never been over here that got crazy status is that could create dream matches. But just like an aw if you don't know who these dudes are, you'll know the importancy of this match. That's why. That's why I like a personal thing, like you know anybody for I'm just now starting to get in the dream matches New Japan.
Like I said, Brock and Walter any ya, That's definitely right. It could be Walter, Walter and Rollman. That's another one. Both of those are gonna happen eventually. I like how you refuse to call him go through even in the group, because if you've seen Walter in n xt UK, you'll you'll refuse to go back and watch that. Jack Mike let me think back, and I feel like I feel like at some point the time they should have gave us Rock and Randy. I feel like that should have happened.
He went Hollywood too soon even that, like he was coming back to Russell on his way to being a billionaire. Now I don't never come Rock, and you're not getting that nigg in to touch, you know, if you didn't get him for this year when it was supposed to be him in Roman, he ain't coming back. But they're gonna still tease the whole of WrestleMania forty things. I don't really want to see him rustle Room. I
could care less. Don't get fine with it when it was a Hollywood thing, and I thought, you know, this last year was the minute they should have if you were gonna do it should have been like when you think about it, like if you look at that family tree, not that one that Chock posted, because that shit was all screwed up, but that's the one everybody keep bringing up their true family tree. Rock is a very very very distant cousin to them. Yeah, he's he's no close to them than
to Mina. This like their motherfuckers are so separate they their cousins because they're all Simona. It's funny. Majority of the Samoans our cousins, their cousins, cousins. I feel like that's what it is, their cousins, cousins. I feel like rockets that cousin that you might not know your cousin until like a Facebook post pop up and your real cousin is kicking it with him, like me and cousin his family, people like I'm related to Funds.
What shout out didn't just be that, Hey, the Samoan's family is this snigger. I could believe it because you got a lot of this is this nigger, I'm this nigger cousin. That's how deep it is, yo. The fact that you say that and then with me, me and Tommy had that revelation like, damn, does that mean I'm dog cousin dash crazy. I don't like that. See, I don't like that should be running too deep, But that's what And it's all because they don't won the island,
so they all bound to be related in one shape or form. That's really what it is. So you know, the whole thing to say, you know, oh yeah, Rock gotta face his cousin Roman technically true, but the motheruck is so far just like you would have thought that would have been brought up when the shield interrupted seeing Punk match to power bomb Rock through that table. It's not relevant to know each other like that. It's the same thing as that nigga was a nigga until he got the champion, then he
was someone. I was just gonna say that because I'm like, I've also noticed like a lot of shit. They don't break up because it ain't storyline purpose, Like Rock was a nigga until he became the WW champion. When he became a WW champion, it was third generation this and high chief feeding. They stopped giving the fun about Rocky Johnson, like you swore up and down Rocky Johnson just got caught with like a pound of drugs on him,
and we're trying to disassociate you. They was treating Rocky Johnson like Chris Oh, he's because he was rocking my Vida when he came in. He was never a Rocky Johnson's son. He was the grandson of Rocky. Yeah, well we can't say no no Rocky Johnson. Were you sure? Market ds fucking saman niggas yeah, he was only Samoe when nigga that came out that wasn't wild and crazy because up until reason that literally he was the first, Yeah, the first one that wasn't wild and crazy. He was no,
I mean he was the first period. The crazy ones came in the next generation. That's that's right, is how Chief Peter might be was sitting up by itself, right, and that that's when they came through. And then we're on the generation now of you know you're to me? Is uso? Do they claim Jimmy snicker or is he like the Rock? He's just like a distant He's somewhere on this tree. But he not say that's why Tom is in in the conversation, but she's not in the conversation same thing.
But I think we're at a point now, Jack, we don't need the Rock to save these nigga jobs like Roman guys because in their culture there are no second cousins because Rocket isn't there first cousins. Remember Rock is uh uh what's called it? Rakish's cousin, So they don't do second cousins and someone so they call them uncle. Even he's the same age as these niggas. They was like Uncle Joe, this Uncle Joe that it's just because the American
culture the Romans a little bit older than them. Yeah, because like I watched the TikTok and it was like that Roman just looks a lot older one because he's bigger and too because Roman grays more. Because you know, like on SmackDown, the nigga died his beard. Look at it to go back and look, Roman beard is jet black. But if you go back to WrestleMania, the nigga got grays all over the place, Which don't make sense to me. Why would you not die for Rustlemania but die for SmackDown unless
it was way a lot more grades. When he was off he left Cody No, just just that old school line Swooper you from He probably didn't have time to get I'm gonna beat you like you daddy should have beat you. Do you know that this nigga gets his haircut, uh before he comes out every fucking time. Yeah, and it takes and it takes an hour for them to line his beard up to get it perfectly and all this other shit. He not wrong, man, If I was him, he was like
all unique. Like when I watched Baby paused his segment until his beard is done. And then when I watched these like these clips on is it real or is he shooting? Like is this like in character? This is a shoot because he'd be talking some shit, but it'd be valid. He was like, all these niggas back here, which they had my deal. He said, that's the truth. When he said that, I'm like, yeah, because if you told me that I could get the same amount of money
and work, I have to fucking schedule. I take that in the heartbeat. But see that's that that that's another problem I got with w You create a problem and then you act like it's a problem. It's not a problem if you created it. Yep, it's your creation. You gave Roman this deal, you gave Roman these bills, and now you want to complain about it, like we need a champion that's on TV. Well, if you need a champion that's on TV, why did you give your champion this deal?
