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The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

Marika S. Bell www.thedealwithanimals.com

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives: diet, wildlife, clothes and even medicines, are all intersections we often don’t think about. 

This is a podcast about the interactions and connections between humans and non-human animals.

Our mission is to make research more accessible to the public while sharing the voices and lived experience of our human connection with animals.

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Episodes

Trailer for Series 14: The Dog's Days of Summer

Send us a text Join me and my guest co-host Dog trainer, Kate Lasala, from reimagine look at foundational episodes from series 1. These aren't repeats, they're focused episodes highlighting many of the ways that humans and their canine companions live and learn to thrive together. Support the show Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read the Blog! (Guest profiles, book recommendations, trailers and more!) What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast M...

Jun 30, 20252 min

124. What Can a Matriarchal Society Teach Us About Sex and Compassion? A Bonobo Perspective with Dr. Lori Gruen (S13)

Send us a text Episode 8 of the series: Sex and Animals Transcript Dr. Lori Gruen, a philosopher and scholar in animal studies. Join us as to unpack what these primates can teach us about power, intimacy, and societal structures. Guest: Lori Gruen is the William Griffin Professor of Philosophy and Professor of Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies and Science in Society at Wesleyan University where she also coordinates Wesleyan Animal Studies. Her work lies at the intersection of ethical and p...

Jun 16, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 2Ep. 124

123. Are We Turning Marine Mammals into Breeding Machines? with Dr. Lori Marino (S13)

Send us a text Episode 7 of the series: Sex and Animals Transcript Discover how captivity and artificial breeding programs impact these intelligent creatures' wellbeing and autonomy. Learn about the shift towards ethical practices. Guest: Lori Marino is a neuroscientist who has studied animal behavior, neuroanatomy, and intelligence for over thirty years. She is an adjunct professor in Animal Studies at New York University, Executive Director of The Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy and Preside...

Jun 02, 20251 hrSeason 2Ep. 123

122. What Sparks Change in Our View of Animals? PHAIR 2025 with Dr. Matti Wilks and Dr Luke Mcguire

Send us a text Special Episode: Psychology for Human Animal Intergroup relations. PHAIR 2025 Register! Transcript Guests: Dr Matti Wilks is a Lecturer in the Department of Psychology at the University of Edinburgh. She completed her PhD at the University of Queensland, Australia, and was a postdoctoral fellow at Princeton and Yale Universities. She is generally interested in morality and related things. Her research mostly focuses on the moral circle and moral development, with a particular focu...

May 26, 202548 minSeason 2Ep. 122

121. Is the Joy of Sex Common Across Species? with Dr. Jonathan Balcombe (S13)

Send us a text Episode 6 of the series: Sex and Animals Transcript Dr. Jonathan Balcombe elaborates on the nuanced distinctions between consciousness and sentience, emphasizing that emotions and feelings play crucial roles in animals' daily lives, much like in humans. Guest: Dr. Jonathan Balcombe is a biologist and ethologist whose work has reshaped how we think about animal consciousness and behavior. Born in England and raised in New Zealand and Canada, he spent decades in the U.S. before sett...

May 19, 20251 hr 2 minSeason 2Ep. 121

120. Should We Rethink Dog Neutering? Behavioral Insights from Dr. Stanley Coren (S13)

Send us a text Episode 5 of Series 13: Sex and Animals Transcript The spaying and neutering of dogs has often been a controversial topic. Along with the world renowned, Dr. Stanley Coren, the episode explores how spaying and neutering might affect canine behavior, questioning common practices and suggesting alternative approaches. Guest Bio: Stanley Coren, PhD, DSc, FRSC, is an influential voice in the study of canine behavior and human-canine interactions. He served as a psychology professor at...

May 05, 202549 minSeason 2Ep. 120

119. April Special! What Does the Future Hold for Human-Animal Studies? with Dr. Ken Shapiro

Send us a text Special Episode! " it seems to me that development could be as revolutionary as the domestication of animals itself 10, 000 years ago." - Dr. Shapiro Technology's role in animal advocacy and science takes center stage. Lab-grown meat and alternatives to animal testing, such as organs on a chip, are highlighted as transformative developments that could profoundly reduce animal exploitation. Guest Bio: Dr. Kenneth Shapiro is cofounder and President of the Board of Animals and Societ...

