5Oct23 What Can We Learn from EBS (Extra BS) Zombie Apocalypse — THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN?

Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to the David Night Show as a clock strikes thirteen. It's Thursday, the fifth of October, one day after the EBS, which is perhaps not the emergency broadcast system, but the extra BA that we were told by all these people. So we're going to go back and take a look at this, what did and did not happen, what we should be concerned about, and what we should not be concerned

about. But we also had some very important court decisions that have come out, a very disturbing decision about David de Leiden and the Center for Medical Progress. We'll talk about that also the direction that these court decisions are heading. And by the way, one of our guests today, Tony Ardband, will be joining us wise Wolf Gold. We'll also have Guy Relford, who was a lawyer second Amendment lawyer in Indiana, is going to talk to us about

some very important self defense cases. There an important law that he got pushed through that made a big difference in one of these cases. To stay with us, we'll be right back. Well. Yesterday, Angry Tiger commented on a video, my wife saw it because they got senter because he commented on it, and she follows him. So you're not too shadow band yet,

angry tiger. But we'll see what happens. But it was a comment that he made posted by high Impact Flicks who said info Wars is saying the emergency alert system is going to be broadcast at a specific high frequency signal today yesterday, with the intention of activating graphene oxide and other nanoparticles that have been inserted into billions of human beings. To the jabberino, does anybody know where they're

getting that information? If true, what will graphene oxide activation quote unquote actually look like? Will it kill people? Will then turn them into zombies? So is it kill you, resurrect you as a zombie or does it turn you into zombie and then kill you? We need to know. And of course he says, do you buy any of this? And he posted this

little clip from Greg Greese's report. On October fourth, at two twenty two pm Eastern time, the emergency broadcast system will be activated across the entire United

States under the leadership of FEMA, disguised as a test. However, this test will be used to send a specific high frequency signal through devices like smartphones, radios, and TVs with the intention of activating graphine oxide and other nanoparticles that have been inserted into billions of human beings around the world through the obvious mediums. If the October fourth date does not occur for any reason, the backup plan will be to do it on October eleventh at the same time.

In the case that this is not able to be stopped, I asked you all to shut off your phone and all other relevant devices at two pm Eastern Time for a period of two hours to be safe. Okay, well, well you didn't follow his advice. But Anger Tiger's comment was utter and total bs. They spelled it out a little bit more specifically, though, hope it gets you lots of clicks and views, and of course it does. Oh they got record number of clicks and views, and they sold the nonsense

about the sting even though it was easily disproven. Right now, we've got twenty thousand troops out there rounding people up because you know, Trump has laid this trap for them. They had special blockchain watermarks planted on the balance. They know who forged this stuff, and they've already got National Guard troops fanning out across the country. On rock Fan, Handy said Trump must have done a covert mission. Yeah see, and saved us all in the last second.

You don't want the bad emergency broadcast, it's just a good one. Well, you know, that's some funny thing, is what I saw in terms of follow up on this stuff. I wasn't, you know, well, did anybody turn into a zombie? I wasn't looking for that, of course, but I was. I saw these articles about how first of all, people were complaining because it was early. It was two minutes early. And then of course you heard in that clip, I think he said two

twenty two. It was actually two twenty It was scheduled, but it actually went off at two eighteen. But other people were saying, I didn't get my signal. Complain about that, like where's my test, where's my mask, where's my jab? You know, I mean, you're always going to and that's really what they mean by zombies when the government refers to us as zombies. I had a lot of people very upset with me, as a matter of fact, and one person, as I mentioned earlier in the week,

said your controlled opposition, seriously, you won't look at proof. So as proof. He sent me a video that I had already debunked. I don't know if he watch his program or how much I may don't cover the same information every day I covered it. Somebody asked me the question. I gave him a quick answer at the very end of the show on Friday, and I looked at this and it's like, what is this nonsense? Over the weekend and I talked to on THEO talked about on the following Monday.

But anyway, he also sent me another video. Here is what the here's what the crew selling this stuff looks like. By the way, this is the video that he wanted me to pay attention to. Five G. Doctor Rashid Booter, Attorney Todd Calendar, Karen Kingston, retired says force means Air Force retired. They lost the Air Force anyway. Retired Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney how five G hydrogel and nanotechnology will be used to activate pathogens and

the COVID nineteen vaccines. Now, as one person said, we don't rule that stuff out, And as one of the listeners contacted me, he said, this is never about the dates. He says, this is a ruse for the actual zombie event. And so don't you understand these dates are simply placed there to dismiss the whole of the event as just woo wu, And I told you so, all the while the public will be completely unaware and

unprepared when it actually does happen. Well, I think all this stuff there's a bunch of woo wo to distract people from the real concerns about the vaccine and the real concerns about five G and those remain, and it doesn't have to be that, you know, the concerns are not that it's going to turn us into zombies, it's going to kill us. You met at the average well, yeah, what were you saying? Have you met what the average one? Have you met at the average leftist? The average average leftist?

What about them? Zombies? Already zombies? That's right, that's right, the average Well, you know, and we've seen them referring to us as zombies many times. I've talked about the NSA slides that were really only published in Germany by Deshpiegel. They were part of the Snowden documents, but the US press decided not to do it because it cast a negative light on

Apple that they that buys ads on their platforms. But it said, you know, who would have thought in nineteen eighty four, And it shows the Apple commercial pushing the Macintosh of the Ridley Scott commercial super Bowl commercial that only ran once, but people played it over and over again, that nineteen eighty four commercial. But this would become Big Brother. And they show Steve Jobs holding up the iPhone. Then they show an Apple store and everybody lined up,

and they said the zombies would line up to purchase it. They referred to us as zombies because they have absolutely no respect for us. They think we're walking dead, brainless idiots and that they've got to kill us. And so that is one aspect of it. But look, none of this is to say that the jabs are not dangerous. Anybody listens to me knows that I've been talking about this even before they went out. We knew they were going to be dangerous, and I know we had lots of evidence of this.

We don't know what is in the nanotech stuff, could be anything. We have seen particulates come out of the millions. One batch was one point four million, another batch was a million. Two different batches in Japan that they just destroyed. Because they had black particles that had precipitated out of the vaccines and they interacted with mag We don't know what this stuff is, and I said at the time, I said, perhaps this is why they have

to keep these things super cold. We don't know what is going to activate them, if it's going to be time released, or what is going on, or if it's five G. Five G has got its own issues, of course, as I've said over and over again, its own untested health issues and concerns, as well as the real concerns about privacy in a very real sense. Just like the vaccine also has issues of civil liberties in terms of saying your health doesn't matter, you're going to get this or else.

The five G has both civil liberties issues as well as health issues. So none of this is to say that that there's not concerns about those things. My concern is the same thing he's saying here, even though he thinks that the endgame here is zombies. I think the endgame is just to kill us, not to make us brain dead, not to kill us in resurrectus. I think they just want to kill us, and of course they want to control us if we remain alive. As long as as we remain alive,

that's the real agenda. And any of this stuff about a specific date, any specifics about how this stuff works, I think is just a bunch of nonsense. So let me go back to the EBS crew here. Now. I talked about Dan calendar, and it was pretty clear when he was giving all this specific information about the EBS system, the extra BS system that was coming out there, just recap it quickly. He said, it's eighteen gigherts and that's going to cause this stuff. You know, they've got pathogens that

are sealed inside the lipid nanoparticles. It's going to cause the lipid nanoparticles to dissolve and release those pathogens and it's going to create a new plague or whatever. Okay, well, eighteen gigaherts is not a five g frequency. And then he goes on to say, even though he focuses on the eighteen gigaherts over and over again, he goes on to say, and what's troubling about this EBS, this emergency broadcast is it's going to be activating all the frequencies.

Well, look, if you understand, and I talked about the fact that you've got all these frequencies. Every frequency of AM radio was out there all the time. It's just that you tune into specific ones, specific carrier signals, you tune into specific FM signals. They're all out there all the time. All the TV, all the Wi Fi, all the cell phone stuff is constantly there, and so that's nothing changes with the fact that they

are sending out information to everybody at the same time. Your phone is constantly sending and receiving if it's not turned off. None of that changed by the emergency broadcast system. So we know it was complete lunacy and Todd Calendar has got some real critical thinking issues here. Number one. Then we go to Karen Kingston, was who disappeared. Remember she was a whistleblower for Pfizer, And then everybody in the mainstream media was what's going on? Had she been

killed? She had been killed, you know, because we had Rashid Bhutar who had talked about these health effects and he died, So therefore it was a conspiracy. I don't know if it was or not. But then right after that, Karen Kingston disappears. Turns out she was the one who disappeared herself. She eventually came out. Mike Adams tried to resurrect her credibility. I'm sorry, I don't see her credibility. And then the worst of all,

Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney. And if you remember, it was mcinernie who, with the election fraud, was doing the same stuff as Steve Patchennik. He was the one. Mcinernie was the one who came out and said there's been a Special Forces operation on a German facility that had a German computing facility that was rigging the elections or something to that sort. Not true at all. It's just like Steve Chennick's thinking that, oh he got twenty thousand troops

out there arresting people. Mc and Ernie said right after the election, he came up with his own fable. And both of these guys have got a history of selling lies for the right wing military industrial complex at once perpetual war. McInerney sold the lies about the Iraq War, the lies that were the

product of torture. And the woman who was head of the torture and the woman who covered it all up, Gena Haspell, was promoted by Trump the head of the CIA, and so mcinernie was selling those lies to get us involved in the Iraq War, and he was pushing the Iraq war very hard and for George W. Bush. And then he's pushing this nonsense narrative about special operation forces that are happening, you know, over the election information at

the very beginning of all this stuff, getting everybody hyped up about all this stuff so they could push everybody into January the sixth. What a bunch of traders, what a bunch of Judas goat liars, just looking for clicks and views, and always given a platform by Alex Jones. So anyway, there's real concerns out there. This stuff takes people's real concerns away. But again, as I said yesterday, people were concerned because it didn't go off at

the scheduled time. It went off two minutes early. As a matter of fact, we were on the phone. We had a conference called Karen and I did with another person and the other person's phone did not go off. Both of our phones went off. We had to shut them down. The hurst didn't go off. And at Karen's phone, excuse me, she's got an iPhone. I got an Android phone, hers said Presidential message or something presidential on it, on the announcement, mindset emergency message or something. So

I guess that's the difference between the two systems. But the third persons didn't even go off, and so other people are complaining that theirs didn't go off. I didn't get my emergency broadcasting system. I didn't turn into a zombie or whatever, And so people going to social media, they complained that they had been left out. I didn't get my test or my mask, or my vaccine or my EMS. Why didn't I get the emergency alert all upper cases? Oh, I am so dead when the apocalypse comes. Yes,

there are delusions on both sides of this. So some of them were joking about it. I didn't get the five G zombie emergency alert, rip off, said another person. We'll be right back. The common man. They created common Core and dumb down our children. They created common past, track and control us. They're Commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary.

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I have gotten so much hate mail over this when I denied that the five G was going to be used that way or the anything to do with that, and I had to comment on it, not just to debunk these liars and grifters, but because we don't want to allow these people to We don't want this narrative to take hold, so the establishment can then dismiss any concerns that we have about the vaccines are about five G. That's the key issue,

and that's the reason why you have things like Steve Patchennik's sting and like mcinnernie's Special Forces operation in Germany and all the rest of this stuff that that's just a bunch of nonsense. Let's put out there to discredit any real concerns that people have about this stuff. On Rock Fan, Richard Williams, thank you very much, he said, the Kennedy assassination nine to eleven and Trump's vaccine. If your default is to still trust the government, ignorance cannot excuse

your stupidity. There I said it. And on Rock Fann, thank you, James. I appreciate the tip. Let's talk about something that I think is really tragic. It's a personal tragedy for one individual, it's a personal tragedy for who knows how many babies, and it's a real tragedy for us legally, constitutionally, in our liberties as well. The Supreme Court has declined to hear an appeal from David de Lighten in the Center for Medical Progress. If you remember years ago, I think it was sent here. I think

it was twenty fifteen. They did an undercover, you know, Project Veritas style thing. I say Project Veritas, but it's not just Project Veritas. As they pointed out their brief to try to get the Supreme Court to hear it, This is the same thing that was done by mainstream media ABC News twenty twenty investigation, and it was actually even an ABC News twenty twenty investigation of abortion clinics and so, but now things have change, haven't they.

