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Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to the David Knight Show. As a clock strikes thirteen, it's Wednesday, the twenty first of February. You're of our Lord, twenty twenty four. Well, today the hearings, the final hearings, This is the second day of hearings about Juliana Siance is going to be conducted. Absolutely amazing the media blackout that is happening with the mainstream media, and so we're going to begin by talking about that, and

we're going to finish today by talking about that. We're going to have Marty Gottisfeld on because if, as it looks, this whole thing has been set up to extradite Julian Assange, they will be putting him in a communications management unit, and there are now several of these in the United States. Think of them as domestic gitt mos, where they can manage your communications, where they can store dissidence so that they can't communicate with people on the outside.

And that's exactly what they did to Marty Gottisfeld. So we're going to begin with that. We have a lot of interesting updates to political news as well. When you look at this massive judgment of about a half a billion dollars against Trump. It's far worse than just the corrupt legal system there. It's all based on a very bad law. Maybe Trump should have focused on state

politics. We'll be right back well as a Julian Assan trial hits. We have a lot of people who have shown up from all over the world for several days. Take a look at the big crowd here. You'll see this kind of stuff on social media right now. Right now, it is not being censored, so you'll find it on Twitter at least, maybe not on other social media platforms, but it is completely being censored in the press all

over the Western press, especially in America. And we'll talk about the absolute blackout of this, which is truly amazing, because this is the most consequential trial about freedom of the press that has happened in our lifetime, is likely to happen in our lifetime. Noisy protest outside yesterday the Royal Courts of Justice. You can put that in air quotes like it is here with our Department

of Justice. Protestersro around the world have gathered to demand the release of Juliana Sange, who said in twenty eleven that almost all wars of the last fifty years have been started by media lies. Yeah, by the way, who needs a communications management unit prison when you got the news being controlled by the

mainstream media. And this is why it is becoming ever more essential for them to ramp up their programs, the censorship and surveillance, to bring in anticipatory intelligence, to bring in the CCPA, the Coalition for Content Providence and Authentication that I've talked about so many times, to be able to stop you if you are identified by these same people, these same mainstream media groups will be working the coalition put together by Darpain Microsoft to have mainstream media identify you as

somebody who is not part of the narrative, and then they can and opposing the narrative. And after your marked person, then Microsoft will work with the CPU providers Intel arm and with Maine with a application generating software from people like Adobe to prevent you from creating this stuff. Perhaps maybe it'll stop you from uploading, but I think it'll be there to stop you from creating it. And so they've already put this together. It's being funded by the same people

who created the Internet, who created social media. That is the intelligence agencies. They want to control the information everywhere your active reports. Major media organizations, press advocates in the Australian Parliament are among those to crying Assigned just prosecution. Well, I haven't really seen any major media organizations opposing this. Really. You got some of the big con some of the big conservatives. We'll talk about it, but I only kind of tangentially because see, the problem

is their guy's part of this as well. It's just like the pandemic. They can only go so far, you know. They say, well, you know Julian ossingeeah, he gave us some good information about Hillary and this is what Trump said. But then when push comes to shove, they don't want to talk about the fact that this began under Trump and you know continued by Biden. Just like the pandemic. They hate the pandemic, they hate the JAB, but they don't want to draw those dots to Trump. So

you kind of tread lightly there. Assigne has been held without charge since twenty nineteen at the maximum security Belmarsh Prison, but he's been under custody for twelve fourteen years after spending seven years in the Ecuador and embassy in London. So it's about twelve years. He was arrested in the embassy in April of twenty nineteen, when Ecuador suddenly revoked his political assylum after they had a change presidents

in that country. Assange, forty seven years old, was being held on behalf of US authorities as well as for breaching his original bail conditions, said the UK police, Oh, really okay, being held on behalf of US authority. So if the five eyes, if one of the five eyes, the big eye, tells another I to hold somebody, then they can hold them. Just forget about any due process, right, we take the dissenter and we do the due process later. It's just not simple. It's like

the guns or anything else. Yeah, due process, Well, someday we might get around to it. He has been held there. He's not been charged with any other criminal offense other than he breached his original bail conditions that put you in solitary confinement for five years, put you in an Equadorian embassy for longer than that. So there's been no actual charges brought even on that. They haven't had a trial, he hasn't had a conviction. Assigne was

arrested inside the Ecuador and embassy. In May of twenty nineteen, the US indictment against him was unsealed, revealing a single charge of conspiracy. These people are conspiracy theorists. They charge everybody with conspiracy. Isn't it interesting everybody's guilty of conspiracy, except when you say they are conspiring to do something. No, was this a conspiracy, Of course it was. It was a conspiracy between the CIA and the British intelligence to come after him, and they have

all other NATO countries as well. It was a big conspiracy to commit a crime against fundamental values of free speech and free press. The conspiracy, they said, was to commit computer intrusion. This is the way that they escaped the Pentagon papers issue. Remember the Pentagon Papers had Daniel Elsberg, who recently passed away. He got some Pentagon papers about the fraud of the Vietnam War.

He released it to the Washington Post New York Times. Steven Spielberg made a movie about what heroes the people at the Washington Post the New York Times were when they defied the government's demands that they not published this, and they published it anyway. And there was a court case, and the court case decided that if you are given this information by somebody, then you can print it. So freedom of the press is about and so the New York Times

and the Washington Post were protected under that. Daniel Ellsberg, however, could be tried because he was the one who stole it. Now they had a technicality that got Elsburg off. Perhaps this whole thing was a part of an establishment move against the Vietnam War to make sure that he got off. Nevertheless, the finding, which is consistent with free press and free speech is that if you didn't steal it, somebody hands you something, you should be able

to speak about it. Otherwise there is no free speech. And so what they did with Julian Assigns was they tried to pretend that he was active in terms of obtaining these documents. And you know, they don't charge him with actual computer intrusion. They charge him with a conspiracy to do that. Well, I would certainly like to have information if anybody's got it about the crimes that are being done by our government. You say that, well, you

are part of a conspiracy to get those papers. That's the nonsense that this whole thing hinges on. Now they've subsequently added additional charges because after they extra died him. Legally, technically they cannot add more charges, so they've added more charges. They're looking at keeping him in jail for one hundred and seventy

five years. And we'll talk about the kind of horrific conditions that people who are dissidents like Marty Goddisfeldt being persecuted by major corporation Harvard Harvard Medical, the hospital there, or are somebody like Schaefer Cox who is a political dissident who's been kept in one of these communication management units. Think about that. This is a recent development, these CMUs, and they've now I think gone from he was in the first one, which is an Indiana. I think they've

now gone to like three. We'll talk to Marty about it though. But when you go back and look at the Pentagon Papers movie, like I said, back in twenty seventeen, which was at this point in time, Julian Osonge had been essentially under arrest in the Ecuadorian embassy, and so Steven Spielberg does this movie to show how wonderful the mainstream press is. The mainstream press

that doesn't fight for Julian Osane's release. They had Tom Hanks, Meryl Streep and this Steven Spielberg movie, What Heroes, What courageousness, and yet silence about Julius Senge And of course what it was doing was it was getting you know, you can trust the Washington Post and the New York Times because they're so honest, you know, when you when you look at this, Caitlin Johnstone had I think I forgot to print this out, but she had a

tweet I saw this morning. I retweeted it and she said, Okay, so these people are saying that because this was done by two presidents, that means that there's nothing partisan here about it. This is not political. It's just he's a criminal and he needs to go to jail for the rest of his life. She says, Do you really think that these people are acting on their own? You don't understand that this is part of the American empire? Do not understand who the real government is? A real government, the

CIA. You know, Other than Tucker Carlson's fantastic revelation last week of something that all of us have been talking about for decades, everybody in the world understands that unless you are completely living in that little mainstream media bubble that Tucker Carlson thinks you're living in So why did Asannge take refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy. Well, he did that to avoid a charge of rape in Sweden, which is quietly dropped in twenty nineteen following a review of the evidence. They

didn't want to have a trial for that. They didn't want to have a trial for him. You know, doing anything, do you take the person, You do the punishment, and maybe you do the trial later. Maybe, who knows. The British government passed a new National Security Act this last December, very expansive and in it. When they were debating this law, they expressly mentioned a data dumps through WikiLeaks is a major reason for criminalizing investigative

journalism pertaining to issues of national security. Under this act, journalists from quote non accredited sources unquote. Oh, I mean I don't have a license to speak from Nancy Pelosi or her ilk. This is something they've been looking at for quite some time, of course, and we had during the Obama administration, they had the FCC go around and interview people in news rooms, television, radio and things like that. How do you put together the news?

It's like listen to your business, and this is not. First of all, the FCC was set up to allocate radio frequency spectrums and TV spectrums and so this is a public good. This is something that crosses state lines. And so you know, they set up the FCC to whole lotteries and to sell off these different frequencies, different spectrum and that's it. That's it. But as any self respecting bureaucracy does, they're always looking at ways to expand

their mission. Mission creep and these creeps expanding their mission, decided they wanted to get into content and they've been increasingly moving in that direction and so in the UK, and part of that was to say, well, what's the difference between real media and other people? Well, frankly, I don't really care. First of all, the First Amendment protects the press and also protects the speech of any individual. So what I don't care if you recognize me

as the press or not. Just look at me as an individual who has equal rights to speak freely. And so non accredited sources in the UK, Oh, you're not a licensed journalist, or maybe you're not somebody that has been bought out either by money or by delivering access. You know, Tucker Carlson has talked about Julian Assandra in the past, but not to the people who matter. You had Candace Owen asked Trump about Julian Assange, the only one, the only one who would ask him about it. She didn't press

him when he kind of wiggled around out of it. Well, I'm not going to say who this is. And I didn't pardon Snowden, I didn't pardon nos songe. And you know, one of them is kind of a spy thing or something and the other one isn't. I'm not going to say which one is and which one isn't it. But you know, I had a bad feeling about a little bit. So why'd you have a bad feeling about it? You know, just this wishy washy answered it was about him,

you know, but he wasn't even asked that about Tucker. Tucker, you know, used Trump this big interview with the first debate. Thing doesn't want to look. It's all about maintaining access. That's the way they control these They don't have to write them a check. They do often they do, oh well, you know this is for a special grant to study this or that or to shore up media. That's not profitable. We'll write you a big check. But the biggest check they can write them is to show

up. And if you ask these Republicans, if you are Fox News or Tucker, or if you ask the Democrats, if you're seeing In or MSNBC, if you ask them pointed questions and persist in it, well you don't get access to these people anymore. It's safe for Tucker to do it with some politicians that are well past their cell by date, like Pence. You know, he followed up on Pence. He made an idiot out of Pence, but that was for the maga crowd that he did that. It wasn't

for truth. And he doesn't have to worry about not getting access to Pence. Nobody wants access to Pence. He's gone and he was a dead man walking at the time in terms of politics. With an outcry from both left and right liberals in the UK against this thing that would bar journalists from non accredited sources. You face years of imprisoned by the way if found to be

publishing material that is contrary to the official narrative. This is the death of the West and you see it in everything I've been seeing this type of thing for climate deniers, pandemic deniers, you know, vaccine deniers, election deniers. You do not question their official story on anything, or you get punished. And now they want to take it to the next level, not just canceling people, not just financially deplatforming people. They want to go to incarceration.

And that is what the assigned thing is truly about, taking it, normalizing it to the next level. They can do it to assigns, so they can do it to anybody. And that's what they said in their debates back in December, the new National Security Act. So people were liberals, whether they were right wing or left wing, described this verdict on Assigne as a verdict on the future of journalism and free speech in the West. As with the US, the European Union and its member states, the UK is

taking steps to titan state control of information. By the way, this is many different sources talking about this is that are not mainstream, totally blocked on the what are the accredited sources? But this is Life site News did an excellent article on it. I think they had the best article. Tucker Carlson's most recent broadcast revealed they said the shocking degree to which US intelligence agencies collude with Google, Facebook and other social media platforms. Again, everybody wants to

talk about that. Everybody wants to talk about Tucker. He didn't real anything, he didn't reveal anything. We knew all of that, but now we can trust it because now it's been told to us by Tucker Carlson. Reporters without Borders tried to get in to observe this trial. They were barren actually from visiting him in prison. They can't go to the trial. They put the trial in a very very tiny courtroom. It only has fifteen seats in

this courtroom. But this same Royal Courts of Justice in London has got a lot of courtrooms, many of them are huge, but they put it in the smallest one that they could find. Sorry, we don't have any more room. Sorry sorry, Oh yes, we'd love to accommodate you, but we can't. They also said, as Julian asign just fate hangs in the balance. It is more crucial than ever for media organizations and journalists around the world to speak out and support other principles at stake. And this is not

just about his speech again, this is about you. If you have anything to say on social media or anywhere. You know, when Aaron day I interviewed about CBDC when he had his little the introduction to the book, which is you know, Life under CBDC, it was simply about you know this this family and how after the father spoke out about one issue that the government took issue with, they essentially took everything from the family. They had the power to do it with CBDC. They have the will to do it now

that will give them the power to do it. So these reporters of that boarders barred from visiting him in prison. They described reporting restrictions around Assange as the worst that they have ever seen. Live Streaming of the hearing is limited, some crucial testimony as an audible, with the extradition case being heard in

one of the tiniest rooms in the Royal courts. And you know, it is kind of interesting when when Karen and I when we got married, we basically just lived in London for about six weeks because and you know, we didn't have any money, but we just just like one notch above a youth hostel that we're staying. But we did all the free stuff, and one of the free things you know, we'd hang out at the Speaker's corner, watch the debates and stuff. We would go to Parliament and watch them debate

and have Thursdays was questions to the Prime Minister. I guess they still do that. But we went one day to the Criminal Court, the Old Bailey, and you queue up in a line, and you don't know if you're going to get in, and if you get in, you don't know which case you're going to go to, and so and so you said, we just kind of dropped in on this one case. It was very interesting, the one that we happened to get into, because it had a lot of

international intrigue and involved the CIA. It involved Malta, not the Falcon, not the Maltese Falcon, but it was equally mysterious and we sitting there trying to figure out, you know, what's going on. We're jumping in the middle of this trial because you can't. The reason I mentioned this is you can't, at least of the Old Bailey, go back to a particular the public gallery. You can't go back and say, well, I want to I want to go back to this trial I was listening to yesterday. You

don't know which one you're going to go to? And so it was getting really really interesting. And then someone was mentioned about the CIA and something had happened in Malta, and the judge or some guy that's there says, stop, stop, stop, judge, we can't talk about this. Claire the courtroom and we got kicked down just as it was getting good, and just as they started to talk about the CIA. And so we go back and

requll what Julian Assine was saying back in twenty eleven about war. This is one of the reasons they put him there, because the goal is not to completely subjugate Afghanistan. The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tech spaces of the United States, out of the text basis of European countries, through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transfestional security of it. That is the goal ID. The goal is to have an endless war,

no more successful war. Oh yeah, that's right. And so Hillary Clinton said, can't we just drone this guy? Yeah. Bablin B had their take on the Trump Golden slippers laughing about yesterday. Their take on it was that Hillary Clinton then come up with a new line of cement shoes that you tried them many times, never had any complaints come, none of them were ever returned. But yeah, no return policy, not just for the shoes, but for the person who's wearing the cemit shoes from Hillary Clinton.

