Come back and joining us now is Tony Ardaban. It's always great talking to Tony. He has wise Wolf gold and silver and he has also set up Davidknight dot Gold that will take you to his website. He sells gold and silver small or large quantities. Also, you can sign up for wolf Pack and you can get a large or small quantity on a monthly basis and get the advantages of a group buying discount. So all that stuff is there at wise Wolf. You can find it again with David Knight dot Gold. Let
him know that you came to us. Good to have you on, Tony, thanks for joining, Thanks for having me back. David. Always good to see you. We were talking off air and he said, we can start by picking up where I was just talking about tariffs. What's your take on the tariff stuff here? Should we just add ten percent or sixty percent? As that Reason magazine said, You know, people are going to see the price of stuff going up. Does it really make any difference to them,
whether it's inflation or whether it's extra taxes? In the bottom line is everything is more expensive, right right? And I was listening to the show, A great show, by the way, Thank you this subject matter, and nobody's talking about it. It seems it's just appeared out of nowhere, which is the most bizarre thing. And the tariffs are like a funhouse mirror version of what they actually were intended to be. If you know anything about the history of the United States, I mean, the second act out of
Congress was the Terriff Act. You know, all four presidents on Mount Rushmore, all the figures on our paper currency all supported tariffs. There's no free traders in there. This is a twentieth century concoction, you know, especially posts World War Two, to open up our markets after we destroyed Japan and Europe was in ruins and we opened up our markets. So this has always been an argument against protectionism. Protectionism was isolationism, and isolationism was well all
it was racist, and it's all these horrible things. You can't be. You can't be an economic nationalist. And it's something that Pat Buchanan talked about running for president in the nineteen nineties. I started picking up as a teenager. I started looking into economic nationalism. I was fascinated by this. I'm like, does it is? It really is? So much of the majority of they abandoning what worked, and I over time I came to the conclusion
that they had they abandoned what had built the country. What's so bizarre, David, I know a lot about this because when I ran for office, I did. Look I was a pariah to the establishment, and I'd go on talk radio, even like the conservatives who I was on talk the crop of conservatives I was with and talk radio, they've all gone on to syndication. But when I would talk about, you know, economic nationalism, tariffs, they said, that's lib stuff. You're doing lib stuff, like that's
what that's what liberals do. And I'm like, no, that's that's part of our history. But I think the most fascinating part about it now is that you've got Joe Biden, who was an absolute free trader NAFTA guy, was forgat you know, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs A KAFTA, the Central American Free Trade Agreement TPP. This was Barack Obama's deal. It was remember the Trade Transpacific Partnership was so good. Even read the bill.
Paul Ryan wouldn't let you couldn't. You had to go into a secure basement at the Capitol and you couldn't take pictures of it or leave with any paperwork if you were a member of Congress, but you were supposed to pass it because free trade works. So my big question now is Joe Biden is talking about these tariffs. I mean, Trump put on some tariffs when he was president, and I think I thought that was kind of a natural extension of
where the country was going. But now I'm just totally uncertain because it seems it's targeted. It has nothing to do with it, you know. I think one of the main things about free trade is is that if you can't make it here, then it should be free. If it can't be made here, then there should be no import taxes at all. So but if it can be made here, then it needs to be strategic. But what are these people doing, because these are the establishment has always reflexively shot down
any sort of argument for tariffs. This has been this has always been the establishment Its gold is to make sure that that isolationism and protectionism is dead. But now they're saying that's good. So I think this is where this is the sign post. You know, the red flags that I look for in the headlines that are to me signaling that there's much more to this story, obviously. I mean I go back to just just you know, ten years ago, my friend, Congressman Ralph Hall, who I worked for, I
ran against him, and I worked for him for a little while. He was alone voice in Congress that was standing up for American steel workers. He was one of the only members of Congress. Why at the same time the South Koreans were dumping in these giant swaths of steel into our market and aluminum, and I remember him being so there was nobody talking about putting tariffs on anywhere. There was again it was it was supposed to be a throwback. Now I think the red flag, David, and I'd love to get your
