All right, welcome back and joining us now is Joel Skousen. Always great to talk to Joel. I like as he's got a very original take on things, and he can back them up with information. Of course, you'll find his newsletter and you get a sample of that, I think at World Affairs Brief dot com. He's got a lot of books to tell you where to select a strategic location to live in the United States to which is getting more and more important. He's been doing this for quite a while. How
to build a secure house, and many other things. You can find those books at joelscousen dot com. Thank you for joining us. Joel, good to talk to you. David is always good to be with you. Thank you. We're living in interesting times, aren't we. As we were discussing briefly, and as we're getting you put on here, he said, while we look at what is going on in the house historical day, as we have the speaker for the first time thrown out Speaker of the House, first
time that's been that's happened. What's your time take on all that? Well, and for a very good reason. The only reason he got to be speaker after fifteen votes was that he made some very specific promises to the Freedom Caucus and especially the hardline Conservatives as part of that caucus, they aren't totally unified. But he broke those promises in the April deal with President Biden where he passed that on the spending bill which was way over budget and didn't consult
the conservatives. And so basically Matt Gates, as leader of the Hardliners and the Freedom Caucus, said if you don't stop this, if you do it again, we're going to oust you a speaker. And he did it again. And Matt Gates in his press conference wasn't a formal press conference. He
just gets besieged by the press as he leads the House chambers. And after his our debate with the Chamber on the motion to vacate the chair, he outlined very specifically again as he did before the House, why he is voting to vacate the chair. Number one, Well, in general, he's talking about violations of the regular order of the House. The regular order of the House is that you have the twelve bills appropriation bills passed through committee, and
then you have debate, and then you have amendments. So you allow amendments to those bills and then you pass them individually. And he was complaining because they were running behind schedule. McCarthy wasn't in a hurry to get this thing done, and Dates requested that he canceled the August recess. He said, we don't have time for six weeks to take off. We've got a deadline September. We've got a lot of hard knocks to go through this. McCarthy
didn't do it. He allowed the recess to go forward. He also has instilled a four day work week. A four day work week when you're talking about a huge backlog of an appropriations bill, and that means they start at six pm on Monday and they quit on Friday, and that's essentially a four day work week. And Gates was complaining about that. But here's the specifics.
McCarthy promised that he would never be a bill presented to the House over one hundred million dollars without the possibility of amendments, and he violated that on numerous occasions, refusing to allow amendments. He said he would never use the Democrats to provide a majority over the wishes of the GOP majority. If he
did that on the Ukraine funding bill. He passed that with the majority of Democrats voting with the minority of Republicans to pass the Ukraine funding bill, which didn't make it obviously into the main bill, and McCarthy created also a secret side deal with Biden over a separate Ukraine spending bill that would be done. Basically says, you know, both these border tightening regulations and the Ukraine spending need to be a separate bill. You don't want to put these in an
omnious bill. They're very controversial and they need to have an up or down vote from everybody on those two specific issues. And this goes to the problem of the omnimous bill where you lump everything together and then you make everybody vote yes or no on the entire bill. And so if you want to you know anything at all and you're agenda, you've got to vote for the whole
package. So omnious those very bad. But in any case, there were seven or eight total Republicans that voted to Alice McCarthy and they got their way. I was surprised that McCarthy said I'm not going to run for speaker again. Before he left the speakership. He appointed Pat McHenry of South Carolina to be the Speaker pro tem, and of course he's a up to McCarthy, and he immediately said, well, we're not even going to vote for the
next speaker until October eleventh, which is a full week away. I played a clip of McHenry. He was really trying to break the gabble when he's lammed. I don't know if he saw the picture of him, and he says, well, a lot of jerms, and he goes with all his might trying to hit that thing was. He was pretty angry about that. I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, the Gates was very unhappy about that.
He said, you know, we don't have time. We've got to put together another bill and resolve this thing is by November seventeenth, when this continuing resolution ends, and so he said, you know, we've got to go to work right now. We need to have the election this week. Gates is suggesting Steve scalise As, who is the GOP majority leader in the
House right now, as the replacement for McCarthy. I think Jim Jordan, although he was opposed to this vacating the speakership and he's kind of happy with McCarthy because McCarthy his word, he did give conservatives major positions on the committees. That's about all that McCarthy did is gives conservatives major positions. So Jordan was head of the Judiciary Committee, very powerful committee right now relative to the
impeachment of Joe Biden or the impeachment investigation. But he's still I believe, would be a good speaker, as well as Steve Scalies. Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. And again, you know, wall Street's take on this is that it increases the change that there's going to be a shutdown in November, but you know, maybe it won't be quite as long, you know, more than two or three weeks, but they think that will happen now because of the delays that will be involved with this.