So she says, can't we just drone this guy? So I said, you know, when Juliana sign Train looked at Trump, he said, well, we know that Hillary Clinton is a murderer, and we know that she's hopelessly corrupt. He says, we don't know wh what Trump is. We'll find out. Well, Trump is the guy who initiated the process, is going to keep you in prison for the rest of your life and kill you. We found out who Trump is. I found out who Trump is. I said the same thing about it. It's like, well, yeah,

we don't like Hillary Clinton. This guy's never held public office before. We got a lot of big warning signs about his integrity. His integrities were flashing like a neon sign at one of his casinos, and his integrity problems were flashing like that. But you know, we now know who he is. A sign she has been threatened with a drone strike by Hillary Clinton, having laid the blame in twenty fifteen for the creation of ISIS by American destabilization of

the Middle East, including Clinton's worle in the destruction of Libya. And as a matter of fact, some of the stuff that was leaked out there, never forget the fact that Hillary Clinton is some of those emails that Wiki Leaks put out there, we saw that they were coming after at Afi at that time. I mean, the guy had literally been a terrorist. He'd blown

up airplanes and things like that. But after you know Reagan, you know, sending cruise missiles and things like that, blowing up tents and some of his family members, he stopped with that stuff and he started focusing on making Africa independent. They had a large amount of gold there, have a tremendous

reservoir of water that they had. And the emails we saw from Wiki leaks, we saw that the European central bankers are very concerned about the competition that Kadafi with his gold standard currency was going to go into competition with these central bankers and their fiat currency, and so that's why they wanted to take him

out. According to Hillary Clinton and some of the leaked memos, her remark about droning Julian Assange was reported by WikiLeaks in October twenty sixteen, citing evidence from a US State Department memo and report from True Pundit October two, twenty

sixteen, detailed the exchange. Following Clinton's alleged drone proposal, another controversial remedy was floated in the State Department to place a reward or bounty on Assannge's capture and extradition to the United States. Numbers were discussed in the realm of a ten million dollar bounty, and the report also noted the bizarre atmosphere of the US State Department under Hillary Clinton. A State Department source described that staff meetings

were bizarre. One minute, staffers were inquiring about the secretary's blue and black checkered knit sweater, and the next minute the room was discussing the legalities of a drone strike on Assange and of the financial bounties. That's what happens when you get these thetalitarian girl bosses together. Should we talk about the sweater or should we talk about our assassinations? I don't know, We'll just alternate.

An independent campaign that challenges media bias is how they describe themselves. Fair is the name fai R found almost ten times a number of mentions for the Russian dissident Alexei Navalney then for Julian Assange. As a matter of fact, I looked at this morning, and I've got all over a dozen mainstream media sites that I go to, things like CNN, BBC, NPR, USA Today, Washington Post, New York Times, things like that. And so I

quickly pulled them up and did a word search on their website. Right on their homepage, I should say, are there any articles about Assange? Went through all of them? Zero? What about Navalney? Oh well, Politico had seven articles about Navalney, CNN had four, Washington Post had five. There was one article each at Fox, BBC, Guardian, USA Today, New York Times, Reuters had two articles about Navalney. All together, they

had the sites that I checked twenty six articles about Navalney. Nothing about assannge on these mainstream press organizations. Now, if you want to find out what's going on, you really got to go to social media. Why is Navalney, who has never been very popular with the Russian people so important? But a Songe is not well? Because as Songe is the West's Navalny. He is a dissident. Whether or not he is popular, he's very unpopular with

the people in power. That's what they have in common. And one of the articles that I saw about Navalney' said, oh, yeah, they secretly moved him to another prison. You know, he was there. They knew who he was, and they were talking to him, and so they moved him to this prison in the Arctic Circle and we couldn't find him. Well, it just disappeared nobody knew where he was. And then they figured out

where he was, and shortly after that they poisoned him up there. I thought, oh, okay, well, we have purpose built prisons for that, don't we. They call the Communication Management units that we'll be talking about in the third hour. So, you know, how are these things different? I compared it the very first day I talked about this, when all this stuff happened with Navalni and I didn't even realize that his signs court dates were coming up this week. But I said on Monday, I said,

so how is that any different? It's the same thing. We do the same things. You know, we imprison journalists. We know people die in prison in America that are dissidents and so forth. Why is that different, Well, because it's us, we're special. So New York Times was one paper which cooperated what WikiLeaks described as a two million dollars smear campaign against Julian

Assange. Let me interject here that you know, we go back and we look at the journalist Gary Webb who exposed a part of the you know, the the crack cocaine up and they making how they were using that to fund secret wars in Central and South America. At first he got journalistic awards, and then they created a smear campaign. Not the New York Times, but they used the La Times to smear him. And after they smeared him and got him fired from a lot of different places, then he started to make

his comeback. And then when he started to make his comeback, just like Navalney, he was murdered. They said it was suicide. No, he was making his comeback. Then if you look at the how he died, it was not suicide. Elizabeth Voss for Consortium News reported in twenty twenty three how corporate media has repeated smears against Assange showed the legacy news media is not

simply a second rate form of journalism in comparison with wicked leaks. But it is intentionally opposite, and so, in other words, wicked leaks tells you the truth. They lie to you in order to start wars, as he said. But you know, now, supposedly Tucker's figured this out after working

for these sources for the longest time. By the way, when they did that with the La Times, they had several dozen reporters that were working on going after Gary Webb because it was a pretty big and there were other sources that verified what he had to say and big sources who talked about that. As a matter of fact, the guy who was at the very center of pushing this out so that he was put up to do it. It was a guy's name, the rap guy anyway, had the same name as a

rapper. But he made a lot of money doing it. He went to prison for doing it. He exposed that the CIA was a part of this as well, validated web day Gary Webb did so anyway. In twenty seventeen, early on the Trump administration, Trump was reportedly willing to negotiate a pardon for a songe if he could work out if he would out the sources of

the DNC emails and if he would disprove Russiagate once and for all. In August of twenty sixteen, as Songe made comments on Dutch television that all but admitted that the source of the DNC emails was the murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich. So why not admit the identity of a dead source, if indeed it was Rich, why not disprove Russiagate? Why not do this for Trump so

that he could get what is freedom? Well? Because Wikileak's obligation, according to Assigns, was the absolute protection of sources, no matter the cost. It is a principle that may prove to cost the award winning journalist his life. You see, Trump is about Trump, is about things that reflect for Trump. He is about Trump. He's incapable of acting, as his lawyer said, except out of his own perceived self interest or revenge. The world is not going to be changed by Trump or people of his ilk. Self

serving narcissistic politicians will not change the world for the better. They will change it for the worse. There's going to be people who stand on their principles, even if it cost them their life. It will change this world. Wiki leaks. I love Wiki eliks. During the twenty sixteen election campaign, Donald Trump repeatedly extolled the leaker of the Democrats seeks and reveled in the damage he believed Wiki leaks would do to Hillary Clinton's campaign. This WikiLeaks is like

a treasure Trump. It's a different story now that Julian Assange is under arrest and facing a criminal conspiracy charge for the theft of official US secrets Wiki leaks. I know nothing about Wiki leaks. It's not my thing, and I know nothing really about him. I don't really have any opinion. Trump's longtime friend and advisor Roger Stone has boasted that he kept the Trump campaign in direct touch with a Songe he faces criminal charges for trying to cover up his contacts

with WikiLeaks. He became a willing player with the Russian Stone. Democrats are hoping in a songs Bob Menendez means they'll get some man goldbar was going on between Russia, WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign. I think is very good for us to finally get him. Mention on us soil, Joe Minchin. You can investigate, we can basically cross examine. We can find out the facts that only he knows, and his connections and how he basically distributed his information.

Wiki Leaks believes that's the whole game. That the charge today is an attempt to get a songe extradited to the US on one crime and then force him to testify or be prosecuted on other things. So Keith, it seems clear there's been an evolution in the way Trump perceives Assage. But there was a time when Americans were really divided. I mean, you know, was the this is Canadian Broadcasting Corporation US national security? Is that still the case?

Well, not to the extent it was, And that's because of what we've learned with the passage of time. Massage really does seem to focus more on exposing US secrets than those of other countries such as Russia or China. And in the twenty sixteen election, he seemed clearly to be a Russian tool in the stination of the Clinton campaign emails now speaking tools the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and the twenty twenty election was running that are they tools? You better

believe they are tools. And you noticed in that video, yeah, Joe Manchin, oh yeah, we got to get Julian Massage back, why was Joe Manchin's name being floated around because folks, he's owned by the CIA, like the rest of them. Right, if they float your name around there, if they promote you, and of course they can promote you even by

attacking you as we see with Trump. But if they promote you, and you know, you're allowed to compete in the pageant, the beauty pageant that we call an election, if you're allowed to do that by the US Empire, by the CIA, the intelligence communities, well then that's kind of a tell. And he'd already told everybody where he stood, publicly identified himself. Interesting that Menendez would say, well, we're going to have to have some

criminal charges against Roger Stone because he's been in contact with Julian Massage. Uh. Yeah, Bob Menendez, who has been up for multiple indictments of allegations of bribery. The FBI found all the goal bars and all the rest of this stuff there. That guy, that guy, Yeah, he's going to do the investigation for integrity. Washington is just so hopelessly corrupt, and so is the media, all completely owned by the real government that never changes,

the CIA. So going back to some of the things that Julian Assige has said. Nearly every war, he said that started in the last fifty years, has been the result of media wize. The media could have stopped it if they hadn't reprinted government propaganda. He'said populations don't like wars and they have to be fooled into wars. If we had a good media environment, then

we would also have a peaceful environment. It's my opinion. He said that the media are so bad that we have to question whether or not we would be better off without them altogether. Yeah, you don't have to watch them. The problem is we don't want to start picking and choosing who gets the talk. You know, I would never cancel, for example, CNN or MSNBC. They are a useful example of what the government wants to push, so you kind of know the opposite of the truth, so as they point

out here. The former Finance Minister of Greece spoke of his recent vision a visit to Assange. He said Singe has been suffering twenty three hours of daily solitary confinement and the course this has been going on for him for twelve years, twelve years. This is the same kind of treatment that our CIA government

wants to do to the January sixth people as well. If you care for your right to know what your government is doing behind your back, then you must support Julian Assange, because Julian Nossige is dying for your right to know what your government is doing on your behalf. And you've got people who are in jail life sentences dying because they have the audacity to criticize the government's elections

that have always been corrupt. It's just that they were foolishly going to bat for the man who had locked them down with medical martial law preceding year. So again, today is the second day of the hearings, these extradition hearings that are going to happen, and he is indicted also now with the nineteen

seventeen Espionage Act. This is something that characterizes the Obama administration. You know, he finished his eight years in twenty and seventeen, right, and so Obama in his eight years as president used the Espionage Act against more people than all the other presidents combined in that last one hundred years from nineteen seventeen to

twenty seventeen, he had more people charged of that. He went after people like Bill Bennie, He went after people like Thomas Drake, these NSA whistleblowers. He accused them of the violation of the Espionage Act, Sowed and all the rest of these people. So they have come after him for that, for the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, for publishing classified military documents and so

forth. And it is interesting that again, you know Obama with the heavy CIA connections in his family, Bill Barr with the heavy connections in his life with the Bush family. George H. W. Bush brought in to fix to restore the CIA after the hearings that were not about heart attack, guns and assassinations. The hearings of the church hearings and the Pike hearings were about the CIA and the NSA spying and American citizens. And out of that we

got the FISA Act and the FISA Court. And then they turned around and used that to rubber stamp their surveillance of mister and missus Rise. In other words, they had all of these hearings and supposedly changes at the CIA, and what came out of it was something to stop them from spying on the American public, which they've been doing from their inception. Instead, what they'd use, then, is that act to give them legal cover for that.

John Rizzo, who was the lawyer for the CIA, he invented this euphemism of enhanced interrogation, and he said, I watched those hearings when I was a young lawyer, and I looked at it and it's like they need a good lawyer. And so he decided that he could to work for the CIA to help them lie better. He wrote his book called it Company Man, because the CIA always referred to himself as the company and he was a company man. That's exactly what he did. And so Bill Barr was a company

man as well. Bill Barr worked with George HW. Bush to help rebuild a CIA in its reputation after all of that exposure. And then when George H. W. Bush gets appointed by the CIA as president, he brings Bill Barr in with him as a very young attorney general. And as soon as Trump put in this CIA shill, you don't think that the CIA controls Trump. As soon as Trump put in this CIA shill, it's only a couple months later that all this stuff rolled out in twenty nineteen against Julian Assange.

And Bill Barr knew how to how to get his partners in the Five Eyes to grab him and to put him put these charges against him. So, his wife, Stella Sossannge has warned that if a judge rules against Assigne, he could be on a plane to US soil in a matter of days. Here is what his wife is saying. In the United States is abusing its legal system in order to hound and prosecute and intimidate all of you. What's at stake is the ability to publish the truth and expose crimes when they're

committed by states. The outcome of this hearing today will make it clear the extent of the cover up the only fair I shouldn't even talk about fairness at this stage because the country that's trying to extradite him thought it to murder him in the United States. Yeah, and so isn't it interesting? Weh she

talks about crimes being connected by the state. One of the key things that really bothered them was that film called it's been named Collateral Murder where you see the US military's gunship and the video that they obtained from it where they're watching

people. They got a journalist and a bunch of other people, civilians that they shoot up, and then they wait until the clearly marked medical ambulance shows up and they put the people that have already been shot up into that ambulance, and then they let loose again and shoot up the ambulance with the dying people inside. Collateral murder. US Army helicopter crews laughing as they gunned down a group of Iraqi civilians, including journalists and children and even the medics that

are there. And so they published that that was a crime. That was a crime. Now did anybody get charge of the crime for that after we saw that? No, what happens when you've got an institution, Like I said, any institution can have bad people in it. You know, we talk about the police, or in this particular case, to talk about the military. It's not an indictment of the institution to talk about the bad people that are there. It becomes an indictment of the institution when the institution doesn't

do anything about the bad people, when it protects them. When in the case of the FBI, and you got ln Horyucci who assassinates a Randy Weaver's wife holding a baby in her arms, and then they give lan Horiyucci a medal. Okay, we can forget about the FBI now as having any integrity. And so when they embraced this as they did with the Clateral murder, instead of coming after the people who did the murder and who laughed about it, they come after the guy who tells you the truth about the murder.

