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Fri Episode #2094: Tucker’s 9/11 Deception: Controlled Opposition to Bury the Truth

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01:00:51 – Trump’s Drone Strike: Murder or Self-Defense?
Trump orders a drone strike on a Venezuelan “drug boat,” killing 11. Critics across the legal spectrum say it violated U.S. and international law, crossing into assassination and setting a dangerous precedent.

01:05:49 – Culture of Hate & Political Violence
Discussion pivots to Charlie Kirk’s assassination and America’s growing culture of hate. The point is made that censorship, not speech, breeds hate—and hate ultimately leads to violence and murder.

01:13:48 – Venezuela, Oil & Trump’s Strongman Boasting
Trump brags about frightening fishermen after the drone strike. Commentators argue this is cover for a Venezuela oil grab, comparing Trump to past “strongmen” and condemning J.D. Vance for glorifying extrajudicial killings.

01:25:28 – China War Scenarios
Heritage Foundation “war games” on Taiwan are dissected. The host warns that war with China could devastate America through asymmetric attacks—supply chain collapse, cyberattacks, even infrastructure sabotage.

01:33:31 – Corrupt Courts & Charlotte Killer
Revelations that the magistrate who freed a repeat offender—who went on to murder a young woman—never passed the bar. Blame is placed not just on her but on the systemic corruption of the courts that put her in place.

01:45:55 – Kirk Assassination Conspiracies
Speculation emerges about AI-generated books and manipulated Amazon listings tied to the Kirk shooting. The hosts caution against clickbait “evidence,” stressing the fog of war makes conspiracies easy to spread.

01:55:55 – Distrust & Media Manipulation
Discussion closes with suspicion of both government and influencers like Alex Jones. The assassination narrative is portrayed as confused and potentially weaponized, feeding calls for tighter security and control.

02:01:04 – 9/11 Truth & Building 7
Building 7’s collapse is revisited, framed as controlled demolition. 9/11 is tied to the launch of endless wars and the surveillance state.

02:06:43 – Tucker Carlson & Movement Co-option
Carlson is blasted for once suppressing 9/11 discussion but now stepping in to lead the narrative, raising fears of establishment takeover of the truth movement.

02:16:12 – COVID Shots & Hidden Safety Data
Evidence of scrubbed vaccine safety signals emerges, with thousands of adverse events concealed. The “Trump shot” is portrayed as a deliberate bioweapon program.

02:24:10 – Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories
Speculation swirls about Mossad, the Trump administration, and Ukraine’s hit lists. AI-generated books and rumors of pre-reporting are debated as potential misdirection.

02:38:06 – Reactions to Kirk’s Death
Leftist academics and media figures face backlash for celebrating Kirk’s assassination. Firings at universities and DC Comics highlight a culture justifying political violence.

02:52:22 – Prayer vs. Silence in Congress
House Republicans honor Kirk with prayer and silence, while Democrats jeer, fueling claims of open hostility to Christianity in politics.

03:14:06 – Jack Lawson Joins
Introduction of Jack Lawson, author of the Civil Defense Manual. He frames the U.S. as entering a dangerous cycle of civil unrest and stresses that people must prepare before crises hit.

03:16:48 – Schools & Radicalization
Lawson argues universities and schools are radicalizing youth into violence through Marxist and gender ideology, destabilizing society and priming people for unrest.

03:21:36 – Violence & Civil War Warnings
Drawing on his experience in Africa, Lawson warns that once civil conflict starts, it spirals uncontrollably. He compares America’s trajectory to Spain before its civil war.

03:32:39 – Survival Priorities: Food & Water
Discussion turns to survival basics. Lawson emphasizes that food and water storage are more critical than weapons. He provides tools and free resources to calculate supplies.

03:38:21 – Fourth Turning & Global War Risks
Conversation shifts to the “Fourth Turning” cycle. Lawson and Knight warn that elites may accelerate toward war by 2030, with NATO and France stirring escalation to cover economic collapse.

03:44:07 – Faith, Forgiveness & End Times
Lawson stresses that survival also requires faith. He shares passages from Plus Nothing, emphasizing forgiveness and compassion as essential alongside practical preparation.

03:54:23 – Survival Mindset & Community
Mental resilience is described as the decisive factor in surviving crises. Lawson stresses community defense, neighborhood cooperation, and avoiding denial as the key to survival.


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Transcript

Speaker 1

In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show.

Speaker 2

As o'clock strikes thirteen, It's Friday, the twelfth of September, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. Well, today we're going to begin by taking a look at potential wars and their outcome. Yes, as disturbing as it is to see an individual assassinated, murdered and the consequences of that watching it happen, think about this magnified by hundreds, thousands,

tens of thousands of times. That's what war is. You don't see every single one of the incidents, and you don't have a connection or history of kind of knowing that person, as people did with Charlie Kirk. But it is real, nevertheless, and governments think that they have the right to do that at any given time. So we're going to take a look at potential consequences of a

China war as well as Venezuela. We have some interesting revelations about the judge who released this fourteen time loser who murdered that young woman on the train as well. But we will also take a look at the amazing reactions of people to the Charlie Kirk. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3

Stay with.

Speaker 4

Welcome to the show today on this Friday, folks, hope you're all doing well. I'm gonna give you the headlines that we're gonna be going through now. We're going to take a look at general news. Trump calls his drone strike on an alleged drug boat self defense. It looks more like murder. How China could bring war with Taiwan to the US. It wouldn't be just over there, that's what they're saying. Judge who freed Charlotte killer didn't even go to law school or pass the bar. Surprise, surprise,

Apparently I'm qualified to be a judge. Actually, probably cracker barrel Sir Patron's day, old biscuits and microwaved meat loaf amid ill fated rebrand. Youm delicious, Branson. Flames is the block everything protest movement sweeps the country. Yes, well, France burns itself down about once a year.

Speaker 2

Soaris is Burning was one of the movies that they had about World War Two when as.

Speaker 4

He kids burning, Paris is burning, and Paris is burning.

Speaker 2

That's true now, but for very different reasons. Well, Trump calls his drone strike and alleged self defense. That looks like murder. And this is from Reason magazine. And these are the assessments of people who were part of the legal structure of the Department of Defense, even people who were in his own administration. Previously last week, he ordered a drone strike that sank a speedboat in the Caribbean, killing all eleven people on board. He described targets as

members of Venezuelan gang. I just call him the Trendyes, it's trendy, ragua whatever. But they were at sea and international waters, transporting illegal narcotics headed to the United States, he said. Although the men could have been intercepted and arrested Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who told reporters that the President decided their summary execution was appropriate as a deterrent to drug trafficking, and so did hegseth and they

boasted that this isn't the last time that'll happen. They didn't see it as mistake, but as a new precedent of precedent Trump. The New York Times cited unnamed American officials familiar with the matter. So the boat appeared to have turned around before the attack. Started because the people on board had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, and they will say, well, see it shows that they

were guilty. I don't know. It seems to me, especially considering the marks of President Trump, that people might look at the shoot first crazy Americans and try to avoid though I certainly would.

Speaker 5

Who would run from a military gunship if they aren't guilty?

Speaker 2

That's right everybody now, And he's boasting about that, he said, Trump said, I think maybe even fishermen will have a problem, that might think twice about going out. Is that really

the way that things should be? The attack crossed a fundamental line in the Department of Defense that is resolutely committed to upholding for many decades, namely that accept, in rare and extreme circumstances that are not present here, the military must not use lethal force against civilians, even if they are alleged or even known to be violating the law. So Georgetown law professor Marty Letterman. Letterman adds that the September second drone strike appears to have violated the Executive

Order prohibiting assassination. Well wait a minute, Trump assassinated Solomony. He didn't have a problem with that and arguably qualifies as murder under federal law in the Uniform Code of Criminal Justice. I know that everybody wants to talk about Charlie Kirk, and we will follow up with the things that are happening with that. It's amazing to me, it's almost entirely the news that's been taking up with it.

And it is a tragedy, and it is not only a personal tragedy, but it's a tragedy that we have this culture, this cold war of hate now, especially between the two sides, but especially on the left. But we see this mirrored on both sides where people want to just destroy the other side or punish or lock up the other side because of political beliefs. And certainly there are dangerous people, and they're dangerous people once we've seen

on both sides of the political aisle. But to just do a blanket condemnation of people, understand that it is not speech that is hate, it is censorship that is hate, and eventually winds up that hate eventually winds up with murdering. You know, Jesus is right when he told us you've heard thou shalt not kill, But he says, if you have hate, in your heart and anger in your heart. That is essentially murder, because that's ultimately where it leads.

And we are seeing that in our society now. Though we decided that we didn't really care as a society what Jesus had to say, the truth of it is being demonstrated to us now. And the reality is is that when you look at a government that doesn't have to go through legal due process, that is the most dangerous thing that you can have. That is the largest terrorist and most dangerous terrorist gang that you can never have, is a government that has divorced itself from the rule

of law, thereby divorcing itself from due process. I mentioned when this happened, I compared it immediately to what do Tarte, the authoritarian dictator of the Philippines, did when he told the police, if you see somebody that you think is dealing drugs and Philippines, we're going to end this. Just shoot them on site. And they killed twelve thousand people.

And so when you look at this, this is compounded the whole issue that I've had for a very long time of how the United States, as you want to talk about nazis, what was it that people were concerned about with the nazis the fact that they started the war, right, they were the ones who invaded their neighbors and so forth. Everybody understands that's morally wrong. We don't anymore.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

It was understood that when Pearl Harbor was bombed, regardless of what FDR had done to stand aside and stand down and to keep people from knowing about it and setting that up, and his involvement prior to that in terms of taking sides in the war, regardless of all that, if you do an attack without declaring war, that was infamy, and it still is infamy. The principle has not changed. Even if we have changed or we no longer have principles, that is still the principle. And so what Trump is

doing here is reprehensible. A New York University law professor Ryan Goodman, former Defense Department lawyer, says it's difficult to imagine how lawyers and signed the Pentagon could have arrived at a conclusion that this was legal, rather than the very definition of murder under international law rules that the Department Offense has long accepted. Well, yes, yeah, this is a question that Trump.

Speaker 6

Well, I would say they're going to be in trouble. We'll let them know about that.

Speaker 3

We heard that happen, but it wasn't really over, not like they described.

Speaker 1

But I would say general, if.

Speaker 3

They do that, you have a choice of doing anything you want.

Speaker 7

Okay, if they fly in a dangerous position, I would say that you can, you or your captains can make the decision as to what they want to do.

Speaker 1

Didn't go over say it?

Speaker 2

How close did they get?

Speaker 7

He said the Well, I don't want to talk about that, but if they do put us in a dangerous position.

Speaker 6

Let's be shut down. Thank you very much, everybody. So we're going to now cover the G twenty.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So what he was responding to there was the he'd made a statement that there had been some Venezuelan planes that had flown close to the ships that were there, and if they perceived them be a threat, they could shoot them down. And of course that's not really anything that is different or unusual. Yes, if you perceive a threat, you can defend yourself. These moral issues for governments are no different than the moral issues that we have as individuals.

If somebody has broken into your house, if they are coming at you, you are allowed to defend yourself even to kill them, but not if you see them and suspect them of doing something in your yard you don't have to do, or if they're running from you, and that's the other issue. As this boat turned away, then that makes it even more complicated because now they are certainly no threat to the US military. They've turned away,

and they still shot them. As Trump told it, the attack was justified because the Trendees, a designated foreign terrorist organization operating under the control he said of Maduro, was responsible for mass murdered, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the United States in the Western hemisphere. So his own government, as a matter of fact, disputes the fact that the gang is under the control

of Maduro. But I'll just say, even if somebody is known as a criminal, you can see them in the act of the crime. It has always been the requirement of government that you apprehend them. If we want to set up a death penalty for these cartel gangs, then that still means that they're not shot on site on the street because of what that could entail. That means they still get arrested, whether it's by the police or by the military and you seize the property that's there.

As I said, the very same time this is happening, you had the Coastguard stopping ships and they are addicting a great deal of drugs that are coming into the United States. But they don't execute everybody on board. Even if they stop the ship and prove that it has drugs on it, they're not allowed to execute everybody. You're still bringing back for due process. And if the government wants to make a capital offense selling drugs or delivering drugs,

that's a different issue that needs to be debated. That is where we are now, though, because we never debated making drugs illegal in the first place. When they made alcohol illegal a prohibition, we had the eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution. There's not even any constitutional authority for the drug war, let alone to kill people without any due process or even proving that they are involved with the drug trade. Drug cartels have wrought devastating consequences on American

communities for decades, he said. No, I would say that the drug cartels were created by the drug war, and the drug war created by the UN. We're now out there murdering people without any proof to enforce a UN agenda. Trump said in a September fourth letter to Congress, we have now reached a critical point where we must meet this threat to our citizens and our most vital national interests with the US military force in self defense. So he's claiming that we can go on offense and self defense.

That's essentially what the Japanese were saying with Pearl Harbor. You know, we got to kill them before they kill us. Last week, Trump joked about potential for deadly heirs. He said, I think anybody that saw that is going to say, I'll take a pass. I don't even know about fishermen. They may say, I'm not going to get on the boat. I'm not going to take a chance. This is the This is the ranting of somebody who is nothing other

than a thug. He's proud of what he did. He's proud of the fact that fishermen are going to be afraid to get into their boats. They're afraid of me, right, this is what disgusted me so much.

Speaker 5

But wait a minute, I thought everyone was okay with US military boats unless they were drug dealers. Surely the fishermen wouldn't run away if that, if they run. That means they're drug dealers.

Speaker 2

That's right. So I'll just have to go on shore and kill them if they won't get into boats for us to kill them. That's what they really want. They want an excuse. They got a chip on their shoulder. They want an excuse to invade Venezuela and it will be mass carnage. Just just look at you know how disturbing the shot of taken on Kirk was, Charlie Kirk, And think about that. That's the reality of war. Many times, it's even worse than that. Sometimes somebody doesn't die immediately,

but they die in agony, in pain. That's usually the case. Are we going to inflict that for what purpose? So that Trump can boast about what a strong man he is. It's disgusting. He's no different than the people that they have claimed with their enemies. Member. When George H. W. Bush called Manuel Noriegay a strong man, nor Ye Gay, you know, well, we've got a strong man in the White House, now, don't we. That's what these strong men do. Killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the

highest and the best use of our military, said JD. Vance. I got to say I would never support this guy ever, based on that statement alone. There's many other reasons not to support him, concerning his connections with the technocracy, his connections with MR and a self amplifying technology, and the rest of this stuff, but that in and of itself shows that he is not qualified to be president ever. Ever,

and Ran Paul called him out on it. A commentator observed, the killing citizens of another nation who are civilians without any due process is called a war crime, and he says, I don't give a blank what you call it. Remember when conservatives, do you remember when Al Gore made the statement, there's no controlling legal authority here. Everybody had a big

issue with that. Everybody had a big issue when Obama assassinated using a drone, assassinated someone who was an American citizen technically, even if not in reality, in a foreign country, said oh, you can just select anybody, even an American citizen, and kill them without any due process. Because of the principle involved. It wasn't that the guy was a good guy.

