All right, and joining us now I want to get him in before Christmas is Eric Peters of epautos dot com. And we have so much car talk to talk about. It truly is amazing. But I want to begin with something else that you got your site, Eric, and that is your story about this abusive relationship we're second with the federal government. Tell us about that one that we've been in since eighteen sixty five. Yeh, that's right, that abusive relationship. If you leave, I'll kill you. As you point
out, you know, I used that graphic. It shows Abraham Lincoln and as that caption, if you try to leave me, I'll kill you. And I thought that that was very succinct and very apt because it distilled the whole conflict into that witty, little mean yeah, And that's exactly what it was all about. You know. On the one hand, we have this cognitive dissonance in this country. On the one hand, kids are taught to
revere the Founding Fathers, the Founding fathers who seceded from Great Britain. That's right, he said, will you They said, we'll kill you as well. Well. Somehow in the Southern States wanted to exercise the same prerogative. They felt that they were no longer served by being part of this union, just as the columnists thought they were no longer being served by being part of the British Union, and they wanted to separate themselves, leave, in other
words, from what they considered to be an abusive relationship. Did exactly that he killed what's the estimate, something around the order of half a million Americans were killed. Yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting. They would they would they again? Do you believe these numbers exactly the same number of people north and south, three hundred thousand each. Yeah. Of course that doesn't include civilian deaths, but I think that's a cooked number anyway. Yeah.
And the point is, you know, Lincoln, as Malcolm X I think said, Lincoln didn't free the slaves, enslave as all. That's right, that's right. I've said the way I put it, I said, he ended private slavery, and he made us all slaves of the public, slaves of the federal government. That's really what happened with all of it. And you know the other thing that's interesting, you know, we they always want to put this in the context of slavery, to put it in the
best possible light. But you know, the northern soldiers didn't call the Southern soldiers, didn't say slavers, you know, or didn't call them rage accusations of them being racist or having a white privilege or anything. They called them secession. They called them rebels. And so it was early about the secession. And you know, Eric, I've mentioned this on my show, probably never told you about it, but my brother in law went to Italy.
My wife's family is half Italian, and he went to Italy to study, and he learned Italian and met some relatives over there, and they gave him a diary that had been put together by an ancestor who fought with Garibaldi's army there. And that was a real eye opener for me, because I realized that Italy was going through a civil war in eighteen sixty one exactly as we were, and it wasn't over slavery. It was over the same thing that
our war was ultimately about. And that was a fourth turning, going from an agrarian society to an industrial society. And as part of that fourth turning, you had nation states that were being created everywhere, and so you had internal civil wars that were happening everywhere in Italy and Brazil and other places. As a matter of fact, Garibaldi had fought in Brazil, I think as Brazil or Argentina. Always get those two confused. Anyway, he had fought
over there and then went to Italy to fight. So you had this type of this thing, this consolidation because of the industrialization. You had this consolidation of the nation state. You had different power centers now because of industrialization versus agrarian and that's what that war was really about everywhere that it was happening. But of course they spend this for their own particular purposes. And I remember
that Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Stonewall Jackson. Stonewall Jackson said this is our second Worman and that's the way he saw it, and that's exactly what it was. You know, people have a right to self government, and we see this all the time. You know. We had Ukraine said well we're going to secede from Russia, and then the people on Crimea say, well we want to stay with Russia. No you can't. We're going to fight you and kill you. You know, and if you do that, that type
of thing. The relationship that isn't consensual is if so facto abusive, isn't it? That's right? I mean, if you're compelled, if you're forced by by threats of violence to remain in a relationship, I think by definition it's an abusive relationship. The left has been very successful in this etymological ledger, you mad if using words to change the way people think about things.
You know, even you and I we're just talking about this, and we use the term the Civil war, and it's a term because it was not a civil war. It was an attempt by the southern Southern States to secede, which is a very different thing. The Southern States were not attempting to occupy and control the North and to control the government of the whole. They simply wanted to have their own government and their own country' I think it's important
to make that point. That's right, Yeah, that is exactly what It's two groups of people fighting to control the same country. That's very different than saying we want independence and secession. But you know, it's all ramping up and it is getting it is escalating, and we see this. I've said many times, I think that they're setting up Donald Trump and a set him up for quite some time to be the Mason Dixon line of our next civil
war. Yeah, it's horrific. I this morning, I was struggling to even find the words after I read news about the decision in Colorado that apparently is going to take Trump off the ballot in that state on the basis of his having been an erection an insurrectionist, notwithstanding that he's not actually been formally charged or convicted. And I'm not carrying the order for the Orange Man by any rights. I'm just pointing out this horrible winning that we're being kind of
pushed down a cattle choot. What they're trying to do. They accused Trump, on the one hand, of an insurrection, and they're actually fomented a real one. Yes, because they're making people so angry and desperate, you know, the same a funerist people who will constantly talk about our democracy and
who then tell you who you're allowed to vote for right now. Again, I'm not caring water for Trump, but if he's a popular candidate, people want to vote for him, okay, And by taking him off the ballot, if they're successful in doing that, they're going to enrage people, and it seems to me inevitable that there's going to be some kind of an incendiary response to this, and I think that that's what they want, frankly, and they continue to do this. I just talked earlier in the program about
how they've now arrested a Blaze photojournalist who was there years after this. They continue to expand this, and I think that that's a real insurrection against our constitution and our form of government that the Biden administration continues to cast this net wider and wider. There he came after Sam Montoya, Info Wars and other reporters. Now they're coming after this guy, a bona fide a photojournalist to attack and attack him over just being he didn't harm anything, he didn't interfere
with anything. He's taking pictures as protected under the constitution, And so they really do want to ramp this whole thing up, and we've got to be careful not to fall into that trap. That's one of the things, Eric, that I'm so concerned about, because you look at it both the people
who oppose Trump and the people who support Trump. What do you think is going to happen because one of those groups is not going to get their way, and so whether he wins or whether he loses, you're going to have half of this country want to kill the other half of the country over Trump. That's really what we're looking at coming up in this next year, and
they're egging it on. You know, that situation is very much analogous to what the situation was back in eighteen sixty one when you had this regional difference broadly brushed between north and south, and you had two mindsets, two cultures, and two societies that were at odds with one another. And this was blamed and pushed and it got to a certain point where the kinetic energy became