And then when you look at Vault seven, for example, other people broke in and got Vault seven, which was the CIA blueprint. We just had a guy, Joshua Schulte who's been sentenced to forty years in prison for giving Wiki leaks Vault seven, and other people got it as well, And so

Joshua Shulte is kind of like the Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon papers. But they want to now come after the people who published it Wiki Leaks, unlike you know, the New York Post of Washington, the New York Times of Watcher Post and so vall seven, which they will talk about how this guy's going to jail for forty years recipeonage, but they don't want you to know the Vault seven. What Wiki Leaks published at first was the manual of how

you could use it. Then somebody else published the code and so then eventually WikiLeaks was when ahead Him published the codes, it was already out there. But what it showed us with a manual was that they had tools to break in to anyone anywhere and make it look the c I can make it look like they're Russians or Chinese or North Koreans or anyone, anyone friend or foe.

They could hack and disguise it. And they didn't really want you to know that because they're saying, if there's a cyber hack, a cyber attack against our infrastructure, then that's grounds for war, kinetic war, shooting war, and how do we determine that? Well, what Vault seven showed was that you can never be sure who did it, But we always have these certain pronouncements in the media, don't we. Oh, they know right away who did it, whatever happened, they know right away. You can't trust

any of this stuff. Any of it could be a false flag attack. And so he tells you the truth about that. So what they do They charge him with a conspiracy to do computer hacking. Vault seven shows that that's what they're all about, conspiracy to do computer hacking and to use a computer hacking to start wars as well. Zarah Headsha reported that The Guardian has meanwhile commented on US authorities attempts to bully journalists who worked with a Songe to turn

against him. At least four well known journalists have been approached by the Metropolitan Police on behalf of the FBI. James Ball is ex Wikileak's colleague who's now with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, David Lay, the former Guardian and Observer journalist, Heather Brooke, a freedom of information campaigner, and Andrew o'hagen, who has been commissioned to ghost write Assinge's autobiography. All of them have declined

to cooperate with the FBI. In an article for Rolling Stone last year, Ball said that he had first been approached in twenty twenty one and subjected to pressure, including the threat of being prosecuted himself. O'hagen said that although he had differences with Assnge, he would happily go to jail rather than assist the FBI. I would only add he said that the attempt to punish Asinge for exposing the truth is an attack on journalism itself. I noticed that none of

those mainstream collaborators who published his material. The New York Times published his stuff, published some of the same stuff that Wiki leaks had The Guardian Despiegel. None of them are being pursued, which demonstrates a generational bias against Internet based journalism is at the heart of this case, and of course it is at the heart of that UK legislation and what they want to do in the United

States as well. All of the five IC countries US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, they will all be doing this type of thing. So you know, people who understand and of course the people who are going to stand on principle are going to be the people going to change things, not these line grifting politicians who are controlled by the CIA and acting in their unperceived self interest. President, do you still love WikiLeaks? I know nothing about wiki leaks. It's not my thing. Wow, wiki leaks.

I love wiki leaks. WikiLeaks, the WikiLeaks documents show the Hillary Clinton documents released by WikiLeaks. Today, WikiLeaks release new emails, secret speeches released by wiki links the WikiLeaks revelations through WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks wiki leaks. Of course, he didn't know that there was a thing called WikiLeaks, right, Do you still love WikiLeaks. I know nothing about wiki leaks. It's not my thing. I know nothink. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is.

It's a corporal Schultz or the CIA. He doesn't wear the uniform of the CIA like Shultz wore the uniform of the Nazis. But he works for the CIA, and he works for himself and capable of actually except out of his own self interest. Ed Snowden said, the outrageous part of the UK ye, the UK's years long trial to condemn Juliana Sane to die in an American dungeon is that the victim of his crime, quote unquote crime, which is journalism, is a state rather than a person, the definition of a political

offense which the US and UK extradition treaty explicitly forbids. His crime is against the state against America. And they have an extradition treaty between the UK and US which expressly forbids the extradition of somebody for a political crime. And he says to every political leader and journalist making and writing speeches, you can't save Navalney. You can still save Assange if you were silent here when and where

you can actually influence the outcome. You were never standing up for principles, You were just hoping for applause and of course for money. So we will have more to say about this coming up in the third hour. I want to get into something some of the politics that are happening here, because there's some very interesting things that transcend at the center of what is happening to Trump. And again we look at these things that are happening to Trump, and

what is happening in New York is wrong. There was no victim, but guess what, they have a law in New York that doesn't require there to be a victim. So this is far beyond judicial prejudice, is far beyond law fair people who are out of control in the court system. The legislature there put that line. And then when we look in Georgia, we got Fanny there, and take a look at this woman who focuses and is known for doing racketeering and corruption. She's involved in a little bit of that herself.

As a matter of factured apartment is stealing money left and right from people with civil asset forfeiture laws. And yet what does she have at home? She brags about how she's got the stash of cash and she's paying off her her little boyfriend and stacks of cash. See, these are the types that nobody wants to talk about civil asset forfeiture for you and I. Nobody wants to talk about swat team rates. They want to talk about, Oh, look, they did a video raid of mar A Lago, but they don't

care about the swat team rates. They're done against us, and some of the people are saying, well, look at what they did to Trump. That means it's going to be difficult to do business in New York, WA. We should have paid attention to what was happening in your state instead of being focused on something that you have no control over. Forget about Washington, especially the presidency. You don't have any control over who is running the CIA,

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I see people do that. I understand why they're doing it, but you know, I'm it bothers me to see people's self censor really does bother me to see that. So let's see where was I I want to There's something I wanted to talk about. I can't quite remember what it was here. Let's talk a little about Okay, let's do this. Let's talk about what is going on at Maga Lago, which I think is going to be the new name for mar A Lago. Just call it Maga Lago. Oh,

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give you links to where you can find the audio podcast as well. Okay, so let's talk about what is going on with the Trump administration, and before we get into what is happening at Maga Lago, this whole thing about the half a billion dollar judgment, and Reason really nailed this in this article how a New York judge arrived at the staggering order that he called a disgorgement. A disgorgement isn't that interesting? You know? When they steal your car

or your cash, or your home or something like that. Don't charge you with a crime, let alone convict you. Right when they you know, no charge, no conviction, but the just take it. They call it a civil forfeiture. So now this judge is calling this a disgorgement. Isn't that interesting how they keep coming up with these novel terms. But it is actually not just bad politicized courts. It is also a bad law that is the basis of this, that allows him to do this. And so it's

going to be difficult. Actually, I think as I looked at this, it's going to be difficult for Trump to appeal this. But as Ulysses Grant once said and again before our current presidents, he was always considered by historians to have the most corrupt administration of any president before recent times. Ulysses Grant, also known as a US grant, he kept the money flowing, didn't He just like a regular US grant to all kinds of people, all kinds

of corruption. But one of the things that he said that really stuck with me. He said, the way you get rid of a bad law is to rigorously enforce it, and that is always sometimes that that may happen to this. This is a bad law being rigorously enforced by this judge and this Attorney General, Letitia James. This law does not require proof that anyone was injured. You know, this is one of the things everybody's looking like, what is going on? How in the world could this be fraud? The

banks were paid off. The banks said they did their own due diligence. Trump had a disclaimer there that you know, hey, you know, do your own due diligence. And they did, and they made the look they moved down his you know, lowered his projected net worth. The said, yeah, we'll make the loan anyway. Yeah, he's inflating this stuff. But and Travis is telling me, remind people like the stream, please like the stream about that. Travis that good? Okay, Sakes said, yes,

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C in hell thereafter. Thanks for offering him no quarter. I agree, I agree, and i' and I say, you know, even though this is I said this about Dennis Hastert, the pedophile who was groomed for Congress and then put in as Speaker of the House. Long as serving and GOP. He went on many times as other GOP people were outed as sexual pedophile predators, and he went on with rush. So I know this is all politics. All the rest is no, it was real. But they didn't

put him in jail for the pedophilia. They put him in jail for something that was not a crime, making his own money out of the bank and measure amounts they call that structuring, so that there would not be a report. As long as he kept it under a certain amount, there would not be any scrutiny of that. So he did that. They sent him to

jail for that. And so Trump, who poisoned, who sent this shot around the world poisoning and killing people, his lockdown, all the rest of the things that he did, the medical death protocol that he paid the hospitals to enforce. Nobody's coming after him for that. Why well, because all the GOP were involved in it. All the Democrats are involved in it. Biden continued, these policies, they're not going to come after each other over

that, so they're going to come after him over a non crime. But it is important for us to look at this because these types of things are going to hit everybody. Jonathan Turley was right. He says, this is something that's hanging over the head of anybody that does business in the state of New York. Now, this bad law. Now, of course we have selective enforcement. I will only use it against their political enemies, you see.

But the law itself is a real problem. When the interest that in Goron also approved is considered, the total penalties are going to rise two four hundred and fifty million dollars on its face, a penalty of nearly half a billion dollars, says reason. It's hard to fathom given that no lender or ensure claimed that it suffered a financial loss as a result of the transactions at

the center of the case brought by your Contentery General Letitia James. But the law under which she sued Trump and his co defendants does not require any such loss. The money demanded by the judge's ninety two page decision is styled not as damages but as quote disgorgement, disgorgement like they're going to make Trump vomit this up, and ill gotten of ill gotten gains, disgorgement of ill gotten gains. It is aimed not at compensating people who are allegedly harmed by his

misrepresentations, but at deterring dishonesty that threatens the financial marketplace. Because we all know that New York City is a pinnacle of honesty and integrity, and we all know the same as true of Wall Street. We wouldn't want to damage their reputations, would we by inflating the value of assets. Proving common law fraud, wrote the judge in Goron requires and I'm not even sure if I you. I've read so much about this guy who says I know him by

I know his name, I know his face. I've never I don't listen to any news, so I don't pronounce his name. I hope I've got it right. So if I got it wrong, you can write me and tell me the right way to say. It requires establishing that the defendant made a quote material statement unquote that he knew to be false, and that the plantiff justifiably relied on that statement, and that he suffered loss as a result.

That would be common law fraud. And so everybody's looking at this and they say, wait a minute, if you lie, somebody relies on that and they have a damage, that's clear. None of that really, you know, those last two things didn't happen here. Even if he made a

material misstatement, nobody was damaged by doing that. However, by contrast, this law, section sixty three to twelve of New York's Executive While, by contrast, authorizes the Attorney General to sue any person who engages and repeated fraudulent or illegal acts or otherwise demonstrates persistent fraud or illegality and the carrying on or conducting of the transaction of business. And he writes in his ninety two page

decision in Goern says, the statute casts a wide net. It defines fraud to be any device, scheme, or artifice to defraud, and any deception, misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false pretense, false promise, or unconscionable

contractual provisions. See, this is a problem a law that is that broad, just like a law that is sufficiently complex is like not having any law at all, and it can be used by people like as Judge and like Letitia James to come after their political enemies, which is what has happened. There's a lesson to be learned here. Again, going back to that this is a state problem. As I said over and over again, the state can be worse than the federal government, as it is in New York City,

right, New York is worse than the federal laws. Yeah, they have all that plus a lot more, just like this, and if you don't pay attention to what's going on at the state and local level, it can be actually worse than the federal government. If you do pay attention,

it's a possibility that it could be better. We saw this happening over and over again in twenty twenty with people who interposed over these Trump incentives to lock people down, people who nullified this stuff, people who refuse to be bribed by Trump to institute medical martial law. So better pay attention to the state level. That's the point of me talking about this. Even Trump would have been better served to pay attention to state and local stuff instead of getting involved

in national politics. Timely and total repayment of loans does not extinguish the harm that these false statements inflict on the marketplace. As that judge in Gharan, that's the way he pronounce his name, he says, it's all the more reason that we have to strive for honesty and transparency. And it is undisputed that defendants have made all of the required payments on time. But the next group of lenders to receive bogus statements might not be so lucky. So this

is like a pre crime thing, like a pre crime thing. So just just think about that. You know, yeah, they all got paid, but you know that might not happen in the future. And we don't want somebody who is out there, you know, inflating his assets. We don't want that to go on. It's always you know, all New York businesses now threatened by this Trump precedent. Well, he is a precedent, and so many times he is still precedent, isn't he. He's still establishing these

presidents. This is what Jonathan Turley says, But it's not really Yes, it is a precedent in the sense that they've now enforced it against somebody that have now enforced it selectively against the political enemy. But it was always a bad law and nobody noticed it. And so what he's doing is he's enforcing, rigorously enforcing that bad law. So the question is, are they going to apply the US grant standard to it? Are they going to now get

rid of this rigorously enforced bad law. Jonathan Turley said many businesses are likely wondering, but for the grace of God go I. Undervaluating or valuing property is a common practice, particularly in real estate. That is why representations like the one made by the Trump Corporation come with a warning that estimates are their own and that the banks need to make their own assessments. He said, the line between doing business and a public execution appears to be the dubious discretion

of Letitia James. We've seen this before as well. Interestingly, you go back to the pandemic and Letitia James came against Alex Jones and against Who's Baker James Jim Baker the tell of evangelists. Who's out of jail, But you know he's doing other things now. Anyway, both of them had silver. Now, look, I'm not aware of any representations that either of them made that silver was going to cure the imaginary pandemic virus. But hey, if

you got an imaginary pandemic, can I have an imaginary cure? I mean, what's wrong with that? It's kind of like the Wag the Dog scenario where they make up this guy and now we're going to bring him home, and then they make up another story to say, oh no, he is his plane crashed on the way home. You know, we gotta put this together for old shoe. Well, the bottom line is that silver is good in terms of killing you know, pathogens and things like that has been demonstrated.

They use it to this day for burn victims. You know, they have a sav that they put on people with burn victims keep them from getting infected in that type of thing. But she just said, well, if you talk about silver, I'm going to shut this hand. So Alex just pulled all this silver product, even the toothpaste, which again, if you get silver in your toothpaste, that's going to get rid of you know, bacteria and nasty things in your mouth. Sad to see that go, but

that was the Tisha James. She is arbitrary, capricious, and ruthless in what she does. Very political, as well. And so then when we look at Trump and the an abortion I find this to be interesting because you had people pro life people and his evangelical congress gation that follows him around saying

that Trump wants to have a sixteen week national ban on abortions. And I've said before that I think, first of all, that's unconstitutional, and I think from a pragmatic standpoint, it's unconstitutional for the same reason that Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional. Always said that Dobbs, the Court agreed with what

I had been saying for many years. I'm sure that they didn't know what I was saying it, but I always said the Tenth Amendment says that there is no authority for the federal government of any branch to decide when life begins. That murder, which is what we're talking about here, is something that

belongs to the states to regulate. And I've also said from a pragmatic standpoint that if you come up with some national line, some national sixteen weeks or whatever it is, that is well beyond what it is already in many pro life states. And what will happen is the states where they push abortion California, New York, people like that, they are going to ignore this law,

just like they ignore now marijuana prohibition. Marijuana is still a Schedule one drug in the War on Drugs, but they ignore it because there's no constitutional authority for Congress to outlaw that unless they have a constitutional amendment like they did with alcohol. And so there is no authority for the for Congress, for Republicans or anybody else to outlaw abortion or to enable it to you know, to stop people from enforcing laws against abortion, which is what Roe v.

