My father was a high ranking Communist in Poland, in Polish government, but I really didn't have much contact with him until I was sixteen years old. Because of the poverty, I had to be sent either to orphanage or to live with my father, and eventually father agreed to take me in. I
lasted the only one year before he kicked me out. But by this time my ideals were shaped by my mother, by my mother's family, and so when I went up there, the first question I asked him, So, if everybody loves socialism so much, which I don't see among my friends but as my father, but what about those people who do not support socialism and communism? What about them? Well? The answer was very quick and sample,
we need to eliminate them. So and the way we say how, Well, the first we're gonna abandonm We're gonna cancel them, We're gonna remove them from society basically intellectually. So it happened. You know, the statues were removed that did not support socialist ideology, the books were removing, libraries and bound but uh but's I said, Well, okay, but what did
they still don't like socialism? Well that is a final solution that we're not just physically exterminate them because they are in the way of progress to socialism and companies there are such a great states. So that was his ideas, my father's ideas that you know, you you try to convince them, but if they don't buy it, you arrest them, cancel them, put them in jails, and eventually that doesn't have you just kill them. All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Drago. And as this navy seal
name, very interesting background. I've had him on before, we talked about his book Pledge to America. Came to this from Poland, and today we're going to talk about some other issues besides his background story. But his background story is truly amazing. How he came to America, I volunteered after nine to eleven, and how he had a pretty old age for Navy seals, became a Navy seal and then continued as an instructor for quite a while.
So joining us now is Drago. Thank you for joining us, sir, thank you for putting biting me. Oh, always always a pleasure to talk to you. A very interesting story. I loved your story and I loved your Pledge to America. Let's talk a little bit. We talked for a great deal time. You said, yeah, I'd like to talk about what is really happening now in America. We talked about your background. You said, I'd like to talk about what is going on now, and of course
a lot of things have happened since you've been on. I would like to get your take on, you know, one of the key issues in front of us right now when we look at something, for example like Ukraine, how are you looking at this war now? I've got so many people have said, well just let me let me get your take on it. What is your take on what's going on with Ukraine? Well, first, our administration needs to stop lying to us. Russians are not losing. The war'sulous
ridiculing Russian forces is totally misplaced. Now, this is the war's propaganda that you can have it? I would right stupid. You know, we have generals, our generals repeating uh stories like that the Russians don't know that they are in the war in combat. They think that the command told them that they are doing an exercise and they are an exercise. You know what I could do? This is being this is being repeated by not only generals but
our best from the left and right. That's that's absolutely not true. And Russians know very well what they are what they are doing, and it is pretty deliberate. They're not trying to take over this time entire Ukraine. They just want to secure their interest. But we need to understand that Putting is not some kind of raw idiot and somebody who doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, remember that's our guy. He doesn't know what he's doing, an idiot, So yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, you know that the
caliber guys idiots. But you know, since they know what they do, they just lie to us and basically they ruin the entire They ruin Ukraine with the stupid advices or stupid stupid moves up there. Lets remember Putting almost single handedly revealed Russian empire. He is supported by eighty percent of his population. And also what we are not being told or we are ignored, that Russia
is no longer communist state. They are. They have the same oligarchs like we have here, like we have Romny, like we have John Kerry. That's not different. So that war did not have to happen. And President Trump is absolutely right. But when we start talking about Ukraine membership in NATO, of course Russians don't want to have NATO directly on their borders. So
there was one of the one of the accelerators to the war. And then please remember there was agreement signed between Ukraine and Russia and then Great Britain, that idiot what's his name fo Joe. Yeah, so that buzzer went in and conciled everything for Ukraine and Russia. So now we are in the war, but agains are not losing. Please remember that Ukrainians lost over four hundred thousand people in combat, the small nation. This is not really something that
you can ignore. So now today the average age of Ukrainian soldier is between four and fifty years old. See, I went to the region quite a few times so and I had a chance to spoke to my Ukrainian friends. I had a chance to speak to I had a chance to speak to my Ukrainian friends, Polish friends, Germans, French and the consensus people who are there who understand what's going on is we are in the wrong place and the wrong time. I agree. The very beginning of this you talked about how
many Ukrainian casually they had. I remember very beginning of this there were some Indian generals who were talking about the military aspects of it, and they weren't on either side really, they were just kind of third party observers, and they said, it looks like the plan is to fight them until the last Ukrainian and that appears to be the plan. They're using these people as surrogates. We had Chris Christi when he was running. He said, well,
I think that's fine. You know, look at how how much we've cost the Russians. I think we need to double down and do even more of this stuff. I mean, it's like they have absolutely no regard for human life. They have absolutely no concern about a broader, escalated war. And I think that, Yeah, this administration, with their advisors and with their ideas, ruined Ukraine. Please remember, the Soviet Union is no longer a socialist state. They kicked out communism to the curb a long time ago.
