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Join us for our Best of Interviews show for this Memorial Day featuring (in order):
  • Attorney Davis Younts, yountslaw.com — Over 250,000 resisted Biden's unconstitutional, unethical military mandates for jab.  JAG Attorney Davis Younts joins to talk about the victory won by SEALs and others and the ongoing recriminations by Biden. 
  • Catherine Austin Fitts, solari.com — The rising resistance to digital slavery and the key to the fight — Financial Transaction Freedom 
  • Aaron Day author of "The Final Countdown: Crypto, Gold, Silver and the People's Last Stand Against Tyranny by Central Bank Digital Currencies" was formerly very active politically but when he saw the potential of CBDC to destroy everything, it became his sole focus. What can we do to create parallel economies while we confront this head on? 
  • What investigating death teaches us about the meaning of life — Former cold-case detective J. Warner Wallace, thetruthintruecrime.com,  looks at lessons learned about human nature from 15 of his most interesting crimes.
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Using free speech to free minds. If you are listening to The David Knight Show, as a clock strikes thirteen, it's Monday, May twenty seventh, year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Well, today we decided in the last minute to take the holiday off of family and friends. So we're going to do a best of interviews broadcast. You know, for Memorial Day.

It's a time that we remember those who died serving their country, but does the government value those who serve We're going to begin today with our best of interviews. We're going to begin with Davis Johnce, who defended military service members from unconstitutional, unlawful orders to force vaccinate them and of course the fight is still going on for over a quarter of a million military personnel. We're

going to talk about the film Seals Beat Biden that tells that story. Next, we have Catherine Austin Fitz joining us to talk about the rising resistance to digital slavery and the key to that fight financial transaction privacy. Arin Day will be joining us to talk about the fight against CBDC and Jay Warner Wallace on his new book The Truth and True Crime to day with us. We'll be

right back, have a good holiday. I don't know that I've ever done anything or been involved in a team effort, because that's what it was, a team effort that I had more return on the investment than that one in which we engage in the capital of Afghanistan belts the talibi. If you want a better new normal anytime soon, Americans need to put on a mask.

He told me that there was no chance that my religious accommodation, or that any religious accommodation would be granted, and sure enough, within hours, I was terminated. I had no income, I had no healthcare benefits, I had no job. They come in, handshaking, angry, telling us that they don't want to hear about our rattal snake religion, saying that we never wanted to be seen and that we're not courageous enough to fight war. Anything

below capacity and a rate is considered critical. My rating the rescue swimmers, we were at eighty nine percent, and the commandant is ready to cover these guys loose over a vaccine hand aid for an untested shot. The oath is not for the easy times. The oath is for the hard times, and it's whatever you have to make that choice between doing what the constitution says or doing what if someone else is telling me to be be a patriot, protect

your fellow citizens. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, so every military member does that. So if the military members rights are not protected, they're not protected for the rest of society. These are the individuals that are actually willing to risk their lives to fight for the constitution. Are you willing? Would you be willing to throw your stars

on the table over a principle? Would you be willing? And then I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God, and I meant it. So Seals Beatbiden dot Com. And that is a very powerful documentary. And you saw our guest in that documentary, David Johns, because he was involved in that

fight. And we're going to talk about that. And that's what we were showing at the beginning the trailer for the new documentary that's coming out, talking about this struggle that you've been involved in very heavily from the very beginning. You're in the trailer there see Duels Beat Biden that documentary. Tell us a little bit about that documentary, and then we'll talk a little bit about what the current status is of these things. So tell us a little bit about

the documentary. Davis, Yeah, absolutely, So. Seals Beat Biden was a concept that was developed. It's a relatively new news media outlet called The Republic Sentinel, and they came to me, They came to former Navy seals and others and said, hey, we want to tell this story. We

want to tell the story of what happened. We want to do it well, we want to honor these people, but we also want to do it in a way that we can prevent things like this from happening and also shine a light on the implications of everything that happened with the COVID mandate on the rights of all American citizens. So that was sort of what was behind the project. So The Republic Sentinel was fantastic. What's out now currently is part

one. It's a three part series. I'm not exactly sure when the second part is going to be released. It should be released very soon, and then there'll be a final third part that's released as well, so you can follow what's going on at Sealsbeatbiden dot Com. It's free. You just have to give them your email address in order to log in there, but you

can set up an account and watch it free. It's it's very, very well done, and I think some of the most powerful aspects of it are just telling the stories of individuals like Ason Miller, one of the Navy seals I represented in this. Talks about what it was like for those guys to go through this, talks about people being put in isolation, being essentially in solitary confinement, what it was like for him. And you know, Ace is in a great position to tell that story because he was one of the

Navy seals. From the very very beginning, they said, I don't believe this is right. I don't believe this is constitutional. We need to take a stand, not just for ourselves, but for everyone in the military that's afraid to speak up because they're not a Navy seal, and for the American public. And he was willing to be court martialed. He he and I sat in a room together and I said, if you don't follow this order,

you understand what could happen. And he was ready and willing to be court Marshal if that's what it takes, So I'm so glad that he's able to be in it and tell part of his story. Then there's other people that were critically involved in sort of rallying people to this cause and creating not just a rally point, but a way for people to get this information out

there and have the courage to take a stand within the military. So it went from you know, isolated individual military members working on this on their own to at one point, I think we've talked about this number before, but even the DoD admitted that there were two over two hundred and sixty thousand military members that were not compliant when the mandate came out. Wow, right, over two hundred and sixty thousand. That's over thirteen percent of the total military

force that we're not compliant by the time the mandy came down. And that's the DoD's numbers. So you know, how far we trust that. I'm not sure how we go on that, but Steals b Biden is an effort to sort of tell the story of what happened, and then as you get into episode three, I'm told the goal of that episode is really to talk about the future and how we take stands against things like this in the future and learn from what happened. That's excellent. And it all begins with the

individuals. And you know, I've seen some articles. There was one I saw the other day somebody said, you know, there are more people involved in all of this than you think. You know, just as they want to make everybody think, well, you're the only one who had a family member die from this shot, or you're the only one who got paralyzed from this shot. I know it was happening to everybody. They did such a great job of trying to isolate and adomize and you know, cover this up

with everybody. You point out thirteen percent, two hundred and sixty thousand people, even according to their numbers. And of course you look at the things that they're doing with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. How they rig those numbers last week, it's just amazing. But they always rig the numbers. They rig the COVID numbers, they rig the protest numbers and all the rest of this. But it really did come down to this strong to the individual.

You know, when you make this stand, each and every one of us is going to have to make that stand as an individual and make that individual decision. And I like the way the documentary trailer started with that Vice admiral. I think it was who said, most important fight he's been in, and it is true, because this is a fight for our country, or fight for our constitution and for everyone's individual rights. And I like the way they came back to him and he said, you've got to be willing to

throw those stars on the table over the principle. And the sad thing about it that bothers me, Davis is the fact that they have pushed so many good people like that out of the military. I think that's a big part of the agenda. What do you think? Yeah, you know, And I didn't want to believe that right and very early on in this people started talking about a pergure otherwise. But I was you know, I was a jag, I was a lawyer in the military. It was a lieutenant colonel.

I submitted my religious accommodation request. I trusted the process and then it was denied, and it was denied properly, it was denied for the wrong reasons, and so I had great pause. But I'm like, Okay, I'm going to appeal my own, you know, religious commodation. I'm going to help everyone else do it. And I quickly realized from the beginning they weren't going to be granting these religious accommodation requests. The goal was one hundred

percent compliance, no matter what. And then it doesn't take very much imagination to start thinking about, Okay, if you have a significant portion, you know, ten, thirteen, fifteen, whatever. The real number was percent of the force that is objecting to not just to being vaccinated, but being but objecting to the way this is being done and the way it's being forced on the American public and on the military for their their moral, ethical,

and religious reasons. Then you have to realize, wow, who's leaving the military. Then it's people that are willing to question orders. It's people that are willing to say no. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution in the United States. I'm not going to turn my back on that. And people don't fully understand the documentary he helped tell this story. But I can just rattle off examples of how this policy was in direct violation of

constitutional rights and indirect violation of federal law. And they knew that, and they refused to stop. I mean, the best example, and it's almost humorous if it wasn't so serious for so many people. But the Department of Defense Inspector General, the Inspector General's office supposed to be the watchdog for the Department of Defense, and they work for the man, so you have to

wonder how independent they really are. But even they did a cursory review of the religious accommodation process and they said, Department of Defense, you are not doing this correctly. It is impossible for you to be doing the individualized review that's required by law. There are not enough hours in the day, days in the week, you know, weeks in a month in order to do

this, because you're spending you know, they did a calculation. It's like, even if you were working ten hour days with no breaks, you're spending minutes at most on each one of these individual acommodation requests. That's not what the law requires. The DODIG wrote a memo, sent it to Secretary of Austin the Secretary of Defense and said, you need to see this because our initial analysis is you're violating the constitutional rights and you may be violating federal law

by the way you're doing this, and it was ignored. It was ignored by the Secretary of Defense, and no one even knew that that memo existed until it came out through a foil request almost two months later. In other words, they were kicking people out any people's careers, continuing to do this without even like a strategic pause to say, Okay, hey, we need

to look into this. They simply didn't care. And so that you know, if there's no other lesson that we can learn from the documentary from what happened with the COVID mandate in the military, is that we had an executive branch and military leadership that were willing to ignore federal law and the constitutional rights military members to accomplish a goal which was one hundred percent compliance with an experimental

vaccine. Yeah. Yeah, And we had a lot of people who were scientists or people in the medical community and they didn't wake up until they're working on it and said, Yea, we got this other thing over here, maybe this works, and maybe that works. And that happened in many different

ways, many different places, and they were immediately shut down. We have one solution, and you're going to do this and it's like, wait a minute, there's something wrong here, right, And so you're seeing that everywhere, but fundamentally, what happened to people in the military, it's essentially the same thing that we see in private companies or we see in the hospitals,

for example. The government bribes people with money and then it says, and then you're going to do this or we're going to take that money away. And so it ultimately comes back to what that Vice admiral said, You got to be willing to throw those stars on the table over your principle. And that was the same thing that happened to nurses and hospitals. You know, they hold your career, they hold your livelihood and your lifeline up to you,

and you have to make that decision. Am I going to stand by the money and the career or am I going to stand by my principle. And that's why this is a story for everybody inside the military or outside the military. And a lot of people have gone through this fire, and the good thing about this is they've come out on the other side. And I've talked to so many people who have absolutely no regrets about whether they lost their job. Many of them found something else to do. They're happier about that.

The people have regrets are the ones who had their arm twisted and went along with a coercion. Those are the people I see over and over again who have regrets. Yeah. Absolutely, And there's just been tremendous community built out of what happened. And you know this idea you were talking about earlier of isolation. You know, during this whole military fight, there were so many times when someone would call me and they'd be like, I'm the only

person on my entire installation. My chain of command is telling me I'm the only one. I'm the last hold out. What do I do? I'm all alone here? And I'm like, no, you're not alone. I have talked to five other people that are your same installation that are being told the same thing by their command. They're being lied to a about that.

But just even the idea, and that was part of the whole idea of what the Navy seals like Asimilla did and were willing to do, is they were willing to risk their careers in order to get the word out there. Hey, you're not alone, You're not alone, You're not isolated. There is a whole community of people that are taking a stand, and the idea

is courage is contagious. And one of the things I think is a difference, and maybe this is hyperbole, maybe it's not, but people like as Miller being willing to take a stand and saying oh and not comply is a difference. Other people throughout society that took a stand. Restaurant owners, gym owners, doctors, nurses, small businesses, they took these stands, and

the fact that they were unwilling to comply. Churches as well is why we didn't have concentration camps like they had in Australia in the United States right because there was not the political will to do that, because there was enough people, even though as a small percentage, saying no and not complying with this government overreach, and so the government didn't have the political ability to carry out as much as they could or would have without that. That's what we need

to learn from this. We need to have communities of people willing to come together, willing to rally at the local level, using the doctrine the lesser magistrates to take these stands, and if nothing else, I think that's a lot of what is hope to be, you know, taught and talked about through the documentary. Yes, they're so focused on speech and controlling our communications

with each other because they want to do that isolation thing. And you know, when you look at the military, I think about it, how much they they've got to be. It's got to be an especially difficult thing for people in the military because they spend so much time trying to create this cohesiveness. You're part of a unit, you know, you're not just an individual out here. And that was part of what you and others were saying about this. You know, by isolating these people and making them the other,

you're really harming that kind of cohesiveness. But I imagine the people who are being ostracized and isolated over all this stuff, they really feel that to a great degree than somebody who is just working in a civilian job, because in a civilian job, you're not trained to have that kind of a team unit idea. And now you are kind of leaving the team and betraying the team. Is the way they're betraying it to people, wasn't it. Yeah?

Absolutely, I mean that was part of the pressure that was put on myself and so many military members, and when you get down to people like maybe seals, the team, the cohesiveness of that team, that small unit tactics, all of that comes together, and it absolutely was. There was a lot of pressure put on individuals say well, everybody else is doing it, just go along, go along, go along, and not everyone else was doing it, which was part of this. But the other thing is,

you know, again you have to understand these individuals. So many were motivated by the fact that they believed this was wrong, and all they did was start asking questions, right, That's all a lot of us did is just ask some questions. And you weren't even allowed to ask questions. As soon as you started to ask questions, then you were you know, you were faced with tremendous pressure. And you know, I've seen it over and over

and over again. We're all just the mere fact that you're asking questions has been met with challenges from the military, isolation from the military, and it

went past COVID. I'm still trying to fix people who lost their security clearance, not because you know, the mandate was repealed so they were in good standing with the military again, but because they had written a detailed memo to their commander explaining why they felt it was unlawful to order military members to receive an experimental you know, medical procedure, a medical product under federal law. Why they believe that. Then they were being challenged as being disloyal or exercising

poor judgment, and they're trying to revoke their security clearances. So most of those cases so far we've won and we've gotten the security clearance back. But that was sort of like the next level. And again, when you see things like that, you start to say, that really does feel like a purge. Then if you're not, just if you're not just saying, oh, you survived the COVID mandate, but now we're coming after your security clearance

because you dared say that you think this order might be unlawful. You know you're not allowed to do that. That's the exact opposite of the way our military was built and designed and just the DNA of our military. We used to have a military that really focused on the small unit, the platoon, the platoon chargeant, and individual freedom of action within your area of authority.

Even on the battlefield. We've won battles historically as a nation because it didn't matter if a small unit was cut off from the chain of command or communication, they had the freedom and they were expected to exercise good judgment and carry on the mission even without you know, a general officer telling them what to do, right, And that was the difference between you know, the Allied military on D Day. In the German military, no one would wake up

Hitler to release the tanks. On D Day. The Germans may have pushed us off the beaches, but again there was this command structure where they had no freedom of action. That's what we've moved to in our military. So on a very practical level, COVID exposed that punishing commanders and anyone who ask hard questions, that's a dangerous thing. That's something we need to be working

hard on in our military as well. We need to go back to a concept that we want free thinkers who within the structure of the law and the constitution, feel comfortable doing their job and doing it well. That's what's made us have the best and most powerful military when we've been successful. Oh yeah, and that's what makes our economy work, not having central planning, not having total centralized control. And yet that is the essence of what they want

to do well. You've got a lot of different things that you do there at your website is Yance Law. That's why owe you NTS Law. You've gotten a lot of military experience. You help people who are Christians who are being persecuted. People can also follow you on x at Davis Yance Yo you NTS again and tell us a little bit about we've only got about a minute half give us a little bit of a commercial for what you do at Yon's

Law. Yeah. So we are focused primarily on representing military members, So we help military members with all kinds of things, rising from the level of administrative actions to court martial cases. We have pushed into since COVID a lot more religious freedom issues, so we're able to do that and we use our experience. I've added another attorney to the firm, Caleb Bird, who is a former senior Army prosecutor who's outstanding on these issues as well. So that's

our goal really to support military members. We want to be in a position to encourage military members to do the right thing and to help them navigate the process. So that takes us all over the world, and we hope to be able to continue to do that. As long as God allows it. And as you pointed out, I mean, there's just no end to this.

