FEMA: Incompetent & Malicious

I'm bringing on the author of the Octopus of Global Control, the Controlled Demolition of the American Empire, Hypocrisy, host of macro Aggressions, one of the best podcast out there, one of the biggest podcasts out there, most informative if you're a thinking person. Macro Aggressions pretty much anywhere podcasts were found. And so I texted Charlie yesterday, I said, I'm third hour David Night

Show. What do you say? He's like, absolutely, I'm there because he's my friend, Billy Ray Valentine, our mutual friend, hardest working man in alternative media. And so I was looking through your podcast and I listened

to this last one. It came out about a week ago, episode number three sixty two, the Federal Management Emergency, And I love the way you opened up as the American public was mortified to hear that former President George W. Bush thought that femahead Michael Brown, Remember Brownie, He's doing a heck of a job and handling Hurricane Katrina New Orleans. But the truth is his

job might not have been what we thought it was. And that was a great opening to what you were talking about with FEMA, and that kind of goes back to the you know, the nineties were full of this, like you had the X Files and real I mean, there was a lot of great research that went on. I mean, the FEMA really started under Carter, right, I wanted you to talk a little bit about kind of just a deviation from a little bit of the headlines, but this does tie into

like what we're seeing now in Hawaii and other places. And so anyway, we welcome to the show, Charlie, Welcome to David Night Show. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Well, thank you for having me. And before we get started, I am a wolf Pack member myself, and I'll have you know that two weeks ago I had to I had so much silver that you'd been sent over the last year. I guess right when it started I signed up that I was like, okay, I have

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box shows up with the with silver in it. It's kind of cool. So but back to FEMA, boy, I'll tell you if you if you, if you look at FEMA and you and there's something inside you that goes, are you guys supposed to help in emergencies or make it worse? You know, if that's the thought you have, go with it. You're on the right track. I have come to discover that Fema is boy. I'll tell you they can't. They really can't do a worse job than they're doing.

And it happened so frequently with such regularity, and they get caught off guard all the time. They're always caught off guard by hurricanes. It's more just completely baffled that there's a hurricane hitting Florida. They were they were the Hurricane Andrew. They describe themselves as being unprepared. They're unprepared for hurricane in Florida. I mean, it's not like I and I said in the episode, I could understand if a hurricane hit Seattle and you were unprepared. I

could totally understand that. But like there's a thing called hurricane season you don't even need I mean it's like half the year, so like half the year you can send those people home and then go on vacation, do whatever. But during hurricane season, I don't know, have a plan for Florida, have a plan for New Orleans. Don't act so surprised when when the hurricane

comes up. You know, Michael Chertoff, that scumbag that used to run DHS, he waited thirty six hours before he declared the hurricane an incident of National Significance. Again, hurricane in Seattle. I get it. Random earthquake that comes out of nowhere that isn't being caused by harp let's just say it's just a natural one. I could get it. I could, you know,

in a place where maybe you don't expect it. Obviously, if it's California, you've got fault lines, you know where where these earthquakes are going to be. But they were unprepared for a hurricane in New Orleans. And if you know anything about the geography of New Orleans, it's right, you know, it's at the back of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean it gets hit by hurricanes. This is not a surprise, it's not breaking news.

It's not something that's just started happening. This is the way. And on top of all that, we have satellite radar, you have four days advanced notice to know that a hurricane is coming. I get it. There's different directions, and they run those hurricane trackers and shows there's like eighteen different

ways it can go. But still, when you've got a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico that is more than likely going to hit New Orleans, I'm not accepting their excuse that their quote overwhelmed during Katrina and Hurricane Andrew in ninety two as well. So, so you know, the thing is that you you watch this and you go, you know, Bush's famous Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job. Really, that made me question if Brownie's doing a heck of a job, maybe we're unclear on what the job really

is, Tony. It's a good question. I think Churchoff was more interested in scanning your body than scanning for hurricanes. Yeah, for sure on that

one. Yeah, No, this is this is where We really have to dig deep as researchers because it seems like some of these agencies that we do know, like for different documents like REX eighty four and some of these other things like continuity of government, they use these agencies to preserve of their power, yeah you know, and and again protect protect the government all the rest. Uh. They can be both nefarious and completely incompetent. And you have

to wonder is the incompetence on purpose? Is it meant to make us feel like there is I mean, again, I don't trust the government to come help me you talk. I mean, Hurricane Katrina is a glaring example of that. But have they ever done They seem to not ever be able to predict, like you said, hurricane, there's hurricane season, you know where basically where the where the hurricanes I mean in a general vicinity or where they're

gonna hit and all the rest and the damage is usually gonna happen. You're gonna have some warning, but they get it wrong. And it's it's really one of those one of those areas is researchers where we look at something like the female, we look at something like the continuity of government and how they use these agencies and use the power of an emergency to strip you of your liberties. I mean, look at what happened in New Orleans with gun confiscation.

Yes, right right, that was a real thing happening in real time because of these emergency edicts and so on, people comply with it coming down from the federal government. So there's that that went really well for them, Like they were able to do that, but they can't also get food and water and direct people to the proper shelter. It's it's it is a mixed bag, isn't it. Yeah, And it happens. It happens everywhere.