Now that is, and the large contribution to this is coming from President Putting. He basically make Russians free again. Yes, there will be always five to fifteen percent of society, just like in our society that will oppose and they will revolt and they will not agree with what I'm saying. But in general he is supported by almost or over eighty percent of his population. And
you can see it. Russians love their country. But we must also remember it is very important and I think what it is very important that Russians are very patriotic. Yes, they yes, their idea in their society is Russia first. Well, yeah, you try to say America fairst you see what happened. This is howwards it is. And this is why we just trying
to bring NATO into this conflict. Now. I think it's totally ridiculous and it seems like this administration is gunning for the war, for the major wider war, sending troops Ukraine right now is basically fighting by our regular units fighting Russians, and that this will lead to escalations and they will lead to major war not only in Europe, but they might just we might have find a track in our own soil. So we need to understand that. Uh.
And again Russians don't hate their country. Yeah, Russia. And this is something by then administration doesn't want people to know. Another thing about this company is food Control Food Food supplies. Please remember that Russia, that you mean Ukraine is known as a food by bread basket of Europe. These fertile grounds can fee the entire Europe and still served with so much surplus that is being
sent to Africa. So I was just I'll look it up some of the statistics here, and most of these lands are no longer owned by Ukrainians. They owned by Western entities. So somebody is vaging for control of the food supplies in Europe. So let's take a look here. The Kernel Company owns by Luxembourg, registered in Luxembourg, owns three hundred and sixty thousand hectars, not acres hectars. The company is owned by ninety percent by Oligar I think
Varensky his name and other US banks and funds. Ukra yuker Land farming. No one knows who owns it, but there is almost sixty six hundred seven thousands of acres. Nobody knows really who owns it because all financial data and service were destroyed. Hp Cypress Company with three hundred and forty thousand hectors, TNA Corporation Corporate US Company with two hundred thousand hectors, NCCH Company, US Company with two hundred thousand hectors PIF Saudi Arabia, Astrata Holland from Holland.
So most of the majority of profit does not go to Kiev. It goes. It's being transferred overseas. And if Ukraine would join Western would come in closer ties with Western countries. Those lands would be controlled not by Ukrainians, but would be controlled by whoever is trying to gain control of food supply. Food supplies for Europe. Can just see how the structure. Ukrainians don't own it anymore, most of it's owned by overseas and profit goes overseas. Again,
we are President Biden. I was listening to his disastrous state of the Union and he says we need to send money more money to Ukraine. That's only imbecil can say, because not understanding that Ukraine needs not so much money as people to fight the war. I guess, like I said earlier, their average age of the average age of Ukrainian soldiers between forty fifty years old. They don't have enough. They are actually snatching people over the street and
pulling them in the army. Keyts old people. So the average between fifteen and sixties. So think who is that. That's just a median. What's the oldest people right now? Snatched into the army and serving, so they the equipment even if they get it, they don't have people to to to to operate this unless this is US Western entities that comes in and there and hopefully they are not the regular forces because it will escalate. But it's not bluffing. We are and we have nothing to back us up. We can't.
We cannot sustain prolonged expanded deployment to Europe. We can barely barely sustain what we have now. And now please remember too that our recruitment is down and they were the people are army. There's not only Army that we were so widely publicized, but it's also in the Navy and air forces in Marines. So now we have one side with very patriotic crow crow to their country.
People are Groscians who will not back down, and we have here people who refuse to fight for our country because they were told in universities and schools that were racist, We are bad, we shouldn't have rest and that devision which was created recently within the last for eight ten years, dividing us again between black and white and between this between that. You know, when I remember when I joined the Navy, the first thing that we were told this
that we all have one color. It is right, white and blue. We don't look at each other on black, white, yellow, pink. We just were red and blue. This is color of our hearts. And we have only one country. So now think about it, how I don't think as very strong as very strong now because we have in our Congress we have people who have no loyalty or very or double loyalty to have a loyalty to American, Somalia or other countries. Yeah, why we have people with
dual citizenship in our government. Yes, that's what I'm saying. We do asseves and you look at what is happening at West Point. I talked about this yesterday. They want to get rid of duty, honor, and country. And it's like, qu's wrong with those three things? Right, We're
going to replace it with army values. And one of the things that they say, and that is well, you know, even more as much as the duty, honor, country, is the fact that the original pledge or what motto whatever it was, of but it was a paragraph that they had this the cadets memorized and in it they were saying service to our country, you know, in the army, and that's through the army or whatever. Now it is service to the army and to our country whatever. So it's
more focused on this bureaucratic institution than it is on serving the country. To me, that is as significant as the fact that you'd remove duty, honor, and country. I mean, what what which are those words? Or is it all three that the objectives? I'm not really sure. There's a trend. I think everybody can see it now, all the universities and even the academies. Yeah. Yeah, remove any national collision, collisions, remove
any patriotic feelings. Basically what I think ultimate goal is just what happened in Europe. And I would just come back to it in the second to get rid of the citizenship, rid of national pride, and basically we're just dwellers, so we will not be Americans living in America. We will be just the dwellers living in America. And when I had a conversation with German friend, so when we talk, well so you Germans, is like, don't
say don't kalas Germans, this is offensive. I'm European, A member of European German is a right doing propaganda and right doing term, so you must not count the German. I'm offended. So yeah, did you see our direction to what is going here? Pretty much the same thing. So this
administration is disastrous. But I would like to say, because it really bothers me, when I look at my country, my America, I see that never in the history of civilization has endation declined more economically, politically, socially, militarily, immorally, and globally over such short span of time as the United Sates of America. Science Biden to Gofie, I mean, think about
this is happening. We have a pervert in our schools, Paul, dancing to our kids and reading them books schools and libraries, perfect pornographic books. Yes, and if you speak again that you're the extremist, exactly you have. You have a man masquerading as women, frequenting our daughters, wives, bathrooms. You know, tribes on the zebra doesn't make it a horse. You can put the wig and lipstick on yourself. You are still man. You still have X. There are difference between X X and x Y chromosomes.