unsolvable and events took their own course. And that seems to be exactly what's happening right now with regard to what's going to happen over the course of the next twelve months. And it's pretty scary. And I just saw this thing from Tucker Cross and he and Dan Bongino are getting each other worked up in Tucker crosson these guys are your blood enemies, No, they're not. The appropriate response is to debate this, not to kill these people. But they're
escalating this. They really want both sides want violence, and they keep talking about blood, you know, Trump talking about migrants being blood poisoning or poison in your blood, you know, and it's like the person who put poison in our blood? Was you pal? I mean, is founding? Yeah. I have a number of friends, including friends that I had been friends with since I was a teenager, who adamantly will not deal with the business of Trump pushing those drugs on people. Yea, and his action during the
final year of his presidency if that just doesn't matter. It's as if you know, in Orald's nineteen eighty four crime stop, you know, when that thought comes up, they just blink and shut down. I say, well, what about the bump stock bump stop bump sock business, what about the red flag laws? Yeah, and it's just a conversation over Yeah, you're you're you know, you're not seeing the big picture of the five D chess. Yeah, oh yeah, I know. I work for a guy that
was always pushing that stuff. But yeah, that is that is the key thing, isn't it. You know, that's this blind spot and now they just shut it down. And I see that through all the press. I see it with bright part I see it with WorldNet Daily. Uh. You know all of these different I call them the the maga bird press. You
know you had the mocking bird press for the CIA. These are the people the other side of the Hegelian uh project here that are just pushing everything for Trump that absolutely hate the vaccine, people like Wayne Allenhood, but they just Trump is your savior. You won't say anything negative about him. And we can see how that is happening to politicians who do oppose him. But you
know, let's talk about what's going on with the climate stuff here. You know, jail time for operators of gas powered leaf blowers, edgers, and mowers, and this is I mean literally jail time. This is being pushed in in Washington state where else. And you know al Gore said in twenty fifteen that the deniers need to be punished, you know, for violating his religion, and so they want criminal sanctions. And we've got a law that's
going into effect this next year in California. They passed it in twenty twenty one, but it's going to go into effect this coming year to ban all leaf blowers and lawnmowers and weed tremors and so if you don't do that, what are they going to do to you? Well, the one in Washington State is going to go into effect in twenty twenty six, so we'll see this one in California is going to happen first. But this is how desperate
these people are. Any gasoline, diesel powered landscaping other outdoor power equipment is going to be contributing to climate change and we're going to have to lock you up. But you know, this is inevitability, isn't it. You know, if you accept or you let go unchallenged the premise that there is a climate crisis, i e. An existential threat, you know, a dire emergency and we're all going to die. Well, then it follows, doesn't
it permit people to operate anything that produces carbon dioxide. It's even going to get to the point, and I saw a news article about this earlier where they're starting to worry about people breathing. Yes, you're sailing carbon dioxide and you're contributing therefore to this climate crisis. So you've got to get at the
root of this. You've got to talk about the climate crisis, which is a fraud, and to spell that, then you can deal with this issue, but you cannot play their game by accepting their terms of the debate. That's right. And when we talk about I talk about both the pandemic thing and the you know, the climate thing. I call them mcguffin's. It's like, you know, Hitchcock. The mcguffin is just what motivates the characters. But you've always got the same goal at the end of the line.
And so we can't talk about the pandemic as being real or the virus is being real, and we just like you know, we can't say, well, this is a better way to handle the real pandemic, and we can't talk about a better way to handle the real emissions because you can't accept those false premises. You're not going to win a debate. If you let the other people set up a false foundation for that debate and you go along with that, you're going to lose. And so you've got to stop talking about
emissions because again it comes down to our breath. And because this has been before the environmental movement even started. You know, in nineteen seventy the first Earthday, they had already they based it on the population bomb. So this has always been about stopping us breathing and stopping us doing everything. So it's always been about killing people, and so we have to understand that we just don't accept their premise that there is a virus, a pandemic, or a
climate crisis. You cannot play that game with them. Yeah, I try to. For example, I refer to the event that was marketed as a pandemic, and then I will deconstruct that a little bit, and I'll point out that, yeah, it's technically true, if you really want to be pedantic about it, that it was a pandemic in the sense that maybe there
was a bug going around. But the thing the key to understand this, I think is the disingenuousness of it because to the average person, when they hear that word pandemic, it calls up immediately associations of mass death, and that's exactly what they wanted by using that term. It's a dishonest way of having a discussion about it. Just the same when they talk about emissions, you know, which the implication there is that it's a pollutant. The implication
then is that you're causing some sort of harm to the external environment. And to characterize carbon dioxide, which plants need in order to create oxygen so that we can breathe as a pollutant is preposterous. So it's really important to deconstruct all of these things, and it's a lot of work. It's it's literally like cleaning out the algae and stables. You know, you have to parse
almost every word that's used today in the debate. I wish I could remember the exact phraseology of it, but I think it was our Ematerrell back in the nineties and he talked about something he called the culture smog. Do you
remember that term? Yeah? Yeah, And what he meant by that was that everything is so fought now with this dishonest language that causes people to think of things in a certain way that it becomes almost impossible to have a rational discussion about anything without first going back and picking apart these words and trying to figure out, well, what exactly is meant by that word, what is the point of view that they're trying to convey, And let's discuss that before
we have the broader discussion. That's right, And you know you mentioned the term smog. Right, when's the last time we've heard the term smog? Nobody talks about that anymore because we got rid of it right on. Me controls everything and we don't have smog. But smog was just, you know, something that they use to take us to the next step right aways, a sounding of the neurosis of people. You know that they can't okay,
all right, they're telling me that there's something that's dangerous out there. I'm gonna use my eyes and look, I'm looking out the window of my office. The sky's blue, which seems pretty nice. Other just like with the virus. Oh, there's this invisible boogieman. It's going to kill us all It's invisible. It's always invisible, isn't it. They're literally turning the populace into a bunch of neurotic, hysterically scared children were crawling under the bed to
hide because there's danger, danger everywhere. Yeah, I said, everybody on pins and needles. I said. Back in April twenty twenty, I said, we've become an OCD nation. I mean, everybody was wiping everything down, masks and gloves, and I can't get gas. I'm afraid I'm going to catch the virus on. These people are crazy. Now. The pandemic was political and the and it was psychological. It wasn't biological, right,
And that's what we have to understand. Yes, there were people who additional people who died, and they were dying from stuff like the ventilators and the medical protocols and the rim deservor and things like that that was actually killing more people, and they were being paid handsomely to kill people by the top minister holiness. You know, shutting people in homes where they had no access to their family, yes, and getting them no hope and no reason to live.