take on this. What is happening you have? You know, I saw Biden give him this press conference, so they talking about tariffs. I know there's a trade war. It starts with the currency war. You know. Again, we're we're in a fourth turning. As you talk about, there's massive shifts geopolitically going on, and the headlines don't necessarily mean what the mainstream media thinks they mean. So I'm looking at this totally differently. When you've
got an establishment that has abandoned their own playbook in its silence. It's the like you say that the Sherlock Holmes, the dog that didn't bark. No there is. I have not seen one talking head come out and condemn Biden for teriffs. I've not seen one. There might be, but I have not seen one headline, one pushback from all of the voices that when you know, if you ten years ago, fifteen years you talk about this and you were, oh, that's just that's just a bygone era. You know,
we live in a modern global economy. Now you would get that you don't know what you're talking about. That would But now they're just throwing tariffs out there. So again i'm four tariffs. Well, I think that there is. I agree, and you know, as we've talked about this in the past. You know, Jefferson in his second inaugural address said, by eliminating useless offices and shrinking size of the government, I'm paraphrasing it here,
we have eliminated all internal taxes from the federal government. So no farmer, no labor, no mechanic knows the taxman. But you noticed that the first thing he did was he cut the size of government, right, that allowed him to cut the taxes. But then the taxes were at the border, and America was a free free of taxes except for what would happen at the
state and local level. And then everything changed in nineteen thirteen when you had the federal reserve and the income tax and then they started making this stuff a free trade and all that, and that was a big change right there, and I think we're in for another change. I think the common thing that I see is that both Trump and Biden are using these tariffs as an attack. This is not an economic argument about what would be best for the economy.
They don't care what is best for the economy. They're using it to attack China. Right. Trump says ten percent across the board, because hey, we're Americans. I'm going to show you that I'm going to put America first, and then sixty percent for Chinese goods. And Biden is using the tariffs and he's using sanctions and things like that as a prelude to war. And I think that's what that's really about. And you know, so to
me, I look at it. You're talking about steel. We can't have steel if you're going to shut down energy, right, and that's what happened. They just had the last steel plant in the UK shut down. Why
because they can't compete with anything in China. China's got cheap energy because they can build as many and as dirty coal powered plants as they want, but they're shutting all that down in Europe and the United States, so we can't compete with the Chinese because that's one of the biggest cost factors going into the making of steel. So steel is going to shut down whether or not you put any tariffs at the border, you put teriffs at the border, you're
still going to have no steel. If you've got all kinds of restrictions on energy production, you're still not going to be able to make steel effectively. And if you do, it's going to be incredibly expensive. But then they'll put taxes on any steel that's coming across the border as well. It's just a way of strangling US. I think I think both of these presidents, their policies are not about putting American interest and saving the American economy. I
think it's about war. I think it's about pushing war. I think it's about going to war with other countries. And I think it's about going to war with the American people as well. I agree with you one thousand percent. This is these are these tariffs are acts of war. They have nothing to do with strengthen the economy. I remember when Trump was running for president the first time and he said, I'm going to build the wall in Mexico's going to pay for it. And I said, he can absolutely do that.
He just has to put You put a five per sent tariff on non agricultural goods coming across the border. You pay for the wall over what a five year period or something. He never made that argument. I kept wondering why his team didn't just tell him to say that he could, because the media would say, you can't do that in Mexico is not going to pay for it. They never made the argument. It was bizarre. And now
you've had these, you're talking about sixty percent some odd tariffs. I will say China already has they used all playbook, kind of like the smooth Holly tariffs in the nineteen thirties. They have fifty percent tariffs on a lot of stuff like incoming goods. You can't hardly get things into China. They propose free trade, but they don't practice it necessarily. But these this is you're
exactly. We didn't set the conditions either or to give incentives to these companies to build things here, to make things that we don't try these tax free zones, so we're not creating. So it's really it's just an act of war, exactly, not doing anything to help our economy or to help our manufacturing whatsoever. If they wanted to do that, they would start reducing imposed cost, imposed regulations, prohibitions and bands and all the rest of this stuff.