They're so tenacious. Yesterday I was talking about how Alvin Bragg Manhattan, DA, he's coming after people over COVID stuff still, and so the military is especially you know, as you point out, taking security clearances of other people. They are out to get their revenge against anybody that pushed back against their narrative for centralized control. And it just keeps going. So thank you so much for what you do, David Shantz Yance law dot com and you

can also find him on Twitter or x at Davis Yance. Thank you so much for what you do, sir, appreciate it. Thank you, God bless you. Thank you. Have a good day. All right. Joining us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Always great to talk to Katherine, and especially wanted to talk to her as we go into a new year. And she's also got she's working very hard to try to help people get financial transaction freedom. We're and talk about what that is. She's got a tour that's

coming around Tennessee that's going to be happening there. Catherine, in case you don't know her, she's president of Solari Incorporated, and that's at Salari dot

COM's s O l A r I dot Com. She is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner at the US Department of Housing in Urban Development and the first Bush administration was the president of Hamilton Securities Group and she has designed and closed over twenty five billion dollars worth of transactions and investments to date and has led portfolio investment strategy for three hundred billion dollars of financial assets

and liabilities. She understands the financial landscape and she is committed to liberty. So joining us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, David. I'm excited because I'm coming. I'm headed to Tennessee this month and I'm hoping what I come through. I'm spending more time on the eastern side of the state these days. I'm going to come through and meet you on I'd love to do that team, I'd love to do that. Yeah, I love to do that. And you got the tour that's

coming up, and let's talk about that. But first let's well lay out what financial transaction freedom is. But let's talk about twenty twenty four, and also looking back at twenty twenty three, how do you see the top story? As a were talking off areas, you have your top stories for the year that you typically cover. What did you see as the top stories for twenty twenty three. So we are great believers in open source intelligence. It's

Leary, and every week we pour into our databases the top headline. So we're constantly pouring. You know, if you do a search for the David Knight Show, you'll find a bunch of stuff. And you know, so we have a new media list and we're pouring in headlines from you know, all different sources. We get people sending us links all on in the world. And then weekly I do a show called Money and Markets with Titus and we pick out the top twenty stories and talk about those for that week.

And then when we get to the quarter and the year, So every quarter but the last one is the annual wrap up. We have a team of four people who synthesize all the stories and sit down and say, Okay, what are the most what are the most important stories that people, you know, individuals or families need to know to navigate this environment. What's important, and every time I can, I'm into one of those efforts, and it takes us about a month to build out to the top twenty stories for the

quarter of the year. I think, well, I know what's going on, you know, I'm on top of it. I'm watching the news. And yet we go through the process and we realize, after we've collected everything different, you know, together, it's like, oh, you know, I didn't realize how big that was or how important. Anyway, this time we normally our top story is on the financial cupdeta are the going direct reset. This time our top story was not only very different, but typically we

put all the top twenty stories on one page. This story was so big and so long it had to have its own page, and the other nineteen stories second page. And the title is twenty twenty three the Year of Pushback. Wow. And what I didn't realize, David, until I pulled it all together, in all the different categories, the extent of the pushback. You know, it's almost like twenty twenty, we get whack, twenty twenty

one, realize something's fishy. Twenty twenty two, we decide to take action, and we start twenty twenty three you see the lawsuits filed, you see the you know, the the the different you know, business has started or initiatives started, and you know, there are many different categories. But what happened is the pushback blossomed. And then if you look at how it's blossoming and who's doing what, what you realize is twenty twenty four is going to

be explosive. It's beautiful it that's going to be the case. The question is going to be putting the plunger down, honey, I said, you know, I said when I was talking about it, because we do, you know, we do a recording and it's a mega recording with doctor Ferrell that will publish next week with the analysis of all the twenty stories. But I said, this is like a big game of Texas Chicken where the establishment is trying to centralize and the pushback is not only pushing back but saying,

you know something, We're going to do our own reset. I call it the building wealth reset. You're doing the going direct reset. We're going to do the building wealth reset. We're going to build wealth, bottom up, family wealth, community wealth. You know, we've had it with you guys destroying and stealing everything so you've got these two cars going together at sixty miles an hour, and you know, the pushback team is looking much stronger than

I ever realized until we did this. So I came out of the process so enthusiastic. I think it's going to be a great year. Our quote for the commentary for this year is from a preacher down in Texas. He says, he said, our situation is defined by extraordinary opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. That's like the guy who the American general who is surrounded and he goes, that's good news. Were going to attack them in any direction,

right, I guess that's where we are right now. You know they've done their best justess around us. Well, you know that's the thing. I look at it and I get frustrated because it seems like there's so many people who don't know. There's a lot more people who don't care. H and then even amongst the people who know and care, a lot of them don't really know what to do. And that's what I like about what you do, because you've got some action items to take, and especially focusing on

the money part, because that is such an important aspect. That's a fly you know, it is central to the country. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we just have subscribers. You know, we had these hats called you know that they're orange hats and say make cash great again. And people are sending us pictures from all over the world. Here's you know, you know, cash, make cash grade again on top of Mount Kilimajarro. You know. But they're sending us pictures, including of their kids because they're having

you know, they're giving them the kids. But we get stories from all over the world out people are using cash and seat of dialing back the systems. And it's so inspiring to hear all these stories because not only are they using cash, but they're beginning to engage with local businesses to talk about, Okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to do?

You know, they're talking to their banks, they're talking to their credit unions, they're talking to the local businesses, and it's almost like they're coming out of the trance and getting ready to transact our way back to freedom. Good and it's good. We did a great I did a great interview in twenty twenty two called Where to Stash Your Cash in twenty twenty two, and we're going to redo it this month where to stash your cash in twenty twenty

four. But it's sort of helping you build resiliency in your day to day life. And we also have a program called Building Wealth because you know, as I said, we do need a reset, but we need a reset that rebuilds and builds family wealth. And family wealth is the basis of community wealth. Sure, and you know the problem with what's going on is we basically have an organized crime operation that's stealing and taking our wealth. So that's

got to be reversed. So you've got to you know, push back against them getting financial transaction controlled, which and then they get that, they will take everything everything, They will take everything, so you know, it's slavery or freedom. But we also when we say no, we reject your complete control. We have to take responsibility bottom up to build the kind of culture and economy that you know, we want our kids and grandkids growing up.

And that's absolutely true. I've said many times I forget to have said it. I said, you can't win a culture. Whar if you don't have a culture. We don't have a culture we have. We just set back and let them feed us a culture, and we just kind of you can't wait. You can't run a financial system just with law enforcement, right, you know, the enforcement, the only productive enforcement comes from a moral culture and institutions that will allow their people and encourage their people to be moral.

You know, it's funny. I just did an interview today with a gold company here and I'm in the Netherlands right now, and they're a wonderful company. I've only done it. I've only done maybe four or five transactions with them, but each time totally clean, totally professional, high speed, no monkey business, no dirty tricks, everything clean. It's a whistle everybody. Now to the drivers are great. It's like boom boom, boom, boom boom, and and you think, you know this is how it should work.

Yes, but they have. If you look at who owns them and how they operate, they're highly model. And you know it's culture that's going to drive that. I don't know if you saw it, but we did this wonderful panel with CHD. Tennessee in Rogersville was Senator Nicely and Representative Halsey, and oh it was who can I tell you? It was so great? First I did a speech, then we did the panel. If you watch it, just cut to the panel because Halsey and Nicely are great.

But Halsey gives this whole description of how the Constitution came out of, you know, a culture and a morality. And unless we you know, unless we protect and nurture and force that culture, nothing good can come from anything. And it's a it's very eloquent. I agree, And it is very important to have people that you trust and everything. That's why, you know, we work with Tony Ardban at Wisewolf gold and he's even set up a

website David Night not Golden. And we were just talking about yesterday how Costco they sold what was that one hundred million or three hundred million, I don't know what it was, an amazing amount of gold, you know, but Walmart is getting in it now. But it's like, you want to deal with people that you know and people I don't know Walmart knowing what I own exactly exactly. Now you get down to Walmart and you good bye with JP Morgan card, you know, in the of America card, And that's the

that kind of defeats a lot of the purpose of that. You say, and forward to your financial transaction freedom. You have a quote from William Faulkner. It says we must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. I thought that was really profound. You know, we always talk about, well, you know, we got the constitution, we got this and that. You know, well, yeah, they had the declaration of independence, but they still had to fight the war, you know,

to get independence. You can't just enquire your independence. You got right, it could happen. And that's really what this document is about. The financial transaction freedom. Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us, first of all, give us your definition of that. So there are two big documents in this in this wrap up, and the first one, interestingly enough, came from Tennessee. I was meeting with a group of state legislators

and some of the government officials. And there's a wonderful guy who runs the revenue departments and uh, a really smart guy, and he said, would you write a memo for me on financial transaction freedom? Freedom? What is it, what threatens it, and what can we do to protect it? And you know that's that was a harder job. I got my general counsel and I and we wrote it, And so let's start with what is financial

transaction freedom. Financial transaction freedom is the ability to trade, you know, to trade money for goods or to barter's swap, and to do it in a way where one it's private, two you have multiple options. Cree, it's liquid, and nobody's stopping or controlling you by controlling your financial transactions. So we all know the story of what happened to the Canadian truckers. That

is financial transaction control. Now what I believe. If you go to Solary and you down on the right, there's a panel that says videos on financial transaction freedoms and CBDCs, and it's a list of eighty eighty short videos that show you what the central bankage are planning on doing, including a certain total control of your money. Oh yeah, so that one they can make rules centrally and enforce them centrally with AI and software on all digital systems that control

your money. So if they just they want to raise taxes, they just take it out of your account. If they decide it'll help with inflation, they just freeze your account, you know, and they describe the deposits in your account as an expression of central bank liability. It's not your money, it's their money. That's number one. Number two, they want a program

money. So if they don't want your money working more than five miles from your house, or they don't want you buying pizza because they think, you know, it's not good for you, then your money won't buy pizza. Your money, you know, your digital your digital cards and digital transactions and bank transactions won't work, you know, if you're more than five miles from your home. So it's called programability anyway. So if you look at the

first couple videos, there's also one of the great videos. There is a video from one of the presidents of the one of the twelve Fed banks saying, I understand why China wants CBBC's, but why would Americans ever let this happen? You know, I mean, because you're talking about a slave system. If they get financial transaction control and control of the food supply, which is part of what they're up to, And if you look at some of our wrap ups, we've written a lot about that recently as well, because

it's you know, it's part of the same play. If they get financial transaction controlled, David, and they can control your bank account, you know, and and institute taxation without representation. Then they can dictate anything. They can dictate what drugs you're going to take. They can dictate whether or not you've got to take injections. They can dictate where your kids go to school. They can dictate that your kids can't live with you anymore, they've got

to come to you know, X y Z government boarding school whatever. You're talking about a slavery system. And one of the fourth video in the stack is Richard Warner, the top central bank expert in the world in my opinion, academic expert, explaining that one of the top central banks heads in Europe told him that it's a chip. They're planning and putting it in our hands. So and we've seen discuss the World Economic Form with the head of no

Key and others talking about how we're going to all be chipped. Yeah, yeah, for convenience, you know, for convenience, and it really is for their convenience. Yeah, yeah, you want to have. I played the video over and over again from that was produced in Ukraine and they said, well, you know, after we get past this war and we're victorious, twenty thirty is just going to be great. You know, when you any interaction that you have with other people, but especially all the different things

that you're required to do with government. We'll just make that so convenient because we'll have a CBDC and we'll have your everything that you have will be on your phone and so forth. And it's like, wow, this is totally comprehensive it. As you pointed out, they're going to be able with the programmability make your money invalid if you're not in the correct area. It's all

about enslaving and imprisoning this, you know. And yeah, right, so when the World Economic Forum says it's twenty thirty and you have no assets, the question is how do they strip you of all your assets? How do they strip you of your property rights? How do they strip you of your assets? You do it is if you can get total financial transaction control, then you can strip people of all their assets. You just turn off their money. That's right. Yeah, we already saw a little bit of this,

you know, you mentioned the Freedom Convoy. That was a big wake up for everybody because now it's no longer a conspiracy theory is a conspiracy reality. They've already done it, and then we saw, you know, a January the sixth, We saw Bank of America, you know, creating a stazi list of here's all the people that had financial transactions within this area on January the sixth. And oh no, by the way, here's our records

of all the people who use our credit card to buy guns. You want to put those together, FBI, so we know how they're going to use this. It's very sinister. And when you look at it, it's almost as if you know, the Bank of America who was asking them, would you like us to confiscate their money and lock up their accounts? Right? Exactly? Yeah, It truly is amazing. So you know, when we

look at it, there's some other things on it as well. I'm looking at the memo and there's a downloadable PDF that you have at sari dot com. But so if you come into Solaria, it's just it's Financial Transaction Freedom Memo, and we have it in PDF and you can download. We sell hard copies for free, or we put it in the wrap up. You

can buy that. But if you're a subscriber, but just download it for free, printed out, make as many copies as you want, spread it everywhere and so you define what you just to find what financial freedom is, you've got to have multiple different ways outside of their system, a lot of different options and things like that, privacy and no surveillance and that type of thing. But then you also have action items, because I've had they I

talk about CBD So go ahead, tell us about the action items. The next step, well, to understand action items, you have to understand what threatens financial transaction freedom because it's not just central bank controls and CBDCs and digital IDs. It's also power outages, okay, it's cybersecurity attacks. There are all sorts of other things. You know, when the cyclones hit in New Zealand, the governor of the central bank there gave a press concerts afterwards and

he said, thank God for cat. If we hadn't had cash, we would have been and I, you know, I never I'll turned to John Titus that week and I said, I guess he didn't get the memo. But remember when there was that huge power outage in Kentucky for weeks. If you if you didn't have cash, you were in real trouble. Okay, So there are multiple things that can compromise because what we're talking about doing is

not allowing digital systems to get control. Yes, and that's why we always say to people, the first thing you can do is to roll back digital systems. Stop being so dependent on digital systems. You want to have analog alternatives, and you want to be resilient in the face of real hiccups with digital systems, whether it's a power outage, whether it's government sanctions, whether it's central bank intervention, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But

you know, build that resiliency into your life. There many ways you can do it. So the first thing we talk about is, you know, is using cash and starting to engage with local businesses, particularly your farmers and your farmer markets fresh food because the most important thing you need to do in this environment is you get a good, strong, clear brain and healthy body.

And that starts with good, healthy, fresh food. And as we know, there's terrible deterioration in the quality of the food, so you know, line up your food locally. The second thing you can do is bring transparency. We have a wonderful post we link to it from that memo caled I want to stop cbdc's what can I do? In it? Lists eleven things you can do. But one of the things you can do is tell

your family and friends. So we have these eleven or we have a link to these CBDC shorts and they're one minute, you know, the first three or one minute each and the fourth one is two and a half minute, really short. And in those three one minute videos, they will scare you to death. And I defy anybody to think they don't need to take action once they see those, you know, so you don't need to read a

lot of books or watch a lot of long videos. You know, in three one minute videos, we can communicate to you why you got to do something about this. That's great. Another thing people can do that is exceptionally important is talk to your financial service providers. Talk to your CPA, talk to your attorney, talk to your bank, talk to all these people and

get them realizing that they've got to push back. If the state, if the state banking associations start to push back and protect people from transaction control, you know, and compromise of their financial transaction freedom, they can have a huge impact. And they should do that because if you look at what the central bankers are up to, they intend to consolidate the banking system. They're rolling out the FIT is rolling out the fast payment system. We saw what

they did to a group of banks last week. They're going to consolidate the banking system, which is going to be terrible for the small business economy and terrible bottom up for the health of the economy and family. Well, so you know, get your banks, get your investment advisors, get your CPAs, get your lawyers, get all your financial professionals lined up and educated,

you know, bring transparency and get them on board. The next thing you need to do is there are you know, there are ten plus states in this country that have legislative agendas that are filing and knocking through bills that are going to protect the financial transaction freedom of the people in those states. You know, you and I are in Tennessee, and Tennessee is absolutely leading the way. It's one of those states, and they're working on, you know,

sovereign payment systems or banks. They're working on bullion depositories in a way for citizens to store their gold and silver but transact their gold and silver within the state in a way that protects, absolutely protects financial transaction freedom and voting gold and silver to be legal tender, so we can't get locked into a CBDC system. You know where we don't have legal tender unless use CBDCs. There they've already taken in many states. In Tennessee, the sales tax off.

