INTERVIEW Tony Arterburn, What's Going on with Bitcoin and Gold

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Joining us now is Tony Ardeban of Wisewolf Gold, and Tony has kindly set up David Knight dot Gold to take you to his website and let him know that you're coming through us. And it is a very interesting time for gold. We have seen this stuff skyrocket over a couple of couple of months, hitting all time highs every other day. Now the same thing is happening with bitcoin and gold is going back going down, and so I want to get Tony's take as to what is

Well, it's great to be here. David.

Yeah, gold hit like it's all time high thirty five times this year and now it's pulled back. And see what it's spot price right now for gold. But we pulled back into twenty five and seventy one Luciferian bankster notes make a troy ounce to the yellow metal. And again we talked about this on Halloween, you know, two weeks ago about election outcomes.

This is all psychological, yes, if there was a been.

I think if there have been a Harris administration, gold would probably be at twenty eight hundred right now and climbing. Silver would be probably close to forty right now, and bitcoin would be pulled back into the fifty five thousand rangers.

So that's what I predict.

Agree with you, yeah, because it was clear that Harrison the Democrats are going to go to war with crypto. They've been doing, that's right, Yeah.

Yeah, And I think there's just been status quo. But this is the unknown, and I think the psychological effect of a Trump victory and a Trump administration.

It's funny.

The underlying fundamentals though, that's what you've got to remember. All that's still there, yeah, deed, allarization, the fiscal house that's on fire, the global tensions, all the things that drive the price of gold are all still there.

But we have this temporary low.

And if you look at most market analysis right now, they're saying, well, gold's still going to be climbing to you know, twenty eight hundred into three thousand at the next year. That's all still predicted, but we have to get through this little phase that people are in right now.

The markets are in a phase.

I do think that that bitcoin fundamentally is reflecting true price. I think we're probably getting closer to that, and that really has to do with the amount of bitcoins.

That exist, David.

A lot of people say, well, there's twenty one million bitcoin. Well, actually there's not. There's only sixteen million if you take into account the millions that are lost and will never be recovered, or Sotoshi's wallets. I think that the bitcoin price is probably not too much of a hype, but I think it's hitting faster than it would have been under a Harris win. So we just post election, this is all psychological moving the markets, and I just tell

All the things that drove the.

Prices prior to the election are still there, so it is a time for bargains.

Yeah.

Yeah, Like you said, all the fundamentals that were causing gold to go up. It wasn't going up because of madness of crowds and popular delusions. It was going up because the fundamental things that were there, and it had been a long term thing. It was just starting to come up a little bit faster. So it's a rate

Yeah, it's Black Friday early and all. This is really just fundamentally it's profit taking people that held positions and a lot in the paper markets, especially for bullion and contracts. They liquidated those contracts after the election results to put it back into the market, and a lot of that's flowing into crypto. The outflows are really coming out of the gold ETFs, the inflows are going into the bitcoin ETFs, and that's the way it's going to be probably until

Because I think this is just temporary.

Yeah, when you look at Lutnik, who is a co chair, you know, it's interesting the other co chair of the transition team for Trump is the wife of McMahon, the guy that did the World the WWE wrestling.

That's mcman.

It was his name, McMahon or yeah, McMahon. Yeah, it's it's a what a joke that anyway. But I guess during the transition period, that's where you see the president's change into address or whatever, you know, change their clothing, and they have a transition period during that they turn into something completely different. They identify as a different gender maybe,

Well, absolutely, And you know Larry's has been a black rock, has been a huge advocate of the bitcoin ETFs. I mean really they started it and has been pushing it behind the scenes.

He's also anti gold.

If you notice there's comments that have come out over the years, Larry think it's criticizing developing nations for gold mining and gold activities and things and getting away from the dollar in the traditional financial system.

It's interesting.

I think that again the bitcoin's being pushed by and you have to just kind of shrug and take this as with the information, with what you will.

Because again I was at Nashville too. I watched that Robert F.

Kennedy Junior talking about, you know, if he was elected president, he would buy order the Treasury to buy five hundred bitcoin a day until it hit about eighteen percent of the world's bitcoin reserves. Trump followed and said that he would make bitcoin a strategic reserve asset for the United States.