But you know, I talked about this earlier Joel and I was looking at I had a little bit different take on it because of what Thomas Massey said. I played the clip for people what Thomas Massey said there. He is part of that team that negotiated regular order with McCarthy, is a condition of his speakership, and he said, look, I voted to I'm the only person here who voted to remove Bayner, who voted to remove Ryan. He says, I'm not voting to remove him because we did get back regular
order to a greater degree. Said, yeah, we got a lot of things happen that we don't like here. But you know, you'd had the situation with Pelosi and Bayner and others who had put in these omnibus bills and ran everything from a centralized speakership through a very tightly controlled committees and people are not allowed to make amendments from the floor, basically shutting down the rules of order, Roberts rules of order, whatever, you know, the regular order
that would allow people to participate in it. The whole thing was tightly and centrally controlled, and that was the key sticking point, I think, and all that, and he felt like things had improved in that direction and that they keep going in that direction. But you're right, it now has turned this whole thing into turmoil. And you know, Chip Roy had had pushed very hard for that, Thomas Massey had pushed very hard for that, and I you know, they both voted to keep him in at this point in
time. But of course we have Nuke Gingrich now very upset about this, and I played a clip for people just to remind them where Nuke gingrig has been. It was a political ad that was done by Ron Paul back in twenty eleven when both of them were running for the GOP nomination, really kind of defining what a flip flopping snake Newt Gingrid has been. And his point is he said, well, you know, we've got these rules and so Matt Gates needs to be kicked out. Forget about what the people thought who
elected him. He has violated the Republican Party rules, the rules of Republican Conference, and we need to kick him out of Congress for doing that. What do you think about that? And what do you think about what Thomas Massey had to say? Well, you know, I have a good deal of respect for Jim Jordan and Thomas Massey and Chick Roy too. They are voting in fact for the fact that they did get good committee assignments on this
and McCarthy did come their way. But my response to Massy would be, but remember he only came your way in terms of allowing amendments or allowing the regular order on easy things, on all the things that were the tough issues.
He went over to the Democrats. So he betrayed you on all the crucial issues and only gave you the easy stuff which you didn't really need, you know, and well you need it, of course, but they weren't the crucial things that are sticking points like border regulations in the Ukraine vote, etc. But you know, New Gingrich is really a snake in the grass. He's a globalist, I believe you know. He got elected with his what was a contract for America and I think it was a contract on America
basically. And as soon as he was elected, the first thing he did, did he pass anything on the contract with him? And not a thing He went the World Trade Acceptance of China, red China into the World Trade Organization WTO. That was his first issue. It was a total globalist sellout right from the get go. And you know, he has played both sides of this issue. He's really a very slick operator. So he has called for Matt Gates to be removed from the Republican Conference, which is the conference
which decides a lot of these issues, et cetera. Now I'm not a big fan of Matt Gates in terms of his moral conduct. He is a party guy, and I don't think he's been necessarily moral in his you know conduct, But he's really a good debater. He is a person who really laid down the issues to the press as clearly as anybody on the violations party. And you know, to remove him would be I think a big mistake. We need somebody who would be a big right out there. I think
it'd be a big mistake to buy light. It's as well, you know, we don't like him in the party, so I don't really care what the voters think. I mean that the biggest mistake of it in just in terms of a precedent that they'd be setting to remove him for that. Yeah, well, you know they are having an ethics committee, and this was kind of McCarthy's threat over his head. It's interesting that McCarthy said, after he was Gate, said I'm going to put in a resolution to vacate the
chair. He said, well, go ahead and try it. You know, just McCarthy was defiant. He really didn't think of it passed. I thought perhaps, you know, maybe even the Democrats would come to the rescue of McCarthy because he'd been so helpful to them, but I think they voted in favor of watching the Republicans be in disarray rather than rescue somebody who really
was helping them. Now they're not going to get someone as bad as McCarthy, I believe, and I think they're going to have to go to someone who is a little bit more to the right or they're not going to, you know, get elected. These eight people stuck off anybody from getting to be speaker unless the Democrats want to throw in with the liberal Republicans and really get a very bad person in there. So it'll be interesting to see what
happens. Did you point out the ethics issues that Gates has, and then of course, you know the George Santos has got huge ethics issues, and McCarthy was absolutely supportive of George Santos. So it'd be interesting to see what happens with that. I think one of the things that really surprised me was, as you point out, McCarthy said to Gates, he said, go ahead, bring it on. So I thought, well, okay, he
knows what's going on. He's gonna he's going to win this thing. His inability to read the room, you know, I mean, how do you How are you that clueless as a speaker that you don't know if you got the votes for something like this. I mean, but maybe he's just you know, it's just bravado. But uh, that was one of the key things to me going back to a new Gingrich's Contract with America. I remember
that thing ten point program, you know, Joel. I ran for Congress the next election in ninety six, and my central theme was I said, I've got a contract with America. It's called the Bill of Rights, and here's how it's being It's ten point. It's a ten point solution to what our government is right now. And I said, here's how to been violating every one of those things. I've made flyers of that, but that was my campaign to run for the Contract with America. At the Bill of Rights.
What district did you run in? It was in North Carolina and it was in the Charlotte district. So I did that back and I think it was nine. I think it wasn't where I live, but you know, you don't have to live in the district, you just have to live in the state. And I was kind of the sacrificial land for the third party to run there. But I was able to get into some debates. But you know, it is interesting to see where this is going to go. And I guess the key thing is, you know, is there anybody you
look at the people that are there. You've got Tom Emmer, You've got Scalice, you know, maybe Jim Jordan. I mean, you know, you think it's going to be one of the one of those three. Those seem to be the highest profile of course, you know, the majority leader and the whip, and then Jim Jordan is always you know, out front in front of the cameras. Who do you think might make it through?
