Now let's bring in our guest. He is none other than Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos, and he is a very decent man for coming in the way he has. Eric, Welcome and happy New Year. I'm so glad that I get to see you. And I apologized for messing up on the link earlier and even night. It's okay. At least we were able to fix it between ourselves, unlike that Dodge Dark that I had to deal with last week. Tell people what you experienced. This is beautiful. Oh,
it was incredible. Okay, So you know the test car, the car that I was test driving for purposes of reviewing last week, was a brand new twenty twenty four Dodge Dart. First couple of days went fine. The third day I went out to drive it and it wouldn't start. You pushed the star's button and the headlights flashed, and so my immediate instinctual response was, Okay, probably has a dead and or weak battery. So I'll go to my toolbox. I get out the old multimeter and I checked the battery
and sure enough, it's down to nine volts for whatever reason. Now it's a brand new car, you think it has a brand new battery. Why is the battery low? But in any event, the battery is low. And typically with modern computer controlled cars, if the computer doesn't sense twelve volts at the battery, sometimes it won't even try to start because the fuel injection won't work without full voltage. So at any rate, I did what you know a few years ago would have been the reasonable thing to do, which
is to charge up the battery. So I hooked it up to my trickle charger, and in the process I disconnected And this is going to become important. I disconnected the negative cable. Okay, Then when I charged up the battery, it was showing twelve volts. I put the negative cable back on the battery and the car went persserk lights flashing, alarms clanging, all the lights on the interior dashboard flashing on and off. Apparently it has some kind
of cataleptic response to any interruption of its voltage. Now, initially I thought, okay, I just need to know the secret process. Sometimes you have like on the key you can push the lock, unlock the panic button in a certain sequence to get the alarm to shut off. I tied that to no avail. It would not work, could not find any procedure in the
owner's manual or anywhere else. So I called up the press Fleet company, which then in turn called up Dodge Engineering, you know, to try to figure out what was wrong with the This is directly in communication with the manufacturer. And long story short that once the vehicle has this interruption of current, you lose. You can't fix it. You have to have it dragged to the dealer to get them to I guess, reboot the computer. And you
have to have specialized equipment in order to do that. So word to the wise, you know, do not disconnect the battery of a modern computer controlled car unless you're ready for some pretty serious for your percussions. And then I found out something even more interesting. And I did not know this. You know, you have to keep up with things, and even I sometimes don't keep up with things. So why did the battery have less than twelve volts
current to begin new car? New battery? Well, it turns out that the culprit was probably the second battery. Uh huh. This is not an electric car, but nonetheless it had two batteries. The main twelve volt starter battery that we're all familiar with that starts the engine when you push the button or turn the key. But in addition to that, these new cars that have automated stop start technology as they market it, the acronym being s ASS
have a secondary battery that is designed to operate with that system. Because of those you know, those repeated stop start cycles. You know that that's hard on a battery, right. The understanding of the thing is that you know if that is going to create a power draw. So if that draws enough power from the battery and the battery hasn't had enough time to recharge from driving, you might see this reduction in the battery the nin starter batteries voltage and
then could put the car doesn't work. And then when that happens, if you do something like pull the take the cables off the battery, then you have to have a car dragged to a dealer to get it fixed. That's progress for you. Huh oh man, I have to. I want to show people the website, uh, because I love this. We're speaking with Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos. Folks, It's Eric Peters Autos dot com. I'm Gardner Goldsmith Filion for David Knight and Eric Peters is with us,
and you had it had to be dragged. When my computer crashes, I called dose techies and you talk. This is an update, a final report about the issue experience with a new car twenty twenty four Dodge Hornet. I was test driving. Just a dead battery, just ridiculous, unbelievable, And as you say, the car had to be flatbedded to the dealer to deal with it. And that's one of the things when I read your articles. You have this sly sense of humor about all the absurdities that you see in
these designs. Eric, you have talked before about the scene and the unseen and economics. Well here's a really good example of that. Now, what does the benefit to you and I are anybody who buys one of these cars? Does the car start any better with all of this technology? I mean I can get into my twenty two year old truck, you know, and
I turned the key and the engine starts. You know, it doesn't start any in any way that's inferior to the way the new car starts, And in many ways it's superior because if it doesn't start, I can disconnect your battery. I can put a new battery in and the car will start. I don't have to call a tow truck or roadside assistance to have the thing
drag to a dealership. To have something that's profoundly simple, you know, like changing a battery handled all a dealership at one hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, I agree with you. And you know it's interesting, Eric, you talk about complex integration versus simple integration. And in many in many cases, when you get complex integration, sometimes you get better efficiency that sort of
thing. But to repair something, you want simple integration. You want to be able to take the pieces out, replace the pieces, get pieces without having to wait a month to get a piece in, and not have it be done through algorithms, every part of which has its own piece, because there's no way you could do enough research to really even understand how to make it work. And that's where they're going all the time. And there's another aspect to this too, you know, it's the question big which is,
well, why what? What is the reason for all of this? And the only reason for it, again is the unseen hand of government, of the regulatory apparat The only reason that almost all new cars have that ass system I mentioned earlier, The automated stop start. I don't know whether you've driven a late model car, but what happens you come to a traffic light. Let's say the light's are read, the engine shuts off automatically, you know, and then when you put your foot take your foot off of the brake
and put your foot on the gas pedal, then the engine restarts. So in the course of your morning commute, the engine might stop start a dozen times or more, okay, and nobody wants that. Who wants to have that? Chuk? You know, when the and as a slight delay, you know, in between light turns green and instead of just you know, going, you have to wait that little moment for the engine to start before the car can go. Nobody wants this. Nobody in the market asked for
this. So why do we have it? Why is it not only in cars, but it's standard in cars. It's not like it's an option. Oh, I think that's a great idea. I think I'll check that box because I want a car to do that. The only reason it's the new cars is because of the pressure that is being brought to bear on the manufacturers of vehicles to reduce carbon dioxide emissions. As they market that as they prop the anti because you know, because when the engine is not running, you
know, you shut the car off at a traffic light. It's not about saving gas. This gas savings is trivial, but the idea is that if the engine shuts off at a traffic light, then you know, it's at that moment a zero emissions in terms of carbon dioxide vehicle. So that's one of the effects of the regulatory apparat that you and I get to feel and