Apr 21, 202552 minSeason 2Ep. 119

118. What Happens When Feral Horses Use Contraception? with Dr. Cassandra Nunez (S13)

Send us a text Episode 4 of series 13: Sex and Animals Transcript Being a researcher thoroughly acquainted with the Shackleford Banks horses during her PhD, she was uniquely positioned to investigate the behavioral changes noticed by the National Park Service when they introduced contraceptive management. This intervention aimed to control the horse population to protect the island's endangered plants and animals that were being impacted by overgrazing. Guest Bio: Dr. Cassandra Nunez is interest...

Apr 07, 202559 minSeason 2Ep. 118

117. Can Feminism and Veganism Challenge Patriarchy? A Conversation with Carol J. Adams (S13)

Send us a text Episode 3 of Series 13, Sex and Animals Renowned as a feminist, vegan advocate, and author, Carol J. Adams, brings us into the intricate relationship between these movements in a fascinating conversation that reveals cultural narratives reinforcing gender norms and animal consumption. Guest Bio: Carol J. Adams is a feminist scholar and activist whose work explores the cultural construction of overlapping and interconnected oppressions, as well as the ethics of care. In December 20...

Mar 24, 202550 minSeason 2Ep. 117

116. Creative Courtship: Lessons from Animal Others with Author, Dr. Carol Gigliotti (S13)

Send us a text Episode 2 of Series 13, Sex and Animals : Transcript "Creativity is all about problem solving." - Dr. Gigliotti Guest Bio : Carola Gigliotti is an author, artist, animal activist, and scholar whose work focuses on the reality of animals’ lives as important contributors to the biodiversity of this planet. She is Professor Emerita of Design and Dynamic Media and Critical and Cultural Studies at the Emily Carr University of Design, Vancouver, BC. CANADA To connect with Carol: https:/...

Mar 10, 202541 minSeason 2Ep. 116

115. The Genitalia Arms Race! with Dr. Patty Brennan (S13)

Send us a text Episode 1 of Series 13 Transcript In this episode, Dr. Patricia Brennan explores the evolutionary battles between male and female genital adaptations, revealing how animals like ducks and dolphins develop complex reproductive strategies. Through her work, she highlights the surprising ways that nature grants females reproductive autonomy despite intense sexual conflict. Guest Bio: Dr. Patricia Brennan is an evolutionary biologist specializing in reproductive anatomy and sexual sel...

Feb 24, 202553 minSeason 2Ep. 115

114. Let's Save the Strays! with Dr. Amy Shroff (Special Episode)

Send us a text Special Episode! Transcript Dr. Amy Shroff’s work focuses on implementing sustainable solutions for managing stray animal populations globally through the TNVR method—Trap, Neuter, Vaccinate, and Release. “The goal is not just rescuing animals, but teaching communities how to manage their stray populations humanely, ensuring long-term solutions for both the animals and the people they live with.”- Dr. Amy Shroff Guest Bio: Dr. Amy Shroff is a veterinarian, founder of Let's Save th...

Feb 10, 202538 minSeason 2Ep. 114

Sex and Animals- Trailer Series 13

Send us a text In series 13 we will be covering topics from The Sexual Politics of Meat with Carol J. Adams to The Genitalia Arms Race with Dr. Patricia Brennan. This series is going to be unexpected, mind blowing, and above all, fascinating! Learn everything you didn't know you wanted to know about Sex and Animals... and possibly a little you didn't want to know as well. Series starts February 24th- follow on your podcasting listening platform, or sign up for the TDWA Newsletter at www.thedealw...

Jan 27, 202545 sec

113. The Animal Turn Crossover ...with Carol Gigliotti and Claudia Hirtenfelder (S12)

Send us a text Episode 7 of Series 12, Animals in Art and Culture Transcript A Crossover Special! This is a fascinating conversation between Claudia Hirtenfelder and Carol Gigliotti from The Animal Turn podcast. They discuss Gigliotti's groundbreaking book 'The Creative Lives of Animals ,' which explores animal creativity, cognition, and agency. Be sure to catch the previous episode with Claudia as a guest on TDWA for a round table discussion with Marika and artist, Shannon Johnstone about Banks...