Well, I think it's either going to be Scalice or Jim Jordan. Whether or not Jim Jordan will run or not, you know, and lose this position on the Judiciary Committee. I have my doubts. So Steve Cleese is in the prime position. The mere fact though that Gates wants him. We'll speak against him to the people who were very angry with him about this, and there are a lot of Republicans that are angry. But I don't think I don't think, Yes, it's true that McCarthy would have compromised that them
and would have avoided to shut down. But as I pointed out many times in the Worldfare's grieve. We really need to shut down the government in many ways. And you know, they don't have to actually close the national parks, they don't have to close the passport office, they don't have to do any of the stuff that really inconveniences America. Plenty of money coming in constantly to keep those funded, but they need to shut down you know, foreign
aid. They need to shut down any money going to Ukraine. And you know, I'm not against We've talked about on our program before, because Russia faked their own demise and put Ukraine into the boundaries, or put the Dome boss and crime into Ukraine to give them an excuse to invade at some future time. I'm not in favor of letting Putin get away with that. You
know, we need to supply arms to keep that Ukraine from falling. But I'm not in favor because of the corruption in the Ukraine, of any further actual funds going to Ukraine, whether to pay the salaries of other people or to pay for their deficits. You know, no money for Ukraine. It's just too corrupt. This leftover from the Soviets because when they faked their own demise, they left all the Communists in the bureaucracy, and that's why they
continue to exact bribes. That's why you had Booty's mind. All the former presidents of Ukraine have been corrupt and you know, secret buddies with the oligarchs in Russia. It's a very bad situation. But there's plenty of ways to cut funding. And I realized you can't get you can't cut social security and the welfare thing that they'd screen bloody murder. But there's plenty of things that you can cut that don't hurt most normal people and keep the government in limbo
while you hammer out these things. But we've got to stop this going under. Yeah, you look at the plan that Republicans came up with when Biden says we've got to get eighty billion dollars more for the IRS, an agency that's now getting thirteen billion, and the Republicans said, that's crazy. Only sixty Only a sixty billion dollars. We won't do it to be what is it seven times the size, We'll only make it five times bigger than it
currently is. And that's the kind of stuff that just makes my head spend with Republicans, It's like, what is the just just a little bit less government than the Democrats want to give us. And of course you talk about the corruption Ukraine. Even Bill Gates said most corrupt country on Earth. The Pentagon is even saying we got so much stuff that's you know, we sent to them, that's leaking out everywhere. This is a big problem Ukraine is
getting. I mean, the UK is getting tapped out in terms of you know, it's a war machine, in terms of sending them stuff. And this is all highlighting something I think that is an even bigger fundamental problem of the West, and that is the erosion of our manufacturing database to the extent database our manufacturing base and infrastructure to the extent that we can't sustain some kind
of a big war effort. What do you think about that, as somebody who follows us much more closely than I do, Well, we can certainly ramp up like we did in World War Two and start to produce these things. Whether or not there's a will to do that. There usually isn't until
you get attacked. But you know what the speed at which you know, attax and come now was clear missiles instead of just ships across the sea coming towards you like happened in Pearl Harbor, which of course was provoked by Roosevelt. This was a false flag operation if there ever was one. But yeah, we have the manufacturing capacity to do that. And I mean even in strategic minerals for example. The only reason that China has a lock on the
minerals is they've undercut the prices. We used to produce all the strategic minerals in the United States out of Nevada and parts of California. We have them all in the United States. They just aren't as economical to produce unless China
decides to cut it off, and then we could start producing again. But I think that both the West and you know, can come up to speed, and they are ramping up, you know, in military production in order to provide the arms for Ukraine. The big problem in Ukraine is this triple layered defense system that while the Ukrainians were waiting for American tanks to arrive, you know, four to six months, the Russians built this three tiered mind
trend system that is very difficult to penetrate. Now, if they had strategic bombing. As the West has the capability, you could obliterate that line. You could blow up the entire minefield so that none of you could drive right through it. But they don't have strategic bombing. All they've got is artillery and high mars and other types of things, So they have to slug it out trying to get through that line. And I don't see Ukraine doing that.
I just don't think you're without strategic bombing, that you're going to be able to penetrate that line. Now. Neither do I see Russia being able to take anything more than the Dome Boss of the Crimea. So I think this is a war of attrition that's going to go on as long as the West continues to provide military arms to keep the artillery and the rockets supplied. I don't see think Russia can win, and I don't think Ukraine can win. So where this is going in the long term, I'm not sure.
But I'll tell you Conservatives have really been snookered by Putin, who has been putting on a propaganda show about being anti LBGT, pro Christian and all these types of things to convince an anti New World Order, to convince the West, or at least the conservatives in the West, that he's going to save
us from our own globalists. And it isn't true at all. It's just as Treble out and has pointed out from New Zealand got a very good series of things showing that this propaganda moved by the continuing Soviets as I called him in Russia, has been very effective towards getting conservatives to be pro Russian rather than Yeah, it's kind of a Hegelian pr move because is again, you know, the West cannot control their contempt for Christian conservative values, you know,
no matter even though they see Putin doing this, they can't bring it upon themselves to pull back at all from the Rainbow flag or any persecution that they're doing with people, or the pronouns or any of that kind of stuff. So they're tone deaf or they're defiant about that, and so that leaves him a strategic opening. You know, you're talking about the mine fields and everything. I saw a thing the other day of a thing called spider boots.