pay for. Wow, you know, Eric, I got the opportunity to tell people a little bit about something that Al Gore is involved with and he is, he's part of and in fact he's connected with Google on this thing called Trace that he puts seed money into this. Google puts seed money into this. It is an online system to collect data that now is there's a corporation and a number of corporations, but there's one I wrote about this from
our CTV. There's one that has been using basically spyplanes and they want to get up with the EPA's help up in the satellites to use camera technology and infrared to be able to detect emissions coming from virtually anything and then report it to the EPA, and then the EPA without any trial, without any jurisprudence in any way whatsoever or due process. We'll just find people for the emissions. And they keep using this canard of the so called climate, the carbon
so called emissions. And as you said, they don't just talk about carbon dioxide. They try to make it sound like soot, like oh, it's carbon that's going out there, like this is going to destroy the La Basin which they cleaned up a long time ago. You know, it's just ridiculous to see this. And they keep putting these electronic devices in the cars that will measure our output, that will report back. And this is the way that they're going. And I drew this up on the screen. People could
see me drawing this up. If you could tell us, could you tell us a little bit about a preview of things to come? This article over here, and I want to show this on the website, a preview of things to come at Eric petersautos dot com. Yeah, that's not so much with regard to emissions as they put it. This has to do with behavior. It has to do with the pending Come twenty twenty six federal requirement that cars have technol embedded in them to deal with impaired driving, you know,
and again it's this sleight of hand, it's this verbiage. In fact, if you dig into it, it's not that they're going after it's so called drunk drivers. And never mind whether you've actually been convicted of drunk driving. They're just going to say that everybody's presumed to be a drunk driver. In fact, it's about measuring what they call driver performance. That's the actual terminology
that's used. So what does that mean, Well, it means that any performance that falls outside of the parameters that they consider to be acceptable, so driving faster than the speed limits, so you know, whether you're looking at the thing that they want you to look at. I was test driving another
car that has elements of this technology. That's something people ought to know is that the cars that are already in production and that have been in production for the past several years already have some of the bits and pieces of this technology embedded in them. For example, this thing called a browsy driver monitor.
Essentially, the car is looking at your eyes and if it thinks that you're not looking straight ahead at all times, this box pops up in the gauge cluster that says, you know, driver in attention, detected, or pay more attention, or stop for a coffee break or something like that. Now, I ride motorcycles, and one of the reasons that I'm still alive in talking to you right now is that I maintain awareness of what's going on around
me, not just tumnel vision of what's in front of me. So I'll glance still left, and I'll glance to the right, and I'll look in my review mirror or you know, look, I'm just trying to keep aware of what's around you, right right. That's kept me from wrecking a car too. But yet when I drive these cars, I get this constant cereal pop up about how I'm drowsy and distracted because my eyes are not looking tumbel
visions straight ahead. Now. As annoying as that is, what's going to happen come twenty twenty six and going forward is that, in addition to annoying you, it's going to punish you. And that punishment will probably come in one of two forms. Either of the car itself will somehow deactivate, or maybe it will go into gimp mode and you'll be limping along the side of the road at five miles an hour or more. Probably because the car is
connected and it's connected to the government, the insurance mafia. You will get hit with a fine or a done every time you do something that falls outside of the parameters of what they say is safe driving. And we've seen previously this with the insurance companies that will say that we'll give you a just kind of if you plug this little jungle into your obed port in the car.
You know, and what they're doing is every single time that you change lanes too abruptly, you accelerate to aggressively, things of that nature, you find that your insurance premium has gone up. That's the model. That's what they're going to do. It doesn't matter that you don't wreck, that you never have an accident, that you have a perfect driving record. I've got a
thirty year record of not having wrecked a car. As you know, they'll say, they'll say, or your habits show that you're unsafe and so we
have to raise your rates accordingly. You know, it reminds me of in a way, it reminds me of the taken to assert extremes Brazil and you know by Terry gillian what a brilliant, brilliant film, just you know how they controlled the heating systems and it shows the ninja black market heating AAV repair man coming in in the middle of the night to repair the guy's heating system
because it won't stop. And it's all run by some interior organization. And I worked at the New Hampshire Community College system for a while and in the springtime, you know, you're coming from the colder days, but you can get some warmer days, and so you want to be able to definitely regulate that temperature because it's going to get too hot for the students. They're going to get tired. And it was just incredibly hot. And I asked someone
else, I said, where's the thermostat? Why can't we do something? And they said, oh, no, the temperature for this building. I said yeah. They said that's controlled from the central building in the capital of the state and conquered New Hampshire, thirty five miles away. And I was like, what this, Yeah, we can't control the temperature in this building. I was like, that is Terry Gilliamville. That's insane. And to bring it back home when you have a person a person sort of thing.
My dad and I were driving along. My dad was driving once. Eric, you remind me of a little little anecdote from from my childhood and my dad. You know, we're on these really bad roads and he would dodge potholes to save the undercarriage of the Toyota. You know, for a while we had a renault at the torsion bar suspension that was very interesting. And so, you know, he would dodge the potholes, make it sort of a game. He gets pulled over and then he says, uh, sir,
I noticed you were driving erratically. And he says, he goes, have you been drinking? And I'm I'm with the guy I was like. My dad says, no, you know, I was just dodging the potholes. And then the police officer, to his credit, said oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry about that. Yeah, the roads are terrible. I'm really sorry about that, and then he went on his way. You've got to system now that is building up all these errors within programming and
systems permanently attached to the cars. You can't get rid of these things. Yes, it's all you know, the story that you just told very similar. In my area, the roads are often terrible. I live in a rural area, so it's common for people to straddle the center line because that way, you know, you don't hit these bumps all the time and destroy the undercarriage of your car and your suspension, your tires. But the technology is one size fits all, you know, and it's the size of the
government says that you'll fit into period, you know. And it's part of this effort to manage and control and micro control absolutely everything that we do. I was listening to a new story of the day that bears on this. It had something to do with North Korea, and the North Korean government has issued its plan, you know, for the next year apparently, and that's what we're talking about. There's always a central plan, controlled by central planners.