Part of that legal tender bill is to make sure gold is over protected from capital gains tax they're taking. They're doing moves to protect and build analog payment systems so again that you can't have your digital systems shut down or controlled from out of state. They are now bringing nullification laws. I'm sure you've talked about that, changing the definition of money so it can't be you know,

CBDCs can't be included in the definition of money. Nullification bills. I mentioned nullification already, nullification bills to make sure that constitutional, any law that's unconstitutional under both the federal constitution or the state constitution is included and then intercheck there. Last time I talked to a senator nicely, we're talking about this pistol brace thing, and he goes, oh, we've already got taken care

of. You know, we passed this nullification thing saying that if the federal law conflicts with the Tennessee law, and he said, and then we passed a they can't do it, they can't enforce it. And he said, then we passed a law to make pistol braces legal. So they're on top

of it. They really really are on top of it. And they are talking about educating the banks and you know, your CPA and anybody that you deal with financially, and it's a really Last time I talked to him, he was saying it was difficult to get the local banks to understand that a state bank was going to help them like it did in North Dakota, where they have a lot more local banks than any other state, and they have worked to help them. And he goes, but they you talk about a

state bank and they think it's some kind of competition. So he came up with the idea of calling it a Tennessee Reserve system and he said that stand And yeah, brilliant at that, isn't he? Yeah, I think, Senator nicely. You know, our our our team at Soilary, our number one goal this year is to support financial transaction freedom because we want to be free, and if we don't get financial transaction freedom, we won't be free. And for us to be free, we need everybody to be free.

And I look around and I say, who are the most astute politicians who can understand and move this kind of you know, build this infrastructure, you know, one bill at a time, because it's going to take many, many bills and quite an education. And I think Senator Nicely is the most effective politician I have ever known or dealt with Washington State politicians, you know, global here in your I've never met a more effective politician my life.

Oh, I agree, I absolutely agree. Yeah, And so you know we're talking about is you got to see this panel in Rogerville because he also happens to be one of the funniest people alive. At one point he was talking about his you know, I said to him, Senator Nicely, you know, I hold you personally responsible for the traffic problems in Tennessee because for the last ten to twelve years, you keep lowering taxes. And he said, yeah, my wife says, you know, he's married to a Texan.

He says, my wife says, if we lower taxes anymore, he said, everybody's going to move in here. And it's my fault that we have all these Yankees and Californians moved in. But I tell my wife, this is you got to watch it. It's so funny, he says, I tell my wife. He said, you know, I don't mind the Yankees moving in because one thing we know about Yankees they will fight. And we learned that the hard way. He really does know his history. That's

the other thing that's very interesting about sta and nicely. But you know what you were talking about the pushbacks, and one of the things that you mentioned when you were talking about pushbacks was, and you touched on it just now, the definition of money and you see sees and you mentioned that South Carolina had done that. I know that. Yeah, South Carolina moved to Florida and so so how many you have changed the definition of money to say nay,

CBDC. But it's going to be but we are going to allow this and that as a definition. Yeah, I don't know how many. I know Florida's done it. I know South Carolina has done it. We have a team that's trying to collect but identify who has done all you know, in fifteen different legislative categories, who has done what in terms of a state bank, a sovereignby and depository whatever. So as we as we do that

we find more states. I will say this one of the things I would like to have more capacity and is understanding how to protect states through the UCC because a lot of the monkey business happens through the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code. So if there are UCC attorneys out there who are willing to help, please, you know, this is a call for help because the UCC is you know, it's it's state by state, but it's highly complicated, as you know, David, and I think you know a lot of a

lot of the games are happening inside the UCC. Well, you know, I remember when I first heard about that in conjunction with the CBDC. It was Christinome in South Dakota who said, you know, this thing came across and we vetoed it. But you know, be aware that there's more than twenty some odd states that have had that pushed out. And the next thing

I saw was that DeSantis went the opposite direction. You know, what they're pushing out was legislation to say that CBDCs would have to be accepted as money. DeSantis went the other way and said they will not be accepted as money, but we will accept bitcoin and cash and all the rest of this stuff right that we currently have and so now South Carolina has done that as Well's that's good news. There's so many different ways that we can push back on

this and again went back. You know, there's a lot of pushback lawsuits against the companies because of damage and things like that. It is a constant struggle and it really hard to try to keep to get a sense of whether people are waking up. I got to the point where I just thought, nobody's we're going to wake up in twenty twenty. I just a tremendous number

of people are waking up. If you look at the pushback, I'll tell you one of the greatest pushback sort of clusters is the state ags and treasures. The Treasures are pushing back like crazy against ESG. We just had the Treasure of Utah write a letter the SEC to try and stop or delay the proposed comment rule ending on natural asset companies, which is another you know,

talk about talk about real trouble coming anyway. But the pushback by the state ags, you know, so Missouri versus Biden is a great example of litigation file by Louisiana and Missouri. You know, But the state ags and the

treasures are on the move and they're teaming up. So if you look at the filing at the of the Utah Treasure at the SEC, his letter was signed by himself in twenty three other treasures, So you know they're teaming up groups of ags, groups of treasures that Larry Think and Blackbrok have had to roll back their whole ESG initiative because so many treasurers have pulled money or I think one now I think Tennessee has sued, No, it's the treaser.

Somebody in Tennessee has sued the I think it's Scermetti, the I think it's Skermetti, the Attorney Journal, it could be the AJ said it is fraudulent because you're telling people that they're making an investment, so therefore you're going to be trying to do things that you know are exercise care, fiduciary care, the financial side, but you're completely ignoring the financial side, and you got your own agenda over here. Well, but there's something else. Blackwork is

making huge fees off the state pension phones. And if you look at the hypocrisy of what Larry Think is saying, it's it's extraordinary. I did a wrap up in twenty nineteen called an ESG Turned the Red Button Green, and basically what I was describing was all the hypocrisy in the system because they're using it to enforce central control as opposed to enforce real standards that improve, in my opinion, the governance of society. So, you know, so Larry

Fingers has gotten called out on his hypocrisy, that's great. That's the treasurers who are coming out and saying we're going to move our investments away from them, putting financial pressure on them. And then you've got some attorney general's attorney's general who are saying, well, this is fraudulent and we're going to sue them because they've told people that their company is about this, but it's actually about this other thing. Well, here's the thing. At the very heart

of the pushback in all these different forms. What you're seeing is people on the ground who want to be productive. You know, people want to go to work and do a good job without having to you know, share bathrooms with the other sex, Yeah, and get into that conversation. They want to go back without you know, they want to be free to say something without being fired. For you know, offending hate crimes. All this stuff

is destroying productivity and they've had it. So what they're saying is we you know, so if I'm a treasurer, I'm looking across the state and saying, the guys in Washington and Wall Street and Basel, Switzerland are using climate change as a ruse to shut down our businesses, take control of our markets and steal our money. Yes, why should I finance them doing that? Because they're not doing what they say they're doing. They're just using this to

assert central control. You know, just like during the pandemic, you shut down ten small businesses, you leave Costco in the same shopping mall open, and you know, on the theory that the magic virus only operates in small business, but it doesn't operate in large publicly traded stocks, and you scarf and steal the market share from the small businesses. Had nothing to do with health. It had to do with shifting significant market share out of locally owned

and controlled businesses into publicly traded stocks. You know, And in a way that made Larry think a lot of money, okay, and it's it's a scam. Yeah. That made me so angry when that was happening because I had lived that with my wife and I we had a video store business back in the early nineties and we had a hurricane that came through and took power out for several days, and we finally got it back in one area.

We opened up that store, and then the police came by and said, you got to shut your store down, and I said, well, Walmart is open right across the store, right across the street. You know, you got to shut your your business down because you're you're attracting people to come out and drive around. They shouldn't be out driving around now. And it's like, well, who you'd make that decision? Number one? And number

two? You're telling me essentially what Trump said, You're not essential. You know Walmart is essential, but you closed down because you know they want you know, basically, it's the big guys stealing market, sure from the old guess that's right. It's very simple. It's a steal. It's called a taking, yes, yes, and it's you know, hurting Main Street in

order to help Wall Street the big companies that are that are essential. And so when I saw that, I'd already lived that for just a couple of days, and it made me so angry to see that they were going to be putting people out of business who had poured their sweat and energy and capital into this and worked it for years, just to be told they're non essential. I still get angry when I think about that, but talk about some of the other things. Here's but here's what happened in twenty twenty three.

In twenty twenty one, people agreed to play along with that are twenty twenty because they thought the government had a legitimate reason. Once you understand that this is just a mafia trying to steal your business, that's when you say, oh, two people can play this game. So you the municipality are going

to shut me down. Great, I'm going to audit your books. I'm going to get all your financial disclosure, and I'm going to dig into your money, and I'm going to dig into the money of everybody in the city council. By the time i'm through, y'all going to be gone. So we have a wonderful woman who works for us in Tennessee. She was in Knoxville. She tried to get the mask man and canceled and couldn't do it, and so she went in and figured out the committee you know, in

government that was deciding this. She figured out how they were formed, and she got the committee canceled, and they canceled. You know, there was no mask man because the committee that was supposed to implement it was gone. That's great, and that's what really needs to happen because and that's the thing that concerns me is that, you know, we're not In so many cases we have seen people who are just, oh, I'm so glad that this

isn't happening again. They realize there's a fraud. They don't want to play it along with it. But now that it's ended, as you point out, everybody just wants to get along with their life right instead of going out and say they want to be productive, they want to build family wealth. And that's why you have to give them ways of pushing back that they can

push back in a way that helps them build family wealth. So what we're saying is make yourself more resilient, make yourself more successful, lower your dependency. Every time you pull money and market share out of the companies that are doing this, you know, and the support the politicians who are doing this, you make yourself more powerful. You make yourself stronger and they get weaker. So it's like it's like having a tapeworm. You know. What we're

saying is detox the tapeworm to make yourself stronger. And anytime you can do anything that lowers your dependency on their systems, like using cash. I mean, using cash is really you know, can save you a lot of money. I mean, we've proven again and again if people use cash, they spend less, they're more careful, they think through, you know, their purchase decisions. But you can also build up incredibly great relationships with your local

business. You know, in the process of transacting with them. It's a much more intimate way of transacting and you find all sorts of opportunities when that conversation gets going. So people are busy, and this is an exhausting environment in many ways because of the compliance and rules, and people don't like to fight and add friction and because that doesn't get them anywhere. A lot of times, you know, they see a lot of people fighting in ways that

aren't effective. They don't want to be a part of that. So you need to give them ways of pushing back which help to build their strength and power. And wealth. I go back, the most important one is they have to be healthy and that means, you know, if I encourage anyone to invest time in building wealth. Step one is getting the knowledge you need to take responsibility for your own health and making sure you're getting clean water and

nutritious food and you are not get poisoned. You know, because we are in the middle, particularly in America, a great poisoning oh yea, and people are getting sick from being poisoned, and they need to understand what the process is and how to protect themselves and their family. And if people are really good at protecting themselves from the great poison David, they have ten times more energy, that's right. So step number one is get yourself off the

poison treadmill. And when you look at it the you know it's going to cost you more to get this other food, right, but not if you compare that to what's going to happen if you get sick and you got to engage with a healthcare system. Okay, that just blows what. You can buy organic food all day forever before you have your first hospital bill. They're going to really fleece you. Talk about destroying you financially, that's what happens

with the hospital system. So if you can stay out of that and all clean food, you're way ahead of the game, even financially, not alone in terms of enjoying the help. Absolutely that Our anial wrap up last year is called pharm of Food and it was on synthetic food and lap grown meat,

and it was the hardest thing I've ever had to read. We hired this wonderful Dutch journalist, elsavon Homeland to write it, and she did an incredible job, and when she came back with it so the first time in my life, I couldn't read a draft the whole way through because it's so evil. If you eat the hundreds of billions of dollars they're throwing it, making thirty dollars hamburgers that are you know, created with three D printing.

Is it's so horrible. You can't imagine that they want anybody to eat this, you know, and nobody's going to eat it without financial transaction control because they're going to mandate the only food you're allowed to buy or sort of bugs and synthetic meat. So anyway, we published it and I thought, David, it would be the least popular wrap up that we ever published because it's

so horrible and gruesome. We published it and it's brilliant. It really warrants you about what these guys are up to and why you can't allow financial transaction to control happen because this is the food they're going to try and feed you. And anyway, we published it and it was hugely popular and successful because all the fresh food people used it to market. You know, all the people of the farmer's market are like, you know, here's what they're going

to do if you don't support us. And I had one subscriber writing as what you know, we get these great emails and they said, you know, I have tried and tried and tried to get my husband to buy from the local farmers and farmers market and really develop our fresh food supply locally, and he says it's too hard work and it's too much money. I gave him farm of Food. He said, I am all in. Well, say, you know, it's great that you got that. It was really

a shame if we moved here. We finally found a local farm that was doing a clean local food and everything, and uh huh, you know, we could get Raw Milk as a membership club and things like that, Oh wonderful. And we only did that for a couple of months and then they said, we just got a close. We can't can't keep it going. There's not enough demand. And that's the key thing. It really so sassin. Now we're looking again, you know, but it is so sad to

see how difficult it is for them to maintain that. But how imuch, I don't know. If Edible Communities has a magazine for your area, look at the Edible Communities. It's a franchise of local food magazines all over the country. And I thought I knew every fresh food farmer in my area until I got the Edible Communities magazine from Memphis, and I found so many great

sources after I got it, So I would check that out. And of course check out the Western Price Club where you are, because they're Western Price chapters all over the world and they have the greatest networks into knowing what the great food is in your area, and they're the ones who've led the campaign on raw milk, and raw Milk is one of the great success stories because we're now up to forty six states, you know, where there is a

pathway to buying raw milk, and that is extraordinary and it's been the rest and price guys who really did that. So yeah, and of course the other part of this, And Thomas Massey has been involved in this and I've reported it's my hero. Yeahs Massey was here of the Week three times on this lay important twenty twenty three. Yeah, he's by far and away the best US congressman this half the absolutely hands down. But he's focused on this

whole thing about the fact and a particular Amish farmer. As a matter of fact, there's an update that just happened. This guy that's been harassed by the USDA because he wants to butcher the meat there on the farm and do it cleanly. I'm sure I can't remember the guy's name, but I'm sure you know the case. Yeah, come back and hit him again, because it's very important for them that you've got to go to their centrally controlled meat

process waterhouses. Yeah, exactly, And that's it. And it's much safer. A good a good local operation on the farm is much safer. So you know, so Massy has the what's the name of the Prime Act. Yes, so we've been supporting for several years, trying to get the PRIMAC passed. And you know, it's funny one of the things I do. Uh, you know, it started with Ron Paul, but then it went

to Massy. Whenever I'm depressed, you know, I'm just thinking, oh God, it's you know, I'm fighting with what I call the force to nothing. I'm fighting with nothing. You know, i have to do something to make myself feel good. And I'll send us a donation to Massy. It's like, Okay, I'll put fuel in the leader's pocket and I'll feel better. He's a good guy. He's a good and he stands like Ron

Paul. He stands alone if he has to, Uh, well, what is in the water in Kentucky that we you know, we get because Ram Paul's in Kentucky, Massy's in Kentucky. Yeah, he definitely stood up and he stood up against that trillions of dollars that Trump wanted to put in. Trump wanted to get him out, but he didn't get him out. So that's good. I think the people my favorite. If you go to Silaria and do a search for Massy, you'll pull this up. One of the

heroes of the week was Massy absolutely slaughtering that idiot from Texas. Uh, you know, not many idiots come from Texas, but this one is the Secretary of Transportation on electric cars because mass he's an MIT engineer, yes, you know, and he knows the whole, the whole. You know, electric cars are mathematically enter you know, the the math of the energy, the math of the environment, the math of the economics. They're absolutely insane.