You can't transmute one in to another. So you either were men or women, you cannot. There is no thing transition. You don't transition to anything. Just where the wig and lipstick. That's it. And want us to believe, want us to believe that you are a woman. You know, it becomes superverted, so sick that nowadays young generations, boy recited to my son, or before you start dating a girl, you need to ask have you always been a girl? Because I find out that there's not the
case, and you just ruin your life. Yeah, so somebody wants to see I fought for this right. If man wants to go and wear the dress, lipstick and a wig toalk himself women women, more power to him. I don't really care, you know, but start harassing my kids in the bathroom when he when then when we start pushing the mutilation on our children and the surgeries, the sex change and life out there in surgeries, that's
evil, that's pure evil. So it is interesting. I just talked about it yesterday that the suicide rates double after there what I call their vagino plasty and everything, and and that was part of the irrationale for taking away parental rights. Well, we're gonna do. And you know, the parental right its attack has been there for a very long time. It was nearly twenty
years ago. I was doing videos for the Children's Health Defense Organization as a spin off called parental Rights dot org, and they were trying to get in a constitutional amendment for parental rights because the UN had a Convention on the Rights of the Child and every other country on Earth had signed on to it except for the United States. But in the United States is being pushed through with activist judges and at some local political levels, and that didn't happen, But
now it is happening. You know, that has been there cooking under the surface, and they've been kind of subtly preparing things and now all of a sudden, boom, it burst onto the scene in a very rapid expansion. And it's been there for quite some time. They've been talking about, you know, all this, even going back before the rhetoric of Hillary Clinton, and it takes a village. They've been working for decades on undermining parntal rights
because they wanted to get up straight to the kids. It is wild step at the time. Yeah, but what happened at the whole process accelerated because these guns, that cabal was exposed by President Trump. They don't have much time. People are waking up, so they need to do as much damage as possible. The damage that may not be able may not be able to undo. And again this is not Democrats versus Republicans and vice versa. This
is good versus evil. We have plenty of evil in both parties. For example, Murkowski, Roumney, Liz Cheney, that did swallow Well sleeping with Chinese spy, with the prostitutes, and he is still in our government, so we have a for me. He is as good as a spy, you know. So Swallowell who sleeps with the Chinese spies prostitutes. We have a Schumer, We have a Jiades in our Congress, like Omar and Clibe.
We cannot move forward to fix our country until as as long as we tolerate evil, and those are evil, there's more of them, I agree. Before we get any further, I want to talk to you about the border and things like that. But before we leave Europe and Ukraine. You know, we've looked at this and from the very beginning I was saying it. Gerald Slinty's a regular on the program was saying, you're not going to beat Russia. I mean, they defeated Napoleon, they defeated Hitler, and
that wasn't that long ago. And as you're talking about that, it's a gigantic country. People are very patriotic, they're very happy with the changes that Putin has made, and so you're not going to be able to defeat them and that type of thing. But you know, what is is is it your judgment that this is a deliberate set up, a deliberate provocation, because three years before this began, you had an interview with and of course this
all really kind of goes back to the coup in twenty fourteen. But you know, Zelensky ran for on a platform of peace and he had a guy, I don't know if you're familiar with him, Alexander Arrostovich, and he was eventually kicked out because one of these one of these bombs that hit an apartment building. He said, well, he told the truth. He said, no, it was hit by some of our anti aircraft stuff and then it veered into the building. It wasn't necessarily a target of this thing,
and so they fired him. But he was also very candid three years in advance. He was their guy they sent to the peace process, and he came back and did an interview with Ukrainian television and she said, what's the prospect for peace? He said none. Oh, that's terrible. He goes, oh, it gets worse. We're going to have a full on war with Russia in three years, in twenty twenty two. And she said that's horrible, and he goes, yeah, the whole country is going to be
devastated. But he goes, the good part of it is we get into NATO. It seems to me, looking at it, I'd like to get your take on it. It seems to me like this was a long term plan that they had And what do you think is their plan to continue to ask colates so they can have a direct war with Russia. Do they really want a world war? What do you think? I don't think there was a plant at the time, at the time you mentioned to to start the
war with Russia. I think there was just try to bring Ukraine into NATO, and they knew that the Russia will oppose, so they was just try to do to Bardo two different ways of basically, the our administration and West and Western Europe instigate this entire affair. They wanted to bring and they were hoping that they can blow and they can scare Russia and they can bring Ukraine in the w didn't happen. Russia went and took it what they believe.
