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perversion and blasphemy. But it's an overall comprehensive take on the history of the Olympics, the ancient history of it, as well as how being used to push the New World Order and many other things. So joining us now, and of course I'll only tell you where you can find him at Frontline Mission SA dot org. Doctor Peter Hammond. Thank you for joining us, sir, Thank you so much.

to have a tolerance and inclusion. And interestingly, at first they said, no, it wasn't meant to be a parody of the Lord's Supper based on Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. No, it was actually meant to be some pagan festival with Dionysius. And yet for a remarkable resemblance to Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. And the press received on the program that

this would be the last supper. In fact, even since and press releases beforehand, the programs distributed to the people on the banks of the Seine River, this was that section of the procession of the opening ceremony was going to be the last supper.

lot of people have done parodies of it. But the thing that was interesting about this one and so offensive, was the fact that they combined a parody with the bauchery and your take on it was interesting because you talked about the subtext to the fact that it was Dionysius or Bacchanalia and talk about that the wine aspect of it.

Greek gods. We grateful that they don't sacrifice hundreds of animals and engage in animal cruelty at the beginning of the Olympics, which they used to.

not trying to mock Leonardo da Vinci the artists. They're trying to mock the Lord's Supper, because the Lord's supper symbolizes I mean, this is where the community service was an augrets and the Lost Supper before our Lord was portrayed and crucified, the body of the Lord symbolized by the bread his body will be broken for us, and the wine symbolic of his blood shed. Bruce, this is

at the heart of our salvation. And now in this Olympic ceremony, opening ceremony, which of course cuts millions of yours, put together that this is a massive operation. And you have the Greek god Dionysius, who is the god of wine and the god of the pauchery, lying on the table where the bread and the wine should be.

which is at the heart of the Illuminati. For example, Sabatanism, which started in sixteen sixty six through sabatae Zebbi, which is obviously the religion of many of the elites in Hollywood and government today.

and it's got almost a religious significance. They really do worship their sin. They celebrate this and they love this, and that is obviously the religion of many of the elites in the world today. Bear in mind that despite the huge amounts of outrage around the world the French Church, outraged Christians around the world, outrage and even Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Speaker of the House of the Years, House of Representatives saying this is disgusting, this

is shameful, this is outrageous. And yet the French present from Macron, he comes up and says, we're proud of this, and this ceremony is about who we are as frenchmen. And the Mayor of Paris also said that they out of this and this is wonderfulness. Represents who they are, you know, blasphemous drunkards and anti Christian pagans.

absolutely gross, disgusting, bizarre freak show and transvestites and perverts and a whole LGBT crowd. They're not celebrating tolerance for all kinds of religious beliefs. They're celebrating only one kind of religious repeting. That's LGBTQ and the whole perverted brunch and the trans crowds. This is what was being promoted there, and this is what the French president and French mayor of Paris claims they're proud of, and this is about

who we are. And they paid millions of euros to put together this whole event, which by the way, it's got more than that obviously, attacking the heart of our salvation. The salvation of Christ is very bad. But they all said, the pale writer of Revelation going writing down the Seine carrying the Olympic banner, and you know, the pale writer

Hell follows off to him. And you can also think of the golden cough that's up on the platform with the Olympic rings, so that why would you choose a golden cough?

level as well as the International Olympic Committee level. And so that they've got all these bizarre things, including a figure of Mary Antoinette walking around the capitation with their head under arm, which is not even funny.

bless you? Is that really what they are about, is this epitomiz in the new world order and the powers that should not be I think it is.

to remain. That's going to be part of the infrastructure to create more surveillance, more of a police state. And so it is really pushing us into that new world order, isn't it?

watch these opening events. So this isn't somebody offended somebody at a school play. This is the biggest global event and the New World auto craft cannot help. They cannot resist the opportunity to promote their religion. I mean considered, if you or I were invited to speak at any major event, no matter where it is, we would inject our faith. I couldn't help you do it doesn't matter where I'm invited. I've been university's army basis, I've been

in Muslim terror camps. I've been in Communists events, I've been in cults, churches, Mormons, service witnesses and others. At every occasion, I've brought in the Gospel. I can't help it. That's who I am, and I've got my message and I'll bring it in well. The International Olympic Committee chose a well known LGBTQ activist just into the trance movement and so on, to put together this whole debauchery on

the Sane River. As some people said, this was insane because the name of the river is the same river. So what you saw was an insane opening ceremony to the Paris Olympics. And the whole ceremony was done on the same river.

do a lot of litten pollution. If it cost that much to clean up the river, I mean, I would have thought a million year could have done the job.

egiants to Zeus. And there was a procession which involved taking the sacred fire the embers up to the temple of Zeus, and the priests carried the embers up and they put the fire in, which is now symbolized by the Olympic torch coming and lightsing, and that the torch has to start in Athens. It's all very symbolic ands on and so this is all pagan worship. And then they sacrificed a hundred bulls. There's a lot of animal

sacrifice before, during, and after every Olympic game. So every single Olympic winner had to sacrifice after their winnings to the Temple of Zeus. And by the way, one of the rewards for the Olympic athletes who won was prostitutes from the temple of Aphrodites, meant to the goddess of Love, so of course are like goddess had lust. But the original Olympics were exceedingly pagan, lots of religious activities and for the Olympics Committee today to say we have strict neutrality,

there's nothing religious. Well, what do you call worshiping Zeus and Eers and Dionysius and all these other things? Are they not religious? And I think when I say non religious, what they mean is non Christian because they're certainly not

non religious. That is just not true. And so the original Olympics were exceedingly violent, by the way, not only with the killing of animals for sacrifices before the Olympics and after its and after every match, but there were One of the Olympic sports was pentachron and that was where you could use anything from choke holds, dislocations of arms, breaking of burns, one of the fact there was really

almost no rules. And the one of the famous athletes, that is he was specialized in thrusting his fingers into person's abdomen and ripping us in testins. Another one of their contestants specialist breaking fingers, and so that was one of the sports. The four horse chariot racers were famous, exceedingly popular, you know, think Ben her But these chariot

racers involved gory pile ups. People were often disfigured beyond recognition you know, very gory with people charing these things on, so that Olympics were really bloody Olympics, and not just violent to the poor animals who are sacrificed, but violent to the contestants. And by the way, the contestants had to compete completely naked. Of course, only men were allowed to participates. Women were not allowed if they were married.

Married women were not allowed in the stands, and they'd risked the death penalty like being thrown off the nearby cliffs head first if they attended in the stands. But single women could attend, and prostitutes from the temple of Afroidaiti were part of the rewards for winning athletes. So, you know, the original Olympics. But I don't know why we couldn't have launched an international sports event that wasn't rooted in ancient Greek paganism and was such a trickered past.

So I feel a little bit of a traitor to speak like this, but we are not against sports. Of course, Christians are not anti sports per se. We're against idology and paganism. But the Bible does have a lot of athletic terms. So we read in the Bible about running the race and keeping the faith.

We can learn from sports. And I remember being brought up in school in Rhodesia, where sports would taught us as to teach us how to be team players, to teach us how to play according to the rules, to be gracious winners, to be gracious losers, to play the game for the sake of doing it right. And so in some ways they said sports was preparing us for life. Other times they said sports was preparing us for war. Were told by some teachers, war is the real thing.

Sports is just the practice, you know, where when you learn some of the skills that you're going to use in the battlefield, you learn on a sports field. And so I'm not against sports, but the Olympics have become absolutely debauched in pagan and the hostility to Christianity is subject you can understand why so many people, including Elon Musk and Hobby Lobby and others have said they're boycotting

the Olympics, withdrawing advertising. And even after all this protest, you still have them the French present saying he's proud of this and this is what beyond, this is what we are as Frenchmen, as Parisians, and well it shows you they are so committed to their pagan religion that these powers that should not be the globalists are willing to alienate a lot of people, a lot of sponsors. It's not financially viable to do this. I don't know if you've noticed, but the stands are often empty and

they are having trouble selling tickets to the Olympics. People are not filling the stands, people are boycotting, many are board out of their mind or disgusted. And so the Parasalympics have had the lowest attendants ever. They've never had such such bad attendants. And of course that's excluding the COVID cults lockdown lunacy of the Tokyo Olympics, which was postponed a here and then they stow it didn't allow

spectators in the stands. It all had to be remokely, which that's going to be one of the most dull DoD.

content march on the country's flag. Now, I find this interesting because throughout the entire Cold War, the Soviet Union was never excluded, even while they were oppressing and tormenting and murdering millions of their own citizens, and even while there so.

kind of interesting. But at the same time as the Soviet Union and Red China were watching in the Olympics with their red flags or their stars and hamazon sickles and so on, we and Rhodesia and South Afka were being boycotted from the Olympics. We couldn't take part because we were fighting for our lass against the same communist terrorism that the Soviet Union was sponsoring worldwide.