But now they keep layering those on. So it's like, Okay, what's the real agenda here? Real agenda is to make us poor, is to go to war with us and to go war with other countries via these economic measures, because that's why the wars always start. I got some questions for you. A lot of people put some questions on here for you. Tony rock fan Asyrian girl says, please ask Tony where he suggests people keep their medals. Seems like after CBDC hits, the government will raid the big
custodial houses. Huge hit there and certainly all safety deposit boxes. What do you think, Well, first of all, safety deposit boxes bad idea, just a bad idea across the board. You got your name or your company's name on a safety deposit box in the bank. You might have a great relationship with your bank, but those are all on the record, and you just don't want to do that. I think there's some good storage houses, but you're right. I mean I use the storage house IDs and other places
they'll engage in Dallas and their networks I use them for. And that's where the rich, you know, they don't keep their metals at home. They're very wealthy. They have off site storage, you know. But again, unless you hold it in your hand and you've secured it it, it's about the only true way to know I've got this gold or silver, So I mean nothing. I would never say that's a one hundred percent safe over here.
I mean, you've got degrees of safety. And I think that if it's a custodial storage facility that's outside of the banking system, which if you store your metals with me, like with a gold and silver, I RaSE it's outside of the banking system, it's not linked to a bank. That's a good place to start. If you can secure them at home with a fireproof safe and you feel pretty good about you know, having somebody watch it if you leave or anything like that. I mean, that's a good way
to store it as well. That's a great question. I think the degrees of safety, you know, as you depart away from you holding it in your hand securely, that those are going to change. And I think you have to do your own research and whichever you're comfortable with, and especially how much you have. Yeah, yeah, buried in the yard, that's that's not there's way, but you can look that up. There's ways to do that. Yeah, make sure make sure that you know where it is.
There's a lot of says that are out there like that. I had some frenzy did that back in North Carolina, so uh and uh, yeah, that's the first time I saw that on Rock Fin and Jason Barker, Good to see you, Jason as Tony. If a precious metal IRA will be taxed when it is drawn out. Many states have done away with taxing medals, So I think that's two different things. Right, You got sales tax, which a lot of them are getting rid of, but then of course
the IRA, depending on what kind of IRA you got. You know, if you've deferred the taxes on it. Yes, whenever you take money out in any form, they're going to tax it, right right, Well, that's that's per the regulations of the IRA. And it wouldn't matter if it's precious metals or you got it tied to mutual funds or just vapor or just in a savings account. It's all tied to this same taxing system them and it's whether or not it's matured, and of course the state you're living in.
That's a good question. Like I think what he's referring to is the income tax of those states that would be that would pertain to the same thing again with this with the paper I RA just regular eye, that would be the same system of taxation. So you'd ask your CPA on that. But I'm not one hundred percent sure on the states that actually tax income on precious
metals. Yeah, there's like a roth IRA where you can pay the taxes in the year that you make the money, and then you can you can put it in this IRA and then you don't have to pay on the compounded gain. I think I don't know, not an accountant, but you know standard one. You deduct whatever you put into the IRA that year against your income taxes, so then you have to pay when you take it out.
And as you said, that is there regardless of you know, whether you've got stocks or bonds or metals or you know, cash or whatever you've got in your i RA. That's a function of the IRA. On rumble ap Rumbleseet says, can you ask Tony if you think so, we'll attempt taking the system down this year for digital currency, taking the entire financial system down to this year in the CBDC this year this year. I hope not.
I think that's always a possibility. I think the further we the closer we get to any sort of kinetic war with an outside entity, and I'm praying that we don't do that. Like if you see all that. That's why I was talking at the beginning of our interview here about how strange it is on these tariffs. I mean, if you don't know history, if you haven't paid close attention to the financial history the last couple hundred years, then it doesn't seem all that out of sorts, but it is out of sorts.