They make no sense whatsoever. Yeah, it only makes sense in the scientific term if your degree is in political science, and that's what he also did. If you want total control, so if you want to be able to turn off people's car, So if I lock you down, you can't go more five miles from your home, your car will turn off and it won't work more than five miles from your home. I know exactly what it's about. Digital concentration camps. Yes, right, right, that's true.

Yeah, yeah, he had he had John carry on and John carry any FOI So you got a science degree, well, yeah, he goes political science. Right, that's what I want. Jim Carrey's got a political science degree because there isn't any you know, there isn't any science between these I call them mcguffin's, which is what Hitchcock called them. You know, it doesn't really matter what it is. It could be the Maltese falcon, would be something else, but it's whatever motivates the people to do that. So

it could be the virus, or it could be the climate. But they've always got the same solution. Yeah, you got to get an idea and you got to put them in charge. Is big them permission for everything. But it doesn't matter what the mcguffin is. It's interchangeable. Just whatever you use to motivate the people. It seems like it always. So when I became Assistant Sectory of Housing, the Secretary wanted to do a big housing bill. You know, he wanted a big accomplishment. He wanted a big housing

bill. So the goal was how do we get the Democrats on board for And we got Jim Rouse around Fanny May I'm sorry, Jim Rouse around the Enterprise Foundation and David Maxwell around Fanny May. They had done a big commission on housing that proposed a lot of decentralization. They were both big Democrats, and we got David and Jim to come in wonderful men and camp the secretary is trying to persuade him into a new housing bill, and a lot of

what Camp was proposing was more centralization. And David and Jim were, you know, they're wonderful people, very big hearts, and they and they were saying, well, you know, Jack, you're a Republican. Republicans beliuting decentralization, and we proposed a lot of decentralization, and you know, so we think you should, you know, you would like what we're proposing.

And uh, and there was he had these two little assistants from the Heritage Foundation who were truly frightening, and one of them said, so Jack is proposing more centralization. The Democrats are proposing decentralization, which is supposed to be the opposite of their their ideologies. So they said, you know, don't don't you want to decentralize. Why would you want to centralize? And one of the special assistants bursted out. He says, yeah, but we're here

now. That's it. We're here now. Yeah. It's like, bring the blood to the empire headquarters, Bring the blood to the empire. More extraction, more extraction. That's why I had to leave Washington, That's why I moved to Tennessee. It was like, you know, you can't decentralize from Washington. That's right, that's right, You've got a nullify. You've got to have some things at the local level. So you've talked about some of these things, Sovereign State Bank. I'm looking at your list here actions

that can be taken to secure financial freedom. And so you start out with state and local government, but then you talk about having some local organizations to try to help this mate, because you don't want to all be in. You can't get too much done on your own. You've got so you've got three different sections. There's state and local, you got what you can do with small associations, and then things that you can do as an individual.

It's a great right and what you can do as an investor. I do want to mention the second memo in the document in the Financial the Future Financial Freedom and wrap up is our Sovereign State Bank memo by Richard Werner outstanding and explains to you why you do not want to let the central bankers consolidate the

small banks. You do not want that to happen. And the pandemic, you know, was hard on the small banks and we want a strong small banking and it it explains why the health of an economy and the small business economy in Main Street depend on lots of healthy small banks and so one of the most important things. And this is what correct understands. And I don't think that the banking associations understand yet. They don't understand what a threat CBDC

and digital idea and fast payment systems are. And you know, I want to stress again what we're trying to get is financial transaction freedom. CBDCs is not the only problem. Fast payment systems and what they can do with credit cards and banking accounts without CBDCs. You know, that kind of control is a real problem. It's a real problem now, so as we solve with

the Tennessee truckers. So anyway, so this memo on sovereign state banks is very very good and important and it helps you understand why you want the state to be able to transact without the Feds of the central banks being able to shut them down, and to afford that protection to the local banks and the local citizen. Sense. You want financial liquidity that the FEDS can't kill. That's right, that's right, and right now we have, as you know,

you're well aware. We look at the situation how the deficit has exploded. I talked about that earlier. You know, we were at only about ten trillion dollars about fifteen years ago, and now has exploded up to thirty four trillion dollars. But I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.

As I point out, there's all these other things in terms of obligations that the federal government has, and so there's this massive system that is really not sustainable and corrupt, and so what happens as we start to see it's also another thing that's happened is the deficit is going up, and as we're using the dollar as a weapon, fewer and fewer people are using a broader or or getting off of the dollars a reserve currency. What are going to be

the implications if that continues and accelerates. What's going to be the implication? Higher prices, higher prices, higher prices. So as the squeeze comes on a value, you know, basically the reason everybody's been going along with the crime is the you know, the criminals have been sharing you know, crumbs with us. Yeah, so if you talk to a state legislator, why can't we establish you know, so Tennessee is considering rejecting federal education aid.

You know, there's an addiction to the money, that's right. So the central banks print money and use that money to buy us even though that drives up inflation. So at the end of the day, we don't end up better off. But you know, we have this addiction to getting federal money. So we're on the doll and as we stay on the dole, our economies get weaker and weaker and weaker, you know, and we become more

and more dependent on that doll. So so there is a financial addiction going on to central bank printed money, and that is going to the question is when is the pain great enough that we're willing to walk away from that money. Now as they share lesson less crumbs and prices go up and up from this sort of inflation game, you know, when are people going to realize

we are better off creating the conditions of sovereignty rejecting that money. And while I will tell you, David is you know, in the nineties at Hamilton Securities, I did a lot of simulation of what we could do if we took government money and we re engineered it to optimize economic health as opposed to central control. Yeah, that's right. And if you know, it's going

to be a rough transition because we've delayed it for so long. But if we go through that transition, we can build a much more moral and productive society. Oh I agree, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, that's always been the case, and it's been difficult. I've had this frustrating thing, feel like I'm banging my head against the wall when I talk to people about what happened in twenty twenties. Said, well, Trump didn't do it, and I said, no, you understand it's the money, right, That's

how they get That's how they get around the tenth Amendment. They bribe people, They get you addicted to the money, and then they pull it back and say, well, now I'm going to blackmail you. If you look at what happened with Trump. You know he's out there his administration. They're giving a twenty percent bonus if you identify somebody as COVID. They're giving you a bonus to diagnose them at thirteen thousand dollars thirty nine thousand dollars, you've

ventilator twenty percent on everything that you do. And then when Biden comes in and now that they've gotten used to this money, he says, well, if you don't get everybody in the hospital vaccinate, I'm going to not give you any Medicare or medicaid. I'm going to shut everything off. That's the

way it always works, going back into the night. But I'm going to be tough on Trump because he's swum ten billion dollars of taxpayers money into a military program that completely bypassed all the safety things you know that are implicit in healthcare law to poison millions of Americans. So that's right. Yeah, he's

a poisoner in chief, absolutely no doubt about it. Exactly. It was a military operation, that's what i was a military operation, and he put ten billion, He put ten billion dollars behind it, and he appointed to run a man who was a bring machine interface expert from Glaxo Smith Klin. Yeah, and they've been practicing this, you know, since two months before nine to eleven. You know, they've had their annual germ game thing and

it's coming from the from DARPA. So of course they're going to have the White Speed thing be a military thing. Yeah, it's really difficult to get people to understand that. Sometimes. I explain, you know, when I was, when we were doing homeschooling of our kids were now grown, I know that there were a lot of people in the homeschool facil a community that wanted to say, well, let's have let's let's fight to get our kids into the sports programs and the band programs and things like that. And I

said, you know, there's going to be strings attached. All that money and all those benefits that you're fighting for. They're going to use that to blackmail you. And that's exactly what they do. They get around the Tenth Amendment by offering people money, getting them addicted to the money, and then say okay, now put the boys in the girls bathroom. We're going to take the money away. It always works out that way, really. So

one of my favorite quotes is from Franklin Sanders is that wonderful. I don't know if you've had Franklin. He's wonderful, precious metals dealer pastor in Middle Tennessee. He says, all government money comes with a sock in the jaw. That's a good way to put it. Well, tell us a little bit about the tour because we're about out of time. It's going to be you're going to have So I'm coming down to Tennessee. I should be there by the twenty third, and then I'm heading over to Middle Tennessee. I

got a lot of meetings in Nashville and some of the surrounding states. I'm going to drop down to Mississippi and Alabama, and you know, some of the lot of the states around Tennessee are talking about doing the same things and talking about how they network together. Yes, as a thing too, having a network of states. That's one of the things Senator Nicey's talked about. I got to get. The network of states is you know, I don't

want to call it the confederacy, but anyway would be. I guess, but I because now you're talking about something that's much more bottom up, where

the states cooperate and coordinate, you know, deal by deal transactions. So you so you have a you know, so so you have relationships where you're helping each other do a better job, go faster, and they're you know, given the different strengths of the different states, there's so much that can be done to cooperate between those states that will really help advantage each other.

So, you know, I think it's pretty exciting. And if you look at the you know, we have an extraordinary number of very capable and talented state legislators who have been you know, they haven't gone up to the federal level. They haven't become senators or congressmen because they're too clean. Yeah, they're too clean. But they're very, very competent, and they're very capable, and and it's taken a while for them to realize, oh, I'm

more competent to engineer this than you know, all these hot shots. You know, they're they've got a control file, they're they're on, you know, they're on a leak. I'm not on. I can do this. And so that's what's important is that the state and local races is far more important. You have far more leverage than you do with Washington. So I'm telling you to spend almost all your time and money this year on your state and local races. That's right. You know, don't worry about the federal

election because this will be sincided. And if you're in a state that where there's not going to be financial transaction, freedom and you can move. You know, you may get your you know, think about what I don't want to say that because the traffic problem is really that. Think about what happened in twenty twenty. And that's where you can see that where the rubber meets the road is at the local level. So your schedule is going to be there as I'm coming. I'm coming at the end of January, and I'll

be over. I'll be in Hickory Valley for the first week or two, and then I'll move over to Shelbyville and be going up spending a lot of time in Nashville, and then I'll be networking around the state for lots of meetings, and then head up to New England for the the end of figure I'll be there for a week and then come back to Tennessee. But I'll also be going. We'll be going around the country and we'll at some point we'll put off our schedule by the end of the month so people will know

where we're going. We're really responding to clusters of people, particularly Celerat Report subscribers who want to meet up. And it's great because when you know, one of the things that happens and this is one of the reasons I want to do this is we have these wonderful subscribers and they're in a place and they say they're no like minded people around, and I'll look at our database and I'll say, look, they're a ton of like minded people around,

just they're all subscribing to the larboard. So we'll go there and meet up and then everybody meets and it's so amazing to watch, David, because literally you can be in some of these meetings and within within an hour they look like they've known each other for twenty years. It's so fabulous, you know, it's so fabulous. So anyway, so we're going to try and do a lot of meetups and make sure people can find each other, you know,

sort of in their local areas. Good. So people check the checkslar dot com, say your schedule as it gets finalized, because you're still building that. So that's great. Looking forward to seeing you at one of these and I'll be checking the site to see where that's going to be coming. Thank you so much for joining us, Catherine Austin Fitz, Thank you, David. I just love what you do. I always love what you do, and thank you. Thank you very much. The common man. They

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I was going to say, you know, if he wants to extend this campaign, he could have me as his running mate. We could be Dan Knight. But we are not on opposite ends when it comes to CBDC. We're both of the same mind and as I said earlier in the program. I saw his article on Brownstone and it was actually an excerpt from his book, So we want to talk to him about that. But as he was

running for a president, he made CBDC the central point of that. And so thank you for joining us, Aaron Day, appreciate it, thank you for having me. And we were talking off air, and I wanted my first question was going to be you said you have suspended your campaign now, but my first question was going to be what was your take on how some of the candidates have talked about this issue. Of course, we'd had Desantist talk about it, we had Ramaswami talk about it, and we've had Trump

recently talk about it. Tell people your take on this, and tell people your story about what happened after you suspended your campaign. Sure well, I ran for president specifically to bring this issue up. In fact, my goal in running as a Republican was to try to get into the debates so that

I could elevate this issue on the national stage. Little did I know that the debates were going to turn out to be, you know, meanless, people wouldn't watch them, and they were going to be structured in such a way where you couldn't even talk about issues like CBDC or anything that happened with COVID. But in the process I did chat with many of the other candidates, and in fact, I've given copies of my book to several of the

candidates. The most interesting one was with Vibek. He actually read my book and we discussed it. I gave him a copy of my book in June, and I actually have interacted with him on a number of different occasions. And so when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, one of the first things that happened was he had consulted with Trump on the CBDC position. And so Trump came out in New Hampshire and Portsmouth actually, which I'm in New Hampshire,

That's where I live. He came out and adopted an anti CBDC stance. So I was grateful for that, and I hope that in a way my book and my conversations with by Vek actually helped push that issue and put a sense of urgency around it and the other candidates. As you mentioned, DeSantis has been anti CBDC, rfk Junior has been anti CBDC. Haley has not spoken about it, although based on her idea of you should have a you know, need a digital ID in order to access the Internet. I

guessing she's going to be on the wrong side. I think she would say, if you're going to buy something, I want to know your name, because he wants to know your name if you're going to get on the internet. So yeah, I thank you. Exactly, Yeah, exactly. But part of the conclusion of my book is that they're really I believe there's a greater than fifty percent chance that we're going to have at CBDC implemented before the

twenty twenty four election. And so a big part of what I'm doing in this book and in doing workshops across the country is trying to educate people on what they can do outside of voting, which is to exit the dollar and move into self custody crypto gold and silver and start using it in a parallel economy. And part of what happened happened is traveling around the country. You know, I spoke with Senator Ted Cruz, who is the leading opponent of

CBDC in the US Senate. He put a bill out there to try to stop CBDCs and halt CBDCs, and it failed. And he said flat out, there aren't the votes in the United States Senate to stop CBDCs. It's that amazing the Senate is currently Isn't that amazing that they won't vote for it? You know? I saw that Tom Emmer, who's the House whip. You know, he came out in opposition to CBDC right about the same time as desantists did, and I thought, well, that's good, and that's

interesting. Where's he coming from? And then I realized that he's got a lot of ties to cryptocurrency, And of course there is this, you know, the pushers of CBDC, like Liz Warren and Biden, all the rest of them. They want to shut down the competition from cryptocurrency, obviously, and so I kind of got the sense that Tom Emmer was talking about CBDC in order to defend the people that he's allied with in the crypto industry.