Or why did you give this deal to your champion? I also feel like with them angling wrestling to be looked at more of like a sport. A lot of shit that we used to didn't know we know now and I feel like it taints for some people the image of what wrestling really is, because now we look at wrestling, some people I would say, look at it like how they would look at a basketball player. You look at a football player. So Roman is Kawhi Leonard because he's always fucking low managing.
Because Kawhi Leonard don't play all eighty two games. Roman is not working all these fucking dates. But back then, like when Hogan didn't do it, we didn't know the city, we didn't know the status of Hogan's contract. We didn't know if Hogan only well, you only got six dates this month, so you're only gonna work six times this month, and then next month you may not work at all. But because we don't do as much TV and it's just predicated on house shows type shit, we don't know. Hogan's
not here all the time, and everything is fucking tape. So Hogan might have taped six fucking segments in a row, but then they spread them shits out over six fucking six weeks. So now Hogan didn't do house shows. So the belt was only defended on pay per views as we saw right, but it could have been defended four times a week r because he did do House shows because he did hit because he did and I feel like that was the I feel like that was the original Romans deal, Like Roman really wanted
less. House showed that, but then they turned that shit into a storyline. So when you turn what it's personal into a storyline, now he's really not on fucking TV, which is crazy because now Brock is working his ass off and Romans the one that's every pay per view this year. This is
why you shouldn't speak on shit you gonna understand about. Because Roman could have hold promo Brock being a part timer and a bitch because he does never there and he's never doing anything, and where it happened, it turned around and bit him in the ass. I do feel like, but ain't that the same conversation Rock and Sena had exactly, So Sena didn't understand all these promos that people cut and then when you get to this level, it kind of
makes you look like a hypocrite. Causina at the point when Sena was calling out Rock, yeah, you were there everywhere, but now you're in the Catbirds, You're in Rock Spot, so now you on the show up when they need you, because he stated he was like, I didn't understand. I was younger, I was ignorant. I didn't know what I was doing.
He even apologized for the promo when he was calling Rock out for writing this ship on this He's like, do you know how much this man go through in the day, how much he's got to remember, how much he's got to do. He's like, of course he's not gonna remember a promo. And then I called him out for not having it. Don't bitch out though, Like I get it, then you understand, but living your ship that you stand doing that? Did you call folks out for having his notes
on his wrists? And I was like, yo, he had them notes on his wrist. Fuck that nack because nobody else noticed until he pointed it out. And then you like, damn Rock then lost it. But you gotta think about it. This nigga had business meetings. This nigga then had scripts. Right, what did he do? He got like it? Like like literally, he's doing all of this as a fucking favorite of Vince because he feels like Vince gave the opportunity to be who he is, so he's
showing up and wrestling you as a favorite of this motherfucker. Of course he ain't gonna have a ship written down. Let me write some keynotes down here. I can get his promo and I can get back to whatever else I gotta do. Get a fan of something that I you know what, I didn't know now. I saw it in the I watched a lot of TikTok. Most of my TikTok wrestling related as you need to grow the fuck up. I will never grow up. But I didn't know that. Vince get
like a percentage of everything John does. I did not know that because of it, because because he missed a boat with Rock. Now with Rock, there had never been a true man stream movie star. Yes, Roddy, Piper and Hogan had movies and stuff, but they were never really truly movie stars. Rock asked, look, I want to go do movies. He's like, I've seen this before. You guys want to go do Go do your movies. And then Rock turns into a box office smash, something like
the w W has never seen before. See when Batista did it. Batista was then there his contract, so there was nothing for for the Vince to do. Rock was a movie star on company times. Yeah, Vice was like, go do your movies or whatever. Then Rock turns into this box office but by now, by time, because Rock even asked for his name
Rock. Yeah, that's why people still call him the Rock. He couldn't use that name if Vince had gave it to him, But Vince gave him all his permission because of all other failed wrestlers that went out of there and try figuring, you guys make a couple hundred thousand WWOT the w W studio alone is like, Okay, that's not gonna work. That's crazy. Look at the little Look at the list of people that you know that that went left and went to movies. Yeah, the Nathan Jones, Okay, Nathan