When people can compete and meet with and interact with people of other nations that might be their political enemies, it is a good thing for the country. That's why we have student exchange programs and sports teams going across the world is a lot better than sending armies and bombers.

growing up because were in Rodisia. We're having a the million airline is shot down by Soviet Austrello missiles, heat seeking missiles, and the Samava has been cooked and eaten. I mean, for goodness sakes, what kind of a trustees And this sort of thing was going on in the seventies and re leasally couldn't go to the Olympics, but the Soviet Union could, so I must say I despised the International Olympic Committee's hypocrisy. You know, every kind of

sin is bad, but the hypocrisy really offends God. And you can just read Mettic three to see what the Lord Jesus thinks of hypocrites, his speech against the scribes

and Pharisees hypocrites all. And the committee is shocking in its hypocrisy, and the French government is discussing in a hypocrisy too, And for them to pretend that, you know, we're neutral when it comes to religion, and that note we never intended to offend anyone, and even light saying this wasn't meant to be based on the the leoodis aventual depiction of the last support, But people who participated in it said they knew that there were emulating the

parading Leonardo da Vinci's iconic depiction of the Lord's upper and it was even on the program.

also with East Germany. You know, that was also a big part, and they weren't even total it up, you know, the countries behind the Iron Curtain versus the free countries, and here's how we're competing with medals and that type of thing. So it's always been a big nationalistic thing like that. It was always about the communists. But you're that's a very interesting point. They would allow the Communists to compete for that, but then when you were fighting

the Communists they excluded you. Now you made a point about why don't we celebrate the heritage of life and liberty that have been the fruit of Christianity.

violence back lash as they try to death. I mean, can you mention anyone trying to have ridiculing Muhammed or Islam in the opening of the Olympics.

paints and blue. Yeah, it looks some people said it looks like the Smith. What on earth is this depiction? It's well, you know why he's blue as feces did. I mean it's a depiction as well. This is a did god, this Dynasius. But he symbolizes wine. I mean he's drunk himself to death basically. And this is where we should focus our visions of salvation, salvation incense, salvation through sin, not salvation from sin. We don't celebrate salvation,

we celebrate sin. And this is what France and the EU and the New World Order actually do represent.

At the very opening ceremony, they replaced it was supposed to be a man and a woman hold jointly holding a torch. Well they replace the woman with a tranny, and then they have some intersex guys who are beating up women and that sort of thing. But it is very misogynistic, and so the question is, you know, not only are they celebrating this culture that is pagan and debauched and everything, but it's also a very anti woman and you know, that culture of that religion, and that's

supposed to be that another aspect of hypocrisy. They always claim they're for women, and yet when you look at this, it is very very anti women.

a slave. Well, it was Christianity that abolished slavery, so the only culture that has abolished slavery, and slavery still exists in Muslim countries and that sort of thing to this day. But we also Christians abolished and fanticide, which these same people are bringing back. And then on the other side, Christians creating hospitals, libraries, universities, and colleges. These are the types of things that you know, it is

anithetical to what they're doing, and yet they celebrate. We look at those things and we said, well, those are all good things. To save the babies and to recognize that women are equal to men before God. We have different roles, but they are equal in the side of God. That was a very radical change for the pagan world, wasn't it.

freely with open face in Roman and Athens and Sombers. Actually, no woman was allowed to walk around on their own in the ancient Roman and Athens. They had to go under male guardianship, even if it was a male slave. But a woman, even a free woman, a princess, couldn't walk around on her own. She didn't have that freedom. She always was under male control. They weren't allowed to even attend meals and own home without special permission. They were just meant to be busting around the kitchen and

serving and that to be in their quarters. And there was such a lot of abusive women. Women couldn't walk sided with ut baring a veil. And this you wouldn't notice from the Hollywood films, because which actress wants to walk arounder the face obscured in these movies. But you know, if they were taking the ancient Rome or ancient Greece streets, they wouldn't have had these women walking around with their

head and hair and face uncovered. They were compelled to be covered by law, they could get the death penalty for not bearing a veil, and you think that's only Islamic. That's the way the whole world was. Greek Romans before Christianity. Christianity deliberately worked to free women on every level. And just think of how the Gospel, the message of the Resurrection was first proclaimed by a woman. The first convert

in Europe was a woman, Lidia. And you think how Mary Magnil was the first at the two men, the first to proclaim the resurrection. And Christianity gave women worth and respect that had never existed before. And only Christianity brought an into slavery. To think every practice slavery and human sacrificed, even to Rome and Greece, which is so well thought of. They were sacrificing not only strangers and slaves,

even sacrificing their own children or wives on occasion. You think of how Agamen sacrifices and daughter at the beginning of the siege on Troy and in order to bring victory and favorable waves.

centrality of plus. We haven't built our dating system on the birth of Julius Caesar, or Muhammad or anyone else.

Paras Olympics twenty twenty four tests fast to Christ. Every atheist, pagan and blasphema tests fast to the centransit of chrust when a rite to date, and even the fact that we have a seven day week is because of the acts of creation. God created the world in six days in the rest in the seventies. The very name restaurant, it first came from Paris, and it came from the scripture Matthew eleven twenty eight, coming to me, all you're very in heavy light, and I will give you rest.

The whole scripture is put on the outside of the first establishment for easy in a pleasant environment. And over the years they shortened it to restaurant, which of course it's all the French. But the very term restaurant tests for us to this came from Christianity. And there's so many things that in our society we take for granted, like if you say goodbye, it comes from the older English, God be with you. That's why the spelling is so you know, it's an English prayer, God go with you.

And in fact, if you go to Austria today they greet you with bruesport or greetings in God. In Switzerland' abbreviate to Gritsy and so again again you can see Christianity is throughout our Western societies and they're forgetting it. In fact, they're not forgetting it, they deliberately trying to obscure it and denigrate it and replace it with debauchery. There's a consistent effort in Europe, especially by the EU.

thing people. Here's the key, and this is what I liked about your essay. If you go back and you look at the original Pagan Olympics, it tells you so much about their society. And if we look at that and what the elites are pushing towards, pushing us towards, we can see what they admire, and we can see that what they want to do is take us back to that kind of a situation where there's a few people running everything and the rest of us are poor

and slaves and living in mud huts. That really is what they're doing, and of course exercising that against a lot of the athletes in terms of removing their air conditioning, removing meat for the most part, having them sleeping on cardboard beds, and all the rest of this stuff. They want austerity, they want slavery, and that's what we're going

to get with this kind of pagan society. So I think it is very interesting to go back and look at what these people admire and what they worship and the kind of society that they want to take us into. An I think that is all there to some degree in the Olympics.

is the first servant. And you've got cabinet ministers who used to sign the letters to your humble servants. This comes from Jesus teaching that the lords of the gentiles, they lorded over them, and they call themselves benefactors. But it is not to be like that. With you the greatest amongst, you must be like the least, and like the youngest. You should be the servant of all. And so Jesus taught servant leadership, and he modeled servant leadership.

I mean, the Lord got on his knees, took a towel and cleaned the feet of his servants when his disciples when people walking with sandals through streets that were dusty and dirty and filthy, and you know donkeys and horses walking around, and you can imagine it would have been a dirty job to clean people's feet when they

came into the house. You'd normally leave your sandals at the door, but now you're sitting on couches for eating, so you know that one person says close to that person's feet, and they want to have clean feet, especially for the meal time, the lorst lasts supper. The Lord does the humblest task. And this is this is the leadership of a Christian. The Christian leader leads from the front,