I mean, what about the Puerto Rico hurricane as well, where they had people that desperately needed water and they had a warehouse filled with pallets of water and they couldn't get the two together. They couldn't find it. You know. It's like at some point you have to you have to ask, is the incompetence a cover story for a nefarious component to this? You know what I mean? Like I hate there is that old adage, you know,

never never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. But I've seen so much in these people or both though they're both incompetent and malicious. And so where is where the ven diagram of incompetence and maliciousness intersects in a place? And I'm curious, you know, like every time FEMA gets an opportunity to step up, they they they fail. And and so I started to

wonder about this. You know, I remember hearing Oliver North's name. I mean, I knew what he looked like, but I was twelve when he was going through, you know, when when all these things were going on.

But I remember that he was a big deal. And then as I got older and got more into this sort of I don't know these topics, I remember hearing about REX eighty four Readiness Exercise eighty four meaning nineteen eighty four, and and so you dig into this and it was a big It was a big to do about REX eighty four, and I was like, wow, that, well, what is it exactly? And what it was was

it was two parallel stimulations that were running at the same time. One of them was Night Train, which was a fake simulation or simulation of invading a Central American country, oh, I don't know, like Nicaragua. And and then the REX eighty four component was FEMA's a response, when the general public finds out about this deeply unpopular thing that the government is doing in Central America,

the public's going to have a problem with it and rise up. And REX eighty four was their solution to the problem of people rising up and there and the solution for it was concentration camps. You know, so when people start going, oh, you guys with your talk about FEMA camps and in all this stuff, get out of here with that. It's not I'm not it's not conspiracy theory. It's conspiracy analysis. This is what was going on. This was this was coming up on forty years ago, and Oliver North

was deeply involved. And the guys that were part of this, Lewis Defrido was running FEMA and another guy named John Brinkerhoff. That these were the guys that created REX eighty four and they were trying to make the case and bring in people. They brought in a guy from the War College who had who who was whose paper when he was in college was talking about rounding up people and putting them in camps. But in his in his document, in his

college document, it was African American people. So it was like really bad, right, and so you would think, oh, automatic disqualification. No, they brought this guy in and said run it, run it for us, right. And so I've gotten to the point where I say, Okay, there is in competence with FEMA. I get this, But what about REX eighty four. You know that's a nefarious plan. And so if that is going on in the background, then I have questions, Tony. I

mean, I always have questions, but they're they're there. I could have just said Michael Brown is incompetent. He was the wrong guy for the job, and George W. Bush was complimenting him because he's also incompetent, and together they they you know, they probably thought they were doing a good job. I could maybe sort of get on board with that and just say it's

incompetence. But the further I dig into FEMA, the more I don't like what I see, and and the fact that they have that their control mechanism comes from the President and not Congress as a problem because you wind up finding that this is this becomes a weaponized bureau where they're always involved in something, you know, like when the when the emergencies come and and I think when you mentioned like the gun grabbing during Katrina, I think they got a little

test run with that one where they could say, oh, this works really well in an emergency, but it's a hurricane, so we have kind of a limited time span on how long this emergency will last. At some point it kind of it's over, right, But what if it wasn't over? What if we could make the emergency last forever? And we could we could rule through emergency, and so then you you know, and that's two thousand and what's two thousand and six when Katrina happened two thousand and five? Yeah,

you you you go. Well, they put that on the back burner and realized it's easier to run this place under emergency decree than that way we can take the guns, like, oh, well we have amend you can't take Oh no, no, no, it's an emergency though, oh an emergency, well then a year, here are my guns? Right? So you see this with COVID, You see the same mentality thinking like, well, is I mean, we could tell all these people what to do, but you know they might not do it. But if we create an emergency,

well then they have to do it. We wanted to do, and so it it made me feel like less comfortable with this being just an incompetent government bureaucracy that's bogged down with red tape and no accountability. And it made me think that I think that ultimately, I think that is a cover for the nefarious actions that are going on. I mean, to the two things can be happening simultaneously, you can be doing both, but but they're there.

Definitely is something going on behind the scenes that that femas involved in. Well, I think the most malevolent us, the most incompetent, right, that's their figure, that's their puppets. That their favorite puppet is the you know you know and George Bush Jo W. Bush still's Michael Brown, Brownie doing a heck of a job. I mean, I just kind of have an image of Satan like saying the same thing to George W. Bush doing a heck of a job. You know, you're doing a heck of a

job down there. They had a great job seven and a half minutes. Wait for my pet go to finish. If not, why America's under attack? Yea, no, you're you're right, And and that's that's really the you know on the surface level, it looks like, wow, they're so incompetent, like you look TSA. It's like, have you stopped a hijacker? Have you? You know, have you done anything right besides grope Grandma

and slow down everything and make traveling just unbearable and maybe done anything? The answer is no. But they continue to harness more and more power, more and more surveillance, more and more data is grab through that. So, yeah, on the service that we got, this incompetent thing that really isn't again the invisible enemy. Charlie, and you and I are going to be speaking next weekend in New York City on this great panel that I mean, it's just an honor to be a part of for a Free World inn YC.