You know, that'll sap the life out of an elderly person, and that's what happened to a lot of them. That's right. Well, you know, getting back to this thing that the face up to a year in jail in Washington State for having a leaf blower worn sanity. Oh yeah. And then of course you know Biden is coming after ceiling fans, after he shuts down our air conditioning. He wants to come after the ceiling fans, and he wants to redesign them quote unquote for efficiency to the extent that nobody
will be able to afford them. That is really what we're looking at here. Here's this is New York and this is up in the Buffalo area where they do get a lot of snow. They have the lake effect that's up there. And now what they're doing though this hearkens back to the kinds of controls that we had during Trump's lockdown. They want to enforce travel bands for weather and for any other catastrophes that they can imagine. Right, So it's
all there. We didn't get rid of any of this stuff. They're going to bring it back. They're going to have different mcguffins, but they're still going to get their travel bands, which is what they really want. And in this particular case, I guess you could say it's a travel ban over the climate, because it's a travel ban over the weather. But that's really what they want to have, is that, and they will give travel exemptions
to essential people. Oh isn't this the same language that Trump used? Yeah, you know, the safety cult. I wrote about this probably ten or fifteen years ago. I predicted that it's going to a tastasize to the point where if there's a snowflake walking down from the sky, or if we're going to get some heavy rain, they're going to impose travel bands because it's not
safe to be on the roads. You know, they've already asserted and established the precedent for all of these things, and since they haven't been challenged, they're going to continue to use them. You know, everything that occurred during the past three years, none of that has yet been fully rejected as unwarranted, unreasonable, tyrannical. They simply dialed it back a little bit, and they're waiting for their next opportunity to bring it back out of the toolkit.
Yeah. I remember when this happened in twenty twenty and they went around, they gave us paper and said, you know, try to make a case that you know, this person has engaged in the central thing of informing the public or whatever, and you know these are not the droids you're looking for. Officer, let him go. You know, I never had to use that at a stop. I never had to do any of the mind trick.
But that is exactly what they're saying with this. We're going to have a list of essential employees that'll be reviewed annually and essential employers and they'll be asked to provide updates and then you'll have to show your identity papers to the to the stormtroopers. Yeah, I think that the little liberal stormtroopers, they
send them out and when there's a storm. Yeah, and then just wait, you know, if by some happenstance, the Orange Man is brought back into office next year, then to solve this problem of the illegal aliens who've been entering the country, Americans are just going to have to deal with showing their papers at checkpoints because we just can't have all of these illegal aliens running around through the country. Oh, you have to figure out who's here.
That's what they're going to do in that in that in that case, oh absolutely right. I mean, it already started with DeSantis in Florida and the Republicans in Florida. They said, we're going to have everify and we're going to make it mandatory. And see everify has been around for a while and Republicans have always referred back to that, and I've said, no, that is a trap. Do not do that. You know, we're going to leave the borders wide open. But now you Americans are going to have to
get an idea. And they're already talking about this because you got people like Michelle wu saying we're going to let foreigners vote in our elections. So now the Republicans say, no, we've got to have something to prove that you're an American citizen. You're going to have to have eve Airfi to vote. You're gonna have to. Don't give me a reason to not vote. I've got many enough of them as it is. But you know you're going to have to show your eve Airfy to vote, eve Verify, as you point
out, maybe to drive to the store. It's just crazy, but it's always a problem. And then they've already got the solution set up, and the solution always comes for all these problems that they've created. It always goes back to a digital ID. So you're just going to have to have that on your phone. And fundamentally, doesn't this all earlier With regard to consent, None of us have consented to this, I'm aware of that's right.
It's just being imposed upon us. And I think the only way we're going to get out of this is to reassert that unless I have freely consented to something, then it is illegitimate and you do not have the right to oppress me with a contract that I've been coerced into being a party to. That's right. Think it's going to create the necessitation for a secession of sorts.