Jones is one of them. Remember he's been in the He's probably got like forty movies that he's done appearances in and been the big strong guys. Somebody's got to take off. He was even in Troy to the brad Bit, right, they gotta remember. But he's never been a movie star. The Rock did something nobody so once Vin seen I could have been getting the cut out of all it because the Rock is the highest gross the actor. So is this why stopped? Because like I was like, when you go back
you watching old Rock movies. When you watch the credits, he used to Rock Johnson. Now that Johnson. Maybe Vince was getting cut off his name, so he stopped using that. Now, no VI game his name. Get this game the right to us his name. Rock talks somebody he wouldn't have had a conversation with Vince, and Vince stop using the Rock because he wants to be recognized as not as the wrestler anymore, but as an individual, as an actor. He doesn't want to be known as the wrestling nobody
wants to be known as the actor. But he's the same character in every movie because always, because all I watched Black Adam, I was like, if you throw just like Rudy Pool candy Ass somewhere here, you're just the Rock. And so I mean, like like the rocks at the President and then Vince all the money he missed off of because if he could have got you know, a percentage of off, like I said, the rockets getting
ready to be a billionaire. I don't see how Hogan failed. Terremantic Tequila, did you see some of the movies at the time when Hogan was making movies like you got Those movies were hot for the time, but never broke box off. They were not rockets been Inlet let's do. Okay, here's the mistake you're making. I only, and I only, and I only say I don't get why Hark Hogan wasn't as big, and Hogan was bigger than Jesus at one point in time as far as being a wrestler. But
that's where you're making the mistaken right. You only looked at that part. He never looked at them, uh Commando. And he couldn't He couldn't get the wrestling fans to watch his movies. No, No, that's all he was getting was the wrestling. He couldn't get the regular he got quality. Let run down the rock movie. You start off with Scorpion King, then Scorpion King too, and then you know, like, uh, what was it the one where he was with uh Central thing, the Tyner and all
of them? Uh uh and John Travolta Get Get Shorty, Get Shorty. You know you got those movies, man, Okay, they're fine, but then you start getting into your fast and furious Gi Joe type money. Uh, the Hobbs and Shaw type money, where these motherfucker's never even watched wrestling before, but he's in franchise movies. Black Adam, this nigga did a
cameo and fucking why did I get married too? Or this nigga? This nigga isn't it didn't enter it le wrestling altogether and became movie start them and then this looks back and like, damn, I could have been getting a piece of that the whole time, but I didn't know he was gonna turn into that. So now when the next niggas come around, like John Cena like, yeah, I'm gonna start doing movies, well yeah, yeah, here, just so you know, in your contract the states that your likeness
is owned by me. So if you want to do the movies, that's fine. But I'm gonna need four percent off of all the movies you do and all of it. And John is like sure, because you take it forward percent of nothing is not gonna bother. Yeah, that's crazy that you're making that much money that the nigga who is constantly in your pocket don't even bother you. That's beIN. It's better than not getting anything at all.
But just to know that I'm making like how much do I don't even know the cut vice get but to make that much money to him getting the cut don't bother you. If you pay taxes, you you don't care because they take a cut of your money all the time. What are the chances that will ever? Yeah, a rocking scena like a buddy cop movie. I don't want it. You know, we could have got the rocking scene. You know, one thing is whether he loved a rock and you hate the
rock. You have to recognize this rock is a cancer to fucking movie franchises. That's why Rock doesn't do a lot of sequels. The only sequels he's done is really Fast and Furious and but that was already rolling before he got that count. He didn't even do that. He didn't even come back.
Everybody Fast and Furious movies he did too, So he did too. And then they replaced him with John and I think he said he claims he left because and you know the funny thing everybody said Tyrese was mental and crazy and stuff when he went at the rock and said the rock ain't doing nothing but tearing the shit or gonna tear this shit up. Oh, he ain't really been as many movies you thought. I mean, he had a cameo Rocky three he did know holst Bard, which you might as well call that a
w W HE studio movie favorite. Uh, Suburban Commando, Mister Nanny three, Thundering Paradise spinoffs show. Uh, he popped up a little. But look, if you grew up to the Magma Pi area, you would love Thunder. Before that, Hogan did a couple of cameos on the eighteen. Yeah, I was gonna sorry, that's literally all it was. Uh, Secret Agent, Club Santa with Muscles, the off. He did what we now considered to be movies. No Amazon Prime, he did Amazon Prime movies.