But before whatever's motivations were, I thought it was good that it was happening. But isn't it Isn't it depressingly strange that nobody in the Senate will support something that has the ability to turn us into the worst dystopian novel that anybody

has ever imagined worse than anything people have imagined in the past. Well, it's strange, and it's really discouraging because one of the things that Ted said was that he thinks that there's a reasonable shot that Elizabeth Warren becomes the chair of the Finance Committee in twenty twenty four, depending upon the outcome of the election. And in fact, Cruz himself is only ahead by two points in Texas and so there's been a lot of discussion about the amount of money Soros

is putting into Texas and everything else. So Cruise is actually, I believe it or not, on the hot seat there again after his challenge from Beido last time around. So yeah, he said absolutely. So they're really there, really aren't the votes. I mean there are some. Cynthia Loomis has

been one in the Senate who's also been pro crypto. But I'll tell you what I think is going to happen is we're going to have a situation that is going to gain bipartisan support for pushing a CBDC, and that's going to

be around terrorism and money laundering. And you're already starting to see the discussion around that, and that is an issue so let's say now that you know Biden has decided we're going to begin our military excursions in the Middle East, if there's a terrorist attack in the United States, I could see us having CBDC implemented in a matter of a couple of weeks here in the US if there's a terrorist attack, because they'll say, well, it's about money laundering

and terrorism. Crypto's bad, they'll say, because it's used for terrorism, which isn't true or not even close to the scale that cash is used. But then but then they'll say, well, we can't have cash either, because cash can't be traced. And so this is going to be the typical reason of using a fear based event to push something that absolutely scripts us of

our rights. The questions, how is Obama going to get billions of dollars to to the Iranians if we can't send them a plane filled with the cash foreign currencies especially, maybe it'd be the other foreign currencies of other people that he'll use to pay them off. But the problem with these CBDCs is the ccs. CBDCs are not like Bitcoin, where there's a transparent ledger of all of the transactions and a fixed supply the kinds of CBDC they're looking at implementing.

They're going to have control over how much they will be able to digitally print it, and they'll be able to me program the money in ways that we're not going to be able to see. So in some ways they're going to have even more capacity to do nefarious things. I agree, based on

how structure. Yeah, we didn't start with that in terms of the features, and listeners of this program pretty much know about CBDC, but it kind of lay out the case against this in a nutshell when you would present this to people who didn't know anything about it, because, as I pointed out in the past, a lot of times, people didn't know what CBDC was. But if you described the functions to them and it's the potential risks of this, the downside of it, they didn't want to have anything to do

with it, but they didn't know it was CBDC. So what would be the nutshell case that you would give to somebody who's kind of coming into it cold. Yeah, I mean basically, Central bag digital currencies or CBDCs are basically a form of digital money that can be programmed, monitored, and censored by the government. So basically, you know the way you'll hear the globalist present it is it's all about financial inclusion inconvenience. But in reality, they

will be able to see every transaction you spend. They'll be able to even control how you spend money in the first place. So if you've ever had a health savings account, a health savings account is basically a debit card that you'll get from Visa MasterCard and you can only spend it on certain health related

items. Well imagine that concept except applied to everything you buy. So in other words, if you're trying to buy something with this digital cash and the thing you're trying to buy isn't already on an approved government list, you can't buy it. It's also the gateway to other things like social credit systems and

everything else. So in the future, if your social credit score drops, if you say something on social media people don't like, if you use too much CO two, based on whatever their guidelines are, they can actually restrict your usage of cash. If in the future the government decides they need to stimulate the economy, they can actually say this. And I've seen this in the EU and some of the language around how they're looking at their CBDC.

They can literally just say use it or lose it. If you have money in your account in the form of CBDCs, if you don't use it by such and such a day, we're literally going to remove it from your account. Because this is the way that we want to stimulate the economy. It is complete control over human behavior using digital cash that's controlled by the government, and to me, it is the single biggest threat to human liberty, which

is why I ran for president and it's why I wrote the book. Yes, yeah, And of course you know, when we look at it, it's it's by knowing everything that you're doing, they can, you know, ration things to you like a food, meat and things like that that they don't want you to have too much of. It's also it hearkens back the beginning of the excerpt that you had in that article that was up on Brownstone.

The excerpt from your book was it kind of begins with, you know, life, and these people are living in this smart city, fifteen minute city, something like that, and unfortunately the husband says something that the political authorities take exception to, and it reminded me very much of what we always

would hear about stalinism. You know, they control your job and therefore your money, but they also owned your house, so you didn't know you couldn't work except with their approval, and they were the ones who were providing you with a home. So if the political authorities didn't like that, you were homeless and you were penniless, and you were out on the street. But this is far worse than that because they have so much more visibility as to

what you're doing. And when we talk about the fifteen minute city issue, that's another aspect of the CBDC. They can you determine where you can spend that money, so maybe you couldn't spend that money out of outside of your little fifteen minute area or maybe the larger smart city that they have put you in. You can't go to another place and have anything to live off of when you go there. So it's about the kind of control that people have

only theorized about in dystopian science fiction models. But it is that and more. It is really a horrific thing. Well it's that more. And actually if you look at the UN seventeen Sustainable Development Goals, you can actually get a sense what I did is just an exercise, as I said, okay, well, let's look at all these seventeen sustainable development goals. If you were going to turn that into a social credit score, what would you measure

and what types of incentives and penalties would you put in place? And how would you tie that into a tracking system and into CBDC. When you go through that exercise, what comes out of the end is something that looks a lot like what already exists in China today. I think one of the big issues with this and my big urgency on this again the reason I've been a serial entrepreneur and a political activist for a long time, I dropped everything to

focus on this because really two things. One, I saw the person who introduced me to bitcoin in twenty twelve is now spending eight years in federal prison or the act of selling bitcoin. Another friend of mine who started a company called Library or Odyssey you may know it. It's a platform or content, he was targeted by the SEC and basically put out a business because he was

using the blockchain technology and was using tokens. And so I started to see that not only was the government is cracking down big time on decentralized cryptocurrency, and I wanted to look at well, why are they doing this, because my friends who are suffering through this, we weren't doing legal activities. They were actually very much hardcore liberty activists that were just engaging in voluntary activity.

And then when I studied how far cbdc's had gotten, then I saw, well, wow, the alarm bells went off because as of today, there are one point three billion registered CBDC accounts globally. People are not aware of this. China, Yeah, go ahead, China. China has deployed CBDC these they're gradually they started out with two hundred and sixty five million accounts. They're rolling it out to the rest of the country. There are eleven other

countries that have already implemented CBDCs. There are one hundred and thirty countries that are at various stages of either exploration or piloting CBDCs. And to put this into perspective, bitcoin's been around for fifteen years and there are multiple different types of crypto. There are five hundred and eighty million people globally using decentralized crypto. There are one point three billion CBDC accounts, So the growth rate on

This is phenomenal. And of course it's forced, so it's a little bit different than you know, whatever voluntary adoption might be. But it's eclipsed crypto. And the more alarming part, and I actually wrote an article that's on zero Hedge about this, is the United States has completed three successful CBDC pilots

and this does not hit the mainstream news. And if you ever hear fedchair Palell talk about CBDC, he does one of these, well, you know, we don't even know if we're going to consider it seriously, you know, we're it's it's still at the discussion stage. The reality is they've done three successful pilots. The first pilot is called Project Hamilton, and it was done as a joint venture between the MIT Media Lab and the Federal Reserve of

Boston. And this is basically what would replace cash. This is basically what you know, that's the substitute. And in their pilot that they did from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, they got the technology to work and it can handle one point seven million transactions per second. So to put that in perspective, the current financial system does between fifteen and one hundred thousand transactions per second. So they've developed a CBDC that is more than ten times the capacity

of the existing financial system. And in the conclusion what they said is, well, the technology works, but we need to figure out the legality and how to market it, which to me says they're waiting for a crisis to

put it to work, but people aren't aware of that. Now this gets even worse because this MIT Multimedia Lab, the chair of the MIT Multi Media Lab is it was a guy named by the name of joy Eto, who famously received funding from Jeffrey Epstein and visited Epstein's island a couple of times. And the article that I wrote about this goes into some I've uncovered some things

that were really astonishing and not to go into too much. I don't know how much technical detail your audience is used to on crypto or getting into any specifics. Yeah, go into the specifics and go into the details. They can handle it. I'll say this, so you know, I've got involved

in bitcoin in twenty twelve and I've been using it. In fact, in New Hampshire there are stores and restaurants where you can actually use or could use up until about twenty seventeen, you could actually use bitcoin to buy and sell things in the state in Hampshire. Something happened in twenty seventeen where there was a big split in the bitcoin world and the white paper for Bitcoin it says in the first sense that it's supposed to be used for peer to peer digital

cash. It's supposed to be used for people as a means of exchange, means of basically, it's a currency, And all of a sudden in twenty seventeen, the narrative shifted from bitcoin being about digital cash to it being about digital gold. Now it's something that you hold to preserve your value. It's something like gold. You don't use gold typically today for day to day transactions, but you use it to preserve your wealth as the dollar keeps on losing

its value as we keep on printing more money. Well, it turns out that the developer, one of the main developers who is involved in making this technical change switching bitcoin from cash to gold, was also one of the authors of the white paper for Project Hamilton, the CBDC and his the funding came from this joy Eto guy from MIT Multimedia Lab, and I found that I found an article the only article about this where Epstein was interviewed, where he

talked in twenty seventeen while all this was happening about how he liked bitcoin but didn't think it was a currency but instead thought it was a store of value or digital gold. So we have a situation here where this MIT Multimedia Lab with funding ties to Epstein and Gates because Gates was actually funneling money into the

MIT multi Media Lab through Epstein. So it's like it's real incestuous. Wow was involved in both developing the CBDC pilot and I would argue hobbling bitcoin at the same time, And there's one common developer that was involved in both of those tasks. Wow. So there's that. There was another CBDC pilot called Project Seater, which is a wholesale CBDC pilot, So it's basically banks communicating with one another for larger volume transactions and doing cross border transactions which are very

expensive and cumbersome. Now, how does that fit in with fed now, which is what fed now is sold as a hostel thing? Is that was that a priminary to fed now and Project now that actually that was launched after fed now, So fed now is technically not a CBDC FED now is an infrastructure. It's it's a it's basically a makes real time settlement possible between banks in the United States, So the focus of it is domestic. This project

CEDAR is about programmable money that is cross border. And then there's an even more dystopian pilot called Regulated Liability Network. And you know, I find with these things, if they give it a really boring name, then there's probably some real various agenda behind it, because it took me several times to read the white paper on this thing to fully understand what it is. And the idea behind Regulated Liability Network is a one database basically to track all CBDCs and

non CBDC transactions. It's basically like an uber database that tracks everything, whether it's cbdc's from one country to another, or it even contemplates, you know, bitcoin. And what is really frightening is the idea of tokenizing everything. So this is a big movement right now, and you'll see Blackstone talking about it real world assets and everything else. But basically we're moving to a model

where people are tokenizing everything, tokenizing stocks. This computer that I have in the future could be tokenized every asset you have could have a digital token associated with it, and through this regulated liability network, you're going to be able to have multiple regulatory agencies monitoring sent and tracking transactions across different blockchains and CBDCs

as well as these digital tokens. So in the future, Wow, not only could they shut off your money, but if I go to the store and I buy a new Apple computer and it is associated with a digital token, if the government decides my social credit score drops or they don't like what I say on social media, they can not only shut off my money, they can shut off access to my computer or and my ability to even sell the computer. So it's like it's the next level dystopian infrastructure that they're putting

in place. Those three pilots, all three of them have one commonality, which is funding from the MIT, Multimedia AB Wow Wow, and one network to rule them all essentially. And you know there's also funding from DARPA going to Microsoft or something I talk about frequently, the Coalition for Content Providence and Authentication that is there to quote unquote push against disinformation misinformation. It's there to

shut now free speech. But what that does is that marks anything that you do and it's a coalition of hardware and software manufacturers as well as a coalition of gatekeeper media companies that are allied with the government. And so when we look at this every aspect of our life, free speech, and any kind of commercial transactions, they want to centrally control and be able to shut down anything and everything that we do, our speech, our movement, our financial

transactions, everything. But the CBDC is right at the center of all of this. And of course, the Biden administration began what was it March ninth or something, twenty twenty two, where he tells everybody in the federal government to got four areas that we everybody had. All of the bureaucrats under the executive branch, the deep state, they all had one of four areas that

they need to report back on back to him in six months. It was how we going to completely redesign the financial system, how we're going to do the software to make this thing work. Law enforcement had one of the different branches, how we're going to enforce this and force people to do it. And finally they were going to market it with environmental issues, because that's one of the tactics that they use against cryptocurrency to say that, you know,

the crypto mining is too inefficient. But of course these are people keeping dossiers on everything and everybody in the world and keeping them at their data centers as well as constant surveillance and data mining. So that's kind of a sham. But they're very serious about that, and as soon as they did that, they started rolling out fed Now but you believe that this is something that may happen even before the election. I think it happened before it could happen before

the election. This is why I'm so passionate about this and trying to get the message out. But yeah, Biden passed Executive Order fourteen and zero sixty seven, as you just described, which which contemplates both pursuing CBDC and also regulating all of the other digital assets, and they've been following through on that.

There are numerous exchanges that have in fact, most of the exchanges have gone under There are numerous tokens and projects that have been targeted by the SEC, like my friend who started library, and my have a friend who's in jail for selling bitcoins. So they've actually been cracking down on bitcoin ATMs,

your ability to buy and sell. The irs just passed a new thing which which says that you know, you have to fill out paperwork for any crypto transactions in excess of ten thousand dollars, And of course they did that and then didn't provide the form, So in other words, there was comply Basically there's no way to comply, and so basically you couldn't do. It's essentially a way of saying you can't do any transactions north of ten thousand dollars without

risking criminal penalties and going to jail. So they have been very successful at hobbling decentalized crypto and an adoption. And again, these pilots are sitting there, and the technology is sitting there waiting to be deployed and fed. Now is the infrastructure on top of which they can put a CBDC or I guess technically they could. If they wanted to be back handed about it, they

could. Actually Congress is required in order to put through a new currency, but there's nothing that says that the banks can't regulate how the existing currency is sent back and forth. So you could get effectively a de facto all of the negative aspects of a CBDC by regulating the way money is transmitted through the fed now system. So I've thought about that as a possibility as well.

So from my perspective, when I look at again Biden and what he's decided, you know, we're going to take military action in the Middle East, you can imagine a situation where if there's a terrorist attack on American soil, you will get bipartisan support for a CBDC on the basis of stopping money laundering and terrorism y And as an example for this, the Patriot Act was passed forty five days after nine to eleven, PARP was passed eighteen days after Lehman

Brothers collapsed, and the two point two trillion dollar Cares Act was passed fifteen days after COVID was officially declared a pandemic on a voice vote. Many people are still in Congress have voted for all three of those things. So the idea that they wouldn't usher in CBDCs in an emergency, I think. I think there's a high probability that they could bring it in an emergency. And from my conversations with Ted Cruz, Cynthia Leomis, and then some of the

folks in the Warren Davison and others in the House. The votes are simply not there before the twenty twenty four election to stop something like this, And again, if it's done on an emergency, it'll probably get bipartisan support. Wow, that is amazing. And of course an emergency could also include some kind of a financial emergency. That's what many people have been talking about,

and I'm sure you kind of war gamed that out as well. Do you see this possibly happening with some kind of a financial emergency, because they certainly have created their conditions for a financial emergency, just like they've created conditions ripe for World War three or a terrorist attack. Well, yeah, my opinion is that what we're seeing as an actual, intentional, controlled demolition of the

existing financial system, because it's the typical problem reaction solution model. They create the problem, they try to generate a reaction, which is usually fear,

and then they already have the solution waiting in the winnings. So they already know they want to implement CBDC, they've already developed the technology, and clearly the world is going in that direction, and so a financial crisis if you look at it, So the dollar has gone from being backed by gold to banks being required to hold at least ten percent of customer deposits and reserves.