You and I apparently are unfit to plan our own affairs. Everybody, you know, mass has to be has to be sort of compressed together and then sluiced and directed in a path that is decided by the central planners. And nobody seems to ever question, well, who are these people? I mean, how is it that these people somehow have acquired the power and in some sense you know, the moral acquiescence of people that Okay, yeah,
sure, you know. I'm here just to do what you tell me to do, and I'm waiting tell me what to do, tell me how to behave. It's amazing. I'm so glad you brought up the Seinfeld thing. That was one of the one of the things I picked up from Gilbert Godfried because he used to do a terrific Seinfeld impression and he was the first person I ever I ever heard do these Seinfeld Who are these people? You know?
It's the classic Seinfeld Seinfeld line. And Eric, I want to mention kudos to you also, by the way, for putting the picture of the Kawisaki over there. You mentioned you ride bikes, and when I was a kid, it was hondas and kawisaki motorbikes, you know, out there in the dirt and each other around and stuff, and my friends had those things. I was always on the back dragging my sneakers, putting up dust, dust and stuff so the guys behind us couldn't see. I was like,
we're getting chased by the cops. Come on, you know. We would have races and stuff and it was a lot of fun. And also on this subject, you know, you talk about the drowsy driver thing and stuff you mentioned here. Eric over at Eric peters ATTO's Everybody and follow him at Libertarian car G Libertarian car g on Twitter slash x. You mentioned here you
say about two thirds of the way down. You say, for instance, almost all cars sold in twenty twenty three and twenty four have a system that can tell whether you have used a turn signal before making a lane change. That will proceed to correct your attempt to change lanes if you haven't signal first, by electronically trying to steer the car back into the lane you're trying to leave for the one adjacent. And I think you and David had touched on
this. It is just scary to think about. And then with these speed controller things that they're going to put on various trucks that they want to have, that's going to be even more dangerous because trucks are going to be side by side with each other and they're not They're going to have a really hard time passing each other. There's two aspects to this that I think are interesting.
The first one is just the mindlessness of it. Instead of being mindful you know, some people think, well, you should signal every time you turn, but that is mindless. I think it's far more. I think it's more beneficial in sound to be aware of your driving environment. If there is a car you know, you're driving forward, there's a car up ahead or adjacent to you, of course it makes sense to signal your intentions.
But it makes no sense at all to signal your intentions if you're clearly the only car on the road and you're out in the middle of nowhere, just because you're supposed to Pavlovian style, like a dog, be trained to do this, this signaling, and that somehow, you know, alleviates you the responsibility of being aware of your driving environment. There's that aspect of it, and there's another aspect of it, and it's it goes to these unanticipated consequences
that these central planners always neglect to plan for. It's all well and good to turn your signal when you have a planned a lane change, you want a plan to move into the next line. What if a kid runs out in front of your car, an unplanned event, you know, and you move the steering wheel to get out of this, to not hit the kid, but now the car is trying to fight you to get back in the lane that you're trying to steer out of. And I'm amazed that there hasn't
been more mayhem caused by this. You know, I'm a man and I've got decent hand strength, but I could just see an older person, let's say, or a woman with small hands, you know, holding that steering wheel and all of a sudden, steering wheel jerks, and if you've experienced it, that's what it feels like. The steering wheel will jerk in the
opposite direction and it can be really unnerving and unsettling. And it's exactly the sort of thing that they used to teach kids not to do in Drivers D they would tell, you know, if a wheel drops off, like if you're driving down the road and the right side wheel drops off the road and you know, the car will feel like it's going to go off road. The last thing you want to do is jerk the wheel hard. You want to try to maintain the car's directional stability and ease back into the road.
Well, this this countermands all of that, and it's being done by electronics and programming. It's unbelievable. You know, Eric, you bring up so many good points and I don't know how you know. I asked you once before. You write so much and they're always fascinating, fascinating topics. And
how often do you shoot video? Do you think each week? Because now you're providing video and people can find you on Rumble as well, tell people how they can find you on Rumble, and you often embed these videos inside your articles, right, you know, I'm embarrassedudent. I don't really know what my handle is. I think it might be ethyologist on rumbled. But if you go to most of my articles, there'll be a video in it,
and you can you can find it that way. But I try to do a video of every new car that I test drive, and I often do monologues while I'm driving a car about things that seem to me to be important to talk about. Well, how about what we hit on this one? Eric, this is another good one. Automotive dissonance. And you have the picture of the woman with the Pinto. Keep off my rear. I'm explosive, great Michigan license plate car probably built in Michigan, the Pinto.