And we're gonna be talking about this, I mean again, invisible enemies. We can't stop it. Oh, you know, Norad stands down because you can always get you know, people that live in caves get nora Ad to stand down all the time. I don't know if you knew that, Charlie, but yeah, you a complete hijacking of our defense systems. All that is, you know, the order still stands from Dick Chaine hijackers can

do that too, from the Middle East or from caves in Afghanistan. So yeah, the invisible enemy and we can't help anything and we're just this pitiful giant. But also the flip side of that was the Patriot Act. Yeah, right, so we it wore forever seven countries in five years. They didn't quite make it, but they kind of did. It wasn't exactly what Wesley Clark was told, but it came pretty close. All of it was criminal and dangerous and murderous and has stripped us of what was left of the

tattered constitution. So yes, you get you get both of these things. You get in competence. No one was fired for nine to eleven, which should be a tell, right, like someone should have lost some employment somewhere. No one did because if you open up that cannon warns and you have to do an investigation. And did you just get the nine to eleven report that originally the Bush administration wanted to offer up three million dollars in funding the

nine to eleven families were outraged. They made it thirteen million. And I'd have to point out to the audience that the inauguration of George W. Bush, the second one costs thirty million. So that's how much they care about real information. And really, by the way, building seven's not in the nine to eleven report, and I'm sure we'll be talking about Building seven coming up here at Free World, NYC and go to event bright dot com. Come meet Charlie. I mean I'll be there, but you get to meet

Charlie Robinson. I got to meet Charlie with the American Liberty Awards, and I'm going, I can't believe I'm just I'm talking to Charlie. Charlie Robinson. You know, we're having we're having an after show conversation and with Brad from five Times August. Yes, by this is how we talk and private as well. We just talked we do the show basically this is talking about But yeah, you're so right, and that's why I thought this was a was a great episode. And uh, you know, people should go check

out your podcast macro Aggressions. There's more, there's tons of this stuff. Yeah, well there's a there's a part in this REX eighty four where they talk about that they want to test military assist since in civil defense, and I go, martial law military assistance in civil defense. We're talking martial law.

So they want to role play these things in advance, and so you know, listen, I'm I'm, I'm with And then the night you mentioned the nine to eleven Commission Report or nine to eleven oh Mission report, you remember who they wanted to put to run that thing at first right for lasted for about two weeks old Heinrich ol Heinz Kissinger was going to be in charge of that, and then the mom the wives just said, you got to get out of here with that guy, like we're not listening to this is

crazy that you that you think. But that's how little they think of you, of evert of all of us, that that we'll just oh, you want you want answers for nine to eleven, we're gonna put Okay, we got a guy that he's gonna get right to the bottom of Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Henry Kissinger. He's gonna get out of here. Commission. Here's Alan Dellas. Yeah, we're going to tell you how it all happened here. Great, yeah, but this is this is what you do when you're

being run by criminals. You know that that don't that don't you know? I think that that over the last couple of years, people have started to the we all all kind of understood this, but like the normy crowd is starting to come to this realization that the government that they live under not only

doesn't love them, but in fact actually despises them. And and they and they they're so resentful of us. They think that this governing business would go so much better if it wasn't for all these stupid people that they had to deal with, right, you know, they just they just feel like you get this feeling that that they feel that we're taking up too much space on

their planet. Like the roles have been reversed. This used to be that were the people, and we'll put this little government together to kind of help represent us the people. But that's gone. I mean, the government doesn't represent the people at all these days. In fact, that the government thinks that the people work for them, you know. And so the the roles

have been reversed. And what's and that's obviously terrifying and horrific. But what the I think maybe the most devious component of this is that they've gotten the general public to agree to it. And and and now that now that we're subjugated under the you know, under the boot of the government. There's a lot of people that say, you know, stomp on me harder, daddy. You know, they they want to be told what to do by the government, and that this a sort of a lack of you know, take

take all the burden off of me. I don't want any responsibility. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Thinking it's hard. You know, I don't know what I want. You tell me, television, You tell me, Joe Biden, You tell me what what I need to do for medically to take care of my body. I when you outsource your thinking to the government, you really can't. You can't complain, you can't act surprised when you when you get poor results, because that's what they're that's

that's what they think of you. So the relationship between the government and the people has all, you know, has been bad for a while. But I think lately a lot of people that maybe we're asleep at the wheel have come, you know, have come to realize this. So if we're going to take anything good out of what we've gone through with the with the the latest version of the invisible Enemy, you know, one day, it was terrorism, and then it's COVID. Now now we know we're moving into carbon,

another invisible enemy that's just around the corner. Tony's gonna kill you. You can tell you, un let's you pay more taxes for it. I think a lot of people are like this all seems very fake and disjointed. So I kind of you know the good thing about having incompetent people in positions of powers that over time, eventually it becomes obvious to everybody that these people are incompetent, so or maybe not the the incompetent people don't realize that the

end of people are incompetent. It's dunning Krueger. I don't know, but this, this is kind of this is kind of this is kinda you know, the stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're stupid, that sort of that sort of thing. But but it's been you know, look, I wish we didn't have to go to New York next week. I wish we didn't have to have these conversations. But the and there's nothing we can do to to reverse what happened with nine to eleven except to make sure that

