All right. Joining us now is Jason Barker. Is great to have Jason on and Jason's been a regular listener. You see him in the chat areas there along with Angry Tiger. The two of them set up Nights of the Storm. They've got a website, the Nights of the Storm, and they have been real active in terms of setting up a community, and so you can go there and you can see schedules for a lot of different programs. You can see a Guard's Liberty, Conspiracy, many of many programs that are
out there. They've got the schedule on a daily basis. And of course the two of them not only have the joint program, but they each have individual programs and Jason's is the Foxhole and he's also got a substack and Jason
I saw these articles about three D printers and ghost guns. I thought they were excellent and I think it's something that a lot of people need to know about because as we start to look at what is going to be happening in the future, I think it's very important beyond even the ghost gun issues and what the government's reaction is to it. But it's also important, I think for people to understand maybe the three D printer, and we might need this
to be able to print a lot of different things on our own. Who knows what the future holds. But thank you for joining us again, Jason Barker, Thank you, Jason. Good to be here, David, and real quick, I just wanted to extend greetings from Angry Tiger. I talked to him this morning. I wasn't sure if he was going to be on with me or not. I saw he was c seed on the email, so I contacted him and for some reason, he didn't get your email.
Oh, I've had that happen too. You were talking about free speech earlier, and I've had your emails go straight to my trash. Oh okay, it doesn't happen that often. I think I made an exception for it now, but just another way they censor us. Okay, Well, we would love to have had Angry Tiger. I know we will in the future, of course. Angry Tiger's also got his Tiger and Snake Report financial report that he does as well. But tell us a little bit about your experience with
the three D printer. You got a series of articles on substack, and first you talk about you know, the nuts and bolts really of caliber, the printer and all that, but then you start to get into some of the gun issues with it. But tell us a little bit about your experience just in general with a three D printer, because I think people will have other uses for this over and above a gun. I mean, it's a legitimate use, but there's a lot of legitimate uses for three D printers.
Tell us at atle bit about your experience. Oh. Absolutely, I've made all kinds of trinkets toys recently. You know what a ring camera is, right, I've got a blink because a blink doesn't require me to have a monthly subscription to be tied to something. You know, after your initial free one runs runs out, then you can just run it and save your videos on your computer at home. And I made a nice little holder for it where it's fits up real nice in the wall. A lot of utilitarian things
you could do with a three D printer. And you know what got me into the ghost gun thing was I'm looking at this attack specifically on the Polymer eighty pistol, and it is a non serialized kit you can buy online. And you know, I was like, well, you don't need to do that, you could just three D print it. So where I see this going in the future when it comes to gun control is that they'll start regulating three D printers and it'll take that, you know, that valuable tool that
we have that we can use for making replacement parts for your car. All kinds of stuff that'll be heavily regulated in the future if we don't nip it in the bud. Let me interject here. You're talking about little things that you did. My son likes to he's got three D printers. He's worked with a couple of them over the years. He did this little stand for the coin that you did, the David Knight coin that we use here, and of course we ship that if anybody buys the coin now. But he's
he's done a lot of things. You know. You can find a lot of stuff that people have done that are very simple, you know, like to take lids off of jars. They are very simple things like that. But it's just kind of fun to print up some of the stuff, and some of them are are very useful, and so some of it's decoratives, some of it has some functionality. But there's all kinds of things that you
can do with it. I think it's going to be very important in the future in terms of being able to keep your vehicles running, being able to get car parts off of that kind of stuff. Of course, they'll also come after us for fuel, but assuming that you can get the fuel somehow, and maybe we'll need to have a three D printer to be able to print some of the things you need to do for the fuel as well. But you know, and of course they'll arrest you on the road for having
a vehicle on the road. But if you got some kind of an off road vehicle or something like that you want to keep it running, you probably have to three D print your own parts. I mean, we're going to see a lot of things like this. You might want to three D print your stuff that you're using to grow your own food, some things that would help you with that. But yeah, tell us a little bit about the calibration experience. You got one that was kind of a low priced printer,
and you were able to get this thing working. Was involved in a lot of tinkering. I mentionined, right, well, the printer I got it's you see it. I don't think can see it behind me, but it's under three Neo. Into three Neo is made by Creality, and it's uh, you can get it for under two hundred bucks. I think I paid one hundred and sixty five for mine. And right out of the box it was great. They give you a couple of little test files to print to
make sure it works and everything, and it worked great. Uh. The problem came down to when I started printing parts that needed to fit together, and the learning curve is so steep, so steep, like you've got to watch all these videos and you know, print inside walls before outside walls and layer thicknesses and to get a functional part that you know, like like with a three D printed gun. Right, So that's what kind of I really wanted to get into it and kind of dispel the myth that you could just
go buy a printer and start cranking out guns. It's it was very difficult. I found a series of videos. I put them a separate substack article I wrote on just calibrating the printer, and it'll it'll kind of run you through the steps and take me about an hour or two hours something like that, and then you'll have something you could print functional parts with. So that was the first challenge I had was getting the printer to actually print correctly.