The Pinto became, of course anonymous with rear rear engine explosion, our rear rear gas tank explosion, and can you give people some information about that and why it comes to mind when you're thinking about evs nowadays. Sure, Well, there was a big hulla baloo back in the seventies. Ford made the Pinto, which was an economy car, and they made millions of these things. Well, the initial run of them had a poorly designed gas tank filler
neck. The fillert the filler on the car was mounted on the side of the car and then it went to the gas tank, which was you know, inside behind the backseat area underneath the car. Anyway, if the car was hit very hard in the rear, the impact could hear the filler neck away from the tank and that could cause gas to spill out, and if there was a spark resulting from say metal to metal contact, that could trigger
a fire. And there was a recall when there was a big hullabaloo about that, even though relatively speaking, millions of Pintos a handful of fires, and it wasn't an inherent defect. It was just a not particularly good design which was corrected and once it was corrected, it was no longer a problem. So we've got that on the one hand, and then we juxtapose that with these evs that can catch fire just sitting still, not being hit,
parked outside, parked in your garage, on a container ship. And that's because there is an inherent built in problem with lithium ion batteries that can't be fixed. They have an inherent built in tendency to automatically spontaneously combust. The difference with the Pinto was you had to have a spark in addition to the gas leaking in order for there to be a fire, and you had to have an outside physical force, such as an impact, in order to trigger
that cascading chain of events. So it was rather improbable that you were going to be burned to death in a penzil very very slight chance of that if I am, I mistaken Eric. And because I was small when they did these things, I think they had some of this on NBC News. Didn't they have to put flares into the back of was it the Pinto or was
it a different car to actually making the bus it on camera? They tried to do something that there was something called GM pickups I believe, with what was called the side saddle fuel tank was mounted in a particular part of the frame that where it was vulnerable to impact. The problem was they were trying to create this gore story and they would keep hitting the thing and it wouldn't blow up, so they actually had to put a flare there to cause the
fire. And that's the point. Gasoline is combustible, but it's actually unlikely to burn if you can just spill it and pour it on the ground. Every one of us has done that. When you go to a gas station, you fill your car up, and sometimes when you pull the filler out, there's some gas that drifts. It almost never catches fire because you have to have a spark, so you almost have to be deliberately stupid in order for there to be a gas fire. With these evs. On other hand,
you can be the most responsible person in the world. You drive your EV home and you park it in your driveway or in your garage, and it just spontaneously catches fire and you linked to a story from Eric Peters Auto's dot com everybody you link to a story from Automotive News from April twenty eighth, Kurt nagel Wright's main headline vehicle that caught fire at Chrysler Tech Center was EV prototype and then the subhead EV related fires have erupted at two of the
Detroit three automakers in recent weeks. GM's Factory zero reported a fire last week. And this is one of the things that, in addition to the weight factor, inside public garages now or even private garages, if they don't handle these things properly, I'm very worried about parking even in any incl closed area or nearby outside any eb because they could just start up and just burst into
flames. Yeah, the these aren't just prototypes either, a couple of because it was a month, maybe two, three months, I lose track of time. Uh, some forward lightnings that had been held at a storage lot after they left the assembly line. In other words, these were finished vehicles. These were ready to be shipped out to dealers. There was a fire there. You know, this is not an uncommon occurrence, and it will
become a more common occurrence because of compounding factors. You know, an electric vehicle doesn't just catch fire potentially when it's sitting still, if it's struck. You know, if the battery case is damaged and damages the battery, that can cause a fire. If and I went to this in my article, if it gets wet a particularly with salt water, you know, as in the aftermath of a flood, as in Florida, the number of because the salt water gets into the there's a vent on top of the battery. Ye
the water gets into that vent. That salt water then causes the thermal runaway to s circuit and the thing goes up in smoke, you know. And we haven't even gotten into the effect of time and mileage and use you know, over time. This is a car. It's not something actually that sits at a desk at home, you know, like a laptop or a computer. This is a car that is subjected to extremes of heat and cold. It hits potholes, you know, and it wears out over time. So
we can expect to see even more of these cars. And to the point of the article, it's just it's interesting because it points out the motives of the government and it's feigned concern for our safety. You know, this is a demonstrable inherent risk that cannot be corrected, at least not without changing fundamentally the type of battery chemistry that's used in electric vehicles. It cannot be dealt
with it. It is going to inhere in the vehicle, and it's a risk that the government is imposing on you by force, Whereas in the case of this Pinto, you know, where there's a very slight risk potentially if a series of events happened that the car might catch fire, if you got hit behind from behind it, you know, by somebody driving very fast. There was a huge you and cry and we must recall all these Pintos. You know, there was a massive class action lawsuit. But in this case,
apparently, don't worry about it. It's fine, everything's good. I love your line here. But no Pinto ever caught fire while parked, right, and yeah, you nail it, Eric. And you know, the thing that really gets me is that so many journalists are willing to cover up this stuff. Like we saw that report from Automotive News and they tried to stress that they were there were prototypes. Well this is not necessarily the case. As you say, this is happening all over the place. And that
point that you bring up is the wear and tear. We're just as you say, we're just talking about potholes. Eventually, they are going to be cracks that appear, and condensation is going to get inside those systems, and once that condensation gets in there, those batteries are gone and the fires, the fire potential just skyrockets. As you said, you know, with the salt water they came into Florida during some of the herd canes into Georgia as
well. Just terrible, terrible stuff that people saw. They can't put these fires out. They it's just it's insane. It's absolutely we're underwater. I think I've got some videos in that article where you can see, I mean literally the car like somebody was trying to back up their boat I guess at a at a boat ramp and lost control of the car goes in the water. I think it was a Tesla Model Wide along with the gull wings.