He might have very well have been a terrorist. But even at that time, conservatives were concerned because when it was not somebody that was a part of their party, when it's a Democrat like al Gore or Obama, their thought process is not clouded by partisan loyalty. They can look at the principles involved, and the principles are the same here. So Rampaul responded to JdE events. As I pointed out last week, what a despicable, thoughtless sentiment it

is to glorify killing someone without a trial. And that's what we're seeing from both Trump and jd Events. It is sickening and thoughtless. Trump's justification for that shortcut is perverse, says Reason. Although he describes the act as an act of self defense, he does not claim that the alleged drug traffickers were engaged in a literal attack on the

United States. To accept Trump's framing, you have to accept the premise that transporting illegal drugs is tannamount to violent aggression, and of course, to the left, speech is tannamount to violent aggression as well. You know, people always try to make that leap to justify what they really want to do. That would be consistent with Trump's often expressed desire to kill drug dealers, but it is not consistent with the

way that laws or ordinarily enforced. And when I see that I always want to put laws, drug laws and quotes air quotes, because they can't be laws if they violate the Constitution, and clearly they do. We have two constitutional amendments that made it clear. The eighteenth Amendment created alcohol prohbiation that twenty first ended it. We have two amendments to the Constitution that show that according to the clear reading of the Constitution ninth and tenth Amendment, they

cannot assume the power to ban anything. They need a constitutional amendment to ban anything like that. So, in the absence of violent resistance, a police officer who decided to shoot a drug suspect dead rather than take them into custody would be guilty of murder. Morally speaking, the situation is no different. That much is clear, even without considering the fundamental injustice of criminalizing conduct that does violence to no one's rights, such as exchange of drugs for money.

And again this is a reason so they they do not support the drug war at all. Again making a distinction, as Lyceendus Spooner did, between crime and vice, that vice is something that somebody is involved in that they do voluntarily. That's what makes it so difficult to shut down vice, and by that we mean things like prostitution, drug dealing, all these other things which are really fundamentally moral issues. We have two people that are willing to engage in

this process. Even if it is something that is credibly harmful, even suicidal, you're not going to stop it by enacting laws. So the trendy designation as a terrorist organization does not affect this analysis. Trump administration officials admit that they could have interdicted the boat and detained the people on board, notes George Mason, law professor Ilia Summan. They did not pose any imminent threat of violence. They were not combatants

in any war against the US. Calling them narco terrorists does not change these obvious facts as reasons. Matthew Petty observes, the unprovoked attack on a boat allegedly carrying drugs shows how the label of terrorism makes everyone killable, and that's really what we're talking about the aftermath of nine to eleven, the idea that you're either with us or you're a terrorist.

It was a war on terrorism. It was a war on a tactic not necessarily identifying the people who did this, and of course they tried to pretend that it was Afghanistan and men in caves who did this a ludicrous idea. The rhetorical license to kill does not amount to legal justification. The State Department designation merely triggers the government's ability to implement asset controls and other economic sanctions under the International

Emergency Economic Powers Act. So what they're saying is you label somebody a terrorists, then what that does is that triggers asset control and economic sanctions and things like that. Just like when Trump made the emergency decoration about the so called pandemic, it was to release money. So much of this stuff always has to do with money, doesn't it.

It has nothing to do with authorizing Defense Department to engage in targeted killings, which is why the US military doesn't go round killing members of all designated foreign terrorist organizations. Nor can Trump cite any other statute that transforms murder

into self defense in this context. Instead, he is relying on his quote constitutional authority as commander in chief and chief executive to use deadly force against civilians he perceives as a threat to national security and foreign policy interests, and again engaging in assassination of foreign leaders and all the rest of this stuff he needs to be impeached. They will never impeach him for the stuff that he

should be impeached for. And the impeachment for nonsense charges, not violations of the constitution, those types of things that were done. Essentially, we are something that's giving him a pass when it comes to this stuff. People are so used to seeing bogus charges brought against Trump that they just roll their eyes when impeachment is mentioned. But if ever there was a president in my lifetime that deserves

to be impeached, it's Donald Trump. Since Trump frequently describes a legal immigration as an invasion, might he decide that he has the authority to order the summary execution of

people trying to enter the country without permission. Scott Anderson, Senior fellow of the National Security Law Program at Columbia Law School, says many of the legal arguments that Trump administration has advanced in relation to narcotics trafficking might also extend to other for far more troubling uses of force that certain administration officials have reportedly raised, For example, the use of lethal force against unlawful migrants whose transport is

facilitated by the trendy Kang White House spokesperson Anna Kelly claims Trump quote acted in line with the laws of armed conflict to protect our country from evil narco terrorists trying to poison our homeland. Nothing can be further from the truth. We have a group of sycophants in the Trump administration that will openly bowlface lie to the American public to support their lying leader. It's amazing to me, and that includes people like Carol Lying Lovett and Squeaker

Mouse Johnson. But even if you accept the specious equation of drug smuggling and armed agression, it seems relevant that the alleged drug boat reportedly was running back when the drone strike was launched. If someone is treating it retreating, where is the imminent threat? Says Rear Admiral Donald Guter, formerly the top judge advocate for the Navy, when he was asked in an interview with New York Times, where

is the quote self defense? They're gone. That's gone if that ever existed, and I don't think that it ever did. Rear Admiral James McPherson, who served in the same position as Gouter, was also General Counsel to the Army during the first Trump administration, and he was similarly skeptical. I would be interested if they could come up with a

legal basis for what they did. If, in fact, you can fashion a legal argument that says these people were getting ready to attack the US through the introduction of cocaine or whatever. If they turned back, then that that threat has gone away. He said, it's a terrible precedent, said the Jeffrey corn formerly the Army Chief Advisor on the.

Speaker 1

Law of War.

Speaker 2

He said, we have crossed a line here. And I agree. You've got a lot of people saying that we have crossed the line, and I think we have with a shooting of Charlie Kirk. But this is a line that has been crossed and it is very dangerous. It's what I always call him, Precedent Trump, not President Trump. He is always about crossing rubicons left and right. So when we look at this, how would a Chinese war with Taiwan?

Would that come to American soil? This is a question asked by the Daily Signal, which is actually part of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative organization, And so they're kind of wargaming, you know, what would happen, And they don't even get a tiny fraction of it. As we always say, you know, when you're talking about a war, whether it's a civil war or foreign war, everybody has a cavalier attitude. This is going to be a piece of case for

our side. If they didn't have that attitude, if they thought they were going to lose, they wouldn't get into the war, right If they cared about the cost to their own military or to civilians, they wouldn't enter the war. So it's based on hubrists, arrogance, pride, and disregard for human life. That's what we always see with these wars. And so in this article they say that think about all the different things that China could do. They could

start wildfires all over the place. For example, they could attack our infrastructure, which is incredibly vulnerable. As a matter of fact, we'll be talking to Jack Lawson today in the third hour about things like that, and about some op ed pieces that he put out about about the shootings that were happening, not about Charlie Kirk, but about

the school shootings that were happening. And of course there was another school shooting happening that happened the day that Charlie Kirk was killed, but it was completely swamped with the coverage of Charlie Kirks, so nobody even talked about that. But look at how the you know, anybody who wanted to attack the US today with asymmetric warfare. We have such a vulnerable supply chain. And that was the first

time I talked to Jack Lawson. It was about the vulnerability of the supply chain and why that showed a need to prepare for your food and other things like that. That's what his book is about, and we saw that in spades in twenty twenty. We have a long, complicated, just in time supply chain that is easily disrupted, especially if somebody wanted to do it on purpose. Just look

at what these people did, arguably with stupidity. Although I believe that there was malice involved in twenty twenty with the pandemic lockdowns, I don't think it was simply stupidity. I think it was malice. But imagine if it was a foreign power like China and with our poorest they could easily do all of this stuff. They've already got

enough people in here to do that. So when you look at how vital Taiwan is to the electronics industry, for example, whether or not Taiwan followed a scorch druss policy and destroyed the factories to keep them from falling into Chinese hands, or whether or not they did fall

into Chinese hands. Either way, we'd be cut off from the major supplies of top of the line stay the art semicductor development that is being done manufactured in Taiwan now and have a devastating long term effect on both consumer goods as well as military goods in the United States. But they could attack our supply chain in any number of ways. And so that's really kind of what they're

wargaming here. And that's over and above things like hypersonic missiles, which they don't even get into in this article, the primary tools of war, or when you look at things like again, they're not paying attention to the change into autonomous killing machines like drones and things like that. So there's a lot of weapons that have been developed that we've not seen deployed in more conventional warfare. But it's the asymmetric attacks on America that could easily be the

turning point with all this stuff. She reportedly told Trump that he won't invade Taiwan, while Trump is present, but it's also said to have told his military to be ready to seize Taiwan by twenty twenty seven. So he's still going to do it in Trump's administration unless he thinks that Trump will die by twenty twenty seven. Cyber attacks and attacks on the infrastructure, even disease, they say in this. But again that is going back to the fake narrative of the China flu, which I don't agree

with that at all. That's one of the things that the leftist pressed when they said controversial things that Charlie Kirk said, and they go back to the pandemic, and I thought, yeah, that's interesting. What do you say about the pandemic. Well, he called it a the China flu. B he said he could come in through the poorest borders and all the rest of stuff. All of that is what there were gaming here. But that is not what I think happened at all. It was self inflicted

with a bioweapon of the Trump shot. Michael Cunningham, who until recently served as a research fellow the Heritage Foundation, disagrees and says that China would likely would not likely use the virus as a weapon of attack since the Chinese could get harmed by it as well. But again it is I don't think that any of that pandemic stuff is real at this point in time. No one is talking about new military attack in it. But they said, once a war breaks out that involves the US and China,

then all of the worst case scenarios are on the table. Yeah, these people will recklessly RUSSI ahead, just as we see them doing in Central and South America.

Speaker 4

One of the sorry interrupts. One of the funny things is that these Zionists on the right will relentlessly say that Israel has a right to that land. And then when China says, well, technically Taiwan was ours and they are still ethnically a Chinese people, so we have a right to that land, they'll say, oh no, no, no, yeah, if one of these countries has a right to one of these places, technically China has a better claim to

Taiwan than Israel has to Palestine. I don't support China taking Taiwan, but it has a better claim than Israel does to Palestine. When you look at it from this angle.

Speaker 2

Well, the angle I look at it is the right of secession. I always I'm always sided with secession. If at first you don't secede, try try again. A t short of that once upon a time. But you know, I think the right of self governance is the real issue. But again, it isn't about respecting rights. It's about might makes right. That is what we see with all of

these things. World war scenarios in which the US and trying to battle it out, or in which China manages to largely stay out of the war and gets to pick up the pieces and establish a new world order can't be ruled out. And of course a new world order is what the globals want, and they've always pushed to make sure that China is going to be the leader of that new world order. Well, let's move on from that to the war that's being conducted against us.

In terms of ignoring the results of criminals when they are arrested, I mean, you know, this is I think one of the things that feeds into people's frustration, saying, you know, we need to just execute these people. Well, because we have a justice system so called that doesn't punish the guilty, but in many cases punishes people who've done nothing seriously wrong, if anything at all wrong. At all, the judge who freed the Charlotte killer didn't even go

to law school or pass the bar. And by the way, this is kind of interesting if you look at it. This is a magistrate judge in North Carolina and they are not required by law to be licensed lawyers. They aren't elected either. The way the process works, I'll look this up. They are nominated by the county clerk of the court, who is elected, but then that person nominates people, and then they are appointed by the senior superior court judge for that district, and then they are supervised by

the chief district court judge. So the bottom line, all these people are saying that this magistrate judge needs to be taken out. That doesn't get to the root of the problem. You should get rid of the clerk of the court, the senior superior court judge who appointed the person, and the person who supervised them, the chief district court judge.

Speaker 4

Removed from office, not taken out in the other sense of the words.

Speaker 2

All those people need to be taken out of the job. They all failed. This is a guy who had again long rap sheet fourteen times. He had been arrested for various things and his family members all said that he was certifiably crazy, and none of them did the job that they were supposed to do.

Speaker 5

And when you think about it, this is like a much worse scenario. If it was one elected official that got in with a bunch of Soros money, yeah, then that would be one thing. But this is one elected official that got in, probably with a lot of Soros money, and then gets to a point a horde of other minions. Yeah, this chaos to attack us continually. These people are still in getting more people in that are going to do the same.

Speaker 4

Thing exactly.

Speaker 5

The next step up. It's an order of longitude worse than these guys that get in and just release every criminal. They're getting in, guys that put in people that release every criminal.

Speaker 2

It's a yeah, it's a systemic corruption, isn't it. You're absolutely right, Lance. It would be bad enough that this person been directly elected with money from Soros, but there's a whole structure behind this, whole institutional corruption that is there, which makes it even worse. And this judge, apparently this magistrate who doesn't have a law degree and who didn't care to investigate the background of this guy before setting

him free. This individual was apparently picked because of Democrat dei politics or qualification seems to be that she's a lesbian.

Speaker 4

Isn't that lovely?

Speaker 2

Yeah, so again I fire not only the magistrate, but all three of these people as well.

Speaker 5

Her real qualification is that she's willing to let murderers go free. That's what they're looking for in these criminal scumbags.

Speaker 2

That's right. I know.

Speaker 4

I read this quote the other day, but I think a Pars repeating again the one from Alexander souls Nitsen. Your punishment for having a knife when they searched you would be very different from the thiefs. For him to have a knife was mere misbehavior, tradition, he didn't know any better. But for you to have one was terrorism. That's how they view it. They look at this, they see this murderous, violent, repeat offender, criminal and just oh, he doesn't know any better. Oh no, he just did.

Speaker 2

He didn't.

Speaker 4

He wasn't raised right, He's poor, he didn't have the right advantages in life. If you are caught in the smallest process crime, they will throw the book at you. You're supposed to know better. As a matter of fact, two tier justice system. If you are.

Speaker 2

There's an article. I don't know if we'll get to it today. I'll just mention it briefly. It was from the Mesa's Institute and they were saying Trump's got a war going on his Department of Justice. This is the guy who is moving it has now become his major asset in his family. They've made major personal moves into crypto, and a part of him winning this election was embracing crypto and saying that the government had moved unjustly against

Ross Olbrik Remember, and he pardoned Ross Elbrick. But now the Trump administration and this same guy, the same corrupt individual, the deputy Attorney General or whatever, who's forget what his name was, who interviewed Glaine Maxwell and then released the notes and stuff, Blanche or something like that. He's got

a woman's name, but he's not a transgender. That's his last name or anyway, the same guy has continued with prosecutions that were begun under the Biden administration, and they've arrested people who were software developers creating personal custody digital wallets that were outside of their system. Todd Blanch, Yeah, that's it. I knew it was he's a blanche is doing this anyway? Uh he uh. They they're there. These guys are looking at decades in prison because they developed

a piece of software. And as Mesas said, this is like locking up Afford CEO because somebody committed a crime with one of their vehicles. And uh, that's not just an is said case. There's two of these that they

talk about in the Mesas things. So you've got somebody just like like what you were talking about, Travis, is like, if the government perceives what you're doing as a threat to their power that they want to exercise, they're gonna put you in jail for decades, just like they did with Ross All Break.

Speaker 4

They'll make an example out of you. Yeah, that's right way to chill it for everyone makes say if you do this, yeah, this is what happens.

Speaker 2

But if there's somebody that is certifiably insane and has been violent with people on the street, that person gets released. It's not at all. It's not at all about protecting.

Speaker 4

I mean, both those things serve their purpose. Both of those serve as a chilling effect. You know, there's these violent murders out there, so you don't want to go out it makes you want to vote for more extreme police measures. And also, you know, it's just they hate you. So if one of if this guy takes out somebody, kills somebody, sure that's another bonus for them. They despise the average American people. The people in Washington are wicked

beyond our comprehension. We continually say it, but it is hard for us to imagine, you know, the level of evil that these people commit to, just because.

Speaker 2

And of course I'm protected with the army of security guards and police.