He leads by example, and he serves. And that is even a Christian concept that we don't have big chiefs emperors who you know, cost the instructions and like the pope who expects people to kiss his toes and things like that. No, Christian leadership is servant leadership, where we care for the people. You do it as under the least of these you've done to me. And so why would Christianity not be respected and why would people not

be grateful to it? But no, at the Olympics, they're choosing every single Olympics to celebrate the pagan religions which all abused women, were involved in, animal cruelty, human sacrifices, occultism and paganism. Why would they want to replace Christianity with paganism? And you know who if today wants to say I think slavery is a good thing, I think abusive women is a good thing, Well they might think it,

but they're not going to easily say it. But they want to celebrate and lift up that which is pro slavery and pro debauchery and paganism and abusive woman. And that shows you, as you said earlier, that's the hidden goal. They must like that. You wouldn't be lifting up and worshiping it if you don't think it's good and a model. And what if you want for the future you I'm not going to spend in some cases one hundred one hundred million pounds or one hundred million euros on opening

ceremonies if it wasn't presenting the message you want. I wouldn't spend a dime on a printing job or any project that didn't draw offy price and present the Solar scripture a personal beliefs that are at the hearts of my faith. And I can begt that these pagans are not going to be putting one hundred million euros into

something that that don't wholeheartedly agree with. And just like I proof read every single line in letter over and over before I give the authorization for the printer to go ahead with the print job I want done, there's no way that these powers that be didn't approve everything of this Olympic before. Somebody thought of this golden cough. Somebody thought of this pale writer. Somebody thought of a decaptured Mary Internet walking around with her head under arm,

and things like this. Somebody thought of let's put some trans women in the place of Jesus, and let's put a bunch of freaks in LGBTQ bearded women, and things like this. With a child, my dear. I mean, what's a drag queen without a child in this last subject? And somebody thought to this, and everybody signed off for us. The President of France, the Mayor of Paris, probably the whole City Council, the whole IOC, the must have all

approved us ahead of time. It wouldn't have gone ahead without their approval, all the way up to national and international. So this what they're telling us is, this is what we believe, is what we stand for. This is what we want, which includes nothing but contempt for Christianity, not even an acknowledgment of Christianity, as depicted in the Notre Dame and the Notre Dame cathedral.

we had examined the evidence. And yet the Paris fire department and police department not allowed to investigate. They were just told that and the president said, we've ruled out Arsen. That was a year where there were a thousand two hundred attacks on churches in France in one year, a thousand two hundred, and that's churches desecrated, bond burned, damage in different ways, all by Muslim je artists, but not to damn the most iconic picture of Paris, the greatest

architectural masterpiece in France. That was definitely not Arsen, I said the present. So they just could not afford to allow people to see this is the fruit of our multiculturalism, bringing people hate Christianity and so on. And they had spaces of arson attack it yet and that just does not to them. You can't even look there. For us, it's not awesome, ruled out. The fireman was still fighting the fire, the fires were still blazing, and Chris McConn really put it down, this is not awesome.

don't want any of that morality. They don't want Christ at the center of this. And we can see if we look back where this is all taking us in the future, if we go down that dark path. It's great talking to you and very insightful. I really enjoyed listening to you. And let me give your website again. And is it mission plural or mission singular? Frontline mission?

Miss bookland mission is a okay, frontline mission s A dot org is where people can go to find your books that you have there as well as to keep up with the busy life and ministry that you've got going there in South Africa. And it truly is amazing all the different places that you have gone uh in hostile areas that you have gone in terms of Marxists as well as Muslims, and the different areas and amazing stories that you've got about how God has taken his

word in different places. And so I really do appreciate your faithfulness and fearlessness and putting that out there and taking it into these dark areas. We just have to make sure that we keep the lights on here at home as well.

that people are praying for a biblical return. We need it back to the Bible Reformation. We need a heaven send holy Spirit and powered revival.

that transprigents. We need dedicated servants of God, and we need the foot soldiers on the ground too, winning neighbors, friends and families to Christ. We've got to work very vigorously because our whole civilization is in danger of falling to chaos and paganism. We don't want ad age of paganism. We want to go further into the future in the

lights of Christ. And I think you've just seen in Paris some of the darkness, including a full on blackout across the whole city of Paris the day after the mocking of Christ at the insane opening Cerebonies.

take it back from the bottom up. We take it back with our relationship with Christ, our family's relationship with Christ. Frontline missionsa dot Org. Thank you so much, Peter Hamman appreciate it.

They don't want you to pray. We will pray. So the thing is whatever the state and the globalist new world order in Hollywood's telling you to do do the opposites. And that's a pretty good rule of something.

smear poop on a balloon. I think smearing poop on a balloon is why you potty train them. How to teach wiping during potty training, the AI says, make it fun. You can try a balloon bathroom activity where you put a little poo on a balloon and then tape it to a chair. Have your child practice reaching around to wipe the balloon. Well, this may be a excrement hits the fan scenario. That thing pops right the idea, And

where did it get this idea? It looked at a video that's out there that is one of the high ranking videos, and what the person was doing was they were showing shaving cream or they were showing peanut butter or something like that. I mean, put this on the balloon and teach your kid about wiping, you know, using this Pooh you know, quote unquote Pooh. Well AI didn't get the fact that that was not actually Pooh, first of all. Secondly, I don't know who came up with

this kind of crazy idea anyway. I mean, do you really need to you really need to model wiping by putting I don't think you're gonna need to do this, Dravis. I'm not giving you any parenting tips here, but I except I would say, this is absolutely not the way it has been taught for many, many generations. If you do this and it worked out for you, that's fine. Don't write meaning letters. I don't want to know. But they emphasized shaving cream or peanut butter. But Google AI

did not get that memo. So when we asked Google point blank whether it was a good idea to wipe poop on a balloon. It said yes, and then it broke down the balloon method in detail, telling us that we should use a little bit of poop, start with a small amount of poop, yeah, and then you can build up two big amounts of poop until it pops. And so again, it came from it's misunderstanding. But those

are the that's what we should have making decisions. And in Nevada they've always California grabbing nuisance, wants to do it for a lot of different departments. But in Nevada they've already started putting AI in charge of deciding whether or not somebody should be able to get unemployment benefits and paid Google. The same people are telling you to put poop on a balloon. They got these wonderful experts with their science, you know, the science like PCR stuff

and everything. And here's the problem, these kind of decisions. As they bring in artificial intelligence into government, into banking, into you know, rental property owns, AI is going to rapidly be seen as unchallengeable because hey, it's an expert, it's the computer, it's science, right, it's all. And fifty years ago they were telling people don't trust this simply because you got a computer print out, garbage in, garbage out, just because somebody did a computer model or a program

that does make it right. This does not have some special anointing from God because it's a computer print out, you know, with somebody who put that in for as a human who put that in there, and they all humans are putting all kinds of bias and nonsense into the AI stuff as well. But nevertheless, that memo, just like the usual poop on the balloon, the fact that you don't give real credibility to these computer print outs,

that's somehow been lost on people. That's harder to understand than the fact that the AI would think that it was real poop on the balloon. People think that this is real truth because it came out of a computer.

All right, welcome back and joining us now is Jay Warner Wallace. He's been a guest once before. We've talked about his background. He was a cold case detective. This is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases, things that don't have a statud limitations, murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died and he's just going back

looking at the physical evidence of it. He's now written a book called The Truth and True Crime, and I love the tagline here, when investigating death teaches us about the meaning of life. It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to get him on to talk about that one as well.

And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? Now, once I was in I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently. Right, if you work murders, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the kind of bars are off.

I mean, this is Sadly, when you get to the point where you're willing to do something crazy like this, it's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed, and it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature.

So I wanted to write a book that has talked about like, what are these attributes fifteen attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in fifteen separate crime stories, and then talk about you know, is that something number one that Yeah, secular people, they do studies on this and they confirmed that this is these are fifteen things that if you simply embrace these fifteen principles you will have

a better life. But it turns out these are fifteen ancient descriptions of human nature from scripture that people, for the most part, think they're discovering them. In the last three three decades, when in fact, these have been on the pages of the New Testament for two thousand years. And so I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated.

a raw and so I bought my first Bible. I was thirty five, and it took me a while to kind of go through the Gospels, and I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all the attributes. I wrote about this in a book called Cold Case Christianity, and that book just kind of covers that journey. But that's something that'll get you to the

point where you might believe it's true. Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, I have a high value for whether something is true or not, and there are people in my generation would probably agree, But I don't know that that's the case for young people Gen Z and millennials. I think they're not as concerned about whether something's true because they've co opted that word that war doesn't mean it's true anymore. It means it's true for me.

traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians. So I wanted to show that, Yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching if you're flourishing, and the more you detach from its teaching, the more you're going to struggle. So I just look, this is what we're seeing in culture, And so I wrote a book this time which really looks at all of the data. So most of my books I spent

a lot of time researching. And although this book has about fifty pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are two hundred pages in the PDF file we provide online. Why because I want you to see that if I'm making this claim, it's supported by the data. But it turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture two thousand years ago. So it's eye opening for me to realize that our human It makes sense though.

Think about it. If we are designed by a creator God who knows something about us, and we are in his image, then it turns out that that book we have called Scripture called the Bible, ought to describe us the way we really are. Yes, And if it does describe us the way we really are, you could consider that at least I was listening to a pundit who usually talks about politics recently, who's Jewish, and when asked when he defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because

it turns out that these principles work. M Oh, that's interesting, and he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true. Okay, And by the way, that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true. But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, it ought to describe you the way you really are. And so in that sense, it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish.

how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is. And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think it's just it's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore. I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this, even think about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC or CBS that used to be or Salem right whatever the radio station was that used to be the gate cape keepers that kept people from becoming

a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us, if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support. And that's where I think we have to be careful. It turns out the one of the most powerful attributes that we could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health,

physical health, the deepness of your relationships. That will improve your marriage. I'll make you a better employer, a better employee. You'll learn at a higher level, you'll get better grades, you'll make more money. I mean, every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing, and it's really the opposite of celebrity. It is the

attribute we know as humility. Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us, and why that might be true. Okay, fine, but it turns out that humility is one of those.