You're not allowed to do that, not in radical vicious degenerated California run by people like Grabbing Nuisance and La La Harris and Javier Bessera, because it was those three who were involved at coming after them. They came in. You remember the clips, people say yeah, I want to get my Lamborghini. You know, well we can. You know, we need to have these body parts and we will pay you handsomely for this stuff. What can you get for us, Well, you tell us exactly what you want and when

you want it, we'll get it. And so as we talked about that, we pointed out that this is actually murder for hire. These are not dead babies that are sitting over here in a stack. And they go back and they get the organs. No, as we've talked about organ harvesting and china from prisoners and things like that, they take the organs out of living

bodies because they want them to have to be fresh. They start deteriorating right away, and as soon as the body dies, certain things begin to happen in the body, and so you want to take the organs out while the body is still alive. That's why they are so eager to get brain dead

patients organs, because you know their body is still functioning. But excuse me, in the case of these abortions, they're looking for babies who have at a specific level of maturity, and they would then make an appointment, have everything ready to transport the organs, and then they would induce labor to some extent. But they're not going to start ripping the baby be a part as they would in a typical abortion procedure. Four steps and all the rest of

the stuff. You're damaged the organs. They're also not going to inject saline that would damage the baby or poison it in any other way, you know, the saline salute or not, is it sent anyway. They have a solution that they burned the baby with and kill it. So that type of thing, that type of poisoning or physical damage, they can't do. So they have the baby born normally, extract the organs and kill the baby that way. That's the way it has to be done. And we've pointed this

out from the very beginning. And then as part of this trial, this ordeal of David de Leiden, over the years, as part of their discovery, they found that you had Francis Collins and Fauci at the NIH as well as the University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. I used to live in that area. But anyway, they found that they were buying these baby parts and they

had the price and everything else. And so what is the issue here, Well, the issue is that these are democrats and they will come after anybody that they don't like with law fare, and they'll get away with it, and they'll get away with it all the way to the Supreme Court. And so the High Court denied to even hear this. Following a twenty twenty two ruling by the ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals, which again is very is the most left leaning court in the country. The Fifth Circuit Court's the most

right leaning. In the most leftist leaning is the Ninth Circuit Court. They come up with lunatic stuff. But the Ninth Circuit Court upheld most of the damages that a lower court had awarded to planned Parenthood and its lawsuit against California

based Center for Medical Progress and its founder, David de Leiden. The pro life organization first made headlines in twenty fifteen when it published online secretly recorded conversations with Planned Parenthood doctors and staff haggling over the prices of baby body parts. As the joke goes, we've already established what Planned Parenthood is. We're just

haggling over the price. And it's twenty sixteen lawsuit then Planned Parenthood argued that the organization's actions constituted fraud, trespassing, breach of contract, and a violation of Rico Act. You see, they always bring that Rico Act in one of the people who weaponize that, and well, of course it was Biden who helped to weaponize that, But the person who used it a great deal is Rudy Giuliani is now being used against him. But Planned Parenthood, that

has been their favorite approach to come after pro life individuals and organizations. They came after Randy Alcorn years ago. Andy Alcorn christian pastor and an author, and he had gotten involved in pro life. He'd basically had not been involved in that, and there was a crisis pregnancy that he got to know the young mother and it changed his mind, and so he started showing up at the abortion clinics and things like that. They came after him planned parenthood and

won you know, type this face act type of thing. Got to stay away from the clinics, stay away from the people, all the rest of this, and they charged him with rico charges. They got I think it was an eight million dollar judgment against him. And Randy Alcorn has had a lot of very very big books. He's got a great book series on Heaven another one. I would also highly recommend The Treasure Principle because Jesus talks a great deal about money. Now where your heart is there, your treasure is

also That is an excellent book. Everybody should or listen to that book. So he was very and he also did a lot of fictional stories as well, very good writer fictionally. And so they said, well, we're going to get a lot of money from him. Eight million dollar judgment. Randy Alcorn resigned as pastor of the church and he continued to write and published books Christian books, but he lived on whatever the allowable minimum wage was for over

twenty years. They said, I will not pay planned Parenthood one penny, and so he just took all that his organization took all proceeds and millions and millions of dollars that he made from these books and gave it away pro life organizations, Christian organizations. So when you look at what Planned parent is doing here, it's not their first rodeo with Rico. But the issue is,

you know, what is the fraud? What fraud is involved here? Is it the fact that these people didn't want to pay up for the body organs or that they never actually placed in order for anybody parts. They never took delivery of any body parts. They just talked about, well, what would it, what would what would you commit this murder for the type of thing. And it's also interesting that Planned Parenthood did not sue them for defamation.

Why not wouldn't you think that that would be the very first charge their defamation. You're accusing us of trafficking and body parts. You're accusing us of murder for hire, murder of babies for hire. No, that wasn't an insult to them. As a matter of fact, one person said, you know, if you look at this, Tucker Kralson has been alleged to I don't know if it's actually been filed, that REYEPS would file a lawsuit against Tucker

Carlson because Tucker Cralson and others had accused him of being a FED. There has already been a lawsuit where you had a guy who I think he was a rapper. He was accused of being FED informant and so he and he was not, and so he sued and the judge said, he sued for defamation. And the judge said, what's wrong with being a federal informant? I think that's great. You haven't been defamed. Is this person is saying, well, you know that's I've been established that, you know, being

a federal informant is not not a dishonor to the federal court system. So we don't know how far Reyep's case against Tucker would go in that kind of situation. Well, you know, they don't think Planned Parenthood doesn't think that it's any big deal to be a baby killer for or higher either. So they didn't put defamation in there. They put fraud. You know, you said you're going to pay us to get these baby organs and you didn't,

you know, do that. So anyway, three years later, a jury sided with Planned Parenthood and also said that the pro life group had violated the Federal Wire Tap Act, although the appeals court later overturned that aspect of the verdict. It accounted for less than one hundred thousand of the two point four million dollars in damages plus thirteen million and attorneys fees it was initially awarded.

So they argued before the Ninth Circuit of Court that their journalistic methods were protected under the First Amendment, but that argument was unanimously rejected by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which said invoking journalism and the First Amendment does not shield individuals from liability for violation of laws applicable to all memory of society. No, it was an investigation, and this is done this way and has been

done by many organizations and should be done that way. And there had already been that doesn't mention it in this article here, but there had already been hearings in Congress saying that this is going on. And they said, because of those hearings, we conducted this investigation. What this is is a big attack on the First Amendment. It's a big attack on the free press. It's a big attack on truth, but it also lets these killers go free.

So the Center for Medical Progress actually reported pointed to a very similar undercover investigation that was conducted by Chris Wallace that was published on ABC News' twenty twenty quote using a fictitious name and fake critics. ABC journalists met with fetal tissue vendors in the abortion industry. Their three month investigation revealed a host of illegal and unethical practices in the industry related to the sale of tissue from aborted babies.

At the time, when it was not the focus of the investigation. Planned Parenthood praised ABC's report because they were investigating Planned Parenthood's competition. You see, this is how this is the only difference between what Center for Medical Progress and David de Lyden did and what ABC's twenty twenty and Chris Wallace did. ABC and Chris Wallace didn't want to come after Planned Parenthood. They went after

their competition. David Delyton went after Planned Parenthood. That is the only difference, the only difference. That's how politically connected they are. That the Democrats, even when it was against the law, was we're giving them millions of dollars of subsidies, they don't care. At the time, when it was not the focus of the investigation, Planned Parenthood praised ABC's report and condemned the

abortion provider who was its target. Gloria Felt, then, the president of Planned Parenthood, publicly stated, where there is wrongdoing, it should be prosecuted, and the people who are doing that kind of thing should be brought to justice. They see, they'll come out and do that when it's some individual like Kermit Gosnell or something, as long as they're not affiliated too Planned parented. But if you come after Planned Parenthood, understand you're coming after somebody who

is, you know, a made man in the mafia. If you will, you know they have somebody that is protected and under the protective care of the federal government because they have bought so many politicians. According to the Center for Medical Progress, mister Lyden modeled his investigation on abcs using nearly identical methods

and means. The group also charged that Planned Parenthood had euphemistically labeled its losses as infiltration and as security damages to circumvent the challenge challenges presented by the defamation case, which would include showing that the published speech in question was false, and yet they were not making it about defamation. It was about you defrauded

us and the rest of stuff. You know, you didn't pass the money you said you're going to do. The complaint contains a list of grievances that are inextricably intertwined with a Center for Medical Progress's decision to publish videos detailing the results of its investigation. Thus, even though Planned Parenthood failed to file a defamation claim, they said it sought substantial damages to reimburse it for expenses that

it voluntarily occurred to prevent similar investigative reports by others in the future. See this is a key part of this. Don't mess with Planned Parenthood, or are you going to be in court for eight years like David Delighten and you're going to come out with thirteen million dollar debt. Planned Parenthood has denied selling the body parts of aborted babies for profit, even though Discovery showed that one of their clients was actually Fauci and Francis Collins and the NIH and the University

of Pittsburgh. They said this was part of a smear campaign against Planned Parenthood, a smear campaign, and yet they didn't charge them for defamation. It's not defamation of character. This is definition of character. Planned parenthood, murders

for hire, it's just selling the baby parts. Was a new wrinkle that the public hadn't really understood yet, just like they didn't really understand the whole concept of so called comfort care, where if a baby survives or attempted murder at ripping them apart or bringing them to death with a solution, then they just stick them over on the side and let them die, like happened in

the pagan societies of the Roman Empire than others. The Supreme Court announced this rejection of the case on the very first day of his twenty twenty four term, which will run through June. Not a very good beginning, and as a matter of fact, there were other things that were not very good coming

out of the Supreme Court. Vox is very very happy about the fact that, as they see it, the Supreme Court had an uncharacteristic moment of sanity when they decided that a lawsuit that was trying to shut down the Consumer Protection and Financial Board or Financial Protection I get those you were those mixed up anyway, This thing that was a Frankenstein monster, that was a special creature of Elizabeth Warren that came out with a god Frank bill in twenty ten, was

supposed to fix us ever having another mortgage crisis. That type of what it did was it strangled to death hundreds hundreds of small and medium sized banks on an annual basis. I remember when Drudge was still doing conservative news, he would talk at the end of the year for several years running, after this thing was created and the new rules that it created, he would run an article talking about how many small and medium sized banks had been put out of

business by this Consumer Financial Protection Board rules. Of course, now he's gone to the other side. He's got articles like this from vox saying, imagine the Supreme Court of the United States spent an entire morning debating where the penguins are the primary cause of colon cancer. They think it's that absurd the question the constitutionality or what any of the bureaucracy of any of these bureaucratic organizations,

or their actions or their very existence, that's just insane. The federal government can do anything that it wants Fox essentially, so they said, that's more or less equality of the arguments of the former Trump Solicitor General Noel Francisco presented at the Court on Tuesday as part of a quizzical effort to commence the justices to declare an entire federal agency and constitutional. You who can imagine that?

I mean, that's like, you know, talking about if penguins are the primary cause of colon cancer, Any and every imaginable bureaucracy is of course constitutional. To the leftist press, like Fox, All three of the liberal justices took turns beating up Francisco as an exasperated justice, Sonya Soda Mayor telling Francisco at one point that She's trying to understand his argument, and I'm at a total loss. I just can't imagine a government He'll be limited by the constitution.

What is this guy talking about? Soh Sodo. Mayor appeared to be joined in her frustration by Kavanaugh and by Amy Cony Barrett, the agency that he was trying to get them to strike down, they said at the end of the argument, even Clarence Thomas appear to be fed up with the inability to articulate a coherent argument. Is this a bad lawyer? Well, he does have a very bad argument for getting rid of it. But this is a conclusion from box. They said, it seems very likely that the CFPB

being struck down will not happen. And that's a very good thing. They said. Listen to their logic, as the banking industry warned, and a brief to the justices, striking down the CFPB would mean striking down the agency that writes the rules telling them how to comply with federal laws governing mortgages. And without these rules in place, the entire US mortgage market could seize up. How did we exist? How did the banks operate before twenty ten?