That's see now, I mean they are in state of war. Ukraine is not join NATO, it's not going to join the NATO. And as we start the full scale war with Russia, and Russia is no longer that that backwards communist state it used to be, where we will be five very modern, well equipped Russia and we are not prepared. Look at our forces now, they are more concerned with the perverse in the military. They are more concerned with with pronounce yeah that our fighting force, I mean the zips as
integrating yeah oh yeah. And that officer the space cadet who was saying, we've got to get our programs right just a couple of weeks ago. It truly is ludicrous. And yet you know, they talk about the domino theory. And yet if you're the Russian people, you're the Russian side. You look at all these different countries that are coming in and joining NATO and you know, they're they're adding morell that haven't done Ukraine yet. You know,
they've added what was it, Finland and Sweden and things. You look at it and it's like, well, that looks like a domino theory. It looks like, you know, it looks like somebody is on the move and somebody is getting aggressive, and it's like what it's even the message the meaning of NATO before all the stuff began. I mean, is there really why did they need to even continue NATO and why are they expanding NATO so rapidly?
What do you think? I don't think NATO may survive this escalation here, not necessarily even the war, because what I suspect what is going to happen, Russians just get tired. They still tried to make they try to negotiate, That's true, they still try to make it somehow amicable. Well, it's not going to happen under this administration. So Russia's finally saying they will get tired, they will just take what they need to take. We are bluffing, We are not able to do anything up there. So I
think we are in the very bad spot. But please remember this is the same cabal I'm talking about this administration. This is the same cabal that gave as Benghazi, Oh yeah, a morder ambassador, our ambassador. They killed two of my teammates. It's just the same kabal that fled Afghanistan. They fled in such a hurry they left thousands of our and Allied citizens in Taliban hands. This is the same kabal trying to manage Ukraine as a joke.
And think about it. Who is running our country? We have a mentally impaired man who is being led and guided by his wife because he cannot make up the stage. You think he's making any shots exactly exactly. You know, it's not fun to laugh at our president. But it is quite and it is quite ex said that this elder with serious mental deficiency is being abused by his nefarious wife and his hands. To those who enable it, they
should be prosecuted for elder abuse. This man doesn't belong in the White House. She belongs in the in the some facilitic care facility for elderly people. Now, this is what it is. So you know, it's just I think we need we need to change, We need the real leadership in our country. We need to go back to our values. Patriotism is not is nothing wrong with being patriotic American, but we are being now portrayed as the
right wing craziest. You know, if you are problem, if you tell yourself crowd American citizen, you are being called crazy and right wing extremists. I mean, thinking about parents demanding real education for kids are being branded FBI as criminals, you know, as weaponization of our state entities. That's not different that the country I escaped from, the same This is the same thing. They will intimidate, They will raid your families, your home and do
because you are inconvenient politically to the state, to the system. I mean, we need to wake up because we are going the same job the Russia went in nineteen seventeen, the Bolshevik Revolution. I agree, So we are dangerous spot. We should worry less about Ukraine and there's more about our southern border because it's just it's crazy. This is let's just talk about that.