And I've talked to people from the Tenth Amendment Center and others, and they pointed out, they said, you know, the middle ground here is nullification and non commandeering, and those have already been upheld. And there, you know, it's clear that you can have local officials who say, well, we're just not going to enforce those laws, and we saw that happening in
twenty twenty. That really is probably our best approach for all this is just to say we're going to focus on trying to get people in office locally who are not going to do this, even if the state government is doing it. At the very beginning of this, I remember there was a guy who had a church that he kept open, so they put him on Fox News. He had a lot of attention. He was in Illinois, and Pritzker
wanted to shut down the church there. Well, he got the sheriff there in that area, the sheriff and his deputies because Pritsker was saying, well, we're going to send the state police down there and we're going to rescue people if you go to church. He got the sheriff and his deputy the Chrieff went to his church, small town, and so you know, Sheriff Taylor and Barney five and then Barney puts his bullet in and they guard the
people there the church from being arrested. And they fortunately it didn't you know, come to a confrontation or anything. But you know, they were there to stop that from happening, stop them from being harassed. And so you know, you can, if you got the right people, you can do
things to stop that kind of intrusion. Yep. Non compliance is a very powerful tool even when it's only practiced by an individual, but when more individuals decide to practice it, then it takes on a kind of kinetic energy all of its own. A point comes when something becomes unenforceable because it becomes ridiculous. You know, go back a few years. A really good example of that as the old fifty five mile an hour national speed on it. Remember
that, Oh yeah, it became preposterous. You know, they kept they kept it enforced for twenty years, but everybody mocked it. Everybody dissipated it. Totally delegitimized traffic enforcement because everybody knew it it's just a scam to get money. And they eventually had to repeal it. And that's a really good
object lesson in how to deal with this stuff. You and I have talked before, you know, during the event that was marketed as a pandemic, If only enough people had refused to obey the mask mandates, only that had happened, it would have become unenforceable within a month, and the whole thing would have fallen apart, if only So that's a lesson to take from that
episode when the next episode comes up. And I tried to point out to people, you know, throughout the lockdown stuff, I said, look at what happened with medical marijuana and with pop prohibition, Right, what do we have? We got more than half of the states have said, even though it is now still listed as a Class one drug and their war on drugs, more than half of the states have said, well, we're not going to enforce that, and we're not going to arrest people for that, even
for recreational use in some states. So, whether or not you agree with pop prohibition, pop prohibition, like all the drug war, is against the Constitution. They never passed an amendment like the Eighteenth Amendment to prohibit either stuff and they never had the power. And so you have somebody like Jeff Sessions, who was you know, had fully succumbed to Reefer madness and he wanted
to shut this down so badly, but he never would. And that's why I say, you know, he didn't want to show how they had bullied and bluffed people over this issue where they had absolutely no legal authority. And
that is a real shining example. Regardless of what side you're on about marijuana or pot, that's a shining example of how you can shut down one of the biggest government agendas, the drug war, and because that was marijuana and pot that they were locking the most people up for during the War on drugs, and to shut that down. You know, the states have used it as as a way to make money, and they've got their own regulations and
things like that. But the bottom line is what it teaches us about authority when they overreached their authority. I think many of us has forgotten the lesson that most of us do learn an element entry school, which is that you're not going to get anywhere by deferring to bullies. You'll never comply, your flee out of bullying. That's right. You know it's not pleasant, but you have to stand up to bullies. And if you stand up to them,
then the bullying stops. And if only enough people would just practice that, that's standing up, even if it just means no, I'm not going to do that. You know what made okay? Whatever? If we would just recover our spine as a society, then most of these problems would no
longer be problems, at least not to the extent that they are. If you've got a critical mass of people a local area and they like people in town government and a sheriff and things like that, you have to have a critical mass to have that happen, and that critical mass can stand around those elected officials who are going to stand in the gap and stop this from happening. Yeah, let's talk about one of your articles here, another entry luxury
price, entry level vehicle. I like that, a luxury price, entry level vehicle. Which one is this? Well, let's let's let's start with some term ology. In the car business, the term entry luxury referred to a luxury brand's least expensive model, but it was still expensive, and the bar typically defining that was about thirty four to thirty five thousand dollars. That's which you used to pay for, say an entry luxury Lexus or a BMW
or Mercedes and what have you. And the counter to that was the entry level car, which was typically synonymous with an economy car, an affordable car. A good example of an entry level car would be something like a Toyota Corolla. Let's say, Well, as we transition into the world battery powered vehicles, the entry level of car is becoming the entry luxury priced car.
All of the latest evs that they're bringing out, and they're marketing these things as affordable have prices that start right around what used to be the defining price point for an entry luxury car. Fiat is bringing back their little five hundred micro car as an electric car, it's going to start around thirty four one thousand dollars. Volkswagen has just announced that they're going to bring out their entry level electric crosses. We're going to start around thirty four to thirty five thousand
dollars. Wow. So you know that's what they're they're pushing now, and there's this this interesting levolence behind it in that it's being pushed by the left, and the left putatively cares about the workingman, the average guy, right, if you're still buying that anyway, it's very clear that a working man, an average blue collar guy, is not going to be able to afford to spend thirty four thirty four to thirty five thousand dollars on a car.
So very clearly intent is to just cool all of these people who cannot afford that price of entry out of cars. That's right, that's right, Yeah, especially with interest rates where they are at this point in time. Ye
know, it's interesting to see this. In the UK, they went through some of their models and it's not really important what the models are, but across the board they had thirty used models of ev that had plunged the most value in twenty twenty three, and so they had thirty different models of evs that had lost half of their value in the first year. That's tremendous drop, and that is indicative of the collapsing demand for evs in general and the
price at premium that they have to charge for these things. It's just something else, you know. It's not just that they depreciate as all cars do. It's used. Electric car has a used battery and batteries as the age, lose their capacity to hold a charge. And so now you're going to get a vehicle that had started out with let's say the ability to maybe go two hundred and something miles on a charge out only goes one hundred and fifty. And it called onto it a little bit more. It's only going to
go seventy five and then it's not going to go at all. And if you want to go any farther, you're going to have to replace that battery. Now you're looking at spending ten to fifteen, even twenty thousand dollars on a battery for an electric car that you bought for ten or fifteen thousand dollars. Nobody's going to do that, and that's why they're not selling. Yeah, and we all know that. We know that from experience. We know
what happened to our phones and our laptops. I mean, all of our laptops are so old that you know, they're not They don't function unless they're plugged into the wall. Now is what the situation is around here. You know, I can run my laptop for maybe about twenty minutes and then I better get it plugged into the wall or it's gone and so that's what happens. You know, they charge up more slowly, they discharge more rapidly.