Well, we didn't have such a and now it's that concentrated banking industry run by the few banks that are too big to fail and that have now used this very agency to strangle their competition. They said, oh, we got to have that. Of course they do. That's how they kill their smaller competitors. What an absurd argument, so that it would seize up. Well,

you know what's effectively seized up right now is the housing market. Interest rates have gotten so high and prices have continued to climb because there is a shortage of housing and uh the uh, and people are afraid to because people are afraid to renegotiate their loans. They've got their their they're locked into a lower mortgage rate, so they don't want to put their house on the market and take you know, they can't afford a new loan on a new house.

And so because of all that, the market is frozen up. It's frozen up by the actions of the federal government were actually more effectively the actions of the Reserve, which is not the federal government. But a decision against the CFPB, they said, in other words, could usher in the kind of economic ruin that has not been seen in the United States. Sin it's a great depression, that's right, would have dogs and cats living together.

It would be the apocalypse, even the zombie apocalypse. No, it's Fox that is unhinged here. So his argument, which is not a good argument, was not where's your authority for this to exist in the first place. This argument was, well, they were created with perpetual funding. And so the judges, even Clarence Thomas, are scratching their heads and saying, well, wait a minute, we got all these entitlement programs that are out there

that are created with perpetual funding. What is the difference between them, well, but it's different. I'm not saying they're going to get rid of any the welfare programs or Medicare, Medicaid, so security of that, you know, this is but this is different because it's got perpetual funding and you know somehow, And that's what none of them could get their head around, because

it's a nonsense argument. And he never made the case that, hey, you know, we have the federal government doesn't possess any powers that have not been expressly given to it. Where is the authority for them to do this type of thing, because that would affect pretty much everything the government does, including the welfare programs. But they want to try to carve that out somehow.

They can't make an intellectual argument for that. I think clearly when you look at things like social security, people have been lied to all their life. I remember about thirty years ago there was a poll. They asked people, how many of you believe you're going to get your social security versus how many people believe that there were UFOs and aliens and that type of thing. And there are a lot more people believed in UFOs and aliens even thirty years

ago, and now that they're pushing that. That's got inter seeing the efforts of the Biden administration against Social Security, they're actually the ones trying to strangle it. But again, and you know, when you look at what the government is doing, I think you need to transition out of these things that people have been promised and planned around for their entire lifetime. There needs to be a reasonable transition for these things. But you need to stop the programs

that are wrong. But more than that, it's just one agency after the other that is strangling our economy, that's strangling our liberty and the constitution. But they don't like the Constitution. No. For the longest time we've had a difference of opinion, the majority opinion has been that the words don't really

mean anything. Right. This is the living constitution viewpoint. And then there are the people who are originalists or textualists or whatever who say we have to go with what the text actually says and in its original meaning, it means what it says. And we understand what when we talk about a militia, we understand that that was the yeomanry of people men sixteen to sixty and at the time, and that was and if we understand that we understand the reasoning

behind it, but whether or not you understand what the militia is. Those words shall not infringe the rights the right of the people. That kind of is non negotiable, and it should be. And so the words mean something. But then you have the people say, well, it's a living document, and you know, I don't think that we need to be governed by these things that are written down before. Well, if you don't do that, then you have total chaos because now everything is subjective. There is no

objective standard. We have an objective standard. If you don't like what that objective standard says, there's a process for changing and amending the constitution, but you don't just get to write it away. But now they've got a third way, because now we're getting so far removed from reality. They're talking about crystal ball constitutionalism, if you will. And this is to make rulings, and this is being pushed by Washington University Law Review. They call it judicial

moral prophecy. That's their claim. They're pushing this. They need to be able to think about how these things are going to be perceived in the future. And so these people not only see themselves as lawgivers, these judges. Judges are never to be lawgivers, but they not only see themselves not only as lawgivers, but as profits who can foresee the future and can take this. You know, we've gone so far away from the original text and something

that is grounded an objective reality. This is kind of like the Furries version of courts here, you know, with all the transgender stuffing of people dressing up like furries. This is the equivalent of that courts should contemplate and heed the moral judgments of coming generations. Total nonsense. But they say doing so is not an arbitrary projection of personal fancy. It is, but they say

it's a corollaria of the shared practice of retrospective condemnation. Tenets of cultural morality often achieve judicial recognition, and those truisms inevitably shape how courts perceive their interpretive responsibilities. This is kind of academic yeah, pablem. That is the basis of the chaos and confusion that we see in so many sectors of our society. Despite the formalizing pressures of modern legal discourse, a counter trend has begun

to emerge, that of judicial moral prophecy. It's not even philosophy. You shouldn't be injecting your philosophy into the law. But now they're going to inject their prophecies into the law. Factors that will ultimately eclipse Logical precision can and should inform conceptions of judicial duty in the pre isn't. In other words, we want to move away from precision. We want to move away from logic.

We want to move away from objective truth. If originalism and textualism are focused on, the text has written in the past, as the commentator on this, and this is actually coming from a Second Amendment site bearing arms dot com. If originalism and textualism are focused on the text is written in the

past and living in constitutionalism favors in the present vagaries and vicissitudes. Judicial moral prophecy seeks to divine an unknowable, unpredictable future and turns the judiciary into psychics and soothsayers. What has been running the mcguffins right with their models and their projections. Oh, we see a pandemic is coming. It's coming. I

can just see it. I can see it in my computer models. We don't have anybody that's died yet of me this stuff, but you know, we need to lock down the country in March of twenty twenty, even though nobody's died and we don't have anything that could even be called We don't have a pretended body count in China or Italy or any place like that where they said this is ore, he started. There was no body count that would support an epidemic there, but a worldwide pandemic. They said they could just

see it. And so we had the psychics and the soothsayers. But you know, instead of looking at goat and trails or you know, some kind of Ouiji boards or tarot cards, they had computers and so that made it all believable to idiots zombies, and the same thing has been going on for decades with the climate stuff. Again, instead of goat and trails, they've got computer models that are probably as worthless as maybe even more worthless, because

at least people can see through that scam. But you know, that's where we are right now, that's where they are advocating for the judiciary to go. Before we take a quick break here on rock Finn angry Tiger, thank you for the tip, and thank you for the tip showing us what was that little clip? He says, yes, David, is to marginalize all of our information and group us together with the grifters. That's right, Yeah, that is That's why the CIA does this stuff. That's why I call

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you. I saw a babelin b article a few days ago that Congress signed up for Ukraine Plus like Disney Plus, for only forty billion dollars a month, So I consider this subscription to be much much more affordable. Well, yeah it is. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Let's take a look at the new hero of the left in the mainstream media in the Supreme Court, and that is Justice Kavanaugh. This guy, if you remember, they vilified him

like a me too monster. Remember how they did that? And now he's their new hero because this Trump appointee has done all everything that they love, with the exception of the Dobbs decision that overturned Rob Wade. This is the headline from the La Times. Justice Kavanaugh taps the brakes on the Supreme Court's sharp move to the right. Now, he's always been a leftist, you know, guy coming from the usual place. It seems like they get most

of their Supreme Court appointee from one Jesuit university, George Washington University. He's always been a leftist. He is just like Roberts, and they actually point that out, you know that he's even more of a swing vote. He used to clerk for Kennedy, who became a pretty hardcore leftist as well. He was. I think it was Reagan who put him in, if I remember correctly. He's talking about it here. I had not looked that up,

but I think, you know, he had. They had expectations of him being conservative for a libertarian, but he had unhinged from reality decisions and unhinged from liberty decision totally unhinged from the Constitution and from liberty and Kavanaugh is the same way. So he's now the new hero to the leftist establishment, they said, Stotch, Conservatives of the LA time may have reason to worry

about Kevanaugh. We do. He voted most often with Roberts, and he voted more often with the courts three liberal justices than he did with Thomas, the most conservative. They said, Kevanaugh cast a deciding fifth vote to poll the Biden administration's plan to require a COVID nineteen vaccine. That basically tells you all you need to know about this guy. That is the dividing line. If you can force somebody to inject an experimental thing into their body as a

condition of living their life, that's how does he come help? Could you call anybody like that conservative or libertarian? And of course the new absurdity is that Biden is now claiming that he didn't have any mandates. Yeah, well, what a bunch of liars these people are. You know, just like Fauci, I didn't tell nobody to do nothing. I didn't make nobody do nothing. I made some you know, recommendations. You know, It's kind of like when the mafia would show up at your small vegetable shop. In

Brooklyn. I'd suggest that you pay somebody for some protection. Oh, we've never been robbed here, beating up. You know, this is old school New York. No, you know, something could happen to you, you know, like for me, protection from me. And that's what faut You was selling. It was a protection racket, which government always is. But it had some real clear blackmail involved there for the corporations. If they did not run this stuff through, you know, there's going to be carrots and

sticks, financial carrots and sticks. And that's why I said, you know, Trump was down with that. He had already said in twenty nineteen, Hey, they got to get the shots. It's going around about measles and that type of thing. We're not going to listen to any parents objections about this. We don't care what any medical objections are about this. We don't care about any religious objections. Don't care if this is a private religious school.

You're going to get that measles shot, said Trump. So it was in these people just play this game. As I said before, this is like the Nuremberg excuse, but upside down. You know, in Nuremberg people said that's just following the autis there's autis from above. Well, these people are saying I didn't give nobody, not what is any mandates? Well they did, and you had a majority of the Supreme Court said they could.

And now even after that, even after went all the way to the court, they argued that they could force people to get it, and Kavanaugh signed on with those people. And now Biden says, we didn't order anybody, you know, So what was that case about? What a bunch of liars? And this was again, you know, the the financial extortion, blackmail millions of workers in hospitals and nursing homes that had to get it or those

high hospitals would have their Medicare and Medicaid funds turned off. And so here's the for varication at the heart of Kavanaugh's decision. Kavanaugh said, well, the hospitals didn't object to this requirement, Yeah, because they're going to get the money. They're being bribed for this or blackmailed for this. The rules were challenged by sixteen Republican state attorney generals who did it on behalf of the medical staff that were going to be used as guinea pigs. Kavanaugh didn't care.

The majority of the Supreme Court didn't care and a five to four decision, and he was a swing vote on that. Four other conservatives, including Trump, Gorsch, and Amy Coney Barrett. Trump appointed justices Neil Gorsich and Amy Coney Barrett that would have been the other two would have been Clarence Thomas and Alito dissent to and said that hospital workers should not be required to undergo what Alito called an irreversible medical treatment quote unquote. And yet Roberts and Cavanaugh

joined with a quote unquote liberal branch. They are the liberal branch of the Supreme Court. And I don't mean liberal in terms of being focused on liberty or freedom, which is how they stole that term. I mean authoritarian anti constitutionalists. Twice, Kavanaugh played a key role in upholding Biden's immigration policies against

lawsuits against lawsuits brought by Texas Republicans. As a matter of fact, remember also going back to this, they don't mention it in the La Times thing, but I think it was one of the key issues is that you had Trump. Under Trump, the CDC said we're going to tell people that you can't evict anybody because now we've done this novel approach of locking people. Never before in the history of America or the world have we done this type of

thing. But we're going to do this now. And so now that we locked everybody down and we told them that they can't work and we put them on universal basic income, you can't throw people out of their homes and you can't eject them for non payment of rent. Okay, you can't e victim. And so that happened under Trump. It was extended multiple times under Trump. Trump had no problem with that because he was pushing that universal basic income.