Maybe you probably know about it, but the audience probably doesn't. And that's their approach to trying to cross these minefields. Just how crude that was, And all it is is just a little elevated platform they put shoes on, and it has like four extended prongs and a steel plate underneath it, so that if you step on one of these mines, the explosion is not
going to be directly under your foot in your leg. It will be maybe a little bit in front of you or you know, and it will be directed somewhat away from it's still going to really, you know, severely injure the person, but maybe not take their leg off and have them bleed out immediately. And I thought, that's the best they've got. Here's some spider boots, go walk across that my field. It really isn't the best they've
got. They have the flailing machines that go in front of an armored vehicle that extend out about twenty or thirty feet and it's a big rotating series of chains that flail on the ground, set off the mines and it doesn't hurt the change when it blows up, but they can drive right through a minefield. Just that Ukraine doesn't have very many of these, Okay, all right, Yeah, it seems to be a real sticking point. As you point out you know, it's a very complicate things in terms of the amount of
minds that they've got, and it seems to have really stuck them. But I guess it's because they just don't have enough of that machinery and they don't have the strategic bombs to take out those fields either. Yeah, it truly is amazing to see see how this is progressing, and of course it is escalating. And that's one of my questions to you. As we see Russia. You've said for the longest time that Western elite want to invite a nuclear
strack that is part of their long term plan. We see Russia doing civil defense drills, and of course civil defense has never been really a concern of the American government. We're going to have an emergency broadcasting system thing happening this afternoon. But you know, so what is it that you would tell people, because that's something that you cover in your books. Strategic location, and
that's a factor. You know, Now there's other aspects to strategic location, which is the breakdown of society, and you know, the Soros district attorneys letting people back out on the streets, criminals back on on the streets. We're seeing that kind of violence escalate, but also proximity to nuclear targets is part of strategic relocation and then your secure home and other aspect of this.
So people can find those books at Joe Scousen dot com. Tell us attle bit about, give us little bit of advice, as the best we're going to get is maybe an emergency broadcasting system I call on our phone. Well, there's a lot of hype now about the five G test that's going to
come out at two pm. And there's been an awful lot of hype around the internet about five G. And one of the most I think spectacular falsehoods is being promulgated is that five G can somehow trigger little nanomachines that have been injected with the vaccine and create havoc in your body. Well, you know, that's really a lot of hype in my opinion. First of all,
five G cannot trigger any biological device. It can destroy things if you get too close to a five G radiating source for too long of a period. It can destroy biological process but it can't trigger any biological processes. I have a son who works in the cell phone industry as an electrical engineer, and he does testing on all of the five G, four G and three G you know, cell phone technology and their towers for radiation frequency, et cetera.
And you know, he admits, yes, there any EMF can be dangerous if you have a very strong rating source up against your brain, you know, for a long period of time. But they're very carefully interesting enough.
He says that five G, by the way, because it is a higher frequency, has much less power, takes much less power to transmit than four G, much less power than three G, which is at a lower frequency still, and so actually the radiation effect is lesser in terms of damage because of the lower power of the transmitt Now that said, if you've got an apartment and across the street as a building with a five G antenna ratiing riding in your apartment, that's too close. Yeah. Yeah, And what
we've seen in New York is exactly the same type of thing. They started putting it up in neighborhoods and people, you know, wake up in the morning and there's this thing right next to their window, right next to the window of their kid in the in the cradle, and they look at it and it says this should be located at least ten feet away from somebody whatever they call the uh they call the people and said, hey, this is what this tag says on here. Can you come out and do something about
this. They came out, they removed the tag. I'm serious, that's a true story. You know, it was reported by the New York Posts. I think it was. But you know, that's the total disregard that they have for people. And of course the other aspect of it is that, you know, different frequencies, of course, affect us differently, and we don't really have a lot of data about five G. You know, the only EMF biological research that was really done to a large extent was Alan
Frye, who was doing it for the Navy. And you know the fry effect that they found your people hearing clicking noises and things like that at different frequencies. But different frequencies are going to affect you different ways. To me, I see droll this this five G stuff going out. I see it being done in the same way they rolled out of the vaccine. They're just contemptuous of any particular health effects. And we'll figure that out down the road,
but you know, we've got to get this thing done. Right now, so just going to deal with it. And that's my concern about all this talk about the test later today. I think, you know, there's very real concerns about how five G is going to be used. With a broader band and more capability of carrying data. It's going to be used for
surveillance and control purposes. That's a given. I'm also concerned about the lack of health information about these things, and I think that you know, the sensational detail that's out there is going to be used to discredit those real concerns about potential health and the reality of the you know, smart city control grid
that they want to establish with faster bandwidth. All of those are legitimate concerns, especially the lack of long term testing and the one tests that have been done unfortunately don't tell us the two crucial aspects we have to know whether or not the tests are carried out properly. Yes, they radiated mice with five G. They don't tell us how far away and how strong the signal was