We have a fractional reserve banking system that was a eliminated under COVID, so banks are no longer required to have ten percent of customer deposits on reserve, which means that, Okay, if you go in to take your money out of the bank, where is the bank getting the money to be able to

satisfy your withdrawal request? While they're getting it from a principle and interest on what commercial real estate which is failing, residential real estate which is struggling, consumer debt, student loans which were just restarted recently, and forty six percent folks said I'm not going to repay my student loans right out of the bat. So the bank is already in a situation where they have no reserves and basically their source of liquidity is drying up. So I think our banking system

is an incredibly weak position. And this at a time when Russia announced today one of their strategic plans for twenty to twenty four is to get off the dollar as soon as possible. The bricks are moving aggressively to get off the dollars. So you basically have pressure on the dollar, on fear currency, and on the banks for multiple directions in a way that we haven't seen in

modern history. So I think that I think that collapse is the baseline scenario, and the best thing that we can do is actually to get out of the dollar and start using self custody crypto gold and silver in a parallel economy to protect ourselves or otherwise we're going to get forced into CBDC. That's how we get forced into CBDC. All of a sudden, one day it's oh, your fiat currency is now CBDC. I mean that's to be a bank holiday, and that's it. Yes, And we have one of our major

sponsors is Wisewolf Gold and silver. You set up David Knight dot gold and whenever I talk about it, Aaron, I say, you know, I don't look at gold as really. You know, they can manipulate the price of gold, they can manipulate the value of the dollar, and so these things are constantly fluctuating and fluctuating for their advantage, and you try to time

this, you're going to get burned. I said, no, I look at it as as the because of CBDC and I look at it and you're talking about you know, crypto gold and silver, it really is necessary. You talked about the fragility of the banking system. Commercial real estate that you pointed out that is heavily, heavily impacting the small and medium sized banks.

And they're already shaky because of the rapid escalation of interest rates that left them trapped with T bills and things like that, as we saw several bank failures.

So the entire banking industry, except for the really big guys that are going to be too big to fail, they're going to be partnering with the Federal Reserve and they will make sure that they that Jamie Diamond and these people continue and there so, but the rest of the banking industry is incredibly fragile at this point because of these this volatility and the interest rates that caught them out, and because of the commercial real estate stuff that again hearkens back to

COVID. Let's talk a little bit about Nigeria, because of all the countries that tried this stuff, Nigeria was one where they did an early experiment. People didn't like it. What can we learn from that experiment and what did they learn from that experiment, because I'm sure that they have fine tuned the way that they'll impose it on us after what they saw with Nigeria. So what are your comments about Nigeria. Well, Nigeria is an interesting case.

I actually talked to several people on a Twitter space from Nigeria about this as it was going on. One of the things that you'll find and one of the things I talk about in the book is that there really is a push here towards one world global government, and there are specific organizations involved in pushing this, specifically things like CBDCs, and those organizations include the WF, the

UN, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank. And in the case of Nigeria, Nigeria is one of these examples where nobody in the country wanted a CBDC, nobody was asking for a CBDC. The CBDC was pushed on them by the World Bank and the IMF with strings, as those organizations often do as they go in and help destroy property rights and destroy countries for

purpose of enforcing their own standards and their own will. So Nigeria was not set up from a technological perspective to have CBDCs, So just from a basic perspective, so it's not it doesn't really apply as much here because obviously most people here are using online banking or have cell phones or whatever. I mean, we're already from a technical standpoint able to handle the actual adoption of it.

But in Nigeria, they literally didn't have the technical infrastructure, and so people were going to ATMs and all of a sudden who couldn't pull out cash, and you had fires and rioting and everything else, and so it really I think in that particular instance, came down to this was a country where they weren't technology technologically enabled for it, and they handled the marketing and the rollout of it in a horrible way. And if I call correctly, I

think they're ahead of their central bank is in prison right now. Because there are also claims of corruption involving a whole variety of different issues, and so I don't know that we can take much from the Nigerian experiment and apply it here. And because there are one point three billion people on the planet that now have CBDC accounts, a lot of the arguments are a lot of the complacency as well. Yeah, maybe they've done it in some of these smaller

countries, but they can't do it here. Well, no, if they can do it in China, then from a technological perspective, they can do it here. And again the tech, the tech already exists. So if people were willing to take vaccines for a donut or you know, a medium or French fries, then then they'll they'll use the carrot. They'll use the

carrot and the stick or the stick. It depends on the situation. So either we're going to have some fear based event and it'll be pushed in to keep everybody safe, or they'll try to make it one of the things where I'll get one point three digital dollars for every one dollar you have in your bank account, and most people, if they're unaware of what's going on behind the scenes, will actually take it because it seems like a good deal at

the time, and all of their marketing is about convenience and financial inclusion. These are their buzzwords. I'm going to do another article that talks about the double speak and it provides a guidebook to what these terms mean when these people are pushing this out, Because the biggest one you're going to hear We heard it at Dabbos again a couple of weeks ago. You hear it at the

UN It's financial inclusion. This is all about financial inclusion. That's how they try to market it, and it couldn't be anything further from the truth. Yeah, they want to exclude you from everything because you're not going to be a stakeholder. They're going to be the people that have all the stakes that

they're holding all the stakes on us. Yeah, that's the type of thing that Gates worked with India on with the Adhar system, and he came in saying, you know what, these people are just not included in society. They need to have an ID. It's like, oh, I didn't realize that was what was missing from my life. So new government I d And so they incentivized it with the poor people, saying if you take the number

of the government, the number of the beast you're going to get. You can get some welfare, you can get healthcare and that type of thing. And we've seen this Aaron with World Coin. You know, Sam Altman is out there saying, well, you know, you let us scan your eyeball or whatever, we'll give you some free world coin, you know, and so I think there'll be a stage. And when I look at Nigeria,

maybe they tried to roll it out slowly, kind of incentivize that. They go, well, maybe we've got some poor people here, we can offer them something, and you know it, do it that way, but people didn't really want it. So then the when the bribery doesn't work, they come out with the bands and the blunt instruments and start beating you, you know, into coercion. And and that's I think really where the emergency scenario that you talked about. I think people are going to rapidly catch on to

what this is about unless there is an emergency. And as you point it out, when there's an urgency, everybody's brain just shuts off because of the fear, and they're grasping for anything, no matter how obviously dangerous and risky it is. They will a little grab for that, you know, because this is not even something is going to directly affect their health like a vaccine.

This is something that is a danger to their freedom, a danger to them politically and legally in the future, and so of course they're not going to have as much resistance to it. I don't think as they did taking the shot when they were told there was an ergency. And it works every

time. Fear works every time they and they know it works. And I will tell you one of the things that's interesting is I traveled to twenty states last year meeting with various groups of people, and I will say eighty percent at least had never heard of CBDCs. That's right. So this is not a phrase or a concept or a topic that has hit the mainstream at all. But I'll tell you something even more alarming, and it's really changed my

strategy with this. I originally thought early, well, you know, it'll be the younger generation that will adopt this because they're more used to technology. But I've actually I'm focusing more of my attention on boomers and Gen X for a variety of reasons. One that they have all of the wealth. I mean, I think boomers have fifty three percent of the of the wealth in this country. But they also have some kind of remembrance of privacy or concept

of privacy and individual rights. What I'm seeing with Gen Z and even millennials to a certain degree is a complete disconnect. There's a I think CATO had a report out that said something like thirty five percent of Gen Z would be okay with the federal government installing security cameras and people's homes to monitor for domestic violence. Yeah, and Big Brother and so the idea of privacy. So they're going to be more inclined to be like, yeah, well whatever,

this is more convenient, it's digital. Why wouldn't we we use this. So I'm actually focusing my effort more on boomers and Gen X at this point, not that you know, eventually we need to get everyone, but the barrier is even harder for the younger generations because they don't have an expectation of privacy and they don't value they don't value it as much. So think about it, you know, and I've mentioned it many times. I thought it

was very interesting how they and I don't believe it was a coincidence. I believe they started all the Big Brother stuff, the reality TV and it was put out there when these generations are very young, and a lot of them consumed that. And then oh, by the way, now we got social media. You can do that. You can be a Big Brother celebrity too.

You might get a lot of followers, and so it really kind of helped to break down those barriers, and people became kind of exhibitionists about their private life, and they weren't careful about what they were putting out there publicly, and so they don't really care about privacy. They would much rather be

known by everybody that's out there. They don't get the big picture. You know, when DeSantis talked about it, he had about a twenty or thirty minute press conference and had the sign up that said Big Brother Digital Money, and I was absolutely blown away that. After he gives us presentation talking about what we've been talking about and all the downsides of how it could be used and abused against people, the first question was, yeah, but what about

President Trump and Alvin Bragg in Manhattan? You know what's going on with that trial. And it's like total mind sequitor about that. And so everybody is caught up in the in the in the theatrics of politics and everything, and you know, nobody there the press was really interested. Maybe they were, and maybe that was a millennial who was asking the questions like Big Brother, Who cares? I love Big Brother? That's one of my favorite TV shows.

You know, it's like there's this total disconnect from reality, total disconnect to all these existential issues that are popping up very quickly. And even if they had debates, as you pointed out, the debates that the same questions are being asked that were asked thirty forty years ago, and they're not really relevant today, but they control everything, and then they at this time around, they've even shut down the debates to shut down essentially the presidential primaries.

Talk a little bit about you said that Ramaswami read your book and pass it on to Trump. Now, you know, when I saw Trump make the announcement, he just mentioned Central Bank digital currency and our reaction to it. And one of the listeners said, so, I guess he got a hold of some of those analytics out there that said that some people are aware of this and he needs to talk about it. But maybe it was Ramaswami whispering

into his ear. But I don't really, you know, I don't trust the fact that he's going to do anything about it, because it was in his administration that Steve Manucha and Treasury Secretary and Jared Kushner were talking about CBDC and what they could do to afford it. So I think this is a bipartisan thing. As you've pointed out, not very many people in Congress have any concern about this, even if they know what it is, and this might be something that they may talk about, but you know, can we

really trust any of these guys do anything about it? And as you point out, they could very easily roll this stuff in before we even have an election. Yeah. So rum Swami did bring it up to Trump, and in fact, Trump gave him credit for it. Trump explicitly gave gave Viba credit for pushing him on the CBDC issue. Do I believe him? No? I know, you know, I was arguing with somebody saying, well, didn't repeal Obamacare. We could go through the building the wall and have

back to We're not going to go through all the laundry lists. But am I going to rest safe and sound thinking that he's not going to do this. One of the things that I have found that Trump does is he'll make a promise and then he'll go back on it, but then he'll claim it's because he's really good at doing deals and this is how you get good deals done, and then and then his followers will just accept that he never gets

any accountability because of that. Somehow he has this, he's been able to use this device of being the you know, the art of the deal. He's been able to craft that into a kind of a scapegoat for not following through on on principle. But more importantly, and this is one of the areas that you know, by Beck and I disagreed on a little bit, which is I actually put out a candidate pledge and the pledge was, yes, if elected, I will veto and do everything in my power to stop

at CBDC. But there's a second part to the pledge that says, if they try to implement it before the twenty twenty four election, I will do my best to promote the idea to the American citizens directly that they should move into self custody crypto gold and silver as a way to stop it before the election. And that's the I actually that was a sticking point with me and Viveik. I was actually trying to get him to sign that pledge. And

this is the bigger point. So is Trump you know, is he on this issue because of the analytics, because it's something that it looks like he needs to he needs to actually say in order to get elected, or is he really going to be willing to even before the election if they try to put it in use his his megaphone to encourage people to take direct action to stop it. I do not believe he will do that. I think we sure have to. We need to talk before we run out of time about

self custody on some of these things. And as you point out, you've gotten completely out of cash just real quickly. Though. It would be interesting. Did you have any discussions with anybody any other candidates besides Ramaswami that we're running, and besides Ted Cruz who has talked about any other politicians that you've talked to and what might be their responses. Well, I've got a dozen

or so state reps in New Hampshire that have signed my pledge. I've talked to state reps in different you know, Montana, Texas and a variety of different states at the local level, and there's a big push now at the state level to try to make gold and silver legal tender at the state level.

So I've been talking to some of the people involved in that. They're working heavily on that here in Tennessee, even trying to get a state bank and a state depository, and trying to get the state government to own gold in case there is some kind of a financial emergency. Yeah, so there are, so there are efforts. I've also I debated, ironically, I couldn't get into any Republican debate, but I had multiple debates with various libertarian

presidential candidates. And so the libertarian presidential candidates, not surprisingly, are all against CBDCs, and a couple of them, Mike Timott and Michael Rechtenwald, have actually signed my pledge. So if you actually look at it right now, RFK Trump, the leading candidates in the race. Everybody but Biden has at least stated their anti CBDC. So that's something. But again, to

me, it's something, but not enough. It's not enough. I know, it's more interesting that these people would even just turn their back on it. I mean, a pledge is easy enough to sign, and when they don't do that, that tells you a great deal about people like Nikki or whatever. But let's talk about the self custody and things that we can do as individuals, because there really isn't anything that we can do. I think that there's not much we can do in Washington. It's difficult to get anything

done even at the state level. What can we do as individuals? What have you done? Well? What I've done? So I got into crypto on twenty twelve and twenty nineteen, I exited the dollar completely and moved everything into crypto, gold and silver. And in fact, I'd been a political activist for a long time. I'd given up on the political process as well, so I helped get people elected. I've run for a number of different offices, and I'm like, look, this is done. I'm going to

move into crypto. I'm going to move into this technology and start thinking about parallel economies and everything else. And then COVID happened, and a variety of other things, and then I saw, well, this isn't just about having decentralized alternatives. They're taking perverted forms of this technology and using it to complete to create complete tyranny. So there's no coexisting. There's no going and hiding

in a cabin in the woods. When your opponent wants a one world global technocracy where they have control over every aspect of humanity and control the land, the air, and the sea, that doesn't coexist with you know, hiding out somewhere. So I realized we actually have to confront this head on. So you know, I've been using and my book goes into specific details on you know, which cryptos to consider wallets and with gold and silver effect.

This probably won't probably can't see this, or you can kind of see this. I'm holding a gold back. I don't know if you've seen these. This is this is you know, one one thousandth of an ounce of gold, and I've actually I give these to people if I go to a restaurant or something, I will typically give these as a tip with some kind of an explanation so that you know you now have because the one of the big concerns about gold as well, how are you going to what are you going

to do? Go to a grocery store and you know, slice off a piece of gold, and so these gold backs are a way of putting gold into a into a usable form. I've also used silver, you know, even you know you can get silver in one tenth of an ounce increments, and so you can use that actually for day to day trade. And again I'm in New Hampshire where there's a lot of receptivity to these kinds of things

with respect to crypto. You know, I recommend I'm not selling or promoted by I only recommend cryptos that are based on the Bitcoin White Paper, that are decentralized, that don't have a centralized corporate structure, because those cryptos can be easily shut down by the government, and in some ways aren't even materially different than the existing system. Something like Ethereum is completely centralized in the way

that it operates. The transactions can be reversed. It doesn't really offer any real true innovation with respect to and many people have talked about maybe you know, Ethereum might be the substrate in which they build something real quickly to put out there on people. Right, I did not realize that the Ethereum transactions

could be reversed. That's interesting, Well, they can be reversed because because now instead of it being this proof of work model where you have computers competing to solve math puzzles to see who adds the next block of transactions, these are now more controlled by whoever has more coins has a greater say in adding the transactions to the next block. So it's kind of like a normal system where it's it's controlled by a small, smaller group of elites. It's also

very expensive to use, and arguably it could be in illegal security. So what I'm looking for are specifically, and I want to be clear about this, I'm not making investment recommendation advice. I'm talking about the use of cryptocurrency as cash, as a replacement for cash, which is different than as a speculative investment. So Bitcoin, which I mentioned, went through this thing in twenty seventeen where there were some technological changes made to it made it unusable really

as cash. There is a period of time in twenty seventeen you had Expedia, Microsoft, Overstock dot Com. You have major companies and websites taking bitcoin directly as a payment option. And what happened was because of extra use, the transaction fees went up to as high as fifty five dollars. So if you're going to spend fifty five dollars and in some cases ten to fourteen days to complete a transaction, that made bitcoin unusable is money. Now they had

an option. They had an option which is they could increase what are called the size of the block, so basically make it so that every ten minutes you can handle more transactions, which is what basically the Bitcoin White Paper and some of the other discussions contemplated, but instead of doing that, they decided to implement this completely alternative system, and so bitcoin is not recovered from that peak in twenty seventeen where it was being used directly as a payment option.