Yeah, and it's a very slow process. You point out it took eighteen hours to print one thing, and I know my son has done that as well, and he's printed some interesting things with like you know, something's got like a little ball that's freely rotating inside of it, and you know you can do some amazing stuff with it, but you know, you have the problem that it takes a long time to do it, and you get a power interruption or maybe you know, the thing comes loses its stickiness in contact
with a with a base there, and now the whole print is righted and it keeps going and wasting material wie. So there's a lot of practical issues and learning curve whether as you pointed out, oh yeah, and then depending on the material because there's a variety of materials, and even who manufactures the material plays a big role, and how much is going to scort out the nozzle and stuff like that, and what you're talking about the stickiness That is
the worst problem I have is that first layer adhesion mm hmm. And if it doesn't stay stuck to that bed, you could be five hours into a print and it'll curl up on you. Yeah, and that's that's okay,
so frustrating. Yeah, all that time invested. Yeah, so, but you finally got it working and you calibrated it, and you point out that, you know, especially the cheaper printers don't really come calibrated from the factory, so you had to do a lot of tinkering with it in order to get the thing, you know, calibrated, properly, red print some test things initially, but to really do anything that it took a lot of tinkering with it. Yeah. Like I said, the learning curve is very steep.
It was a lot more. I've been interested in three D printing for about ten years and I actually bought a kit years ago. They didn't really have any off the shelf ones you could buy. You had to like put them together yourself unless you had like five thousand dollars to spend. Right. That's what my son did too. This first one was a kit that he put together. Yeah, that's what I did with my first computer. You know, you're getting afforded the computers. I built my first computer from a
kit, you know. So yeah, but you know, they're they're pretty good. Now they come out, they're gonna print. Like I said, you're just printing some some trinkets and toys. Uh. You know of oz a pencil holder. It's gonna work fine, hunt the box, but you know you start trying to get the accurate parts, and especially when it comes to three D gun printing. It's why I said, this is bogus. This is bogus what they tell us that I can go just print a gun.
And another bogus part is you know they want to pretend like it's all plastic and you can get through metal detectors completely bogus. This is this is my slide for my glock. That's all metal. Everything in here is metal. If I were to print this out of plastic, it would explode in my face, even with the nine miled me around. That's based off of Defense distributed Uh a few years ago. He's kind of the guy who spearheaded
this three D gun printing coat. Yes. Uh, he printed a monstrous thing called the Liberator that held one shot of a three eighty smaller shorter nine mil. It was monsterly thick. And I know why he called it the Liberator because we actually air dropped the liberator Pistol on I forget what country it was during the war and telling the people that you need to be armed because that was going to help us in our war effort to have people armed.
And it was I believe it was a three eighties. Well have you ever heard of that? No? I haven't. No. Yeah, it was like we just made a single shot pistol, mass produced him as like stamp metal, and we just air dropped him for the people to have because they weren't allowed to have guns. And so, you know, we recognized back then that it was important for you know, people to be armed, for the populace to be armed to fight tyranny. But we don't do it for
ourselves, which I take it away Elves exactly. Yeah, which we want you to say to your government, but we don't want anybody to resist us. Yeah. I wanted to talk about this because part of this is they talk about weapons of war and why do you need this and why do you need that? Well, I don't know what about the police. Have you seen the swat team? They're we're in the same gear that I wore in Afghanistan, same weapons, same gear, a lot of times better, better
weapons and did. I did a quick search this morning. You want to talk about weapons of war, right, I look to see how many like basically armed people we have that operate internally in the US. Because the US thinks that its job is to protect us from ourselves. It's not true. The purpose of the government is to protect our rights, and then when it
comes to defense, it's people who invade us. Yes, but you know, when you go out looking for enemies abroad, then there are no more there, then you create them, right, and then when we look internally, we're looking for enemies internally and whenever they're not there, they create them like war on drugs, war on you name it, you know, war on education, that's right. But I did some number looking and the police.
This is in two thousand and two, we had seven hundred and eight thousand full time police officers, thirty five thousand full time FBI, twenty one and a half thousand CIA, seventy nine thousand full time IRS employees. That is a total and now granted not all the I R S employees are armed, is about ten thousand. Yeah, but it's going to go up significantly because they're going to make it five times bigger. The Republicans saved us there
where the Democrats is going to make it seven times bigger of it? They yeah, so you know, to put it in context, that's eight hundred and forty three thousand total standing army. That's what it is, focused inward to the citizens. And in twenty twenty one, the year prior, we only had four hundred and eighty two thousand active duty army. Wow, so we had almost twice as many standing army because they're armed in the US looking inward for an enemy to destroy. That's right, and it's and when that's
what it is. It's a standing army. It's what the founders warned us about as a standing army. Yeah, it is. And this war on ghost guns, where I see it going is they started with this and I'll show it. This is the polymer eighty right. I have one Stephan, he's also a listener. He has one. He'll tell you it doesn't go together as easy as you think. For me, it was pretty easy. I had the tools and then know how, I got mine operational pretty quick.
But he's been working on his for like a month and it's still hanging up. And he said that it was besides all the effort to put it together. It was pretty expensive compared to even just going out and buying the new part they should use to make your own, you know, going out and buying a new glock. You know, putting this stuff together was very expensive. Oh yeah, I spent six fifty seven hundred dollars on that.
Wo on that easy to get a gun that criminals would go after. Come on, I can get that same gun on the streets for a hundred bucks, hit two hundred bucks, and I could buy a brand new from a pawn shop, you know, or a gun shop for about you know, five hundred and six hundred tops for that same pistol. So the idea that it's cheap, that it's easy, No, it's not. And then if you're going to three D print your own. I got some numbers here,
what was it? I got a total six hundred and forty seven dollars into the other one. I did an ar platform one that I built that shoots twenty two long rifle. Because I don't want it to blow up on me.