Speaker 4

Everywhere they go they have someone that is willing allegedly to lay down their life to protect them or lay yeah, and so they don't have to worry about this kind of thing. They live in these little bunkers, these walled gardens, these ivory towers, or they can look down on us and our struggles and go, oh, isn't that isn't that wonderful?

Speaker 5

And then you can talk about how the punishment for having the knife for self defense is far worse than the punishment for the criminal. It reminds me of the story we covered the other day of a person pointing out that if you look up Daniel Penny on was it ap there was one hundred stories about him, criticizing him. But yeah, days after the thing, they look up this guy still nothing, that's right.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and then they were upset that the conservatives had focused on and they said, you know, we got to stop that footage from being released. We don't want people to know what's really going on. That is in the local version of what national security is about. You know, the national security state is there to protect the government. It's not there to protect the nation. It's not there to protect us. It's actually getting us involved in one

conflict after the other. So last time this guy was arrested, he called nine to one one and claimed that he had been given quote a man made material unquote the controlled when he ate, what he said and where he walked. Please shupport that Brown became agitated when the officers did not believe him, leading to charges of misusing the nine to one one system. So that's it's not that this guy is absolutely bonkers. They you know, you called nine one one illegitimately.

Speaker 4

My question is he said, I mean, he's insane, so he's not logically thinking about anything, but it's controlling what you're saying doing eating thinking apparently is it making you call nine one one. How are you able to call nine one one and tell them about this if it's controlling you. But of course when you're crazy, Yeah, they're not actually processing information or thinking about anything logically.

Speaker 2

He told his family member, I think it was a brother that when he killed this young woman. He said, yeah, my hand just took over and didn't have any control over it. Again, this guy is perhaps not schizophrenic, but demonically possessed. I would say, I'm willing to believe you, and let's deal with where we are with this anyway.

He had been previously arrested for assaulting his sister in charge of possession of a firearm by a fellon, but none of these things were there to put him in jail, in addition to a five year prison sentence for robbery with a dangerous weapon. Again, when you look at robbery with a dangerous weapon, that's not as serious as creating an app for a digital wallet. That's the thing that

they really are concerned about. So on Monday, North Carolina Republican lawmakers issued a formal letter calling for her removal. But again, they're not talking about removing these other judges who these other individuals who nominated her, appointed her, supervised her.

They're going to stay. This decision was made despite brown extensive criminal history, which included at least fourteen prior arrests for serious offenses such as possession of a firearm by a felon, robbery with a dangerous weapon, and physical assault of his sister. Despite his history a violent and unstable behavior, Magistrate Stokes released Brown without requiring bond or imposing any

meaningful conditions to safeguard the public. So the controversy surrounding this judge is expected to continue a state lawmaker's way accountability measures in the wake of the killing. Then to go back and get Pulty or some of Musk's people to take some AI and go back and look at her entire career. There as a magistrate with a fine tooth comb and the people who pointed, nominated and supervised her as well. Well, we're going to take a quick break, but before we do, you want to take a look.

Speaker 4

At some of the Yes, we've got b. L. Houghten, who is Anastasia J. Casey, stereous author behind the shooting of Charlie cook book, sparking intrigue. The book appeared on Amazon nine to nine, one day prior to the shooting. I've seen people say that I've seen screenshots of it, but the link is dead. You cannot look at it.

And with the ability, as far as I'm aware, to edit the HTML on basically any web page and make it say just about anything you want on your end and take a screenshot of it, I am always wary of these things unless you can confirm it for yourself. I don't trust screenshots. There's an entire industry that's built around generating clickbait, and they're not above, you know, faking

this kind of thing. They're not above putting up some AI book on Amazon or having placeholders there that they can quickly edit and swap for different things, and then editing the HTML to make it look different. Again, it's possible. Anything is possible. These people are evil, and there's again I don't blame anyone for not believing, you know, the official story.

Speaker 2

We're going to get in some of the questions and conspiracy ideas later on in the programs.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's just I'm always wary of this kind of thing. There. As I said, there's an entire industry that's built around sensationalism and getting clicks, and these kinds of headlines always generate clicks, and always question the source of where this is coming from, Bill Houghten, how could you know it was going to happen for it took place on Utah Valley University if it is real, if it did actually appear beforehand, and then you know that is questionable. But

I saw the cover of the book. It looks like it was AI generated and as far as you know, it looks like it's AI. So it looks like someone very quickly through this together to generate outrage and clicks on articles for the you know, gossip mill that has grown up over the years online.

Speaker 5

I have the thing that.

Speaker 8

He had here.

Speaker 5

This is the article that he like.

Speaker 4

Okay, yeah, what's the website that's on Times Now World? Interesting? Yeah, again, that's I've never heard of before. Yeah, I would just again, it's possible. But again, I believe you can basically edit the HTML of any webpage on your end to have it display just about anything you want. And since I've only seen screenshots and I'm not able to confirm that it was posted with my own eyes, I don't want to make any claims on it.

Speaker 5

Well, I don't know if it's true or not. The author of this article says it was put up and then removed from Amazon, but screenshots when it was still up are still there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, which I guess part of the question would be, what would the motivation be to do that? Yeah, you know, if somebody was involved, if there was a conspiracy and there was something like that, what would be the motivation for them to tip their hand and say, yes.

Speaker 4

The people involved with this are all already mega rich as a general rule, they're not going to need the money they make off an Amazon book. That there could be again more of just the haha, rubbing your face in it. But I tend to believe personally this is more rumor mill nonsense to generate clicks for websites so that they can speculate wildly and say, look, we found this.

Speaker 5

I'm not saying that it's true or anything. I don't know. As you said, screenshots are easily adopted. But if this was a legitimate thing, it could be a matter of someone putting up their manifesto preemptively.

Speaker 4

That is true. Potentially the Lee manifesto from the shooter scheduled to go out at a certain time that then got removed. Who knows, Wally Walrus? Are we at war with Venezuela? Not officially, not officially.

Speaker 2

And Trump's mind, we are, and he's already laid out the plans and that's been leaked. That's out there. Possum again, it's the oil.

Speaker 4

I think we do love ourselves some oil possom king. They are the law, they are the Lawsonovante seventeen seventy six. Vance is a Peter Teele created political puppet. Yes, I would have gone for a less creepy puppet. Solo Cat nineteen eighty Trump petrend pretends to care about the assassination of Charlie Kirk while he assassinates people elsewhere. Yeah, Biel Hoten,

Oh they got him now. Third one who had time to jump off the roof with no weapon, but found the rifle nearby woods in a box wrapped in a towel. I saw the video of the guy jumping off the roof.

Speaker 2

It's how'd the rifle get to that area if he wasn't carrying it when he jumped off.

Speaker 4

From Yeah, i'd be I want to know exactly. I want to see a diagram of where everything was found and ever how it was all laid out. I want to see it. Somebody put that together.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I thought about that as well. We don't have the video here, but they just released last night the video. They'd released some stills of the guy. Now they've released some videos, and one of those was him running across the roof not carrying anything and then and that's very easy to see because when he gets to the corner you can see it. He's hanging there by his hands, so he's choosing both hands to hang before he drops to the ground, and did not injure himself. Like what was.

Speaker 3

Booth?

Speaker 2

Oh I'm looking at that, John. Yeah, Now he had Converse snickers, which Booth did.

Speaker 5

Not have, so compoof to this guy, that's pretty rude.

Speaker 2

John wolkspoof. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4

I need to scroll that up a little bit. Lance, But we've got con Think, Thank you very much. Con Think, he says, Charlie Kirk was moderate. Yeah he was. He was very very center line Republican things that would have been just standard common sense about ten to fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2

That's the thing that surprised me when I looked at this British article saying the five controversial areas. Five controversial areas comments that Charlie Kirk made. I look, I thought that's pretty milpe those stuff.

Speaker 4

Actually just I've never heard Charlie Kirk say anything that would be controversial to a standard line of thinking again ten to fifteen years ago. I don't agree with the stance on Zionism. I think that should be controversial. I think that should be seen as something that we should debate and have arguments about. But that's it. Everything else is just Yeah, I kind of agree with that. Yeah, sure, I.

Speaker 5

Mean across the board, it was pretty much the position of the Republican Party, mainline Republicanism.

Speaker 2

Especially under Trump. Yeah, he was a big part of the Trump organization. And I think a big part of why Trump won because Trump did very well with age demographic and I think it's largely due to Charlie Kirk and his organization as well. Yeah. B. L.

Speaker 4

Houghton got him a new Richard Jewel be My Valentine says his speech was AI who they referring to.

Speaker 5

I've seen people talking about this. Trump put up a video and in the video there's one spot where it's two different cuts and they do what's known as a morph cut where they have a quick crossfade between the two cuts, and because you're not going to be in the exact same position, Yeah, it creates a sort of warping effect. If you look at the rest of the video, it looks good. There was just one morph cut, and that can look like an AI artifact. There are AI

artifacts that sometimes look like that. But I highly tout Trump would have put out an AI video talking about the Charlie Kirk shooting after it happens. There's absolutely no reason anyone would do that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, exactly why when he do that? That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's a lot of these people. While I think Trump is kind of a fool, a lot of the people surrounding him are, while wicked, incredibly intelligent and very very good at cloaking their hand and their motives. They tend not to take risks unless they need to. Yona

Andy Wodie. At least that's my opinion. I don't fault anyone for disagreeing on anything, Yanna any Wody good to see Yona Satan Yaho pronounced him dead fourteen minutes after he was shot in ten minutes before the hospital did amazing Jesse Lee Peter's amazing timed non tides forcing masks on Americans broke the social contract. My neighbors. Voting to do that to my family is unacceptable. They are Yes, they are violating the NAP. They are using violence.

Speaker 2

Well, social contract is a bill of rights in my opinion, I don't know people since, as one person said, I think it was I think it was Lysander Spooner who said the Constitution's a document. I can't find my signature and so I'm not beholden to it. But you know, these people who are in political office take an oath to it as a condition of their office, and so it is their signature is on that, and that's what they have broken.

Speaker 4

So yeah, Yona Annie Wodi. Presidents are just salesmen for Pentagon wars of bullets and time bombs. Trump is a pretty good salesman for that sort of thing. I'm not buying, but a lot of people are. Don't frag me. Bro Israel cannot do what it does about the support of the US, UK, EU and DHARPA tech. That's why they need people like Jeffrey Epstein getting blackmail on people so they can make sure that someone doesn't grow a spine and go, hey, wait a minute, what's the deal with

apec Phonsie Bear morning? The New York Times in LA Times reported Kirk being shot the day before. On the ninth, Amazon Books released online the shooting of Charlie Kirk one day before complete style. Again, I've seen people talking about The New York Times and LA Times reporting on it. I cannot find a real source of it. I can't find pictures of an article. I can't find it. I've seen clips from Alex to Alex Jones talking about it, but I haven't been able to verify it for myself.

Speaker 2

That makes it sus right there.

Speaker 4

Again. Like I said, will throw.

Speaker 2

Everything against the wall if it's sensational. He does not care folks about whether it's true or not. This is the thing. Look, I'm not interested in criticizing my criticizing Charlie Kirk over disagreements that I have with him over policies or personnel like Trump. He's not a danger to anybody now and there's no point in doing it. But it is dangerous if people pay attention to these influencers like Alex Jones. He is still a clear and present danger to people. If you believe him if you trust

what he has to say. And so I don't like calling people out by name, but that is the reality if you've got somebody out there. These people see themselves as influencers, and it is an influencer war, that's what it really is, not information war. And so these people are there to nudge you. And that's why the government protects them, does not charge them with the crime. The government's charging everybody with crimes. It's just look at Januine the did he get charge of anything? No, not at all.

That should be very suspicious. Talk about that instead of his conspiracies about the New York Times and the LA Times. It's the fact that he didn't get indicted. Is the dog that did not bark? That's the reality of all this stuff.

Speaker 4

Also, think it's.

Speaker 5

Interesting to me, you know, there's quite a lot of confusion and fog of war surrounding all this stuff, which in my mind actually lends some credibility to this not being a inside job set up thing, because typically when that happens, they have everything about the person, their entire life's history, from what they had for breakfast that morning on the manifesto. Yeah, and a clear thing of this is what we need to do about it. Here's the solution.

They don't, you know, arrest and let go three people.

Speaker 3

So I'm not.

Speaker 2

They're kind of panicking at this point. Now, that's one of the after effects of this is that these politicians are like, oh, we need more security, and we got chains of security measures.

Speaker 4

And I also understand why people would be so prone to not trusting anything that comes up. The government lies continually, and the fact that this is an assassination makes it suspect in general because in the past so many of them have been tied directly into the government. So I completely understand why everyone is looking around and finding different weird things.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. I'm not saying that I know that it is an organic, actual event that wasn't put up by one of these intelligence organizations. But we just need to look at all the evidence carefully right now, because right now it's all very confusing and changing as more information comes out.

Speaker 4

Yes, Pezzoonovante seventeen seventy six death toll in Israeli air strikes on Yemen rises to forty six, including eleven women and five children. It's important, yeah, to continue to pray for those people.

Speaker 2

That's a key thing, the fact that they are not concerned at all with the starvation of children with a direct attacks targeted, sustained now for years against a civilian population. There's no justification for that. Nothing justifies that. Your understanding of eschatology and end times could never justify that. And I say to you that if you think that it does, you have missed the entire message of Christ, and you are twisting this eschatology to justify what He is adamantly against.

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This is from the Free Thought Project. They said, the nine to eleven Truth movement still pushes on confronting the lies of the official narrative, despite waning public interest, and it's just as important today as it was twenty four years go. It is seminal. I mean, you talk about crossing the rubicon. So much stuff changed in reaction to nine to eleven. Even if the story had been true, you could not justify the types of things that they

have done in America because they're unconstitutional. All I know about all this stuff is that the official story could not be true any more than the story about the magic bullet and the jfk assassination could be true. So it is based on absurdity, and that is the reality, you know, when we go back and look at as amazing as I said yesterday, Tucker Carlson is going to do a documentary about nine to eleven, the guy who was part of the cover up. As far as I'm concerned.

This is a Building seven, which he said he couldn't talk about or he'd get fired twenty years ago, But now he's going to do a documentary on it. We'll start with this.

Speaker 11

Tight cent to seven, just before it collapsed on September.

Speaker 2

The eleventh, one minor fire hit.

Speaker 11

By an aircraft. It had been damaged by falling debris and fire, but by five twenty pm most of the fires had been extinguished. Although the building was forty seven stories high, it doesn't fall sideways nor collapse unevenly. For this to have happened, all of the building's vertical supports must have given way at almost exactly the same time. Yet, the Federal Emergency Management Agency reported that the collapse was due primarily to fire. But what does it look like to you?

Speaker 2

As a matter of fact, since then, we have seen buildings, skyscrapers that were on fire for several days, never collapsing like that, even when there's nothing.

Speaker 11

Left standards and technology.

Speaker 4

You only need rule to see this collapse in a controlled demolition, especially in a building that was They never claimed anything struck Building seven. There's no footage of it. They entirely claim it caught on fire from some debris where that question is somewhere.

Speaker 11

Do you believe what you can see with your own eyes or do you believe what you had told?

Speaker 4

Because these buildings were built to the standard code in New York City, and if a small fire is enough to take down Building seven, that means New York should be just about collapsing continually daily. This would be a continual event that you would be seeing. You'd be seeing skyscraper after skyscraper.