You'll have nothing and you'll be happy with what we give you. And then it continued to be extended under Biden for quite some time. And so he had several lawsuits. They said CDC doesn't have the authority to come in

and do something like that. That's a private contract. How in the world can you imagine that the CDC has that kind of authority, And they were winning court decision after court decision, and of course is a very clear issue if you look at the law, and when it got to the Supreme Court, you had Justices Kavanaugh and Roberts again making a five to four majority saying

no, they they don't have the authority. They don't have the authority, but they promised that they're going to stop soon, by the end of the month. So I'm not going to take that away from them. Well, why wouldn't you. They're only going to do it for another month or so, so we'll let them. And then on another month or so happened and they didn't do it. The case came back up, and then Kavanaugh and

Roberts says, all right, you never had this authority. You said you're going to stop it, and so we didn't want to clip your wings here, you know, but now that you're continuing with this thing, we're going to say you can't do it. That's the kind of judges that Roberts and Kavanaugh are. I think they're more contemptible, quite frankly, than even the three leftists. They're just so dishonest. They have the same values as a leftists, but they lie to you about it. This is why I'm so

angry at Trump. I see a trader as being far worse than the enemy soldier who flies his flag and wears his uniform. And these people are traders. And Trump is a trader as well, because he does the same thing stabs you in the back, pretends to be one thing when he's another thing. As I've said many times, you treat prisoners of ward very differently than

you treat spies in your midst don't you. The immigration law that he's affords a substantial discretion to the executive he said, and a five four ruling in Biden versus Texas, and he says in different presidents may exercise it differently. Well, I think that they treat different presidents very differently at the Supreme Court, don't they. Because with Biden, they let him do whatever he wants to do. With Obama, they let DACA go through. Obama's administration doesn't

have to enforce the law. They can declare they're not going to deport anybody, they're going to defer action on childhood arrivals. And then when Trump comes along, you know again he didn't want to do it. He kicked it over to the Supreme Court because he clearly has the authority to overrule an Obama administration executive order. He's now the executive but he kicked it to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said, no, you can't do anything about

that now. In this one when it comes up to Biden, the Supreme Court says five to four, No, the President can do whatever he wants to with immigration. It's not about the law, it's about whether they agree with that policy or not. And so la times he may become the Supreme Court swing vote. Yeah, lots of cheering in the mainstream media over this. And we know already what has happened with him and also with the Supreme Court when they talked about shutting down churches and lockdowns. Yeah, you can

shut down the churches, but you can't shut down the casinos. What and so you had church that lost that court decision went to a casino and held their church service in the casino to make up point. It's just insanity. And so now the pronoun debate is likely to come up to the Supreme Court, says Politico. So is the Supreme Court now going to tell us what to say? Know, there's really more about whether or not other people are

going to be allowed to dictate what we can say. And it's really fundamentally about parental rights. About parental rights, This article from Politico was once again a pitch battle in America's culture wars is making its way to the US Supreme Court in this round, which whether you're talking about marriage, you're talking about when life begins, and all the rest of this stuff, these are not

issues for the Supreme Court in this round. The emerging question is whether public school children have a right to choose names and pronouns affirming their gender, their identity, or where their parents' rights to manage the upbringing of their children overrides it. Well, you know, it's kind of inherent in the way we always refer to them as public school children. You read that phrase there from Politico, and most people just kind of skip through that and what does that

really mean? What they really mean by it, And they've been very explicit about it and passed court decisions. Public school children are children that the parents have abandoned to the state. And previous court decisions they said, once you bring your child to the public school and drop them off at the steps, you have abandoned your child to the care of the school, and we will do whatever we wish to them. We will talk to them about any kind

of sex that we wish. You know, when that was first done, that was an eight year old girl. The father did not want her to be involved in in a sexual class where they were just explaining heterosexual sex. But he thought she was too it was too early for her to have that kind of detail, so he wanted her out of that class. They said no, so he went in to take her out of the class. They

arrested him for trespassing. They said, you know, you drop your kid off, you've abandoned them to the state, and we will operate in place of the parents and local parentice and so all this stuff about printal rights. People need to start understanding that in the view of the government, you have surrendered your rights when you surrender your child. They belonged to the state at least for that majority of the day. And the pronouns that we see here

don't really matter. The pronouns are just a proxy of who has power and who will dominate and who will raise the children. Will they be raised by the parents or by the public school. That's the real issue, and people, even all of this fighting of the school boards and all the rest of

stuff is a distraction from that fundamental issue. Parents sued over these gender issues here in Politico says they alleged that the defendants violated three different rights derived from the Fourteenth Amendment one their fundamental parental rights to direct the education and upbringing of their children. Two their fundamental right to direct medical and mental health decision making for their children, and three their fundamental right to familial privacy and family integrity.

Okay, now, I don't know if that was in their brief saying these rights were given to us by the fourteenth Amendment the Constitution, and the government does not give us rights. If they give us rights, they're not rights, they're privileges. Rights come based on our humanity. They are God given and therefore inalien government is told in these amendments to respect those rights.

There should be a printal rights Amendment to the Constitution, not to grant those rights, but to tell them that they need to respect those rights, just like they need to respect our free speech and our ability to protect ourselves with firearms and that type of thing. But all of that is true except for the fact that it comes from the fourteenth Amendment. Politico says, none of these rights are expressed expressly identified in the Constitution. They don't have to be

right. We have the ninth and tenth Amendment, which says, you know, you don't have these powers federal government or any government. Unless this has been given to you by the people, by the states, or whatever. You cannot assume these powers and the idea that get to direct the upbringing of their children, that they get to direct medical and mental health decision making,

and that the family is an important institution. This is not something that we have to be told from the right or privilege that we have to be granted by the government. The government needs to be told this in a very explicit way. Leave these things along. The children do not belong to you. This is all this that takes a village to raise a kid's stuff, all this Melissa Harris Perry stuff from MSNBC. We've got to get over this idea

that the children belong to you. Well, you better understand where these people are coming from and where Politico is coming from. They said, all these rights stem from the same aspect of the Fourteenth Amendment that produced the original decision in Roe v. Wade, that of substitive due process. That is total bs. They're trying to tell you that Roe v. Wade gave us printal rights. This is such a perversion and an inversion of the concept of rights.

It's a perversion and an inversion of what the Constitution is all about, and what the Bill of Rights is all about, and what parenting is all about. But that's where these people are coming from, and that's where they stand, and they are going to stand on that and they're going to try to enforce that. But I think it's very important to understand where these people are coming from. On Rockfinn Duke Nukem, thank you very much for the tip. He says, I enjoy your show, Missley, especially when we

talk about religion and God. Well, thank you. It's very divisive issue certainly here we talk about religion and politics. Nothing controversial, right though I generally abide with the notions of peace, faith and love for others. You can see how the Bible is used as yet another tool used to fracture humanity us versus them. The violence justified by biblical mandate throughout history makes me blush. When you come off as an apologist for this, well, let me

be an apologist for that. And I'm not apologizing for any of it. I'm just explaining it. That's what an apologist is. You know, when you look at a situation, I think the one that comes up most often is you know, as God tells the Israelites to go in and take the land from the Cannites, he said, kill everybody, take the babies, and bash their heads against the rocks. Completely eradicate that civilization. And we should ask why that hasn't happened to us, and why God was saying to

do that to them. It was because if you go back and you look at history and you look at the context of this and later on, you see that in the Old Testament when he says stay away from these people. Their culture is a disease, and it was a disease and it pulled the people of Israel into it. And rather than multiplying and you know, taking the land and that type of thing, instead what they did was intermarried with this culture. They adopted it. You even had kings of Israel who were

pass seeing their children through the fire. It was a religious right they had. That. The two big things that were you know that you see coming back over and over again are these ashtroth polls, you know, the goddess

a Shira or astronot, you know, various variations of that. That was a free sex celebration, right, big festival all around, free sects everybody right, and then you would a few months later you would have this other festival that would be where you could sacrifice your children to Molik for prosperity, murder your child. Now we know from archaeological digs, we know that this was rampant throughout the Canaanite area, Palestine area, and down into northern Africa,

the area that would later become Carthage. They had these big I think it's called Pofits where they had massive graveyard of bones of children, and God had you know that that is something that you know. They didn't need a direct revelation from God. They didn't need law from Moses or anybody else to tell them that they needed to. Everybody knows that, you know, there

is a natural law that everybody knows. You don't kill other people, you don't steal stuff from them, but especially you know, you don't kill your children. That is so incredibly unnatural. And so they were justified. God was justified in terms of telling them to execute judgment. And over and over again in the Bible we see tremendous hardship even on his own people Israel.

When they rebelled, he brought in other nations to judge them. Unbelievably harsh things that happened with the Babylonians and the Assyrians, and even in many cases God would come back to them with a prophet said, you know, well, I pulled in these nations. I moved them to come against you as a punishment. They did so much more. I'm going to punish them now for their excesses. But we should look at the Bible and we should tremble

and what happened in Sodom and Gomoor and the judgment that they suffered. What happened to the people in the Canaanites who were doing this child sacrifice, and it continued on even after Israel went into that area and so forth during the Roman Empire and Carthage, where you had Hannibal who was always fighting the Roman Empire, and you had you know, he's the one who crossed the Alps with the elephants and things like that, but he was a big threat to

them, and perhaps because of that, but I think it was because God was moving them to judge Carthage, because Carthage was involved in these same child ritual child sacrifices and these sexual orgy cult followed up by child sacrifice cult,

and they go hand in hand. And there was one Roman senator, I think it was Kato, I can't remember Kato, the elder or younger anyway, who ended every one of his speeches in the Roman Senate they'd say, oh, and one more thing, Carthage must be destroyed, and they did destroy it. God will execute judgment on people. So the question, when we look at this and the harshness, the question should not be why were these people judged harshly? The question should be why has he been so merciful

to us to delay this judgment? To us, it's God's mercy and long suffering. He has shown us part this is justified punishment to these people. He has shown that to us, that that is what will happen to us. And yet he has, in his mercy, both shown us what is right, shown us the consequences of what is wrong, and given us time to do the right thing and turn towards him, both as individuals and as a culture. It may be too late for our culture, it's not too

late for any of us as individuals. And all of this is those types of concerns that people have for that are again the types of concerns that people have, would God actually throws somebody in hell? He makes it very clear, and if you believe the Bible, that's very clear. People reject that because they don't like that that's what the Bible says. But the key is

that all of us have been given extended time. We've all been given an offer of God's free grace and mercy and forgiveness and the offer of a new beginning. And every day that we thumb our nose at it is another day that we're building up, storing up wrath to come. Whether it's society or whether it's us as individuals. But anyway, that's my perceptive the way I see it. On Rock Fan, Dougalog, thank you very much for the

tip. On Rumble Rabid Roach, thank you for the tip, he says, I was happy to suffer through a class with my worst high school group because I knew i'd follow it up with David Knight. Well, thank you, thank you. Here's another piece of history here. You still have Jack Phillips, the guy who was the masterpiece of bakery. And if you remember, you know this is a bakery. He says, Well, I got pre made goods and I don't discriminate. I selled anybody who comes in here.

But if you come here and you tell me that you want a particular cake to celebrate your homosexual marriage, then I'm not going to do it because you're only doing that because you want to rub my nose in this. Because you know I'm a Christian. He's playing Christian music, I think in the bakery. I'm not sure about that, but I think I remember that. But you know, you know that I'm a Christian. It's like going into a Jewish deli and saying, you know, I want you to, you

know, spell out I love Hitler or whatever. You know. It just that they were targeting his beliefs and telling him that he had to create that. So he fought that in Colorado and as a Colorado state government that was coming after him. The Colorado Supreme Court was also involved in it, but

it got overturned at the US Supreme Court. And on the day that it was overturned in the US Supreme Court, you had one of the local Colorado lawyers who was an LGBT radical came in and he was now a trainee, and he said, I want you to make a cake to celebrate the anniversary of my transition. I guess I'd be a transversary cake. So he demanded that, and he says, no, I'm not going to do that, and so that began a new round, and that began a new round of

the government in California and Colorado coming after him. And again it's the same principle and they really don't care. And so now he's fighting them again for years. And this is another case that is going to be heard by the Supreme Court. Presumably, the state, even though it had just been slapped down, launched an almost identical lawsuit against another Christian owner of a digital corporation, three h three Creative, and that was also shut down by the Supreme