They don't aren't able to last with that thing. And we've all experienced that with all of our electronic devices. Why are the cars, Why do people think the cars are going to be any different? It's just a bigger problem and a more expensive battery to replace. Well, it's far worse because we say a laptop, you know, a laptop doesn't have to move, It just sits on your desk. So the battery and the laptop is relatively small,
and typically proportionately to the value of the laptop. It might be worth spending one hundred and fifty bucks or whatever on a new battery for a laptop rather than buying a new laptop for eight hundred dollars, let's say, But
the cost of battery replacement is so exorbited le high that it's unmanageable. You know, it doesn't matter how much you want, you know, the bottom line is, Okay, I'm going to what I'm going to put fifteen thousand dollars on my credit card of thirty percent interest to pay for a new battery for this used EV. It's insane economically speaking, nobody's going to do that. And the battery is more expensive than the value of the car as it's
depreciating. And now, you know, so you've got this accelerating trend because the battery the prices of them are going down. But now because the prices of them are going down, it doesn't make any sense. It makes even less sense to replace the battery. You know. And the hypocrisy of all this is kind of interesting, Eric, because this thing that I use here in my pad that I put my articles on to try to go paperless, I got an update from them and they've got a new model for this year
and it's got a removable battery. Why because the EU has mandated that they have to have renewable removable batteries for these things. And yet they keep mandating the evs for people that don't have removable batteries that are easily replaced or at
least affordably replaced either. You know what I'm saying. It is kind of crazy that for a small device like this, it's not all that expensive, they're going to mandate that it's going to have to have a replaceable battery that is easily replaced and everything, and yet for the cars, they're not easily replaced and certainly not economically replaced, regardless of how easy it is to get
them out of there. It's only crazy if you start with the assumption that this is some kind of well intended effort to simply replace the cars that we're driving right now with these electric cars because they're better for the environment. And that's just it's not the right way to look at it. That's right. This is malicious. They understand perfectly well what this is all about, and the point of it is to use the electric vehicle as the vehicle to get
most people out of cars. They're well aware of the cost issues, They're well aware of the practicality issues. They know that there isn't sufficient electrical capacity to power up an entire national fleet of evs if such a thing existed. They know this the whole point, and it's not me hypothesizing you. You
could read their documents. In one of my most recent articles, I'd linked to one of the documents where they very specifically say what they want is to get roughly two thirds of the cars off the road, two thirds of the people out of cars. And this is a mechanism I wish to going to accomplish. That's right, yeah, And that's just the next step. You know, the ultimate goal is to get everybody out of their cars. And you know, you're right, it's not irony, it's just hipocrisy. And
it's a real malevolent hypocrisy that they've got going there. But we've also seen now, you know, last time you were on, we talked about how some of the American car companies are pulling back. Now Audi is pulling back on electric vehicles. You've got the CEO there saying that he wants to avoid flooding dealerships. So we've also talked about that, how the inventory is backing up for all types of cars because of high interest rates, but especially for
the evs. And he said that they forecasted the electric car take up is going to be slashed by about half from last month. Sales of new battery powered cars expected to grow steadily until they accounted for six seven percent of the market by twenty twenty seven, but that has now been revised down from sixty
seven percent to an expectation of thirty eight percent. And I think that that is optimistic because I think now a word is getting out as the people who are the early adopters have tried to do this, and of course they're now also facing cheaper cars and competition from China. Audi has been kind of a luxury model, and you've got to review about one of the Audi As a matter of fact, you've got to review about one of the luxury Oudies.
Tell us a bit about that, well, the AA. It's kind of a depressing review in that the A eight is Outy's top of the line model. It's it's in the same class of cars and Mercedes S class or a BMW seven series. And if you go back, oh just a few years, go back about ten years, a car like the Audi A eight would
have come minimally with a V eight engine as a standard engine. And typically cars in that class and we're talking about six figure cars here, cars that have a starting price around eighty ninety one hundred thousand dollars would have the option to go with a D twelve engine. In the case of the A eight, they had a W twelve. You remember that. Wow, No,
I don't remember that. Yeah. I mean also exotic, because after all, you're spending essentially exotic money, you're spending near one hundred thousand dollars for one of these things, right, you know you're not buying a Corolla or a Cameray. Well, now, this top of the line OUTI and similarly the top of the line Mercedes and the top of the line BMW, they come standard with a little V six engine. Because the V six is now
becoming the new V twelve. You know, it's something that's exclusive and exotic. As on the lower end of the spectrum. I wrote about this recently, Toyota is pulling the V six out of the camera. They canceled the Avalon altogether, which was a slightly larger version of the camera, and they're
both now going to be four cylinder only hybrids. So you know, the proletariat, the peons can have a four cylinder engine, which used to be kind of synonymous with an economy car, and that's exactly what it is, except the price is in economy anymore. Whereas if you have the means, you know, if you're in that category of person who can afford something like an AA, now you can have a V six, but that's all you can have over ninety thousand dollars, and people who didn't buy one a couple
of years ago. I smacking themselves on the headside. I could have had a V eight, but you can't can't get it anymore. And of course as they do, that eric a place to the major selling point of the evs, which is just straight line acceleration. Yes, yeah, exactly right. Very interesting. I mean I had some inside baseball conversations with a person I can't really talk about it directly yet. I'm going to be writing about this at one of the major luxury car brands who was kind of chastising me
about my position the electric vehicles. And I said to this person, what will be the selling point of your brand when all you sell are battery powered devices and everybody else is selling battery powered devices and there really isn't any material difference between your device and their device. It's going to be ever ready or energizer over here. I mean, how are you going to? Where? Does you know at one point you had these wonderful particular types of engines that
the other MANUF didn't have, and that was a selling point. Well that's all going away. When everything has a battery and a motor, you can make a bigger battery a smaller battery. But there's no personality, there's nothing particular about it. So why not just have one conglomerated motors company that sells different shapes of extruded plastic blobs, you know, with with different sized motors or different power configurations. And it's just all the same homogenized stuff coming out
of this being squeezed out of the same factory somewhere. Well, that's when you call in the descendants of Edward Berneze in Madison Avenue and you create this mystique around a brand and you charge you know, three times as much for it, and then you know, it just becomes a status symbol. It's not that there's any functionally functionally a different thing about them at all. You know, it's kind of interesting. I'm sure you saw this about the cyber