Bro, he popped up. Yeah, I was like three Niggas high Noon too, Yo. Undertaker magazin a cameo in one of the movies. That Suburban Commando, he's in one of the movies. I went back. The thing is well in the Bear, what Rock did, what he did? Nobody saw that saw it on Death Mount Dog really was out here doing to me, I mean a lot of shit that like happened a lot of people can't really call it. Nothing he ever did got like I would have
never known that. Like, Yo, that was really Funna give my nigga the boot before he started rapping on TV like John Cena, he was about this, he was playing. He was literally we say this all the time
when he came out. He's the default call character. He dressed like one too, but that's why he was able to tell Theory what he told him like, it's like you me, yeah, because you literally look at how Theory He d like John too, but he also looked he he looks up to John Cena, So I'm not surprised that the look does not emulate. But I was glad John put him over long before Theory is headlined or something three years, because we know he ain't gonna do it like the next two
three years down they have a new belt three years. No, no, I don't mean just a world champion in the match on the car, I mean headline. I mean Theory is on the market. Here's the reason why we are coming. He is The last funny thing is since Roman has been on top, the women ain't closed Resture. Don't they closed Night one? They always closed night they give night one. They didn't close not this year, but when Sash Wrestle Beyond It, they closed Night one. But that
story was huge though that had but on top. The women have not closed the restumetd too big. That's fucked up though. And Roman was talking this ship on Friday. You say what you want, but Nigga, we close both nights of this ship. You'll never see that again. And he right. I wanted Loki, I want a Roman to close both nights. I was like, you should defend one title on Saturday, one title on one the Sammy and who's the champ of the challenges, But that's Coldy goes night
too. Sammy goes night one. Now I think you had to be Cody nine one because if you're gonna let Sammy win, Sammy gotta win on side. The only reason why you only the only reason why you put Cody on night too, because he's the rumbo winner. That don't mean shit, all right, he still rue true, but you are rubble on me to got them. And then they won the rubble and he was dead smack in the middle of the show and with a triple threat with the Ordon and the Angle
and Vince one. Maybe why some things that old tradition traditional standards. You are right, but I gotta remember it's not tradition anymore. WRESTLEMANI is not even one night. No more like traditions. Tradition can't be broken. Like I like these, I like I feel like the main event should be whatever the most intriguing storyline it is, But it is. I I'm just saying, any pay per view the storyline, you should have closed whatever is the best. But let's let's be honest. No, no, no, but
let's go back to backlash. Prior to before going into that match, was Bad Bunny versus Priests the most intriguing story in the storyline at the time, over the fact that Brock literally just destroyed Cody for no reason. Yes, yes, because I didn't see the build up to that other than the fact that when technically started when Bad Bunny costs Demo the shit at Wrestle Mating. You're right, you're right. I forgot about that moment. Oh and before
because we pivoted. That's my favorite wrestler right now, Domo. It doesn't matter in the w w E. You don't don't have to be the best wrestler. Yeah, you just asked who that's my favorite? I told you back when y'a allways sitting on him. I put him in the ring. It's like, Okay, we're gonna make you good on the game, and I literally anybody right now. And you know what I love about it because all he is is being a defiant kid and he's a badass team. He's
a bad he's defiant kid. People that yeah, they hate him, and that's probably the most simplistic way to get him over. So simplician, I'm gonna say this isn't get ready to roll out about out. But Damo literally, uh shot the hill out of me because when he joined Judgment Day, I didn't see it. Um when they put him with real ripley, I didn't see it. But like mommy, no, no, we're saying he didn't see it. I didn't see they was whooping his ass, so they
whipped the mental submission. He joins the Judgment Day, he starts going at his dad and churned on edge and all that. I didn't see it. But when he picked up Mica on raw and they would not let him talk, they would not let him talk at all. That is the kind of heat that makes legends. The only other person I've seen ever have heat like that with even Marie Vi after he beat Taker, right Roman, after he beat me, I didn't understand that because at that point in time, Taker
had already took an eil. But the crowd determines all that, and they wouldn't let Roman talk. All he could say is my yard now, and that that was the whole promo. But Roman stated of the ring for five minutes, and every time he tried to open his mouth, they booed the fuck out of him, and that's when the w W should have turned his ass. Then. I don't know why they waited two years to do it.