It's a tiny year out. But yeah, you've got a picture in your substack there of you know, what the typical round would be versus a small one that you went with because again, you know, were're talking about something that is plastic, and even though the internal core of this is going to be metal, is still going to be stressing that plastic, so you don't want to blow up. Yeah, there's moving parts and you know there's
stress points. I think the area if you if you're familiar with an AR platform, the area that the buffer tubes crews into was when the early days of printing, these rs that would stamp. So they have to modify the model, they have to thicken it up, they have to use different materials. Some people will get metal inserts to go in there. It's it's not as easy as they make it sound. And the time, the time one hundred and forty one hours of printing time, one hundred and forty one hours.
It's remarkable that you could go that long without losing the first layer contact there. Yeah, well, I mean it was piece by pieces, yeah, right, all the pieces. I didn't have any failed prints. I did have some problems putting it together. That's another thing. The models out there, and this is a strategy that's been used. So if I go out there, you can find a million and one ar style three D models that you can then three D print. Unfortunately, the ones that work are
off the internet. They're gone. Yeah, they have flooded the internet with bad models to frustrate you and take your time and waste your material. Yes, because we've got a lot of people. We got eight hundred and forty some odd people and a thousand people that would do this type of So there's this significant number of them that would be their job to do that. Just flood it with garbage. Oh yeah, if it's for free, I guarantee
you it's not going to work. I did find a free model. It was an old model that had been removed from all the CAD sites, but it was I won't say where it was hosted, but I found an kind of an unusual place where you know, they do videos and stuff, but they can also host files. So somebody was sneaky with that and I was able to get it. And even that one that's been proven people have. I've seen videos where people test fired them, you know, put them together.
Still, everything didn't match up quite right. I had to like mill some plastic out and I had to modify some things. Almost incriminated myself because I built it as a pistol small package, and I have a pistol brace, getting ready to put it together, and I found out that the pistol brace rules had changed. So, I mean, and that's the danger of any kind of gun control. They just changed definitions and make you into a felon and then by default you can't own gun anymore. Yeah. There,
And we talked about that. I think it was Tiger and I might have talked about this in the Foxhole. Is if they can't stop someone from selling you a gun, what they can do is take away the rights of people to own guns. We talked about the three felonies a day, all that
stuff. I mean, well, of course we saw what Trump as he went down to that South Carolina show and they said, hey, look, you know, we got a pistol here with your face on the butt, appropriate place to put his face, right, And oh I want to buy that, And everybody's like, you can't. You're an indicted felon. You know, a convicted felon. Right, we take the guns and do the due process. Later, I thought that was kind of poetic justice. But
that is our you know, that is our system. And if somebody gets a felony, even if it's not a violent felony or anything like that, you lose your ability to own a gun. And so that that is you're right, that is part of the trap. If they can't I get the guns away from people, they can. If they can't stop people from having guns in general, they can take it away from individuals one at a time with their excessive rules, and they just make this stuff up. You know,
the pistol brace thing. That was something that Trump did after he did the bump stock ban, and he kept that going until December of twenty twenty. Started it in twenty nineteen, and they were pushing that through and then he stopped it in December of twenty twenty, and then Biden pulled it in there again to do that. So, you know, he doesn't respect the Second Amendment and he doesn't respect the idea that if you're going to infringe on
it, you ought to at least have elected representatives. I mean, that's been the way it's been done in the past. Now we'll let the bureaucracy do it. We'll do it by executive order. That is it truly is amazing. Tell me a little bit though about you talk to people about how the three D printer printing differs from the type of thing where you would get an eighty percent lower and you would finish it up yourself. How does it differ from that? Okay, and this is the heart of the debate right
now. It's like I said, this polymer eighty or if he you already get an allum them eighty percent ar lower. What it is. It's mostly complete, but the area that houses the trigger assembly is not yet complete, so it's unable to receive the device in which fires the actual round. And that's the controlled part of the weapon, is the lower right, the whatever houses that trigger assembly. It's not that hard to complete them, but you've
got to have the tools. You got to have to know how This one, in my opinion, was really easy, and I can see why they would use this as the test subject. You've got to drill a few holes, You've got to cut out a little piece of plastic. Very very easy to do. But this isn't dangerous, you know how. I know that they know it's not dangerous because you can still buy them. They just have to be serialized. It comes down to tracking and tracing, and that's what
I wanted to talk about. Was this was the target right now? This polymer eighty. They call this the ghost gun, but if you look historically, a ghost gun is anything they cannot track to you currently, it could be and then you'll see them going after this. They're going after private sales. They're going after this so called mythological gun show loophole, homemade guns of any kind. If you have a gun that has a serial number filed off, that's a felony. Well, I mean, it's my it's my equipment.
What other item is there out there that you can't just file a serial number off and it's okay, yeah, yeah, or remove the tag from your mattress, you know, yeah, pretty soon. And what they'll do is they'll they'll use the terms common sense, common sense. It's too close to a completed gun. It should be regulated like other guns. That's the argument they're making. I would argue that there is no constitutionality and regulation of firearms at all. I agree, But people will be like, Okay,
it doesn't affect me. And this is the problem. This is, we're going to see this with free speech, We're going to see this with with everything in our lives. It doesn't affect me, okay, But then they start broadening terms, just like they did with the National Firearms Act. There was a very few items that were on that list, and over the years they've broadened it and broadened it, and eventually it will affect you, and nobody will be there to protect you. That's right. It affects you.