I think if I ask people, hey, what do you think the one attribute you could adopt that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else, I don't think many people would come up with humility. Yeah, but it turns out, yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace. Now, what's interesting about that. Think about every worldview that's out there,

None of them leverage humility, like the Christian worldview. What I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview, encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe.

There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system, because at some point you're going to look across the room and say, I'm doing better than that did. We measure based on our achievements, right. And I have a friend who's now no longer with this name, Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of

events together, and he used to always tease Hey. Ill writ in this book how to become a humble in ten easy steps and how I made it in eight You know, it's like this, there's no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So it turns out that humility is something you It's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God. Now Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no,

it's not a transaction. There's nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, we're going to give it to you. It's a free gift over here. Why so that Paul says, no one can boast. It's an antidote to pride and celebrity. It's an antidote to look what I did is look

what's been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility, because to say that, Okay, there is God and it's not me, well, it's a very humble position. I'm not the God of my own I'm not the center of my own decision making universe. Well, this begins and ends in our savior, says Pulses, have the attitude that Jesus had, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself taking the form

of a bond servant, taking the form. In other words, it's all humility start to finish, And as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, we'll never even try to submit, will never even begin to let go of the things that possess us. So I just want to spend one chapter in these fifteen chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you're going to, every crime you're going to commit, is driven

by different chapter. But these three prideful motives, it's the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power. Now, that pursuit of power, that's a huge category of misbehavior, and that's where celebrity fits all of us. Look, you and I both would we like more people to

listen to what we're saying. Of course we would. So although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex, knowing that that can derail us, we don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life. So we can We'll argue, oh, because I want to reach more people with this divine message. Really,

so we will increase the celebrity. Now, now here's the danger in it, and this is a different chapter, But there's a danger in this. I have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior, and there are only three. There's not a fourth motive. There isn't. Now you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you can discover this on the pages of Scripture because John

writes about it in one of his letters. But the point is, those are only three motives out there for stupid, and if you don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now here's what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two because the other two become available to you on the basis of what you've achieved in the third. So you see this, and even Christian leaders right where they fall

for someone. Why, Well, here's why, in my opinion, is because as a congregation, or as your deacon board or your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so they can build a bigger church. And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the

door to the other two. So this is why I've struggled with this even in writing this book, because as I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this because it turns out all of this talking about a book you've written is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence in culture. And that's I think there's a good by the way. All three of these things have been designed by God for his glory and for

our good. We just happened to distort them. So sex, money, in power is something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives? What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet They called him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus and he was as

sweet as Santa Claus. And what does he offer in terms of sex, money, or power that would be worthy of killing him? Well, here's what happens is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God instead of on the God who gave him to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship. And we all worship. Everyone worships, whether you're a believer

or not. There is something that you think as of utmost importance that you dare not take that from me, because that's the thing that I covet and this idolatry is what causes us. So in this particular case, this poor guy had had slipped over. They were he was recycling stuff.

And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was what pennies dollars, maybe it was enough. So he confronted this guy. He confronted the Santa Claus and said, don't be doing that anymore at a recycling center, and Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, it turned out in that one moment he had triggered the two of the three things. Number One, he had disrespected him. So the idea of power, authority, respect. That's

in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers two taking pennies or dollars. But because I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. I've now turned them into idols. You are not try to destroy my idols. And that night he stabbed him too death over virtually nothing. This is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it's not just people you work and working homicides, it's all

of us. And so on that chapter. What I try to do in every chapter is show you, hey, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a way for you to address it. And in this chapter, I just ask fifteen questions, like what you want to know what your idols are? Because we all have them, Well, ask these fifteen questions and you probably identify them. And then once you've identified him, we can start to actually think, Okay, look, it's something that God has created it rather than the

God who created it. We simply have to transfer our worship up one levels, just from the level where we're stopped in God's creation and back to the creator and so it's something that if you you do it, you will flourish. Will you will not Number one, you'll protect yourself from stupid and number two, you'll actually start to pursue the things that contribute to a meaningful life.

everything I've got in my life I achieved that. Yes, I am the reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've ever possessed. Okay, if that's your view. You well, that kind of pride is it doesn't lead any more positive. That's right, because anytime anyone challenges that

that might not be the case, you're now offended. And so it turns out that whatever it is we've worshiped that becomes the master, the Master that you dare not question, the Master that I'm now willing to give up tons of time for resources for.

in what it is we've achieved. So if I asked, you know, who are you David, Well, You're going to say I'm the host of the show. If you said, who are you Jim, Well, I'm a cold case detective.

I have purpose in? That's who I am? Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose, because that's the problem, because there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you're good at, because it's about

what you're good at. Yes, so this is and it's the biggest, one single move that leads to contentment, is to reform your identity not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive from a holy God.

and it truly is amazing. And they would have as they bring the body into there, up they would knock and the person inside would say who goes there? And they would give all of the big political titles. You know, he's an empire of the empire of this and the king of that, and all the rest of this stuff.

I don't know him. And then they would knock again and they say who is it, and he would give family relationships right that he has, I don't know him, And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, and it's a humble sinner rons Joseph, I know him.

is comparative. It's not about well, how wealthy are you, it's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else. That's how you know if you're wealthy, how smart are you compared to others? Sadly, identity is formed by comparing, and that's why it's so prideful, right, because we have a tendency to say, well, I'm better over here, I'm better over there. So occupation is the first dation, and then what we're measuring. We're saying, okay, well I

know what that job requires in terms of education. Secondation, we're now we're saying, well he's better educated or I'm better educated. We're measuring here we are in that first conversation with another guy, and by asking what is your occupation, we're starting to measure the other asians. Second one is education. Third, well, we're asking, well, I know what that makes. If you're a surgeon, I know you're making some or if you're

an accountant, whatever it is, you're measuring compensation. That's the next station. So at some point then you're asking, too, how good are you at this? You could be a doctor, but just be a terrible doctor. Reputation is the next ation. What are we doing here, Well, we're measuring based on

we're assigning value based on the answers here. And if you're a guy, if you're a cop, especially, you could be somebody who's that's got nothing more than a high school education and you're working as a patrol officer and I've been making that much money. You've never tried to do anything other. But if you're six foot eight and cut like a Greek god, you're still the biggest dog in the room. Because now it's about intimidation the last ation. So I think he's got a point. It's very unlighten.

much of our trauma and struggle. This is a separate chapter of this book. I'll give you an example of this. We would do a lot of work now with officers to Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting ready to leave in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents and now they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only get there before they get a divorce. They get a divorce,

they say, we're not coming. I always say, just hold on, just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big. But this is that the dire straits therein Okay I discovered by three or four years ago. The thing that is the biggest struggle for

officers is, especially if you're injured, is identity. It turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury, you suffered, a divorce, a loss of a job, a child being loved, whatever you lost, whatever it was you suffered in a trauma, you'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity. You thought of yourself as married. Now you're divorced, you see yourself differently.

Identity is simply how you continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue, and every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize that kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity inside something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you,

bruised in some way, damaged in some way. And of the three ways that we form identity inside out, outside in, or top side down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you're forming your identity outside in, where you say it like, this is how the ancients did it. You know, this thing outside of me existed before I was ever born, and I'm just going to reach out and grab that and form my identity. So it's a tribe that's the

tribe I was raised in. It's the name of my family name, it's the profession of my family. We're all cops, so that's like who I am. Okay, that's outside in identity, and I all of us do some of that inside out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I'm going to ask you outside of me to identify me based on my innate hearts, desires. Okay, that's inside out identity. Both of those are unstable because at some point your job ends, you're going to retire, then who

are you then? Or you're going to get injured, and or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle. It's just the nature of it. Well, then get ready to suffer some trauma on the course you're like now, if you've formed your identity top side down, where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging, then you're going to have lows in your life, of course, but they're going to be not quite as deep because that the day before you suffer the injury, you were

a child of You were in Christ. That day the day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same God sees you the same way. Now, are you going to struggle because you're an injury? Of course? But who you are hasn't changed. And it turns out that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even in an injury. It's not so much just the pain of the injury, it's who am I now? And that's why we have to kind of really be serious about

our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. It's about human flourishing. It really is.