Court. But again, they're coming after this guy for the second time after there's already been a Supreme Court ruling about him and about these practices specifically there. I mean, it's no difference. It's kind of like this judge in the Trump case I played yesterday and goes, well, okay, there's no two identical cases. You know, maybe this guy was wearing a red shirt

on that day instead of a blue shirt. So I guess maybe that's the difference in this was that when this guy came in and demanded that he do that cake, maybe on that day he was wearing a green shirt instead of a red one or something. No, the principal still the saying is still the same. And so they're trying to get the Supreme Court without having to go through all the legal process to shut this down. Tell the Colorado State

persecutors to just stop this because this is something that should affect everybody. Whether or not you agree with this. You should not be compelled to do things that violate your religious beliefs. That was what Thomas Jefferson said. You know, the thing that he was most proud of was not the Declaration of Independence, but his Document for Religious Liberty in the State of Virginia. That's what

he wanted to be recognized for. He said, is that it is abhorrent to compel people to pay for and to engage in beliefs and to do things that they don't agree with. So this is a fundamental violation of that for everybody. And I used to, as I said, he used to go to Colonial Williamsburg all the time. There's a guy that who was very good is Thomas Jefferson. He's no longer there now looked him up the other day he is now at Monticello, and as an older Jefferson, because he's quite

a bit older now. But it was back in the nineties when he was doing Jefferson and he would be brought down to Raleigh, close to where we lived, and there would be think tanks that would have invite him in, and so I would go there I and I engaged him in those meetings, and I engaged in at Williamsburg. I'm sure that he was tired of hearing the question, but you know, I said, well, you know, you said that it was wrong to compel somebody to fund a religion that they

didn't believe him. That's what establishment of religion really is. You know, they would require people all these different states had different state religions, and the First Amendment came up because they didn't want there to be an established federal state religion and that would be imposed on everybody else because you know, in Rhode Island it was a Baptist, In Maryland, it was the Catholics, and it was kind of the Congregationalists in most of New England and things like that,

and so they didn't want to give up their state churches. They're established state churches, and those established state churches would in many cases require you to attend that church. But in other cases they said, well, you don't have to attend it, but he's still got to pay for it, still got to pay for it. And so I would tell the guy who is a Jefferson and actor, I said, so, I agree with that principle,

but you know, education is very fundamentally about religion. So isn't it wrong to compel people to continue to fund beliefs that are abhorrant to you, even if you're you and your children are not compelled to attend. It is abhorrent to me to fund this gender grooming that is going on, this Marxism, this hatred for our country, this abuse of children, that is abhorrent

to me. To fund that, it violates everything in my conscience, you know, my idea of government, my idea civility of the family, of the constitution, violates my religion. To fund that. But anyway, that's where we are. So and we had this discussion. I remember when it was going on and Gary Johnson was running for president as a Libertarian, and he made the ridiculous analogy he said, yes, you know, this guy, Phillips should be forced to make this cake. Now, what has happened

to the Libertarian Party? If they're going to make this, they're going to have this guy be their candidate who makes this argument. And the absurdity of what he had to say was he said, well, you just think about this. Think about if an electric company could turn off your electricity because you're gay and they don't like that. It's like, this is not at all. Do you realize you're talking about electric utilities. You're talking about a company

that's been given a monopoly. This guy does not have a monopoly of bakeries. There's any number of bakeries that they could have gone to. They chose to go to him because they wanted to up his nose in the cake. I said, a better analogy would be to look at the censorship that's being done on social media, which is a de facto monopoly of the public square, or a doopoly or oligarchy, if you will. You have a few

companies that are enforcing this stuff. Even before we had all the receipts to show that it was coming from government, we knew it was coming from government. But I said, if you want an analogy, Gary Johnson, then the analogy would be the phone company when the phone company was mob Bell and or AT and T or whatever, and they had a monopoly on the phones, and you got you know, the operator, you know, one ring eating from what was her name? Any of you wouldn't know. It was

very old. But she's listening in on the phone and she doesn't like what you say. She doesn't like you, so the monopoly phone company turns off your phone service. I said, that's the analogy. Want to bring an anopoly thing in there to it. It's not an individual small baker who is

being who's being targeted. But this latest lawsuit about the transiversary cake was this lawyer came back who had been fighting him, you know and opposing him publicly, came in on the day that he woned the Supreme Court and said, I'm starting a new case against you if you won't make my transiversary cake. So that is where we are, and that is something that should affect everybody. No Americans should be compelled to express or to do what they don't believe.

And of course it's surprising that the Supreme Court got that right because they were standing behind the fact that people could be compelled to do what they don't believe when it comes to the public health and the jabs and all the rest of this stuff. We'll be right back making sense. Comment again, you're listening to the David Knight Show. Yeah, follow up comment. Thank you,

rabid roache. She says, Uh, bake a cake to celebrate the fact that I chopped off my genitals and set myself up for a life of misery. You big it? Yeah, that's un it is. It is a sad situation, and uh it just the saddest thing about it. I mean, you know, we see a lot of adults who regret this. And I remember when all this stuff began, we didn't hear anything about this,

and till about fifteen, twenty, fifteen, sixteen or whatever. Back in twenty fourteen, Michael Finn was taking the lead with that with an adult Navy seal who had done that, and he really regrets it, and he says, you know, I was set up by these people. And he says, if I can be set up as an adult, we need to protect these kids. And we've heard this over and over again from adults who were set up for this stuff. How easy is it to groom children.

It's just reprehensible what is being done. What is being done by the medical community and the psychological community, a psychologist, these people have been sources of misery and suffering for so many people in so many different ways, and now they're focused like a laser beam on the kids. That's what's so reprehensible about it. Anyway, this while we're waiting for Tony to come on. This is a short story, and it is one of the funniest things I think

I've seen quite some time. Sam bankman Fried, and there has been a very detailed biography that has come out just recently by the guy who wrote the book about the Big Short, very good book about the Big Shorts. I don't know about SBF, but this detail. He evidently has a dog that is trained to kill, but who doesn't. But Sam bankman Fried doesn't know

the activation word. He's like lost the password for the dog. It's like all these stories about Joe Biden. You know, We're getting this constant stream of people that the dog has attacked as Secret Service agents and now has attacked

somebody who is just there in the garden. But I guess it's he's the family dog, but in this particular one, this story is that and again the book Is Going Infinite by Michael lewis filled with strange anecdotes about this so called crypto hero or maybe he's a heel, or maybe he's an inside plant

to discredit crypto in general. At the end of the book, the writer includes what may be an allegory for the entire debacle and aside about his parents getting a German shepherd that is trained to kill if it hears a German language command that they learned but that their son failed to memorize. He doesn't know the password for his dog. He better not have any German friends, I guess I gotta say that. So when Sam was in a room with a

dog, it always felt as if an accident was waiting to happen. He wrote, it would have been very Sam Bankman fried to have been eaten by his own guard dog. Well, the whole story sounds like a potential metaphor. The existence of a canine killer named Sandor was well documented at the beginning of twenty twenty three, when the bankman Friedes welcomed the pup into their Palo

Alto home while their son was on house arrest. As Forbes reported at the time, Sandor was indeed trained to attack with a secret word quote unquote and puck. The publication The UK revealed that SBF's parents got the dog for him as an unsolicited gift. Maybe they've got a death wish for their son up for his reckoning. He had just shown up one day, so you know when when you look at this and then we'll get back to SBF later in the show. Probably, But isn't that the most amazing thing. You got

to attack dog trained to kill. But this dufist doesn't bother to learn the pass where the kill word, setting himself up for this stuff. So we're gonna take a quick break and we're going to be right back with Tony or armand stay with us, hm hm Joy listening to the David Night Show. All right, welcome back and joining us now? Is Tony Ardiman Why Wolf Gold? Of course he's kindly set up David Knight dot gold to direct you there and to let him know that you're coming from this program. Good to

have you, Tony, Welcome, good to see you, David. Thanks for having me. I think SPF's dog. Maybe the password is audit perhaps he lost he lost the keys to his own dog, like people lose their keys to their bitcoin wall, you know, isn't that funny? That is the how many people we seen lost the keys to something that is worth millions of dollars and they can't find it anywhere, or they threw away the disk drive that had all the stuff, you know, that that type of thing.

And of course this is a real world consequence. Audit sounds kind of German, doesn't it. Or maybe it's just the association with the I R S and uh, these these neo Nazis or whatever that that's a double N word. I guess, the neo Nazis. But I guess that's why I associate it with something German. I don't know, but yeah, tell us what what is on your mind? You as we were talking in the break, you said there's a lot of banks that have been put on a death

watch. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah. I was looking at a tweet from Robert Kiyosaki from back on the first of October and I wanted to read it. I was not to retweet it on the wisewolf Gold Twitter account, but I was going over this morning. It says the FDIC has over seven hundred and twenty five US banks on a death watch list. Says, what does that mean? It means America does not need enemies. America has bankers, our criminal bankers, start with Jerome Powell, the Fed,

Janet Yelling of the Treasury, and Jamie demon of our banks. God help us. USA does not need criminals. We hire them as our bankers. So said Robert Kiyosaki on his Twitter account. Well that's so true. This is I think the biggest story of our time, David, is going to be the collapse of this financial system, this fake financial system that really has accelerated since nineteen seventy one, since Richard Nixon took us off the gold

standard. And I wanted to talk with you a little bit today about you know, you opened up you're talking about Sam Bankman Fry. But the crypto. There's been so much movement there and so many things going on with bitcoin and crypto, and it's global. We see Bank of America has launched its own crypto. We've talked about CBDC. All of that. The private sector

and the decentralized market is a response to the collapsing FIAT system. This is all going on at the same time, and I mean we're watching gold, watching central banks buying gold at record pace. Shift Gold put out an article today on zero Hedge. So there's there's so much happening all at once, you know, and the powers that be are trying to capture that momentum by creating CBDC. I honestly, David, I'm watching this and I'm just I'm

wondering if they can. I wonder if it's gotten out of the control at this point. Yeah, yeah, who knows. It is amazing how many different times I have seen these articles that we've talked about this, you know, before you and I about Costco selling gold and being sold out everything. You know, this is not about central banks collecting gold anymore. This is about the public starting to realize what's going on here. And they've got a

new inflation floor, they're saying them. This is a Mark Spiegel of Standfull Capital says, the new inflation floor is going to be three to four percent. They're not even trying to get back to the magic standard has always been, let's get inflation down to two percent. You know, they want to inflate. They want to have inflation but they don't want it to be any

higher than two percent. Now they've just doubled that goal, which tells you that there's something else going on. And of course you're seeing people going through Costco and other places showing snapshots that they took a few months ago or a year ago of what prices are and how things are not up just a few percent, there may be a double or triple what they were. Well, the the UN put out a notice asking governments to stop the two percent goal

of inflation because it's hurting the economies by not being more inflationary. And wait a minute, I thought this was supposed to be transitory. I thought that's what Jerome Palle said. This was all transitory, and Janet Yellen's used that word transitory, that this wasn't going to be an issue after they printed eighty percent of all the dollars that ever created. Everything about the financial markets worldwide is FIAT. It's fake, it's built into the system, and it's unsustainable.

I mean, we're talking about trillions upon trillions upon trillions. None of this is going to be able to be reeled in. And as we start to see in the market in the US, it's schizophrenic. As we talked about every week on your show, we're watching the price of gold go down. At the same time, it's a lot of the traders are saying, well, we're fearful of the future. Why aren't you buying gold? But they're saying, well, it's because the Fed has raised rates, and of

course they have raised rates faster than any time in history. We don't have interest rates to the teams yet, but they're believing that. And that's why I think you're seeing the numbers in precious metals. They're believing in the supremacist of king dollar. I think that's very short sighted. I don't think they understand what has happened to the system itself is in decline, and I think

that's what we're watching here. Yeah, you know, it's We went back and rewatched recently The Big Short and it was that same author who was doing the biography of SBF and the common thing. As I was looking at it at this time, I was thinking, you know, they came up with these financial derivatives that they had securitized mortgages and everything. We just mix it all together, put it in a blender, and you know, you get

this whole slush slush fund thing essentially. But you know, they've always got a different angle and everybody always thinks that it's something that is different, and yet there is a fundamental similarity there. You know, tistory doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, and this financial history rhymes. They come up with these new schemes that are out there, but the fundamental thing is you got to look at it these is this real or not? And you've got to

get back to what is real. And that was the thing about the two characters, the central characters in his book. There's a couple of them that saw that, you know, this whole securitized mortgage thing was going to go really bad and that it was not real at all, and they saw that this was, you know, whatever you make the financial instrument. The thing that remains is that it is some way for them to remove you from reality. And you've got to get back to something that is sound and that is

real. And I think there's nothing that's more sound and more real than physical gold. That's the key thing. And you know you can't when you try to evaluate all these different games and tricks that they play, They're always going to have a different game and different tricks, but again your question always has to be is this something that is solid and is it real? Yeah, the term hard money it comes from the actual hardness of the asset and how

hard it is to produce. Every time when you talk about the subprime mortgage market or just credit itself after nineteen seventy one, every time that you create a loan, when you create a mortgage, that's new currency that's being created into the system. So if you have this bonanza, this this market that's looking at something like the mid two thousands where they're you have low interest rates and the government is creating the environment to say no, you have to write

these loans, and you can. You can get the ninja loans, the no income, no job loans, and just again, over and over, these subtrimes built into this giant bubble that is built to crash. Whereas something that is backed by gold, you have a currency system that has to have checks and balances. That's where you can have a safe environment. There's a there's an economy that you can build something on, you can have savings.