So I'm going after it now. I'm going after it. I would like to see the NFA repealed completely. Yes, And here's the real kicker about the NFA. It's based on the Interstate Commerce Clause. That's how they enforce it. That's their mechanism of enforcement. And I've got this up real quick. Oh you know that's interesting too. You know the National Firearms Act, we're talking about the the FDR version of this, that was based on the Commerce Act, right, and so you know they had that same action.
They put out price controls for agricultural stuff. And guy says, well, I'm growing this whatever, wat's corn or whatever. I'm growing this in my state. I'm not selling it to anybody else says, oh no, that's regulated under that. And they also, you the Commerce Clause to try to justify prohibition of every drug. The entire drug war is now based on that, which is an obvious lie because the Commerce Clause was always there and everybody
agreed that they had to have the Eighteenth Amendment to prohibit alcohol. So we all know that's a lie. We all know that's a prevarication that the text doesn't mean that. That everybody in America knew that it didn't mean that. But then they they come after guns, They come after the regulation of food
as well as regulation of firearms by pretending that it's the commerce clause. And again it turns the Commerce Clause upside down because the Commerce Clause was there to prevent inhibition of commerce, you know, and so it was to keep a free trade within the United States. To say, well, one state is not going to be able to restrict commerce across state lines or in another state. And that's exactly though, how they're using it. They've perverted the purpose
one hundred and eighty degrees away from what it was supposed to do. Well, when they took the clause, which was, you know, regulating is more for foreign you know, that's how the federal government could get their money through tariffs and stuff like that. That's how they were funded. They didn't take it from their people. But when they did the Interstate Commerce Act of eighteen eighty seven, that was geared towards the railroad industry because they went there's
commerce going across state lines. But my question is when it comes to gun control or anything else for that matter, Texas is fight in this battle with suppressors. If I create it, I make it for personal use. There's no commerce going on, and especially if it doesn't leave the state. What authority do you have under your own law to regulate you don't? Yeah, yeah, you know, And I mean the Interstate Commerce Act, which is kind of how they you know, they kind of enforce the gun control.
It's not meant for that anyway. So instead of picking apart little things like oh, this gun or that gun, or a pistol brace or a bumps, now, let's get to the root of the matter and say you don't have the authority to do this in the first place. That's right, you don't. You never did. Sorry I'm ranting here. Oh no, I agree. I don't know. You know, all these candidates now is fashionable for them to say, well, here's the different bureaucracies I get rid of.
I don't know any of them talking about getting read of the ATF. You know, I mean, it's right, you know, come on, start with them. It's such a target rich environment when you started talking about shutting down in constitutional agencies as almost all of them. But you know,
I really don't see anybody coming after that. And it's all just pretend and hypocrisy anyway, because you know, you look at these guys that regular was going to shut down the Department of Education that had just been created in that election year nineteen eighty, that never did it. You had Rick Perry who said, well, I've got three agencies I'm going to shut down. He couldn't remember the third one. It was the Department of Energy, and that's
the one that Trump appointed him to run. So yeah, I mean, it's all a bunch of eyes. It's just amazing. Well yeah, and if we're waiting for a savior like the NRA or these other gun groups, it's not going to happen. And I'll tell you why. With the pistol brace, and this is where I almost tripped myself up on this build. Was I had a pistol brace to go on it. I ended up having to design a different piece to plug the rear. So that it doesn't even
have the tube sticking out. You could do that with a twenty two long rifle conversion. You can't do it with a standard AR setup. But I was able to do that. Well. I thought we were good because the pistol brace ban went into a moratorium. There's more toorium on it because they didn't give the public enough time to debate it. But I got to reading closer and a couple of scholars that I watch online that really are into this stuff. That's where I get a lot of my up to date stuff.
It only applied so you could keep your pistol brace, but it only applied to those gun groups that filed the lawsuit if you were a member before. So now you've got Americans all over this country that think that they're okay right now with their pistol brace, but they're not. And that's another way to trip you up and turn you in to a felon. We know what they did here in Tennessee, Sarah and nicely told me. He said that, yeah, we saw this coming, and so we did it in two steps.