That's what the bitcoiners call.

Game theory, where around the world other nations start hoarding bitcoin and using it as.

Strategic reserve asset. I do agree with that.

I think that that's one way that you can do it electronically. But forgetting about precious metals and forgetting about the role that gold has played throughout history, I think is really short sighted and it may be a head fake. It's a lot alongs with JP Morgan Chase and what they've done with silver, shorting the silver market over the years, and they're you know, you go dig a little deeper and you find out that JP Morgan Chase is the

I don't think that's going to go away. It'll be a part.

And I think bitcoin if if it continues on this trajectory, David, and it's interesting to watch. If it continues on this, it will I have I think a rollout.

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A lot of the expectations of even people that have been in the bitcoin space since twenty sixteen, like I have. I'm really surprised, I said earlier on previous shows. I think, you know, one hundred thousand dollars bitcoin was in ranged by the end of the year, We're going to reach that we were at ninety two thousand and some change yesterday, just within striking distance of one hundred K for bitcoin.

Again, that's just about supply. It's about what's.

Moving into the ETFs and about liquidity, and that will drive price.

How long will it last? I don't know.

I think a lot of this is just market euphoria based on again, just based on psychologies.

Nothing else.

Nothing changed on November fifth, except the expectation that there will be different policies in January.

We'll see, I agree, and I think what concerns me and I talked about this on Monday, is the different policy in terms of the green stuff. And so we see Musk who became the world's richest man by exploiting

Did somebody say Hegelian dialectic. Yeah, it sounds like that's what's happening, isn't it. Here's there's we have a thesis, we present the anti thesis, and.

We have synthesis. And that's really what's happening here. You know it's a thesis.

I think it's feces.

That's even better.

But you're right, and nothing again, the technocracy knows. No party understand that you're inside the twenty thirty agenda decade.

That's right. They've been pushing since the opening in this decade. I'll never forget. You know.

I opened up your show at the beginning of this decade and it was, I mean fireworks right right off the bat. Trump had assassinated the General Solemoni, Iranian General. The hashtag was world War Three's right prior to COVID nineteen four, and we have not the pace has not slowed down since then, all these rollouts, and of course we got the left right paradigm in this country.

Again. The fundamentals for all the reasons that you.

And I talk every Thursday about finances and parallel economies and being outside the system, all of that is still there.

It just comes in a different guys.

It's coming in a different face, a different form, and it could be public private partnerships, which again fascism is exactly what that is. So I don't trust any of these people, you know, David. I'm concerned with those who went out and voted. And I said this on my show on Halloween two weeks ago. You know, I said, the most important thing out of this election, if there is a difference, it's going to be in foreign policy. If Trump really means what he says about staying out

I don't agree with them. And it seems to me we're singnaling.

If I'm looking at these cab this cabinet pick and what's being rolled out, it looks to me like we are preparing for some sort of kinetic conflict.

That's my take.

That's right, And I think so Waltz as well, Ratcliffe as well, heg Seth. All these guys, you know, big belligerent. I mean, they sound like Lindsay Graham when you listen to these people, and and I think, you know, it was already in the cards pretty much that we're going to join Israel with a war against Iran. So that certainly is escalated to all this stuff. But then the question is, you know, they've made real belligerent statements about China,

Historically it has, right, Yeah.

Right, And that's why I think a lot of this stuff is just still on sale. These countries, the bricks nations especially that are wanting to get away from the dollar system.

Not even war.

I think it's going to stop those cross border payments and trade systems and being outside of sanctions, you know, nothing really. I mean, Jerald Salente's right, when all those fails, they take you to war. But that looks like what is happening. I mean, they're planning it. I don't think it stops the d dollarization. All the fundamentals are still there. You know, they're just setting up this is a different I get different regime, different operation, same goals.

Yeah, that's right, that's right.

The value of Russia's gold reserves hits a historic high. They're not changing what they're doing based on the election. I don't see any change of that. They're going to continue down the same path. A historic high. In October, the share of goals international reserves for RUSSI went up to thirty three percent. They said the value of gold holdings grew by almost four percent just last month, breaking

So I think the amount of Russian gold I think it was at two hundred billion, is it like thirty two percent of holdings. It's like two hundred billion is the number that they're holding. And you know, if you dig a little deeper into the holdings of gold by these central banks, David Once, you'll find this A great majority of them are still evaluating. Based on the Bretson Woods Agreement of nineteen forty four, it's still thirty five dollars an ounce. They have not reevaluated. I think they're

Nothing changes.