Wade did. But this is something that's being put out by the Trump campaign. I'll just say this that as the Democrat states will ignore a lower limit, you better believe that when the Democrats get power and they raise that limit or get away with it altogether, that the Republican states will follow suit and they'll say, well, that's the supreme law Bland and we have to obey it, even though it isn't. So this was kind of interesting because this

is the way the Trump campaign works. You've got somebody inside the campaign or people are allied with it, and they put campaign promises out there that are not coming from the candidate. You know, it's one thing when you know Trump promises to fix the border, and he doesn't do it right. But now they've got surrogates who out there making his campaign promises for him, and so as this was happening, it gives him an opportunity to pull back from it. So he can, you know, other people can say, oh,

no, he really is going to do this. It's ford chs, you know, just like alex is telling everybody it's not a bad vaccine. It's really just sugar water. He's got his surrogates out there lying to you so about what he's going to do, and then he can go out and say, now, since he's got surrogates making these claims, he can tell the media, no, that's not me, that's not my position. Major pro life organizations have offered differing reactions to a recent report that Trump privately expressed

for a sixteen week national abortion ban. According to a Friday report from The New York Times, two unnamed sources with ties to the Republican front runner alleged that the idea of a sixteen week abortion ban with exceptions for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. The article states that Trump said in a private conversation that he likes sixteen weeks as a cutoff, because it's an even four months. That sounds like something he would say. So this is

how they work again the Washington Post. Instead, according to Trump's team, Trump has not made a decision about whether he would support a national ban, and he's also stated that he would not be tied down to a specific number of weeks. There you go, see he can You know, these people put out leaks that he's really going to do this, and he denies a publica and they say he's just playing forty chess. He's just got to get

elected. He's got to say that as president. Trump has stated he would sit down with both sides and negotiate deal that everybody will be happy with. That his spokesperson, you know, like the video I've shown you many times of him setting down with the Democrats. He's got Chuck Schumer there and Diane Feinstein. We're going to do something everybody's happy with. Can you do that? Yeah, we can do that. We can run this thing through,

and he does it by executive order gun control. He blamed the Republican Party's position on abortion for his losses during the twenty twenty two midterm elections. It wasn't him. It was the babies that they saved. That's why people that want to vote for Republicans. It was this odious albatross tied around the neck of the party called Donald Trump. No, it was the innocent babies' lives that were saved. That's why you didn't win your election, this good Christian

man. He also criticized DeSantis for signing a law banning abortions after the baby's heartbeat becomes detectable, calling it too harsh. So who are you going to believe? Well, Wine Press had an interesting story about the Maga prophets. They're getting weirder and weirder. False prophet claims Trump possesses the Arc of the Covenant in mar A Lago. Yeah, that's it. We all know that's

where it got sent. Right, They are walking out of mar A Lago looking back as where it was maybe and this actually they must be taking it in and storing it with all the documents. That's what's happened to this. Yeah, the idolatry for Trump, and now it's all about the fact that he's got a replica of the Arc of the Covenant. There at what I think we should start calling Maga Lago, the Temple of Maga, the Temple of Gloom. I guess we could say the Raiders of the Lost Document as

well as the Arc. Wine Press says, as I said, the idolatry we see for Trump is just wild, and it fits the bill for the cult of personality. And it's been covered here Wine Press before. The blasphemies, either attributed to Trump or the ones that Trump himself makes are simply gross reprehensible, his latest being endorsing an AI generated post that refers to Trump as quote the shepherd of mankind who will neither leave nor forsake them a title of

our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I mean, having to type that out is so putrid it makes me want to hurl a form of disgorgement. I guess we could say the New York good Judge laying aside all the things that belied Trump of being this anti establishment outsider who was fighting globalist and draining the swamp, you know, his warm angering the fact that he did what the swamp. He left the swamp the way that it was. He didn't

change anything. He enacted the globalist COVID war against all of us. The economic sanctions, trillions of dollars in debt, his stimulus checks that were really an early introduction of universal basic income, and all the corruption that was accompanying all that she said. Today, I was made aware of this false prophet on a podcast that came out claiming that Trump possesses the arc of the Covenant in Maga Lago. Yeah. It was presented by Pete Santilly. Pete Sentilly

and I we had go back to the Bundy Ranch standoff. That guy as something else anyway, And it was put on at Info Wars. Here's somebody who absolutely hated Info Wars. He would show up and bullhorn Info Wars are in live broadcast and anything. But now he and Alex have kissed him made up. Ain't gonna happen with me. I guarantee you it ain't gonna happen to me. There's no way. I don't think Alex wants to kiss and makeup. I guarantee you that I'm not going to. But here's a Pete's

intel this broadcast and he has it with Don Dona Clement. Petrushka was a person who's talking there. Look at that thumbnail. This is obviously something that is not a real shot. This is Donald Trump bending over with hands together as if he were praying in front of the arc of the Covenant. That's why he's got it there, Manerolgo. I think he just likes things that

are gold. I think I think he just can't get enough gold. And so this is what Pete sent Tilly was selling people absolutely insane and he got ravaged by the comments that were there. But anyway, Winepress says, after I picked myself off of the floor from laughter, I watched a few minutes just to humor them, and Pete Sentilly showed a picture of this lady. She's referring to Looney Lumer, Laura Lumer. And is that that there's Laura

Lumer standing next to the Trump arc of the Covenant? That is there, Laura Lumer, Looney Lumer standing next to a supposed replica. And Donnie Clement Petrushka, the woman that you saw in that thumbnail, claim that she saw it also at mar A Lago. I'm sorry, Maga Lago. Pete Senttill he claims that Israel gave President Trump a replica of the real thing, which they don't have because you know, it's in the government warehouse that we saw

there. Patrushka says that her father prophesied many times of a parallel blessing that God would send on both America and Israel. Yes, God put Donald Trump where he is. The question is is Donald Trump a blessing or a curse? And then of course this was also put on display at mar A Lago, and you had James O'Keefe who now refers to himself and his media organization

as o MG. So he got his h Yeah, you're supposed to be astonished, you know, the OMG thing of everything he's got out of there, so is his blasphemy, and him standing there a perfect replica of the Arc of the Covenant. By the way he spells that wrong. He's got it arc instead of ark. That's an that's a box, a box an arc ark twenty seven hundred hours of labor and six pounds of gold. Uh so. And then you have other people who posted up the fact that this

is the most valuable and sought after item. You know, even the Nazis wanted it. According to Steven Spielberg, I'm going to give him special special powers. Except sometimes these people. If you go back and read the Bible, sometimes the people who kidnap this, certain things happen. I wonder if we're going to find a gold statue of Donald Trump on its face, with its head and hands broken off, like the Philistines did when they picked the

Arc of the Covenant. A close second would be a list of the subjects and truth that authoritary minded are AI sponsors have instructed their chatties to bear false witness about, in other words, leakers and whistleblowers. That list is the unholy grail. The one who gets it, who gets a hold of this arc and who spreads it, will rip down the veil that was already ripped

and accelerate the awakening above and beyond anything else imaginable. Well, back to wine Press, she says, apparently this is purportedly created by an avid supporter of Trump, displayed at Maga Lago during a dinner party, and that's evidently where O'Keefe and Looney Lumer took their pictures. If true, says wine Press, it proves once again the absolute blasphemy of Trump is sacrilege, and his diehard proselytes are willing to commit for him. So who is this? Miss

Petrushka interviewed by Pete Sintilly. She says she's part of a ministry called House of Destiny, founded by her dad, Kim Clement. The so called church wants to encourage you to achieve your destiny quote unquote, according to their website. Furthermore, on their statement of faith, the church believes, quote we do not bring discrimination or judgment, but we inspire hope, bringing restoration to

life and often healing from the past. So, in other words, they're just like the prosperity Gospel people with he gets us that Super Bowl ad. You know, forget about sin, forget about removing the penalty of sin or the power of sin. No, no, no, You're fine just the way you are. I wonder who would be telling you that. That's not God's message. That's It's message. We want to activate your faith so you can fulfill God's great destiny in your life. Your destiny is to leave a

legacy, and legacy is influence. Okay, So what you're after there for is influence? Is that? Well, we're all seeking in life. You know, Hillary Clinton is looking for the politics for meaning. I guess they're very much like Hillary Clinton, aren't they. Wine Press again says so Basically, it's a spin on the American gospel of health, wealth and prosperity. Self help name it and claim it a bunch of new age garbage, she

said. When this information was sent to my inbox today, somebody graciously linked the ridiculous and heretical beliefs of all these people and the myriad of false prophecies by this guy Clement Kim, for example, in twenty fifteen, one year before his death. In twenty sixteen, he tweeted that people do not need to be born again. Okay, there it is right there. Stick a screenshot of that. So Jesus said you need to be born again, but

not this guy. Not this guy. He disagrees with that. And then there was a screenshot that was sent to her screenshot taken from a YouTube video promoting Kim Clement's alleged prophecy of Trump, even though Trump is never mentioned in the prophecy. But they put this together after the fact. This is what the people at QAnon do. And you see there's Trump and kind of a quasi military uniform. You know, they've shown him dressed up like Andrew Jackson

and other things like that. She says, did you know that Kim Clement prophesied Obama would be baptized in the Holy Spirit the summer of twenty ten, that he would change all his presidential policies to richly blessed Americans. Did you know that he promised that Clement prophesied that rap artist Eminem, Arthur Stephen King, media tycoon Rupert Murdoch would all become Christian evangelists, not just Christians,

but evangelists by the end of two thousand and six. Did you know that he prophesied two thousand and seven Bill Gates would do the work of evangelism by giving a bunch of his money to fund churches. Was that he asking Gates for money by doing that? Did you know that he prophesied Rudy Giuliani would become President of the United States in two thousand and eight. After his death in twenty sixteen, his popularity started picking up steam. I guess he's going

to become another Nostra Damis. He was being hailed by more and more people as a true prophet based on his alleged twenty fourteen prediction that Trump had become president, which you never said. That screenshot that just showed you there, It's truly amazing what these people will do and how they will spend this around. And as I said, when I looked at the Pete Sentilly thing, it was like through pages of commercials in the description, and that's all they

had nothing there, no transcript or anything, just commercial commercial commercial. But then there were comments like this, the Maga crowd is blinded thinking Trump is some sort of savior. God will not share his glory with another. It is mockery in my eyes to my Lord and Savior. He is the only one who can save us. There have been interviews where Trump says that he will not ask for forgiveness because he's done nothing wrong. Another one read the

Bible done, that's the female guest of Pete Sentilli. There Russia brings gifts to the Lord and Isaiah and so forth. Therefore, the antichrist system is just as Obama is the Antichrist, and also the Muslim Mahdi. In other words, there's a lot of different antichrists out there. Is Trump the Antichrist, Well, he is an Antichrist, that's for sure. Another one Alex

promoting Trump elan and Christ energy, Christ energy. The only energy Alex puts out is from his drinking his conspiracy bourbon, and Lin listening to Metallica for horsemen, Kim Clement was a false prophet, a one new picture of the Ark of the Covenant would Trump would trigger? And then General Flynn in one gave a word for word speech proclamation of that occultist Elizabeth Claire prophet. And

I've played that for you many, many times. And so why do I talk about all this because you need to understand how this is being used Politico And there's all these you know, articles on Drudge they'll pull, they'll drudge this stuff up. Trump allies prepared to infuse Christian nationalism in a second administration. And so they focus on some of these people around Trump and some of

them say they deny the label. They say, well, this is what I believe, but they don't they want to label people as Christian nationalists. But you said, they're also using all of this q Andon, Maga, Lago, Arc of the Covenant and all the rest of the stuff. They're using all of this to attack Christians. And the purpose of all of this and the purpose of Rob Reiner's document. Rob Rein will even come out he say, well, there's a lot of Christians and evangelists who don't support Trump

and you know, and push back against this stuff. But the people who are actually out there that you know, that are engaged, the Christians who are engaged in the public sphere, we need to shut them down because they're all like Michael Flynn or Donald Trump. That's the bottom line. They want to intimidate you because they want to make you shut up. That's what this is about. If you're a Christian, just stay in the closet, don't talk about any of this stuff. And we should not be We should oppose

this stuff. We should talk about Trump, we should talk about Michael Flynn and how he's you know, plagiarizing these New Age false prophets and the rest of this stuff. We've got to talk about that and oppose it and say that's not us, that's not us. And what they want to do is they want to shut us up. You know, when I look at this, they define Christian nationalists in this Politico article that goes very very They do very long articles. They work out you know, ten twenty thirty pages to

print these things out. Christian nationalists in America believe the country was founded as a Christian nation and that Christian values should be prioritized throughout government and public life as the country has become less religious and more diverse. This guy they're focusing on, Russell Vought, has embraced the idea that Christians are under assault and has spoken of policies that he might pursue in response. Look, the free

exercise of religion is under attack. Your belief system is under attack. People are getting canceled, they're getting fired, they're getting sued. Some countries, of course, they get imprisoned because of their Christian beliefs. You look at this woman who was a high ranking government official in the past in Finland who is now on her third prosecution because she was made a comment on social media

to her church because she disagreed with him having a pride parade. So, yes, Christian persecution is speeding up, and it is part of the overall rejection of free speech and the free exercise of religion. It's an overall rejection of what is encapsulated in the First Amendment. Don't you dare go protest, don't you dare speak out, don't you dare exercise your religion? And so

this is all about continuing the putting people in a box. They intimidated people in the middle of the twentieth century with a couple of Supreme Court decisions saying that if you work for the government, you've got to get Christianity out of everything. No, you're not establishing a religion, you're exercising your faith. That's a difference between forcing somebody to attend a church, forcing somebody to pay for a church, and simply freely exercising your religion, which is part and

should be protected. And so they intimidate to people that as people are waking up to that fraud of the separation of church and state type of thing, Oh no, no, no, get any religion out of the you know, if you're a teacher, you can't have anything religious at work, and that type of thing that's now been thrown out by the Supreme Court. People are waking up to it as well, and so now they've got to find some other way to intimidate people and enter you know, Trump and his you

know, Maga cult to help this along. But when you look at this Christian nationalist and America believe the country was founded as a Christian nation, Well, of course it was, of course, it was just read the decoration of independence. If you're not completely historically illiterate, you understand that those are Christian values, and Christian value should be prioritized through government and the public life.