Speaker 2

That's the bottom line is because do you believe what you see with your own eyes or do you believe their official story? And that is exactly the parallel that we wound up having with the so called pandemic, which I've always said is the other shoe to drop. The two of those things are inextricably tied together from the beginning. As a matter of fact, the Dark Winter simulation, which was what they executed, practiced for twenty years and executed on US twenty twenty, that was done. The first one

of those was done two months before nine eleven. Then you had the false flag anthrax attack. Then two months later they put out the model legislation to get around the tenth Amendment, and all that was required was for a president to release the money and the incentives to get people to do it at the state level. And that's what MAGA refused to understand about Trump. In two thousand and one, you were a trader and a terrorist sympathizer for daring to question the official orthodoxy of nine

to one one. In twenty ten, you were a wing nut conspiracy theorist. In twenty twenty five, the Overton window has moved, and while questioning the official story of nine to eleven can still get you some strange looks in some circles, only the most naive sufferers of statist Stockholm

syndrome still by the entirety of the official story. Three years ago, the Free Thought Project published a crash course in nine eleven Truth seven documentaries you need to see to serve as a comprehensive introduction or refresher course for readers to become familiar. See. That's the other thing too. It's important to see that. And as he pointed out, it didn't fall to the side or anything like that.

That's why when I've told the story, we didn't have television, and we didn't have internet that was strong enough that we could watch videos in two thousand and one, so I'm getting phone reports from relatives.

Speaker 4

I didn't even learn about it until the next day.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I didn't see for a very long time, ever see a video of it. I would say it was probably years. I was focused on the text side of things very rarely. We didn't have television any of this stuff, and so I didn't see that. When I was told that it fell down, I couldn't imagine that just fell in its footprint. I'm thinking, Okay, how much of Manhattan did that take out? Because I figured it had gone off and falling down across the way.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Even as a kid, I was only about nine years old at the time, I remember being told, you know these buildings. I didn't know what the World Trade Centers were. I never see a picture of them. But when you're told a building has fallen over, and you're told, oh, it got hit by a plane, you think, oh, part of it went yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And if you go back and you look at demolitions of buildings on YouTube, which I suggest you do, you'll see that occasionally somebody's taking out a silo or something and it will go wrong. Instead of collapsing vertically down, it will fall over and wipe out a lot of things in its footprint. But of course that did not

happen here, so they said yes. As yet, as decades tick on and the goalposts move, as the public has bombarded with a day loser propaganda, social engineering, and manufactured outrage, all types of fifth generational warfare, it seems as though this ever so pivot whole point in world history has somewhat fallen to the wayside. And I've done several interviews with architects and engineers both on nine to eleven as well as on the anthrax attack, and they have continued

to follow up on that as well. For once nine eleven truth was to be all and end all of truth liberty movement, drawing thousands to attend truth rallies in New York City and Washington, led by the families of the victims. Often most of the public has since tuned it out. They recycled it for another tragedy of the moment, And of course yesterday it was Charlie Kirk that dominated the headlines and instead of the as they point out,

the state sponsored murder of thousands twenty years ago. To achieve their objectives, and that is to completely do an in run around the Constitution so they could have endless wars and the justification to establish the foundations of the police surveillance state. That all was the outcome of that. And of course the other shoe to drop was a pandemic twenty years later.

Speaker 4

Sorry to interruptural fast, but it does look like they have who believe the shooter is in custody. It seems like he was turned in by a family member, if you know, this is the official story so far, a guy named Tyler Robinson. Apparently he told his dad and his family or father turned him in for the shooting.

Speaker 2

They told him they did it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's what is being reported right now as of thirty minutes ago.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, nobody gets away with any of these things. Of course, we never know if that's for real or not, but we'll see, we'll follow that. This year's anniversary nine to eleven was commemorated a number of individuals in Washington, d C. And they said that over the course of three days, turning the tide nine one one justice in twenty twenty four and they've got a promotional thing. Therefore, it goes through Today is a last day. Began on

September tenth, and today is a last day. And if you look at the people who are speaking there, I have some issues with some of the people there. Now. I've interviewed John Kyriaku and Richard Gage, and I think for the most part, I would go along with what they have to say. Dennis Cascinich and a lot of people are going to be concerned with how this was used, regardless of how it was, who did it, and how

they executed this. But you've also got people like Tucker Carlson going to be speaking there, and it's like, I'm sorry, but you know, as I played yesterday, I'll play it again here. That's Tucker when you're young.

Speaker 3

Do you have any in the building?

Speaker 1

Sure?

Speaker 12

Sure, Let's start with a collapse of building seven. Can you roll the video clip that I sent to you?

Speaker 1

Okay, I'm not sure, but specified.

Speaker 12

Maybe there's some kind of code you just don't show the collapse of building seven.

Speaker 2

I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3

They don't care if you think the earth is flat, but it's not a threat to anyone.

Speaker 9

But if you say, like what actually happened with Building seven, like that is weird?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

It doesn't right? If you were to say.

Speaker 9

Something like that on television's slip Out.

Speaker 2

Yeah, now Tucker Carlson is going to take over the truth movement. That's the guy that they have set up to take over the truth movement. And then I see Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaeffer, and I'll just say this, it was Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaeffer who jumped in with the Steve Pachinnick narrative about the Sting that lost all credibility in my opinion for that man. And so when you got people like that speaking, I just have to shake

my head and say, this is what has happened. They always co opt these movements with their own people in later years. It was exact blueprint that paved the way for the draconian abuses of the COVID nineteen eighty four regime. So it's free thought project. Well, no, they were always tied together from the very beginning with Dark Winter and Anthrax attack and that type of thing. Nine loven. Truth isn't just about seeking justice for victims and families that

were who lost members. It's about seeking to dismantle the system that profits from these wars of expansion. Domestic institutions of exploitation and oppression. It's about reclaiming one's personal liberty from the clutches of the state and fighting for a better future for all of us. So in light of that, I got to say, be careful of these nudge news influencers.

It really concerns me that Tucker Caralson is going to now take over the nine to eleven movement, and anything this guy does, everybody flocks to him and it becomes the new baseline of people's understanding. So he's going to completely rewrite all these investigations that have been done for the longest amount of time. That's what's going to be

happening in the future with nine to eleven. And I thought, this is from Wall Street Journal and it is not about nine to eleven at all, But the headline was the rise of conspiracy physics, and it made me think of Building seven and the fact that Tucker Caralson never wanted to talk about it, and he wouldn't just say

I'd get fired if I did something like that. He would actually oppose these people, and he'd say, all they want to do is talk to me about you know, what is the melting point of steel and what is the temperature of burning airplane fuel and things like that. He didn't want to look at that. He didn't want to look at the physics of a building that falls into its own footprints.

Speaker 4

Isn't that weird?

Speaker 2

Yeah, isn't that weird? And of course there's also the disappearing plane at the Pentagon that was there. The nine to eleven attacks exposed major government failure, but Americans learned the wrong lessons. And this is kind of this is from themeses dot org. And I was disappointed in this article. I got to say it was a tremendous success. It was not a failure, just like our schools are a

tremendous success, not a failure. They are opposed to anything that we would ever want to have, but that it's exactly they're doing exactly what they were designed to do. And I got to say that. You know, their position is, of course that the official story is true, but the government reaction is wrong. And that's where I was until I saw the pictures of what happened there. It's like, no, no, no, we don't want to have the Patriot Act. That is

a horrible response. Even if every word that they said were true, that was the wrong response. But that's it was not a failure. It was a failure to understand and still is a failure to understand on a part of many. Instead, while the Bush administration claimed the attacks occurred because of structural problems with the government's intelligent apparatus, FBI agents were warned about the suspicious activity by flight

students who were among the nine to eleven hijackers. Again, this is a part of the mythology but also part of the preparation as well, And they should have been concerned when somebody developed indestructible identification.

Speaker 4

Cards exactly what kind of paper is that?

Speaker 2

And of course, but they focus on the response that would have been wrong. Again, whoever wrote this article that meanses takes the government story at face value and believes it. And even if you did that, the global war on terror is the wrong response, just like when we look at if the pandemic were real, Trump's response was exactly the wrong response. And so again it is always even if even if their lives were true, what they decided

to do was the wrong thing. That feeling that we were really all one people, And I got to say that this is from the epic times, remembering nine to eleven. You know, when we were all on the same page

and we were all pulling together. That is why they take us to war, because when you have war, it unites the people behind the government against the outside nebulous enemy, when in reality, in most cases, it is the government that is causing the war, the government that is taking you to war simply because, as Jerald Celenti has said so many times times, when all else fails and you're about to come after the government, they take you to war so that you're rally behind them. This is what

we're seeing in Yahoo doing. It's a big part of what he did in Israel. Scientists sound the alarm and exposed the deadly COVID vaccine side effects that have been scrubbed from federal data. And again, is this another government mistake or is this a deliberate conspiracy. I am not a coincidence theorist. I don't believe these things are coincidences. A world renowned scientist has just mown the lid off a safe and effective narrative for the COVID vaccines the

Trump Shots. After uncovering shocking data scrubbed from the federal government safety database. They hid thousands of safety signals from the public. But I got to say, how did we know? We knew at this time because we knew that this stuff A had not been tested. They bragged about the fact they're going to rush it to market. We knew that it was a genetic code injection that had never been tested. And then we saw very early on. I remember when it's like, look at this, We've got enough

reports in the Various database. It's the same as they would get for an entire year, and it's only been a couple of days or weeks or something like that. And then before you know it, it kept escalating, and then it was equivalent to several years of the database. And then it was more than all of the adverse effects have been recorded in the Various database since they had begun it. How could you not know that this

was harmful? So yes, at the same time, they were hiding these safety signals and instead of more deserving the FDA system missed an estimated ninety six percent of pfizers and ninety one percent of moderna's safety signals. That amounts to as many as six thousand, seven hundred and sixty five safety signals effectively lost so why is it still there? Why is it that the Trump administration that RFK Junior and all these MAGA Maha health officials have not shut

this thing down. As we said before, if you have a baby's crib that causes a couple of injuries or death, they shut that thing down. Sixty seven one hundred safety signals and that's still out there. Wisman argues, this wasn't a minor oversight.

Speaker 4

Whoops.

Speaker 2

That is the biggest understatement I've ever seen. He said, regulators used high thresholds that filtered out early alerts and ignored the masking effects where signals from one vaccine can hide signals from another. Look, they've been doing this with autism, they do it with everything, and it is a deliberate program, and we need to understand that or will never make any sense of what the government is doing. So again, it was not don't allow them to say that it

was a good faith effort. It was never a good faith effort, and it was not. They didn't do their best to save us from a lab leak, deadly virus.

Don't buy into that. These are these same influencers who are trying to tell you that the that the pandemic was real, that it was dangerous, that the PCR procedures were real, and all the rest of this stuff, everything about it was fake, phony and these new narratives that they're pushing so hard, and I say new there were some people pushing that from the very beginning, interestingly, but

they has now become the establishment push that. Yeah, you know, Fauci rigged this stuff, and he was the one who was responsible. He in the Chinese and so this is about projecting this onto them so that you don't come after the real criminals. Comments.

Speaker 4

Yes, radust Bro, thank you very much for that, radus Bro, thank you. Soy's willing to bet it's an angry leftist kid who hates his parents and the FBI is just being distracted while the real killer will never be found. What the reporting is that the father saw the pictures that were released of the suspect, confronted the son, and the son admitted it to him. That's what's being reported so far. But again with everything the way it is, who knows the official story is? Who knows?

Speaker 2

Well? First of all, you know, they're going to find the guy. They always find the guy. Whether they find the guy or not. That was one of the things. Errol Morris's first documentaries was The Thin Blue Line, and it was about a guy who was on death row. And he started out to do a documentary just on people who are on death row. And as he started interviewing this particular guy, he got interested in this case

the guy. Of course, everybody insists that they are innocent, but this guy he found to be very convincing and he started interviewing people, and Errol Morris when he would interview people the documentary, he used to be an investigator to detect to himself, and he had something he called an terotron, which was an interesting technique. What he would do.

Instead of talking to people face to face, he would separate himself from them a little bit by using a teleprompter and so the people would be looking at him and talking to him in the teleprompter and by having that distance that was there. Of course, he was also a very good interrogator as well, but he believed that that helped to get them to open up and to disarm them, because it was almost like they were talking

to something that wasn't there, wasn't real. I guess maybe there was an aspect of that it's involved in the AI psychosis stuff that's out there, but it kind of got proven when he interviewed Robert McNamara for his film The Fog of War, and over a couple of days, basically McNamara admitted it was Vietnam's started over a false flag, and that he was a war criminal and many other things. That was truly amazing what he got him to admit to. And so as part of this, Errol Morris got the

real killer to admit that he had done it. And the reason I say they will always find the man is because it involved a police officer who was shot and killed. They do not want you to see that the killer of a police officer goes free and isn't caught. So they're going to catch somebody, whether it's the right person or not. And that is clear the case with Charlie Kirk. They will catch somebody, whether it's the right person or not.

Speaker 4

You're going to make sure somebody pays for the crime.

Speaker 5

Yeah, you look at what happened with that old guy. When I first saw that, I thought it was just a matter of you know, them grabbing some random person. But I later heard that this guy was as soon as the shooting happens, He's yelling out like I have the right to remain silent. Somebody shoot me, and you know, drawing all the attention to himself.

Speaker 2

Yes, that was I think the most suspicious thing about all this. It's like he was he was you know, I'm the one who did Everybody rushed around, everybody on the spot because the police started carrying him off, thought that maybe he was the one who had done it.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I mean, at the very least they need to re arrest this guy and charge him as an accessory after the fact that he's not involved with it, because if you're trying to help this guy escape, that itself is a serious crime, even if you had no prior knowledge.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4

A Culty sim Also, headlines are made in newspapers before the shooting. I lost the link. Interesting. If you find the link, you send it on over KWD sixty eight. Charlie Kirk made some statements against Israel in recent months. Masad murdered him, and he puts the link there Rumble dot com Charlie Kirk Chilie warning if I'm assassinated, it will be Israel. Yeah, I actually saw him questioning Israel.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I saw some people saying that he was questioning him that. I didn't believe it at first, because every clip i'd ever seen Charlie Kirk, he's always been very pro Israel, but he had a few clips criticizing them and questioning him.

Speaker 2

Yeah. We even't played that clip a couple of weeks ago that somebody put up portraying him as the ultimate apologist for Israel in a satirical way. And again, I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that closely. I don't follow anybody that closely in terms of their comments on things. But yeah, that I mean, if they're going to when you look at the history of this organization that's there, you look at Masad, look at the IDEF, you look at what

they're doing in Gaza, they're capable of anything. Frankly, Yeah, and I don't know they did it. That doesn't mean they did it, but I do know they're capable of it.

Speaker 4

They're capable of it, and they have a long history of killing.

Speaker 2

People, as is the US government.

Speaker 4

There's a long list of suspects, you.

Speaker 2

Know, if it fit their agenda. I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump administration had him killed if it fit their agenda. You know what I'm saying. I mean, if they wanted to use him for some purpose. Is death for some purpose. That's what I think of the Trump administration. That's my low opinion of them. I think that they have no moral restraints. Certainly there's no legal restraints. They brag about that.

Speaker 5

Yeah, we wouldn't put it past them on a moral standpoint. It's just strange to me, Like what I was just saying, how with most false flag attacks, there's a clear narrative that they're ready to push right from the moment it happens. Yeah, they've got the guy, they've got his motive, and they've got the solution ready.

Speaker 2

To go, as it did with nine to eleven. Yeah, yeah, we know it's I saw Bin Lawden, good old tim Osman.

Speaker 4

Can think the recovered rifle does that match the photo of the rooftop shooter. I haven't seen any photos of it. I'd be very curious if you're able to find some photos, Lance, please pull him up. Guard Goldsmith. If in New York and LA Times really had been reporting that Charlie Kirk was shot prior to the event, those reports would have been everywhere, and Kirk supporters would have been appropriately excoriating him.