The fundamentals are all still there, and we can float for a little while and you'll see prices to go up and down, and they'll be all over the place.

But in the long run, gold winds. I think gold winds.

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In terms apply game, especially in this decade, there's there's no escaping in them. There's going to be They tell you what they're doing. They're doing a great reset. That's what they're signaling. You're inside. There were five years out from their milestone and their goal of twenty thirty, and all those things that we talk about every week are still there.

That's right.

You know, I look at it, and you know when you look at bitcoin, gold and silver, you know all of that is a reaction to the creation of fiat currency. And yet the other thing, and of course the cycles that are there that you know, the debt cycles and all the rest of the stuff that they have built up. But what is different for the physical metals is that it gets you out of what I believe is being set up as this technocratic trap. You know, I think it's a net, it's a web, it's all these different

That's right, some real silver dimes. That's that's true. I mean, if you put it's funny and because gold it just is what it is. I mean, it's Warren Buffett criticize. It doesn't do anything.

It just sits there.

Yes, but against fiat currency it keeps and holds its value. And even you know, if you look at the S and P five hundred and other indexes, golds outperform many of them and has stayed ahead of the curve ahead of inflation, you know, and you get mirrors in many ways. It mirrors the debt accumulation of the United States and the price fluctuation.

So gold's just a safe haven.

Gold is money, you know, Gold's not I don't claim it to You won't find the word investment anywhere on any of my websites. I don't use that word. I don't advocate gold or silver as an investment. But what a gold and silver are money. Fundamentally, they are stores of value, their stores of energy, and that's going to be more and more. I think again, the price is going to be really surprising to people over the next five years because I don't think folks really understand the.

Debasement that has gone on.

If you study this every day like I do, and you look at the just the sheer numbers and the currency creation that's gone on, and of course the debt that you and I talk about, the trillion dollars it's being accumulated every what sixty days now. If you go by the new math of everything, that's everything that they're doing, and then you look at institutions. This is part of the fourth turning, But institutions are digging in their heels.

And you were so right. You know, Congress authorized the Fed.

Congress can defund, the Fed, can audit, the Fed can end, the Fed can do what it likes, because it's not part. They didn't do an amendment to the Constitution. As a matter of fact, I can't believe that nobody really ever challenged that. I mean, if you look at the Constitution of the United States, and only Congress can coin money and it has to be gold and silver specie, and that nobody really ever took that took that to task.

You know your history.

Look at the end of the last fourth turning, what happened in the new financial world order that was set up at Breton Woods in nineteen forty four. We're on the cusp of a new financial world order. I don't think that king dollar will reign supreme for much longer. It won't be tomorrow or five months from now, but inside this decade we'll see massive change. And again we'll look back at some of these prices and the gold and silver will look extremely cheap.

I promise you that.

Oh yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, Karen pull up the picture for this, the Great Kentucky Horde, two million dollars in Civil War era gold coins discovered. I saw that. I thought, you know, that's a couple of interesting things. For the first of all, that was two fourth turnings ago.

We had the Civil War.

When everything changed, everything was reset and what was real money then? You know, what was it the greenbacks that Lincoln was putting out there, put on income tax on people all the time. Was it the Confederate fiat currency, the Confederate money that became famous, you know as worthless? Or was it gold that was what they were really looking at? And so they found this a stash of Civil War gold now worth two million dollars, and of these coins that they've got there. But you know, I

It's just a part of the human story. And the more I read on the history of gold, the history of the monetary system, it's just going to be with us. I mean, you can get into the cyberspace all that you like. I'm in it too, and I do love bitcoin, and I think decentralized cryptocurrencies are fantastic and they should be. You should learn how to use them, you should do all the research you can because it's a part of our future in my opinion, but nothing will ever replace physical gold and silver.

It'll always be a part of our.