We're not talking about any particular religious exercise here, We're just talking about a worldview and understanding that you are accountable to God. You know, And when we look at something this simple definition like this, you know, I've been I've had problems in the past the churches that I went to that I looked at their doctrinal statement and you know, you can put down a lot

of stuff there, and the devil is in the details. You find out later, Well, yeah, we didn't address that because even maybe the elders didn't agree with what was going on with that. So when you look at their characterization of what Christian nationalism is, don't be concerned about it is simply right now. It is a They've designed this as a pejorative label, and

even Russell Voight says, well, I don't accept that label. I don't call myself a Christian nationalist, and I don't I don't accept what you are saying about this. But Politico goes on to say that Trump is not a devout man of faith. Oh that's a revelation. But Christian nationalists have been among his most reliable campaign activists and voting blocks. Trump formed a political alliance with evangelicals during his first run delivered them a six to three conservative majority on

the Supreme Court. Is now espousing the Christian rights long running argument that Christians are so severely persecuted that it necessitates a federal response. Well, it doesn't. It doesn't no matter how bad the persecution is. We need to focus on the state level. We need to focus on interposition of state and local officials, on nullification by them, on civil resistance, forget about the federal government. On the Iowa caucuses, Trump promoted on his social media video that

suggested his campaign as actually a divine mission from God. America should be recognized as a Christian nation where our rights and duties are understood to come from God, wrote Russell Voit two years ago in Newsweek. What's hundred percent true. That's the premise of the creation of independence. Our rights come from God, and it's self evident that they do. He says, it's a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not to the separation of Christianity

from its influence on government and society. He got it exactly right, but they want to label him as a Christian nationalist. He went on to accuse the people using this label of Christian nationalism of evoking the term to try to scare people. That's right. The term need not be subjected to such intense scorn due to misunderstanding or slander. It's an intimidation tactic, and that's what Rob Reiner is doing. They also go in to tie in Flynn in this

political article. Trump is talking about bringing his former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, a vocal proponent of Christian nationalism. There's nothing Christian about Michael Flynn's activism, and that's re awakened America. Understand that if Michael Flynn wants to present himself as a Christian, he needs to publicly repent of what he did

pushing transgenderism on people like that Navy seal Chris Beck in twenty fourteen. He was at the cusp of all that he and Donald Trump were leading this country pushing transgenderism in the early teens, Trump for his beauty contest and Michael Flynn at the Pentagon so shut up about them being Christians until they confront that and

acknowledge and repent from that they're not. And so Flynn is out there talking about his army of God, and he is somebody who is anybody who follows him is doing a disservice to this country and a disservice to conservatives and a disservice to Christians because this is a setup, just like January the sixth was a setup. So Rob Reiner has a different version of nationalism. I think we should call it meathead nationalism. The guy who is his only acting role,

he was routinely despised. He was supposed to be the smart guy who is going to expose Archie Bunker, the bigot, and yet everybody despised Rob Reiner, and he wasn't acting, as you can see. Now he's made some films, he said. Now he's made a film about Christian nationalism that I have mentioned in the past. He says, there's very conservative Christian evangelicals, pastors, very respected people in the Christian community that are frightened of this

Christian nationalist movement. So you should be frightened to be associated with it. You should get back in the clause at Christians and shut up because Rob Reiner is going to call you. He's going to associate you with Michael Flynn and Donald Trump and these QAnon retards out there. We showed the film that this movement was a foundation for January the sixth. They were moving elements that made January the sixth and the insurrection happen. Now weer in the house who is

an avowed Christian nationalist. Look, it is true that QAnon and Michael Flynn and a lot of the usual suspects that orchestrated that January the sixth trap are doing the same thing again with Reawakened America and the rest of this stuff. They need to be opposed with this. And of course the key part of what Rob Reiner is doing is to play the race card white Christian nationalism. So again he's gonna make everything about race. We've got some comments on here.

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We will have the full program up later today, so there's both audio and video on rumble A woots. Thank you very much for the tip. Says Trump is a treacherous coward who belongs in DC. Oh we had this before and Octo spook. Besides being documented mass murderer, liar, and UNI party member, Trump is now a shoe salesman and a huckster. Well, let's that's unfair to shoe salesman. I mean, I've known some honest shoe salesman, and they are not all the shoe salesmen are not soulless so to speak.

They're not heels either, but stealth patriot. It's easy to know why Trump is what he's going to do next. Just go read the World Economic Forum website. Yep, that's what he did in the past. He's got his freedom cities. We won't call them smart cities, we won't call them fifteen minute cities. We'll call them freedom cities. Colton Kimberly, thank you for the tip. I've noticed twin I have to watch later after the live show. All the likes go back to zero after it is posted here on

Rumble. Like yesterday, I was the sixth like, oh, well that's interesting. We don't necessarily need to repost the live show Rumble. We just leave it up there. I guess I don't know. The only thing that I just leave the live stream up afterwards, then upload a full version of the show after. Oh okay, I can put captions on it. Okay, you can't put the captions in there on the live show after it's up, No, since it doesn't quite match up in terms of length. Oh

okay, Okay, well, well we'll work out something. It probably be better to put them up and have people have a general guy. The problem when I put in the time code stuff is that they inject commercials on the audio stream and anything, so that shifts things. So those are kind of approximate. Anyway, let me just say this before I take a break. One person said, hey, meathead, Rob Reiner, meet John Quincy Adams,

a Christian nationalist son of John Adams and Abigail Adams. And so he says when you look at the life of John Quincy Adams, And as a matter of fact, I went to a junior high school that was named after this guy, He says. Reiner's work as a pale cinematic shadow of the career of our sixth president. If you want to talk about Christian nationalism, he goes, Yeah, he's got a he's got a career. He's directed a few films. He said his best film was a Few Good Men.

He said the best line out of that, out of his best film, was you can't handle the truth? Can Rob Reiner handle the truth of how we've had presidents who embraced openly embraced there and talked about their Christian beliefs, and how their Christian beliefs informed their policies and their lives and their attitudes towards

things. What's the matter with that? He says. John Quincy Adams a brilliant diplomat, a spy in chief, a master of many languages, a friend of czars, who helped to secure his country's Florida, the Pacific Northwest, freedom of speech, peace with Britain, liberty to the honisted passengers, and ultimately a nation without slavery. I'm wondering if Reiner would call Adams a Christian nationalist, he says. Reiner's own history of Christian nationalism begins in the

nineteen fifties. He says, the beginnings of this movement happened in nineteen fifty four with Brown versus the Board of Education. See this is where he plays the race card. Oh, the white Christian nationalists. This comment says, Reiner's history is ugly, meathead ugly. By the way, this is David Marshall's piece here said, two generations ago, less than one percent of white

kids attended segregated academies. That's a big swath the start of Christian nationalism quote unquote for the whole country, which demonstrates the racism of anyone who supports Trump today. Is that the way they We're going to look at this. But here's the real history, he says. The scary thing is that John Quincy Adams was a Christian nationalist. He fulfilled a promise that he made to his mother, he said, Abigail Adams, he recited the Lord's Prayer before rising.

For the rest of his life, he read his Bible, attended church religiously. Unlike Trump, he appealed to divine truth and public statements, including his attacks on slavery, and with growing fervency and power as he got older, he said, slavery is an offense against God. And so you can lump him in there with these other infamous English Christian nationalists like William Wilberforce who stopped the slave trade, who stopped slavery itself in England. Because of his

Christian values. He saw his work as a member of Parliament in terms of serving those Christian values. He was going to after become a Christian, He's going to drop out of parliament. And he talked to the guy who wrote Amazing Grace and he said no. Newton told him, he said, stay in. That's what God has called you to do. And so he made it his life's work to stop the slave trade, to stop that because of

his Christian faith. John Quincy Adams is also a dedicated historian who read and or spoke English, Greek, Latin, French, German, Hebrew, and Russian. He was arguably America's most talented and non knowledgeable diplomat. He founded the Smithsonian Institute. He said that if the state of Georgia didn't protect Creek Indians from encroachment, an obligation he said that was even higher than that of

human authority. It would force him to act. And in eighteen thirty seven address of Massachusetts, Atoms showed just how dangerous a Christian nationalists he was by linking Christmas to Independence Day. I won't read all of that to you. I'll just say this in summary, that we have to understand that people like Rob Reiner is just doing propaganda. They're ignorant of history and they're trying to

intimidate people, and we don't need to fall for that. We're going to take a quick break and when we come back, I want to start talking a little bit about before our guest joins us, I'm gonna take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk a little bit more about the Amish. No I'm not turning Amish, but they have something to tell people about the vaccine, about the food and the rest of this stuff. And there's an essay by raw Egg Nationalists that really hits this on the head. We

will be right back. Whether you're feeling like the booze or Bluegrass aps radio has you covered. Check out a wide variety of channels on our app at apsradio dot com using free speech, two free minds. It's the David Knight Show. Well, this essay is called the Price as from the Ray Nationalists. They said, we pay a price when we abandoned the ways and the wisdom of our ancestors. And he uses the Amish as an example. He said it was and this is an article that had disappeared, so he republished

it again. It was back in twenty twenty one, I believe we first published it. And at that time, Steve Kersh had gone before the Pennsylvania State Senate and he talked about how the Amish were not affected by the pandemic in spite of the fact that they didn't wear any masks, they didn't social distance, they didn't get the vaccine, they didn't do anything they were told

to do by President Facci and his assistant Donald Trump. He said the Amish died at a rate that was ninety times lower than the infection fatality rate of the rest of the US during the pandemic. Because remember a lot of people are being killed by the hospital protocols that Trump was paying the hospitals to do. They did not lock down, masked social distance. They didn't vaccinate.

There are no mandates in the Amish community to get vaccinated. They basically ignored every single guideline that the CDC gave us, and ignoring those guidelines meant a death rate there was ninety times lower than the rest of America. On this evidence, it would seem that the Amish, and not the Swedes, and not the Floridians, should serve as the control argument against to judge the success of these public health measures. A lot of people talked to Oh, well,

Florida followed this stuff a lot more, and even Sweden did. The Amish did none of what we were told, what we were forced to do, and yet they also suffered none of the disastrous consequences we were promised if we didn't wear the mask cow or inside our home for months on end and

obediately line up to be jabbed when the time came. It turns out that we were the ones being pushed into a disaster, a disaster whose consequences will ramify for many years to come, whether in the destruction of so many small businesses they were called non essential by Trump and the transfer of their hard earned wealth the corporate leviathans like Amazon who were essential, or in the unhappy lives of our younger generation, or in the myriad other painful and costly ways like

this the great poisoning as it gradually kills many people. It's not just in relation to the pandemic that the Amish present a picture of unusual health. Mister Kersh also noted that they suffered actually none of the chronic diseases that are par for the course in modern industrial societies. Nor do they suffer from conditions like ADHD, autism, autoimmune conditions, all of which have been subject to stunning rises in the recent decades. Mister Kirsch believes this is because the Amish are

not vaccinated at all. They would never release a report to the findings because the report would have a devastating effect to the US government's narrative. It would show that CDC has been harming the public for decades. And these are more than just inconvenient truths. They strike at the very heart of the way that

we organize our society and the way that we live our lives. And so from this he begins to talk about a work that was done back in nineteen thirty nine, a book Nutrition and Physical degeneration by a pioneering dentists named Weston a price of you know him. But before I get into that and what he found, I just want to say, how was it that the Amish were able to do all this stuff? Well, they were able to to not do any of this because they were not up for coercion or bribery or

blackmail. See this strikes to the very heart of the Maga denial of Trump's involvement. There weren't people coming around door to door dragging people out and forcefully injecting him. And so from that standpoint, Democrats, Biden and fouc you know, oh, we didn't force anybody to do it. Well, coersion is a kind of force, and that's what they did. But there's also

the bribery that is involved. There's not just the black mail. But they were not susceptible to any of this because you see the way that all worked, the way the coersion and the force and the bribery worked. They would apply economic pressure to people. You were going to lose your job, You're going to lose your position. That's how they have control over us. And the Amish are not blackmailable. The Amish haven't taken the bribe for anything.

They have focused on keeping their community independent. They focused on creating a vibrant, interdependent community that is not cannot be coerced or bribed or blackmailed from the outside. Now, they could send troops in and they could forcefully shoot these people, shoot them with bullets, shoot them with vaccines or something like that

by force. But that wasn't done to anybody. The rest of it was done because we made ourselves too dependent on what the government demanded, and people were afraid to give up this life of dependency on government money and government orders. That's the key thing. But let's talk about what Western Price noticed back

in the nineteen thirties. He published this book in nineteen thirty nine. He looked at the lifestyles and the subsequent health of tribal groups in many different places, not just the Amish and Africa and North America and Oceania and Europe. In the high Alpine Swiss herders inhabitants of the Scottish Highlands. We discovered and documented meticulously, including a beautiful series of photographic comparisons. Is a direct refutation

of the idea that modern industrial lifestyles and medicine are making us healthier. In fact, he showed the opposite is true. Born in the late nineteenth century, Western Price was originally from Canada, but he set up a shop as a dentist across the border in Cleveland, Ohio. This is a time when the traditional diets of Americans in the Midwest, based entirely in animal and plant whole foods, were being displaced by new industrial products, especially fine wheat and

canned products. The effects were terrible and immediate, and Price saw among his patients, especially amongst the children, growing signs of severe physical decay, crowded teeth, abundant cavities, malformation of the dental arch the roof of the mouth, weakening facial structure visible in the nose, the cheeks, and the jaw. What's more, of these physical deformities were manifesting themselves in behavioral and developmental

abnormalities that had previously been more or less unknown. He knew something was happening on a broader level to cause these changes, so he guessed that it had to do it diet, and so he was able to document at least a dozen groups that he considered to display perfect health. By that he meant he didn't just mean dental health. It meant that not only these people avoided facial degeneration that was happening because of dental issues that was suffering by American children,

but their entire bodies condition. These people were fit, tall, had a tremendous resistance to physical ailments of all kinds, including chronic and infectious diseases, and they also generally lived into ripe old age. He visited the Tories Straight Islanders, for instance, a tribe living on an island off the north coast of Australia. He spoke to an Australian physician who had been sent to minister to them into the small population of whites who had recently moved there too.

The doctor said that in his thirteen years with the islanders he had not seen a single case of malignancy in other words, cancer, and they'd only seen one that he had suspected might be a malignancy among the entire four thousand native population. He said he had operated several dozen during the same period of time he'd operated on several dozen malignancies for the white population that was living there. Price could see that one of the key differences between the Islanders and the whites

was their diet. The islanders continued to eat a traditional diet based primarily around nutrient dense animal foods and particularly the abundant seafood the bird life the island provided. The whites were subsisting on refined and canned goods shipped in from the mainland.