It's very strange. So these are kind of the signposts and things that are alarming me. So if we stay out of the box of having any sort of kinetic conflict that's major. I think we can continue a while. I think they'd like to. I think they'd like to have a smoother transition into CBDC. I think it'd be like, oh, and it will be precipitated by I believe, a banking crisis, and it'll be a way for
you to for your safety, you to opt into it. I know, kind of stimulus check, some kind of stimulus money that's going to be tied to you accepting it, because that's the plan that they used. The gates push that in India with their odd Haar system. They got all the poor people sign on it because you know, hey, you want to get your you want to get welfare, you want to get you know, medical care. You got to take a number and weight, you know, but you
take the mark of the beast and weight that type of thing. So it'll be they'll bust stuff and then oh but we're here to help you, but you're gonna have to get the ID. That's the only way you can process, right. Yeah, I agree, I agree with that totally. It'll be more of a soft thing than than a complete demolition of the grid itself and then ordering you to you have to accept it. I think it's part of Part of this is on a spiritual level, like you were talking earlier
about the spiritual entities really that guide the conspiracy. It's not like one family or two families. I mean, I think there are some linkages and bloodlines and things like that, but I think it's I think it's all spiritual. Yeah. Yeah, And of course you know, people do pass their spirituality along good or bad to their kids in many ways. And you know,
we're talking about the grid down scenario right. One of the things. We looked at this and we say, well, you know, they're not gonna take the grid down because they really need to have that grid for their own purposes and everything. But now we start to see they're with artificial intelligence and with these other things. As they're destroying our grid. You've got sam Altman, you got Bezos, all these you know, these art like villains.
They're setting up their own personal power stuff. You know, they're gonna have their own nuclear reactors and things like that. So they're setting up a parallel grid. And of course the government's got its own as well, so they could very easily come in and say, you know, I'm really sorry, but you know, we've just been hacked by the Russians and they've completely destroyed
the grid that y'all use. It's a good thing that we thought about having our own separate grid out here, and we're just fine, thank you. And they'll keep their Internet, and they'll keep their surveilling stuff, and they'll keep all the things that they're doing, but they'll shut down the power to us. That's why that's one of the things that people need to think about in terms of preparing. You know, what are you going to do?
How are you going to live without it? Can you come up with some kind of your self power generation, because they're setting up their own power generation that is off of the grid as well. So useless Eaters of the World unite. That's where we just set up a club, the Useless Eaters Club. Parallel economies, parallel systems. We set up our own, Yeah, I think we can. We set up our own. They want their own thing. They're all these bond villains, yeah, and globalists, Satanists.
They set up their own fine, but they still have to have people to run them. You know, this the world Economic Forum, Klaus Swabian. Live in your pod and you'll own nothing and be happy. Here's some bugs from Greta. That future that they're proposing, nobody wants it, Yeah, but he wants It's it's dead on a rival. Nobody wants it. And you know, I love that. You know, he's he's finally stepped down. And of course the World Economic Form is just the same age as as
our fiat currency dollar. You know, they kind of go together in nineteen seventy one. Is this they're on the same path, you know, And it's Fiata's fake and and again that's what they've proposed. Nobody wants. It's the world that they've created is a hellhole. It's unstable, it's schizophrenic, it is it's dirty. Right. We don't have the Jetsons future that we were promised. There's no flying cars, there's you know, and it doesn't