we don't ever allow something like that to happen again. And unfortunately, I think a lot of people don't really understand that, you know, twenty two years almost twenty and and and and I and there's a segment of the population I still think nineteen Arab hijackers with box cutters did it, you know. I mean, it's like, and they call us conspiracy theorists. That's the

biggest conspiracy theory I've ever heard. Oh really ninety I mean if if if the if the official story of nine to eleven was that planes got struck by lightning, and that was and everybody accepted that, And then I came out with a theory that nineteen Arab hijackers with box cutters did it. It flew it wildly off of course, with nobody bothering them. They would fit me

for a straight jacket immediately and a tinfoil hat. But but because it was the first story that people heard and it was the official story, people bought

it, even though it's disconnected from reality. So if if we're going to have these events, like we're going to talk about nine to eleven, since we can't change the past, what we can do is we can get people to look at things differently in the future, so that they recognize this when they see it, or they recognize the building blocks of where we're going before he see. You know, I think a lot of people did this with Ukraine, with this Ukraine war. They're like, this feels like, you

know, you can almost feel like the false flag. You can sort of sense it. And like people that don't do this for a living, we're like, oh, there's false flags, like you know about false flags now I'm talking about normy friends, Like you know about Like this feels like a false flag, Like okay, you know, like let's go, Like, so there's a people, there's a group of people waking up and and if you're aware to this, you know, I feel like you can never be

unaware of it afterwards. Once the light goes on, you see it, whether you want to or not. Yeah, once you expand with your mind expands, it can't contract back to where you were when you believe this kind of stuff. And I mean we're all guilty of buying into some sort of mainstream narrative at some point. I mean, I've gotten better at over the years. I arrived here like like you did. I mean, you just

if you read history, because past is prologue. You know, if you read history then and especially if you dive a little deeper, ask a few more questions, what you find is it's not what you were taught. The narrative starts to break down. It's one of the most important things that we do, and you do on this on your show, and David does here on David Night Show. Just get people to think a second time, Just think one more time. Do it again, you know, thought experiment like

nine eleven. You know, you have three buildings collapse into their own footprint in two planes. Not that a plane will make it do that anyway, you know. And I was talking about on my show the day I was like, you know the there was it was it a B twenty nine or B twenty seven bomber that flew into the side of the Empire State Building in the nineteen forties. Didn't collapse, you know, did didn't not burn down, and just you know, as it was a fire as a and that's

a big plane. And I think the the World Trade Centers were built to withstand seven thirty seven and again that that what does that mean? Does withstand? It means like it stays intact and it's not. You know, David tells the story all time because when he heard about nine to eleveny all, I had radio, so he thought they were like collapsing and falling over.

Because as an engineer, you would think, okay, well maybe it got so bad, like there was so much structural damage that it started to collapse, But you would never think that this this perfect symmetrical collapse and do its own. That's impossible. It's impossible, and you just have you finally have to arrive at that this, you know, and people people are waking up.

You know, you go back, you talk about an emergency. Trump's executive order Friday the thirteenth, March twenty twenty that went way past a thousand days. Remember it was two weeks to flatten the curve and that survived into

way into Joe Biden's presidency. So yeah, they do use emergencies. And the question is is you know there's the overt because I think if we ran a thought experiment and asked, you know, in twenty twenty, if Hilly Clinton, Hilly Clinton was president, would we have locked down with there with the states and all these petty potentates? What they have followed I don't think so. I don't think it would have gone that way. It's the trust,

the plan, trust the man. We're okay for d Chess. It reminds me we get to do the coolest things folks, like when you get I was on air Live with with Don Jeffries and g Edward Griffin and I had I got to tell g. Edward Griffin that I read the creature from Jackal Island and he was one of the people that inspired me to go into the gold and silver business. I'm telling this that she ever Griffin right, and we ask him like, what's the what's one thing you really like to

impart? So this is coming from a you know, he's in his nineties and a wise wise man, have been around a long time, seen a lot, and I think one of the most genuine human beings on the planet. And he says, beware of controlled opposition. It's the number one enemy, you know what I mean. Beware beware of someone who seems to be

on your side but is actually playing for the other side. And because that's where we get into trouble charm, all these emergencies and all the things that can be used we as thinking people and those of us especially, you know, those are value voters and Christians and people that love the constitution, libertarian whatever. If you don't like the if you don't like the thing, you know, the thing right with the Joe Biden, if you don't like that,

you're you're subject to this. And we have to be very careful. We don't have many heroes. I mean, anybody, anybody that's gonna get elevated to where a mass of people knows about's a very few of those folks are going to be actually on your side. So I think in the danger, in the emergencies and all the things that roll out, we have to be careful of. I think just hidden in that is the chance that we will fall prey to that as well, where somebody's on my side and they're

really not. It's true. And and I poor ed I got. I had a layover in in Mexico City going to an Arcapulco with him, and and I didn't know him, and it was my first I was it was twenty nineteen. I was on my way there. He was going to be speaking, I was going to be speaking, and I said to hey, I'm he's just kind of sitting there waiting for our flight talk from Mexico City to Acapulco. We had like an hour. Poor guy, I talked his ear off. I mean, he felt so bad, but I had a