Wherever Price found a group that displayed perfect health, whether that was within the Arctic Circle or the African savannah, he found people who were eating large quantities of food like organ meat, blood, fatty cuts of meat, eggs, shellfish, seafood, milk, and animal fat products like butter and lard.

Price tested samples of the food these people were eating and found them to contain massive quantities of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and cofactors, well beyond the quantities most people in America would have been consuming at the time, and massively an excess of what the average person would consume today even with supplements. So there's two things here. Number One, we have to understand how important

it is for us to have control locally. We have to understand that even from the standpoint Trump, this bad state law again being weaponized by the people prosecuting him, but it was a state law, a bad law, and things can get much worse for us if we have bad local and state government,

because that's where the rubber meets the road. And even if you got somebody in Washington, as we had with both Trump and Biden, who is bribing bureaucrats and institutions to lock us down, to poison us, to abuse us, to make us engage in all kinds of insane compliance rituals that can be stopped at the local level. And the other part of this is the understanding that so much of this has been put together by these globalist nationalists organizations,

the Rockefeller Foundation and the rest of them. And you look at what is happening with Davos. They're very highly focused at this point in time on making the food supply even and worse, even more poisonous, because that's how they depopulate the world. And of course they've come up with an excuse this nonsense about CO two. That's how they're going to roll this whole thing out.

We're gonna take a quick break right now, and we're going to establish contact with Marty Gottisfeld, and he's going to talk to us about his experiences with the communication management units, which is probably where most certainly where they'll put excuse me, that has sneeze there. There's most certainly where they will put Julian Assigne if they extradite him, to make sure that he can't talk to people. So we're gonna take a quick break and we will be right back.

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for many years while Marty was in a communications management unit. This is where they put political prisoners in the US. Right now is where you will see Juliana Songe heading And so we want to talk to him about what life is like there. It's very, very difficult. It is there too manage and to shut off any communication to the outside world. And so that's what they've designed this thing for and that's why they put dissidents and political prisoners there.

We do have political prisoners, a lot of them in the United States. So joining us now is Marty got us. Well, thank you for joining us, Marty, thank you for having me. David tell us a little bit about just give us an overview of the CMU. We can get to your case in particular and why you were there, and of course it was a great injustice and I've talked many times today and about it, and we'll talk about that and things that are still happening with your court case. But

you're out now. But tell us, tell us what the Communication Management Unit is like small self contained prison unit. Guys in the CNU do not get to go out to like the prison yard, that do not get to go out to the other places inside the prison that the average federal prisoner you know

gets to go. They keep it self contained in a very small area so that they can cramp down on communications, make sure that like you can't pass another prisoner a note or have another prisoner call somebody on your behalf right. They keep even the laundry within the unit. The rest of the prison complex sends their laundry out right like a sense for laundry place, but they're worried

that, you know, it's just an example. Prisoners will pass notes to the guys working in the laundry and then be able to get communications out that way. So they actually keep even the laundry right inside the unit. And like when you buy a commissary, right for the most part, it's prisoners who pack the commissary backs, but not for CMU prisoners. Only staff can pack a commissary bag for CMU prisoner, which you know sometimes makes it harder

to even get your commentsary. It's like a busy week, right, Like they might not have the staff to actually pack the bags for the CMU guys. When I got there April first, twenty nineteen, to the CMU in Terahoe, Indiana, and there are two run by the Bureau of Prisons, which is a federal agency of the Justice Department. Right, so the war is in Terahoe, Indiana. That's the original facility was opened around two thousand

and six during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The wars provided the financial justification for the unit. The idea was that they would lock up like al Qaeda guys, you know, JIHII guys there, and they would monitor their communications and they would mine those communications for intel to use in the war efforts. A few years later, they opened up a second communications management unit at the United States Panitentiary in Marion, Illinois. I spent about a year in

that unit as well. So I've been to both CMUs. They justified the second unit as they didn't have enough room, you know, in the first one, and after they've been running the first one for a while, they had guys who had like keep separate ers, right, like, they can't put this guy with that guy or they'll attack each other on site. So they needed someplace that they could, you know, resolve those kinds of problems. The second unit basically doubled the CNY budget. The max capacity of either

unity given times about fifty sixty guys. When I first got there, they were running in about half that capacity at any given time. There's probably a little fewer than half are you know, it's hard to even call them real terrorist cases, but there are these cases that have some nexus to something caussable as terrorism. There tend not to be the really high profile cases though that the really high profile cases they go to the supermax in the federal system in

Florence, Colorado. So it's important to understand that this is not These are not the only places where they can hold actual terrorists. Right, Like El Chapel will never see a CNU. Right he went from mcc new York, the high security lock up in Manhattan, right straight to the supermax and Colorado. Right, So this is not where there was no justification to keep these

UITs running for prisoners like that. This is where they play like you know, a twenty year old kid who gets some doctorate on the Internet or gets some trapped by the Justice Department or both, who gets caught on like a plane to Syria or on like a cruise shift to Syria to try to fight on the other side of a geopolitical dispute, you know, in which the United States takes an interest. Right, those tend to be the so called

terrorism cases. There. The Bureau of Prisons gets millions and millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars to run these units. They take prison guards with no intelligence training with you know who would not be able to cut the mustard at State Department or CIA as intelligence analysts, and they laid them intelligence analysts. They give them six figure salaries, and then their job essentially comes to give people like me and Julie in a hard time. Yeah. Yeah,

well, it's interesting, you said, El Chappo. Will you not find him there? I guess some would They send the Cycler family there for their opioid. No, they're not going to go to so yeah, but you know that. But those types of people, if they if they were

in prison, right, It's it's a very real possibility. You know, I think I'm not trying to uh, you know, be hyperbolic, but you know, if the fans were a lock up Trump for instance, right, if any of these cases against Trump result in a prison term, you know, even a prison term penning appeal. I'm not saying, you know that he wouldn't have pellogrounds whatever, but if he does do any time in

the federal system, CMU is a likely place. The Trump bill as well, Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep him from communicating with the outside, they take away his cell phone, tweet with, they're worried about his followers, they're worried about his right. He can make life very difficult on us. If you were to say, you know, I have a problem with this particular cl mister Smith, right, that would the Bureau of Prisons would take very unkindly to that, and he'd likely find himself in the CMU.

And so, like so many other things, like the Patriot Act itself, we see something that's set up to house people that are violent parists, and instead this thing then turns against in many cases, people who are dissidents, people who are opposing their narrative, people are political opponents. Shaeffer Cox,

for example, is one of these. He's not a terrorist, he's not a threat of violence to anybody else, but they want to make sure that they cut off as communications because he has influence and he can influence people against the government narrative that they want to maintain. So Shaffer Cox was he have to mention a one of his case was concocted. Yeah, we are a few doors down from each other. His case it's almost laughable, I mean, and it would be laughable if they hadn't hemmed him up for for so

long on it. You know that the appellate court largely satellized his case when they when they reversed it and took away most of his sentence, and that was the Ninth Circuit Us Court of Appeals. You know, it's a very liber hole for the court that did not you know, found the government's theory in that case, you know, kind of at the periphery of what a jury could reasonably convict under. Yeah. Yeah, when we talk about when

we talk about Trump and lawfair and things like that. I mean, this has been going on for a very long time to other people like Schaefer Cox, but they do they have the ability to completely shut him down because he doesn't have a big following. He doesn't have a billion dollars or several billion dollars, and so what they've done to him is horrific. And they put

him into one of these communication management units that are there. Now, this is as you were pointing out, you're not going to drive to tear Hooe, Indiana and you see a sign out there that says Communications Management Unit. It's a small part of the prison that is there, and a small part of the one that is in Illinois as well, right, so this is a subset of that. Yeah, And so the Terbote CMU is actually the old federal death row. They built the new federal death row elsewhere in the

compound, and then they use the old death row as the CMU. So like I've been inside, Timothy mcmay sell, and then they leave up like some of the placarding from when it was the death row, and it's kind of like an ominous warning, like keep doing stuff we don't like, and we're going to move you about. We'll find a way to concoct something and move you down the road. Like there's a lot of subtle coercion, right

you mentioned before. The coercion is a far force, and you know they have to try to maintain the appearance that you know, there's a real public interest in running these units. And that's why, in my opinion, you do have the thirty to forty five percent kind of like terrorism material support cases that are there. Those are the excuse right, and prisoners like myself,

like Julian Massange, we're a real reason. And so when you're there, like if you're if you're me right, when you are on the phone with the journalists, they just hang up the phone, take your phone away. If your wife puts you to the press, which which data did with me, Uh, you know, they throw you in solitary. I have all

the paperwork to prove this. I've spoken recently in a few places about what mister Assange can expect to face in the CMU, and I think I was the federal prisoner with a course of conduct most similar to mister Assanges, because I was publishing right. Very few guys in prison. In prison do right, and Julian also he does publish right. They hate prisoner or lawsuits out of the CMU, so they retaliate against any kind of litigation to uphold your

First Amomic rights. You know, first they kind of they squelch the First Amendment rights, and then if you try to go to court, they retaliate against you further right, And I think that's something that mister Assange, unfortunately can expect. When I was preparing file of lawsuit, they said that my attempted lawsuit was extortion and they threw me in solitary, even though courts all around the country have ruled that, you know, to try to say that

litigation is extortion is frivorous, as patently frivolous. It doesn't matter because no one has prepared in the Bureau of Prisons or in the local US district courts to be fair to you once you're placed in a CMU. Unfortunately, in this country, most of our federal judges are former DOJ prosecutors, right, and they get spun that you know, these are terrorists, this is the terrorism unit. So you're done on arrival of court. You know, even

before you get there. The courts aren't going to want to hear it. I'm out now. Before I was out, I had a federal habeas pending in the U. S. District Court for the Southern District of Indiana. It was fully briefed. It's been fully briefed now since July, and the court has not ruled on it. Right, and I had pro bo council helped me with that case. It's a very well prepared case, but they did, you know. And under the rules and the statutes in the federal

courts, federal habeus is to jump to the front of the line. It's supposed to be the very first thing on which of court rules because it affects somebody's literate right, and the liberty interest is one of the highest interests, or the highest interest you can have in the law in this country. But if you're filing a hanbeast from a CNU, the court just doesn't rule on it until you're already out, and then they can say it's mood. You

know, you're already out. But they'd avoid having any ruling. Are they avoid having the majority of rules that could go against the CNU on First Amendment grounds or on due process grounds. Right, So this is something that you filed up. This is something you filed while you were still a prisoner. There is that, correct, And they still have not heard it anything. You expect they're going to delay this and then say it's a mood issue.

Yeah, I mean that's part of the course unfortunately. But at the same time, you have a federal statute and we actually put it on the docket to the judge and asked him to rule. He said, no, Look, under the rules, this is supposed to be the very first thing the court here's and that will put that on the docket. And you know,

a few months ago and still nothing. Let's you know, and I want to get to your case and let you tell what happened with your case and because you were there under these conditions and Dana was working very hard to get information out about this and to get the information about the way they abused your case. How you're a political prisoner. But do you think you mentioned the

supermax prisons. Do you think that they're going to send Julian assigned to the supermax or to the CMU And what is the difference between the two in terms of prisoner population. Well, I think they'll send into the CMU. The Justice Department has already made what I believe was an unqualified assurance to London that

they would not, under any circumstances send assage to the supermax. Right, they've kind of said that they will initially put him under what are called Special Administrative Measures or SAMs, which is kind of like the highest classification of communication restrictions a federal prisoner can be under. But you don't need to be under SAMs to be at the CMU. Never understands, but it's a distinction largely without a difference, right right, Like it doesn't you don't need to be

under SAMs. The problem for them with SAMs is it would cause a diplomatic uproar, and the Attorney General of the US Attorney General would actually personally have to sign off on it, right, so there is some accountability there where he could later be question as to why he signed off on this communication restriction, whether it was constitutional, you know all that. To put you in the CNU, they only need to sign off from the associate director of the

Bureau of Prisons. It's nowhere near as high level and official, and those associate directors are like toilet paper. They get changed often and pretty much for the same reasons, so you know, it's way more likely that he will end up in a CNA. And they claim that the CMUs are general population units, that there's nothing atypical or significant about the hardships in the CMU. They've made these claims to the US courts. The US courts have largely credited

those claims. The reality is, of course, though it's not a general population Theoretically, I was supposed to get two fifteen minutes phone calls each week while I was in the CMU. I was supposed to be allowed to call

the media, you know, and I didn't even get those. But you know, compared to that, right, the average federal prisoner, depending on his, you know, his or her exact circumstances, and this is in flux now with some of the prisoner form stuff going on, but they get three hundred to five hundred telephone minutes per month, right, and cn prisoners get most thirty a week, and a lot of the times that they don't even get that for various reasons. They can just lock the unit down without

providing a reason and give no on their phone calls. And that goes on for days on end. If you if you miss your calls through no fault of your own, like if there's a technical issue with the equipment which has happened. Uh, you know, you just don't get your call and there's there's no makeup call. You have no in person contact business. So in the CMU, whereas in the rest of federal prison contact business. So Dana

was unable to hug me for four years. And then after NBC dropped there a part document series on my case and Justina Pelletier, the Bureau of Persons simply deleted data from my contact information, would not allow me to readd her never served me any paperwork to say that you know, I did anything wrong or Data did anything wrong. And I was not able to speak to Data for the last seven or eight months. Wow that I was going to see

and news. And then when I was speaking with John Kyriaku, who is the CIA whistle blower who exposed the Bush torture program, I was discussing a different case that we get into that effects Operation Fast and Furioce and the efforts to investigate Operation Fast and Ferience. So I was talking with John, they didn't They clearly didn't like that. They heard fast and furience. They cut

off my call with him, would not let me call him again. I have a nephew who is an attorney, so he was kind of my last resort. I thought, okay, they really ship mess with calls to a licensed attorney. My nephew was trying to help me with my case, trying to help me find counsel in the area. The calls were a legal nature.