from the mice. You see, those are the two crucial factors. I can put a transmitter right up against them and fry their brain, you know, within within a couple of weeks. But unless you know that it's been a realistic setup, we just don't know how these things operate. Now, remember that we've now been operating cell phones in the three G and four G now for decades, and we don't have a lot of well or any you know, medical you know, strong evidence of any medical effects of people even
having the cell phone up against her. Now five G is coming in. I don't have a five G phone, but other people do, even though they're not doing a test. We're going to see if holding that phone to their ear is going to have deleterious effects to people. Yeah, and we have situations where they put cell phone clusters close to an elementary school because they said, hey, it's convenient for us, and they said, well, we got some cancer clusters with us. And so you've had some local communities
say, well, you know, we want to fight this. There was a nineteen ninety six telecom act put in by Clinton saying you will not object to antenna locations based on any health concerns, only only esthetic concerns. So if you don't you know, if this is a historical district and we got this antenna there, you can object to that and we'll come out, we'll put a box around it that blends in with the surroundings. But if it's a health concern, forget about it. But a lot of these jurisdictions,
Yeah, this is an important thing I tell people. You know, the federal government can say whatever it wants, but where the rubber meets the road is at the local level, and we need to start standing up at the local level. And we've got several examples and communities where they felt that it was a hazard and they stood up to the telecommunications industry and had them move
those antennas. And so you know that's that nineteen ninety six Telecom Act came ten years after Faucci Shepherd shepherded through that Vaccine Childhood Vaccine Act that gave product liability to the big pharmaceutical companies. So we see certainly a pattern here,
and it is something that we need to be concerned about. But as always, you know, adding false details to stuff, and the people who've talked about it have said, you know, well, it's eighteen gigaherts, It's going to trigger this, and it's like, well, as far as I can tell, eighteen gighurts is not even a five G signal, it's not one of the frequencies that they that they focus on. And then at the
same time, to say very specifically it's eighteen gig hurts. You'll come out and say, well, my concern is that it's all these frequencies it once. It's like, well, these frequencies, all these frequencies at once are hitting you all the time. Anyway, you need to be concerned about the cell phone that you leave in your pocket all day. That's going to have you know, just like holding that cell phone next to your head. Your cell phone is sending and receiving signals, you know, even when you're not
making a phone call. And so if you've got that thing setting in your pocket or on your body all day, you ought to be concerned about that. That's not a wise decision, but it is. You know, there has to be some some context for this and some some wisdom about this stuff. And it is again unfortunate that the government wants to put out stuff like this without doing health tests. But you know, the big issue is and and again you know, fast internet with broad bandwidth is not a bad thing,
it's a good thing. But of course it does enable these surveillance and control systems that they want so they can do real time biometric analysis. And that's the thing that really concerns me is artificial intelligence and how it can be used for data mining and rapid recognition of the biometric data that they have for people. I see AI's threat not as you know, some computer that's going to become self aware like the terminator, but I see it as a very
very dangerous tool of very very dangerous people. What do you think, Yeah, I agree with you on that, David. You know, it's very important to understand two basic things about overall preparation. You're going to first of all, understand what are the big threats coming. So many people get so many concerned about these tiny, small threats. The big threat coming, of
course, is a nuclear world war with Russia and China. And you know the reason I say it is inevitles because all three basic power structures in the world want it. Chinese communists want it, Russia wants it, and the globalists want it. They want it because it's the only way to drive Americans into losing their sovereignty and joining a militarized global government. In order to do
that. Of course, That's why they passed in nineteen ninety seven PDD sixty instructing our nuclear missile forces to absorb a nuclear missiles first strike because they know that Russian and Chinese want to newter the America military and then blackmail US into dismission. They do not want a new cities, They don't want to destroy the infidy. They don't want a new power plants and pollute the land forever they want to occupy them. They want living space because China can't feed their
own people. You know, most of China is desert and they cannot grow enough food, and what is irrigated often gets flooded by the Yanksee River and other rivers. What I'm saying is is that that's the big threat that you ought to really be preparing for. And one of the deterrens for preparation is
the hope of a savior, an earthly savior. Now I'm all for you hoping that God will intervene, but unfortunately, I think we've lost the moral blessings of God because of the corruption of people within our Western society, and this transgender and homosexual craze which is growing by leaps and bound is guaranteeing that we lose the blessings of protection of God. And there has to be judgment
consequences for these types of things. But you know, when you tend to think that Trump is going to save us if only can get reelected, I think that's very unlikely due to the ability to steal the election, as they showed in twenty twenty when, for example, you know, the biography of my uncle W. Clinon Skousen just came out and it's available on Amazon,
and it's very interesting. He ran this great Center for Constitutional Studies and gave thousands assemblers, educated over four hundred thousand people in the United States on the Bounding Father version of the Constitution. And then when Reagan got elected the second term, all of the funding from private donat dried up. Everyone said, well, Reagan's going to save us. And then when Trump got elected, the same thing happened again. Yes, is that, you know, And
when the phony fall of the Soviet Union happened, it happened again. Is that, oh well, communism isn't an issue anymore. And the sale of his famous book that they can communists just drop through the roof because people thought the communists had gone away, and that was a very great propaganda coup on the part of the Soviets to bake their own demise, to get aid in trade and to disarm the West. So it's been a very difficult battle.