They now have this thing called Lightning Network and all of these other things that are complicated, hard to use, and have a variety of other issues associated with it. So I've found myself using predominantly bitcoin cash, Bitcoin sv raven coin, and light Cooin are the main cryptocurrencies that I've been using as cash, with bitcoin cash being the one that I've used the most. So bitcoin cash actually split off from Bitcoin and has so it's essentially the same as the

original Bitcoin model, except with larger transaction capacity. So that's what I've been using. And what you can do is there are certain stores where you can use bitcoin cash directly, and you can also convert bitcoin cash to a debit

card if you need to and use that to make transactions. And then there are services like BitPay where you can actually pay in certain cases, your mortgage or other bills directly using crypto through a third party application like BitPay, and so I outline all of this in my book in terms of how you can actually acquire these cryptos and actually use them for day to day transactions to pay

your bills. And do you address having an offline wallet and that type of thing, because that's the other way that they can shut this stuff down, of course, shutting down the Internet and shutting down these online transactions. And that's one aspect of this as a boomer who's not gotten involved in this, that I don't understand, and that is the wallet offline. Is that something

that you use. Is that something you talk about in your book? Well, one thing I I didn't mention it, so I stressed self custody. So so one part about this is that you want to get a wallet, and you don't want to have it in an exchange like coinbase. You know that may be where you need to acquire the crypto, but you want to have it on your own device or there are things called hardware wallets or other options where you can store your keys and basically have in your own possession your

cryptocurrency. I mean, you get this question a lot, Well, what if the grid goes down? I mean to be honest. With the grid goes down, then we're going to be, you know, after ninety days in a state of cannibalism. That's not even a joke. So there's a So there are other things you can do around that. There are things that you can do like creating mesh networks. And there's a whole other, you know side to this, which ways of being off grid and creating alternative networks

to maybe keep some of this stuff going. But this is why I recommend crypto, gold and silver. I'm not rev recommending just crypto or gold or just silver. I think to predict that any one crypto or any one of these things is going to win out at the end of the day would be would be foolish. It's good to have kind of a balanced approach. And when I do my workshop, at the end, people will have a gold back, they'll have silver, and they'll have a self custody crypto wallet with

some crypto in it, just to get them started with the process. But it's something you have to monitor on an ongoing basis. I mean, I'm constantly there are more. I saw this Rodney Dangerfield joke. It was I went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out, and you know, and I feel like, you know, I went to a political debate and in a bitcoin folk war broke out. I mean, there's so much division and infighting within crypto and it actually it makes it hard for me.

I'd like to be able to say to somebody, by this crypto and here's the solution. I can't. What I can do is I can educate you on a variety of options and ways of looking at this and to say you need to stay up on it, because I'm staying up on it. It's changed so rapidly and it's going to continue to change based on government crackdowns.

There are lawsuits going on within the bitcoin community. There's one coming up called the Copa versus Craig White lawsuit, which has huge implications depending on how that how that goes, that will affect bitcoin and the derivatives of it. And so there's just a lot to stay on top of it. But I do encourage people to, you know, as I outline in the book, get some small amount of crypto and put it in self costody and start figuring out

how it works. There's no substitute for experience and playing around with it well, it's good and your book is the Final Countdown Crypto Gold, Silver and the People's Last Stand against tyranny by central bank digital currencies. And in that you not only lay out a fictional scenario of what it's going to be like so people can understand, so they can talk to other people about this,

but it also you got some practical tips in there as well. And where there's some comments their Travis that the people had let me read these comments. Who We've got just a little bit of time left here. This is uh, this is from Serge the Purge, who has also has a podcast. Thank you for the tip, Surge, He says, David, I strongly feel this is the wrong mentality with CBDC. I'm twenty four, I'm gen Z and my parents are gen X, and most gen xers I've talked to

think there's nothing to see here. A lot of them think that they're still in the eighties. If anything, we must educate people in my age group. We're the ones who are going to have to live with us in the future. Trump is hope porn. I personally wouldn't even entertain him. In the conversation of stopping CBDC, all just talking points, call me back,

call me blackpilled. But this is such a serious issue. I think rather educate on gold and silver and help people my age understand the severity of the future through CBDC. Most boomers I've talked to literally told me to my face, they'll be gone anyway, you know. I hear that all the time. Eron when I talk to people about taking away call you always say take away your ability to drive cars, And they said, well, yeah, I think that's going to happen, but it's not going to happen in my

lifetime. And then I would have people at auto shows who are eighteen years old who would tell me that, and it's like, and you know, we look at this stuff, and we look at how they're cracking down on this and the types of narratives that they pushed to us. I think everybody needs to be concerned about this. And I think the book that you've got there, in the scenario that you've laid out, I think that's very important.

Again, the Final Countdown. Is that available on Amazon? I guess it's available on Amazon, and it's a kindle form, hardback, paperback and also audiobook. But to address the question that you've had. I'm not just focused on boomers. The book is made to be accessible to everyone. There's a very specific reason though that if anything, I'm spending a little bit more time. It's this. It's the banking collapse as it is staged right now.

It's a controlled demolition of the banking system. In order to stop the acceleration. We actually need to accelerate the banking system collapse. And the way to do that is the boomers have all of the well. So this is just a simple math problem of if you're going to try to get people to take money out of the system and move it into these alternatives, Boomers and

Gen X simply have more resources in the bank. It's not a question of yeah, millennials and Gen Z and you know, I mean, I have thirteen year old twins, and so I certainly I'm not I don't want to leave anybody out, but we're in a we're so the material is accessible to everyone, but I'm focused on where we can get the biggest, biggest impact. And I've talked to a lot of boomers that are actually take the opposite

of you. They're very concerned about their kids and their grandchildren and they're very concerned on the other end about what's going on. And I know, I'm gen X. So you see these memes where it's like, you know, boomers fighting with with millennials while gen X kind of just sits there and relaxes and has a martini while watching it. And I'm not saying that that's what it's like. There is more well, and I'll say this too, we look at people people who retired. All my life, I've noticed this.

The people who retired have got more time, and they are not as busy with life as the younger generations are, and so many of them will get involved very heavily and be very knowledgeable about politics, and as you point out, a lot of them are concerned. I think the best of them are going to be concerned about future generations. People who are only concerned about themselves,

they're not going to be a part of the solution in anything. It's only going to be the people who are looking after who want to not ruin the future for future generations, for their children, for their grandchildren. Especially, those are the people who can make the change. As you point out, they've got most of the financial assets, they've got time that they can get involved in this instead of playing shuffle board or something, and they can

have a real positive effect for other people. And so I do you see that. I do understand and agree with that. And I think you also sell your book at your website. Is that correct? Do you want to give that to people? Well, my website is Day twenty twenty four dot com. That's my old campaign site. It just links to Amazon, you know, if you want, if you want to see what I was campaigning about. That's it's a good place to go, good centralized resource for that

very interesting discussion. And we've let it go over a little bit on time because it was so interesting. But thank you so much for joining us again, folks, Aaron Day. And the book is Final Countdown to CBE Final Countdown the Crypto, Gold, Silver and People's Last Stand against Tyranny by CBDCs. So that is actually spells it out, so you can find it there on on Amazon and of course Aaron Day you can look by author A A. R. O. N. Thank you so much, Erin and good

luck to you. I certainly hope you can get the word out. We need to get that word out. It's one of the reasons why we talked about the political position on this, and it is important to know who the people are that are so dead set against our liberty that they won't even make a worthless campaign pledge because that is cheap. That is cheap to just say yeah, I agree with you, sure you know, shake your hand, oh I absolutely love it, and then go do something else. But the

people who won't even do that, we need to mark those people. Thank you so much, Aaron, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thank you. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do your part and try not just spread it. Financial support or we telling others about the show causes this dangerous information to spread. Father people have to trust

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He is a cold case detective. This is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases things that don't have a statute of limitations, murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died and he's just going back looking at the physical evidence of it. He's now written a book called The Truth and True Crime, and I love the tagline here, when investigating death teaches us about the meaning of life. It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to

get him on to talk about that one as well. Thank you for joining us their well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate. This is my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad to talk about it. Oh, it looks like a great angle and you know, and something that you know really affects all of us, and everybody loves the crime aspect,

and the things that you glean from it too are really interesting. I think, Yeah, I think there's actually some hidden Like I was not a Christian through all my career, but to you know, the first eight years or so, I was not a believer until I was thirty five. I became a believer by examining the Gospels kind of from a forensic perspective. How do we know or why would we trust if we tested these people as eyewitnesses. Why would we even think number one, that they are written by eyewitnesses

or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses. And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? Now, once I was in I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently. Right, if you work murders, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the kind of bars are

off. I mean, this is Sadly, when you get to the point where you're willing to do something crazy like this, it's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed, and it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature.

So I wanted to write a book that has talked about like, what are these attributes fifteen attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in fifteen separate crime stories, and then talk about you know, is that something number one that Yeah, secular people, they do studies on this and they confirm that this is these are fifteen things that if you simply embrace these fifteen principles you will have

a better life. But it turns out these are fifteen ancient descriptions of human nature from scripture that that people for the most part, think they're discovering them in the last three three decades, when in fact, these have been on the pages of the New Testament for two thousand years. And so I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that that's amazing. Yeah, it's And why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first

place. Well, I was thirty five, so it was probably about nineteen ninety five or six, right in that range. It took me about eighteen months, I would say, to complete that stuff that I was. I was so skeptical and not raised around Christians or anybody really believed in God in a way they could articulate. So I didn't have like a leg up like somebody who could say, hey, look at this or look at that. I had to come at a raw and so I bought my first Bible.

I was thirty five, and it took me a while to kind of go through the Gospels, and I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all the attributes. I wrote about this in a book called Cold Case Christianity, and that book just kind of covers that journey. But that's something that'll get you to the point where you might believe it's true. Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, I have a high value for whether something is true or not, and there

are people in my generation would probably agree. But I don't know that that's the case for young people gen z and millennials. I think they're not as concerned about whether something's true because they've co opted that word. That war doesn't mean it's true anymore. It means it's true for me. That's right. It's true based on my lived experience, or it's true based on how I have applied it to my life. Doesn't mean it's true for them. Now.

When I use the word true, I'm using it in a more objective way. But it's true for all of us, whether we like it or not. I think that this generation I'm talking to now is more concerned about whether or not it's good because they believe they've been sold by the culture that Christianity is the source behind every evil intent, misogyny, racism, homophobia, whatever it may be. They are going to attribute to it, to this

traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians. So I wanted to show that, Yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching if you're flourishing, and the more you detach from his teaching, the more you're going to struggle. So I just look, this is what we're seeing in culture. And so I wrote a book this time which really looks at all of the data. So most of my books I spent

a lot of time researching. And although this book has about fifty pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are two hundred pages in the pdf file you provide online. Why because I want you to see that if I'm making this claim, it's supported by the data. But it turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture two thousand years ago. So it's eye opening for me to realize that our human It makes sense though. Think

about it. If we are designed by a creator God who knows something about us, and we are in his image, then it turns out that that book we have called scripture called the Bible, ought to describe us the way we really are. Yes, And if it does describe us the way we really are. You could consider that at least. I was listening to a pundit who usually talks about politics recently who's Jewish, and when asked when he defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because it turns out that

these principles work. M m oh, that's interesting, and he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true. Okay, And by the way, that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true. But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, it ought to describe you the way you really are. And so in that sense, it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish. Yeah, it would be necessary, not necessarily sufficient, but it would be

necessary for that. Yea's true, right, that's right, exactly right. Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature? And investigating this? Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right. So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you're somebody who's known locally, you can kind of become like a celebrity. In your own neighborhood, or at least in your own click or your own gang.

And I've got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is. And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think it's just it's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore. I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this, even think

about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC or CBS that used to be or Salem right, whatever the radio station was that used to be the gate cape keepers that kept people from becoming a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us, if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support. And that's where I think we have to be careful. It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we

could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, physical health, the deepness of your relationships that I will improve your marriage, I'll make you a better employer, a better employee, You'll learn at

a higher level, you'll get better grades, you'll make more money. I mean, every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing. And it's really the opposite of celebrity. It is the attribute we know as humility. Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us, and

why that might be true. Okay, fine, but it turns out that humility is one of those things that I think if I ask people, hey, what do you think the one attribute you could adopt that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else, I don't think many people would come up with humility. But it turns out, yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace. Now, what's interesting about that. Think about every worldview that's out there, none of them

leverage humility, like the Christian worldview. What I mean is if your theistic worldview. Your spiritual worldview encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe. There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system, because at some point you're going to look across the room and

say, I'm doing better than that. Did. We measure based on our achievements, right. And I have a friend who's now no longer with his name Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events together, and he used to always tease. Ill writ in this book how to Become Humble in ten Easy Steps and How I Made It in eight You know, it's like this, there's no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So it turns out

that humility is something you It's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God. Now, Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no, it's not a transaction. There's nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, We're going to give it to you. It's a free gift over here. Why so that Paul says, no one can boast. It's an antidote to

pride and celebrity. It's an antidote to look what I did is look what's been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility, because to say that, Okay, there is God and it's not me, well, it's a very humble position. I'm not the God of my own I'm

not the center of my own decision making universe. Well, this begins and ends in our Savior, says this pulses have the attitude the g his head, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself taking the

form of a bond servant, taking the form. In other words, it's all humility start to finish, and as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, will never even try to submit will never even begin to let go of the things that possess us. So I just want to spend one chapter in these fifteen chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you're going to every crime you're going to commit, is driven by the different

chapter. But these three prideful motives, it's the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power. Now, that pursuit of power, that's a huge category of misbehavior, and that's where celebrity fits all of us. Look, you and I both would we like more people to listen to what we're saying. Of course we would, Though we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex with knowing that that

can derail us. We don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life. So we can We'll argue, oh, because I want to reach more people with this divine message. Really, so we will increase the celebrity. Now, now here's the danger in it, and this is a different chapter, But there's a danger in this I have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior. And there are only three. There's not a fourth

motive. There isn't Now you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you can discover this on the pages of scripture, because John writes about it in one of his letters. But my point is, those are only three motives out there for stupid, and if you don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Here's

what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two because the other two become available to you on the babe of what you've achieved in the third. So you see this, and even Christian leaders right where they fall for someone. Why, well, here's why, in my opinion, is because as a congregation, or as your deacon board or your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from

the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so that they can build a bigger church. And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the door to the other two. So this is why I've struggled with this even in writing this book, because as I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this, because it turns out all of this talking about a book you've written is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence in culture.

And that's I think there's a good by the way. All three of these things have been designed by God for his glory and for our good. We just happen to distort them. So sex, money, and power or something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and

was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives? What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet They called him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus and he was as sweet as Santa Claus. And what does he offer in terms of sex, money,

or power that would be worthy of killing him? Well, here's what happens is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God instead of on the God who gave him to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship, and we all worship, everyone worships, whether you're a believer or not, there is something that you think as of utmost importance that you dare not take that from me, because that's the thing that I covet and this idolatry is what causes us. So in this particular case,

this poor guy had slipped over. They were he was recycling stuff. Every day. He would go out, spend the first half of his day picking hup a trash can, going through trash cans and picking up recyclables. Then he would take them to the recycling center and get this tough money to go and he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon. And that was his day every day, very very workmanlike. And he had slipped into an area of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his

alley. Don't be picking trash out of those two cans. And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was what pennies dollars, maybe it was enough. So he confronted this guy. He confronted the Santa Claus and said, don't be doing that anymore. At a recycling center, and Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, it turned out in that one moment he had triggered the two of the three things. Number One, he had disrespected him, So the idea of power, authority,

respect, that's in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers. Two you're taking pennies or dollars. But because I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. I've now turned them into idols. You are not try to destroy my idols. And that night he stabbed into death over virtually nothing. This is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it's not just people you work and working homicides. It's all of us. And so on that chapter.