truck that got stuck. Many people call the cyber things. Yeah, the cyber is stuck. And as I shaid, this thing being pulled out by a Ford pickup truck. And I think that it was the CEO of Ford that was this is an early Christmas gift or something to that extent to show that the cyber truck was being pulled out by a gasoline engine forward truck. But yeah, it is. It is kind of interesting to see how this
is developing. And now we've got Elon Musk who has made a pivot to saying, well, we're not going to be able to get rid of fossil fuels in the short term or maybe even in the medium term, so we need to kind of get used to it. And boy, he is just being eviscerated by the climate cult over that statement. You know, I'm not sure what to make of a Musk. I'd actually like to meet that guy
to have a conversation with you. I see parallels with Trump and that he'll say things that for an audience that is desperate to hear something that sounds like it might possibly indicate that that person is in favor of liberty to some degree or other, that they just lap it right up and then they shut down their minds to anything that is dissonant. You know, that could that makes
that questionable. Musk has talked greatly about how he's going to be a big component of free speech and how x is now not what Twitter was, and it's simply not the case. I can tell you that I've been shadow banded repeatedly. I'm sure you've dealt with this thing, and recently I even documented it in an article that I wrote about it, that people are unders in that it's up on the site. And Elon Musk, oh my god, his entire operation, he's been the stocking horse. He's been the tip of
the spear for this whole forced electrification thing. He used the government to leverage his business, to extort money through the carbon tax, carbon credit regime, to extort all of the legitimate automakers to finance his business, to foist these ebs out there, and to create kind of a fate, a complete situation where all the other manufacturers now have to create the same kinds of electrified devices,
and that's all we're going to be allowed. And now he's telling us, well, maybe we got to keep we have to stick around with some fossil fuels for a while. I don't understand it. Yeah, the very first time we talked, and I mentioned this because I talked about Elon mus the other day about this, I said, you know, look, the guy's a technocrat, he's a transhumanist. He's not on your side, and he's going to do the same thing to you. These people on the left
are so angry with him now because they feel like he's betrayed them. But I guess when he does it to the right, they will still be just as incapable of saying that they've been betrayed as they are with Trump. But I said, you know, he is. He sold all this stuff to get to become the richest man in the world. And as all these conservatives are writing article after article about oh, Elon Musk, click this, the richest man in the world is going to use his fortune to buy our free
speech back from these people who want to make slaves out of us. It's like, is that really what he's going to do? And I showed a clip of when Theory Breton, the censor in the EU, the guy's head of the censorship in EU, came to Austin after he bought Twitter and lectured Elon Musk about how the DSA was going to be coming into effect. I call Theory Breton, I call him the conspiracy theory. He's part of this
conspira shut down for his speech. And so he comes and just and Elon Musk is just groveling before him, And so you get this conflicting stuff but I think he's just playing to the audience, and I think he's playing him in the same way that Trump did. I think he's smart enough to really
understand. I think he could sit there and watch how Trump played the Maga crowd, and so you know, you can do that too, because he's already talked about how he says Soros has picked these races for district attorneys and other things like that he's realized that he gets more bang for his buck if
he goes to the local elections. Musk is very, very political. You know, he became the richest man in the world by playing politics with all of these dictators worldwide, including our American dictators, and he knows exactly how the political game is being played. He is very understanding of the strategy there about Soros, and he's got his own strategy, and I think that he
is playing the Trump game with all this stuff. Yep. It's like a game of whack a mole and very successful maneuver in that it diverts people from really understanding the nature of their enemy by thinking that he's their friend. And it's the same strategy used by the Trumper people too, And it's to me It's very tragic because most people who are being manipulated in this manner are well meant people. You know, they're trying to grab onto something. They know
that something's very profoundly wrong with the country, and they are desperate. What can we do? What can we do? You know, back in history, if you read about the you know, the late Czarist early pre Communist era, when Russians were exasperated. What is to be done was the name of a famous essay back then, because it seemed as if their world was
crumbling around them, and normal people want order, not chaos. They want calm, not not violence everywhere, and so they're so enervated and they're so upset that they will just latch onto if they think that might be the one that might be our solution, instead of thinking, you know, we need to look into ourselves and we need to take care of ourselves somehow and recover our power that way and stop being led. I don't want a feurer,
you know the German the German word means leader. I'm not looking for a leader. I'm an adult. I can direct my own life, thank you very much. And I think that if people in this country recover that which used to be a typical American mindset. We used to be a nation of skeptical people who practice due diligence. We wanted to if there was somebody presented us with something, we had questions and we demand answers, and if the answers weren't good, we wouldn't put up with it. And we need to
get back to that somehow. Yeah, I've said many times. When I was young, people used to say, well, you know, don't make a federal case out of this. Well, everything is a federal case now, right, Yes, absolutely, so there ought to be a law and it's like, no, there not to be a law about that, and certainly don't want to make it a federal law. But you know, as you mentioned, how Musk has been a stalking horse for all this stuff, and he has this is one of the reasons why he's hated so much on
the left because they feel betrayed by him. This publication of futurism talking about Musk and how he says, well, we're going to still need fossil fuels and the short and medium term, they said Musk is willing to renege on his commitments to the environment to score political points, even if that means undercutting the very mission of his EV maker, Tesla, which warns that a delay in moving two renewables could quote increase the risk of global climate change with potentially
disastrous consequences worldwide. So Tesla is still selling this. Tesla knows how the game is being played. Tesla is still a stocking horse, and Musk is still tied into all this stuff at the very beginning. And here's an example. You know, the cyber truck comes out, and so Jay Leno is talking to the chief designer of the cyber truck and they start talking about inductive
charging. And this happens at exactly the same time that the state of Florida is talking about setting up a road that is going to inductively charge evs. Well, there's not any evs that are inductively charged right now. And so so Musk is going to be there right at the very beginning. You know, he's going to present what these places, you know, what these governments want to do in order to push this EV agenda. He's going to be
there right from the very beginning. He's still on board with this twenty thirty agenda and still on the cutting edge sorry, you know, And as you were reading that, I was doing my little etymological discession that I've become. It's become a roade habit for me when I read and hear things commitment to the environment, Well, how do you do that? I mean, it's just a dumb phrase, right it is. It's a non specific, feel good, virtue signaling phrase. And then get away with this stuff, and