Jan 13, 20251 hr 16 minSeason 2Ep. 113

112. A Very Banksy Roundtable with Claudia Hirtenfelder and Shannon Johnstone

Send us a text Episode 6 of Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript Guests: Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder began the Animal Turn in February 2020 as a culmination of her interests in animals, ethics, and media. She completed her PhD in Geography at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario. Her scholarly interests sit in the intersection of geography, urban studies, animal studies, history and power relations. Claudia is the founder and former host of Beyond Canada: International Thought and ...

Dec 30, 20241 hrSeason 2Ep. 112

111. December Special! What a Chicken Knows...with Author, Sy Montgomery

Send us a text A delightful exploration of chickens as intelligent and complex creatures, prompting us to reconsider our perceptions of these common animals. December Special! with Author Sy Montgomery Transcript Guest: Sy Montgomery is a celebrated naturalist, author, and adventurer whose work has taken her to some of the wildest places on Earth. The Boston Globe described her as "Part Indiana Jones and Part Emily Dickenson". With 38 books to her name, including The Soul of an Octopus, The Good...

Dec 16, 202454 minSeason 2Ep. 111

110. Are Children's Stories the Key to Animal Empathy? with Children's Entertainer, Sukey Molloy (S12)

Send us a text Episode 5 of Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript Sukey Molloy, an acclaimed children's performer and author. We delve into Sukey's work, particularly focusing on her storytelling album, 'The Adventures of Little Stubby,' which features a miniature donkey named Stubby. Sukey discusses her inspiration from real-life rescue stories and her goal to help young children navigate their emotions through animal characters. Guest : Trained as a professional modern dancer in New...

Dec 02, 202443 minSeason 2Ep. 110

109. How Do Aboriginal and Bengali Stories Shape Cultural Understanding of Nature? with Dipanwita Pal, PhD. (S12)

Send us a text Episode 4 of Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript What can Aboriginal and Bengali literature teach us about our connection with nature? Join Dr. Dipanwita Pal on our podcast as she shares her fascinating research into these cultural narratives. This episode is a compelling look into how stories reflect and influence our relationships with the animal world. Tune in for an enlightening discussion! Guest: Dr Dipanwita Pal is an Associate Professor in English at Galsi Maha...

Nov 18, 202449 minSeason 2Ep. 109

108. Where Imagery and Poetry Meet with Gordon Meade (S12)

Send us a text Episode 3 of Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript We discuss the emotional depth and significance of Meade's collaborations with artists and photographers, highlighting themes of animal welfare and exploitation. Guest: Gordon Meade is a Scottish poet, based in the East Neuk of Fife. He is the author of twelve collections of poetry including, most recently,EX-Posed: Animal Elegies (Lantern Publishing & Media 2023), In Transit (Enthusiastic Press 2022) and Zoospeak (...

Nov 04, 202431 minSeason 2Ep. 108

107. October Special! Ghost Dogs and The Anthropology of Paranormal Pets with Researcher and Author, Jen Golbeck

Send us a text " If you see the ghost of your dog, it can make you better and that should be okay. It shouldn't be something that we say is a problem." - Jen Golbeck October Special! Transcript Dive into the world of supernatural pet encounters, as we discuss the psychological and anthropological perspectives on ghostly visits from deceased pets. The conversation explores the complexities of grief, especially disenfranchised grief, and the comfort people find in these encounters. This episode al...

Oct 21, 202432 minSeason 2Ep. 107

106. How Can Poetry Drive Change for National Animal Rights Day with Natasha Matsaert and Julie Knopp (S12)

Send us a text "If there's anything that will make people think twice and reflect it would be have stories and poems like this." - Natasha Matsaert Ep 2, series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript The episode features poetry and insights from a writing workshop, aimed at fostering empathetic connections and motivating change. The discussion centers around the power of poetry and art in animal advocacy, particularly highlighting the National Animal Rights Day event. They explore how stories...

Oct 07, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 2Ep. 106

105. What Can Animals Tell Us About Ancient Egypt? with PhD, Linda Evans (S12: Animals in Art and Culture)

Send us a text "Yeah, what is the deal with animals? I think, mulling this over, and what I keep coming back to in my mind is they are magic made manifest." -Linda Evans, PhD. Part 1, Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript In the captivating premiere of 'The Deal with Animals' Season 2. Discover how animals were depicted in Egyptian art, their cultural significance, and insights into animal behavior reflected through ancient tomb and temple scenes. Don't forget to participate in the Wo...