You know. First of all, we said that if something is legal in Tennessee, the federal government cannot make it illegal. And then he said, and then we specifically made the pistol braces legal. So it's a different situation. Yeah, we got some good people in Tennessee's ingenus. Yeah. Well, and that goes to show how these these gun advocate groups will not help you. They're in there. I mean, why would you solve the
gun control problem and put yourself out of business? M M exactly. And we're seeing that now with the pro life groups, right, these pro life groups that have jumped in here. As soon as the Supreme Court said no, it's not a federal issue. It's a state issue according to the Tenth Amendment, which I was saying all along. And as soon as that happened, you got all these different candidates, You got people like Pants and Trump, and you know, so many of them say we need to make this
a federal issue. And they're supported with all of these federal or these national pro life movement groups which want to get their issue back. It took that issue away from them. Yeah, and so they want they need the wedge issues. They'll never be solved. Abortion won't be solved, gun control won't be solved, immigration won't be solved, and the contents were giving us wedgies, aren't they. Yeah. I mean if it comes down to like, okay, you can have these items, we're gonna we're going to give you
permission to observe your god given right. We're gonna give you the permit, but you have to be a member of one of these organizations to do it. Well, that's another tax, isn't it. Oh yeah, that's what it really is. And any permit is uh is a privilege, it's not a right. And so you know all this stuff is is is rigged. I got a couple of comments I want to give to you here. Uh. Paleo Armory says a ghost gunner CNC machine is superior. I don't want
a plastic gun. Trump Burger Forever says palmer guns worked just fine. Your comments about that, of course, is a ghost gunner that is great. If I had the money, I would get one. You can actually go buy a block of illuminum. There's just a block and they've actually deemed it a zero percent lower. So I mean, this is this is how insane
it is, David. They could criminalize owning a block of aluminum. Yeah, certain dimension because it goes into this machine and it's basically C and C. You put your bits in there and then it does all the driving around and it cuts it out. So it's not an additive. It's a subtractive Yeah, yeah, subtractive method of creating it. And they're out and around for a long time. I remember, you know, forty fifty years ago, you know, one of the groups that I was interviewed with, they
had their own CNC machine for making stuff. You know, yeah, and very expensive, you know, especially then, but still expensive. And if they passed this stuff and say, okay, you don't have to register this, you're gonna have to. I mean, think of the drone industry. Okay, you used to be able to go buy a drone and fly it around. Now you got you know, if you go above a in height, if you make money with it, like if you have a side business,
you've got to get a license. You've got to And granted it's pretty easy. I remember when they did that a few years ago, and it was like, Okay, it's like twenty five bucks to register it with us, but if you don't register it with us and we catch you, it's
going to be twenty five thousand. And it was so and it was a weight issue at the time as well, and they did it just before Christmas, and uh, it's all these people starts to wait, you know, if I've got like a little paper drone here and that's that weight limit. In other words, you've made this for all drones and it was an excessive
fine. You know. That's the other part of it. You know, when you have these regulatory agencies, not only do we have a regulation without representation, but we have excessive fines as well because they always have crazy you know, it was I think it was FAA that was doing it, just like you've seen these excessive fines subsequent to that with people that didn't wear the masks on a commercial airline plan er something. They're handing them out tens of
thousand dollars fines as well. Yeah, and the problem with it is is that it's going to be become everything. Everything's going to have to be registered. Everything's gonna I mean, and it's really when you think about registration. You talk about tracking and tracing of firearms of devices. You know, they want to know what divid that you talked about the computer, uh, computers and software. They want to know who's creating this content so that they can
regulate it, they can stop it before it's the Internet. It's it's going to come to everything, and it's uh for I lost my trend of thought. But anyway, we're talking about C and C stuff. I mean, talk about the difference between the C and C and the plastic stuff. You know, as people are talking about it, you know you still can get a lot done with the the polymer guns that they are pretty tough, as you point out some people in the past have you know, it's got some
stress points. Some people would reinforce those with metal and things like that. Uh, but yeah, you're you're it's largely uh certainly uh you know, an all metal one done with C and C would be but it's going to be a lot more expensive. And that's always the case, you know, when you trade off that you've got. Oh yeah, and then you've got to analyze it and there's you know, things you got to do to protect
it. But what I was going to get to, I got my train of thought back is they always sell this stuff on protecting and they'll do it on the backs of children. Yeah, they won't look into the SSRIs, they won't look into the breakup of the nuclear family, the corrupt school system. They won't look into any of that as a potential problem. It's the gun, right, it's the gun. We have to track the gun. Okay, now, we have to track the thing that can make the gun.
And it's got to be tied to you. It has to have a serial number. And then so if I want to transfer it to someone else, which you can't do with a homemade gun, it has to be destroyed when you die. You can't even transfer to your children. That's how ridiculous it is, is that right? I didn't know that. So if you do, you do an eighty percent lower and you build it all lot you've got. That gun's got to be destroyed when you die. Yes, it cannot be transferred by law. Oh man, I tell you what this is.
A this is great. Yeah, A bunch of traps, isn't it? A bunch of traps that they've laid for people? Uh? And as we see with a Biden and Hunter, you know, as many people have had lots of regulations. They're like a spider web that traps the small mats,
but the big bumble bees go right through it, don't they. Yeah, Well, let's and let's talk about you know, the big bumble Bee because on its space gun control, uh was the National Firearms Act came about after the Sat. Saint Valentine's Day massacre and that was a mobster thing. Again you have government. Yeah, they created the problem with prohibition, that created al capone in other gangs, and they those preferred type of weapons that
they wanted to use is what they threw in there. You know, your tommy guns, your short barreled shotguns and rifles for concealability. That's why. Because people wore trench coats back then and they didn't want to have them concealed. So now do you see people in the kind of clothing where an SBR short barreled rifle is going to be concealed? So why why is it still there? So at the point is that, you know, they created the problem. You know, when they ended prohibition, you would think that they
could take that away right now. And here's the here's the real kicker. It wasn't illegal to own any of those items. There was a tax, Yes, it was a two hundred dollars tax. That's what everybody doesn't realize when they start talking about you know, David Koresh and the branch Davidians. You know, they came after them because they had not paid a tax.