All of that's been taken away from us. So we're in this free fall where you know, the rich get richer and the poor get poor because of that system. That's why the elites built the Federal Reserve, and it's the money supply is the issue. You go back to nineteen thirteen, you have a dollar as good as gold. You know, again, a twenty dollars gold piece is roughly an ounce of gold. By nineteen thirty three, because the Federal Reserve had taken control of the money supply, which is really the

banksters, they took control of it, they crashed the system. You know, they had people were borrowing funds, they had liquidity to borrow against stocks, and then margin call happened, so you know, you have the Great Depression, and FDR made it illegal for you to own gold so they could get the gold out of the hands of the American people. He said, turn your gold in, and people did, and all of that gold David

went to the Bank of International Settlements. And once those twenty dollars goal pieces were turned into all those gold coins, Franklin Roosevelt raised the price of gold to thirty five dollars an ounce. So they got the gold, and they got the higher prices, and they were able to offset whatever their losses were that they caused and the Great Depression. So it's an end. It's a club, and you ain't in it. You're not going to win this game.

So you got to look and see what the elites do and what the banksters do, and not what they say they want you in their fiat system. And I was reading an article yesterday and I didn't even know this, just a little bit of history, but it was on zero Hedge by the International Man and they were talking about in the nineteenth century, aluminum was very sought after. It's very rare, it doesn't occur naturally that often, and

now we just think of it's ubiquitous. It's like twenty cents a pound or whatever it is, because we have the ability through chemistry to make it in mass. But back then, I mean, Napoleon had his utensils that when you go to his parties, people the poor staff ate off the gold and the silver, and the rich had the aluminum, which is funny to us now, but it was so much more expensive, and by the Industrial Revolution it just the price crater. But people were getting their hands on aluminum.

And so what the article was saying was if something is rare, something cannot be reproduced easily, it becomes an asset. And again it's another example of hard asset. Well, gold has stayed steady. I mean, we see what's happened to illuminum, Gold and silver have states that he especially gold. You know, silver I think is manipulated beyond the point where I can even explain it. And we talked about this many times, where you know,

even the paper price. You look and it's estimated that for every ounce of silver that they sell in paper, you know, two hundred and forty times one ounce exists in the real world. We don't really know what they're doing, but I look at these these prices right now are just absolutely ridiculous, and I think it has to do with that's the schizophrenia in the financial system, and we really haven't reached a point where reality is rearing its ugly head.

But I think that that day is coming. You know, look at this tweet by Robert Kiyosaki. You mean the damage done and again inside job controlled demolition FTX, silver Gate Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, and all the regional pressure that was put on We're watching David. I think the auditioning of the major banks to roll out the Central Bank digital currency. It's going to come after a crisis. So oh yeah, well, I mean the long way of saying, you need to look at what value is that in the

future, not your dollar, And that's true. And you know they're they're how come you've got so many banks that are on the death watch list? Now, Well, it's because they manipulated them with what with their bonds and their treasury bonds and anything, rapidly changing the rates on these things to you know, make those bonds worthless, and they couldn't adjust their position quickly enough. So you know, now people are saying, hey, you bonds are

really good investments. Like seriously, it was only just a few months ago that we saw that as the weapon to destroy these banks. You know, when you've got something that it's like a manufactured collectible or something, you know, yeah, everybody go get the beanie babies because their value is only going to go up. And it's like, you're kidding me, right, They're just making this stuff up all the time, and it's not anything that's going

to have any lasting value. We see seven hundred and twenty five of them on the watch list, and you know, as I mentioned earlier in this court, case that went before the Supreme Court about the Consumer Protection financial Consumer Protection and Financial Board or whatever that was put in place supposedly to protect consumers and put in a lot of new rules about what banks could how they could do mortgages, right, and that was what was driving these banks out of

business at the rate of a couple hundred a year. And drudge doesn't import on that again, you know, but again that was a couple hundred a year, and now we're looking at seven hundred and twenty five based on the actions of the Federal Reserve and their rate manipulation in just this last year.

And the ridiculous commentary from mainstream media was it was Vox who said, oh, yeah, we don't want to get rid of the consumer financial Consumer Protection Financial Board, and all the banking industry is telling us they don't want to get rid of it because those are the guys, the big guys who profited from these rules. They made it impossible for small and medium sized banks to do home loans anymore, and that put a lot of them out of business,

and they want to keep that thing going. But that's the insider game. And when we talk about out silver and the paper silver and paper gold. I mean that that is essentially the same game that they were playing with secure highed mortgages. You know, what do you really have here? Well, do you really have a do you really have a valuable mortgage here? Is there anything of any value here? No, we just put this all

together and then you can buy shares in it. And that's what they're doing with the silver and goal, and they're doing it in Shanghai, China. You want to get you you want to get yourself shanghaied, you know, buy into the paper gold and the paper silver shares. It's easy to buy into them. You know, you just go on to into the stock market and they'll sell you this stuff. But does it have any real value? I don't think it does. I think that there's another scam, just like

the securitized mortgages. It's funny when history when governments pick up on that before long before the people do. And you look at what happened in the nineteen sixties after the assassination and murder of John F. Kennedy by the deep state. We took the silver out of our coin. It's something JFK didn't want to do. He actually signed an executive order on silver and had you know, printed five dollars bills and notes direct from the treasury, the only president

since Lincoln to do that. Well, you look at the debasement of the currency. It happened post nineteen sixty four. The governments around the world started to take notice because we were technically on a gold standard. We you know, had the Breton Woods Agreement nineteen forty four. Gold was thirty five dollars announce and these countries would come over and take their notes that they collected US dollars and get a go to the gold window. Well, after we started

debasing the currency, countries took notice. As matter of fact, the president of France, the Gaul, he sent warships over from France to pick up his gold and again I think they started to understand that. So there's a there's a hint here that you know, when you start debasing things, and especially since we've done this with the massive amount of printing historical that's you know, we don't these numbers, you can't even fathom them that we delved into

post twenty twenty. And that's why I think this everything that's based off dollars right now is really a skew and it doesn't make any sense. And this may be a time when they're accumulating. You really just don't know. But these numbers aren't reflecting reality. I mean, the price of goal broke. It's all time high in August of twenty twenty, David, as you know,

and what's happened since then. We've had a massive debasement of our currency since then, and even the amount of dollars used in financial transactions has dropped close to fifteen percent globally since that time. I mean, again, unprecedented. So I don't think I don't think the financial eleads and the mainstream media they're never going to talk about this until it's too late. And from what I'm seeing, these stress tests and other things. You have talked about the

banks going out of business and were talking about bonds and other things. The countries that are dumping us rapidly, and it's happening even going into gold or going to the Chinese. You want, this is historic and it's happening rapidly. Oh yeah, And you know in an article where they're talking about how the use of the Euro has really collapsed in the last nine months, again

because of this Ukraine stuff. Their economy is on the ropes. And they point out that the share of transactions in the euro has dropped from thirty eight percent in January to twenty three percent at the end of August. And they said, what is unusual about all this is the fact that it hasn't happened to the US yet. That is right now is just in the Eurozone economy. But you know, they continue to be able to suspend reality with their

manipulations. And the question is, you know, how long can they play this con game. That's another thing I noticed from the Big short you know, these guys are going around and saying, you know, look, this is what's being done, and this is totally criminal and there's absolutely no value here. And they're going to the regulators, and they're going to the people who do the rating of the bonds and the ratings of the investments and stuff like that, and they said, yeah, okay, well, so what

I'm not going to do anything about it. And this one character is like, I just can't believe that the system is this corrupt. I mean, he just could not get his head around the fact that these people are knowingly doing this. But you know, that's where we are right now. There's

many of us who understand that, and that's really what is happening. But in spite of all that, there's a zero hydraunical talking about how gold is held up extremely well in September, even against rising real rates, even as the home mortgages are starting to go up to eight percent and everybody is to, oh, now you need to get into bonds and things like that. No, actually, gold is holding its own yeah, and it always will.

I mean again, there's the charts. If you look at the actual supply of gold, I mean right now, you know the annual supply is not well, it's not in flux. There's not a lot of volume based off of what's happened in history. Most of the gold right now has already been mined, and then it's come from the centuries and centuries of mining. So this isn't something that you can't just go and create a new stock of gold. They're not going to hit some mother load anymore. This is not

going to happen. This is any new exploration, any new mining is very well crafted, very well planned. It takes years, it takes lots of work, so you just can't create it out of thin air. And again that's why governments are accumulating it. Well. And as we look at you know, this this mess in the Civil War and the House GOP and I I was looking at that, somebody came up with about ten or twelve possible candidates. You know, you've already had Jim Jordan throw his hat in the

ring, then Steve Scalise officially. There's other people they think may run, like the house whipped Tom Emmer. I thought, well, that'd be interesting. I don't know anything about most of these guys. I learned yesterday that McHenry who is you know, the secret speaker pro tem You know, they don't tell people who it is until the speaker's taken away for some reason. Then that's like, you know, well, let's open up the sealed letter

and find out who the replacement is. So the temporary replacement mckenry, somebody who's been involved with the World Economic Form speaking there many times, just like

McCarthy as well. But when you look at Emmer, I don't know his background except for the fact that he has for several years running it has been a big issue for him to oppose this CBDC thing and to me, you know, when we talk about all the different things happening and the economic uncertainty, inflation rearing its head, and all the rest of this stuff, and getting something that is real physical money, to me, it still goes back

to the CBDC thing. One of the reasons why I don't think that emer would get it because I think the powers it be would want to keep somebody away from the House Speakership who is that that's strongly in opposition to CBDC, because that is a big push for both Trump and for Biden and for the establishment to get that through. But I think that is the key thing, is what is going to happen with the CBDC. That's always what I look

at in terms of the gold stuff. Yeah, and it's going to be interesting because economic pressure is really where the rubber meets the road in politics goes back to the economy. Stupid, you know, but that's really what it comes down to it. Right now, we're still floating. There's a lot of I mean psychological but the economy, despite what Robert Reich and Paul Krugman say, the economy is not doing well. I know that because I have

almost inverted my business where I'm buying more instead of selling. And that's fine because we're here, that's what we do. We're a professional gold and silver exchange. But I can tell people are raising money, and I know people and you know that are experiencing harder economic conditions and having a harder time getting liquidity. And some sectors are really hurting, especially lending. So it's it's

not good. And you look at what happened when when you have a financial system that's on the ropes like ours, and when we reach some sort of calamity, candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Junior are going to be a lot more attractive. And he's talked about, uh, the ability to hold bitcoin being being sovereign and having your own keys and your own wallet. That's good and I think people are going to start turning turning to golden We look at

you talked about the costco story and you can't find gold there. Well, you can get gold from men. You can lock in the trade. You can go for me anytime if if the trading floor is open, I'll lock it in for you. But people, I think again, this is this is the beginning of the end of the end, result of what's called Gresham's law. And Gresham's law is when bad money enters a system, good money goes into a hot into hiding, and that goes into hiding until this system

is complete, when it runs out of everything. It's you know again, Richard Nixon took us off the gold standard seventy one. You got to know this history, because that's when our money became completely fake, and then other countries all over the world started to follow. So it's a complete worldwide financial fake system. And they just print it's Kynesian, you know. And I think even Nixon said we're all Canesians. Now, well, good luck with

that, you know. John Mayner Kaine said that gold was a barbarous relic. Well, okay, then I guess I guess. I guess I'm a barbarian because I like value and I don't want to take part in your fake fiance system which has created so much evil around the world. So I think this people need to understand there's going to be a shift in our perception of what value is, and especially even the average consumer. If you're selling out of gold at costco, that's a tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think kines in economics is a cane that people are going to lean on that's going to pierce their hand. You know, it's kind of and as you're talking about, you know, the Gresham's law as a system runs through its completion now the words you go through a cycle whereverybody realizes what a minute this is, Uh, this is garbage. And we're in that right now. That's what the fourth turning is really about. People realizing that, hey,

you know, Congress doesn't work. Even the congressmen in Congress understand Congress doesn't work. Uh, the federal government doesn't work. None of these institutions work. The schools don't work. They're weaponized against us. And and and you know when people look at the financial system, they see how it's not working and how it is also weaponized against us. That is all part of a fourth turning. Fourth turning. Key thing in all of them has been

economics. They don't you don't always have a war, but you always do have massive economic unrest because of these institutionals, institutional things that are failing. Tell us a bit about what's going on at Wisewolf and you know, how are you doing personally there? And with a store that's opened up now in Texas physical presence there as well as in Arkansas. But you know, tell

us at a bit about Wisewolf, what's going on. Well, this morning, I'm in Branson, Missouri, and I'm here at this shop for the next week or so. I've got a great team up here, and we got Dennis and Texas running it. It's doing well, which is kind of one customer at a time, and it's proximity to the trading floor. And we did that on purpose to create a supply chain. Really, David, I mean, I think that's all goal dealers will be defined by their ability

to source product in the future. So that's what I'm doing here. And we have for your listeners if you're listening live. We haven't announced it yet, but I did a big silver buy in for ninety percent, So all those coins I was talking about pre pre John F. Kennedy nineteen sixty four or nineteen sixty three and before ninety percent quarters half dollars, and we have some ten ouns silver bars and about I think about forty thousand dollars worth.