It was just at one point, like it was, we saw what you were doing, so I don't give a fuck what position you put this nigga in boo When Roman came out there and was like, I gotta get his belt up? Why you gotta get a belt up? I got cancer. You're not gonna boo a nigga coming back from cancer, right, And
I think that's what it was. We literally and I like, and I don't know if I wrote this in the group, but like, I felt like, had we not been in a pandemic, even if Roman Rains was off TV and we was in a building with people when he came out and did what he did as Summer Slam crowd would him went crazy, you can't boot this man. We ain't seen him in six months. That beat leukemia, I do think I do as far as Roman rains. Like the way the Chips field though, I love it when he came back and nobody knew.
Everybody was confused because he just beat braun Stroman down and fucking break White down with a chair and nobody knew why or what he was doing. And then on SmackDown he basically shows you I'm with Hayman now, but I feel like and now like Dog, this nigga's a heel. And then he gets around it, I mean, turns around and he comes after the Universal title. You don't come out at the beginning of the match. He comes out towards that he signed the contract at the end of the What kind of badass
hell shit is that? I ain't never seen that a new age hell shit. I ain't never seen no niggas sign his contract in the middle, then he says, I need a group around me. I'm gonna start whipping on my little cousin. Dog bullied his cousins into being down with them because you know, Jimmy can't through. It was like, man, you've been abusing jays Man. I can't have that stuff, like that tension that I felt when he mushed. I'm like, yo, Jimmy, Jimmy gonna swing because
Jimmy ain't really been that with this shit since day one. But the thing is may have been j I think out a plan. I think that I really, I really believe. I believe what y'all saying. I think the USO is gonna cost them them belts. I want to Loki, but just to see where the story gonna go. I want them to win. I do too. I want them to win because if they win, then that sets up at the SummerSlam. Then you get the USO versus Solo and Roman or that's a nasty main event. Not I'm here for it, but I
got and get Roman wrestling. But Roman doesn't have to put those titles up, which means you can extend that title range. I feel bad. Nigga's all this about, though, If you can put Roman in an interesting situation to get us like how we wrote it in the group, I gotta see what's gonna happen next. If you can get him in interesting situations to make you want to see what's gonna happen next that they're gonna keep extending this. Like I said, this is not this is not a champions card looking great.
Yeah, because I'm like Roman, I see. I'm like, okay, Roman gonna wrestling Saudi? Who are you gonna wrestle? Then he was like, are we wrestling the tag match? I'm like, okay, we'll see. That's how we extend this another couple hundred days because now he ain't got a solo man. We gotta sit here and see what the I don't think he's gonna wrestling in London. I don't think he wrestling money in the bank. I think the money in the bank is either we're gonna we're gonna
focus on this world type because your international shows, my god. Yeah, because they realize that they need to start getting outside money. That was another reason why so they try the ta Yeah, because we're gonna do all these international shows. So he might do Sawty because that Sawty, but London probably not. We don't get Seth or whatever he might have been with, and
whoever we do show in Japan or watch that ship. But I think that's why the belt, the new belt is dropping at a perfect time because we don't have to send Roman overseas. It's the consolation prize. I don't know, it's the consolation prices. We see it. But he gave it to Cody, I'd have definitely been like, prize, he ain't gonna beat the tribal chief he s though he's long overdue for it. But if he give
it to Seth, then that means all roads lead to Roman. Because Seth has been vocal and stating that, look, I'm just as good as this nigga is. They just put all the money in the Roman, what like, what are we really saving that for four? Because I feel like that is actually that's a bird at forty. That's a Rustlemania main event that they really die in the back pocket. Now that they just said, if he the thrones Roman, I don't care because you know, Seth can carry the
company, done it before if anybody, and he deserves it. Lastly, if you give him MVP, that should lasts a month at top because people are gonna be like, it's just they'll be excited to see Roman get pined.