I was discussing the restrictions and when they had been applied, and you know the facts upon which there are a reasonable inferences of retaliation, a very similar set of circumstances to what unfort mister Assaungs can expect to experience himself. And they just caught off that calls to my nephew would let me call him any So for my last several months in the CMUs, I couldn't call anybody. They just deacted me in my phone account. They never said that I

built the rule. They never gave me any kind of hearing of any kind, right, And that's part of the course when you do things that upset them. But DATA quoted me to a reporter of RT, and RT ran an article with my quotes right, and they took my phone away for nine months and added twenty seven days to my sense for being quoted by media, right, and and so these these are just these are just some examples,

right, And this is unfortunately what Julie's going to run into. And he's not the type to the client that it was off and I get that, but unfortunately that means he's going to run into this retaliation over so they can make the pledge that there's not going to he's not going to be put in

a super max. They can say that he's not going to get the special administrative things that sam and uh. And yet you know why they don't say we're not going to put it in a c What's that they not said they're not going to put Yes, that's right, that nobody knows about the CMU. Really, it's that that is not out there. And so it's like, oh, okay, well, I guess we got all the bases covered. No, they're not talking about the CMU. They're keeping that kind of

quiet, and that's likely to be what he's going to get there. And so it is very just to give you an example of right, when I was in the CNU, the SAMs guys got their phone calls, but I did not, even though I was never on SAMs Derek this period of the cut data and they just you know, wouldn't let me speak on the phone all. He activated my phone account because I was talking about Fast and Curious. But the guys on Singers all getting their phone I was not. They

actually treated me harsher the guys we're on SAMs. But there arguably, I think a lot of you of those cases are focused too. But where there's arguably some national security basis right where he's Attorney generalman saw As signed office and this prisoner presents national security threat, those guys are getting their calls and I was not getting one. And the most amazing thing about it is, in your case, this is not it was an allegation of violence or national security

threat or any that kind of stuff. What it was was a case of medical kidnapping that you worked to expose against Harvard's Children's Hospital. And because they're so heavily connected with government, they use the government to punish you for that, which which is truly amazing. And I want to get to that as well. But you mentioned and I want to talk about this fast and Furious thing, and what John Kyaku was talking to you about. What is going

on with the fast and furious? What is this information and how did you come by? So there's a prisoner in the Terre Haute CNU right now named Donald Reynolds Jr. And his case. He didn't realize that first. He's a firearms collector. He was when he was out. He was a firearms collector. He had several historically significant pieces. He had a browning from World War Two. The government approached him and they asked him to be an informant, and they had no leverage over him. He was not a criminal.

They it wasn't like they had him on something small or trying to turn him or anything like that. So he refused, right, So the Feds show up. They raided his house, they raided his parents' house. They find nothing, no drugs. All the firearms are legally licensed. He's got his Class three stamps right, he's got his vocal apartment. He's a compliance with

state law, federal law, everything. But they can cockt this drug case, this drug trafficking case against him, even though they've they've found road drugs and they've never found any drugs and they used that to kind of silence him. As the years go by, they gave him life plus seventy five. Wow, in this case is the first time non violent offender with no drugs found give life plus seventy five in comparison, L Chapel life plus fifteen.

Right, so they actually gave Donnie a marsher's sentence. Then i'l chapa.

As the years go by, Donnie starts putting stuff together the names and dates in his case, right, and he went to trial, forced them to go to trial like any innocent man ordered you to assume any in this advantak And he starts to realize that all the names and the dates overlap with fast periods, and it took years for the information had come out right, And so then I write about his case from inside the CMU, which was difficult to do, but I got it done. And the American Conservative did a

month long investigation. They published a feature under the headline the Knoxville Kingpin. Who Wasn't They go all of Donnie's case, They go over all the names and the dates. They concluded in the end that this case is, you know, certainly adjacent to fast and furious. The names and the dates everything lines up, and they recommend clemency for Donnie because of the proscatorial irregularities. And they found several witnesses and I'm sure this doesn't surprise many in your audience,

but would surprise it like the average member of the public. They found several instances where federal prosecutors filed effidated saying this this person told us X. Our federal agent says, this source claimed X. They then compared the trial testimony of these witnesses, who sang a very different team to trial. So either the prosecutor was lying or the source was never credible in the first place.

And that's kind of the story of Donnie's case. And he's been fighting to try get out, fighting and try to expose this and that they threw in a CMU and they retaliate against him viciously, right, And my theory on it is, you know, the US House and representatives during the Obama administration issued a subpoena to the White House for records on Operation Fast Experience. Obama asserted the executive privilege to quash that subpoena, and we never got the

records from the White House about Fast Experience. Fast and feriors for those who don't know, the Justice Department allowed high power uner penetrating firearms and ammunition to go to walk from the United st States to the Mexican drug cartels, the Mexican drug cartels that used those firearms to massacre people, Mexican nationals, and also three federal agents when we're shot by these baduts. Okay, yeah,

and that was actually something interest interjector. That was something that actually a gun walker program began under Bush, Yeah, and then Receiver. Yeah, it became fast and furious under Obama. So it really is you know, the atf through both of these administrations. As we see over and over again, you know, whether it's a Republican or Democrat that is in office, these

same types of things are happening. And uh. And it was really to carry the water for the UN Arms Trade Treaty, which wanted to make it They wanted to make a case that you had small arms that we would you

know, typically keep pistols and rifles and things like that. Small arms are going back and forth creating this this this crime problem in Mexico, and the UN Arms Trade Treaty was saying we've got to stop that trafficking in arms across the border, which means that you're going to have have to have every piece of firearms or ammunition or whatever identified and recorded in the United States. That

was their end goal. That was the UN gun control move, the UN Arms Trade Treaty, and that's what this was all set up to support. And I think even the New York Times after this all blew up and they had these federal agents get killed. I think even the New York Times said that this was a false flag. Everybody understood it was a false flag. Okay, yeah, So so Donnie, right, he puts this alt yet and he's trying to get out, he's trying to get back into court.

The Obama administration had the psquashed under executive privilege, right which a president can

claim whatever the US Attorney General brief someone the matter. It's it's analogous roughly to regular attorney client privilege, except between the president and the attorney Get The problem for Donnie and from the Justice Department rise is because Donnie's defense was entitled under the Fifth Amendment and under Brady v. Meat that's the discovery case where the government's got to turn over all all this evidence to your defense council,

including evidence that speaks to your innocence, evidence that is not favorable to the prosecution. The prosecution doesn't just get to bury that thing have to turn over to the defense. So this information was never turned over to Donnie's defense. Nothing about Fast and Furious was turned over to Donnie's defense. This isn't appellavis right. If it's proven that thing with hell this information, Donnie's conviction gets

reversed. He gets to come back into court, and as long as his liberty is on the line, they cannot use executive privilege to quash Brady because

the liberty interest trumps the executive privilege interest. Though the congressional legislative interest does not trump executive privilege, but Donnie's liberty interest does, right, And so if he ever gets back into court, they're either going to have to drop the case, but the truth about Fast and Furious is going to come out, right, and so he like myself and I feared Juliana Sanz Right.

This is a great example of the type of case that's in the CNU, that is that there's no purpose to protect the public, there's no public safety interest, there's no compelling interest to protect prison authorities. Donnie has never been violent, he's not accused of violence. And you know, but they'll they'll use the CMU in his case and in Juliet's case, and in my case, in Shakeford Cox's case. And there's another gentleman, married Kurt Johnson.

Kurt's a great guy. He interceded to stop a murder in the CNU after they had already been one murdered. There was going to be a second, and mister Johnson stepped in and stopped it. He was suing big banks on behalf of homeowners in two thousand and eight before the financial crisis. Second, if the loans were predits praying at Dell. Yeh right, he gets sentenced, you know a few months before the crisis. You know, everything hits the fan, right, And if his case had been a few months later,

maybe it would would work out very differently. Right. But that's another guy who was there in the than you. But again, it would be very embarrassing for the system. And you know who went to jail over the two thousand and eight financial crisis, the wisdom that's right, only the wisdom blower went to prison. Right. So these are the types of cases that are in the CMUs. Wow. Wow. And of course John Kiriaku, the whistleblower about the CIA torture, did they not have the CMUs at that

point in time? I know where did they put him when he was in so so he has written, I'm not allowed to have any direct communication with mister Currier since I've still on supervised release, right, so I have to preface with that, right. But I do recall that while I was on my way to the CMU, uh, mister Carrier cup brought wrote about my case, and he said that he was he had been placed in a modified CMU at f c I in the red and paint. And I have not

heard that there was a modified CMU. There No one else that I know if has heard about that. But given that he was c I A, it's it's certainly very it's certainly possible, if not likely, that they did something very special with him, even by standards. Oh yeah, yeah they probably. Yeah, they probably did their own his own individualized to see him

uge just for him. That's that's probably exactly what happened. Well, let's talk a little bit about your case, because I think it's interesting to see the links that they will go to to put somebody in and to severely restrict their communications to punish you. As you pointed out, if somebody does an article about you or you have a communication you were trying to You were able to kind of in some of your legal proceedings, were able to get some

information out that way to your wife. But they pretty much kept everything excuse me about to sneezer, They pretty much kept everything under control. And tell us a little bit about why you got there, because it truly is your case is truly astounding. You were not a threat to anyone other than a very highly politically politically connected and very powerful wealthy organization. And so we could

see this type of thing happening. For example, if somebody were to expose and be a whistleblower about Pfizer or something like that, right, because these people are very highly it doesn't even have to be a health issue. It could be any kind of a whistleblower who was exposing information about a politically connected organization or corporation. So tell us a little bit about the background of your case. So more was at the time she was fourteen years old, a

girl named Justina Pellettier. She has mitochondrial disease, which is a congenital genetic condition that's degenerative, progressive, and sadly often fatal. It's the same condition that baby Charlie Guard had, or the same type of condition that baby Charlie Guard had in the UK, and there was a more recent instance of another child in the UK who had this condition, and they effectively just pulled the plug on and they would not allow the parents to see the experimental therapies to

try to help these kids. Justina has a subthing, more survivable form of it. Mitochondrial disease is like an umbrella term for a bunch of different genetic disorders, so no tube cases are really the same. Her gastro enterologists had moved from Tuft's University Medical Center to Harvard's Boston Children's Hospital, and Justina caught the food and the flu causes severe complications for mitochondrial disease patients because NIDA is

metabolic disorder. Your cells and your body have a hard time converting food into chemical energy to run the body systems. So then when the patient gets the flood and has nausea and has a hard time eating right, you're compounding this metabolic problem because you know, the food that was getting in already had a hard time being converted to energy. Now you're stopping the food from getting in

in the first place. Right. So her primary mino doctor, renowned guy named doctor person at Tufts, refers Justina to see her gastroentrologist, who you know, the month before was working at Tufts, and this would have been no problem. She had gone right in the toughs and seen him, but he had moved to Boston Children's Hospital. I think it was to presume to pursue a grant. So he refers to her to Boston Children's Hospital to see

her gastroenterologists. This is a doctor who had been with her for years. This gastrentrologist had actually operated on her to put it in secostomy too, to help her use the bathroom. But she gets to Boston Children's Hospital via ambulance like three o'clock in the morning on a Sunday during the blizzard. The gas per entrologist is not there. She gets seen by a young neurologist a few months out of his medical training. He doesn't believe that Justina has minochondrial disease.

He refers to the parents for medical child abuse, basically munchause and syndrome by proxy, where the his theory effectively it seemed to be that Justina's parents were seeking attention and making her sick just to kind of bring attention on themselves. It ignored the diagnosis. It ignored the fact that Justina's older sister also had MITO and was successfully treated for mitom And again, this is a genetic condition, so it tends to run in families. It tends to be passed

down the maternal line. So he either didn't know or ignored those facts, sent Justina for a firm of psychological therapy for what they call somatophorm disorder or like psycho semantic disorder, where like you think you're sick and your brain then kind of makes you sick or your sentence fit your own perception of your illness. Right, They took Justina off all her MITO treatments, right, And that was when her parents, you know, really expressed severe Lauren, because

again this is a degenerative and awful fatal illness. You take her off of her treatments, there's going to be severely percussions. And we've seen that there in fact were you know, she was walking, she could at least feel her legs when she walked into Boston Children's Hospital. She was having some trouble ambulating because of the fluid and lack of energy. But you know she certainly she she's ice skating six weeks earlier. Yeah, I remember seeing the pictures

of her in skits. Yeah. Now she's crippled. Now, she can't walk right, and it's because they took her, in my view, because they took her off of these minotherapies, and we don't know if she'll ever walk again, unfortunately. So at the height of this case, right, the government alleges that I launched the largest distributed denial of service attack, a

dd less attack that they had ever seen. Then I basically sent too much away from me interject here for I'm interjected here for a second, because this went on for quite some time, and she's degenerating throughout all of that. A clear case of medical kidnapping. And there's been other allegations of medical kidnapping by other people over and over again from this particular institution, and so this has gone on for quite some time before these allegations came out. Go ahead,

what They had a word for it at Boston Children's Hospital. They called it a parentectity. Appendectiny is removal of the appendix. A hysterectomy is removed the uterus like a parent actomy. Removal of the parents. Right, that's what these doctors called it. That came out in the Boston Globe And at one point, so Boston Children's Hospital is monitoring, or between the Boston Children's Hospital and the state, they're monitoring Justina's communications. They're clamping down on Justina's

communications. It was almost like she was in her own little CMU inside Boston Children's Hospital. She couldn't discuss her care or treating with her parents if they would terminate the call or terminate the visit. They limited the parents to one twenty minute phone call a week, and I think one in person visit for like forty minutes or an hour or something like that, and again control the

topics of conversation to prevent anything from getting out. They would not allow the parents to photograph Justina, so they couldn't document, right, and show the public that she was deteriorating, right, They couldn't show the public what she

looked like now versus what she looked like before. Right. So at the kind of the height of this, Justina's parents published a handwritten note by Justina where she talked about the kinds of things that the psych where people had done there, right, and it was they hurt me all the time, they don't let me sleep very much, please harmy, right, and so like that, molde comes out like the day before, the government alleges I launched

this this huge distributed denial of service, and basically the charges against me about to sending too much Internet traffic at somebody's networks. Right, That's that's what we're that's what we're talking. They never claimed that I, uh, when this happens, that a patient information that I have a repenetrated the system broke into anything, you know, did anything. But what I did was I took down their donation portal. That's right. That was the allegation. Yeah,

taking down their donation thing. Not that that anybody was harmed by this, but just taking down their donation thing during a fundraiser event. They they watched that people were harmed or could have been harmed, but the jury would a convict on it when all the facts. But when all the facts were aired in court. They did not obtain a conviction. Uh. They tried, and under the federal law, the bar is so low for them. All they had to prove was that I potentially, not even actually but potentially

impacted the medical diagnosis treating her care of one individual. And they couldn't meet that book. They fail and meet that book and fell up order with the pro government judge. Yeah. Right, literally everything going forward them and they would not allow me to plead defense of another Like if I'm in a dark gay and I see someone being attacked with a knife or with a gun, right, and I shoot the assailant, right, and then they charged me

with murder. Right. In the United States, you're supposed to be able to plead defense of another. Right. It's just like self defense. If someone were to attack you and you were to take actionally defend your own life. If someone were to attack your wife and you took action to defend your your wife's life. Where someone were to attack your child, you were to take action to defend your child's life. Right. So they just would't let the argument. They took it away, they took it out of the jury's

purview. They told the jury instead that my good motive was no excuse for the crimes. Charm wow. And then we find out that the federal judge who sits on my case is a clerk shareholder director of a for profit family seafood business called Slade Burdening Co Bank, that Slave Borglan Codeinc. Donates to Boston Children's Hospital, that Boston Children's Hospital publicly thanks Slave Burden and Kobank on