That's what it was, you know. Yeah, yeah, Well here here's if the thing was really to stop al Capone, which is kind of funny because if you look at the Saint Saint Valentine's Day massacre, there's a lot of implication that the police were involved in that, that they were getting retribution. So it was kind of like something that they either set up or allowed to happen, like a false flag. And then they imposed the gun control. But here's the thing. If the point was to stop Copone from buying
these things, well it didn't. All it did was imposed at tax and I did the numbers on it. I looked at the height of al Capone's worth. He could have still legally purchased thirty two thousand Tommy guns. So except we know that he didn't pay his taxes. We know he didn't pay his taxes, so that's how they maybe that's how they got him. But I mean, is that really going to stop Was that meant to stop him or was it meant to make it prohibitively expensive for the everyday citizen because a
gun back then was twenty to forty bucks. Mm hmmm. So you know you're talking about y'all one thousand percent mark up five hundred thousand percent market. Mm hmm. Yeah. My son says the Valentine's Day massacre quote unquote was a drive by shooting out loud fully automatic guns. And that stopped drive by shooting once and for all, didn't It sure didn't have that anymore. You know, it's interesting when we talk about the short barreled rifle. I've talked
about this so many times. You look at the Miller case. This is a guy who was They came after him after that. You know, it came out for having a two sought off shotgun and he had a criminal record, and you know, there's other things involved in it, like they try to set people up. But he actually died before the case got to the
Supreme Court, and they continued on with it anyway. It should have been a moot case, right, but they continued on with it anyway without anybody arguing the other side to push that whole thing through, So, you know, very very dubious. And of course they use the sought off shotgun trap to get at Randy Weaver and other things like that. You know, it's just and that's the way you see this stuff happening all the time. I got some other comments here. Let me run to you. Jason so Bogus
says, three D printing isn't great for manufacturing. It's just really cheap and easy, and a machine shop has everything. Having a three axis milling machine and lathe allows you to make anything. Adding C and C to a mill isn't a huge expense. The mill is the big expense. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And if I had the money, I would own a metal lathe, a good sized metal aid, and a mill. I definitely. I seen this video. It's a six or seven part video.
This lady she made her own like old Western revolver from scratch using a mill in a lathe, made the barrel, made the cylinder, all that stuff, really really cool stuff. But the three D and that's something that that's a good point. Three D printer is fast and cheap. You know, it takes a long time to print, but still relatively fast and cheap. And the other side of that argument, people will say, well, you
know you could three D print and metal now. Yeah, he got twenty thousand dollars a year to lease a machine, you know, to make a gun I can go get for a hundred bucks off the street. Seriously an argument, and and and you know they're not to the same quality as a forged piece of steel or a you know, milled out aluminum the way that if you look into how they do it, there's a lot of resins and stuff that hold that stuff together, so it's not going to be nearly as
strong. I got another questionnaire. Chad Warren said, could you buy a three D printer and have a business like how you see cell phone repair? That's an interesting idea. Yeah, there's a lot of different things that you could do with it, you know. And you know, if you were talented in terms of doing three D stuff, I mean you can make some little tools and implements, some things that might compliment what you want to do at home. You know, that's that's the key thing. And of course,
as you point out, it's getting materials. You know, that would be one of the things that they would probably like you plant outlaw a zero percent lower you know, won't be able to buy an aluminum block or something.
You could do the same thing with the three D printed stuff. But you mentioned Cody Wilson earlier, and he put this out directly as a challenge, and they took it to court and they said, you know, they tried to outlaw the instructions on how to do it, and so he said that's a First Amendment issue, and the courts agreed with him on that. Yeah, they also reached out to the because he was leasing the printers and by the way, he was using like industrial printers. This wasn't something that
he had a you know, a home kit that he put together. This was an actual professional machine because back then, you know, to get a decent quality product, you had to have a several thousand dollars a year lease machine. They actually went contacted the company. Of course, that's what the government does, right, They use the industry to enforce their edicts, and
they they canceled his lease on that machine. There's a really long documentary on the defense distributed that I don't know if it's still out there on the internet, but it goes through the whole story. And of course they I guess he had some past history that they try their character assassination next. Yeah, you know, yeah, I had some accusations about sexual harassment or rape or something like that, which is again you look at it and you can cynically
say, was this the Julian Assange tactic? You know that they're coming after somebody with Yeah, and again I don't think that they were able to get a conviction on that, So that's that's probably what the case was. Yeah, And you know, the like the way did it they took away his machines or they had the industry take away the machines, and I guess they got other machines from somewhere else. But they like to use these choke points,
and you talk about it all the time, the choke point. And if the three D printer is they can't regulate the three D printer, then the choke point will be the material that you buy for it, you know. I mean, even just the idea of going through a background check at a gun store is a choke point of sorts. And they're using a private business to enforce it. That's right. And I remember back in Obama's in twenty twelve or so, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, when all the AMMO
was gone and you couldn't find AMMO. It was crazy expensive, And I asked my friends, I said, Okay, we're in the military, and we know law enforcement uses the same weapons platform as we do, which are weapons of war? They want to say, right, two two three? Right? Not two two three, Rather a NATO five five six round nine millimeter forty five. There's only a handful of calibers because they standardized it, right, They standardized all the weapons systems. That's why we have NATO rounds,
so that we're using the same as our allies. So why was it I couldn't find twenty two long rifles? How come I couldn't find three eighty? How come I couldn't find you name it at hollow points. We're not allowed to use Holow points, So how come the Holow points were gone? The government bought up all the AMMO as a choke point to keep people from
buying it. And I remember when they were doing that with Obama. He also it was like I think it was Fort Drumm, if I remember correctly, in New York, and they were a part of you know, the military cells recycled brass out there, and they just said, we're not going to do that anymore, and they started crushing it and selling the CD the crushed scrap metal to China at a fraction of what they could have resold the you know, the recycled brass for Oh yeah, And that's typical in the
Army that when you go to a range, you know, so you fire twenty thousand rounds with you know, your whole unit, you've got to pick up all that brass and turn it in and they weigh it. So number one, they don't want people pocketing rounds and taking it home because it is a common round. But also, you know, they don't really want you reloading it either, So if you don't come into a certain weight on your spent brass, they won't let you turn it in. You've got to go
out there and hands across America looking for bran. It doesn't matter. I think you'd be all like ten years old and nasty. You just got to make that weight. But yeah, that's something that they do. And I'm surprised. I watched a pretty good documentary on the military had its own animal producing facilities, So it makes no sense to get rid of the brass because you can just send it to your facility and make new rounds. So I really don't get it. Yeah, Yeah, they're up to something with that.