But my point as a preparedness expert is that when people have hope that someone's going to come in and save them politically, they will not prepare. I agree, I agree. Can we even see that with gun purchases? Right, Well, what happens the gun purchases, you know, well, Obama or Biden get down and everybody starts buying guns. Trump gets in, all
the gun sales go way way down. They don't even care about that level of personal protection, which, by the way, you know, if there's crime in your state, in your city or whatever, whoever is present isn't really having an immediate effect on that, but it does have an immediate effect on the even that level at the street level. As people say it, I agree with you. So what's happening is that people really need to be concerned not only about five G, which is always in major metro areas.
Five G is not a problem in rural areas that Antennas cannot be close to you as they are in buildings and high cities. You just need to be out of the big cities when this war comes, because, believe me, this war is going to be precipitated by a nuclear emp strike which takes down the grid, and it's going to be down for at least a year because we don't stalkpile any of the long distance transformers that allows you to get the
grid back up again. You be able to start an individual power plant, but it can't transmit across the country without these transformers that up the voltage to go thousands of miles and then down the voltage again to a usable voltage. All those transformers are made in China and they're big as a truck, and we don't have any of them stock pilot except maybe two or three, and
there are thousands of them in the US. So if the grid is down for a year with in three to five days people are going to start the pillage, they'll be starvation. There won't be electricity, they won't the sewers won't be operating, the water system won't be operating, and so you need to be able to get out of the big cities. Now. People are obviously tied to the big city because of jobs. That's where the most of
the jobs are. But I can tell you that when the city's become a mad Max scenario, they're not going to be any jobs and they're not coming back for a long time. And so it's a matter of when do you prepare to leave. Do you want to leave during the chaos of a Katrina hurricane, when all the freeways are backed up and people have run out of gas from the traffic jams, You want to be able to get out of town before that, and that means that you have to prepare an exit plant.
In my book Strategic Relocation, I talk about how in major cities there are beltways freeways going essentially a moat because you can't get across those freeways except in places whether on or off ramps. Now, if you look carefully on Google Maps, you'll see there are at least two or three places to get across the freeway with an underpass or an overpass that do not correspond I repeat, do not correspond to an off ramp or an on ramp. To be
jammed, you need to know where those crossing points are. If you have rivers that walk you need to know where the bridges are and how to get through those things, and map a route that doesn't get on the main roads but uses the back roads. I recommend to people in strategic relocation that if you cannot leave the big cities, at least you get moved to the periphery of the city, get to the outskirts of the city, get to the
suburbs on the edge of the metrol and commute in. Then at least your family has a chance of being the first out without going through all the major suburban areas in the city. Now, in terms of danger, the great danger during any period of social unrest is due to population density. Now there's a major exodus going on of all of the major Democratic controlled cities that have these woke prosecutors that are there's no cash bail anymore. You just release them
and as soon as you the police arrest them. Is very demoralizing to the police. They don't show up for their court dates because they're not having to pay bail anymore. And so we have a major exodus going on from La San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, New York, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Every major Democratic controlled city is having an exodus for the people because of these crime problems. And you know, I wish the Conservatives were leaving too, and
some of them are, like they have left California. What it's done is it's driven up prices in the West, which are highly rated in my book Strategic Relocation because, for example, the Inner Mountain West, the cities of states of Idaho, Utah, Western Montana, and northern Arizona centre there are hundreds of miles from major metro areas and you have to cross deserts and mountains to get to those areas from those major metros, which precludes people from walking
from Nevada to Idaho for example, other things. But the trouble is of the Californias are driven up all the prices in those areas because of the exos California. So now the cheapest areas are still in the Midwest Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, other places like that. The South still has a great deal of some cheap land. But the problem is the South has a warmer climate.
That's why people are flocking to Florida. For example, the Florida is a zero rated state because it's only got two ways out of that state and without electricity. You can see those traffic jams trying to leave the state and becomes very difficult to live in a place like Florida or the South without electricity for air conditioning, et cetera. Oh yeah, I know. I grew
up in Florida without electricity. I know how it was, and I know that that was the electricity that brought made it livable for people to come there. Let me ask you this, though, you know what you're talking about, you know, planning your escape route, making sure you got some bug out and you got someplace to go. But what about the cars, and they're the effect of the MP on the cars is what do you think is going to happen from that standpoint? Since all the cars have gotten increasingly under
electronic control. That's true, there are dozens of computers. You can't hardly even fix a car anymore, or any of the modern cars, you have to have high tech computer reading equipment, et cetera. It's a mixed bang. Nobody really knows what's going to happen, especially with the new super MP
weapons that are being developed. But this much the government has published in their test that it's going to take at least eight or nine weapons around the stage to take down the entire grid, not just one EMP, because there are you've got to blow fuses as you go across the country. So you can put up one b EMP and it goes out, you know, for five hundred miles, and then it dies because the fuses are blown around things and
it doesn't continue on through the interconnectivity of the grid. And so with eight or nine weapons, it means that only Russia and China are going to be able to do that. North Korea or Iran don't have that kind of do those. But under each weapon there's an area about three hundred miles where the radiation is the most advanced, which can really damage cars. But outside that
three hundred miles circle, it's likely the most cars will restart again. Eddy currents formed in the computer chips will maybe shut it down, but you can turn the key off and turn it back on and they'll usually restart. That's what the government testing shows. So I'm not sure where those eight or nine weapons are going to be placed. But here's the basic philosophy. You ought
to have older cars. You don't have to go pre nineteen eighty five to non computerized cars, but that's the best solution to have one of those older vehicles around. But you can even have prior to two thousand and four. And if you get for example, Volkswagen Diesels, they have one computer.