As you begin talking about that, you said, you know, this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes as a social media stuff. It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people, and it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't know, you know, following you and everything I'm going to tell you focusing on that, it's amazing.

in the bio. So all of this, then we're going to spend the next how many years on social media posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me.

about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the gospel, and I just stay focused on that. Now, that doesn't that gives people a view of me that's not actually true. It's the view that I'm crafting for them, and we have to be aware

of that. But everyone does that. I mean, I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat because but it's really that it's not just that we are in some way forming and sharing our identity. It's that we are also revealing our idols. We're revealing our priorities. We're revealing this stuff that we think is so consequential, so important that we are willing to proclaim it. That's one of the ways you can you can see what your idols are. Ask yourself, like, look at your

social media streams. Well, I want to know what your idols are. I can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media platform, right, that's right.

in your life than you are later. But I'm also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon, right, because yeah, I use social media as much as anybody else, but I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. Are we buying in This is a different chapter in the book. But are

we by nature innocent, born innocent, born virtuous? And we are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, government systems. Is that who we are? Or is the flip true that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough, but no matter what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it, even religious systems. Which of those two things

is true? We need to figure that out because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture, and we can put our resources in the right direction. Look, Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good and corrupt them and do them for selfish You can even behave uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons.

that be? How could it be that there's somebody who, for the last thirty years has been an exemplar in our community, the deacon at the church, the doctor who delivered my babies, Yet thirty years ago he killed his wife. How could that be? There's no way he could be that duplicit? Is there? This enigma of man has to be sorted out. Now, what I see in the studies is that, yes, we do have good examples of the altruism of humans. Humans are capable of great altruism. They

are until it doesn't serve them personally. So in other words, I'm usually the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight. Then we start holding toilet paper. Well why are we doing that? Because we are at our base nature self serving, and even when we are are doing good for others, it serves us in some way. That's why we're doing it. We want to be seen a certain way. Very seldom do you see people who you know do good things. Who aren't proclaiming to you

that they do good things. That's how you know they're doing good things. Well, that's because that proclamation is what they're really after. Yeah, okay, that's the truth. If that's the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition. Number One, it causes me to know that I am not trustworthy, that I am no different. Number One, It's leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview once I had this realization. I never went into an interview and thought I was

somehow better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I knew that we're all the same person. And but for the grace of God, my buttons haven't been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now, look, this is not to try to elevate people who do bad behavior. I'm a justice guy, so we're going to take care of this. But I recognize that I am

just like him. We are all just like him. When you watch an episode of Dateline, I'm hoping you're not sitting there and going, yeah, what an idiot.

Why is that there because the people who formed it new you can't trust people, you can't trust humans. We are by nature of fallen if we don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have a community. Basically, this is why the Christian worldview has not lived in isolation, because this is why marriages. So this is another chapter of the book why marriage is so important. Because I've close enough to another human that I have given her permission to tell me where

I'm wrong. I've given her permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants from me. And if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now, and you don't have true friends, and you don't have the kind of relationship that'll urge you towards something better. So it turns out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered.

It was a chapter in here about true friendship or why because I've worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they thought was their true friend. M Well,

so what is the nature of quality relationships? We need to kind of dig into that because it turns out that there are some relationships that if you're listening, that you're holding right now, that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well being, and that might at some point, by the way, likely if I'm the first time I'm going to do, if I'm working your homicide, is I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that is somebody you knew really well who

kills you. And in the end we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm hanging out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better?

to have satisfied life, satisfying life. But it's not just any kind of relationship. It turns out it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people on social media. So there's three things, three things that lead to the quality flourishing in your relationships.

they're probably not. Then these kinds of friends you need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with third piece virtuous people. Now here's the reason why. I've met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous, and they're they're they're basically they're part of their crime family. And so you can have deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. Now here's the tricky question is what do we call virtuous?

Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters, is that what is virtuous? What they say is because they would say, hey, if you offend us, we're going to come over there and kill you. That's just the code. You knew better before you did that. You should have known that was coming, because you know that's what you're going to get. And so who just gets to decide what is righteous, right or wrong? Virtuous?

Who gets to decide that is it a group of people or is it a single individual, or is there something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities. So it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent, unchanging, overarching virtue giver the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in because if we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for

all kinds of stupid. And we're already seeing this because what's virtuous to even politically, what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we're arguing as if there's no transcendent, overarching virtue. So this is one of those areas your relationships that does benefit from a

worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There's a couple of places where that happens in this book, but this is one that's very important because we can say you tell your kids all the time, but don't be handled with there's a bad people who gets to decide they're bad? This is now suddenly Caught is going to have to cause us to think about how we ground good and bad. How do we ground a righteousness? And if you're going to ground it in just the opinion

of people, well that's every case. I work at some point you have to be wiser than that. And that's why I think it's important for us to adopt the one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective, transcendent source for virtue.

like this is about spending money on a book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book, and that's the challenge.

beware of commoditizing oneself. Difficult to promote one work, even freedom or biblical work, without that promotion becoming self promoting rather than praising God. That's absolutely so good, so good.

When you talk about blowback from a protest, that was quite literally it. Hillary Clinton funds these lunatic idiot criminals, some of which have just gotten several year prison sentences and well deserved. They brought traffic on the M twenty five motorway back in November twenty twenty two, a reckless act. Frankly, you know, you have people who may have an emergency they need to be able to get to the hospital or something like that. Not to mention how many people

had their time waste did by these lunatic idiots. They're just going around destroying things, you know, spraying paintings and all the rest of this stuff, you know, climbing bridges and putting stuff up. But they also threw soup over Vincent van Gogo's sunflowers in a museum caused damage exceeding five thousand pounds. They face a jail sentence for that. But five of the activists who blocked the five motorway got jail sentences, one of them sentenced to five years,

the others getting four years each. Some UK members of Parliament who called for the group to be designated as a terrorist organization. But Hillary Clinton doesn't think they're deplorable. She loves them. She gives them money, gives them money through an organization that goes into another organization. That's the way they always do this stuff. That's what Soros does, you know, he puts money into the Tides organization they create, and then there's all these other things that what they

do is they have all these different layers. It makes it harder for people to find out where the money is coming from. Gives them implausible deniability. And we've seen a lot of that in the recent elections here at the state level in Tennessee, a lot of outside money being filtered through a lot of different organizations for both Republican and Democrat candidates at the state level. You know, Frank nicely who just lost because of that. He tried

to stop that out of state funding. It failed, both Republicans and Democrats. Majority of Republicans wanted that out of state funding. And so the result is that you know, if you oppose the banks, you pose the out of state funding, the out of state funding comes for you with a big campaign of posters and ridiculously absurd lies as absurd as this just stop oil stuff. On Thursday, The Telegraph reveal the involvement of Hillary Clinton and funding

criminal activities in the UK. Just Stop Foyle's largest financial backer is a California nonprofit, the Climate Emergency Fund. One of the Climate Emergency Funds major supporters is Onward Together, a campaign organization that was founded by Hillary Clinton.

Just Stop Oil recently vanalyzed Stonehenge as I said before, and then after that they caused disruption at London's Heathrow Airport. As we've previously stated, Just Stop Oil is an offshoot of extinction rebellion, which is also funded by billionaires. Shock troops for globalist technocrats are pushing for the same net zero agenda, and they are the ultimate creatures of the establishment. Oh, that is absolutely true. Here's the key about Paris. Here's

what's interesting about Paris. Paris is a preview of what the Paris Accords want life to be like. When we talk about the miserable sleeping accommodations and everything else, and no air conditioning in the Olympic village and no meat and of course a filthy, filthy river that the mayor of Paris cannot be bothered to clean up. All of this is a preview of what these people want for us, the utter contempt that they have so and then of course the social and religious agenda that is a key

part of it as well. Paris Olympics lacks meat based proteins, so the athletes are complaining about this, and some of them are as they shipped in air conditioning, they're shipping in food now to feed their people because the Parisians won't do it. And of course Paris is governed by Marxist mayor. The same Marxist mayor put on a wetsuit and waited in the water, so see it's fine, gets out now. These people are getting really sick who are

having to participate in events there. British athletes flew an additional chef out to Paris to bridge a shortfall of supplies. Their own chef their own supplies. The CEO of the UK Olympic Is Association lamented the lack of protein, especially chicken and eggs.