I agree, that's kind of my opinion on it. I think these were probably generated for clicks.

Speaker 2

Yeah, when you look at how you know, when the reports were Charlie Kirk shot, I mean that was like everybody knows who Charlie Kirk is. I mean there's even one of the reactions that I have here is someone in the UK talking about their young son and how he knew about Charlie Kirk. He was so well known that anybody, any major paper reporting something.

Speaker 4

That goes everywhere all at once. Yeah, you'll see these occasionally, good point guard. You'll see these occasionally fake headlines where it's you know, certain celebrity dies and they get traction for yeah, a few hours, maybe a full day before the celebrity comes out and says I'm alive.

Speaker 3

Guys.

Speaker 4

So even when it's obviously fake stuff, something like that explodes and it becomes fairly big news, and someone like Charlie Kirk, as you saw the second it happened, it was everywhere, so a report on it, even if it was fake, would have immediately come out and it would have been you know, Kirk would have made a statement, I'm not dead, I'm still going yeah, and his fans, as Guard points out, would have been screaming at the

New York and La Times Bille Houghton. When Trump's FBI moves Gilain Maxwell to a country club prison, that speaks volumes yeah, and that does We're all dead. There are about five thousand red flags in the shooting. Everyone needs to calm down. One thing I think it's important to remember is that it takes a crazy person to do something like this. Every assassination is going to have weird things around it, because to do this sort of thing, you've got to be a weird individual, to say the least.

So just always remember that well balanced, normal people who do well balanced normal things don't commit murder and assassination. So there's always going to be very strange happenings around it because it's done by very strange, very disturbing.

Speaker 2

There was always a problem I had within a sanity plea, right, it's like, okay, so you know you're admitting that you kill this person, but you are insane, maybe temporarily even, which is even more ridiculous, And it's like murder by definition is insanity so what is new about this and how is that an excuse?

Speaker 4

Yeah, yes, you are insane and we don't want you back out on the street again. I don't fault anyone for whatever they believe about the shooting. There have been so many lives by the government and the media about everything all the time that every theory to me is still somewhat on the table. Well maybe not every theory, but I haven't seen anyone that has been completely and utterly outrageous. Biel hoton which I already read that one.

We are all read that one. Jerry Alatalo are in a stage of j Casey's book is self published.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Amazon makes it very very easy to self publish books now, so you don't have to go through a publishing company, which means that there is about a million different AI generated slop books that show up a day on Amazon. They're continually just churning out the lowest effort, you know, chat GBT give me this, and they just line by line, you know, passage by passage. I have chat GBT basically spit out a book and then slap it directly onto Amazon.

There's again thousands upon thousands on thousands of them, and there's more every day. It's really really easy apparently to get a book on Amazon.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and I clicked through the link that he sent, and interestingly, this shows that it was published on September tenth. And like you said, with AI, if you don't care about the quality, you can spit one of these things out in less than a day.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I've seen YouTube videos of people looking at actually published books that some people have purchased, and it's like, this is clearly just the pure output from an AI. They didn't edit it at all. It's got chapters that are basically the exact same thing over and over again.

Speaker 2

So it showed that it was published the day of the shooting, out of the day.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that link shows it published day of which again, this could be a probably was going to be a very short book based on the fact. And with AI you could get it to spit out something like that incredibly quickly, just summarize all the news events for you and slam it into a book. Can thank prediction the suspect doesn't live long enough to testify under oath, that is something, you know.

Speaker 2

That's all we saw with I. Remember I was young, when I was like eight years old, I think when Kennedy was shot, and it was right Thanksgiving, so our extended families together, So we had a lot of people that were there when Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby to keep him quiet, and that was such a wake up call to everyone and that generation and everyone in my family. I mean, they were all talking about that. That's when when I became a conspiracy theorist.

But the you know now they have typically if they've got like some kind of an mk ultra shoot or something like that, they'll make sure that they killed themselves so that it doesn't.

Speaker 4

They'll bring someone like Jolly West in to make sure you end up offing yourself, yeah, Jack.

Speaker 2

Or at the side of the crime or something you know that is less suspicious to the public than the Jack Ruby versus Lee Harvey Olswald. That type of thing. That is a real tip off to everybody when they do that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Brian de McCartney. And they plant weird things to throw you off the trail too. Yeah, there's always strange things, don't frag me, bro. The entire power structure has a reason to murder anyone with real influence that can undermine their grand narrative. And ultimate goals, not just Israel. That's right, it's true. It's true, Star Barkley. You can very clearly see he has a gun in a cover. He put the gun down and then jumped with it. You can

see it very clearly. You can see he injured himself. He's limping. I need to see a more upclose version. Note I haven't been able to actually watch it on a large monitor. It's a bit far away. But I'll have to look at that. If you say you can see the gun there, I'm not going to dispute it. I need to take a closer look. Frodo lives outlaw, order, outlaw, out door political events.

Speaker 1

That's right.

Speaker 4

No more being out in the sun. You must huddle in your basements. Stealth patriot. Charlie was doing it at schools, too much of a threat to the system.

Speaker 2

That's I had a clip that I wanted to show him engaging the student audience, and I couldn't go back and find it. And it was, you know, he would take questions from the audience. There was one guy said, what credentials do you have to even talk about economics? And he asked the guy, he says, so you said, yeah, I'm an economics student. So he say, you know, if Milton Friedman is he No, I don't know. Do you know where little Big Who, Little Gig von Misus is

or f A Hyak? And he starts going down this whole list, most of them free market or Austrian economists. He had never heard of them. Finally he got to but he mentioned some other economists. He only got to John Maynard Kaynes. And of course this guy had heard about him because they hammered Keynesy and economics in the schools anything. But the guy was just such an idiot, and Charlie was proud of the fact. He goes, yeah,

that's right, I don't have a college degree. As a matter of fact, he says, I dropped out of college, out of a junior college even, you know. So he emphasized the fact that he was self taught, but he he called himself an autodidact. He said, do you know what that means? And the guy didn't know what it means. He goes, she should look it up, you know. He said, he's self taught, but he just he was good in

terms of engaging the students. It was and when you look at this the other part of it is is like this guy was the best argument for not going to college that you could have that was there, you know, studying economics, but he doesn't know a thing about it. He doesn't even know the major economists of the twenty first of the twentieth century.

Speaker 4

Yeah, KWD sixty eight. For Kirk to be in his early thirties and realized the enemy and began talking about it was admirable. He may have been a Zionist but saw the issue. He was definitely over the target. Your people are allowed to learn they were wrong. People are allowed to make mistakes, and again, don't just and if.

Speaker 2

He was starting to wait up to some of this stuff, I like, I make him a real danger to the astablishment.

Speaker 4

With a massive following he had guard Goldsmith. There's a great example of pre reporting, as we recall the real BBC reporter claiming Building seven went down twenty minutes before it did, as it stands behind her on screen.

Speaker 2

That's right.

Speaker 4

And with that, you can see those clips still are around. You can still find them. They try to scrub them, but they can't. People continually re upload them and post them places and I can't find a single actual link for these articles that people say exist. If you've got them, I'd love to see them. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just saying I can't find them. Star Barkley, his father turned him in one hundred thousand dollars. Richer, rich dad,

poor dad. That's good, that's funny. Yeah, we're all dead. Venezuela and Brazil will be traded for Ukraine and Taiwan, according to Romberg, all right, I'll trade you my Venezuela for your Ukraine. KWD sixty eight. What was in buildings seven that it needed to be destroyed?

Speaker 2

I forget the connection to it.

Speaker 4

Didn't have records of some kind. It had a bunch of different records that they wanted gone, I believe.

Speaker 2

Yeah, something like that, just like you know, the the attack of the Pentagon happened to go right into the office that was ground zero, the office that was investigating the trillions of dollars that was lost. And you know that was really driven home to me. I've told the story before, but Karen and I were in Wimberley, Texas

one time. We went down there just on a drive and we're just kind of walking around in shops and it was not tourist season or anything, and it was very empty in this one shot, and this lady wanted to talk to me while Karen was looking around at the knickknacks, and she started telling me that she was retired military and blah blah blah, and her husband was as well, and that's why they were running the shop.

And she just starts monologuing and telling me her whole history. Said, you know, I was with a group that was investigated. I had been working in that same office that was hit with a plane on nine to eleven. And she said, we had found so many high ranking military and political officials, congressmen who decided they weren't going to run for reelection. They were contacted and they were given a way to just go away and not be prosecuted. And she said,

we were finding so much stuff. It's so sad that that happened. And she goes and I almost died. I got out of there just a couple of weeks before that happened, and I wanted to record it, but I wanted to hear what she had to say. And I knew if I started recording her, she was going to clam up. But they really drove it home with me that that's what was really going on. So I don't know what was there in Building seven, but I'm sure they had their reasons for doing it.

Speaker 4

I saw someone say that it contained a bunch of documents about how Rumsfeld had noticed there was money missing, and that's where the documents were stored, is building seven.

Speaker 2

Oh so it's connected to that as well.

Speaker 4

Yeah, this seems like KBD sixty eight. The CIA created the term conspiracy theorist was developed after jfkssh The jfk assassination has been a good armor for them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. They gotta have that term. Well, okay, so we're going to we talked about September eleventh, so let's talk about Charlie Kirk. When come back. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1

You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 2

Well, we're seeing amazing reactions. As you said yesterday, Travis, you know, the testable comments on social media, people cheering the fact that Charlie Kirk was killed. We've had some people now have been fired for that and not fired because they're trying to cover up some narrative or something, but fired because you know they're cheering this horrific, gruesome murder of a young man with a young family. And here in Tennessee at a Tennessee University assistant dean who

said that Charlie Kirk spoke his fate into existence. This is Laura sash Lightsey, assistant dean of students at Middle Tennessee State University, and posted that on Facebook and said she had zero sympathy. Now she has zero career, which is fine with me. I mean, we don't need these kind of deranged, hateful people running the universities. That's why the universities are the way that they are. She then

subsequently deleted her entire Facebook account, was too late. People had grabbed it, and Senator Marshall Blackburn, who represents Tennessee, called for her to be fired. So she needs to be fired tomorrow, and she was. School officials fired her from their position there. And then we have Governor Pritzker who blames Trump after Kirk assassinates said it's the President's

rhetoric that often femits violence. Now I find it interesting, and that's one of the reasons why I opened the show with this unprovoked attack on a Venezuelan boat that Trump and everybody in his administration bragged about. Do you find it interesting that Pritzker would not attack Trump on that, but would attack him on his rhetoric, saying that his rhetoric had led people to react to try hardly correct that way, as if speech justified that kind of violence.

That's the mindset of the left. They're not going to push back against an egregious war crime and violation of the Constitution. What they'll do is they'll use this to push back against free speech.

Speaker 4

I also, I'm sorry to break in, but I am so incredibly sick and tired of this rhetoric of them saying, well, you know, he said hateful things, and you know that maybe you know when you talk like this. They have spent ten years demonizing anyone that disagrees with them as hateful, racist Nazis, and they continually say, you know, you should

kill Nazis. That's what they say. They say, you're a Nazi and that Nazis should be killed, and therefore they are co signing the death of anyone they slap that label onto. Yeah, they have pushed this rhetoric, you're.

Speaker 2

A terrorist, So therefore we can kill you without even showing that you're committed a crime. So as the labels are very very important to them.

Speaker 5

Yes, you're probably going to get to this later. But the guy that worked at d C Comics that was celebrating this and got fired. I saw someone post something about I think it's a guy that's putting to be a girl. But this person's Twitter feed is their handle is punching Nazis all day. That's that's the only thing these they're so heavily propagandized that anyone they don't agree with is a Nazi, and punching and violence against Nazis is a good thing.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah, What Lance was talking about is the guy that was working for DC Comics and he had just done completed a series called the Red Hood series. The first one had been sold, and he came out, you know, bragging about them. And he's a trainee, came out bragging about this, and so DC just canned the whole series and said book dealers out there, if you've got pre orders for volume number two and three, those are canceled

right now. But you know what we're seeing here, as you point out, it's this idea that if they don't like what you say, they label you as a Nazi, and if the right doesn't like what you say, they label you as a terrorist. Evidently, so it's the censorship is the issue. The censorship is hate, which leads to violence on people. They want to say, however, that speech is hate and speech is violence, I say, is the opposite.

I say that the instinct to censor people it comes from a position of hate, which can then lead to violence, and it can be state violence against people as well. I think they got it exactly backwards. But I think it's interesting that Pritzker would talk about this because again, it's all about politics. It's not about principles of the

rule of law anywhere. And as they point out in Breitbart, meanwhile, there have been eleven hundred and fifty two people shot in Chicago so far this year, two hundred and eight of them died. That's on top of the twy four hundred and forty four shot and the six hundred and ten murdered just last year, along with similar records each

year of the last ten years. Charlie Kirk himself even warned of the assassination culture that has sprung up on the left, leading to many regular, average everyday Democrats to say that political violence, in murdering your political opponent, is a legitimate tactic. And I think it is inevitable that that kind of mindset is going to come out of a mindset that wants to censor any speech that it hates. That's what leads to the violence that is there, he said.

In April, he said assassination culture is spreading on the left. Forty eight percent of liberals say that it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon. Fifty five percent said the same thing about Donald Trump. And of course, all it takes is one to kill you, which is what happened with Charlie Kirk. Barack Obama condemns the despicable violence after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. That's the headline from Breitbart. But the interesting thing is he says, this kind of

despicable violence has no place in our democracy. But he pretends that he doesn't really know why this happened. He said, we don't yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk. Oh, we don't. This is kind of like what you see when you got somebody with a knife stabbing a dozen people, yelling alhu aakbar, and we say we don't know what motivated him cut all that is kind of ridiculous. Lefties run to social media mocking Charlie Kirk for opposing gun control and putting up

things like if only we had gun control. He fought hard for guns and prayers and so forth. We wanted gun control to save him, to save his life too. Some of them said, no, you.

Speaker 4

Wanted gun control so you could more easily take people like Charlie Kirk, round them up and put them wherever you wanted.

Speaker 3

That's right.

Speaker 4

These people want to act sanctimonious, but the fact that they are acting this way shows what their true feelings are. They wanted Charlie Kirk dead, and if the Second Amendment wasn't there, they would be acting upon those urges. They would be screaming at their representatives to round up people

like Kirk, round up people like us and you and chat. Yeah, the Second Amendment is the only thing stopping these people from acting out on their completely hateful, violent urges, and their reactions prove it.

Speaker 2

Another interesting thing here is you know which people haven't talked about. People have talked about, well, you know the Israeli connection, maybe they would do something. Well, the Ukrainians, many of them, were celebrating online, calling it epic. As a matter of fact, one user wrote that and said the moment that he was hit by a bullet. Another one said cool, super shot. First he rooted for Russia

and now he is dead. Well, the reality is is that he'd been very critical of Zelensky, and justifiably so. He called him an international welfare queen, and he's exactly right, an ungrateful, petulant child responsible for a million dead, citing Zelensky's refusal to consider peace deal with Russia and his

continuation of a conflict financed by Western money. And so these Ukrainians are saying, well, he left around and he found out and wishing him to rest in pieces, but he wants questioned whether or not the Ukrainians would try to kill him because they had a hit list of people who had opposed continuing funding of the Ukrainian War by the US government, and one person in particular who was not only pushing for the Ukrainian War but also was a transgender, the ex head of the Ukrainian Territorial

Defense's English language propaganda vowed to hunt down those he called Krimlin propagandists. They say she, but it was a guy pretending that he was a woman, adding that a strike against an individual favored by Putin was imminent. And so Kirk asked in response to that, he said, so are they going to try to murder Steve Bannon or Tucker Carlson or me? And that was not that long ago. He said, None of us are Putin puppets or Russian propagandists.