You can buy them cheap and used market. You can have a spare computer you can just plug in if it goes bad, but generally they only have one ignition computer and it's much less likely that they're going to do, you know, fry that car. Those cars from two thousand and four earlier than that. There's a lot of nice cars still available in that range that are fairly EMP resistance, and there's certain things that you can do. There are EMP covers you can put over a car like a car cover, which will
diminish the radiation that gets to the computer chips. You can also put tollroids, which are small round magnets that open up. They have little hands that open up, and you can put it around the cabling leading to your computer so that it absorbs the electromagnetic pulse that comes down towards your computer. A lot of people don't know about that, but they're fairly inexpensive, maybe four
dollars a piece. On the Internet. I cover these types of things in my book The Secure Home, and then you can you can EMP protect your house with Siemens puts on a first surge protector for about three hundred dollars. But you can put on your panel that stops the surge from the power lands, shuns it to ground. It doesn't predict your house from absorbing EMP within the electrical wiring in the house unless you wired your house and conduit, which
nobody does anymore. And so you do have to have individual protector on your computers and other things, but all those are readily available. So and so to have a search protector, that'll be because the electromagnetic radiation would be carried perhaps you know, in terms of a surge, it would the surge going through the power grid would be greater than the direct electromagnetic radiation from the e MPs, is what you're saying. That would kind of extend the effect through
the grid. Well, that's interesting, you know. And of course, so again you know, having a place that you can go to bug out, as you point out, getting on the outskirts of a city, having a route that you can take that's not going to be blocked by the interstate, because that's where everybody's going to go and you're not going to have. And that's the other part of it, is that everybody's getting accustomed to driving
with the maps on your phone and nobody's using paper maps anymore. So you better better run those route so that you know it, or you got a paper map to follow, get to get some pay. I wonder if they even sell these things anymore. Triple Aven does cryptics or something like that. But yeah, make sure that you got some kind of a paper map and
paper instructions how to get out there. But any other things that you would say in terms of an EMP because I do agree that that is most likely as something is going to happen, and we get more vulnerable to it all the time, don't we. Well, that's right, And remember that if you've got a natural gas heating supply that can't run without good power, they need compressors to keep the pressure up in the gas pipelines, et cetera.
Yeah, it's good. So having propane propane tanks as a backup is one thing, but that will only last a certain time, and without electricity, the propane refill trucks won't be able to refill aas it requires electric compressors to refill, the the trucks that come out to service your tanks, and the service stations where you're going to get refills where your tanks are not going to
be operating because they're out of power. I've always seen that whenever there's a storm coming through in Florida, you know, we've lost all the power and thanks so you can't get a refill. So many things to think about with all that. But you know, here's another thing, as we're talking about all these different aspects here, Joel, if they don't do any EMP, they might just go the really, really slow route, which is climate change.
Because all the stuff that we're talking about in terms of taking down the grid and making every making life miserable for us, they're doing that in a very slow motion way through climate measures that they're taking against people. Aren't they do all this you know, missions control and everything VP now even putting out prohibitions and demands for you know, shutting down power stations, which is a
first we've never seen that before. Well. I have a theory though that I think the dominions at the lower level in the globalist conspiracy do not know about the war coming all of the people touting at the wef AI Robotic Society climate change shutting all electric vehicles. They're going to be a world in a world of hurt when EMP comes along. Can you imagine all the people electric cars with no way to charge them who haven't installed a fairly substantial solar system
to do that. Yeah, they're not going to. And it's the same thing with the Central bank digital currency. You see, none of that works without the Internet, and the Internet isn't going to be working when the grid comes down. Even the elite are going to need cash. And so I've been saying in my World Affairs brief if it comes, and it probably will come before the war, it will run concurrently with cash and they won't be
able to eliminate it. Besides, there's trillions of dollars of American dollars everywhere. All the honored, even the elite, you know, are going to need cash because you know, when the electricity is down, cash will be king for a period tame. It'll take a while before gold or silver will get back into circulation because most people don't recognize. My brother gives out silver dollars as tips, and often he gets bell boys and what's this man?