million questions. I said, Hey, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be seeing you speak tomorrow. He goes, He looks at me and he goes, sorry to hear that. You know, he's just he's a fun guy. And we we talked about quite a bit of you know, a kind of when you've got the guy that wrote the creature from Jacko Island sitting next to you and he can't go anywhere and you I mean, I was respectful, of course, but I had questions, and so we we talked about a lot of stuff. And I and I when you when he when he

he says to be careful of controlled opposition. Boy, I mean we're getting into another election cycle. In case you didn't notice, come on and uh, and you want to talk about controlled opposition? I mean, you go, well, did this guy's saying what I want to hear? He's saying the things he's doing that you know he's doing all that. And you go, but but you know, I've heard these things before. You guys have told us this stuff before I know, or or it's a it's a it's

a new flavor, and you go, I like this new flavor. I've never seen this Ramaswamy flavor. This it's interesting. Tell me more about it, and you go. And then you go, well, it was a World Economic forum, young global leader, and you go, well, that's an automatic disqualification. Well you got it. He got a letter saying from them saying that he's not And I go, really, Klaus show made that wrote that letter for him. That's that to me, sounds like what you

would do if you were like, I'm not in the club. Wink wink, here's my letter, you know what I mean. Like, So, unfortunately for me, I don't trust any of them. I just my default mechanism is I don't trust anything. You guys say, you're gonna need to show me. And and Trump did that for his four years he came in and you know, look, there's there's I can compartmentalize my feelings on Trump because I wasn't like, you know, a lot of people became emotionally handicapped

around Trump, like they lost their minds. He broke their brains. They either loved him so much in an unhealthy or they hated him so much in an unhealthy Arab's kind of in the middle. I never really cared. I don't like that personality type to begin with. But politics wise, I was

observant. I was just watching him and I got I got a really bad feeling when the queue movement started, and because I spotted that, and Kevi Baker and I just have these great conversations about it, because he spotted it right away too, And it felt like when they said, you know, you can almost you can almost see it coming. You can almost connect the dots in your head. All you people, you know that they're the other side is really bad and they're doing all this nefarious stuff. We're going to

educate you about it. But then what we want you to do is do nothing. We want you to go stand in the corner and trust the plant and wait. Patriots are at work. It's all happening behind the scenes. People are being taken to going to but we're not going to activate you yet. So we need you to know this, but we need you to stand down, and we need you to just trust that things are happening behind the scenes. Chick Okay, fine, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait,

I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait. And then here comes Biden and you go, well, where was the plan? And you go, right, Nolan, was the plan was for you? Oh? Trust the plan? Yeah? I forgot to tell you what the plan was. The plan was to make you to neuter you guys, so that you did nothing, so that you stood around waiting and instead of actually getting involved.

And so when you see that and you and you go, that's despicable, right, that's a that's a that's a crappy way to treat people that are genuinely enthusiastic about trying to get a better form of government. And I you know, and so here we come round two of Trump, and you know, he's saying all the things. You know, this time around, I'm gonna lock her up and and and and Glenn Beck was talking to him

like, I don't know yesterday, two days ago. He said, you know, you said in twenty sixteen you were gonna lock her up, and you didn't. And now given what you what you see, how do you feel about locking people up? And he says, well, this time around, I would definitely lock people up. And it's like, Okay, well

again, sounds good. Trump born, right, you get this fantasy like Hillary Clinton getting purp locked and handcuffs and oh, I mean amazing, right, But it's not like you didn't know who Hillary Clinton was in twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen or twenty nineteen. You could have done all these things back then, you know. It Just it feels it feels like ropodope again.

It feels like it feels like you're people are getting suckered in again. And so I I will tell you though, I mean you talk about like controlled opposition, be careful for these guys, these guys that come out of nowhere and are all of a sudden the media establishment is platforming them. They don't do that to people that they hate. They they don't platform. They don't want to platform Trump really because his power. But I see the Grandmaswami everywhere,

right, I see him everywhere. They must want him to be the guy. I see Ron de santists everyone. They must want him to be the guy. I don't like any of them, I don't trust any of them, and so I don't know where we're gonna be in an interesting time though. I think ultimately, I think ultimately, if the establishment has their way, they're gonna get that soulless psychopath in San Francisco, Gavin Newsom and put him in because he looks like a guy that might finally push down the

plunger on this controlled demolition. Well, I think you're I mean, he's testing the waters too, and I don't know if he's still angling at the Santists because I think he was seeing that maybe the Santists will be his his opposition and they the general election or something of I don't know if that the Santists campaign is gonna last. Mean, now we do these campaigns and they're they're just farther and farther and farther out. It's like people don't realize politics.