But the New York Times calls us that, Twitter calls us that, and that person, who by the way, was a transgender is who is funded by the US Treasury, says we are going to come murder you. And so they were getting American government to create a money to create a hit list of their political enemies. And then on Blue Sky, there are a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4

There which that's their walled garden where the liberals are in their own little enclave and they can feel safe to say whatever they want.

Speaker 2

Yeah, an echo chamber of hate. And again ironically Blue Sky threatened to sense of the people who want to censor everybody else over this thirty eight million users. According to the platforms cardinal directions, any of the thirty eight million users who violated the policy to celebrate Kirk's assassination or to promote violence against political activists could have their accounts suspended or removed from Blue Sky. And they were not the only social media place to do that. Had

met a YouTube. Reddit discored all issued statements like that. X did not, and so you were able to see quite a bit of that on X. Yeah, and the view actually was civil in this. That was of the biggest surprises to make was that the people in the view, who are usually so toxic and deranged and uninformed, were actually compassionate about this.

Speaker 4

This army wonders how much of that is just real. Someone has pulled the cork on this, that someone has made it so that, maybe, you know, political commentators are now fair game, maybe for civil Someone on the right isn't going to accept those terms of engagement. Yeah, and I think, thankfully the right isn't going to because the right is generally filled with a more Christian and more moral people, and I hope they don't.

Speaker 2

Well, we did have some crazy on the right who went up to the House of the Minnesota speaker of the House and shot her and her husband. Yes On MSNBC, Matthew Dowd, who had perhaps the most idiotic and vile comments of all, Right, off the bat has now been fired even by MSNBC the bat. He said, he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this He was constantly sort of pushing this sort of

hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. Hateful thoughts lead the hateful words, which lead to hateful actions. Said you can't stop this with all sorts of awful thoughts that you have, and so forth, and so For that, he was fired. But he was also the one who came out idiotically said, well, we don't know at this point what happened. Could have been some of his supporters firing off guns and celebration. We talked about that. It's like, since when have you ever seen anything?

Speaker 4

Maybe he saw Yosemite sam in the audience or something, you know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Well, he says that people misread his comments. He apologize for it, but he has now been justfully fired. MSNBC president Rebecca Cutler said, during your breaking news coverage or the shooting of Charlie Kirk, Matthew Dowd made comments that were inappropriate and sensitive unacceptable. We apologize for his statements, as has he. There is no place for violence in America,

she said, and so I still avista to him. But Cindral, Elizabeth Warren and Jen Saki, the former Biden spokesman, suggested that it was due to Charlie Kirk not turning down his rhetoric, which, as we point out, we thought was somewhat moderate.

Speaker 4

I've never I've never seen Charlie Kirk say anything that I thought was even in the slightest bit extreme.

Speaker 2

And on the House of the speak on the house floor, you had an interesting telling moment because you know, after the shooting at the school, Democrats were routinely mocking people who said, well, pray for them, and even the mother of one of the children who did not die, but her child was shot, and she mocked the whole idea

of prayer. Well, you had Mike Johnson held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk, and then when that moment was over, you had Lauren Bobert requested a moment of prayer out loud, not of silence, and when she said that, she said, silent prayer gets silent results. I think that, you know, if you are ashamed to mention the name of Christ, don't expect that your prayers are going to be heard. She said, Is there someone who could lead us in a moment of prayer out loud for Charlie

and his family? And then the Democrats had a fit and they started shouting on the floor, groaning about that, and you know, saying shut up. I mean, that's that's the state of the of the Democrat Party. They have made themselves the Antichrist party.

Speaker 4

Really makes you wonder who else recoils at the name of Jesus, you know, yeah, it really makes you think.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so it's like a vampire movie, isn't it. Charlie Kirk's five most controversial claims, from vaccine conspiracy to public executions. And again, as we said, we thought that, you know, he was pretty pretty mild in these things in terms of done.

Speaker 5

Do you want me to play the video from this article of we'll call for prayer?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you that. Yeah, we.

Speaker 7

The house will be an order, we will join for prayer right after this.

Speaker 4

Okay, the chair.

Speaker 7

Lays before the House of Communication, the House will be an order.

Speaker 2

The demonic party is.

Speaker 5

Beginning.

Speaker 4

I can go back to this.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's okay, we'll move on, thank you. It was Kirk was a huge support of the Second Amendment, and he believed that people being killed is a price that we pay for the Second Amendment. I would disagree with him on that. That is not the issue. And it's sad that he would couch it that way because guns have always been more ubiquitous, more omnipresent, uh in my life than now, and yet what has changed. We didn't have that kind of violence. So we are the ones

who have changed, not the guns. And so he was wrong in saying that it's worth it to have a the cost of unfortunately some gun desks every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, look at Britain with all the stabbings.

Speaker 3

Yeah, what rights.

Speaker 5

Are the you know what advantage a getting from not having gun rights with you know, stabbings everywhere. It's not a matter of oh, well there'll be more deaths with guns, but hey, that's worth it. It's simply a.

Speaker 2

Well they're putting this here saying that there was a trade off somehow, there is not a trade off. The problem is and many of us have said this over in Oregon. As a matter of fact, rf K Junior said that he said, you know, he's a when he was in high school, people are bringing guns to school because they're doing target shooting and things like that. So what has changed not the gun. The Second Amendment doesn't need to change. We need to look at what has

changed in our culture. And of course that is the schools that is purging God out of our schools as they want him purged out of the house of the house floor. And so that's what's changed, along with the fact that we have SSRI drugs that they prescribe for people and the grooming of children to tell them they're in the wrong body, getting them confused, depressed, suicidal, then giving them SSRI tr drugs. So we need to focus

on what the real problem is. He refused to accept transgender people they say or that a person could identify as a different gender than the one that they're born with. So he believed that people who were transgender had a mental illness and needed brain treatment. Well he was right about that.

Speaker 4

Once again. The standard line was in the you know psychological Diagnostic manual for decades and only very recently when it no longer served them and this became the hot button issue. Did they change it? They will. Language doesn't mean anything to liberals or democrats. Words don't have any meaning. It is simply a weapon to achieve whatever their goal is at the moment. And they will change the definition on the fly. And if you point it out that they've changed it, they'll call you an idiot.

Speaker 2

That's postmodernism. You know that there is no truth and words don't mean anything. Here's the issue, right, Yeah, we know that transgenderism is insanity. You've got institutions that are pushing insanity in pharmacyceuticals on kids. The institutions have to change or be abolished. It's just that simple. We need to declare our independence from the educational institution because and again, just like it says in that question of independence, the

schools need to be radically altered or abolished. I'm in favor of them being abolished. No one government should have no role in education. He won't say that now.

Speaker 4

No one can teach your children better than you, No one will love your children like you do. You are, You cannot do a worse job, and you can do an infinitely better job than these schools and what we've seen. I've seen so many posts of teachers celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Do you think that your conservative child is going to be treated well by these hateful, demonic people that are infesting the school system?

Speaker 2

Christian? Your Christian child? Do you want your Christian child absorbing those kinds of values being mentored by people.

Speaker 4

They're going to be targeted, not just by other children for potential bullying, but by the staff of the school themselves. They are going to suffer. You can no longer entrust your children to the school system, not that I think you ever should have, but today it is more obvious than ever that it is filled with people that hate you and hate people like you.

Speaker 2

So again this is coming from the Mirror in the UK. They say he was a conspiracy theorist. During the COVID nineteen pandemic. He regularly shared conspiracy theories on social media, which let him being banned for a time from Twitter for misinformation. He used to catchphrase China virus. He said, no, now more than ever, we need the wall with China virus spreading across the globe. The US stands a chance if we can control our borders. President Trump is making

it happen again. He's sharing Trump in the middle of the pandemic. This is why I said, I have some issues with him, and I think that, you know, to think that Trump was fixing the border was delusional and extreme, I think. And then polarizing quotes. He said, I'm sorry, if I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like boy, I hope he's qualified. But she said during a twenty twenty four podcasts where he was probably talking

about DEI. That's not anything that hasn't been said over and over again by Walter Williams when he used to guest hosts for Rush Limbaugh. You know, he would say, as a black man, he felt that the affirmative action, which is what DEI is the successor to. He said, he earned his degree, but people think that he got his degree simply because he was given a lower standard because he was black, And Walter Williams spoke out against that, essentially saying the same thing. So again they're trying to

portray him as a racist. They work that way because they went to that is their standard defense is to bring the accusation of racism to anybody that they disagree with. It's exactly what Israel is doing too. So in February last year, while discussing capital punishment, he said children should watch people being killed using the death penalty, That executions should be public, death penalty should be public, should be quick,

should be telewised. I think at a certain age it's an initiation, he said, before adding that the crime rate would go down if kids had witnessed an execution. Well, again, that's something that I would disagree with him on, but you know, you know the reason that they're putting that there. We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back in just a moment here. Actually, no, wait, we're going to take a break.

Speaker 4

Closson on the line.

Speaker 5

No, he hasn't joined yet.

Speaker 2

Okay, well then why don't we continue instead of taking a break? Is going to take a breakwak You have a.

Speaker 4

Good comment here, though, Ratis Bros. Says one of the positives about the shooting is that someone is really showing how useless the FBI is if it isn't planned by them. Lol, that's right, unless they're the ones who set everything up and put all the pieces in place. Apparently they can't find the guy.

Speaker 2

That's another good point, because Cash Betel wounded up with a gun his face two.

Speaker 4

Or three times.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4

I mean you could also see that with the unibomber. They had no idea who Ted Kazinski was. They had no clue, They weren't even close. And took his brother reading his writing and saying, oh, no, I recognized this. It was the phrase cool headed logicians that Ted Kazinski frequently used around his brother and used in the writing, and his brother recognized it.

Speaker 2

And yeah, a family member who turns the men. Yeah, just like with this that maybe.

Speaker 5

Yeah, someone already mentioned Richard Jewel. There was a great movie about that made I think was directed by Clint Eastward.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, everyone should check that out. Get an idea of how these investigations go.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they worked really hard. It was an organized campaign to keep people from watching it, claiming that Clint Eastwood was just respectful to women because of one of the characters there. And so again I think it was pretty effective. But it was an excellent movie and certainly something that's an important point of view. Well, it feels like some

sort of invisible line has been crossed. As Constantin Kissin has pointed out, who is a commentator on a podcast called trigger Anometry, said, I'm who, I'm wrong, But tonight it feels like some sort of invisible line has been crossed that we didn't know was there. Last time, I felt like this was nine to one one. It was clear, without knowing the how and the what, that the world was about to change forever, like the rules of the game had been permanently altered and there was simply no

going back to the innocent, peaceful past. I didn't feel like this when an attempt was made on President Trump's life, he said, Yeah, it's because it looked like it was fake. To me, I don't know how he could recover from a graze to his ear that he claimed that he had so quickly like that. But to murder a young father simply for doing debates and mobilizing young people to vote for a party that represents half of America, this

is something else, he said. And I agree, and that maybe I want strong arguments to say that it was engineered. I don't know if it was or if it was the you know, certainly this even if it was organic and as a result of this person's trainee mindset. You know, with all the stuff that's there that in and of itself, folks, is engineered, no question about it. Why don't we address the root cause of that.

Speaker 4

So, Yeah, basically, every mass shooting is MK ultra in the sense that they have used these techniques that they refined on the individual and rolled them out on mass through media and through the amount of drugs that they push on people continually. That was a hallmark of MK ultra. They would show you programming, they would hit you with all kinds of different techniques to induce fear or other things,

and they would pump you full of drugs. And that is what happens on a mass scale to the American people.

Speaker 2

Daily, especially the schools. Schools are a mass market of MK ultra. Yeah, applied in a massive way. Well, this person said, it seems like we're entering an era of heightened political violence, and that seems to be the reaction of politicians canceling as you point out outdoor rallies and a lot of other things like that. It is profoundly disturbing and it may have consequences that we cannot yet know.

I would just say wait until Trump goes to war with the drug cartels that the war on drugs has created, just like they created al Capone's gang. You're going to start to see assassinations like people have been seeing for a long time in Mexico, and imagine what's going to happen with that. And I think that is one of the things that's going to come out of the extra legal war on drugs as it goes hot instead of

a cold war. He took young people seriously, saw college campuses as the ideological incubators that they are for both good ideas and for toxic ones. While will the many MSNBC pundits who said nasty things face any potent political consequences. One has been fired, but the mass just keeps slipping every time this kind of thing happens. A few months ago, a free Palestiner named Elias Rodriguez murder too young Israeli embassy staffers on the eve of their engagement outside an

event for young Jewish professionals. Professionals. There was the murder of the healthcare executive Brian Thompson, for which Luigi Mangione will be prosecuted by New York, Pennsylvania and the federal government. Prominent Democrats like AOC seem to think that stricter gun control, something Kurt would have vociferously opposed, will stop at all. No, the rot is deeper, and it's not just left on right.

There's also that right wing crazy who shot and killed several Minnesota so to state legislators in June, for example. But there's also a disturbing strain that is emerging specifically on the left that makes light of political violence and seems to revel and bad things happening to the ideological enemies, like we're all play acting, like the deadly violence isn't real and concrete. And that's the thing. These kids who

do this stuff, they really are detached from reality. Yeah, yeah, it is just like a shooter game to them.

Speaker 4

They have spent their basically freshly into college. They've never once been outside their parents' home. They've never once suffered a consequence for their actions. Yeah, they have never experienced the real world, and as such, you know, they're not a part of the real world. None of this is actually real to them. They don't actually interface with it in any sort of real way.

Speaker 2

Yes, I agree, I'll just have one more comment before we go to our guests. Who's now ready. This is from Eric Ericson who said, I'm seeing people on the right, many of them professing Christians, say you just don't hate them enough. It seems to me that's what got us at this point, he said, And he said, many of them do hate us. Some of my right wing friends on here are not Christians, and half for a long time insisted that we need to embrace the methods of

the left. Some of my Christian friends have agreed. But Christianity conquered the world by being the opposite of worldly hate. I don't think now is a good time to give that up. And again, this is not simply an issue that we want. Like from the perspective of Richard Dawkins, it's much more involved and important than just Christianity or

Christen dumb or a Christian culture. He said, beat the left by seeking the welfare of the community in which you live, get married, have children, pray for your community. There you will find your welfare. And this is basically, in a sense a paraphrase of what God told the people who are in captivity in Babylon. He said, I know the plans I have for you, right plans to prosper, not to harm. And he gave them exactly that advice. He said, plant your crops, build your homes, build your families.

And that's the way that we need to pursue this, not in this tit for tat, eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. Let's hate them more than they hate us type of approach. And at the same time, part of that is to prepare to make sure that we can protect our family and ourself from crazy things and crazy people. That's what we're going to be talking about when we come back with Acklass.

Speaker 4

Do you have a couple comments that one I'd like to read real fast? At least don't bro says Jack Ruby was interviewed by doctor Jolly West. Yes, he was. That's what I was referencing earlier, and I think that's what inspired the scene. You'll forget me for referencing Hollywood, But in Batman begins with a scarecrow shows up to interview the mob boss and drives him crazy with his you know, drugs. I'm pretty sure that's what they were referencing there.

Speaker 2

Maybe. Yeah, I don't remember the movie as well as I remember the JFK shooting.

Speaker 4

I remember the movie better. I wasn't there for the JFK.

Speaker 2

Yes, I stay. Miller one two three said, this feels the same as a JFK shooting and a lot of respects of that was another seminal moment, crossing yet another rubicon that was there. And so we're gonna take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back with Jack Lawson and his Civil Defense Manual to stay with us.