Anyway, it is completely submerged and it's still on fire. Unbelievable. Here's let's uh, let's do this here and we'll see there might be an ad that pops up. This is one of many videos that is embedded in this piece at Eric Peters autos dot com. And Eric, thanks again, I really appreciate it. You're you're a trooper and uh, you know seeing that email that doesn't have the link in it and saying how am I going to
get on the show. Well, maybe it's like magic. We'll have the pixie dust just like the Uh, well, we'll use carbon and that will do it. Right. But let's yeah, let's show this one. There might be an ad but we'll see. Take a look at this right here. This is why state and locals are warning you not to drive electric vehicles impacted by storm surge and to park it away from your home. And this is what's left of an electric car that ignited as is being towed in Panela's
park today. Fire crew said it was parked in a lot that was flooded during Hurricane Italia. Ten Tampa Bay Anchor Josha Doors verifies what makes evs and saltwater such a dangerous combination. These electric vehicles when they get saltwater intrusion, can catch on fire and those are very difficult fires to put out. That was Governor Desantras's warning just days ago ahead of Hurricane Adalia, and several local agencies have issued similar warnings here like this one. So let's verify what makes
electric vehicles so vulnerable to not just flood water, but salt water. Here are our sources, including FEMA, the US Fire Administration, and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. According to NITZA, residual salt within an EV's lithium ion battery or battery components can form conductive bridges that can lead to short circuit and self heating of the battery, causing a fire. But when a damaged
lithium ion battery can ignite, that varies widely. After Hurricane Eden last year, there were at least a dozen reports of evs that had been submerged or partially submerged in saltwater, igniting weeks after the fact. And considering Florida now has these second most registered evs in the country, it is becoming a growing
concern for first responders because these fires they also burn a lot hotter. Traditional car fires burn around fifteen hundred degrees, where an electric vehicle battery fire can burn close to five thousand degrees. With your verify, I'm Josh said, or all right, Josh, that's really good information there. If you see something you'd like as to verify, you can email your questions to us Verify. How about they verify the fact that most everybody should know that ions are
involved with the conduction of electricscy It's like, oh salt, duh. They need somebody to you know, I should I shouldn't say that. You know. Maybe some people are young people just learning about the conductivity of salt water, but I mean plase salt ions. There you go. There's another aspect of this too, and it's another one of these evy catch twenty two's. I harp on this a lot because I think it's important to harp on it. In order to make an ev practical at all, you have to use
these so called fast chargers. You know, otherwise you're literally going to spend all day waiting for the thing to recover any kind of a charge. Well, the fast charger increases the fire rist because you're talking about conduiting an enormous amount of voltage into this battery, and that creates heat in the process, and that's why these things often catch fire while they are hooked up to these
fast chargers. And then there's another issue. In order to limit or mitigate the potential fire damage, you can only charge one of these things up to eighty percent of its capacity at a fast charger, and they never tell you that. They never explain that. They always talk about the fast Oh you can be on your way in thirty minutes. Well yeah maybe, but you'll be twenty percent shy of a full tank. So I mean, you know, it's like, so you already start out with not much range in one
of these things. Now you get twenty percent less range, and so now you're gonna have to fast charge again and more regularly. You see how the cycle works. Yeah, yeah, the risk of fire. And also you increase the you decrease the life of the battery by subjecting it to constant heavy discharging and then fast charging cycles. And that's not my opinion. You can actually read that, in fact, in my latest article from a Tesla. It's right there on the screen. Car tells you, you know, avoid
depleting the battery excessively and avoid subjecting it to repeated fast charging sessions. Man, this is just incredible. And you've got this. I love this January first, what a way to start the year. Check it out. Would you buy this car? And you have the clip there thirty two percent of range lost in seven years? You say. A man buys a Tesla and says, we never get what was promised, we get way less. He refers to the range advertised by the manufacturer of his battery powered device, a
twenty seventeen Model X. Tesla's advertising has proved seriously false. He did not get what he paid for. In other words, Yet the man is not angry that he has arguably been what's the appropriate phrase ripped off by Tesla? How would you describe it? If the vehicle you bought was advertised as being capable of taking you forty miles on a gallon of gas and it only went thirty two miles, or about twenty percent less than advertised. How dare you
deal with math? This is the typical disparity in advertising versus actual range when it comes to battery powered vehicles. So let's talk about this Hunt class action suit. Eric. Yeah, that goes back a few years ago and Hunday had some advertising where it touted that its vehicles I think it was its entire lineup got better than forty miles per gallon, And there was some quibbling in
there. It wasn't maybe perhaps as accurate because they were referring to the highway rather than the city number, and they were I guess the implication was that they averaged forty miles an hour, when in fact they really didn't. They averaged I don't know, thirty two something like that. Anyway, it was. It was a difference that was far less significant than the disparity in the
EV between the touted range and the actual range that you get. And there was there was a recall and a massive lawsuit directed against Hundai because people were angry. Understandably, you know, you buy the vehicle and it says it can do this, and the government affirms that it can do this, and then you buy it and you find out, well, no, it can't. And maybe part of the reason you bought it was because you expected it
to do what they said it was going to do and it didn't. But somehow evs get it pass it. You know, everybody concedes this point. Now, you know that the EV, even under the ideal circumstances, typically
will get ten to twenty percent less range than what is indicated. And if the conditions are anything less than optimal, if it's very cold out, if it's very hot out, and you know you're using accessories and that the thermal management system is having to try to keep the battery warm or try to prevent
it from getting too hot. And if you drive any faster than a crawl, basically you know, gimp it along, you know, like you have an eggshell egg the accelerator pedal, your range will be much less than that. And somehow there isn't a class action lawsuit. Somehow it's apologized for and rationalized. This whole article. I mean, it took me a few hours to even be able to prepare to write for it, because I was just
so brain numbed by this guy. This guy did a video in which he talked about the fact that his vehicle that he bought, his twenty seventeen Tesla, that he bought after seven years, it now gets thirty two percent less range than it did when it was new, and he estimates at its value, he paid one hundred thousand dollars for this thing and now he estimates it's
worth about twenty five thousand dollars. And you know, you'd think he would be like, you know, I really feel stupid having bought this vehicle. I would never buy another vehicle like this. Instead, he goes on and on about how wonderful it is and how he's ready to buy another one, and it reminds the people they continue to catch COVID, but they keep getting their boosters. Yes, exactly, exactly. My brain hurts thinking about this
mindset. You just got punched in the face. Why are you continuing to put your face in front of the fists punch back? For God's sake, It's just insane. The whole thing. At least rhetorically address the problems, address reality. It's a new year. Let's start off with a new year's resolution. Don't be a dupe? How about that. I've been trying to plumb this, and I think like, in the case of this individual,
clearly he's very affluent. If you look at some of his other videos, he talks about selling one of his houses, and if you look at the house, the house looks like it's got to be at least a couple million dollars. And he seems like he's not a bad guy. From what I can tell, he seems like he's a nice enough guy. But I think this this let them eat cake aspect of people who are very, very affluent.
You know, if you're somebody who lives in a million dollar house, you can afford a toy like one hundred thousand dollars electric car, right, you know, he probably has multiple cars. He probably has other cars that aren't electric. And maybe for them it just doesn't register, you know, like they live in this entirely different economic realm and world than we do, and for them, you know, maybe this is Oh, it's just fun.