Let's talk about the border. I'll just say this. You know, it's kind of like a lot of these things, sometimes there's a silver lining. You know, we had all the schools locked down and kids who are doing zoom class and everything. Finally we got a chance for parents to actually see what was going on in their classroom. I've had that conversation with people for thirty year years and telling them what's happening. Oh, but that's not in
our school. You know. They could believe that it's coming out of the federal government. They could believe that it was even a state government or that school board or whatever, even maybe even in the same school. But I got a good teacher in my classroom. Well, the zoom stuff, they could finally see that. And the thing about Biden, I guess the silver lining for Biden is people can look at Biden and they can understand the President's
not the one who's running the show. There's somebody behind. You know, who are these people really? Who is the shadow government that's really running the show here, you know, because it certainly isn't Joe Biden. So that's the only possibly good thing that come out of this is that that kind of dispel that idea from people that he's the one in charge. There is a cabal, like you point out, and it's the same people that gave us
Benghazi and the disaster in Afghanistan and all these other things. But let's talme next years. Sorry, they in the disaster in Ukraine. This disaster in Ukraine is not the disaster for US in Western Europe. It's disaster for Ukrainian even more because I don't know if this nation will be able to rebuild itself after what this administration did to it. Yes, yes, and again that's
another part of it. You know, when I look at something like this, and you could, you could look at the fact that you've got all of these big corporations that are mysteriously operating. As you point out, we don't even know who has the second largest holding there. But you know, so what is their goal? Is it just really to get monopoly pricing on
this stuff? And yet if that really was their goal, why are they having this war on this farm land there, especially when you have the possibility of having cluster bombs or you have depleted uranium which pollutes the land, you know forever. Basically, you know, why would you destroy it? Seems to me like there's also an aspect of trying to destroy that farmland. And it seems to me like a lot of these globalist cabals want to just as
they do in the Netherlands. They want to destroy the farms. They want to take them by, you know, putting the farmers off the land. They want to you know, consolidate everybody in the little cities and control the food distribution all the rest. Perhaps that's what exactly a motivation for what's going on in Ukraine as well. Do you think, well, it's not only in Ukraine, is our in our country too, in America, you know,
Western Europe and in Ukraine too. Ukraine is the most important part for them because the entire fertile lanes in Western Europe do not match Ukrainian fertile lines the biggest I think food supply for entire Europe and Africa. So yeah, they want to take control of it. I don't know why they're ruining, destroying it or just caving, but this is not good. And this is
the same thing is happening in our country too. You can see Chinese people, i mean Chinese citizens buying our lands farm months as also our oligachs too, So in destruction, food infrastructure, just as we saw in Texas, you know, and all these other things happening, and so much of that stuff is happening. You have to ask yourself, is this a coincidence or
is this a plan? Because they really do want to control our food supply and they want us buying their lab food that they are going to take control of and deliver to us as they see fit to do it. I think that's a big part of it. But let's talk about what's going on at the border. Especially, why isn't it that you've got all these people and I look at I get very frustrated. I hear the Republicans talking about it,
but they don't build a wall, they don't finish the wall. And then even when we look at what is happening in Texas, it is one city, you know, Eagle Pass, They've got a big presence there, but you just go, you know, not even a mile away from it. Many reporters have gone and there's nothing there, and there's wide open areas where anybody can come in. So there's a lot of theater that's going on with all this stuff. What do you think it's going to take to get
this done, get control of the board. Well, we think about what can be done. Just try to think ask the questions why it is being done. I believe that ballots touching may not work this time. The COVID virus may not work this time for Democrats or for the cabut behind behind it. For water froud may not work. So the borders were open to the hordes. The new scheme is to count non citizens account and bidenance inviders for
congressional seats and electoral votes. Democrats also working to give bidence invaders voting rights. Yes, so they count them as part of the census and then do the allocation for that. And so if they bring them in to these particular states, then all of a sudden they can inflate the number of congressmen coming from that state, and they can pack the Congress. That's one way they always want to do. The FDR wanted to pack the Supreme Court. These
people talked about packing the Supreme Court. Well, they can pack the Congress as well, and they can use foreign citizens here to do that. Yes, and again, as I have seen in the communist country I escaped from, once socialists around the country, once they had established fraudulent elections, you will continue to have fraudulent elections because state entities will be right. They are here now being weaponized targetting political opponents. We see what is happening to President
Trump right now. I mean, in my opinion, there's a bimboy prostitute who doesn't even remember when she was assaulted and how it happened, and she wanted million dollars millions dollars a lawsuit. There's not the criminal case, so he's not that but but she wanted the money for what she doesn't even remember what happened. But this is how perverted it became eventually, and this is just the beginning of the of of you starting the socialist way of thinking.
Yeah, I think everybody sees that it is a selective prosecution on these cases, that it is politicized, that they have committed in many cases committed the same crimes and there's not anything brought against them, so we understand this is specialized. It's not even really a prosecution. It's a persecution. They've taken the blindfold off of Lady Justice and they're using a laser focus to come after
somebody that they believe is their political enemy. But that is happening to a lot of people, and there's so many different areas where this is happening, especially in speech and censorship. You're seeing people now in Europe being sent to prison in Canada, they've got a bill to send people perhaps even to life in prison because of speech issues, and to do it before they say anything, do it in a pre crime way. I mean, it truly is
amazing. There's so many different it's like shock and all off when I look at it, you know, hitting every hitting us, well, everything all at once, everywhere, to take away every foundation of the Bill of Rights and everything else that Western civilization has had and built over millennia. See Socialist Democratic Party right now is starting our country into something I escape from. And you can talk if you listen to immigrants who escape the totalitarian socialist countries.