So we're going to be putting that on a flash sale for all wolf Pack members and that's going to go out probably a little bit later today. I've had it for a couple of days. Well, we're giving away Constitutional Silver or anybody who joins wolf Pack or upgrades and wolf Packet, if they're a David Night listener, you can go and just make sure you give David Knight credit and we'll put your name aside and that's going to we're going to send

you free Constitutional Silver, or if you recommend somebody to join. That's to me. Wolf Pack has been put out front because the it's the community I want to build and the network, the purchasing power, all that I'm able to do buy ins it. It's just a good, good way to save. It's a good way to stack in kind of the face of dollar cost averaging and the loss of purchase power of the dollar. So whether gold's up or down, you can just kind of set it and we'll let us go

out and source your product for you. So go to David Knight dot gold and check out the tab that says join Wolfpack. We have a lot going on there, and like I said, there's a flash sale going on today. If you want to go ahead and email us or go to Davidnight dot gold and just let us. Know you come from here. We haven't put it out anywhere, so this is the first time anybody's really hearing about it.

I had a David Night listener call me yesterday and I actually sold him some I said, well you get to you get the first crack at it because I have it sitting over here on the shelf. So lots going on. We definitely want to make gold and silver affordable. Uh, and that's why we developed wolf Pack. So every call is important to us. Doesn't matter how much you have, So go to David Knight dot Gold. We want you to be a part of our of our pack. Well, that's

a great thing. You know that you set this up to help people be able to exchange information with each other and and learn as well as you know the flash sales like you're talking about, and then provide for you a main to save on a regular basis. You know, that's the key thing for any kind of an investment program, just doing it gradually and repetitively, and that really does accumulate. And so all those things are just indicative I think

of the way that you view the business, Tony. You do a great job of service for people, and Tony I've known him for years, a great, great guy, trustworthy and all of that is very important. But you know, it's we're now starting to see that shift there. That's why you're seeing the talk about. You know, people can't find this stuff at retail, but Tony's got access to the stuff there at the trading floor and you know he'll eventually he can lock in that price and eventually get that for

you. And that's the key thing. So thank you so much for joining us Tony again. Wisewolf Gold and you can find it at David Knight dot Gold. We'll take you there and let Tony know that we sent you. Thank you so much, Tony, Thank you, Dave appreciate it. Have a good day. Okay, folks, you gotta take quick break and we're going to join We're going to have Guy Ralford join us, the gun guy.

It's got some very important information about a self defense issue. He has a Second Amendment attorney there, and I think you're going to find this very interesting. Stay with us, will be right back in a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to the David Knight Show, Yeah, you bet all right. Joining us. Now is Guy

Ralford, and we've had him on several times. That guy is an attorney as well as an NRA firearms instructor and other things like that, but he focuses on a second amendment his practices in Indiana, and there's a couple of very interesting cases that he was directly involved in, as well as a law in Indiana that helps to clarify what our rights are when we have to use deadly force and self defense. And so we want to talk about those two cases with him. Thank you for joining us, Guy. Oh, it's

always a pleasure, David. Let's talk about this is a couple of different cases. Christy Phillips was one that you got involved in, and tell us a little bit about the facts of that case and then how that got you to get involved in changing the law. And then now you've had another second case and you've seen how important it is that that law was changed. But first tell us bit about Christy Phillips and what happened in that particular case.

You bet Kisty is a very heroic young lady who lives down in southern Indiana in a very small town called Rising Sun, Indiana. And here about four years ago, she was involved in a situation where there was a traffic stop right in front of her house, and it being a very small town, the officer who had pulled over this guy for suspicious activity in the neighborhood.

That officer's son was actually at Kisty's house because he knew Kisty's daughter, and so they're watching it basically as this kid's dad and their fellow community member. This police officer had pulled this person over. A person turned out to be on drugs, on methamphetamine as well as other illegal drugs. He immediately got out of the vehicle. He's screaming profanity. He's screaming undecipherable gibberish. The officer tells him to get tells him to get back in his vehicle. He

doesn't. He ends up running up on the officer, tackles the officer and is trying to get the officer's gun. The person who was a former high school wrestler, pretty stocky guy, and he's winning the fight and and the officer's losing control of his firearm. There's they're still wrestling over it to some degree, but but Kissy realizes this is about to turn very bad very quickly, she grabs her gun. She runs out to the front of her house, and she's yelling, get off him, get off him, stop.

Stop. That guy doesn't stop. The gun's literally seconds or milliseconds away from being aimed at the police officer's head, and she shot the bad guy and uh and ended the threat and that person ended up dying. But the that officer actually later on told me, uh, he said, he said, you know, when I heard that gun shot, I really thought it was me dying, and I was and I was saying a prayer that I just

hope my son didn't didn't watch me get killed. But in fact, that the gunshot was Kissedy, uh, which is like Christie without the R. It always sounds like people are mispronouncing it. Yeah, I see that really quickly. Yeah. Well it's not as weird as guy, but it's a little bit of an unusual name. But but at any rate, Uh. The local prosecutor's office called your hero. The local police officers called your hero.

This particular officer definitely called her a hero, saying that she clearly saved his life, but just shy of Two years later, just before the statute limitations would run, she get sued for millions and millions of dollars by the family of the deceased bad guy, uh, saying that she was just a hysterical female who had overreacted and and and there was never a reason to use

deadly force. Uh and this was wrongful death. And she now owes the family mill Wow, did they not have a Was there a police officer's body camera or and our camera in the police car that requires Yeah, there was no video. There was no video of the event. But everybody there, everyone who witnessed it, including the officer, told the same story. I

mean, there was really no ambiguity about what happened. But because this was something that happened literally in her front yard, her homeowner's insurance was implicated. And what's really interesting about homeowners insurance in this situation is there's an exclusion for intentional acts, like if I intentionally hurt somebody on my property. But there's an exception to the exclusion, which is if I acted lawful and justified self

defense or defense of a third person. So her insurance company center a letter and said, well, we're going to defend you, but one we have the right to settle if we want and two, if it turns out you were not justified, you have no coverage as against any verdict that might be

imposed against you. Wow. So the local police officers, the fterneral order or police down there, looked at this whole situation and said, we don't like anything about this, the fact she's being sued, that the insurance company has the ability to control the defense and any potential settlement. And they actually called NRA. At the same time, they set up a gofund me account

and raised a bunch of money, almost six figures. And so we want to hire the best self defense lawyer that we can find in Indiana, and they called NRA. NRA thankfully, at least I'm grateful they recommended me, and she hired me, And I told her two things when she hired me, I said, I said, Kissy, we're not only going to win this stupid case because it's a frivolous lawsuit. Well, we're going to use this case to change the law. And that's exactly what we did. We

got that case dismissed. But in the meantime, we had a bill pending in the General Assembly in Indiana that says there's complete immunity for the lawful and justified use of force and self defense or defense of a third person. You can't file a lawsuit if you were injured by that justified use of force, or you're if you're the family of a person who dies as a result of

that justified uh force and self defense or defense of a third person. And if you say, damn the torpedoes and file a lawsuit anyway in the face of this immunity, there's a mechanism to get the case dismissed curly on what's called summary judgment. And there's a mandatory attorneys fees provision that says that the plaintiff then has to pay back all the defendant's attorneys fees were having brought that troublous lawsuit in the face of the immunity statute. So that's and you yours,

what we did. You were involved that is an amazing case, the facts of that, and then and then the follow up to that, and then you are involved in that legislation. Is that correct? I was because and I'm real active legislatively. I started a group called the Two Way Project,

which is folks focused on Second Amendment rights. As you mentioned, my law practice is folks focused on Second Amendment rights, and so I'm very I've always been very involved legislatively, and I've helped write other bills or have written other bills, and so here I wrote a self defense bill that laid out what we just described and then took it to some legislators here in Indiana and

said, hey, we want to get this thing passed. And I was able to do that in the context of Kisty's story, which made it that much more compelling. And by the way, I mean, I always liked to brag that I wrote this thing and then helped to get it passed.

But Kisty came in and testified in both both the House committee that heard the bill and the Senate committee in Indiana, and it wasn't it dry eye in the room because of how compelling her story was that she really was forced into this to defend a neighbor and a police officer, and then her life basically could have been destroyed by her being sued for millions and millions of dollars, and it was very compelling. So Kisty Phillips is the reason we have that

new statute. Well, that's great. I'm glad to see a happy ending to this, and it is a happy ending, and you know, she went through this, but it's going to be something she can be proud of. You know, this there wasn't it wasn't pointless suffering, and it had a good resolution in it. You know, you talk about her particular testimony,

it reminds me of years and years ago the Louby cafeteria situation. Had a woman who was a dentist and she was there with her parents and she was you know, at the time, she wasn't allowed to carry her firearms, so she left it, and you know, she was worried about the legal invocations of it, so she left it in her glove compartment, had somebody drive through into the building with its car, it gets out, starts

shooting people. And her testimony, she later became a legislator, and I remember seeing her testimony many many times, careful testimony of how if she had had her gun, she could have saved her parents, but she was told

that she couldn't and that made a big, big difference. And unfortunately, you know, it was a very tragic situation for her because she lost both of her parents and a lot of people were killed in that The good thing in this one is that even though Kissy went through a real ordeal with that, and it is an ordeal whenever you have to use your gun to kill somebody, but it is it is preferable to seeing your loved ones or friends

or someone killed murdered unnecessarily. And so you know, for all the stuff that she went through it and had had a great outcome, that's a super story really well, you know. And and what really hit me hard it meant a lot to me is in one of the committee hearings, I was in the House Judiciary Committee, one of the legislators seeing that that Kissy was very emotional about this and was obviously putting herself through the trauma again by coming

in and testifying publicly about it when she didn't have to do that. She she could have stayed home and avoided having to relive that whole traumatic situation, including the trauma be ensued where she was worried about losing her her kids who's a single mom. She was worried about losing her her daughter's college savings funds, and her house. But at any rate, one of the legislators asked her and said, you know what made you come in and speak to us

and and and support this bill. As you said, you know what, without an immunity bill like this, if these people were able to successfully sue me, for instance, then I'm worried that the next person won't run out their door and save that police officer, or the next person won't, you know, take their take their gun into Libby's and have it available to them to save innocent lives. And I'm I'm worried about the negative effect that a

law seat like this has. And I'm willing to put myself through this because I think that we need this law for exactly that reason, and as a deterrent to those lawsuits, so that the lawsuits aren't a deterrent to law abiding citizens defending themselves or defending other innocent people. And again, I that was incredibly compelling. Oh yeah, yeah. And of course the insurance company, if they didn't throw her under the bus, they would have thrown everybody else

under the bus, even by making some kind of a settlement. You know, that's probably what these people had calculated. She's got deep pockets because of the policy that's there, and you know that would have established that kind of precedent that you talked about for everybody else and put a lot of people at risk. It would have raised everybody's insurance premiums, because that's why the insurance company doesn't care about that kind of stuff. It's like, yeah, we'll