Speaker 1

Mm hm, you're listening to the David Night Show and defending the American dream. You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 4

Welcome back, folks. Joining us now is jacklaws And you can go to jacklosson books dot com to find these Civil Defense Manual volumes, so you can see them both here.

They are both thick volumes, have got a lot of dense information and he's got passages from other experts as well, so you can find a lot of information about how to defend yourself in uncertain times, protect your community, find food, find water, make sure that you are not completely vulnerable in a scenario seems more and more likely every single day.

Speaker 2

So of course he also had he's got a substack where tell people where they can find these first alls.

Speaker 4

Jack Lawson, Jacklowson books dot com and.

Speaker 2

Jack, what is the what is your substack address? David?

Speaker 3

It's uh Jack losson books plural on the books dot substack dot com website.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and there's a link on the website to it as well.

Speaker 3

Instead of dot com, it's dot substack dot com. It's it's got We've got huge amounts. I've got one hundred some different articles on there. A lot of this is uh uh some of this out of my book. A lot of it is is very good free information. And uh, like I told one guy, I don't just do this because I want to try to make a buck here or there. I do this because of what we've been seeing. We were seeing a deterioration, the uh, deterioration of the

fabric of American society. Yes, insanity going on, and people are not going to have a problem until there's a problem. Then they've got a problem. And if you're not prepared, you know, it's it's like Colonel Douglas McGregor says, it's going to be on top of people before they can do anything about it. So, yes, you need you need to get out there and get some get some basics done, protect you yourself, your wife, your partner, your family, whatever, friends. Anyway, yes, I agree.

Speaker 2

And two weeks ago you were saying there was going to be more shootings. Of course, and of course we had. The day that Charlie Kirk was shot, there was also another school shooting. Most people didn't hear about it because it was swamped out with all the news about Charlie Kirk. But it is a regular thing. What was your take on this on your substack article in general?

Speaker 3

Well, what I uh, what I believe is happening in a country is I always wondered why these mean South Africa con dictators went into the universities, arrested all the professors and closed the universities down. I see why they did it. Ever since, and if you look at this, they didn't do it prior to nineteen twenty. Ever since communism has come about, and especially in the thirties, the agitation and the education through universities and higher in institutions

of higher learning have programmed people. I think all of these people are getting so wound up in all of the injustices that they imagine through their educational system, mostly that it's just corrupting their brain cells and causing them to want to become violent people.

Speaker 2

Well, they would do the radicalization just to the kids that were in college. But now they have taken it, you know, they've.

Speaker 3

It's in the school system.

Speaker 2

It's in the schools. They've taken it earlier and earlier and earlier into the school system. And that's what's really concerning about it. And they've taken it to a level. But you know, not even Marks and Lennon imagined with the training stuff, you know, in terms of getting these kids unstable.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I don't. I'm no, I don't have a crystal ball. I'm no clairvoyant. But if you connect the dots, you read enough and you think about things and connect the dots, it's right out there. Yeah, there are more of these shooters out there right now. They just haven't gotten around to it. Yeah, this is going to happen repeatedly. It amazes me the left is so anti gun, but it seems like all of the shootings, virtually all of them are coming from them.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

As much as they'd like to blame it on a white Christian conservative, I haven't been able to find one yet.

Speaker 2

So Yeah, Yeah, Well, there was one incident that happened, but up in Minneapolis, I think it was but uh, that where they attacked the legislators that were in state legislators. But for the most part, you.

Speaker 3

Know, it has been that guy was I don't believe that guy was a conservative. I believe he was hooked into some defense agencies as far as security. I from what I've read about him, I can't absolutely say that that he was a conservative. Walls the governor appointed him to a position through four years earlier, so you don't usually get appointed. I got appointed to a police board in Las Vegas, and.

Speaker 2

Uh, I think you're right about that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, No, it's there's there's politics come into play. People are.

Speaker 2

Because yeah, people are saying that because it was leftists that got shot up that were there. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case of well with this guy, because it is about mental derangement, and that is the real purpose of what they're doing in these schools is to get people disoriented. They want you disoriented, even about what body you're in. And I think that's the key thing that we need to understand. As much as they do. They understand that they got to mold

the children from kindergarten on the earlier the better. We need to understand that as well, and we need to take that back. We need to take our children back from the state we were talking about.

Speaker 3

Is that going to get done? Is that going to get done under a conservative administration in four years?

Speaker 2

I think I think it'll get done when we do it ourselves. That's the key, you know, just like you're talking about with your own self defense, we need children defense manually. It is called homeschooling and take your kids out of these institutions. Fortunately, we have that ability in this country. Most countries don't, and I think that's one of the things, like the Second Amendment, that's unique about America, and we need to exercise those rights or we lose them.

And I think that they the family needs to get their kids out of the school system. And if we did that enough, we might be able to get a consensus that we don't want to pay these confiscatory school taxes anymore. And that could be the end of the system. This building that is burning down and taking our society

with it. And so that's that's what I would hope you had a very moving statement in your substack about the death of a child that that you came across when you were there fighting in Africa.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's uh. I've always felt sorry watches Goza thing. I not just that, it's everywhere. Yeah, when there's massive civil unrest or war, the kids always take the brunt of it, their innocence, and uh, I saw all ages of people. It was. It was mind bending. I was numb to I saw so much of it.

Speaker 2

But you talk about carrying a six month old baby in your arms to the helicopter.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Yeah. They were moving bodies out of a out of an area, and most of these people had been killed by the communists. They were one tribe as much as they are both both tribes are supported by different elements of communism. Back then, you get two of them together and they'd fight to the death. And they got into a village and they killed two hundred and six people before we could stop them. We couldn't stop and

they went into a frenzy. And I just never forget this, this little baby that I don't know, six months old. I just know one thing. It was something that has never left me. But people don't see that kind of thing here I saw it firsthand. Does it make you prone to thinking about violence more? Of course it does. I see these people doing what they're doing in this country. They have no idea of the Pandora's box, the can of worms they're opening. Once it's open, you can't get

a clothed. It's very difficult. It takes a great amount of effort to restore civilization. And I look at us. I'm a student of the Spanish Civil War. There are things that are the opposite here, but I look at us as being about in nineteen thirty five. We're not far from open conflict. Is it going to be the army against leftist or leftists and the army against conservatives? I don't think so. I think what you're going to see is increasing violence between groups of people. Goes I

don't know. I hope it doesn't go to what I lived in there, and that was the car bomb. You never knew walking down the street, whether somebody's going to set a bomb off in a car and innocence kt killed.

Speaker 2

That's right, Yeah, it's h And when you look at the twentieth century, the massive tens of millions of people killed in various conflicts, always a communist, you know stalin Mao, the situation in Zimbabwe. Of course you also have in Cambodia and things like that. It's always this leftist mindset that is godless, that is tatalitarian. That's where this all

flows from. And I interviewed she Van Fleet a while ago, and she wrote a book called Mao's America, and she said all of this anti racism and stuff, and the tactics that they're using against kids, she said that was essentially drawn directly from Mao's struggle sessions where you had to denounce your parents and denounce this and anounced that.

And she said people don't realize that that was the foundation of what was being done by mal and they think that this is something different, something that's new, but it is tied back to that and it will lead to the same type of.

Speaker 3

Thing, same same thing. Yeah. Side note for the worshippers of Moussee Tongue and chagu Obara, Yeah, both of those guys took pride in their body Odor. Don't ask me where they got to one of the guys in my Special Forces chapter trained to Bolivians and hunting him down, which they did. Che Guvara and Apparently he was so filthy when he was after the revolution. He was working in the cane fields and he had relations with a woman there and he smelled so bad she threw up,

you know, I mean, it was it was it. These people are are legends in their own mind. Yeah, they're fabricated legends. And the bottom line is, you know, they got a lot of blood in their hands, but they're boundy determined to try it again because we didn't get it right the last time. What is that I didn't kill enough people. I don't know what goes through the mind. You know. My neighbors in Las Vegas were escapees from Eastern Bloc countries, and I had a interesting two hours.

I went to a birthday party. I used to drink back and they're big drinkers, and I at a lull. I asked them what was communism like? What was like living in communism? They sat there, they were dumbfounded. I asked that question. They looked at each other, started chatting in their foreign language, laughing a little bit, and then

they unloaded on me. And one of the things that you have to understand is they said communism destroys hope and the spirit of man, it's naturally it's naturally antagonistic to human nature.

Speaker 2

Yes, and antagonistic to God. And uh, I'll have to remember that story about Chagua Vara. When I see some lufty wearing a Chego war shirt, I probably won't say anything to them about it, because they're probably deranged enough they attack me.

Speaker 4

But I've got a comment here from Lanta says that seems to be a common problem for all communists.

Speaker 2

That's right. Yeah, they are anti God. And I guess maybe that's maybe that's where the thing cleanliness is next to godlesness and so godless communists and I clean either.

Speaker 4

Goes hand in hand.

Speaker 3

I think they're anti anti soap far Anyway, it's it's a horrible thing. Let me let me tell your listeners a little bit about my touth. I was in the American Air Force. I was I was in an electronics I dealt with army and disarming the sorry W forty thermonuclear warhead. After that, I got out. I ended up in Africa in the Foreign Legion in an anti terrorist rapid response unit. We were taken in by helicopters. There also paras who trained, so I saw differences in the military that were drastic.

And then, by the way, I call Africa the continent of the apocalypse now and the land of blood in tears, because that's all I saw over there was blood in tears, a wonderful, wonderful people. The black people over there, Unfortunately, their tribal they're a little more prone to become communists and to take the hard walk on the road of democracy. It's difficult for them to understand because of the elder system they have.

Speaker 2

After I takes a village type of mindset that Hillary loves so much.

Speaker 3

Right, oh yeah, well, I'll tell you what. That doesn't quite work the way the way that that statement is.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 3

Then I was on a police board in a major city, one of the biggest police boards. So I've got a lot of understanding of what goes on our society. If you want to see the underbelious city, go do a ride along with the police department. You won't come out of there thinking the same way about your city again. Anyway, I have to look at life as with the experiences I've had, I know how this is not normal reality

we live in. Our normal reality is barbarism and war. Yes, and that's not me saying that that's C. S. Lewis, the famous Christian philosopher. I do believe we've moved away from God and Jesus and good compassion and forgiveness. And it's just showing more and more in the radical approach people are taking, not discussing anything they don't want to. You're a Nazi racist if you don't agree with them, yes, and you know you were just talking about this earlier

on your show, but it's very true. They want to silence you by calling you a Nazi, and I in turn call them lunatics because that's what they are.

Speaker 2

Yes. And of course, you know when they wanted to move us away from God and where they wanted to shut down the free exercise religion, where did they start the schools? You know, that's where they started purging at first, and then it metastasized that from that, because everything always starts with the schools. You know, we understand that the children are the future, but we don't act like it. They do act like it, and so that's really the key.

And you know the first time I talked to you, Jack, we talked about how fragile the supply lines are in America and that was even before the lockdowns of twenty twenty. Then we saw that demonstrate to us just how fragile supply lines are. When we had the imposition of the lockdown rules, you wound up with empty shelves. But then on the farms, they were destroying massive quantities of food because they couldn't get it to market. And so we have a.

Speaker 3

They couldn't get a process mostly because the factories, the workforces were shut.

Speaker 2

Out, that's right.

Speaker 3

So that was a large part, that's right.

Speaker 2

So you know, we have a very very fragile system, and you talked about that the just in time delivery, and it tends to cascade. So we are, as many people have said, we're like nine meals away from anarchy. That's why your book is so important. Being able to help yourself and also to help your neighbors, and to start to build connections with those neighbors and a community of people who can stand with each other. That I think those are the essence I see of the Soul

Defense Manual. Of course, you've had a lot of expertise in practice in that yourself personally, but you also have a lot of experts in various other parts of various other aspects that also have contributed to your book as well, David.

Speaker 3

Most most people have got my background. I want to go into teaching people how to combat shoot. I've done this. I was an instructor at a public range for seven years. I don't get into the tactics so much. I don't get in. My prime directive is not tactics. It's not how to shoot a gun. My prime directive. And people need to understand this. Without this, you're not going to survive. And that is the store food and the store water. Yes, those are the critical issues, just like you say supply chain,

and I go into this in depth. I have a calculator. It's free for people to use. Go into my substock account and you can find a food and water calculator that will tell anybody if they get what they've got stored for canned food or ram in, any of those things and calculated, I'll tell you how many days of food you've got. Water. Water has also become as fragile or more so than the food system.

Speaker 2

And you have a free chapter about water at your website as well. Jackwoss of books dot Com.

Speaker 3

How to you need a renewable water source? How to treat it anyway. All that stuff's free in there if people want.

Speaker 2

To go in and look at it, and I'm suggested they do, because you need to know that about the water. And if you see Jack's chapter on water, you'll just how wise and thorough these books are on other topics, but that is a seminal one. That's the one that you can't live without for a very short period of time. And so he put that out there for free. It really kind of tells you something about his heart.

Speaker 3

And especially last time I was on Travis and I were talking about the food and water thing. He brought up this very thing. Three days, four days maybe without any water, and three weeks without food, And that's that's when you start. That's when you better be saying your prayers because you aren't gonna last too much longer.

Speaker 4

And especially in a scenario where you know you don't maybe the powers down, you don't have air conditioning, where all these other things are happening, and you're having to exert yourself physically, the amount of water you need to consume goes up. We're not just talking about your typical average day where maybe you know you stay inside, you're in your air conditioned house, and you don't need that much water to stay active, stay hydrated. This is going to be where.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you're thinking, you're thinking three dimensionally like people have to think. What you say is so true. It's you might consume or need a fourth as much water as you do when the air conditioner. I've got a friend, former Navy seelofs, a great author, Matt Bracken, and he told me, he said, Jack, wait till the air conditioning goes out in cars in Florida. You're going to see a lot of road rage, you know. And it's true. People are so acclimatized to an environment that's comfortable. I

want to starts going the other way. But what you say, Travis, is very true. That will put a factor to this, to the problem that multiplies it exponentially.

Speaker 2

Yes, I grew up in Florida, so I know what it's like to travel on the car with that air conditioning. Summer I went to schools of that air conditioning, and of course the cars had mellow all through the interior as well. They got really hot. But now I've been spoiled. It's just we get soft, you know.

Speaker 3

And the guy guys from Florida is telling me about the convertible they drive around in drinking beer and having a hurricane party, drive it up the rod with the top down, and it's so funny to listen to them.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, yeah, he was the issue I've got.

Speaker 3

I've got the eight to Z in this book, just about anything that people have to look at. Uh, literally being in an off grid situation without power, without heat. There, it's the simple things in here. The Russians will teach you this. Dig down into the ground. The root cellar

is the thing of the past generally as people. But when you get down three four feet in the ground, and you can be twenty below zero as long as you cover the top, but you've got a fifty five degree temperature coming out of the earth that's pretty much consistent. If you keep that temperature, you keep that heat from going out. That's one where I've got all this stuff in the book. But the bottom line is this, I get into the major two issues, food and water. That's

what's going to cause problem. There's a saying that revolutions starts on hungry's stomach. Well that may be true, but chaos starts from thirsty people. Yeah, might say.

Speaker 2

That's really key. Yes, well, you know, we're we've we're looking at a very dangerous time in history. This is a cycle. I believe that there is a cycle of about eighty years where institutions are taken down as major economic changes, was laid out by Strausser. Now, yeah, fourth Turning exactly, and it does seem to be lining up that way, and we're getting very close to the end of the fourth Turning as they expected it and predicted it. They said about twenty twenty nine, So we're getting there.