You mentioned as you're talking about it, you said, you know, working on this thing is a real passion. It's like the people who the mechanic that you know fixes up a classic car or whatever, or they set up a car for racing on the track or something like that. Uh And again, I think that when we look at the different issues with it, you know, when we learn skills, that is something that is really vitally important. Any skill that you use may be something that you could use as
you know, barter and trade and that type of thing. Uh And and I think any of these types of skills, once you learn three D printing, I think it's got a lot of different uses that you could use. And you know, it might wind up, you know, doing things that that would help to keep cars going for example, or some you know, temporary replacement parts of me. Some of them are going to have really high heat and I'm not that familiar with the different plastics to know what they can
really take. But still some of the comments we've got here, Jason, we've got Risha em says, well, they pull another Waco or Ruby Ridge over homemade guns. I imagine if they get widespread and off and if they start improving, they probably would. I mean they'll they'll do it over anything. What do you think there are saying that specifically with this polymer eighty. I's reading articles on it, and they say that crime is on the rise.
It's gone up, you know, five thousand percent. It's like, okay, so you had one used in a crime, and then this year you had two used in a crime. They like to play with those numbers to make it seem like some kind of an epidemic, right, And I'm sure that they're hiring hobbyists of the Mexican drug cartels too. I get their ammunition stuff up right, Yeah, they've probably got a factory cranking these things out and then they fast and furious it over the border so they can find
them after crime has been committed. And so it's the ghost gun. It's the ghost gun, that's right. Yeah. Narroway and Narrogate Ministry says, yes, two hundred dollars tax stamp and the right for the government to knock on your door at three am to inspect and search your home for weapons of automatic nature. Yeah, that's it is always a trap. Always wait for them to certain themselves in our life. Radis Bro thank you for the tippy, says, it's called Print the Legend, and in it you learn a
lot of these machine companies have ties to Chuck Schumer. M. Wow, that's interesting. Any interesting Harps three three eight l M thank you for the tip, he says, So we lost or gave up our firearms here in Australia. So what is this? And he's got a link to used guns dot com dot AU. So I don't know. I can't see that link there, but I see that it's coming out of Australia, So I don't know about that. Oh, Harps. He's got to sell some firearms.
You can find him on YouTube shooting some pretty beastly. He's the kind of shooter and likes to reach out and touch something one kowa. And that's another thing. Another argument they make is why do you need so many guns? Why do you need ten guns? Well, they're purpose built, you know. I've got I don't know, maybe six or seven ars here. Why do I need more than one ar? Well? I don't if it's if all, I'm only shooting one round, but I got one that's in three
oh eight. I got a twenty two long rifle. I've got a five five six. I've got one that's a shorter, more of a home defense. I got one the longer barrel, you know, for hunting. I don't want to hunt a smaller game. There's lots of reasons. And you know what I find out, I find that it's none of your business how many guns I own, you know, yeah, oh yeah. Some people
are collectors, some people are hobbyists. Me, I got so many ers in that particular kind of platform rather than buying a standard hunting style rifle, because I like to build them. I'm a tinkerer. I love building things. That's why I like the three D printer. I like to work on cars. I do woodworking. It's just a hobby for me. You know. Well, it's like, you know, the c forty organizations, these these cities and it's now over one hundred of them, start out about forty
or so. They make it their business to tell you how many articles of clothing you can buin in a year. You know, they don't want to. They want to make sure that you don't have more than three articles of clothing, and you don't eat any meat or dairy that you don't have more than one trip under one thousand miles every three years. Whose business is that? Everything as you're talking about, these guns is all really fundamentally about controlling
and watching and surveilling everything that we do. And that is why it's so troubling. As I was saying before you know, you came on, you look at the conservatives that are out there and saying, well, we need to get rid of the people's anonymity by you know, you got this group that signed on and support of Hamas, and we need to know who all those people are so we can put them on a black list. It's like these are conservatives, or at least you know, people who call themselves conservatives.
You know, people like Dirshwitz at Harvard. I don't know how conservative he's ever been, you know, but you got other people on Breitbart basically saying the same thing, on Daily Wire saying the same thing. It's just fundamentally comes down to where they are on a particular issue, and they're more than willing to sacrifice our fundamental rights and to ignore the Constitution if it is
something that they radically disagree with, oh one hundred percent. Yeah, And the whole thing about the gun control side of it is it is track and trace. That's all it is. Yes, you know, as much as they want to tell you this is illegal, this is illegal. No, it's regulated. It's regulated. They want to be able to track. That's why they're going after private sales. They're going after they say there's a gun
show loophole. It's really private sales. You know, gifting. If I gift you say, hey, David, I'm not using this rifle anymore, would you like it? They want us to go down and do that transfer. So they have a paper record, and it is about tracking and tracing that I only care if it doesn't have a serial number or they don't know who owns it, and why would you do that? There is there is default, there's a de facto registry. I covered it in one of the
foxholes. I believe it's just paper. They're they're forbidden to have a database that does that automatic searching. But they can track guns from the place of purchase to the person, so it's already there. The registry is there. With the missing piece is the guns that they don't know where they're at. That's why they're going after ghost guns, homemade guns, private sales, you name it, and then they want to fill in that database and they do
you want to go electronic with it. I had a video on it where they were complaining about, you know, it takes us so long to do this, and we're thirty two thousand things a year we get or whatever that they're still sitting in a box that we haven't. It's crazy. They do have a system that were prohibited by law from having an automated system. Yet they're pushing for an automated system. Yes, and it's about taking the guns, that's right. It's not about anything that has to do with regulation.