look good. They've done their best to suppress, uh, the imagination and ingenuity and spirit of people in the United States, especially to make sure that we're just kind of like a we got this one one class of people. That's our two classes of people have the super elite and then us the rest of us, and there's almost no middle class. They've done a pretty good job at that. Although make sure they've got their flying cars. They just
to make sure we don't have any access to them. And I'm not necessarily certain that I would want to be on one of their flying cars either, if we take a look at the cyber truck, for example. But another couple of questions here on rock Fan Michelle Obama and thank you for the tip, says I might be five kinds of wolf in six months, depending on how much extra cash I'm working with. I change it all the time. Once you sent me a little gold coin, I carry it sometimes and show
people. Occasionally. People inspect hold it as if it's a medieval sailing navigation apparatus. They have no idea what is going on or if it's real so much fun. If not for WWG wisewolf gold, I would not be holding and he says airborne, and then he also, I guess he was in airborne as well as you were in that, right, Tony, Absolutely yeah, so I guess both of you are in Airborne. On rock Faan, Michelle Obama also writes, he says, Tony, regarding the col why is
Wolf Gold Flash sales. How does that work? Why isn't there ever any of those crazy cool space looking Chinese coins from Wolf classes Flash? What is that solid? Okay, So I don't know, do you understand I'm not sure I understand the question. Think Well, first of all, thank you, and I'm so I'm proud when I hear you know that. Really that gives me fuel to continue what I'm doing and try to find great products for
people. When you say, well, I really loved what you sent us, because we again, I search weekly, you know, everywhere, all the nooks and crannies to get the best deals so I can put those in a wolf pack and give them the variety. I'm very cognizant of every single item that goes in every invoice, So thank you for appreciating that. It's been interesting the last ten days. Silver has gone up to the highest it's been in the last eleven years. Well, and you know it's broke thirty
two dollars an ounce. We had a large silver by the other day, and as I was building the lone Wolf packages, I realized that I couldn't with shipping and everything else, I couldn't give them just a regular silver round. I had to make something different. So what I did was I had bought giant thing of It was one of the largest things I've ever bought of silver dollars pre nineteen hundred Morgan silver dollars. So if you're a lone Wolf,
you got to you got a real morgane. I was able to buy them for a good amount where I saved enough I could pass it on to the customer, and we looked them up. Some of them are going to be worth more than even I thought they were gonna be worth. So you're gonna get a collectible if you're a Lone Wolf member. So and that it's going to last until I run out of these silver dollars. So everything is very thought out when it comes to Wolf packing. The reason there's no the
flash sales and the website. You're echoing my frustration if I just had if I just had another me. Now, I'm not proposing cloning or anything. I don't want to get. I don't want to get on a uv all HARARII World Economic Forum. Thing about it that I'm hackable, but I wish I had more more of you know, my style of thinking, and I could duplicate that I'm just running into the wall every week. I mean, just like every day. It is kind of bleeding into the next Now can
it only get so far ahead? But we are going to do more flash sales and and uh, you know there's gonna be there's gonna be more updates to the website. So to stand by on that. It's not going to be stagnant. I won't leave it there. Okay, great? Yeah. I remember the movie Multiplicity with Michael Keaton. Yes, he kept making copies of himself and it would just get one aspect of his personality or if they did a copy of a copy, it got kind of blurry, you know,
not too not too bright kind of them. I don't think the world needs any more of either. It was a funny movie. I don't know about the science involved in that, but uh, it was a lot of fun. And let's see another question here, and it's an ayt would that be a night let's just say, well sorry if I mispronounced it anyway, Hey, Tony is the why is to invest in silver and gold jewelry if you can, if you understand the purity of the jewelry you're looking at.