I mean, a year in politics is an eternity. I mean, you're talking about so much can happen that the amount of money you have to raise now, and it's it's all ridiculous, you know, and again you talking. I don't know if you heard the Second Hour, but Don Jefferies was saying that he was reading a report that back in the nineties, one of the people and al Sharpton's TV audience was a young Rama Swami and the other one was Pete Buttershed. But the chances of that, like that's when

you were being fed people. That's why they called it a news feed, right, We're being fed people being fed these characters, and they put nobody did that for Ron Paul. I mean, Ron Paul had like you know, they had hot air balloons and blimps and overhead passes and people like just you remember the Ron Paul Revolution. It was all brass roots. They dominate, they come, they have all these people at these straw folds, and then somehow lose like that's the only you know, again, the game is

rigged. And they would you know, all the polls would come out and Ron Paul would win and the media go, well, and you know Mitt friend, they would start at Mitt Romney or they'd started McCain over the top Tony. One time there was I saw this on uh oh god, it must have been was an MSNBC. It had to have been MSNBC. It was like, uh, I don't know Mitt Romney number one, I forget who a new game Ridge number two and then some other guy number four,

and it's like where's number three? Number three was Ron Paul, But it was like they were like one, two, and four, and I was like, you've got to be kidding me, Like it's so obvious that they hate anybody that that that postes a threat to the establishment. So so again, you just have to you have if you know that, if you know how they how these guys operate, then you know that if there's a candidate that that's being allowed to be presented and getting a ton of support, that

should just make you give it a second look. That's all. We're just asking people to be critical thinkers. We're asking, like you said, to sect take a second pass through this information. What do you what do you think like based on what you know, why do you think they're allowing this guy to have the platform that he has? And and part of that is, I think because he's not a threat to the establishment. If here's a threat to the establishment, he'd get the wrong poll treatment, you'd get the

you know, he he'd that's what they do. They'd they'd put out polls and forget to put the number three guy in there. It's crazy. Well, you with with twenty minutes left, and I might take a little bit of time at the end while you're plugging to figure out how to play the outro music. Travis, I mean, I'm at to download it in real time, so you guys have to bear with me. We won't we won't lose any of the audio, but I want to see if I could actually

do. I'm producing myself with a laptop, and I don't have my usual If you see, my books aren't behind me, Charlie. So it doesn't mean I haven't read books or that I don't have books with me. But I thought you finished them all. I'm like Thomas Jefferson. He sold them to the Library of Congress for twenty four thousand dollars. I think from one point he was was broke. I don't if you do that, but I wanted to ask you, with a little bit of time left, you know

all this stuff. I mean, you cover so much material and macro aggressions. You've written about this. I mean your book The Octopus of Global Control is really like your entrance onto the stage in alternative media. It's it's a very well written book. I referenced it all the time. I cared on my kindle too. I've got it in paperback but I'll but just going through subject matter, I think it's just refreshing what we do because there's so much

good work in there. Thank you. Would you say that there's a blueprint in your mind? I mean, we all talk about the problems. We talk about what's wrong, we talk about what's facing us, what could go wrong, what has gone wrong? The origin story, This is what we do. But have you thought about a blueprint for how do we turn it around? How is it? What can you save? Obviously you don't want to conserve something that is I mean, you wouldn't want to conserve our politics

now, But how do you how do you create something new? You have you thought where would you start? If you were gonna tell people this is where we go to turn things around. Well, it's funny you say that because I had I had doctor Shiva on a couple of weeks ago. You talking about a guy that's he's just had it with everybody and I and he's a systems engineer, And I started off with this question. The United States government is a gigantic system. Your systems engineer, what do we do?

Do we have? We have two choices. Do we fix the current system

or do we build a brand new system. And his response was, it's tempting to want to build a brand new system, but when you look at a system, and he used Amazon as an example of how the network works, the supply chain, the distribution hubs, the warehouses, all that, millions and millions of man hours went into conceptualizing that, ultimately building it out and building the infrastructure for Amazon to be what it is, right, And he used that as an example, and he said, you want to build

a parallel system to this government, good luck, We need it, but good luck because it requires the It requires massive amounts of time, effort, and money that we don't have, he said. So instead of that, he says that he is a believer that the system can be fixed. So you look for weak points, You look for areas where you where you can get a foothold in there. The currency is definitely one of them. I believe that this is this if we're talking about changing things, things are going

to change when the dollar gets loses its reserve currency. Now Berwick and I kind of describe this at the tail end of control demolition. We made this comparison to December twenty six, two thousand and four, BANDA Ace, Indonesia. How the people walked, woke up that morning and went out to the beach and there's no water gone right. The tourists said, this is crazy. They went out and took selfies and found a you know, found a starfish because there's no water anymore. And it was wild. It was They

didn't know what to make of it. But the people that had experience, and instinctively the animals as well, went to higher ground. They knew what that meant. They knew what they when they saw that go out and and it come, they knew it was going to come back in tenfold. We're at a point right now, Tony where I feel like, if we're on that beach, if you're waiting for the news to tell you time to get

off the beach, it's too late. You need to recognize and trust your instincts and know you see what you see, grab the people closest to you, say we gotta go get yourself to higher grounds, and however you do. However that means, Now, that might take on a variety of forms, but I think we getting yourself out of the banking system would be a great way to do it. Obviously, I know I'm talking to a gold and silver gun. I don't need to tell you that. But but just

I'm not even saying invest in gold in silver necessarily. I'm saying, just transform the physical nature of your soon to be worthless federal reserve notes. Just change form, change them into something else, Change them into gold, change them inself. Even if they do nothing for you, even if they don't go up in value, just just flip them while you can get yourself sort. Get yourself something that is outside of the system, doesn't have a counterparty

risk to it, doesn't have you know you're not. I'm not saying go buy GLD the stock exchange, don't do that. I'm saying, buy yourself some physical metals and get yourself as self sufficient as you can. That might mean get yourself educated. Download the books that you can download while you can, you know anything that's gonna help you. Things books that are about how to grow your own food. I had no interest in ever being a farmer.