Story, and it's a way for you to be like, you know, if you really want peace of mind, you know, have you know you want to store of value? To me, physical precious metals, no counterparty risk whatsoever. That's my first choice. That will always be my first when I look at to me, gold is cash. You know, if I've got a one ounce gold coin, I know that I can liquidate that at any time or I can trade it. But I've all I got a store of value right there,

And that's eventually the game runs out.

And you know, the average lifespan, as I've said many times of a fiat currency is twenty six years, and we've doubled that here in the US, and mainly because we are the reserve currency of the world and the rest of the world is still using dollars. But after losing the petro dollar, David, we lost that in June, nobody said anything.

Those countries like.

Saudi Arabia, like China, Russia, they are starting to use other means to purchase and all crude oil and to denominate them in their own currencies. So that's eighty percent of all the energy transactions in the world go on in dollars. That is declining as well as well as usage of the dollar. So all that stuff's going to matter here and it may not matter tomorrow or during this happy days are here again market that we're seeing that, I you know, I kind of shrug and say, that's

Yeah, it's just it's the sort of thing I know from my past experience. I get burned with the dot com bust and stuff, and I thought I was playing it safe. I thought it was I was investing in the companies that were selling the switching equipment. But everything went down. And so you know, when I look at what happens with the market, and I know that it's the madness of crowsing and gets swept up in that,

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But that I can do as a reserve. But that's I can't guarantee anything else after that.

I mean direct sales will I mean, if you look at the first quarter of twenty twenty, David we after the lockdowns on Friday the thirteenth of March. After the lockdowns, it was six weeks out to get a silver delivery.

People forget that.

And if you ordered a significant amount of silver, and I was down to just ordering silver dollars and things. That's how tight the market got after the lockdowns in twenty twenty, and then it, you know again towards the spring and into the summer eased up a bit, but we've never really recovered.

From that point in time that the variety isn't what it used to be. And so I do caution people.

I mean, if you're on the fence about getting into precious metals or just accumulating a little bit at a time, look at the prices now where they are, and you know, get some something physical in your hand, because I don't know how long it will last where you can continue to get supply and when the prices go down like this, people hold, so there'll be even less supply. It really is, the precious metals business is anathetical a lot to economics.

It doesn't always reflect supply and demand.

I mean there's been times when you couldn't buy any physical silver because of runs on the you know on physical silver, like the Reddit raiders that did that back in February of twenty one, and you couldn't get any physical silver, But the price went down the next day in the in the spot price on paper because they sold off one point five times the annuals supply and paper stock in one day, so they drove the market down.

Yeah, so I would just that's what the paper stuff is forced to manipulate. And you know, that's what concerns me is because these guys who do the securitization, the tokenization, all the rest of the stuff. I mean, these guys, they're the manipulators who brought us the real estate market crash in two thousand and eight. They're constantly manipulating everything.

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Thank you very much again. Tony Ardban at Wisewolf Gold and you can get there through David Knight Goald lets him know that you're coming through us. Thank you so much, Tony. We're living in interesting times, and I think things are going to get real interesting, real quick next to next few months. I think it's going to be really great.

That old Chinese curse, it just continues not to disappoint in this decade, David.

Like I said, it started out with a bang.

We have been running, I mean, full steam ahead into Agenda twenty thirty. That's what I want to continue to remind people of. And even in these little you know again, a lot of times, it's a blessing to see these psychological shifts and markets and things that gives you a pause, gives you a time to think and take in a breath. But we're going to get right back I think in twenty twenty five, right back to fundamentals.

I have my show next at eleven am Central time.

I'll be on my Twitter at Tony Rderburn and Rockfin and Rumble on the America Unplug Network. And I think I'm going to just meditating yesterdays driving up from Texas up in my Brandson office today and I was thinking about a book that Pat Buchanan wrote back in twenty and eleven called Suicide of a Superpower and the subtitle was will America Survive to twenty twenty five? And he asked all the big questions, you know, trade, deficits, actual deficits, currency, culture.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're living in some very interesting times that are coming up. And you know that's the Chinese proverb. The other thing too, is that, uh, they're they're you know, they build their their picture characters. They build them out of different concepts, right, so they're their thing for for crisis is opportunity and danger. And that's really kind of where we are right now. We've got opportunity and danger and it's not going to change. So we're gonna take a quick break and we will

We'll be right back.

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