But it'd be like when Kofy wanted for me, Kofe tied the rain was over the moment he pinned Dane Brian one two three because I was happy to see Kofe win it, but after that, I ain't gonna Everything was downhill, like right, you knew he was gonna lose, and you just and when you found out it was brought, we knew, don't don't kill me. But Kofe had a Sean Michael started a round. Yeah, San Michael start run like the moment was great and we love a moment like Sean
Michaels boy Hood drain. We were there for the moment, but then when you get into like, oh, you really gotta do this shit, and you don't have no people to work with because kofe first two title matches out the gate was doff Ziggler Ill didn't turn around and get it with Randy Jordan. But y'all didn't build the story up right now that they were banking on that ship from ten years ago when he kicked Kofe in the head and kept
him down. But na, we're not here for that. But they didn't really let him dig into it. They tell the truth about how you really felt about that Kofe, Right, you bitch ass nigga, you know. And then Randy just say you you couldn't sell. You couldn't sell. Then he can't say, really build a story. Let that niggas go. Let Sena be the king of promos. All Sena does tell the truth. Every single time scene goes out, he tells the absolute, unubated truth. You
ain't good. You fuck up at this, you fuck up at that. The closest person that really got with Sena was see him Pump. It's like, Sena, stop Jack, You're not the underdog. You're the New York niggas. How me time to range? You got my nigga? You ain't the underdog I am? Why is you out here lobby like you? I feel like, tell the truth in your promo? See him Punk got you.
And then when they when the loop came around and he had Roman again, the Roman wasn't playing with him this time, like you missionary, my dog, you got one move. It's the same shit every night, I still think though he ain't and Roman still couldn't come back from that week told him like, dog, you look y'all do this part time because I do
a better part time. You could ever do it full time? Yo. When he was a little fire in the Roman and now looking back, they will see everybody will see Roman romans a draw like, hey, would you say you do it better than part time the nigga. You ain't never sell what I'm so, I will say, Dan, like you said, John tells the truth when he does his promos. He said, the only reason I'm here is because you can't do your fucking job. If you do your
job, they're quick ringing my phone. It was like, hold my beer. They got to call your ass, they said. When he said that dog, we did near forget, forgot that scene. Ain't wrestled all year. No, he was lying, oh, you talking about the tag match. I'm just saying in general, like we really forgot about twenty eighteen. When he was like, they keep calling me because you can't do your job. Never looked back. Roman said, old my beard. Seventh straight WrestleMania
is I'm you got. We don't never got to call big match John again because this big Dog wrong. There's tribal chiefs up dog. That might be a record, that might be another record. Yeah, that Roman main seven wrestlemanis it could be to show open the next year's promo. Straight seven s. He hasn't been a nine holding and so yeah he got a hold, but holding seven straight holding ain't Romans ain't even seventh straight. Hold got the
first eight wrestlemanis no no, because he didn't. Yeah, he didn't even make it pass the first match because him and Andre eliminated each other. He was in the name. Even it's all right before Seth Robins. This generation is many. Yeah, fortunately he he just he just got stuck in a bad spot his Romans time. And well, what I do love about Seth, Seth is like you know what, he himself, I'm gonna be number two, but I'm gonna be the best number two you got in his motherfucker.
But I think the Seth is very smart. But he knows he's gonna mind the way to get from under Roman. And I don't know if you'll ever get Roman spot, but he's gonna get damn close. I just want him down the crowd. I just want them to give him. I just want them to give my man's a proper rest. But but but like everybody keeps saying, every generation or every time we see the goat go, there'll never be another guy. There was never supposed to be another guy with Roman
or whatever. They said after scene they weren't doing the guy thing anymore. They'll never be the guy. And then we get Roman because I think that's the nature of the business. There has to be the guy. There's a corporate there's a corporate person, and then there's the people's person. So somebody, somebody would be the guy after Roman, you know, takes his decline, Will Roman always be you know, able to come back and get a
spot and main event and shit like that. Yeah, keep going, But just looking at how wrestling is now, it's a lot of like the main events same for a change drastically like five six years. Because I don't think Roman foring to really be here for another five six years. He probably got another. When Roman loses this match, he's taking a minimum of the year off m minimum of a year. You just you gotta start looking at these low cards this because that's theory. That's why I asked how long before?