You know, they don't know what it is. Yeah, that's funny. Talk about what happens, you know when you try to prepare and get off the grid. The vulnerability of solar panels to an EMP, well, there are MP protectors for panels, and all it does is blow out the diodes, and you can buy replacement diodes and just put them back in to the back of your solar panels and they're operating. MP will not affect the solar
cells itself, just the diodes. But then you also might have, you know, if you've got some kind of an inverter to to change it over for AC power for your appliances or something like that, that is also vulnerable as well. Right, Yeah, and there are EMP protectors for those two. Transtector Corporation has a full range of solar and EMP things, so this stuff is available. You can protect your systems. It does requires some expertise,
but it's all available online. The most important thing that you can't buy that you have to create yourself is remember that when there's pillaging and refugees and massive social unrest, think Mad Max movie. I mean, it's going to be that bad someday. You need a place to get out of the way, and not just a retreat that's in a rural era, because as they pillage the suburbs and then all of that's gleaned out and they'll start to get
out into the rural communities too. If you have a rural retreat or even a semi suburban home, it's got a basement. I am a very big believer you need to put in a high security shelter into that basement that's concealed so that you've walled off. You've got a fake cabinet that you have to find the door to get in there, so that when people come to pillaging your house, etc. You can just leave the doors open so they don't break in. Go into your high security shelter where they can't find you,
and get out of the way. That's the most important strategy, especially in a nuclear war, that you can put a ten inch concrete ceiling over the top, and in most places that's sufficient to cut the radiation significantly, so that you can survive the radiation. And you know a lot of people give up and say, well, we're all going to die in nuclear war anyway. So I'm not, but you don't die. Fifty percent of Horotim and Nagasaki survived without any protection. Now they wish they were dead. They all
got sick, you see, but they survived. And you see, God only determines you know when you die, and you may live and wish you had prepared. So I spent my life not only try to warn people about these existential threats like the nuclear war that's coming, but how to prepare against them. And I hope that people take my advice and not rely on Trump or any conservative getting elected again and saving us, because even if Trump were elected, even I would not be able to root out the deep because they
control the judges. They control the NSA that would have to get the wiretap evidence on them to present to the judges, and the judges are controlled, they might throw it out. I mean, this is way way too big for electoral and conservative activism to eradicate. We've waited too long. It's really
in power now. So we need to prepare and pray to God and get on our knees and ask not just that he saved the country, which is not probably in the cards, but that he inspire us of how to use our limited resources to be able to prepare so that we can survive, because He will provide away from most people and for a remnant, as Gary North used to say, to survive this. And I think I intend to be part of the remnant, and hope people listening are too. That's right,
and it is going to be something that again should point out. So God has the history of taking down entire nations to show him justice. But and yet even in the midst of all of that, as we see as Israel was taken away into captivity, one of the most hopeful passage in the Bible in Jeremiah twenty nine, which says, yeah, I know the plans I have for you to prosper, not to harm, and he tells them, even though you're going to be in captivity. On the other side of this,
I've got plans for you. And God does have plans for us. The key thing is for us to see Him as our protector and not some politician. That is the trap and all of this stuff. And that's why I try to tell people. It seems to me like they're trying to make him the focus. Just as you know, the Democrats are wildly enough in Congress to say, the Republicans are having a civil war, let's not get in their way. Let us full back, and we'll let them have their
civil war. We'll watch it they are using. I think Trump is kind of the Mason Dixon line. Everybody knows, including the Democrats who are doing it. Everybody knows that they're trumping up these ridiculous charges and they see how corrupt and one sided, and how there's no equal protection of the law, and they know that that works to help Trump. But they're setting everybody up, I think for this massive disappointment. I was just talking about that earlier
today. Joel Tucker was interviewing Victor David's Victor Davidson about that, and you know, and he was saying, well, we'll see, let's see what happens in twenty twenty four. And it's like, don't put your hope in that. You know, there are things that you can do individually. That's why I wanted to get you one to talk about that, things that you can do individually, Things you can do locally in your community and your state. And we don't need to just focus everything and all of our hopes on
the presidency. Because if we do that, puts us in a very vulnerable position. And like you, I don't think that the election is really going to be an honest one. I have thought that for the longest time anyway. And now that we've had this vote by mail stuff which was put in by Faucian Trump in twenty twenty that wasn't taken off, that's now become a fixture of our lives. And so, you know, so that type of
stuff has gotten even more corrupt. I mean, it's gone from control of the ballot and control of the debates, and you not going to have any debates, but you know, they control every aspect of this process, including the final counting of the votes and the stuffing of the ballots, and now they've got a brand new way to do that, and nobody's even talking about
fixing that part of it. And I look at this, just like I said in twenty twenty, it's like I don't know why I'm voting for anybody because all the people that I voted for just stepped aside and turned the government over to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats or issuing orders to me to wear paper masks on my face and all the rest of the stuff inside I am.
I'm kind of done with this politics stuff at this point in time. So I think that's really the key issue, that we haven't done anything to take back those aspects, and we need to understand that if there's not going to be any legal reform of these new institutions that have been put in place and are solidifying around us, that we need to make individual preparation. That's why
what you do is so important. Again, Joelscouzin dot com is where you're going to find the books that Joel, we didn't even get into a building, the Secure Home. I have to get you back on and talk about that soon. But Joel Skauzen dot com to find the books and World Affairs Brief dot com to get his take on what is happening geopolitically. Thank you so much for joining us, Joel, thank you, thank you. It's always good to be with you. David, thank you. Have a good
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