Uh, they are alarmed. I mean on my account on LinkedIn, which is heavily censored of course, or Facebook heavily censored. I have people calling me and and messaging me that they are scared because that is what they experience in former communist countries. Because you know what the goal I think is not
to make America communist state. But please remember that socialism and communists are excellent tools to control societies, so why not to implement I mean it will it will not succeed on the long run, and it takes decades, but it takes decades to free yourself from the yog of communities and socialism, if even possible with because if the technology that exists today exists that in nineteen eighties and seventies when I live in the communist country, these characters would stay communists.
People would not be selves. And I think that's their plan. I think I think if they're looking at you know where, if you look at Strauss and how people on this show I talk about a great deal the people who can't coin the term millennial or gen z and all, so everybody uses those terms where they don't talk about the big picture that they were talking about, which is every four generations you have the institutions are completely changed. It's almost
alway. Well, it is always massive economic change, and it is usually accompanied with war, and then you wind up with a society that, whether it's good or bad, the change usually wind up with that for about seventy years. I think these people are expecting, you know, we're in that time right now, we're in the middle of a fourth generation where everything is
turning. I think they believe that if they win this, they're going to be able to hold on to it longer than that with the tools that they've got, and as you point out the people who have lived in it,
they're sounding the alarm. Rod Dreyer wrote a book a few years ago saying live not by Lives, which he quoted from Alexander Sultanist, and he said, the reason I wrote this book is because I had friends whose parents escaped Communism and they were freaking out, and they said, we're seeing exactly the same stuff we've lived under. I talked to Shi Van Fleet, who got out of China. She grew up in China, and she said, all the same stuff that's being done in the schools now, she goes, it's
not woke, it's Marxism. And she wrote a book, Mau's America, a survivors Warning to America, because she said the anti racism that you see, she said that was struggle sessions, is what they called it in China. But it's exactly the same thing. And so they're using these same techniques because they work. It's just as simple as it can. I also have the technology as a multiplier as well. Yeah, oh absolutely. You see. When I wrote my book, my intention was to showcase America as the
most beautiful, powerful, unique, exceptional country with free country. So now, but I wanted this book to be used as a press to see America this way through the prism of socialism communism, how oppressive the socialism really is. But now when people read it that you get also a lot of messages say, hey, what you describe in your book isn't something that's happening here in our country. Now, yes it is. This is what. It disturbs me. It really sometimes scares me too. So again, we are
not socialist communists yet we just need to make we don't become one. And this is why the processes are accelerating, because there is a man who exposed all these shennigans and they may not have much time because once people see what really is, nobody will follow it. And even now, you know, most majority of our people do not support that socialist oppression, do not support
communism. But we are being told by the manipulative fake news media that majority of people would like to have that socialist state, which is absolutely not true.
But the same thing happened in communist Poland, where there's maybe ten percent of people hardcore communists like my father, but rest people love and hate communism and social But when you read the fake news media in Poland, at the communy styles behind iron curtain, you would think that the majority of Pols are loving that socialism and communism, because this is the way that propaganda works. This is why censorship is so important to Oh, yeah, we saw I
got a lot in twenty twenty. You know, there were a lot of us, at least a third of us, who didn't want the masks, didn't want the lockdown, weren't afraid of the so called pandemic and all the rest of the stuff. But we were led to believe that we were alone because they would cover up our stories and they would amplify the other side of this. And so this has always been the case, and I'm sure especially
when you grew up in communists Poland. I know in Russia they used to have two papers they had as Vesti and Pravda, and they one of them meant news, the other one meant truth. And they said there's no truth in Pravda, there's no news in the People were not really fooled by it, but they felt helpless and they really couldn't do anything about it. And that's what sold in instant were talked about in your experience. You're growing up
and you're a young person in Poland, your dad as a communist. What was it that gave you the courage to go against this grain rather than just going along? You see, I'm saying my father was a high ranking Communist in Poland, in Polish government, but I really didn't have much contact with him until I was sixteen years old. Because of the poverty, I had to be sent either to orphanage or to live with my father, and eventually father agreed to take me in. I lasted only one year before he kicked
me out. But by this time my ideas were shaped by my mother, by my mother's family, and so when I went up there, the first question I asked him, So, if everybody loves socialism so much, which I don't see about my friends, but as my father, but what about those people who do not support socialism and communism? What about them? Well? The answer was very quick and sample, we need to eliminate them.