Sep 23, 20241 hr 4 minSeason 2Ep. 105

Series Twelve Trailer- Animals in Art and Culture

Send us a text In Series Twelve of The Deal with Animals, we're exploring the way art and culture changes and reflects the way we understand and connect with other animals. From ancient cave paintings to modern street art, animals have always held a special place in our creative expression. But it's not just about the art. It's about the stories, the symbolism, and the connections that shape our world. Join me and a lineup of incredible guests as we explore the animal side of art, uncovering the...

Sep 16, 20242 min

104. Exploring Hinduism, Dairy & Mother Cow with Yamini Narayanan (Featured Ep.66/S7)

Send us a text The sacred status of the cow is so widespread, so institutionalized, so deeply entrenched in Hindu culture, that it is actually quite a central question about the whole notion of Hinduism identity and cows. - Yamini Narayanan Episode 3 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine ⁠Transcript⁠ In this amazing episode we talk about the place of cows -or more pertinently, dairy - in the Hindu religion. It raises the question: what does it mean to treat an animal as sacred versus treating an a...

Sep 11, 20241 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 66

Season Two: Trailer and Updates!

Send us a text Vote now for The Deal with Animals and Marika, for the Women in Podcasting Awards! Category: Pets and Other Animal Podcasts https://www.womenpodcasters.com/vote Show your Love and Support to the Animals of Hawai'i- Donate to Maui Humane Society through August 31st! http://mauihumanesociety.org/tdwapodcast Support the show Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read the Blog! (Guest profiles, book recommendations, trailers and more!) What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal We...

Aug 12, 20244 min

103. The 101st Step (S11: Animal of the Maui Wildfires)

Send us a text Episode 4/4 Series 11 Animals of The Maui Wildfires Transcript Welcome to the 103rd episode of The Deal with Animals AND the last episode of Season One. In episode 3/4 we heard stories of survival and reunification of the animals lost in the fires. Then we delved into the question of why access to the burn zone to save more animals was suddenly denied. In this episode we delve into the ongoing housing crisis for Lahaina's community post-wildfire, we explore the roles of trapping, ...

Jul 15, 202450 minSeason 1Ep. 103

102. Our Kuleana (S11: Animals of the Maui Wildfires)

Send us a text Episode 3/4 Series 11 Animals of The Maui Wildfires Transcript Welcome to the 102nd episode of The Deal with Animals. In the last episode we followed the stories of five staff members at Maui Humane Society and we heard about the efforts of the MHS team the first days after the fire. Moani, humane resource officer, shared her emotional journey through Lahaina's burn zone and the coordination between multiple organizations that rallied to help Maui's Animals. In this episode we hea...

Jul 08, 20241 hrSeason 1Ep. 102

101. Burn Zone (S11: Animals of the Maui Wildfires)

Send us a text Episode 2/4 Series 11 Animals of The Maui Wildfires Transcript Welcome to the 101st episode of The Deal with Animals. In the last episode we met five staff members at Maui Humane Society and we learned about the animal community of Maui and their relationship to MHS. Moani, humane resource officer, walked us through the start of her journey into the burn zone of Lahaina to search for animals in need...and her parents. Please take a moment now and visit Donate to Maui Humane Societ...

Jul 01, 202449 minSeason 1Ep. 101

100. The Spark (S11: Animals of the Maui Wildfires)

Send us a text Episode 1/4 Series 11 Animals of The Maui Wildfires Transcript Welcome to the 100th episode of The Deal with Animals. I am so pleased to bring you this "something more" episode of TDWA. With the help of Audio Engineer, John Lasala, we have been able to bring you this four-part story of the days and weeks after the devastating wildfires in Maui in 2023, from the perspective of five staff members of Maui Humane Society. Please take a moment now and visit Donate to Maui Humane Societ...

Jun 24, 202445 minSeason 1Ep. 100

Animals of the Maui Wildfires Trailer Series 11

Send us a text Series Eleven will cover episodes 100-104 and finish of the first season of The Deal with Animals. To find out more about Maui Humane Society and to make a donation towards the TDWA/MHS collaborative fundraiser ... In this series we follow five staff members of Maui Humane Society as they experience the August 2023 wildfires on Maui and the extraordinary efforts of the Maui Humane Society staff in the devastating aftermath. Through personal stories of rescue and recovery. The five...

Jun 10, 20244 min
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