you even read it. I wrote an article vide about something that was in Scientific American and I can't remember I've got so many balls up in New York what it was all about. But Scientific American used to be a reputable public publication. You know. Science used to be about specifics, because that's what the nature of science is. You have to understand what you're talking about in order to talk about it intelligently. It has to be something that can be
examined and it can be evaluated in terms of facts. And if it isn't, for example, climate change, what does that mean exactly? There is no meaning to it exactly because it's a morphus. It's vague. The climate change is okay. Well, so it's a political term. It's a very deliberate political term that's designed to encompass anything at all. And that's the point
of it. In the mind of anybody who has been trained to think critically at all, it ought to raise red flags because if it's nonspecificity, nonspecific nature tiguing me, I've been making way too much coffee this morning. Yeah, well, you know, I that's exactly right. It was for the first eight years or so after Earthday, it was all about a new ice age and it's going to be global cooling. And then all of a sudden
they just flipped the switch and it became global warming. And then it stayed there until out I guess what was about ten fifteen years ago, maybe not even that long, and they did change it to well, it's just going to be climate change, climate change, there be anything, you know. They just give up on the on the ice age, they give up on the warming, and so now they've got a term that they can use and whatever happens. You know, again, if it's too much snow not enough
snow, well it's because of your internal combustion engine. But it truly is amazing to see how he is always there on the cusp of all this stuff, isn't it? And an idiot. You know, he didn't get to be the world's rucious man by being an imbecile. He's definitely smart. The question is whether he's honorable and trustworthy. And I think we know the answer to those questions. And the sad thing too, is that you know where they're going to build this induction road. You know, we talk about if
we build it, they will come. You know, we're going to build this induction road where they charge the cars, and yet there's not any cars that have inductive charging on them yet. But I'm sure that they'll build it. And here is Elon Musk to fulfill that for these government agencies. But this is coming from Republican Florida. Conservative Republican Florida. The Central Florida Expressway Authority is going to be the ones who are going to do this. So
it's a big boondoggle from them. And you know, we've talked for the longest time about the h the autopilot, which was the big, you know, high tech cherry that he put on there, which is not really working, and how he has been able to skate around all these draconium measures that they pull against people like VW for quote unquote cheating on an admission thing. Now you've got Tesla drivers are now being forced to pay after killing two people
on autopilot. And that's one of the things that we all talked about that we talked about over the years, you and I. Who's going to have the liability when the autopilot kills people? Is it going to be the insurance company, Is it going to be the is it going to be Tesla, the automobile company, or is it going to be the person who owned the car and is sitting in the car while they got it on autopilot. And that's what they decided in this particular one. They it's not going to be
Musk, It's going to be you. It's going to be holding the poet. That's because they've got the little lawyer screen in the car and the language in the agreement, the user agreement that says, you know, the driver is responsible or being ready to intervene at any time and maintaining the ability to control the car. But of course it flies at odds with the plane meaning of autopilot. You know, they chose that term deliberately to an aviation term.
You know, so when when when a commercial plane is up at altitude, and it's not necessary to be directly constantly involved in the in the operation of the plane. You can put it on autopilot. The pilot still has to sit there, by law, in the left seat and be monitoring. But that's the term implies that the thing is going to fly itself, which is technically true. But in terms of the car, of course it doesn't. You know, and and and yet you're placed in this paradoxical position as
the person who owns the car. Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to spend the money because I want the car to be capable of driving itself. But then if it recks because I wasn't paying attention to the driving, it's my fault for using the autopilot and must somehow manage just to get away with that. And it's just still that's right. So he's got the trump game down already. Yes, he was just playing four D chess with you when he sold you autopilot. You know, in an autopilot either is or it isn't.
If it's not able to safely drive the car, then it's not autopilot, and there's no point in having it, And you might as well just be the driver of the car, right, that's right. Well, while we're talking about autopilot, take a look at what is going on in the UK. They are now rolling out They rolled it out in Wales and now you've got you know, a Cidique Khan who is rolling it out around the
London area. They're changing the speed limits from thirty to twenty and spending a lot of money to put signage up and they're going to be issuing speeding tickets and all the rest of this kind of stuff. But you know, when you look at this, Eric, it reminds me of what we were just talking about when we said, you know what is a strong point really of
the electric vehicles, and that is straight line acceleration. And so what are you doing now, Well, they're making the cars go down to four cylinder engines, right to need to highlight that, and so when you look at this, you know what is their problem with the self driving taxis with all the Johnny cabs that they just shut down in California and other things like that. Well, it's the fact that they can't really navigate this stuff and they're
super slow, and you know, they can't make these decisions quickly. And so they've got to go really so like you're in some kind of a self driving golf cart or something. So when they start lowering the speed limit from thirty to twenty, what are they doing? Well, first of all, they're frustrating drivers. It's like, why am I even bothering with this thing? Right? And then you know, tickets being issued with you by speed cameras and all the rest of this stuff all the time, and now to
take it down to the speed that Johnny Cab can drive. So it just says, all right, fine, I'm just dying. I can't drive more than twenty miles an hour anyway. So here have the keys to my car, and you can have my car. You know. That's really what they're
doing, isn't it. Oh? Absolutely, you know, And it's something it's what they call law enforcementate clue, you know, to people who like Tesla's and these these ludicrously fast accelerating electric generally, they are going to make it so that you can't make use of the one thing that the EV has that most other cars don't have. They're letting you know, you know,
knock being on wood here, be aware. You know, you're going to have your your one hundred thousand dollars Tesla s with the hypothetical capability of going to zero sixty two point nine seconds. But if you use it, you know, yeah, I'm not sure you're back to these You're back to these hypercards that you know good. Yeah, it can go one hundred and seventy miles an hours. Like, okay, go ahead and try that. You
know. It's like the song you can discern here, Like the ultimate object of all of this is to make driving so unbearable, so unpleasant, so expensive, that people will throw up their hands in despair and say, okay, I give in. I'll just walk, or I'll ride the bike, or I'll take the train. And that's exactly what they want, that's right. It reminds me of the old song. I can't remember the name of it, but the line goes, my Maserati does one ninety five. I
lost a license. Now I can't drive. That's what we're going to be with all this stuff. Now. They want to make life impossible for us, whether it's an automobile or a ceiling fan. They got to take that away from us. It truly is, and they don't care what we think here in this situation. They had half a million people sign a petition against this hated policy. That's why he's reported in the UK lowering it from thirty to twenty. And they just blew it off. They said we don't care.