Reduced animal protein to lower the games carbon footprint? Athletes requiring high animal protein diets is a myth, says the European Policy Manager. It is a myth that has been busted a long time ago. Those perpetuating it in these games aren't basing their arguments on science.

say you don't need to eat meat. Look, we got Olympic athletes out here competing and they're not feeding them any meat. And the next thing you know, they're going to have some of these people who won metals and they're going to put them on a box of insect cereal, just like Bruce Gender to sell you the insect cereal. Prescribers of these diets have underestimated the need and the desire for high protein foods offered by animal proteins in order to repair muscles and to recover between events and

training sessions. But they said, the policy managers are upfront about it. This is an opportunity to showcase to millions of people that plant proteins are better alternative for the planet and can also support athletic performance. See if they can do this stuff. That's why they're coming down so

hard on the athletes. So you can sleep on cardboard and you can eat the bugs or the vegetables and have no protein, and you can still compete, and somebody's going to win a gold medal, and they can take whoever won the gold medal, and with any unable to set a record because of no sleep and no protein, but they can they still win a gold medal, and so we can use them as a poster child to

sell these kind of measures to other people. No air conditioning, cardboard beds, eating plants, and drinking untreated water in the Seine, as you are trying to compete in these events, hypo.

and the Green Book Festival. He's publisher of Healthy Living g magazine and serves as director of the nonprofit HLF, which is Healthy Living Foundation. His book that we're going to be talking about today is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden chemical toxins, and of course you can find that on Amazon probably everywhere else as well.

with lost IQ points. As many as six to seven IQ points could be lost.

And I told my son, I said, look, you know, I want to have grandkids and I want your kids to be really healthy, and if you keep using this stuff, I could speak freakily, you know, frankly to him I said, it's going to damage your testicles and your sperm because what researchers have found out is that thllites act like the sex hormone estrogen.

estrogens that are hidden. And one of the big culprits is cosmetics. So I do share in raising healthy kids. How do you find safe cosmetics? I make it really simple, but it's so important.

still going to be probably a different formulation. They're constantly changing and improving these things, right in terms of the things that they use for the manufacturing process and that type of thing.

was two thousand years ago. It's just that we've changed the chemicals that are causing problems and we're not telling. The worst thing is, you know, people would buy safe products if they only knew, but the way that it's the way the game is played or rigged, industry doesn't have to tell consumers when they know they're hidden chemical toxins.

I agree, yeah, and that's why my group Healthy Living Foundation has done so many legal actions in Washington, d c. In California to make companies reveal these hidden chemical toxins in their consumer products.

or what the health effects of it are. And so that's how, as you point out, that's why you got to keep keep current on this, why something like your book, your publication is going to help people because those things are constantly changing. Oh, they know about that one, so let's take that out. But we've got this new thing

here and nobody's tested it. We're going to put that in and it can be something that you don't even necessarily really internalize, but in terms of eating, but you're still going to be getting that in through your skin, breathing it in, other things like that, and it's going to have a big effect on you, isn't it.

necessarily even thinking about. In terms of cosmetics, you've mentioned things like bubble baths.

we sued doctor and Gamble. We sued them for having high amounts of a carcinogen in pantein and herbal essences shampoos, and we got them to reduce the levels by ninety percent in a consent judgment that we want in California Superior Court to make those products much safer. But you know, bubble bath like shampoos will continue in a carcinogen called dioxide. Here's one big tip that's in my book though, that

I want to share with your listeners. If you see an ingredient on your cosmetic label that has these three letters eth like sodium loris sulfate, don't buy it. Those are the ingredients that will be contaminated with chemicals that cause cancer. So, mom and dad when you're buying or mom and dad, if you're buying shampoos for your kids, or if you're just buying them for yourself or a bubble bath, the big tip is avoid any chemicals with ETCH.

You'll see it on the label and if you do, you know that company is not looking out for your health or your kid's health.

And I don't know if you want to mention names or not, but it's helpful and I don't mind sharing a little bit because it's in public record, actually, but we sue Justin's Nut Butters, which is one of the most popular brands in the country, because they had such a high amount of an industrial chemical called acrylamide that they were not telling their consumers about. Now, my kids, like a lot of kids are trying to go healthy.

A lot of folks are trying to go paleo, so they are buying a lot of almond butters for example. And what I share in raising healthy kids protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins is when you're at that Whole Foods and you're looking for nut butters, you could reach for the Whole Foods nut butter, which we also tested and was very low and very safe compared to the justice, but neither is labeled for this industrial chemical called acrylamide, so the consumer is left in the dark.

The problem is that a chrylamide, as we're talking about with TALC, is linked with an increasing incidence of endometrial cancer in our daughters, and that risk begins when they're kids and they're eating snack foods because the foods most likely to have acrylamide are snack foods like nut butters or potato chips or French fries. And if we let our kids keep eating these foods, we wonder again, why is there so much endometriosis, endometrial cancer, reproductive cancers, breast cancer,

all of these cancers. Well, I mentioned that some chemicals act like estrogen. Acrylamide also acts like the hormone estrogen. So when our daughters are eating it. It messes with their genes and causes them to produce a toxic form of estrogen that then increases their risk for reproductive cancers. So again, David, these things are not being shared with consumers, and that's why I really felt it was necessary to

write the book and share this information. You know, people can one of the fastest ways to make change in Americas through the marketplace, through the free market. And we've kind of always said, well, America is a free market, we're capitalists. But how free as a market when the manufacturers are withholding such vital information from the consumers and

dumbing them down. And that's what I'm fighting against, to make people smarter and let them see what's really going on so they can protect themselves and their families.

and these are the levels we want you to test that. Now, because I've been in the trench is so long, David, I know, with the suppliers to the brand say is, well, we're going to test the products, but we're not really going to look for the chemicals that they're concerned about, nor are we going to test at levels low enough to find them. So we're going to send them a

quality certificate that says that everything is non detectable. Well, we go in there and test the products with really good lab methods, and that's when we find the thaltes,

for example, or the dioxane. So this is really kind of a self induced blindness that the companies don't want to know the truth about their own products, so they leave it to their suppliers, and their suppliers willingly lie and deceive them because they want to keep supplying inferior materials that don't cost as much to process.

the same. They got three different drugs to teach a to treat a particular problem, and so they'll each hire their people to test it, and lo and behold, the people that you hired, that you were paying are going to say that your brand is better than Brand B and Brand C. They've seen that over and over again, and so that's really what's happening because there isn't any oversight, There isn't any information outside this. You're our director of

the Chemical Toxin Working Group. Tell us little bit about that.

products are being sold in your neighborhood. So if you see canned clams, oysters, mussels and you want to have kids, these are not the products to buy. They have so much lead and cadmium in them. So much lead that eating one serving of one of these products is equivalent to a drinking about twenty glasses of drinking water from Flint in Michigan during the height of the lead crisis. So I'm telling mom and dad, don't buy these canned

shellfish products. If you want to have kids, You're going to inundict your fetus or your children with heavy metals. So we take on big companies. In that case, we took on Chicken of the Seed, as I mentioned, Bumblebee, Kroger the supermarket chain, and Walmart all in one court case. And these are billion dollar companies. They joined together to

fight us. But we want we want in court, we got a consent judgment, and that consent judgment said, now, at least in California, where we have stronger consumer laws, you have to notify the consumer on the label if your product contains heavy metals like letther cadmia. So we run a big victory for consumers, and we continue to do that. We continue to work in the area of foods, cosmetics,

vitamin supplements, and we test and we test. Another product we found this is how we screw up fertility in America. There was a very popular olive oil product we tested that had a chemical called carbaryl in it. They weren't telling their customers, but we enlisted the help of the best, the most respected researcher in this field in the country, if not the world, who had found that carboyl at very low levels, David the Left from Everyday Exposures, was

damaging men's sperm. So here you have a company selling olive oil products with carborel. Now men and women are using olive oil products daily. We use it for our health because of the fats, the different kinds of fats. They're olive oil. But if you're using it daily and it has so much carbaryl in it, and you're on the cusp of either being having a family or not, as so many couples are in America. This is the kind of exposure that can bring you from able to

have a child to not being able to have a child. Yes, and it's every day, and you're not being told, and you know your mom and dad are going, why aren't we conceiving? And dad is going, I don't know. I'm eating olive oil every day and trying to be really healthy. But what he does and know, of course, is that that olive oil is tainted with carborel and that's damaging. The sperm can't make it up the vaginal canal to the ad because they're not strong enough. They don't have

enough motility. So are there misshapen So we really are damaging. You know, this is a micro world, a nano world. We're talking about within our bodies. Yes, but these are just examples of the kinds of things we're fighting on a daily basis. We want a big settlement there so carbo will no longer be found in this company's olive oil products.

it is the products that we use. It can be cleaning products, it can be cereal, it can be bubble bath, it can be all these cosmetics that we use, and we really don't understand that, and it is something that is constantly changing and difficult to keep up with.

story in the book I'll just share. Family is in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. They just started their family. They had two young kids. They were sending off to preschool, David. What they didn't do was check the drinking water. The tap water at the preschool. That preschool was connected to a well that was drawing from an Air Force base that had been using all these forever chemicals. Wow, so their children were their bloodstream was inundated with chemicals that cause cancer, kidney,

and liver disease. These kids were like four and five years old. The only thing they didn't do was asked the preschool, did you check your water?

it worked its way down into the water system. And so even though people were on well water, people out there in California were getting this radium high concentrations of radium in their water. And it's like, what's people getting sick? So and then they started investigating that. But yeah, that's probably a good tip to constantly be checking your water

to see if there's something there. Even if you're not on a city system or something like that, even if you're pulling it out of the ground, there can still be groundwater contamination that you don't know about.