It's great, you know, just like having my This guy's got a you know, some kind of like Olympic style swimming pool in his backyard too. Doesn't everybody have one of those? Oh man, it's just unbelievable. It's absolutely crazy. Boy. Eric, Look, as we as we start off the new year, I want to welcome people to go to Eric peters Otto's dot com and I want to just ask you a little bit more on
the abstract sort of thing. You know, as I was closing off that segment about Israel Gaza, you know, very very brutal information, and of course we're all implicated in this, I brought up some philosophy, you know, like I was in the lecture hall and I was, you know, hanging out with the students. Okay, let one of the students get up there, you know, do their comments, and we'll take some comments from
the rock Finn Chat that sort of thing. And I talked about how John Locke used to, you know, he made up his so called natural rights argument, which really was just a beard to hide what he really was doing, which was, I'm going to force the state and the majority rule or whatever, the constitutional representative democracy sort of thing, whatever it is, the state is going to impose its will on you. It's not real self governance,
which is you governing yourself and coming up with your own arrangements. You will be excluded if you're a jerk. You'll be sued in private adjudication systems that sort of thing if you're a jerk, and no one will want to deal with you, just like the British common law system was it was operated. But this idea that Locke had when he said, man in the state of nature is just can't trust each other, and men will be in perpetual states of war, and when a man initiates a state of war against you,
you have the right to defend yourself, that sort of thing. And so he said states are instituted among men, as Jefferson paraphrased as if all the men agree, So now the state is legitimate. For the guy who didn't like Hey, I don't want to be part of your club. No, sorry, we have welcomed you into our club. Now pay your dues. I don't want this. We're protecting you. No, you're forcing me to pay for something I don't want. What if I don't want it?
In this much, you know this sort of thing. Notice language, They used that term instituted, as if it's just sort of a happenstance. Yes, it's imposed, it is. Yes, yes, again the lowery use of language rather than using the They use the passive voice rather than the active voice, which is, governments are imposed on people. That is the only way a government exists is by imposing on someone. And so what I think is interesting is, as I mentioned earlier, philosophically, logically, in any
word, in any sort of way that someone can look at it. The government itself, which is purported to stop this state of war of man against man, which might not exist if we're actually able to leave each other alone. And if someone does do that, then we can create our own private systems of protection to say, Okay, I'm going to work with this group of people voluntarily to protect ourselves. The state says, no, you can't do that, yourself all the way you want to do it, because we're
going to extract a certain portion of your money to give you protection. So really the state is the state of war, and it is perpetual war against you. And if you don't like it, just try not paying for it. Sometime you'll find out what the war is. And this goes towards the roads. This goes towards all the ways they keep metastasizing this cancer of the state making decisions for us about the products we're going to buy, whether their
appliances or cars or anything. And I have an article from MRCTV that's coming out today about the new mountain of announcements of appliance regulations that the Department of Energy. Jennifer Grand Holmes Gang, which of course she made a bunch of money off of that company, Protera, when they gave her stock options. They brought her back, they brought her onto the board. After she was governor of Michigan, she got about six million dollars to go to Protera that
was given a GM from the Feds during the Obama administration. That went to Protera. Then pro Tara brought her on their board after she left the governorship and then when she left the board, they gave her stock options that she traded in just a few months before they announced bankruptcy, so she made almost two million dollars and she's still the head of this unconstitutional Department of Energy.
It's mind blowing, it's absolutely flabbergasting. But they do all these things, they take away our opportunities, and yet people use this soft language and they don't say, what's going on. You're being ripped off and it's a state of war against you, and it always. As an anarchist, voluntarist, libertarian Christian, I have to say, the state is always at war with
people, and they have to recognize this. I hope they will. Well, not only are they is it at war, but it's institutionalized and legalized. And that's an important point to make, in that you don't have a right in this paradigm to defend yourself against the defradations of the state that is defined as criminal somehow if you simply wish to be left alone. There's also another aspect that I think is interesting, and it's this utopian press premise that
the status will bring out. They'll he'll point to the supposed brutish state of nature. If we didn't have government, while people would be at each other's throats, there would be chaos. Everybody would be would be trying to take everybody else's things and killing Rubert and so on. But at least you can defend yourself, first of all. And secondly, I think you you know you would have you wouldn't have this institutionalized, systematized violence that we're stuck with.
Now. Yeah, there might be some violence, but it wouldn't be a structure that you have to count how to. And if you don't count how to it, then somehow, by some weird leisure remain you're the criminal. You know, I my stuff. You know, I could prevent somebody else from taking what I've earned. It's mine, and that makes me a criminal somehow, And you know, Eric, it also goes towards the platonic
idiocy of who watches the watchers? You know, if you are incapable of making legitimate decisions about yourself, and only the state has legitimate power for the policing and things like that, then how can the state derive legitimacy from supposedly deriving its power from people who inherently individually are illegitimate in making their own decisions. Sure, so it makes us censorious, you know, and that now
you're thinking, and that's dangerous. And the other thing is we've got that, you know, just on a purely practical level, we have got the I mean, it's inarguable how incompetent these people are, you know, who presume to assume the power to manage us on the premise that we are too ignorant and selfish and shortsighted and so on to competently handle our own affairs as
if they are. Look at the mess that they have made of the world, of everything, you know, the catastrophic mess that they've made of everything. I don't think we could possibly do any worse. In fact, that's literally true, you and I as individuals, even if we were of the worst sort imaginable, there's only so much damage that you and I can do as an individual. A state, on the other hand, can damage tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of lives. Absolutely, the adoption
of this legal authority is just it's ridiculous. And I do want to bring up again some people, and many libertarians will do this. They'll say, well, there's no constitutional authority for that, and I just have to remind people I never signed the constitution. It has no authority over me. And it's an absolutely important point. It's a philosophical moral point to stress Eric on
that point. This is something I was going to bring up later in the program, but it actually has something to do with on the road again. And since we're here on the first of the year twenty twenty four with Eric Peters, everybody on the David Knight Show before we turn to the Rock fin and Rumble questions and we are streaming on Rumble, which is great. I did a double check while we were doing a few things here. I want to bring this up if I can. Eric. This is a piece that
I have over at my Sunday News Assembly on Substack. Oh take it. Yeah. We got the prisoner declared on mutual of course, because he just wanted to be left alone. He wouldn't count to what the government on the island demanded of him. But in this Sunday News Assembly I have a piece that at first blush might strike some people as being very obvious. Well, you know, clearly some ne'ir Dwells who got involved with sabotage. They messed
around with. As you can see is probably some light streaming on my face here as I get it up on the screen. They messed around with a road sign that how dare you mess around with a road sign? Those are things out there for public information about you know, driving and things that need to be used. That sort of thing. Drivers need to get this information. It's very important. But what I pointed out here was it actually opens up a thought process to something that's much bigger. And I think this is