Because that's gonna be the guy. I feel like the next guy it might be Austin theory. No, I don't. I do think Rock chav is retirement batch, and I don't think it should have been John c that though that lost to John ceter as a matter of fact, it would have been good if that was John Seen that was his retirement match, but then he should have let everybody know that was his retirement match. Yeah, we need Roman does be. The only other person I would have game would have been
Triple H because that's who, that's your few. Yeah, that's that that that that's it. That was Rock's greatest feud right there. A lot of people say it was Austin. For me, it was Triple H. So I mean, like, who says it is awesome? A lot of people said it was also Yeah, a lot of people, but remember they went
through WrestleManias against each other. But true, but those like if you don't give me your grades, right, like you spent the most time with Triple H. Yeah, And I mean when y'all was nobody he's battling over the Intercontinental title, it was. But that's what you fight on every single level that you act. When niggas didn't have a built when niggas fighting over the IC belt, then they turned around and started fighting for the world. But
it was always them. That was a constant for me. But people, you know, always throw Austin and they're always rocking Austin, Rocking Austin, Rocking Austen, and I feel like I can understand it, but I like they say that because Rocking Austin got through the rest of matches, Triple Rock have one if you count that faith, But because they did everything else, they did other shows. Yeah, they did a lot of other shows, so I wouldn't if I was a retirement match, and if I could have
gave Triple later retirement match, I think you should have been Rock. It would have been Rocket Sean for Triple Late for me. But Sean Sean wouldn't have been able to do because when they brought him back for that Sauty show, I'm like, why did you even come back? Why did any of them come I wish you wasn't such a dick when he was on drugs because they pitched that ship back in the day Rocks like like that that ship would
have been some ship Rock versus Sean. I had have been lit. I'm sorry why they still like let fucking Sean cost uh Rock the title and never explained why. Yeah, I had to be just from the outfit she was wearing, like maybe they were supposed to, but Sean wouldn't even make it clear the wrestle back, Like, I didn't think it was gonna be a wrestling matter. Maybe there was gonna go somewhere with it. They just didn't rock and Sean for me, Uh, I think it would have made sense.
I think it would have been good. But promo wise, I don't know if I would have really understood it, Like what would they really depend depending on at one point in time they would have a match. No, like if we would have had this match like two thousand five or two thousand and six is type shit, then this is strengthly based off of I'm better than you type shit. We can cut these promos on just the best. But I had Sean like been a the wrestler. I got a question,
didn't make sense? Who has an ICT right now? Your favorite nigga gunther? See, this is how much I'm gonna pay attention to the fact that this nigga has a belt because he just beats ass and go home. Yeah, did you watch Monday in that row? I ain't watch the broadest week. There was a whole problem about I know I'm saying that, but I come next week. Actually, yeah, next week. That's I didn't watch. But there's gonna be a number one contender match. You gonna beat up
whoever? That's what I'm saying, Like, who's gonna That's what The reason why I was asking that question is now that we got to shuffle the belts everywhere and whatnot, Who in the hell does he lose his belt too? Like if we're talking about him being next in line to be the nigga, who should dethrone Roman in this current error, who dethrones him? I say that I've only seen I've only seen Gunther slash Walter beat once and when Yeah,
like we watched that one. Chid claims he got beat another time earlier before I got paying attention. I think he lost the fates. Yeah, But other than that, I've never seen, never seen it. Even even that match was a struggle dog, He's a whole fucking the drag hole. That mess long, well, when the Gunther won the title was an hour long. That's the one I've seen, you know, honestly, low key,
I mean, because he got to lose it at some point. It's I wouldn't mind if it's Cody. That's why I thought it was that that is the biggest fucking constellation Pride. If that nigga only get the Icy belt should I mean for I feel like Cody for Beck up after that match, and it's like if finished and finishing the story means you gotta be wrong. That's cool, but you're not gonna for your story right now because we didn't split you niggas out, We don't put rumbing off smack down. You are
rock and now none that. And if they're not gonna give you this stupid ass a world title because that is reserved for my nigga, the visionary, you need something to do in order for us to move Walter up the car. Somebody got to be the placeholder and just hold this belt. And I don't feel like it's gonna be Drew because I feel like if Drew does come back, you're gonna be a hell. Ain't gonna be a top hill.
Seth gonna need somebody to fight so you can interchange Walter and Drew as far as giving somebody for Seth and like Drew is not major enough to wear, sliding him back downing U Sef and Walter is money yet a SummerSlam. So if you got Seth and Walter and now you gotta have Cody and Drew at Austria, was ain't they gonna go world? So it's like you and like like Drew is one of them guys, was like we just lied him up the car. We just slopped down the car. Really don't affect how people
feel about him. He's a good interchangeable person because imperium is a concept. I never really understood the guy behind until they actually started. Well it probably a couple of months after the imperium was and then you started getting up. Did you watch them next? Yeah? They was just three niggas. That's purest, purest respect the ring. Oh god, that's it. That's all it's about. This, This is game. This is sacred because that's why
that's why I want to see Walter enrollment because it's my yard. But you gonna respect the ring. Nigga don't want that smoke. Rock didn't even want that smoke. He saw them Chops was like not hitting me, like this, have you down to take some super blexes? Cool? But them chops out. I said, they had their moment at the rubble and they like y'all the ww miss they even pull the trigger because that should have been the match of WrestleMania. Yeah, I mean all credit due to that triple threat.