I zero interest. But I'll tell you I watched my grandparents in Tennessee when I was growing up. I would go stay at their at their place, and they had a little farm. They had a little garden, there and they generated more food from that than they could ever eat, and they gave it out to all the people. And it wasn't it might have been twenty yards by five yards, I mean it was not big and that was enough to So I remember that, and they were always canning. And I

think that's a different era. So be proactive, not reactive. The people that are watching the mainstream media, they're going to be reactive and they're gonna be far behind you. So we've got an opportunity here. We've got an opportunity to to you know, when the reshuffling of society comes with you know, a breakdown of the money system and and you know, potentially lawlessness,

you don't want to be the last guy figuring it out. And if you're waiting for the for to get your infant, you're waiting for the news to tell you what to do. First of all, they don't, they don't. They hate you. Smith Mount Modernization Act of twenty twelve legalized line for

them on you. So that's not a good source. But I think that we've been conditioned, unfortunately to sort of wait to be told what to do, to trust the plan, to just sit here and wait tell me when to when to act, tell me when to activate, Tell me when the time to activated. Isn't that it was yesterday? So so trust yourself. Get out in front of this early. Get yourself financially, you know,

out of the system is to the extent that you can understand that. As a somebody holding a bank account in the United States of America, you are an unsecured creditor. That money is. When you put your money into your bank account, it becomes the property of the bank, and the bank if the bank needs to take it, they can take it, bail in if if if the bank collapses and they need to make people whole, the bond holders are in front of you. So you're you're an unsecured creditor in third

position. Not a good place to be. Start understand that, Start making moves in advance. You don't have to make a big deal about it. You don't have to tell everybody about it, but just start thinking, you know the look the preppers were right, Tony, I mean, we kind of goofed on them a little bit and said, oh, you guys are kind of kind of weird with your with your prepper ideas. The preppers were

right. They were they were talking about this early. They were saying, you've got to get yourself as as detached from the system as you can be, as self sufficient as as possible, and and talk to the people close to you, the people that will listen to. People that haven't, you know, turned you off because they think that you're you know, you were talking about some COVID things and they thought that you're insane. Talk to the

people that will listen to you. Prioritize your time, prioritize your energy, and start it now, and start doing it now. And what you'll find is that the universe, whatever, something out there, will put you in a situation where more of those things start to come your way. You'll interact with people, feel thing as you. You'll go to a farmer's market. You'll meet a guy not too far away from you that sells beef directly. You know, that's a good guy to know. You know you can know

that guy. No, you know, have a plan, as Terrence McKenna says, if you don't have a plan, you've become part of somebody else's plan. Right. So we're at a point now where and we just talked about trusting the plan, right, bad idea. Don't do that, trusting yourself, trust in your own plan. If you do that and you do the things that you know you need to do in advance of it, we're

all gonna we're all gonna feel the effects of the tsunami. But you'd rather be at high ground, man, And you feel bad for the people that you didn't figure it out, and you wish you could save them, And I want to save everybody, but that's unrealistic when a bunch of people are, you know, pretending to You mentioned the Octopus book, when you know I've got seven hundred quotes from five hundred different people in that book. But there's a there's a quote in there that I always I always liked. It's

a Navajo proverb. You cannot wake somebody that is pretending to be asleep. That's where we are. We've got a bunch of people pretending to be asleep. So it was dangerous times. The tsunami analogy is brilliant. And I'll never forget. That was my birthday. It's the day I turned twenty five years old in December twenty six, two thousand and four, So I know that and that event well, and you're You're right, a lot of people

they didn't see. You know, I want to say it was our Buckminster Fuller said that people cannot get out of the way of what they don't see coming. So that's why what we do is importance near and dear to my heart, because I think, all right, I studied history, I've lived through a lot of history. I have no other agenda here other than let's let's find out what the absolute truth is because I wanted to guide me as

well. I mean, you know, we lose money and revenue and listeners when we don't grab on the easy stuff that would be I mean truly phoning it in for either politics or picking a particular ideology or person. I know, Charlie, I mean this, this group of people that were in we I don't there's no Briffers. So we we tend to stick to what we

can prove. And I think that's that's so apt. I mean, you think about people not being able to see what's happening, and that's why I started the show off this morning and I mentioned Triffin's dilemma, Robert Triff and the economists back in the sixties and what happens when you lose the world's reserve currency status. What happens bre Patriot trillions or quadrillions, whatever it is, those currency units crash. I mean, we just we've never experienced that.