And one of the things I would recommend, is you understand like ten Carret gold is thirty nine percent, fourteen Carrett gold is fifty nine percent, and so on and so forth. Look at eighteen Carred at seventy two percent. Know the purity of the item that you're buying, how much it weighs in grams? And do the math, you know, the thirty one point one
grams. I know I'm giving you a lot of math here, which is this is great to get all these questions, David, if if I will add on Saturday at three pm, I have to record a show that's we're affirmed that going to be doing podcasts with They wanted me to do like an infommercial type show, not necessarily for my company, but to answer questions on Saturday on all my channels. Pretty much. You can come find me,
whether it's on Rock fin or even on YouTube. I have a Wisewolf YouTube for now, and we're going to do questions from the audience and questions that are already submitted. So three pm Central time, if you want to join us for that, great, definite, great do that. That's on Saturday. And of course you said you're on YouTube for now. I guess when they push CBDC through, it'll be illegal to talk about gold. It'll be
the it'll be the financial equivalent of ivermectin. I guess I don't put any I just always assume when I'm going to log in that it's gone, because it happened to two of my other channels. I just assume if it's I'm like, oh wow, it's still streaming. But to get to answer the question on gold and silver jewelry, just know how much weight you're looking at and know about the purity. Sterling silver is ninety two point five percent, so just go by that. It does. Don't overpay too much. There's
some beautiful jewelry out there that you can get some jewelry value for. But the more that you do that, it's kind of like watches. Yeah, watch it great, Rolex watchers are great, but you have to know exactly what you're doing. You have to you have to know what the what's the store of value in that item? And like a there's a lot of people that do twenty four carrot gold jewelry. You can get that from me. Actually, if you could get bracelets and necklaces and they're not they're not stylist
per se. But you can get them for me. That's the stuff that you could wear out of the country or wear somewhere, and that's just housing your wealth. Another thing you can do the ladies do. You could put them you know, you could get a twenty dollars gold piece, put it in a bezel, you know, on a fourteen carret gold chain. You know, it's three thousand dollars right there or more, you know, of
just meltable value. So the jewelry can be a good investment, but you have to know what you're doing as far as how much it weighs versus the price of the metal. Yeah, that'd be one way to travel with it. And of course, you know, as you point out, you know, just just ordinary necklace or something like that, some people will pay extra because the aesthetics of it. And then you get into more of an issue is somebody else is going to be willing to pay for the esthetics like you
paid for it. Just keeping it there on the weight amount and the purity amount. That's that's a smart way to do that. You know. I was looking at this and of course we've had the interest rates. The FED came out and they got hawkish, and so that that drove down stocks, bonds, gold, and oil, and I thought, well, that's kind of interesting, and I looked at gold versus oil, and look at this
chart, folks. The orange one there. I know you can't see this, tony, but the orange is gold and you can and you can see that, and the blue one is oil, and so you can see that. Occasionally there's been some spikes up or down with either gold or with oil, but they've pretty much tracked each other, uh, and they're being priced and that's their price in the dollar, and so they pretty much go along. And so what we're talking about is really whether or not the FED is
going to try to boost the dollar. That's what I find interesting about all this. And but you know, when we look at it, somebody what made me look at this, tony, was somebody said, get ready for one hundred dollars oil one hundred dollars gallon oil at the pump someday, and maybe one hundred and thirty if you want premium, you know. And I thought, yeah, let me look and see how oil and gold have tracked. And they track each other pretty closely because they're real versus the dollar,
which is a fiat and it's not real. And so what is happening with the hawkish FED and how they're manipulating these other financial instruments is simply about them boosting the dollar, because as you were talking about, the Chinese have been moving their stuff out of the dollar significantly. They said in April the Chinese boosted their gold holdings. They bought enough gold that was roughly equivalent to five percent of what they publicly said they had, So you know, that's pretty
significant. And they're dumping American financial instruments coming out of the Federal Reserve. So the question is this, what do you think, Tony. We've always suggested and thought that they would be lowering interest rates, sacrificing having inflation in order to support Biden, and of course Biden has just completely emptied out one aspect of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to try to give an artificial high to the
economy. But is the FED going to support that or is the Fed's primary mission, you think, supporting this dollar which is really under attack by China now moving away from this China and Russia because it's weaponized by Biden, or you know, they're going to do whatever they need to do to support that, regardless of what happens to Biden and politics. What do you think,
Well, that is the question. You go back to interviews that we've had over the last couple of years, and as they've been raising interest rates faster than any time in history, I've often said I think the economy is secondary to them. Always I don't think so. Do you think the central banksters care that deeply about the economy. No, they care about the supremacy of the currency they traffic in. And the way that you keep that supreme is
you keep value in it. Way you keep values, you keep interest rates, how you keep what they would refer to as a strong dollar. And these moves that are being made by the Biden administration, these tariffs, which I think are just crazy if you know anything, again, I find it just so hard to believe these are These are diet in the wool free traders just throwing out that we're going to do tariffs. So something is afoot.