Registration is pre crime, one hundred percent is pre crime. So they're going to tell me that I can't own this or that because I might commit a crime with it. Well, that's not due process, you know. Yeah. I just saw an article. I forget what they called it. I was I didn't have enough time to talk about it today, but I saw it on zero hedge and they were talking about, you know, financial transactions and how they could do voting electronically, and we can, we can.
We don't have to spend the time trying to track this stuff and authenticate what we'll do is we'll authenticate you, and you know, we'll be able to have providence on this. We'll know where it was created, who created it, where it's coming from, so we don't have to spend a lot of time authenticating this stuff, and it'll save us so much calculation. Thing. And I looked at it and it's like, well, this is just a I forget the term that they used. They're saying, Oh, this is
going to be great. We're going to use it for all these different things. And it's nothing more than the CCPA, the Coalition for Content Providence and Authenticity that Microsoft was putting together for the federal government, where they would mark anything that you do, just like you're talking about marking the gun with a serial number. Every content that you put out, whether it's a meme or whether it's a substack article, or whether it's audio or audio and video,
all of it would be stamped by your computer. And they've got a coalition between the hardware companies, the software companies, as well as the gatekeepers for what we're allowed to say, like the New York Times and BBC and other people. They brought this all together so they can register and control speech everything that they want to do is just like the CBDC, everything is a passport, everything is surveillance and registration. That is the society that they want us
to live in. And that's why it's so important for us to start learning these skills. It'd be great if we had anybody in the government that wanted to oppose this, anybody who's running for office. But nobody even wants to talk about that. The most we get there's a couple of candidates who've talked about CBDC, but they're all just ignoring this issue. Well, and you know, this is a first The gun thing is a First Amendment thing, like you said. And look at what they're doing in Canada right now.
They're trying to make you register a podcast, you know, and they start off with, okay, you've got to make so many million dollars dollars a year and then you've got to get a business team, you got to register with them. I mean, it makes no sense. I understand over the air, FM and AM because there's a limited number of frequencies, so you don't want to be stepping on each other, right, But the Internet, that's not a problem, So why would you need to regulate it? It's
just their way to get their pinky toe in the door. And once that happens, they start broadening. They start broadening it. Okay, now it's if you make more than a thousand dollars a year. Okay, you don't have to make any money at all. If you have a podcast, you have to register with us. And then they start kneeling down the speech violations. And think about this, David. Everybody everybody now has something that they've
said or put on Twitter or Facebook or something. They if they start broadening terms of what is hate speech and they want to put you in jail for it, what's to stop them from retroactively going back ten years ago about something you posted. They've got all this stuff there bluffed dell Utah and other places where the MSA is storing everything that everybody's ever said or done, you know, and it's like, okay, fine, you know. Permit record was
what Ed Snorden called his his book that he wrote about that. We've got just about three minutes. I want to say thanks to Chad Warren, thank you for the tip. He says, thanks for having a calm vibe on your show. Compared to info Wars, I could never get into that here on fire vibe much of the consternation of Alex who wanted me to, but that just wasn't I couldn't fake it. So it's just how I am and also super fague. This is a comment from when we're talking about church.
I think there was one church open in rural Texas where I live, over one hour and fifteen minute drive. Needless to say, my husband and I found our new church that way. Well, good for you. And that's the key thing. You know, we've seen that happening. It has been the lifeblood of people. How if you got a church and you don't think
it's essential, especially when there's a pandemic. I mean during a pandemic in the past, you know, when there really was a plague going around whatever it was, everybody was, you know, the church people who were serious about what they believed. They were looking at an eternal perspective. They weren't concerned about whether they're going to live or die. They were concerned about whether or not they're going to be there to help other people. And so that
was a really key thing. I think a lot of people realize, well, these guys are just playing at it. They're not serious. I've had a lot of people tell me that, well, I'm glad you found a church, but yeah, it is. This is a key issue. Second Amendment is always a key issue, and this folds together a lot of things, and of course we can see Jason, that ultimately comes down to controlling and monitoring, registering and surveilling everything that we do. Everything just keeps coming
back to that, the passports and all the rest of this stuff. It truly is frightening what they want to do to us. And we have to take initiative, as you did with a three D printer, to make sure that we've got some skills and things like that, because it's going to be a mixture of black market and other things to get outside of their system. I think, yeah, I wanted to say, super Fae, if you're driving an hour and a half the church, that's great, because doing the
right thing is going to take sacrifice. Yes, fighting against free speech is going to take sacrifice. Growing your own food is going to take time. The government doesn't want that. The government wants you in your pod eating bugs and rely on them for everything. They don't want you to talk to your neighbors. They don't want you to know your neighbors. Maybe you can get together in the metaverse, you know, where you may be talking to a
computer that's spying on everything you think. I mean, we have thought crimes. Now, we have people standing outside. Were you praying? Were you silently praying? Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well they let people run through the streets making all kinds of threats against other people. Thank you so much for joining us again, Jason Barker The Nights of the Storm. Check out their show as well as their listing of everybody. Thank you, Jason, appreciate it. Thanks Dadd