And it seems like all of the people making their plans for the new Dystopian technocracy also agreed with that time frame, because they all look to twenty thirty is the year they want to have this stuff out there. So there's going to be an acceleration of change in these next few years, and certainly you see it. You mentioned Colonel Douglas McGregor, and I guess he was talking about the various wars that they're trying to drag us into.

We've had this, they're continuing to try to escalate things with Ukraine, and as you look at France and the collapses that are happening there, they're having fires all over the place in terms of protest, and he's on I think the fifth president that they've had there or prime minister. I forget which one. I guess Macron has one title and the other guy's got another one. But they just had the government fall yet again. And so I think that's one of the reasons why you've got France and

other places pushing so hard for war. As Gerald Centi always says, when everything fails, they tried to take you to war.

Speaker 3

One hundred percent, right, It's always that's been the end of economic chaos, start a war and kind of cover the books up. You know. I've got a friend, an American friend that lives in France, and I get the low down and what goes on the farms over there. Quite an interesting character. He's been just visited me over here, but interesting to hear their opinion of issues American and whatnot. But anyway, rick Is fills me in from an American standpoint of what's going on. I'll say this, you know,

you talk about the wars going on. It reminds me of the black and white movie The Bomber's Flying in nineteen eighty four. It reminds me that they're setting things up Eurasia. It's almost like or Will wrote a book and giving you the blooprint. And what they're going to do. It's quite amazing, I believe. Also don't want to sound like a Bible thumper. I want to push something first. I've got a little book that I think people can get it for nothing, and it's called uh, it's called

plus Nothing p l us Nothing. It's an introduction to Jesus Christ. And I go to head friend look at my car window and he sees, uh, he sees a Bible there and he says, Assome, what's going on? Ah? I said, that's for my Bible steady group. I said, I actually go to two of them. He said, what two Bible groups? Jack? What's happening? And I told him maybe you ought to start looking into you know, he's talking. He's very fatalistic sounding. But the bottom line is this

plus nothing book I carried around. Mayo's got his little red book. That's a little brown book I've called my little brook. You know. But I do think we're coming to a fourth turning end of times. There's just too many issues. Is that Jack Lawson getting ages? Is that Jack Lawson getting afraid of No, I'm not I want I would be missing my family and when I go on, but I'm kind of curious about what's down the road, and you know it's it's it's something religion as far

as Christianity goes. I've had my son who was Muslim and he describes that he's no longer, but he describes that religion. And I have a Jewish friend and my wife's Dewey not she baptized Christian, but describe what they think of their religion. And the one thing I believe this missing is the compassion and forgiveness they you know, outside of having those two and believing in those two things, I think you end up having a manual, not a guide book.

Speaker 2

And that's what people want, you know, people want a list of things to do that can earn their salvation. But when they fall short, I mean, even if you make a dumbed down list, because we all know that we all make our to do list and then we all fail. Even with a to do list on a regular basis, you always fail to fulfill up perfectly. And so what do they do when they fail? You know? For us, for Christians, we know that it is Christ plus Nothing, I think is probably where that book is going.

It's what Christ has done for us plus nothing that we do is really going to merit this. And so it is that forgiveness that is there, that ability to be able to know that you have that relationship and then to know that with that relationship you can fail and start again, fail and start again an infinite number of times. But there has to be that basis there as to what do you do with your failures? And that's Jesus Christ, isn't it?

Speaker 3

Yes? This plus nothing dot Com great resource. The first page, the words were so profound. I've read a lot of stuff. I've read books on Hindu I've got a book on Judaism. I've got the Torah and part of the Taal Mood I don't buy into too much. I've got a Quran I'm trying to read. It's an interpretation English's very difficult to read. But I've probably read half of it. And I looked through this stuff, and then I look through the Bible, which I'm no scholar by, and I read things.

But the first page is this plus nothing dot Com book. I have memorized it. The words were so profound and It means so much to me that actually memorize it, and that's hard for me to do.

Speaker 2

Well, what's the summary of what it says the first page? There, you got it memorized, yes, Second, well, summarize it then, since you've got to come up.

Speaker 3

And it's basically stating the beginning of the world. It says, in the beginning, before earth was made, the Word was there, Yes, yes, the Word was with God. The Word was God. Then it says he was there with God in the beginning. Everything was made through him and nothing was made without him.

Speaker 2

Beginning of light, yes, pardon the beginning of John Yes, yes.

Speaker 3

Yeah, beginning of time. Basically, in him there was life, and that life was a light for people of the world. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not defeated it. That to me is basically you can fit it any religion you want, But if you believe in God and you believe in our case and Jesus, that means a lot to me. I think people have moved away from this. I try to bring this up

to some of my kids. And when you mentioned Jesus, it's like you might as well have done something evil in your lifetime they find out about it's like it turns people off. And I don't think people should look at that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and why is that? What do you think? I mean? I had a friend who grew up in Japan. They said they don't swear using Buddha's name. They swear using Jesus's name. And they're not Christians. They don't know anything about Jesus. Isn't that a time?

Speaker 3

I think, David, I think people. I think people watch so much TV and on this entertainment industry. I think for the last fifty or sixty years as demon I religion, I've noticed I'll see something about some uh you know, for all, I know some priests it's a killer or goofy things that may have happened, but there's such a small minutia of what really happens. I see, you know, you see the who was the Tammy Ray uh, the movie about the evangelist that was.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, they can't remember his name, Tammy Fay or whatever. Baker Baker, that was his name, Jim Baker, Yeah, the prototypelist.

Speaker 3

You see his wife And and I think people look at all religious movements as that. I've always had a saying religion is the greatest thing to mankind untill they brought people into it. You know it is.

Speaker 2

Those TV angels really poisoned the well for a lot of people.

Speaker 3

Absolutely did.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but people, people need to do one thing. If they do anything and walk away from listening to this, start storing some food and water. If people don't think tough times are coming, believe me, they'll be just like Colonel McGregor says, they'll be on you before you know it. And I think that's a critical issue. I try to get this across to people. I've convinced some to start.

The funny thing is, once they start thinking about it, they start accelerating in their effort to store food and water.

Speaker 2

Yes, when you were saying that, what was he talking about. Was he talking about just a natural societal breakdown or was Colonel McGregor talking about that in the context.

Speaker 3

No, he's talking about. What he's talking about an exacerbation and increase in the amount of conflict between polarized forces in this country. And the other thing is is the threat of nuclear war. Yes, I've also people want to go on there, I've got I went to nuclear warfare training. I am no expert. I have no more than the

average bear knows about it. I'm not going to tell you how to arm or disarm a nuclear bomb, but at the bottom line is I never set one off, so I guess it's fairly good at what I did, and I did. I did this for I did this for fourteen months. I actually got it radiated. I believe I used to set right on the bomb case while I was doing this some picking style, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't have a cowboy hat. But anyway, it and it didn't you know, it wasn't on an aircraft. It

was in a silo. But the I have in there the basics of how you can survive. It's very if once you're in a blast area, nuclear warfare is very survivable. I've told people this and they laugh because I say the new nuclear weapons. I work in the old dirty bombs they were the first ones. They come out with thermonucletive in nineteen fifty nine. But the new bombs are

environmentally friendly. That's what they call they're green bombs. They're actually designed the material after the explosion are designed to decay at an accelerated rate.

Speaker 2

Well, and then you have the kinetic weapons like the hypersonic missiles that because of the kinetic energy there, they don't need to have as big an explosive warhead there, the damage that they can do, and how indefensible our Western systems are against that both Russian and China have the hypersonic weapons. It is I think just hatred and contempt of their people for the leaders in NATO be doing what they're doing.

Speaker 3

Unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable. How they've subjugated France. Germany is basically France England. I mean there's the Prime Minister of England standing up and people complaining about massive immigration, knifings, groomings, raping women, and he says, it doesn't matter what you think. Yeah, well where we'll see where they go. But I don't. I think it's far from down there. And a lot of English people they are bulldogs. That's used to be

their symbol, the bulldog. They are bulldogs and some of the toughest people I've ever run into. I mean, they just don't quit.

Speaker 2

But their leaders have absolute contempt for them. And I think, you know, when we look at the issue of World War three, I think that the leaders of France, Germany and the UK would like nothing better than to have a massive attack, to have massive casualties against their own people, because their own are their enemies.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I don't think. My belief is I don't think you'll see tactical nuclear weapons. That is another Pandora's box. Once it's opened. I've got a saying there is no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon. Low yield weapons like that. You can use a thermobaric bomb. I'm one of the few people alive that witnessed the explosion of a thermal of a thermobaric bomb, which is a fuel air bomb. It's a close cousin to a nuclear bomb

from the effects, and I saw that firsthand. That's probably something they'll use rather than But it puts a mushroom cloud out and I'll tell you what, I was eight hundred maybe six hundred yards from it, and I'll never ever forget it. So you know we're in We've got a lot of dangerous things going on. But the bottom line, if you want to know how to survive nuclear fall out, whatever there will be, I've got a whole chapter on

it in the book. It's it's on my website. I put that out there because I want people to know. And it's part of an article written by Physicians for Self Defense and Shane O'Connor out of KI for you, and it'll tell you what to do to prepare. Bottom line is a couple days, three days in the center of your house, keeping the air circulation from happening, and you can walk out the door and it'll be low enough Renkins, which is the measurement of radiation that you

can survive it. This is not like Chernobyl. Chernobyl was a leak of radioactive material continuing to emit and put gamma rays out. This is an explosion and explosion things burn up, are decay, and there's a big difference between these. But bottom line is that's there. There's a lot of things.

Speaker 2

In the greater The greater threat, which is what you address in your book, is the complete destruction of infrastructure. Right there's no power, there's no food coming in, and you've got roving gangs of people. That's the bigger threat that is more likely to happen. And actually, you know, if we have I'm talking about this earlier Heritage Foundation was wargaming. So what if we have a conflict with

China over Taiwan. What might Chin to do? They point out, they might do a lot of things that could not even be directly traced to them. There'll be a tax on our infrastructure, on our water supply, our electricity, many other things like that. And just look at how chaotic that would be in this country. You want to ask, I've got another Jack question.

Speaker 4

I'm looking at the table of contents in the Civil Defense Manual, Volume one, and I see chapter six. You know, the reality of a catastrophic event. In chapter seven, the mental state needed to cope with a catastrophic event. And I think that's something that I'd like to hear more about, because again, we in America live a very very shell their soft life.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 4

We see these things from a distance online, and I think that can fool some of us into thinking, well, we've witnessed this, we could handle it. But the reality is always going to be so incredibly different, and it's going to be something unlike anything we've ever experienced. I'm just wondering if you could tell people a little bit of what you think they would need in terms of mentality and mental to deal with what would happen.

Speaker 3

Number one, I've got to get their nose out of their iPhone. I'm not a regression. I'm not what do they call it in communism, not a reactionary. But the bottom line is I got rid of my iPhone and got a flip phone. Why it was too interrupted, my focus on everything too much. Yes, you get your nose out of your phone and start looking people in the eye when you're talking to them. Uh. The mentality to

survive is a four sided box. It's it's got your survival mentality, it's got your training, it's got your equipment that you have. And the bottom line is, if any of those two sides fall in you, you don't have a survival mentality. You have got to want to survive for yourself, but as much as for yourself, more so for your your family and friends and people. Read all kinds I've I've been in situations. I probably shouldn't be walking around the planet anymore, by God's good grace. And that's all

I can figure. By all the things I went through, I managed to get out of situations, but it was also dogged determination. I don't know. Maybe maybe I got toilet trained too early. I don't know what caused this, but either that or I did too much butt hard work on a farm, but I just didn't let go until I got out of something. And there were times where I almost gave up. But the survival mentality, you

got to want to survive. If you read the very first story in the book, you'll get into a part that says about a society less than thirty five years ago that absolutely went totally to hell and people ended up living like animals. And you'll tell or in there. The guy that wrote the story let me print it. A guy be named a Selko Selco. He's one of the most well known people in the survival in Preparedness. He said that a lot of people just died initially

in the first couple of months. They lost the will to live because their society was they had disintegrated. No water, they didn't want to put up with us, they'd rather die. There will be a lot of people that'll that'll die that way. I've had theories put to me that people with guns are going to run go around and take food and they're going to be killed off. No, I don't think so. I think the majority of them gangs, and they'll be not just criminal gangs, there'll be gangs

of people that gather together for strength to survive. This is why I push a neighborhood protection plan, getting to know your neighbors and working together with your neighbors. But if you don't have the survival mentality, you don't buy the book. If you can't get that, you're not going to survive. That's the long choice. The other thing is as long as the survival mentality, again is the preparedness,

the food and water, big big thing. Fire Arms come with it because it's the most efficient way to defend yourself. So yeah, yeah, answer your question.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and we go back and look at it. I always think about the term outlaw, and of course that was somebody who had done something that was outside of the law of the community. So they were ejected and that was a big deal because now you are outside of the protection of that community. I think that that's what we're looking at, you know, going back to that, it's a community of self protection that is there. And you know, we don't really think government has not really

been about protecting us. I'm talking about that earlier in the show. It's about protecting their agenda and themselves, and so we don't really think about that. But if you create a community and you've got some great tips and pointers on how to do that, the dues and the don'ts of doing that, and considerations from somebody who's done it, and if you don't have a community there that you've put together, you're not going to be able to survive on your own. Very important.

Speaker 3

I'd like to end with this. This is doesn't come for me. Comes from a trauma management person, very knowledgeable. I've read quite a bit of the information that put out. This is why people become victims. Now, of any audience out there feels any one of these fits them, then they've got to start changing course. And number one, it won't happen. Number two, it's going to happen, but not to me. Number three it's going to happen to me,

but it won't be that bad. And the number four it happened to me, but there was nothing I could have done about it. Anyway, that's probably the last thought going through people's minds when the lights go out.

Speaker 2

So yeah, anyway, that's a great summary. It really is. Yeah. As a matter of fact, you know, along those same lines, when I talk about how they're gonna take away all private cars from everybody. I remember going to an automotive show in Austin and reporting on it, and I talked to people that there were the classic cars and you know, these real gear heads modifying their cars and how much they loved it and everything. And I talked to them and almost to a man, they all said, do you

know they're going to outwalk cars? But it's not going to happen in my lifetime. And it was even the young kids were saying that kind of thing. It's a kind of a denial that we tell ourselves, so we have to prepare for that. You know, these people were uniquely prepared to be able to keep their cars going. But still, you know when we look at this, that is the key thing.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I don't live this doom a gloom thing. I mean, somebody told me, you know, you're not enjoying your return and I said, no, I'm living like I normally live. I write books though about this, and I said, what am I supposed to do? Dye my hair black? My nineteen sixties muscle car a convertible, drive around and pummed, you know to the Beach Boys songs, and.

Speaker 2

You got the stereotype as a matter of fact, that's happening here in Gatlinburg and Pigeonforde this weekend.

Speaker 4

And I see what exact guy you're describing all over the place.

Speaker 2

Tens of thousands of the.

Speaker 3

Twenty five years old. Again, that's not me. I love my grandkids, kids, very lucky. God's given me some grace when it comes to them. I've got great kids and great jobs.

Speaker 2

Yes, thank you so much. It is such an excellent resource and I can't recommend it highly enough. Jacklowsonbooks dot com Civil Defense Manual.

Speaker 4

Yes, go to jacklosson books dot com look at the Civil Defense Manual and check out what he's put up there for free already. Thank you so much, Jack.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jack, have a good day, Thank you, and talk to you. Have a good weekend all of you. Hopefully we'll see you on Monday. Have a good weekend.

Speaker 3

Take care.

Speaker 2

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