I mean, we've had a depression, we've had for war, but we've never just lost the world's reserve currency status because we've only had it since nineteen forty four. You know, before that, it was the British. The British had an empire on which the sun would never set, and then they later became what gore Vidal called an aircraft carrier for the United States. I mean, that's what they were, That's what the that's what Great Britain was.

So it's it's I think so much monumental change is coming. But you're right about really just sourcing. If you want to change the world, you start with yourself, and you kind of start with your local community and in your family. How you were prepared to weather those storms. Yeah, obviously I'm in the gold and silver business, so I plugged that. But I mean, even if you're not doing any business with me, you understand that

gold and silver are money. And there's a reason why the Federal Reserve Bank doesn't buy gold. Okay, every other bank, every other central bank in the world is there are many of them are hand over fist buying, like China and Turkey and Russia. I mean just massive buyers of gold. There's a reason why the United States is not because our system is a war with value. So you need to embrace value, whether that's land or a business

or something, because the game is rigged against you. Robert Kiyosaki famously says that savers are losers. This doesn't mean it as an insult, but you put it, you know, a dollar in a bank account, that's silly. It just is you need to have something that is outside without third counterparty risk that you hold in your hand. And you know I've talked about I'm still a fan of cryptocurrency in a lot of ways. I again, it's

be cautious right now. I'm just a bitcoin maximalist at this point. I buy a little bit bitcoin every day is a savings I mean, just to hedge against what's happening, and I think that that could be something that's going to be on the horizon is a good thing. I'm again not telling people to go buy anything. I'm not making any recommendation telling you what I do, and then that's I'm betting against the system. At the end of the day, what I do when I wake up in the morning is I bet

against this system. And so I've been doing it for years. It's been very kind to me because of wonderful people like in your in your audience and David's audience and my own audience, and people that trust me and trust my company. H and I've I'm able to pay my bills because of it. Thank god. I'm very I'm very humble. But bet against this system, you know, that's step number one. It's like, you know, you're basically channeling George Carling. It's like rule number one. I never believe anything

the government tells me. I guess that's why I go to that this morning. So it's interesting we're on the same wavelength. But no, you're you're You're just absolutely right. We're in unprecedented times. Shows like this, shows like yours so very important. What the work that you're doing just hearts and minds, you know, to steal something from the leaders in Vietnam. Uh,

But yeah, that's there's something to that. We're in a psychological, spiritual war and the you know, changing hearts, changing the way people see things is I think the most important job in the world right now, especially with all the censorship and the amount of lies. So anyway, I want to give you some final thoughts. Stroty Hill. Tell people where they can find you. We got about I mean, but we can go right up to the three hour mark, but I'm going to go look for the way

to death. The outro. Well, I'll start by saying, focus on the people that are close to you, the people that will listen to you. Prioritize your energy and your efforts in this in this part of at this time, because we're running out of time. I appreciate you having me. You know you are. You've You've been on Macroaggressions plenty of times. I've described you as the most interesting man in the world, and not way more interesting than the Doseki's guy. I will say, based on your background,

great to meet you in person a couple of weeks ago. See you next week. But for those that are interested, Macroaggressions goes out twice a week as an audio podcast. Wherever podcasts are served on Sundays, they go out as a video or they go out as an interview and on Wednesdays they go out as a monologue. This Sunday, David Ike's coming on. We talk about climate terrorism and we talk about the simulation theory. He's got a new book called The Dream, so we talked about that, We talked about DMT,

we talked about a kind you know I had. It is the best conversation I've ever had with David Ike. It was. It was so good that when we got done, his people were like, can we get a copy of that? You know? Like and I knew, like I knew about halfway through. Oh this is a banger man. People are gonna love this one. So so Macroaggressions and audio format anywhere in video format rock fans

good place for it. You can find. You can find me my website, the Octopus of Global Control dot com where you can find out of information about the books that I've written, and on Twitter at Macroaggressions, on Instagram at Macroaggressions Podcast. So we're doing what we can spreading the word through the established media channels. But you know, we get no love. We have no thrown off of YouTube. As everybody husband, there's there's no point.

So I guess I took it as a sign must be doing something right if YouTube came for me. But I appreciate. Look, I appreciate the support of the of the of the viewers and the listeners, because like you said, if you, if you, if you're interest is in finding the truth, and then you're not going to be on the red team or the blue team, and that really eliminates a sizeable portion of your audience. So I don't need to be the biggest show in the world. I just want to

have great information and great guests, and and so I appreciate. I appreciate you haven't given me the opportunity to come back on and and talk to the the audience, because I think this audience, you know, this audience understands what's going on. But but this audience also has a responsibility, and that is to talk to the people close to them to the extent that they can.

Don't beat don't come off as crazy, he's into it. But identify the people that you can talk to, let them know what's going on, and and tell them to be proactive. It's the only way to go. Well, so appreciate you being here. Magnificent. The third hour, as always you're a go to I know that you'll show up and you're gonna bring some magnificent information. So appreciate you. Charlie the Octopus of Global Control dot com Ladies and gentleman. The podcast is Macro Aggressions. Look for Charlie.

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