So and the way we say how, Well, the first we're gonna band them, we're gonna cancel them, We're gonna remove them from society basically intellectually. So it happened. You know, the statues were removed that did not support socialist ideology, the books were removing, libraries and band. But try say, well, okay, but what if they still don't like socialism,
Well, then is the final solution. Then we're gonna just physically exterminate them because they are in the way of progress to socialism and communism are such a great state. So that was his ideas, my father's ideas that you know, you you try to convince them, but if they don't buy it, you arrest them, cancel them, put them in jails, and eventually that doesn't have you just came them. Yeah, and that's what we're saying now
with the speech stuff. You know, it's been we've been shadow band, we were over the band, and then now you know they are and then publicly humiliate. Now they want to start putting people in jail, and they are putting people in jail. Wish sorry, we shard politic our prisoners today these people are sitting in the democrats dungeons in Washington, d C. I've just as political prisoners. I was in communist state. One thing. It is so pain I mean, I don't know even how they sold it to
people. Governments cannot be overthrown by people waving hands and flags. Yeah, and they to tell us that there was attempt. There was cool attempt. They tried to overthrow government, our government by who people waving flags? Yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, there was absolutely there was no way they were going to I told people, I said, don't go as a trap because there's nothing you can do. And you know, they're not going to show up with weapons and have a shootout. And they didn't show up with
weapons. And yet now they're going to prison because they construed it as if they had shown up with weapons or something. And it's the power of the press to be able to spend a media and it is this this this you know, this government that we have that is absolutely unashamed to openly violate the constitution of the rule of law. Absolutely. Let me tell you this that President trum By questioning election results didn't commit any crime. Most of in our
country now question these results. Eighty one million people for mentally deficient men who never even campaign. I don't buy it. I don't believe it. For me, this election is not twenty twenty had all the hallmarks of socialist election. Socialist election. This term is not very well understudy here. It's not very common, but it's very well student in former communist countries. Socialist elections elections are the elections where Communists and Marxists always win. Those are those we
call socialist elections. And these elections twenty twenty had all the harmarks of socialist elections. Questioning and challenging the results of elections is not the crime. It is only crime in communist countries or Nazi fastest countries and run by countries run by Communists like by father. So saying that we have an insurrection as a hoax, as another hoax and as a nonsense. I've seen insurrections. I've been. I live in Poland. When the Charos Slovak in nineteen sixty happened.
That was tanks and guns being used, people flags waving hands with American flags and waving hands. Cannot overthrow our government. It's a hoax, yeah, And they very carefully controlled the varios of the release to make it. You know, who did the first shoving, you know, because that's what fist fights and stuff like that, So who shoved first? And they controlled
that that completely. Even that you compare it to Portland or other cities, when the Democrats unleash their terror groups like antifas Black Lives Matter on our society. They burned entire cities through the modern people. This is we're talking about the riots, but there was not even the riots. People. If you look at the videos that were recently released videos, you can see police guiding people around the Capitol, people saying walking that yes, some misbehaved, but
you know what, that will always happen. They will always also remember that this crowd was infiltrated by state entities who did instigate it. What I believe failed on January sixth, The biggest failure was Democrats being unable to instigate widespread mayhem and violence that didn't happen. So that's kind of put off a lot of their ideas what they want to do. But that I believe their ideas
was well, and it's interesting that they're also considerable. I think it's interesting that they're escalating the arrests now because they just come after a reporter for the Blaze who was there as a reporter. I mean, clearly he's you know, but of course, if you don't have the right, if we don't have part of the First Amendment to the symbol and redress your grievances. You don't have the right to report either, right, so they're coming after him.
They just arrested him, took him off in handcuffs. One of the people that I used to work with, Sam Montoya, they arrested him and he was doing journalist work, you know, he was there and he didn't push or shove anybody. We've seen three guys that I talked about, two elderly guys, and one of them was the son of one of the two guys. They're in their early seventies. They just walked up to the police and said, can I use the restroom? They said, yeah, it's
right around here. They charge their charging them and want to give them a five year jail sentence. It is absolutely absurd. And I guess here's my question for you, what do you think is really behind all this? Because everybody sees the absurdity of this. Are they doing that to provoke? Are they doing this an election year to provoke? There is a small loyal base to them that eats all this stuff up, just accepts it whatever the mainstream
media says to them. But for most people, I think they look at this and they say this is really over the top. As we're talking about do they want to do that or is this another provocation trying to provoke something. What do you think? I don't believe so, but I think they are not afraid of it. That their goal is to terrorize the society into submission. And if you start, you know, I know this from my experience in communist state, in communist country, behind the Iron curtain, it
starts big, of course. So now we have a President Trump being attacked by by this administration. Now we have a citizens being attacked, more prominent citizens. But please remember once, once they have done with them, the next is you in line. So if if for right now now I can say, well, whatever I want to say, but pretty soon for what I'm saying now, I might be looking over my shoulder because the way the
socialism works, we know me a memory about it. Yeah, I know, yeah, it's socialism, whether it is a peopler socialism, national socialism. H Joseph stalin socialism Polish at the time, socialism in my father and
communist in Poland call that police socialism, democratic socialism. And we know how many of the thousands people are dead just in Poland, not talking about other democratic socialist countries in Eastern Europe. So socialism and socialism, and they all have many things in common, like censorship, persecution of political opponents, political prisoners, and even kill, political assassination, killing more inconvenient people to the state. So we need to be careful. I see a lot of enamoration
now our younger generation with socialism. They try to differentiate we socialism is not the communism. Well, it's not as special, but there's the stepping stone to socialism. We're taught our schools in Poland and in Eastern Europe. The socialism is the stepping stone to communism. Society need to be prepared to accept the values, the moral values of communism. So the socialism allowed this gradual transition into full communism. God help us. I agree with yeah. Whenever
they sell a socialism, it's always a common thing. Is always the superiority of the collective to the individual, the superiority of the state, And we saw that in spades th about twenty twenty. Your health doesn't matter, you're going to do what we say to say. You've got to take a vaccine so you can save everybody else. All that type of stuff. So that is is a key part of it. But I think the solution for this
stuff is books like yours. You know, the Pledge to America. Will you talk about you have a very compelling story your experience with the Navy Seals, and it gives people an opportunity to and you're growing up in a communist country, and people can look at that and say, wow, that looks like what they're doing here. Just like you know, all the different testimonies that we see. If people who escaped communism, they know what it was like, they can smell it a mile away, and they're warning us.