Rouge and New Orleans. It's about eighty five miles and there are about one hundred and fifty to two hundred chemical plants packed into these eighty five miles. You know, you'll see all the ships coming up from the Gulf with their oil and coal or coming down the river with their coal and or to these plants. This is where all the chemicals in our cosmetics, personal care products, this is where they're all made. As Cancer Alley, where all these plants are. The trouble is they're drinking water.

There is atrocious we measure in it thalates, which we talked about, hexachlorocyclopentadine. I won't even go into what that is, but lots of different chemicals. And some people there though may make like fifteen seventeen thousand dollars a year, they don't make a lot of money. So what I often tell folks is if you're on a budget, don't worry about testing your water at home. I'm talking about at home now, if you're on a budget, I want you to do these things. And this is what I share

in the book too. So this is a tip from our chapter on drinking water. Get yourself a little faucet filter that fits at the end of your faucet. They cost about twenty five dollars, right, and they do a pretty good job of filtering their water. But then I want you to get a picture filter like Zero Water or Brita. In our home, we use zero Water. Why because it filters out those forever chemicals. So you put the water from the faucet and then you put it

into your pitcher, so you've double filtered your water. That picture will cost about thirty dollars. So for about fifty dollars, David, you have filtered your water and reduced probably eighty five to ninety percent of the contamination. Now, a really, a really you know triple A system can run three hundred, four hundred dollars or more. But not everyone has an available three or four hundred dollars at one time. But most people can afford a twenty five dollars thirty dollars purchase, right,

So that's why I'm saying. Now, if you were mentioning all these chemicals and your home, well, when you shower, you know, and the water gets hot, then these chemicals become volatile and you breathe them. So I want you to take another twenty dollars and buy yourself a shower filter with activated carbon. Yes, now, for about seventy five dollars, you've done most.

The point is that all of us can do this. Don't let your budget be don't say I can't afford it. I bust so many myths in raising healthy kids. People will say for example, I can't afford organic foods because they're too expensive. Not true anymore. All the staples, David, all the staples, let us cellery, apples, they're all about

the same price as conventionally growing now. And that's because so many oppers for the last twenty years have been waking up to wanting food without chemicals like pesticides or fungus sides. So they've grown this market again, it's the free market. As the demand has grown, prices have gone down. So this summer, for example, or last summer, you know, I could find organic produce just by shopping online that

was cheaper than conventionally sourced produce. That's because we the shoppers, are waking up and making a difference.

It's going to make in your life, but talk a little bit about the labels in terms of, you know, something is organic something versus something that is non GMO and some of these other things. I think people get confused about that. I'm sure you cover that in your book. By the way, the book is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting your Children from Hidden chemical toxins. Educates a little bit about some of these labels that we'll see out there and oh, sure, depend on sure.

a better choice than conventionally sourced food. I'm not saying that organically grown foods are perfect, but in writing Raising Healthy Kids, I reviewed thousands and thousands of tests that were done on foods organic and non organic, and the non organic food was really infiltrated with a lot of chemical pesticides that you're obviously not told about on the labeling, whereas the organic foods rarely ever had any detectable pesticides.

So the difference is enormous. And the reason why this is really important again, you know, we were talking about cosmetics shaving IQ points researchers at Columbia in the Northeast in New York City and UC Davis in California found them when kids were exposed to the chemicals in our foods, like the pesticides, they also lost five to seven IQ points. Now, the researchers in California found this among children who were exposed to pesticides because so many of their parents were

farm workers. But in New York City, the kids parents weren't exposed to pesticides because they were farm workers. The kids were being exposed to these chemicals because they were eating the foods, and they were also losing five to seven IQ points. So organic is the real thing, and there are a lot of health benefits that come from organic foods. I know it's really fashionable to bash people like me who say, well organic, they're great food.

That means the foods were not genetically modified. And this is important too, because one of the reasons why foods are being props are being genetically modified is that so farmers can apply more herbicide to them. You know, there's a reason why lifeless said a round up is showing up in so many foods in America today. Lifeless say

is thought to cause cancer among other problems. Yes, but the reason why it's showing up is so many crops are being genetically modified to withstand heavy doses of round up, so they can so the So there's herbicide companies can sell more round up, and the seed companies have modified their crops so they can take that more round up because they're the same company. The seed companies in the

erboside companies are one and the same. So you know, you really do want to get non gmo, but non gmo may still have other pesticides applied to it.

what are causing ADHD in our kids. Yes, and so every local bread it may say non GMO, but it's still going to be sprayed with herbicides or pesticides. So organic is superior to non g M O. Organic will still be non GMO, but it also precludes uh, most of the pestal all all synthetic pesticides.

human welfare as well, but both of us. I do try to buy products, but I've looked them up, and these labels can be misleading because if they say free range, it could mean like maybe an hour or two a day that they're let out of their coup So there are again I buy organic, and I do look for uncaged poultry eggs and that it will say it on the label. Also, you should get to know the company

you're buying your eggs. From because as I said, they can claim to be free range but not let their birds out very much because again, unless it's at most of them are certified. If they're certified, the animals will be treated much better. Also with beef, we also have now organic versus grass fed beef, and I'm okay with

grass fed beef. Now, the big thing with beef is that cattle and America are treated with hormones, both estrogen and progesterone and testosterone, and these levels can be measured in your beef. So there have been articles recently about our daughters reaching menarchy or puberty.

really want to be careful about that. Now with beef, I mentioned I'm okay with grass fed, and I've studied this, and that's because fed beef also tends to be It may not be labeled organic, but if you get beef that's been grass fed from beginning to end, it's still going to it's not going to have hormones, and it's going to be very low in any kind of pesticides that would have accumulated in the grains that are being fed,

for example, corn fed beef. So grass fed and organic are your best choices for beef, and there's a big reason for that. Another good reason is ranchers who sell grass fed beef, pork, and so on tend to think of themselves really as grass managers. What they say is give me a little rain, give me a little grass, and I can give you your beef for your pork.

So they're very conservation oriented. And I interviewed for Raising Healthy Kids mel Coleman, who's ranches up in Colorado, and he just talked about one hundred years of regenerative ranching. They've really remade so much of that area into grasslands, healthy grasslands because they move their herds. In this case it's a couple. It was a couple thousand gallo at one time, but they moved them in ways that the grass would regenerate and they were not fed corn and grains.

You want to avoid corn fed or brain fed beef though that's the beef that will have the hormones added to it. You want grass fed or organic when it comes to beef, pork, and your other meats.

an official USDA site. Now when when they're taken there, they put them on grains there at the feed lots, right, But it's not enough that it's going to really make that big of a change. Is that is that the way we would look at it or what? What do you think about that.

will still be given hormones or antibiotics. In the case of poultry, naturally raised does not mean that they weren't given hormones.

have more pesticide in it if you are serving. If you're buying poultry, for example, and you have fried chicken, you know the skin is the fattiest portion. Plus that breaded portion will have all those organic phosphate pesticides, So you might be better off with a grilled a piece of with grilled chicken, for example. But when you're dining out, poultry is always safer than beef. Turkey is always safer than chicken. And it's just the way of the studies

come out. So that's another tip that I bring up in raising healthy kids is when you're diving out, what you look.

haven't talked about cereals and stuff. I guess you know, when you look at the cereal and it's all these bright florescent colors, you might think that something's wrong. But there's probably a lot of things that put themselves out there as a healthy cereal that probably have the same problems as that bright fluorescent colored stuff too.

I talk to so many parents who find that when they stop serving their kids all these food dies, Like we're talking about fruit loops right, and you know, cereals can be so brightly colored with often they were and still continue to be with food dyes. These food dies

are another cause of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Wow, and mom and dad will find that when they remove food dice from their kids diet as well as the organical phosphate pesticides in their grains, their kids' behavior will improve and it comes pretty fast. So organic is the big key for buying the cereals. As well, and it will go a long way towards giving your child a better breakfast, stay away from all those food dies that are in the cereals.

money to spend on the food. You could certainly make the argument that you're going to save, as you did with the water testing, money spent upfront on making sure that your food is clean, your water as clean is going to be a real economic decision rather than having to treat the results of eating food that is loaded with all these other things. I mean, you know, let the food be your medicine upfront and not create these situations. That's the really wise thing I think.

we're talking about organic foods. How shoppers have created that market. You know, in my reporting in California, I used to go to a town in California called Salinas, and Selenas is called the salad bowl of America because about seventy percent of all lettuce is grown in this area of California. The town and all the schools are carved right out of the farm fields. You'll see see thousands of acres of farmfield and then a little school in the middle. There.