down towards the end of my sub stack. It's number twenty two. In fact, I thought we only had twenty one stories publicized of this. Twenty one stories, twenty one jump Street. But here it is. It says after hate group's message appeared on roadside sign, city says it won't tolerate bigotry and hatred. So evidently they're called the Patriot Front and they were, you know, putting up finest Patriotfront dot us. I was unaware of the Patriot
Front. Maybe I had heard about them somewhere, Maybe a news story or two might have mentioned the Patriot Front. I don't know. I just don't know about them. The message was just I guess just the Patriot Front. It wasn't something that was necessarily offensive to people. But again, offence is in the eye of the beholder, just like boot beauty is like the Twilight Zone episode which they shot with such incredible alacrity. But as I brought this
up, I'd like to read this to you. This sort of paraphrases things in a nice quick bundle. I said, finally, we have this a story that, beneath the surface asks many questions about how it's at all possible to operate state run systems. If, as the Anti Defamation League claims, and of course they often claim things that aren't true. If as the ADEL claims, this is offensive to some this organization, Yet people have a supposed
right to freedom of speech in an abstract sense. We'll get to the constitutional level in a moment someday. Then how can the state run system take money from all these people of various feelings and opinions, cut out the free speech of some in this public, tax funded system, and still claim that it allows for free speech. This sign is funded with tax cash, So why can't everyone who wants to use the tax funded sign say that he or she has a claim on what the sign will say, perhaps no one can be
excluded from such a system if, of course they're paying taxes. Of course the government will try to restrict and it runs into arguments from people as to how the government property will actually be run. This sign, regardless of its original intent for highway use, is a perfect example of the ethical problem the state creates. And it's unmanageable, it's intractable. It's what do you think
about that? Well as Well said, and it also goes in the opposite direction, and that you know, we're forced to provide funds for the propagation I'm paraphrasing Jefferson here of ideas that we find repellent. And I can think a few things that are more tyrannical than that. You know, we're taxed to provide, for example, the government school books that present a point of
view that we may not like. And you know, it's even more just now that they've come out with this this like the LBGTQ plus stuff, the propagandization of children about sexual topics and schools. If you're, for example, troubled by abortion, you know you're compelled to help finance these things through the taxes that you pay. Right and absolutely right, worse in a way, in my opinion, than being denied an opportunity to express your point of view
being made to pay for it. Absolutely. You know, Eric, the thing that struck struck me when I was I'm maybe eleven years old. I was starting to get aware of this stuff, and I would say, why is it that people are getting upset about the minutia of the overall thing that should be upsetting them, the fact that they're getting their money taken from them to be pulled into this system. Why isn't that the first primufage a blush
of offense? And you don't need to go any further than that, you know, I mean, it's simple, I think probably because the system has been designed in such a way as to prevent that question from even a rising. You know, you ask that snatches kids up by march at kindergarten age, and you know, as a Jesuit would say, you know, give me, you know, give me a kid for the first ten years. I think it is, and he'll be mine for life. You know,
if you can, you can stymy the development of the critical faculty. You know, back in the olden days, the Romans talked about the trivium you know, which was teaching a child to think, to have that critical ability, that capacity to reason, and then you teach them particular things, but first you teach them how to think, not what to think. The government system is exactly the opposite. It imparts what to think, not how to think, and a lot of people, I think just they developed this habit
of rote, you know, because that's what the system encourages. You were expected to assimilate certain information that's provided to you and then you regurgitate this information and that's how you get good grades. Right, So, yeah, you proceed along with the path and you go even to the point where you get to college, and even in highly specialized academic disciplines. It's not that these are dumb people. They're just trained, almost like a seal, to be
very good at assimilating information and regurgitating information, not necessarily to think. You know, a really good example of this during the event that was called the pandemic. You had medical doctors, and these are obviously not dumb people. You know, you can't be a dummy and get through medical school. But still, you know, the critical faculty seem to have been short circuited. They were unable to evaluate the information and then respond to it in a way
that contradicted what they had been told. Is the dogma that they must repeat. I flashed that photograph of our friend who seems to be very happy getting ripped off and of course being fooled into the climate canard, I think, And you know, Eric, it's it's really cool. When I was in touch with Travis and David and so on, and David gave me a ring last night and wasn't able to connect and texted me and you know, was thanking me doing the show and everything. I'm just so grateful over the past
year. And I actually hadn't planned to bring this up, but I was just realizing, like, wow, it's been a year. It's been absolutely awesome to chat with you. And the work you do at Eric Peters Daughter's is just it's fun, and it's also really really informative and absolutely breaking breakneck pace breaking news. And of course I hope people will check out what they can buy at Eric Peters Autos to lend you a hand, and they can
always, you know, submit a donation that sort of thing. You do great great stuff, and they can find you at Libertarian car g on X and let's go back to the website and show that off again real quick, and then I'll give you a little something for the new year again from Willie to say farewell. There's our friend having a great time in his car. And if they go down a little further on the website, they'll see some of the great items that they can get at the store right there at the
BA Cap great stuff. I love it and I've got a black one, but I want to get the gray one. Got to get them, got to get them, Eric, awesome stuff. So Eric, as we go, any final thoughts for the new year, and you know the David Knight, David Knight team and audience and stuff like that, and I'll turn to rock fin get any questions you want in for Eric, or compliments to Eric,
anything like that. Let me know. Harps is watching from Australia, of course, where the roads are straight and flat in most areas unless you're out maybe in Toowoomba or something like that. But Harp's nice to have you there. Little John is there as well, and yeah, feel free to put your comments in there. Jason Barcas says, when you are not wearing a Trivium T shirt, yes, is there a band named Trivium? I wonder if there is one. Yeah, we'll find out. But yeah,
the Trivium. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that because I was gonna teach with a private school this winter but ended up not doing that, taking little time to take take away from teaching. And one of the key things for
them is teaching of the trivium. It's absolutely essential. And there's no possible way that even a public school system can approach teaching the trivium because they have seized the opportunity of the parents to pull away from what is important for this student, so that the public school system is always deciding for people and then immediately removes the ability to be able to teach people how to think. It's it's pretty scary stuff and harp says nice s k s Eric, Oh,
yeah, he recognized it. Mine's a check model. Actually, you might see the grenade launcher attachment on it. Yeah, let's put you in the full screen there, Hold on a second, I'm gonna put you in the full screen. Okay, and you see. Okay, let's see if I can help. Let's see how's that. Oh, now I'm gonna get slatted for sure, Probably that's the this is the grenade attachment that that came with these. I do not have a grenade to go with it, though,
and it's it's chiefly for display purposes only. Hey, guard me. Still there, Jason would like to know Eric what your daily driver is. Okay, Well, I have several. I've got two thousand and two Nissan Frontier pickup, which I scheme and love very much because it does not have any advanced driver assistance technology. And when I need to replace the battery, I don't need to have a flatbed and do a dealer to get it done either.