the very same website the government alleges I brought down. We find out that the Harvard hospitals that were all eventually affected by the didas do industry research for Slave Mordling, Code Bank and an industry trade group called the Seafood Nutrition Partnership to market the company's products to the public as part healthy We find out that the judge was a board member and a member of the corporation of an organization

called the Licoln Home for Little Wanderers, that his brother was also a board member of this organization, and that this organization, since two thousand and three, is partnered with Boston Children's Hospital to divert juvenile psychiatric inpatients to outpatients stay, which is what they were trying to do with Justina. As soon as she became hot potato. Right. And then we find out that one of my jurors in this case, Majory, that was supposedly drawn randomly, was

an accountant for the Home for Little Wanders. And she steps followed on the first day of trial and says, hey, I was an accountant for the Mainland Home for the Little Wanders. I'm worried this might cause of this truck. And we moved to dismiss this juror, and the judge refuses, and the judge never discloses, Yeah, and he never discloses that he was a

board member at the England Home for the Little Wanders. Then we find out that the first witness in the case, the government's first witness, was a contractor with an agency that actually did the it work for the Midlin Home for Little Wanderers. And the judge never discloses this and never recuses from the case. Right, And the number the connections, I mean, this is just scratching the surface in my case. And I have all the documents to prove

it. And you mentioned that there's a new filing room my case. I've moved to vacate the conviction. You get one chance after your appeals and then you get one further chance in the federal law, uh to attack the conviction

that I've moved to do that. And the filing is pending in the U. S. District Court in Boston right now, but unfortunately it's pending before the very same district judge, the same the same person with all these all these confidence and interest gets to decide, you know, whether the conviction should

be overturned. Wow. And when we look at Julian Designs. I didn't get into this earlier in the program, but the judge where there's two judges that are residing over this saying, one of these two judges has a very very long history with British Intelligence, the Ministry of Defense. He has even

been involved in enhanced interrogation cases and things like that. Just like yeah, and so, I mean he's got a very very long history with the very people who are coming after Julian Assigne, just like this judge in your case, and as songs will be tried in the Eastern District of Virginia over here in the United States, that's the the jurisdiction where they indicted him, that's

known as the Intelligence School. Right to people like John Carrierkou, Edward Snowden, and Julian Nissan's right, that's where they bring all these intelligence cases. And basically your jury pool is Alexandria, Virginia. Your jury pool is pulling from these very same federal agencies and the US judges, unfortunately, they don't disclose largely. The Wall Street Journal a couple of years ago published a front

page xpose. They found that one hundred and thirty one US federal judges had sat over six hundred and fifty presided over six hundred and fifty cases in which the judge owned an equity interest in one of the parties. So that's like Microsoft sues Amazon. The judge owned stock in Microsoft, and the judge does not disclose, right and does not recuse himself right. And to put that into perspective because the Wall Street Journal, I don't know why they didn't,

they never did. The US doesn't have that many federal judges. One hundred and thirty one federal judges is about one six it's about one six title judges. So with a very uh, you know, I mean less than comprehensive, I mean, it was it was good work that the Wall Street Journal

did I'm not trying to impute it. But their search was just like surface, right, and with a comprehensive and that they went over and they judges disclosures, but they didn't look too deeply into you know, each particular judge situation. They found that one in six US judges broke the law when it comes to recusal. Right. Now, imagine what a deeper analysis would do.

And imagine Julian's judges in the Eastern District of Virginia. Right, we likely have serious ties to these contractors likely own uh stop right in companies like Norfolk Bumman, right, and the other defense contractors. Right, the people who sold sold the tanks, right, the people who sell the weapons you

know to the military. Uh. And you know, Julian arguably cost him a lot of business because he made it a lot harder to continue to prosecute before sat I Rack in Afghanistan. They lost a lot of money because of his reporting. Well, it truly is amazing. And of course you're talking about a surface looking at conflict of interest. They wouldn't have probably discovered the kind of connections that you discovered with this judge if they just did a service

analysis exactly. It was a couple of different levels deeper than just the surface. Yeah, and that's exactly my point. And you know, they discourage attorneys from looking into these issues, and most attorneys, like my attorneys, would not find to recuse my district us. They feared him so much they feared retaliation from him. At least. That's the only logical explanation that I was ever able to conjure, was that they fear this guy so much they

will not brief the issue. And so I was I was about to do it from say, and then you know, if you if you brief something like this, I represented they you know, they try to act like here's some crack pop, right, like the lawyer who has himself for a client as a fool, right, But like at the same time they make sure that they're at the court point. Attorneys are ever going to brief this very

elected that even a project retained attorney whatever brief this. And then you trying to brief it yourself, even if you have all the documents, all the evidence, right, they say you're supporting that because you will present yourself well, you really are a fighter. And it is truly I'm sorry for what happened to you, But how long were you? And you went into the supermax in twenty nineteen, so you were there a little bit less than five years. How long were you in that? Not the Supermax, the CMU,

Yeah, how long were you? I was never in the Superman. How long were you incarcerated? For sure? So I was in the CMUs one way or another from April first, twenty nineteen to June ninth of twenty twenty three, so a little more than four years. I was split between the two facilities. I did time in bolth if I've seen both. There are some meaningful differences, but nothing really that you would affect Julian or or nothing that would affect his extradition case, right, Like the bottom line is

that they're going to play in all of these units. They're going to do so for unconstitutional reasons. They're going to violate his constitutional rights. There's really no reason that Britain should extradite him, and there is no representation from the US government that is credible right in terms of preserving his rights. And if we're just a real here, he's only being prosecuted because he told the truth. That's right, right. Uh, people found that embarrassing and it went

against you know, powered moneyed interests. And there used to be a time, I feel in this country where that wouldn't be an issue. They wouldn't be able to go after you like this, and with Assage in particular. Right, they agonized work to Britain this case because you know, the verifications of it. The above administration they called it the New York Times problem, Like how are they going to justify prosecuting Massage but not prosecuting the New York

Times. And the thing is now they're just very selective. Federal laws are written in such a such a way that they can they can pick on anyone that's right, Right, It's like why it's starting to see what we're starting to see is in the UK they said, well, if you're a credited organization, you know, you get a different standard. So we have a dual standard for so called non accredited non establishment media than there is for other

people and for anybody who is exercising their free speech. And as Ed Snowden pointed out, he said, what he's being accused of a crimes against a state, and the extradition treaty between the US and the UK specifically excludes somebody from being extradited for crimes against the state. Most extradition treaties have carbots for political offenses or that kind of thing. That's something that you expect to see in an extradition treat Yeah, and yet what we have now is all of

the Western governments are rapidly moving towards criminalizing descent. And that is what's so concerning about this. They're moving against the press, the independent press, They're moving against individuals exercising their free speech. But it is all about criminalizing dissent and criminalizing information. It's not enough for them to ban people, it's not enough for them to financially deprogram people. They have to now move to criminal

penalty. We see this happening throughout Europe. Uh, there's the movement towards this in the US as well. It's a very uh foreboding harbinger of what is on its way when they can do this to Julian Assigne and you pointed out the New York Times problem. Going back to the New York Times and the Washington Post and Pentagon papers, they didn't come after the press people.

It's one of the reasons why they're alleging that he had incentivized somebody to get these these these papers, and that's is so tenuous what they're coming after for it's pretty transparent that this is political persecution. Yeah, I mean, what journalists would not encourage a source to come forward? And how how explicit does that encouragement have to become a forts aproblem, you know, And the conspiracy laws of the United States, even a tacit agreement, they call it an

unspoken tacit agreement is enough to find a conspiracy. So under this theory, really any journal US who runs a secure drop box right could be be said to be tacitly encouraging people to violate the classification the espionage right. And so

you know, it's just it's a very simpler stuff. I agree to wholeheartedly with your comment about the way the scent is being criminalized, and I think it really on the other side of it, right, it shows that for the most part, these government narratives are so weak, so flawed, that they know they cannot stand the scrutiny. But when you feel truly confident about your perspective about what you're doing, your actions, right, you don't mind

the scrutiny. I've it never bothers me to get a tough interview question about Justina, about like what if this had done? Like whatever. I'll answer those questions. I don't mind being in the hot seat and answering a difficult question because I truly belave you what I did. I think it passes must right. But when you know your argument is weak, that's when you can't have people question that's right. And we've seen this with the so called science

behind climate change, the so called science behind the pandemic and everything. Oh, you can't see my data, I'm not going to you dare not question me about this. And so immediately when somebody shuts this thing down and they don't want to show you their data, if they're talking about science, or they want to shut down anything that is about dis scent and claim national security of some sort, we know exactly what is happening with it. And as

you point out, they're very they're very fearful about this. They understand now how weak they are in this, but it is also something that makes them a lot more dangerous because they're going to start lashing out in new ways against people in terms of punishments and even imprisonment for this and it is really sad to see how every aspect of the First Amendment is actually being just trashed and

shreaded with these actions. Yeah. And if they succeed in expediting the saws, right, Yeah, the message really is that they can get any whistle war anywhere. Yes, right, this is this is a test case, right, right. If they succeed in getting him, right, that means that they didn't get you in the UK and all the common donations, they can get you anywhere in asient they can get anywhere where they have influence, anywhere they're able to hold aid or cooperation or any of these kind of uniladvel

of bilateral diplomatic arrangements. Right. And the US does by influence all over the world. You know, all that aid we give, we don't do whatever the business of our hearts. And you know we do that to buy influence. And you know, at the same time you have a Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, like I can't bribe a customs agent. You know, if I've got on vacation of the Bahamas and I'm going to get some some liquor or something I'm not supposed to bring in, if I still think I had

twenty. Right, I've committed a felony I vio the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. But if the US government gives some country a billion dollars worth of day, say the fire and prosecutor looking into you know, sun on some that's perfectly leading. That's perfectly leading. So I'm twenty. I'm going to the person. He doesn't with the billing twenty to my animal, which I paid taxes. I'm going to the prison he doesn't with a billion dollars by don't

you bear asks? Oh? Yeah, yeah. It's amazing that the double standards and just the corruption, the corruption, the ruthlessness as we turn more and more authoritarian in terms of what is happening with your case. Now you got this this action that is pending. There is that. I know that Kiriaku served his time and was released. He wanted to get a pardon because if you've got a criminal record that limits you during certain things, certain activities.

In his particular case, it was keeping him from getting his pension. Of course, the interesting story that he had about Rudy Giuliani wanting a couple of million dollars to do that for him with Donald Trump. But apart from that, I mean, is that in play with the filings that you have, there is that part of it. So clemency comes later or usually can be granted at any time. But one of the arguments they try to use again to you when you when you go for a pardon, right, is

that you have to exhaust everything in the courts. Right. They don't. They're not trying to preempt the courts jenially right. The president has the progative to do whatever he wants. But the kind of accepted practice going back many decades is first you exhaust everything in the courts. You give the courts the opportunity, uh to do what's right. Right. So I'm still kind of at that stage. And but if this fan is then yes, the next

thing, next thing up would be would be a pardon. I feel I'm a good candidate for that, especially given what happened to Justina, what Loston Children's Hospital has been seen doing after Justina. They really have kind of committed themselves as a partisan political organ That comes with benefits the institution, but it also comes also that's other verifications, right, which which means that you know, my case might be viewed to the in parts of light because of the

partisanship of this of of the other actor. So yeah, I mean, my effort, my faelt foremost has to be the litigation at least for now, and then we'll see what happens after that. Well, I certainly I wish you the best with that, and again I appreciate your tireless efforts to help other people and the CMU that are unjustly convicted, that are political prisoners, to expose this kind of incarceration that is directed towards political prisoners enemies of

the state for whatever reason. And we've seen this net continue to get wider and wider, going after parents who speak out at a school board meeting, for example. It is absolutely insane to see the way they are extending these borders of people that they alleged to be threats to them, extremists, terrorists and all the rest of this stuff. It will have no other way to

support their posts. They that's right, Yeah, yeah, they are desperate, and so people can find you again at substack martyg dot substack dot com. And of course, while you were still incarcerated, your wife ran a lot of social media platforms on Facebook and other places that were under free Marty G. And those are still available as well. People can find you also on Twitter at Marty goddessfel G O T T E S F E l D. But again, Mardig dot substack dot com is really probably the best place

for people to find you, isn't it because subs Yes. Good. Thank you so much, Marty. Thank you for the work that you do. It is very important people need to understand what is happening with us. We'll be right back, Folks, stay with us. You're listening to the David Knight Show. If you like the Eagles on the Cars and Huey Lewis and the news, they say the you'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio,

download our app or listen now at APS radio dot com. Well, we just have a couple of minutes left, and this time I want to talk about another aspect. We talked earlier about the situation in New York. You know, half a billion dollars that they're coming after Trump and that type of thing and disgorgement, and it's due to a law, a bad law there that doesn't require that anybody be harmed. It's just well, we think that you were doing business and you were engaged in misleading statements. So we're

going to take everything from you. A bad law that is combined with some political persecution. And when we look at what is happening in Georgia, Fanny Willis has had amazing back and forth. I didn't get into all this because I don't want to get into all the soap opera aspects of her life and of Donald Trump's trials, because again they're doing this to push him to the

forefront. They want to run against Trump. But when you look at what was revealed in her particular case, she hired a she was sugar daddy. I guess sugar mama to some kind that she hired. She's paying him off in cash, massive amounts of cash, no receipts. And again it's Reason magazine, which most of the press does not talk about civil asset for for sure, to their credit, they do. And so I said, well,

what about this cash thing. You know that is evidence immediately of a crime for anybody else, and yet for her, no issue at all, even when there are connected allegations of illegal activity. The fact that she has this cash, nobody's going to go to her house to confiscate it. Nobody's going to confiscate her house either as they do, and in her office being

involved in rico stuff, she's also involved in civil asset forfeiture. A significant amount of the budget of her office is funded by theft, which they call civil forfeiture. Reasons that it's quite a turn when a prosecutor defends the use of cash for financial transactions, after years of authorities treating mere possession of physical

cash as being sketchy and grounds for seizure theft. This week a law enforcement official claimed there's nothing to see in her alleged cash reimbursements for her boyfriend for an aviable lifestyle that is arguably funded by the taxpayers. Either Fanny Willis and company were right in the past and she should be subject to scrutiny for anonymous cash transactions, or she's right today and she and her colleagues, oh the

rest of us have pass on our taste for financial anonymity. And so he was paid more than his colleagues about six hundred and fifty four thousand dollars in all, well, this is money which Willis seemingly benefited in the form of expensive vacations and other pleasures of life. Did I ever make him produce receipts to me. Whatever he told me it was, I gave him back the money in cash. You gave him cash before you ever went on a trip? Oh, yes, she said. My Grandpapy told me I need to

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