And people need to see these compelling personal stories about how people have escaped this. I think it's very important and I've got let me get your comment on this drago. This last week, I think we had a victory of some sort in Ireland. You had the progressives. They thought they had everybody on the run. They were able to modify the constitution and get abortion put in
there, or really stop the prohibition of abortion in the constitution. So then they came back and they decided that they were going to essentially attack motherhood and the family, redefine all that in the Constitution, and they got slapped down overwhelmingly, about just under seventy percent on one of the issues and almost three quarters on the other issue. People didn't want to have it. And I
think that's one of the key things. And I think that's a key thing in your story because as you point out, you know, your mother was the influence on you, and we've lost the importance and that is one of the things that was in the Irish Constitution, the important function of a mother, the important function of a family to shape a society where people have a good life. And I think that was a situation with you. If tell
me if I'm mistaken, but it was. You know, we used to talk about the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, and so in these socialist countries. In this country, you know, Biden wants to give free, you know, preschool care, they want to raise your kids, and they're going to pay for it. We need to take that responsibility away from the state, and we need to reassert the importance of the family, the importance of the mother. And I think that's the key thing. Is
why I ask you know, what was it that turns you around? And it seems like it was your mother. Those who were close to you. You weren't close to your father the Communists, but it was you were close to those who had a different take on this. What do you think is is that really what we need to focus on in building the family and building those relationships. What do you think you see what turned me around that I think this is a good lesson for everybody. Hears too, the power of
social state and the control they have over our children. That we need to take you back here. But what happened to me is when I said something in my fifth grade It was about the Russian language. I didn't want to learn Russian language. I was not the best student in the class, and I for me, the additional Russian language was just another homework I had to do at home. So I just piped up at school, open, teacher, why do they teach us Russian language? The Russian the oppressor of Poland.
This is the way Paul's understood the scene Rossian time. So that was like I didn't think much of it, but immediately I was the teacher woke up to merabb me by my ear. This was a method that all schools, I guess in Polanded the world put me by the ear out of the class to the school principle and uh, they call police, they call police. So the police before came to school. They when my mother was a teacher in different school, they picked her to detain her and they handcuffed her.
They brought her to my school. They shut us down, and there was a two I think two uniform officers and two secret police officers and they interrogate us. And then they made it pretty clear that if this incident like this repeated, so if I'm speaking up about socialism and not positive manner, I would be removed from my mom and place in orphanage, the government orphanage, that I will be told properly. So it was the one of the
things that made me think and of course scared my mother. And then there other experiences within my family when stayed when and destroyed my uncle's business because he was working too hard and was competing with government businesses and with the business owned by communist cronies. So not only the story his business, they almost killed him. So that and this is who told me how to listen to Radio Free or Radio Voice of America. And this is where I started learning about
the real Polish history because it was so falcified. Please remember after the Second World War when communists were brought on Russian bionets to Poland. To Poland, we had uh. The statues were removed that were not aligned with socialism, the books were removed from libraries, and and and and I didn't know about it. I learned about it later on. And that's what she need to understand. People need to understand how parallel all that stuff is. Again,
the book is the Pledge to America. Thank you so much for joining us. Drego and A DRUGO. Rather and pronounce your last name there, people probably won't be able to but if they get D R A g O and d Pledge to America, they'll be able to find that book, right, they'll be able to find good And we've got your website has been up there the entire time, so people be able to find your website as well.
Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for speaking out and trying to educate people so that we don't have to uh replicate what other people have learned the hard way. You know, that's the one thing they say that the experience is an expensive school, but it's the only one A fool will attend. And let's hope that our society is not so foolish that we have to go through this experience before we learn the lesson that people who've
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