One of the best matches on the card both nights period, that triple threat, but I still think it should have been brocking Rock and Walter. That would have been a match out of something my teeth into like what's about to happen? Who's about to win? Because you got two of the hardest hitting niggas, And this is the one time you can't say Brock is the most dominant in the ring because like Walter looks like he fights, He fights,
he don't hold. He don't feel like Summer Slam, there's gonna be something special as far as this card, I feel like it gotta be something special because Backlash card actually I didn't look good. The Backlash was better than WrestleMania, and now it looks like from the card that would give Nighted Champions is gonna be as good as Backlash was. So yes, Summer Slam is
gonna have to bring. But what I got I got faith him. I feel like if this is truly the triple aged era of main roster wrestling, I like where we're gonna it's n XT elevator, that's all it is. So because takeovers kept getting better and better and better and better, to the point where I don't think he missed on any takeovers I had at one point time. Problem. I just don't watch that. That's the only problem,
because I know just the match quality is gonna be good. I don't even know it's on the car outside of bron Breaker and Mellow for the Belt, I don't even know. I don't like hill Brian as much as I thought I would. But Trick Trick been clowning lately. I think he's only here because Daddy said that goofy shit and they was like, Yo, we can't fire you, but you gotta be a bad guy now, don't Your dad called dad cost and his and his DLC just dropped too. Look y'all gotta
understand these old niggas. It's because stop letting them talk. Man. They old they sent dropped on the head the last thirty to remember that most of these old wrestlers came from a racist error, so they don't see nothing wrong with how they talking. Look at Iron Cheek. Why do you give him Twitter? But he don't And I'm okay with that. He hate that nigga after he did the job for Hogan. I like every time I see one of y'all Twitter, I'm like, does he just regret breaking do for the
tens? Because for ten Gez, I probably would have took you off. Bro Wrestling would be so difficult for a lot of niggas. And you know what they said, they you know, the fucking Vince little chic like because he didn't take that blood money and he just loves cheking doors Chic and Chic fucked up and he kept bringing che back and giving them chances. Because if you gotta look at the dog, if you take Hogan out, it's none
of this nigga. We would the Mandela effect. I often had that argument with people, maybe like man, anybody could have did Nah, we could have. We could have put much o man savage. Think about it. They tried it. They tried to a warrior to give him whole Coogan's job. They try to go to give him whole Coogan's job. Holgan had a level of charisma that was unmatched during that time. I tell people like, whether you are a Hawker maniac, or you grew up loving hawk Hookan,
or you grew up liking the other nigga. I was on the other side of the ring from Harko. You cannot take away the fact that Hawk Hogan and what he did for wrestling is the reason why you like professional wrestling. Hawk holding because of Figure Hill Gang. Right. If don't come in this bitch and say a hip hop hip to the hippy to the hip hip hop, we don't have no fucking tribal cheat. Nope. On that note, it's been a beautiful time. I fuck with joll for coming to kick it
with me. Shout out the Tory coming up when you're gonna bring your pot cash back. Streets has been calling yet Streets need real bar talks. We really do need real bar to getting back on the Difference Hall of Fame board. Now you're in the new room, the room over there, yeah where Timmy was, Yeah, you're over there. I moved to Classics. Go over there. Okay, I give with We'll get with Casey and uh see, you know we can go to the classic room. Just do a classic
room. We got brain, real real bart back started a lot of like did you ever have like a good bye episode? I feel like niggas just was like I ain't coming in this week. No, you know exactly what happens. Nigga nigga bought a truck and never look back. You know what what color I'm I'm gonna get the game back together. No, two two. It started with two, started with two in the basement, and it needs to be back as two in the base. Everybody else can come visit,
but two in the basement. Yeah, man, you gotta take it back to the original farm. Okay, I'll talk to I talked to my partner in crime with because that's how it was. I still got the original intro? True? Do you still got whatever? We started with our smoke I drank and then he got one custom man? Oh damn. Now ya can actually have a visual intro? Now, you know it's funny. Let me try and leave it the caller now, No, I'm about to go try and see if I can. I see if it's still up. I
don't know if it be still up. A lot of your old, old, old old episodes at No, we're talking all right? With that being said, makes you check us out of all streaming platform? Can you start telling them about you know, real bird talking. I don't want them to hear that makes you check us on the all streaming platform that speaker Spotify. I heart radio. Make sure you listen to of on TBR radio that tone that radio dop media for you to go ahead and check out all the things
we got going on here. Shout out to Timmy, shout out to One, shout out to Tori once again. Definitely want to give a shout out to Tory right here because if it wasn't for him, along with a few other people, PDR would not be where we are right now in regards to that, So I want to give him his flowers while he's still living. And with that being said, people, we are fucking out of here. Peace,