Yeah, something something is not right. And I would say that at the end of the day, they would sacrifice because you and I both know whoever wins in November, we lose. It doesn't really matter the establishment goes on, you're going to get a warp speed, you're gonna get a foreign war, you're gonna have open borders. You might get some interesting tweets if you know, if if Orange Man wins, you might get something like that.
But you're not gonna get You're not gonna get policy that we that's going to help the country. You're just not because we've already I've already we've already done this before, which is even the weirder part, because we have to do it again, and people, the same people that live through it, think
that it's going to be different. So I really do believe that at the end of the day, if it comes down to it, they if they know that if they lower rates that it'll goose the economy and give them a sugar high, but that will hurt their standing as the world's reserve currency and their ability to project power will wane. I think they'll choose high interest rates. I think they'll choose raising rates. I think they'll step away from quantitative
easy. And it's because I again, because I think no matter what happens in November, they will they need to continue. Uh That's how that's how they reign supreme the Pentagon. You know, I said this many times. The Pentagon with what three years ago, ran a gen z bitcoin revolt scenario on how to combat the younger generation moving away from the dollars. So they know where their lifeblood comes from, the life blood of the military industrial complex
is the United States dollar. I agree, yeah, And I think I think Biden is a is expendable non essential in that regard. Now his job has been declared not essentially and Trump as well, you know, because they, like you said, they don't care about the economy. They care about their dollar, which is their superpower. And I don't think that they care about Biden as much. Typically they would do things to make him look good, but I don't think they care about that either. So I'm not quite
so sure they're going to be doing any interest rate cuts before. But the bottom line is, you get into goal because it's insurance against what they're going to do. It's insurance against their economic policies, which and the chaos that they want to create, and it's insurance against their CBDC trap. And so for all those reasons, you know, get out of their system, have
some things out of their system. Just like we're talking about how they're creating their own power grid and all the rest of the stuff which they're not going to share with us. I'm sorry, there's not enough power. We've got to run the artificial intelligence and the surveillance stuff, so we don't have any left for you sos. You got your stuff on your own, your food
production and all the rest of this stuff. We're going to have to do as much as we can to get as far away from their lockdown system as we can. I think that's true of the money as well. And I think that gold and silver are money. So honestly, you know, I'm not in the investment game, but I do trade fake Luciferian bankster notes and
turn those and transmute those into real money. And that's gold and silver and always a good idea to have physical That's part of I think what's happening the revolution and currency, that we're seeing this big shift that's going Even Steve Forbes put out an article about how the world's reserve currency is going to be gold again. It's just going to shift away from the dollar. It's not going to be like the bricks, it's not going to be the Chinese you want.
It's not going to be any of that. It'll be gold again. Mm hm, that'll be that'll be the world's reserve currency. I agree, yeah, and troubled on certain crisis times. That's that's what's going to happen. He understands it, and I think some people are starting to get it outside of the levers of power in the central banks. Thank you so much for coming on, Tony. Thank you for what you do to support the show and folks again, you can get to Tony's wise Wolf through David Knight
dot gold Aoidmente. There's a couple more questions. Have you got a moment? Got it? Go ahead? Okay? On Rumbled Texas JFK mindset. Can you guys talk about the real estate investment predictions, both residential and commercial. Well, I think you can see where inflation is. It's in the home prices. I was in real estate for many years. I had a real estate brokers when I got out of the military. Is one of the first things that I got interested in. I love real estate, but I
think that we're in a it's so fake. It's hard to see where the value is, what's up or down? What's the true value of any of these things, especially the housing market. And I think Jerald Salente's right. I mean you start looking at the vacancy rates of these major cities or these office buildings. Yeah, you want to see like a bomb that's about to
go off. That's going to be so I don't I think that we're going to see lower prices like if if you can hold for a while, like if you're going to go pick up some there's going to be a in my opinion, there'll be a housing crisis of some kind with with with uh, not only you know, availability, but the ability to obtain the homes, and that's just it's going to be. It's going to be bad for values.