Yeah. I've also got a bunch of motorcycles, and when the weather's nice, I have my own muscle car that I take out every once in a while, the Great Pumpkin, my seventy six Ponty Act trans am. That's awesome. That is awesome. You know. I think about some of those cars, the muscle cars and stuff, and that gets me thinking about, you know, cars that I might have seen in Canniball run or that sort of thing. And then you always, you always hear about the General
Lee. I wonder how many copies of the General Lee they had, you know, because they were always pulling stunts and if some of them, I mean they just they bashed those things up so much. It was absolutely crazy. You know, most part people know about this. They trashed an astounding number of sixty nine Dodge Chargers because you know, every time you watch the car jump, you know, you could see they cut the scene when the car lands because that's the frame bent. And it's tragic the way they destroyed
those cars. But you know, back in the day, you know when they the Duke's Hazard was what I think it came out in like nineteen seventy nine, I guess yeah. I think at that time the charger was just an old car, right, I mean, it wasn't this highly desirable relic of the beforetime that it is. Unfortunately those cars are gone. And the same with Smoking the Bandit. They trashed a bunch of transcends in filming that the famous jump over the pond that was the end of that transnd. It's
crazy, It's absolutely crazy. All I can think of is, you know, watching stunts when I was a kid, wanting to be a stunt driver, glad that I'm not a stunt driver, and just loving watching you know, bash up derby things, and as you mentioned that charger, you know, the charger by that time, most of the chargers that were around were you know, seven ten years old. They were beater cars, and they weren't considered, as you say, the highly collectible before times vehicles. And
I love watching those things now. And I never even watched that show when I was a kid because we couldn't get CBS in on the on the antennas very well, was always you know, the ant parade, so we couldn't see anything, you know, and one of the one of the aspects of
it we all know about this. It's really just despicable, is the way the left has tried to frame the show The Dukes of Haazard, of somehow being a racist show because the car had the Confederate battle flag on the roof, and of course it was the farest thing from that, but they try
to they try to make that association. It's very important for them to do that because if the topic gets discussed at any depth, you find out that what the states of the Southern Confederacy were trying to do is essentially the same thing that the American colonies did do successfully, which was to secede from a union that they didn't want to be part of. Oh, now, come on, what are you talking about. It's government by the people, for the people, and of the people. It's not in any way imposed.
It's we and you will be part of it. Actually, one of my favorite articles by the great writer and with hl Menkin is one. It's a very short article that he in which he dissects the Gettysburg Address by Abraham Lincoln and he describes it and un paraphrasing here as one of the most stupendous pieces of poetry and dissembling that has ever been produced ever, you know. And when she talks about the people of the people, by the people, and
for the people, shall not perish from this earth. I mean, the whole point this water that occurred was to do exactly the opposite, to prevent the states of the Southern Confederacy from establishing a government of their people by their
people. Perfectly stated. That is so true. Eric, And as a guy who had to play Abraham Lincoln in fourth grade and recite the Gettysburg Address on the bi centennial, I don't know how many times for different audiences all around the town, and I had and in fact it's funny that I have. I had a hat similar to this, similar to this hat. I had my stove pipe hat, and I think this is the this is the way that it goes. And I had a fake beard that looped around my
ears with elastic bands and it went down like this. And I had to do that stupid address over and over and over again because I was the tall kid. You know, it's some interesting stuff about Lincoln. Hitler admired him
greatly. Yes, if you read there's a section in Moncamp where Hitler talks about link and how he consolidated the central government of the United States and turned what had been largely independent states in the old school sense, as in independent countries into essentially administrative districts controlled by a centralized authority, which is exactly what
he did, Yes, exactly exactly. And now David is the one who brought it up to my attention about how Italy, which had been you know, city states for so so long around that same time, so consolidation into the nation state. All around the world, there was this tendency to see things consolidating into the nation states and the growth of these larger hegemonic areas,
and we can see this now. And you know, my brother went to Washington and Lee University for law school, and it was until he was there he had not been aware of the sense of the people in the South and how they really understand that their push for independence was utterly crushed by a monic, evil person named Abraham Lincoln. And that really opens a lot of eyes when you find out. And again I'll recommend Tom de Lorenzo's book The Real
Lincoln. Anybody who's interested in this topic should read. He's written several books on the topic and he's a fantastic scholar, and in addition to that, he's a great storyteller too. Oh yeah, this is really really top shelf and it's a good read as well as being an educational read. Absolutely well, Eric, thank you so much, Happy New Year, and thanks again coming in a little bit after time that was promised. I'm glad we were
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