They said this is going to save lives, and it's like okay, And we know they've had their vision zero for a long time. Everything is about zero. Everything is you know, we got net zero, but they had vision zero, which was to say we're going to have no lives lost. And of course a big part of vision zero was to make sure that we're going to turn everything over to autopilot. And the autopilet is killing people.
It is always going to be a situation. But that's the way they justify all the road diets and all the road calming issues and all the lowering of the speed limits and everything. We got to just stop everybody. I'm dying. And yet everything else that they do in this cynical hypocrisy, and they're set up to depopulation, you know, to create depopulation death by government. Isn't that amazing? Yeah? Both zero is the mark of a fanatic.
It's not reasonable, right, you know, you're talking about something that is being used as a pretext for almost unimaginable tyranny, because you know, in a rational, reasonable world, there are costs and there are benefits, there are pros and cons and it's a spectrum and you weigh things and you come up with a reasonable middle ground, you know, if you're not a bad person, if you're not a somebody who's in the grip of some kind
of deranged religious mania, which is what we're dealing with. Here's I use the word religion. It's secular, but it's still a religion. These people have a faith. It's an evil faith, but they're no less fervent on account of that. And it's kind of the Torquemada esque. There can be
no appostacy anywhere, you know, we cannot permit the slightest heresy. You know, if you violate the dog muff, like the coda, then you were a heretic and you must be burned at the state, you know, metaphorically as well as potentially literally with regard to stuff that we're talking about. Oh yeah, I think it's a really good point you made. It really is. You know, it's the mark of a fanatic to talk about zero and everything. They talk about is zero, you know, absolute zero.
I guess because they're absolutists, you know, they want everything to absolutely go to zero. And when they're talking about saving lives and this petition, they said that, you know, the government is claiming that it reducing this to twenty miles per hour, and they put all upper case everywhere because that's where they want to do. Everywhere saves lives. Yet we get flyers merely claiming that it will. We don't have any evidence about this. We've got opinions
from doctors, but there's no evidence. It's just the same mcguffin that they played on us through this so called pandemic. At least one of the trials they said, however in villages actually reverted their trial because it was causing absolute carnage on the road. They said that every time I go out, they said, nobody is driving at twenty miles an HOURLSH government has failed to produce any convincing evidence to support these claims. Again, it's the same tactic they
keep using. There's never they don't show you the data for the climate stuff. They don't show you the data where there's imposed regulations, they didn't show you the data for their supposed virus and pandemic, and they don't show you the data for their solution. The jabsto it's logical conclusion. Let's forbid all movement. There's a way to achieve vision zero. And even then you're not going to do it because inevitably there's going to be somebody who might have a
heart attack while there lying in bed. You know, you know again, it just it reveals the religious mania of these people, and it's a dishonest mania. They know it is. They're just using this to gaslight people. You know, they put forward, they put forward, well, you know, somebody might die. Oh, it's always a hypothetical, somebody, somebody might be injured as a pretextual excuse and justification to impose something obnoxious and tyrannical
on everybody. And you know, these politicians are really no better than these idiots who are gluing themselves to the highway and creating massive root or roadblocks and causing people with medical emergencies to have a serious medical consequences or even die. That's really what is happening. But the politicians are doing that in reality with their regulations. I've got a comment here for you this is on Rumble.
Thank you very much for the tip. Why j seventy two, I'm very curious, said, why don't we hear about updated tests for COVID nineteen yet, because there's so many variants. How do we test for something new with an existing test? That's a very good question. I love that. What do you think about that's a that's a good retort. Well, you know, I'm not really sure about these tests. Isn't the case that if you put a banana in the blender and cycle it en off, you'll come up
with a positive test? That's right. I've had people, as a matter of fact, Andy who was saying that he's ems and he was saying, yeah, we had a nurse who tested one of these things right out of
the package and got a positive test for it. I think it was all just harassment if you look at it right, because, and I've said this, you look at the con Film Festival and all these elitists show up, and this was just a couple of months before they were going to go the next stage of saying you're going to have to have a vaccine or you're not going to go anywhere. But they held off on that, so they could have their con Film festival in France. As these people showed up, they
were saying, this is disgusting. I have to spit in this container to get a COVID test. And it's like you get to spit, we get this thing ram rotted up our nose if you submit to that. And then in China they were doing it rectally, you know, to the State department employees time. I was disgusting. It's degrading, Yeah, it is. That's the point. I think that that was part of the reason for the
pushing of the masks as well, because it's a humiliation ritual. You know, it's not just making somebody do something, it's making somebody do something that is degrading and embarrassing. Yes, and there's a purpose psychologically for that, and the mask or the same way. You know, how could you believe these little and there's no definition of what a mask is. It could be anything, and so it's all just an exercise in humiliation, obedience, and
power. It was a psychological experience that the experiment. That's true. But that's a very good observation, Yja, I think that is true. You know, to call their bluff on that and say, well, how is it that you got all these new variants and that you haven't changed the test and how do you know how to test for this thing? What are you testing for? Anyway? The whole thing was a scam, wasn't it? And that really kind of shows it right there, doesn't it. Absolutely,
that's great. And I've got another person who left a tip on Rumble. I think you KFB very much and wished us happy Merry Christmas. Thank you very much. I appreciate that and it's great to have you on and I want to wish you a merry Christmas, happy New Year. We won't be talking to you until after the New year, but you know you got how are things there in Virginia? How's your self sufficiency projects? Well, we've only got about thirty seconds, so just a little kay. It's gotten very
cold. I'm grateful for hypercarbon fuels to keep us warm though. That's great, that's great. I won't turn you in. I won't tell anybody that you said that we've got the Stazzi Society is being set up right now, but I will not inform on you. Thank you so much. Eric Peters at ep autos dot com, where you can also find him at Eric Peters. It's Eric Peters autos dot com or ep autos dot com and either one of those. Yeah, you can get to Eric Peters. Thank you so
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