I agree when you look at it, we're really entering another one of these financializations of the residential marketplace again like we did before, but in a different way. You know, it's not exactly repeating, but it does rhyme with it, because what are we seeing now. We're seeing that only these Wall Street and hedge fund people have the liquidity to buy houses at this price.
Uh, they don't have to worry you so much about the interest rates because they're paying cash for it. So they got the money to buy this stuff, but then you know, what do we do with that? So that that's the real big issue, and then there's the generation generational issues with
it. After Tony goes, I've got something to say about the financialization farm lands as part of the war on food and on farming because now the big real estate people are getting in. It's not just commercial real estate, which is you know, going belly up and a threat to the banking industry,
as Gerald says, because of the lockdowns and things like that. And it's not just because of the inflation and housing and the high interest rates that's causing the financialization of homes where they want to make sure that all of us are renters. But it's also the financialization of farm lands. So we'll talk about that when we come back as well. Let's see comment from Northwest free Zone bricks will destroy the dollar? Yeah, I think so. And on Sprumford
yesterday, Massey was on Serious Patriot Channel being interviewed by Ron DeSantis. As soon as MASSI brought up ending the FED because he introduced a bill to end the FED, good guy Massy DeSantis went to Commercial brought to you by Fightzer. Now wait the Federal Reserve. Also, why does the government only put fifty dollars value on a gold eagle when they're obviously worth way more? Yeah, what does that? Does that value mean anything? Why they bide their
shame? That's so it's wishful thinking. They've already waved across that threshold. You know, they went from twenty dollars an ounce, and of course Franklin Roosevelt made it thirty five dollars an ounce after he told you to turn the gold in. I have a lot of those twenty dollars gold pieces here in the shop. So they moved to the thirty five dollars now, so fifty you know, under Reagan, that's when they came back with the relaunch of
the one ounce gold eagle and the silver eagle. That was just a way of kind of getting a wink and to nod to the way things used to be when there was value in their currens. That's all that is wishful think. Yeah, yeah, it's just a nostalgic engraving that's on it, isn't it. I guess if they put the actual value at dollars on there, that'd be a different ballgame, wouldn't it, it would look really strange to the average person. That's right, CHEV three twenty one. Where would gold
and silver be considered legal tender? Lots of states here in the Union, for sure. There's other countries that also have gold as legal gold mostly as legal tender. But all over the United States, that's a question. I haven't did you know. We've had a lot of these states now, several of them I've talked about it, have said through the UCC Code, the Universal Commercial Code. So the UCC, they've said that they would recognize cryptocurrency,
not recognize a central bank digital currency, foreign or domestic. Do they ever say anything in the UCC about gold and silver, Not that I'm aware of. Interesting, I'm not sure of that. I do know a lot of these states have just gone ahead and said, you know, gold and silver and you know are legal tender. You can use the American Gold Eagle and the American silver Eagle. But you have to remember too that if long,
gold and silver are very liquid. So if you just got a if you've got a dealer like me, or a golden silver exchange, or just putting it out to the public, you can sell it yourself. It's very easy to get in and out of gold and silver. So gold and silver
just really to me are a better form of money. Yeah, And of course, you know, we get into a situation where we've got great markets or black markets or something like that, which I'm assuming that's what's going to be in the future, then that all is going to work its way out, you know, because people figured out and they will do it pretty quickly how to determine the value of the gold coins. Of course, we used
to have people who would shave off the edges. That's why they've got the ridges on there, you know, just shave a little bit off so they could gradually accumulate it. But it's a better way to gradually accumulate, an honest way to gradually accumulate it by going to a wolf pack at Wisewolf Gold through David Knight dot gold. Thank you so much for coming on, Tony.
Do you have a program today following this show or I do? I have the Orderburn radio transmission eleven am Central Time, so all right, if you want to join it, join me over on rock Finn or on my Twitter at Tony Ardburn will be broadcasting live great great and bring you questions, all right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll continue the questions there. Thank you so much, Tony, thanks for coming on, and thanks for all that you do to support the broadcast. You really do appreciate it.
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