I used to go to these schools and they were surrounded by fields being sprayed with pesticides.

And I was really David, I was really overjoyed. I was kind of crying with joy because listen for years in the early two thousands, when there was barely an organic market, I would listen to all these people saying, you know, why waste your money on organic foods? Why pay this much for those organic strawberries. I was doing it kind of on faith. That I was making a difference,

that's great. But to see it materialize and Selena's like idea showed me that my actions are not only good for my health and my family's health, but they're actually helping my neighbors, people I may never have known three hundred miles north of me, but now I can see that my choices were improving their lives too.

and everything. And our daughter, our dog was getting out and got into that. And so it's like that really clicked with me right there, how important that exposure is.

same chemicals do cause increased cancer. And our canine friends, Yeah, that's right, So what's your dog? You know, the lymphoma was definitely oh, you see the pretty clearly.

it's the volume that they make it up on. And so I think that's one of the other reasons why if we keep it small, if we keep it local, that helps a great deal. But as you point it out, by voting with our pocketbook and voting for organic stuff, and I think the same thing is going to happen if we do that with other products, if we do that with cosmetics and other things like that, make it known to them, hey we don't want this stuff. You know,

that's such a marketplace thing. Can work with other things other than organic food. We can have organic makeup and other things like that. So it's important.

that can educate the kids about doctor Fauci. Or I guess we could go back and get the archives for one of the kids a little bit older, and I'll educate them about a lot of things about doctor Fauci and other things that are happening in our society.

individuals and they'll apologetically say, well, you know, nobody's perfect. Well, most people don't brag about That's one of the things I said about.

in divorce court. But you know, when Trump came on the scene politically, I said, well, I guess I have to change that analogy because he is somebody who is proud of his adultery. Right, he parades his immorality like the LGBT people do. And that's a big problem. Why

would you ally yourself to that. And you know, you have the Christian churches who will criticize the Conservatives, who will criticize the liberal Christians who attach themselves to LGBT and elevate and worship LGBT, and yet they do it with Trump, and the two of them are both proud of their sin. So but it really comes down to fear. And I saw this on a world it says, are conservative Christians driven by fear? You know, you got a lot of the so called leaders tell you to vote

out of fear. And a lot of these leaders were also telling you four years ago, like al Muhller was telling you to take the vaccine out of fear and do it because you love your neighbor and so forth, all these different things. But the question is, you know, should Christians be looking to Christ as their leader? Because if you're looking to Christ as your leader, you don't have fear. Right, what would you fear if you really see yourself in His hand? What would you fear if

Christians ever, and I say Christians is at large. Right, if the church at large begins to see itself in the hand of Christ, if they see Christ as their leader and their protector, that's going to make a big difference.

But if they don't, they have to keep quiet, they have to not rock the boat, and they're ashamed of their faith and they live in fear, and it's being sold to them by these people who have thousands of people show up every week to their building and or they run seminaries like al Moller, and you know they've got to tow that line. Or they want to have connections to politicians. You know, they want to be seen standing next to Trump or praying for Trump or whatever.

You know, you stop and think about it. Christ said those who are not sick don't need a physician. If you think you've got everything handled and you don't need any forgiveness, you're not going to get forgiveness. And you know you see that with Trump, don't you. I've played for you. The clips were Frank Luntz and Jake Tapper of all people talk to him, Don't you think you need forgiveness? You say that, you know, you kind of nod your head to the Christians and so forth, and no,

I don't really think I need any forgiveness. I really don't think I need any forgiveness. That is the most dangerous position. Where are all these people who are praying for him? Do they really love him if they won't tell him that he does need forgiveness and where he can find forgiveness. You got all these pastors like Paula White and this Hispanic guy that I don't need Maldonado or something was it the guy who has six homes, a private jet, one hundred and twenty million dollars in

terms of his net assets and all the reston. Does he talk to Trump and say, you know, you stand condemned before God, and the only way that you're going to stop that condemnation is through Christ. They've never given him the gospel. These people stand next to him, they make a big show out of praying for him, and they hate him. How could you do that over and over again? I'm a spiritual advisor, says Paul White. How could you over and over again? You don't tell him

the gospel. What they're doing is they're feeding his greed because these people are greedy. Paul White and these other prosperity gospel preachers are just all about the money, and so is Trump, and they just, you know, they just grift off of each other. They have nothing to do with a gospel, They have no hope to give him, and they are trying to put that spirit of fear in you. And it's not just a prosperity gospel people either. It's a lot of these Baptist conservative preachers out there

who are doing it. I said the Archbishop of Vigano, who is a conservative in his politics, he's doing that as well. And so this guy says, you know, talking about fear, he said, at times, it seems like the media is obsessed with the fears the conservative Christians supposedly possess. And with that, he's talking about how they always call us transphobic or homophobic or this. This is always a phobia there, right, So he says, well, you know, they

have a christian aphobia, christanophobia. Maybe I think we just need to stop with all the fraudulent psychology, all the Sigmund Freud. Freud is a fraud. Let's stop with all the phobia stuff. You know, Let's just understand we've got nothing to fear but God. And if you fear God, he is a merciful God as well.

that fear with people. They even accused Christians of fearing that they are declining and thus need to increase their fertility, he says. As I studied christanophobia and academic bias, he said, I realized that the academics have a powerful motivation to

focus on negative characteristics with Christians, particularly white evangelicals. It's not simply that certain academics seek to portray Christians in a negative light, but it's also the fact that they are hesitant to see the same negative traits among other groups, particularly groups that the member of You can always see the mote in the other person's eye, that log in the other person's eye, the splinter, and you don't see the big one in yours. But these people are full

of fear, aren't they. On the left, they have the utmost fear of global warming and co two, they have Trump fear. Just like the A lot of these conservative Christians are pushing the fear of La La Well, these people push the fear of Trump. When it became apparent that Biden was highly unlikely to win reelection. It was not merely the tone of disappointment, but it was a sound of desperation. And it was also the sound of fear.

And I say that, you know, he says, I look at this, and I see that they have a lot of fear, and they can't see their fear. Can we see our fear? They were afraid with Biden there, it's collapsing. He's not going to win. Everything is lost. Are we seeing the same type of thing on our side? This is what was the basis of the grift of Stop the Steel and Trump's Save America was the fear got a lot of people into a lot of trouble unnecessarily. I said, there's no reason to go there. I said,

it's going to be a trap. They trap us with fear, they destroy us, they use depopulation shots on us because of fear. We should not have fear like these other people. But I see that same type of fear that he sees in the left about Biden. I see that same type of fear on the right being sold by people who should be Christian leaders. Do we believe that those

who lament about the end of democracy? See both sides are saying this and if we're not careful, if we don't push back against this fear, this fear is going to be used to create a civil war one way or the other. That's why they're doing it, fear that their political or religious group is going to be left out. Well, I just have to say that as Christians were not given a spirit of fear. So if you've got a Christian leader who is selling you fear, then they're not

selling you Christ. They're selling you something else. They have a spirit that is opposed to Christ. That spirit of fear is coming from Satan's not coming from Christ. And these politicians want to be politicians who are standing up in front of these churches and telling people you've got to vote for Trump. Now you got to vote where it's a sin. They're selling you a spirit of fear. They're not giving you a message from Christ, They're giving you a message from Satan. What is it the political

progresses fear? And how might that fear be manifested in their actions in our society? He said, My recent work points to a distinct source of fear for political progressives, and that is conservative Christians. They fear Christians, they don't fear God. They fear Christians, well, he says, Christians can say that they have a right to fear the larger culture as well. Ultimately, I cannot determine if the fear within progressives is higher or more consequential than the fear

within Christians. As I said yesterday, repeated over and over again the Bible, fear not, fear not, fear not. Why Because God rules. God rules. Even when we have Detalitarians in place in our society, God still rules. And even when the wicked succeed, God rules. I asked the question in some so many times, why do the wicked prosper? Why do they succeed? Well, we take solace in the fact that God is in control and that He sees what is happening. So let them fear. We don't have

that spirit. If we have that spirit, you better cast it out, and you better stop paying attention to these people who are pushing that fear.

extremely important to our liberties. It