What I try to do in every chapter is show you, hey, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a way for you to address it. And in this chapter, I just to ask fifteen questions, like what you want to know what your idols are? Because we all have them. Well, ask these fifteen questions and you probably identify them. And then once you've identified him, we can start to actually think, Okay, look, it's something that God has created it rather than the God who

created it. We simply have to transfer our worship up one levels, just from the level where we're stopped in God's creation and back to the creator. And so it's something that if you do it, you will flourish. Will you will not Number one, you'll protect yourself from stupid and number two,

you'll actually start to pursue the things contribute to a meaningful life. And you do that, you do that with thankfulness because when you say you thank God for what that is, and sincerely think about what it is that God is giving you, you look at it as not something that you've achieved, then that does move it to the higher level. And yeah, with that right now, I'm I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, but yeah,

I think you're right. I think the part of it is is that what I've discovered, and it is true of all of us, is the least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for, or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for. So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who you are, because it's really easy for me to think, well, everything I've got in my life, I achieved that. Yes, I am the

reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've ever possessed. Okay, if that's your view, well, that kind of pride is it doesn't lead any more positive. That's right, because anytime anyone challenges that that might not be the case. You're now And so it turns out that that whatever it is we've worshiped, that becomes the master, the master that you dare not question, the Master that I'm now willing to give up tons of time for resources for. I can say that, you know, I had that

early on when I was young. I had a lot of success with a lot of stuff very easily, and I did think it was what I had done. And I got to say, it was such an amazing blessing for God to take that away from me and humble me, you know, And that's exactly what it was. And I thank God for that taking that away from me the biggest blessings of my life. And you're absolutely and I think you and I as guys, we are even more prone to this because and

this is a differentis chapter two of the book. It's an identity issue for us. I mean a lot of it is is that I don't have my as a Christian. I ought to have my identity in Christ. But the way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don't typically form it that way. What we typically do instead is we form it as men in our achievements, in what it is we've achieved. So if I asked, you know, who are you David Well, You're going to say I'm the host of the show. If you said, who are you,

Jim Well, I'm a cold case detective. Okay, is that who I am? Look, I haven't been in a dayline episode in three years. Okay, I need at some point you need to say, Okay, who are you really, Jim? And this struggle of identity is so key to how we function in the world because identity is really exposed as our forms of worship, because I guarantee, as men, we typically form our worship based on what we do. You know identity when you study it in the

surveys and the research on this, it's inseparable from value and purpose. And unfortunately a lot of us form our identity based in reverse. In other words, we asked the question where am I valuable? What am I good at? What do I have purpose in? Okay, that's who I am?

Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose, because that's the problem, because there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you're good at, because it's about what you're good at. Yes, so this is and it's the biggest, one single move that leads them to contentment is to reform your identity not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive

from a holy God. That is amazing. When you're talking about that, you say, you know, how do you define yourself? You know, is it the show that you have, is it the book that you've written, or is it the career that you have. It makes me think back to the Austrian Empire when they would have their emperors die. They had these big, elaborate funerals and they would take them to this amazing crypt Actually I've been there with my family to see this thing, and it truly is amazing.

And they would have as they bring the body into the crypt they would knock, and the person inside would say who goes there? And they would give all of the big political titles, you know, he's the empire of this, and the king of that and all the rest this stuff. I don't know him. And then they would knock again and they say who is it, and he would give family relationships right that he has. I don't

know him. And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, and it's a humble sinner rons Joseph, I know him, enter, you know. And that's a kind of an interesting thing. Awesome. Yeah, that's an awesome just a word picture of what we're talking about here. Now, this is something that is and I don't know how much time we have on this, but let me just say I've got a friend, Nam Joe Martin, who's a doctor, who is a philosopher and a theologian. We

have plenty of time, by the way. So he says that men are all about the Asians. When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians. And I think it does expose how we form identity. So here, for example, he would say, when we meet another guy, we shake hands and we say, what do you do. The first ation is occupation. Okay, that's the first ation, and when we're not really asking what do you do? We are because of how before identity as men, we're

asking who are you now? As we ask that, all identity, remember, is comparative. It's not about well, how wealthy are you? It's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else. That's how you know if you're wealthy, how smart are you compared to others? Sadly, identity is for by comparing, and that's why it's so prideful, right, because we have a tendency to say, well I'm better over here, I'm better over there. So occupation is the first ation. And then what we're

measuring. We're saying, okay, well I know what that job requires in terms of education. Second aation, we're now we're saying, well he's better educated or I'm better educated. We're measuring here we are in that first conversation with another guy, and by asking what is your occupation, we're starting to measure the other asians. Second one as education. Third, well, we're

asking, well I know what that makes. If you're a surgeon, I know you're making some or if you're an accountant, what it is you're measuring compensation? That's the next station. So at some point then you're asking, too, well, how good are you at this? You could be a doctor, but just be a terrible doctor. Reputation is the next ation. What are we doing here? Well, we're measuring based on we're assigning value

based on the answers here. And if you're a guy, if you're a cop, especially, you could be somebody who's that's got nothing more than a high school education and you're working as a parrol officer and I've been making that much money, you've never tried to do anything other. But if you're six foot eight and cut like a Greek god, you're still the biggest dog in the room. Because now it's about intimidation at the last ation. So I think he's got a point. It's very unlike now. I'm sure that for

all of us. If you're not a guy, you're a woman, and you're listening to this, then there's probably some other level of it. But be honest, we do this all the time. And because identity is comparative, it really takes it rears its head, most notably in group gatherings, where you're introducing yourself because now you're getting the opportunity to compare well, there's the danger in it, and identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so

much of our trauma and struggle. This is a separate chapter of this book. I'll give you an example of this. We would do a lot of work now with officers to Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting ready to lead in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents and and now they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only men get there before

they get a divorce. They get a divorce, they say, we're not coming. I always say, just hold on, just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big. But this is the dire straits therein Okay. I discovered by three or four years ago the thing that is the biggest struggle for officers, especially if you're in injured, is

identity. It turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury, you suffered, a divorce, a loss of a job, a child, being loved, whatever you lost, whatever it was you suffered in a trauma, You'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity. You thought of yourself as married. Now you're divorced, you see yourself differently. Identity is simply how you

continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue, and every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize the kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity in something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised

in some way, damaged in some way. And of the three ways that we form identity inside out, outside in, or top side down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you're forming your identity outside in where you say it like this is how the ancients did it. You know, this thing outside of me existed before I was ever born, and I'm just going to reach out and grab that and form my identity. So it's a tribe. That's the tribe I was raised

in. It's the name of my family name, it's the profession of my family. We're all cops, so that's like who I am. Okay, that's outside in identity, and I all of us do some of that inside out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I'm going to ask you outside of me to identify me based on my innate heart's desires. Okay, that's inside out identity. Both of those are unstable because at some point your job ends, you're going to retire, then who are

you then? Or you're going to get injured and or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle, the nature of it. Well,

then get ready to suffer some trauma on the course you're now. If you've formed your identity top side down, where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging, then you're going to have lows in your life, of course, but they're going to be not quite as deep because that the day before you suffer the injury, you were a child of You were in Christ that day. The day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same God sees you the same way. Now, are you

going to struggle because you're an injury? Of course? But who you are hasn't changed. And it turns out that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even in an injury. It's not so much just the pain of the injury, it's who am I now? And that's why we have to kind of really be serious about our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. It's about human flourishing. It really is. Yeah, And of course

you know it's about integrity. And we often think about integrity is how other people perceive us or something, but it really is how you perceive yourself. Do you have that integrity and you have that integrat If you're thinking about that from top down, this is so wise. I'm really enjoying listening to you talk about this, and I think about how unique things are right now.

As you begin talking about that, you said, you know, this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes with the social media stuff. It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people. And it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't know, you know, following you and everything. I'm going to tell you sing on that. It's amazing. Yeah, that is something that we take

for granted, David. We take it for granted because yes, we are now in an age the information age has become the identity age. Why because so how do we start? If you go on our social media platforms, what's the very first thing we have a moniker, like, what is the public name? I'm going to adopt that I want you to see me as second, we're going to put to buy you. Now, we're going to

list a series of priorities, identity priorities in the bio. So all of this, then we're going to spend the next how many years on social media posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me. That's right. So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that violates the identity I've already established. And even if I'm not even thinking about

it. My posts always expose who I am, And there were times in generations prior where you didn't know who people were, and the way you know who they are now, having access to everything we think gives us gives people complete access to who we really are. And I think we know that if a republic figure and so we're careful. You know, I never post anything about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the Gospel, and I just

stay focused on that. Now that doesn't that gives people a view of me that's not actually true. It's the view that I'm crafting for them, and we have to be aware of that. But everyone does that. I mean, I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat get But it's really that it's not just that we are in some way forming and sharing our identity. It's that we are also revealing our idols, We're revealing our priorities. We're revealing this stuff that we think is so consequential, so

important that we are willing to proclaim it. That's one of the ways you can you can see what your idols are, ask yourself, like, look at your social media streams. Well, I want to know what your idols are. I can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media platform, right, that's right. Yeah, we got a full lifelog that is up there. Yeah. You know, it's such a shallow things we're talking about with social media. It's there so that you know, you can

glorify yourself. Isn't it interesting that in the last days people become such lovers of self that that we've never had those tools, that we've never had the

tools to magnifize it exactly. Yeah, And I think at some point we are going to have we're going to see that this is not beneficial to our well being and we're going to volunteerly pull back a little bit, or we're going to reach a point in our lives where we're going to burn out on it and we're going to put so you might be more active on social media

at some point in your life than you are later. But I'm also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon, right, because I use social media as much as anybody else but I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. Are we buying in This is a different chapter in the book. But are

we by nature innocent, born innocent, born virtuous? And we are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, even from government systems? Is that who we are? Or is the flip true that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough, but no matter what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it,

even religious systems. Which of those two things is true? We need to figure that out because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture, and we can put our resources in the right direction. Look, Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good

and corrupt them and do them for selfish. You can even behave uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons. Yea, even our efforts to do something godly are entirely depraved and selfish, is what his claim is. This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism, Like people are trying to figure out, how could it be that someone who could be a Pulitzer prize winner can also kill his spouse or her spouse. How could

that be? How could it be that there's somebody who, for the last thirty years has been an exemplar in our community, the deacon at the church, the doctor who delivered my babies, Yet thirty years ago he killed his wife. How could that be? There's no way he could be that duplicit? Is there? This enigma of man has to be sorted out. Now, what I see in the studies is that, yes, we do have good examples of the altruism of humans. Humans are capable of great altruism.

They are until it doesn't serve them personally. So in other words, I'm usually the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight. Then we start hoarding toilet paper. Well why are we doing that? Because we are at our base nature self serving, and even when we are doing good for others. It serves us in some way. That's why we're doing

it. We want to be seen a certain way. Very seldom to see people who you know do good things, who aren't proclaiming to you that they do good things. That's how you know they're doing good things. Well, that's because that proclamation is what they're really after. Yeah, okay, that's the truth. If that's the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition. Number One, it causes me to know that I am not trustworthy, that I am no different. Number One, It's

leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview once I had this realization. I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I knew that we're all the same person. And but for the grace of God, my buttons haven't been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now, look, this is not to try to elevate people who do bad behavior. I'm a justice guy, so we're going to take care of this. But

I recognize that I am just like him. We are all just like him. When you watch an episode of Dateline. I'm hoping you're not sitting there and going, yeah, what an idiot. I hope if you watch it with a certain amount of introspection and you're thinking, oh, that could easily have been me, because that is where humility begins. It begins when you realize the proper role. By the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, if you know that's really true, well that also changes the

way you establish systems. This is why our country was built in a way that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government. Why is that there because the people who formed it new you can't trust people, you can't trust humans. We are by nature fallen if we don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have a community. Basically, this is why the Christian worldview has not lived in

isolation, because this is why marriages. So this is another chapter of the book why marriage is so important. Because I've close enough to another human that i have given her permission to tell me where I'm wrong. I've given her

permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants from me. And if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now, and you don't have true friends, and you don't have the kind of relationship that will urge you towards something better. So it turns out that those are other

things that sociologists have discovered. It was a chapter in here about true friendship or why because I've worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they thought was their true friend. M Well, so what is the nature of

quality relationships? What we need to kind of dig into that, because it turns out that there are some relationships that if you're listening, that you're holding right now, that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well being, and that might at some point, by the way, likely if I'm the first time I'm going to do, if I'm working your homicide, is I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that is

somebody you knew really well who kills you. And in the end we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better? You know, so I think a lot of this is important for us as Christians to say, oh, yeah, by the way, the scripture has an antidote for that. This Christian's got great guidance for that. We just haven't been paying attention in

this generation. It seems. Yeah, you have a statement. Many crime stories are centered around poor relationships, you know, not having a relationship or having a relationship that's going to I guess goed you into that right some way. Yeah, I mean this is why. So if you're looking at what causes and we've got enough time, I think you're to cover this that if you look at what is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you

to flourish. It turns out that studies show this one of the longest studies ever done on human happiness, looks like sixty year study that was done, and it really revealed that is your relationships there at the key the core of what causes you to feel content, to be happy, to have satisfied life, satisfying life. But it's not just any kind of relationship. Turns out, it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people

on social media. So there's three things. Three things that lead to the quality of flourishing in your relationships. Here they are, First, you need deep committed relationships with people you've given permission to be like a brother to say, hey, you know what did your author rails here? And that has to be with a small number of people. You can't have those kinds of deep committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount

of time. So if you're somebody who says, oh, I know lots of people, I got lots of friends, well they're probably not. Then these kinds of friends, you need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with third piece, virtuous people. Now here's the reason why. I've met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous, and they're basically they're part of their crime family. And so you can have

deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. Now here's the tricky question is what do we call virtuous? Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters, is that what is virtuous? What they say is because they would say, hey, if you offend us we're going to come over there and kill you. That's just the code. You knew better before you did that. You should have known that was coming because

you know that's what you're going to get. And so who just gets to decide what is righteous, right or wrong virtuous? Who gets to decide that? Is it a group of people or is it a single individual, or

is there something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities. So it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent, unchanging, overarching virtue giver, the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in because if we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for all kinds of stupid. And we're already seeing this because what's virtuous to even politically, what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we're arguing

that is if there's no transcendent, overarching virtue. So this is one of those areas your relationships that does benefit from a worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There's a couple of places where that happens in this book, but this is one that's very important because we can say you tell your kids all the time, but don't be handles. There's a bad people who gets to this out they're bad. This is now suddenly caught. Is going to

have to cause us to think about how we ground good and bad? How do we ground a righteousness? And if you're going to ground it in just the opinion of people, well that's every case. I work at some point you have to be wiser than that. And that's why I think it's important for us to adopt the one worldview, grounded and humility that provides you with

an objective, transcendent source for virtue that is such great wisdom. I'm really looking forward reading this book, and of course it's just come out, but it is available now, right, Yes, it's available now. And I appreciate you can learn more at the Truth than truecrime dot com. The Truth intruecrime dot com. And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this should

not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something. What we do at that website, you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that comes with the purchase. We simply wanted to try to level that a little bit right so that you don't feel like this is about spending money on a book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book, and that's the challenge, of course. Excellent, excellent book. Again, it is the Truth in True Crime that's in not end the Truth in Truecrime

dot Com. And just before you go, I know you got to go. This message is from Guard Goldsmith and Rock Finney says thank you both. Cold Case Christianity is excellent, and in the conversation today, I'm reminded that the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must beware of commoditizing oneself. Difficult to promote one's work, even freedom or biblical work without that promotion becoming self promoting rather than

praising God. That's absolutely so good, so good. Yeah, great observation. He's written me before. He loved Cold Case Christianity, which you got the first time I interviewed you. But I'm really looking forward to the Truth and True Crime. And again there's a website, the Truth and Truecrime dot Com. Thank you much, thank you so much for joining us, Sarah. Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking forward to reading it myself. Thank you, Well, I'm indebted to you. Thanks

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