make a settlement with them, and we'll just raise everybody's premiums. So it helped in so many different ways. It truly is amazing. And that's something the law getting passed is how long ago was this case? You said they waited two years before they came after Kissy was And then when did this law

get put through? Did the law just get passed through recently? Actually the law just the law went into effect twenty nineteen, Okay, okay, So I guess the event with Kissy was perhaps a little earlier than what I described. But the law was passed in twenty nineteen, and that was a little

more than two years after the original incident. And it was kind of neat because we had the NA annual meeting here in Indianapolis that year and UH and our governor, Governor Holcomb actually signed the bill into law from the from the main stage at the NA leadership conference, which was a big event. So it was it was. It was very satisfying. A lot of workmen into it. But I was able to be there with kisst when the governor signed

it, and so it was it was. It was a big event, but it's a it's a it's a really important change, and I'm proud that it happened in Indiana. But one of the reasons I was so enthused about talking to you about it, David, is there's no reason why this shouldn't be the law in all fifty states. Now we know there are blue states out there that would never consider it in a million years. Could they despise

our ability to defend ourselves. But for for for the majority of the states in his country, there's no reason why there shouldn't be a similar lay out

there protecting people. And I'll tell you, I mean, for instance, I'm I'm not only an instructor, but I'm kind of a training junkie when it when it comes to firearms and self defense, and I go to multiple classes every year, and I bet I've been literally, I bet I've been to three or four dozen k classes where at some point there's a lecture that says, and oh, by the way, if you use force even if you're completely justified, you just better count on getting sued. The bad guy

is going to suit on. It doesn't matter if he breaks into your house, if he gets hurt, he's going to sue you. Or if he gets killed, his family's going to sue you. And I would always sit there listening to that lecture, especially as a lawyer, going well, why is that? Why is that? Okay? You know what, and let's

fix this thing. You know, we got this nail that we've been got, the old sleeping dog has been laying on this nail on the front porch and just too much a problem to get up and do something about it. You know, let's fix this problem exactly. And and and by the way, Kissy at the time was the seventh person that I had represented who would lawfully and justifiably use force and self defense and either got prosecuted or got sued or both. And I looked at that and said, you know, that's

just not okay. I'm not trying to cut into my own business, but I'd rather have citizens have immunity. And that mandatory attorneys fees provision is so important because that's a big deterrent because before that Planeff's lawyer. I mean, how many times have you heard the commercial of well, unless I recover for you, you don't have to pay me any attorney's fees, right, I mean you see that commercial all the time. Well, now they can say, well, you don't have to pay me any money as your lawyer is

the Planeffs lawyer, unless we recover. But oh, by the way, there's this immunity that we probably can't defeat. And if we can't defeat it, the case is going to get dismissed. And once the case get is dismissed, you have to pay all the other side their attorney's fees back. Yeah, after recovering nothing. So it's a huge deterrent and we're really proud of it. That's good. Yeah, people need to look at that. And you know, we see these types of things going around there, the

gun control laws. Some you know, California will come up with some idea in New Jersey and they'll start passing that around. But it works the other way as well. You know, we've seen the increase in constitutional carry bills going around and increasing in states, and this is the type of thing that really does need to increase. I've heard all the commercials about you know, well, if you carry concealed, you know you need to join this organization.

We've got like an insurance policy here to defend you. But you know, cut it off at the beginning, you know, don't clutter, don't expose anybody to this jeopardy. If it is justifiable and the law enforcement people realize that it's justifiable, you should not have any legal jeopardy over some kind of a civil action that is being taken over that that really is the right

approach. You're correct about it, and that's how our statute works. Actually good picking up exactly on your point, David, which is that if there's no criminal prosecution from the use of force where self defense or defense of a third person is claimed, that lack of criminal prosecution raises a presumption of justification, which implicates the immunity, and you can use that presumption of justification to

get the case thrown out early based on a lack of criminal prosecution. So it really works exactly like you suggested, and that's how we wrote the statute that we've had for a while, and here just recently what was really satisfying. I know you've seen this opinion is. We were able to use that statue to get a case where I represented two homeowners who defended their home against somebody trying to break in in the middle of the night and then got sued

for it. We were able to successfully have that case dismissed her more recently, and that's a compelling story too. Yeah, yeah, have this. So you were involved in the landmark case that pushed through the legislation that you helped to write, and now you had somebody who decided that they would they felt lucky, so they were against this law even though and you got that shed down. Tell us about that particular case. That's the details of that.

Sure, that one much more recent. In fact, it's really still pending over a couple of straight of issues. But this is one where two homeowners in Indianapolis. We're asleep in bed at three o'clock in the morning. The dog starts barking. They realize someone's pounding on the front door. They ran out and the man did and someone is kicking on their front door. Then he's putting the full force of his weight and his shoulder into the door, trying to break the door down. He's screaming, let me in.

Let me in. The homeowner yells, I don't know you go away, and the guy outside is cussing a lot and doesn't make a lot of sense, but he runs around to the back of the house tries to get in the back door. It's locked, thankfully, but then he breaks the window in the next to the back door in a parent attempt to reach in and

unlock the door. And the homeowner at this point has retrieved his handgun and he said, listen, go away, I have a gun, and the guy that responded by saying, well, then you're going to have to shoot me. Word I won't used it starts with a B. You know you're gonna have to shoot me, And at which point he tried to gain entry, and the homeowner, having no alternative, shot him. And exactly the

same thing in the sense that the prosecutor's office looked at it. The police investigated, all the physical evidence matched up with what the story the both he told and his wife told. It was a clear case of castle doctrine, where you can defend your home, including with deadly force the way our laws written in Indiana against an unlawful entry and even to prevent an unlawful entry you

don't have to don't have to be in your house. If they're trying to get in your house, you can prevent that unlawful entry, including with deadly force. And that's the way the law's written, this way it should be written, and we included in our immunity statue we defined as a forcible felony someone trying to break into your home in violation of the castle doctrine committee a crime. A lot of states call it breaking an entry, breaking and entering.

In Indiana we call it residential entry. But anyway, we said, if you're trying to commit residential entry, that's a forcible felony. And in Indiana, stopping someone from committing a forcible felonies also justified in terms of the use of deadly forced So again no prosecution. And we raised this new immunity. I put it in my answer to the planeiff's complaint and said you can't file this lawsuit. We have immunity for this, and there's going to be

an attorney's fees award. They said, damn the torpedoes. No, no, we think we can defeat it. We think we have evidence that wasn't justified. And just a couple of weeks ago, we went in and had a hearing, hearing Marion County, which is Indianapolis, and just a matter of days ago got the judge's opinion where he said, Nope, the law

is clear. There's immunity under this situation. The presumption that arises from the lack of criminal prosecution could be used to get a case dismissed when the plantiff has no affirmative evidence to rebut the presumption that the use of force was justified. And here they had no a had speculation. They said, well, he was just asking to come in. He wasn't trying to break in. Really, what about the broken window? I mean, it was really kind of silly. But judge, judge, and I give judges a lot of

credit because judges don't like to dismiss cases early. If you look at when judges get reversed on appeal U grant, you know, dismissing cases early is fertile ground for getting that reverse. Not here because it's very very clear cut, but generally speaking, judges are reluctant to grant summary judgment or motions to dismiss, and this judge had the had the fortitude to do just that.

And said the laws also clear that the plantiffs have to pay the defendants back their attorneys fees, and so asked me to submit my final statement on my fee, which the courtal review, and then they're going to award attorney's fees. So my client doesn't have to worry about paying me any money because they're going to get that paid from the planet. Uh. And you deserve it.

You've done a great job. You defended that other person. You got a law run through there, and that law has held up now and that's, you know, for a second time, you defended some of course you said you defended a lot of people like that, but that's exactly what we should see with that. Let me and of course I didn't mention the beginning

of the program. You've also got a radio program. Besides being ANRA instructor and besides having a law firm that specialized in the Second Amendment, Guy Relford R E. L F O R D. If you want to find him on Facebook if you need his help, But you also have a radio program, The Gun Guy. I love the title that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, again the radio station likes making use of my odd name, but

yeah, but yeah, it's just a weekly show, David. It's just on Saturdays in Indianapolis, but they also put it out there as a as a podcast as well, so a lot of people who can't listen in live from five to seven in central Indiana. We reach I think fifty two counties, so it's a it's a good sized radio station. But people who can't listen in can go to WIBC com and find the podcast as well. And we just talked about Second Amendment issues. And it's it's kind of fun because

it's a call in show for the whole two hours. Yeah, I'm on the air, and that's my favorite. My actually, my very favorite is when people call in and want to argue with me because I do this for a living, right, But but it's it's a lot of fun. And but you know, people call in with everything under the sun, from legal questions. I don't give legal advice on the radio, but I can explain what the laws say, and to technical questions, gun questions, you know,

I mean, how do I fix this problem with my trigger? On AR fifteen. I'm just it's really interesting. I never know what I'm going to get, which really makes it it's fun for me to do. Of course, I always have somewhat of an agenda in terms of what I want to get into, but the listeners often take us in different directions based on the calls we get, which make it makes it a lot of fun.

I bet it's fun, especially when somebody calls in they want argument that when you said where, you said that that made me think of the old Monty Python skit. You know where, because you want an argument starts arguing about whether he's going to do an argument with him or not. But you've got more substantial arguments to talk about. Let me ask you this, because we've

had some interesting things. As you point out, it brings up a lot of different interesting points of law, and we've had an interesting back and forth. I talked about last week about the fact that Trump went to South Carolina and they had a commemorative gun that had his face on the handle, and it's like, oh, yeah, I got to get one of these and everything, and then his assistant said, yeah, he bought it. And then he had all these people say, wait a minute, he's indicted for

a fella. He can't buy a gun, which is very similar. As Reason pointed out, it was exactly the same type of thing that they're coming after Hunter Biden. You know, they're saying, well, you know, you're not allowed to buy a gun if you're a drug addict or drug user or whatever. You know, both of these things are non violent issues.

You know, Trump hasn't been convicted of anything. He's just been indicted for something, indicted for something that is not a violent crime even and so you know, they were looking at this and they said, you know, we need to look at these laws and not be so colored. You know, you've got people who were cheering the fact that maybe we got another thing on Trump here, or other people saying, yeah, let's get Biden on this thing. But you know, maybe the law itself is a thing that needs

to be changed as to whether or not the ATF has it. And then I saw another issue where they said, it looks like a Hunter may wind up trying to use Bruin and that decision to say, you know, this is an unusual restriction that's been put here that is not doesn't really have doesn't fit in the historical context of what was meant by the Second Amendment. And so according to Bruin, maybe you know, he gets off. He still has an issue I would imagine of lying on a form. But nevertheless,

you know, what do you make of that of those two juxtaposition. I oh, it's an interesting juxtaposition of those two that you might have actually the Biden family supporting the Second Amendment and some freedoms involved there an intentional war and litigation maker strange bedfellows. And but yeah, I mean, if anybody would have ever asked me I would support a legal argument that Hunter Biden was making,

I would have doubted it. But but here your wise, and you're dead on David to focus on the Brewin decision, because both in the Trump scenario and the Hunter Biden scenario, that that's exactly where they're going. In fact, the exact law that you mentioned relative to Hunter Biden was recently found to be unconstitutional. This is it a district court case in Texas, so

it has no direct bearing on his case. But I can see that it really snowballing because you know, as you said, and as you know, you know, Bruin says, look, we look at text, history and tradition, and we look at the text the Second Amendment. Does this law

implicate a protected writer not? If it does, then we say, all right, does the long history and tradition of the regulation of this right support this particular limitation in the sense that it's been upheld and it's been found to be legal and allowable under the Second Amendment historically and traditionally in this country. And that's going back to the founding. That's not since the Brady Bill in

nineteen ninety four. I mean, that's all very very recent stuff. It's all, you know, going back to the founding and even to some degree looking at English law that US law is based on, and in this case that found the law that says, if you're a user of or addicted to in the illegal drugs, you can't possess a firearm and make it a felony

to do so. This court in Texans looked at that and said, hold on, we can find historical restrictions on saying someone can't possess a firearm if they're currently intoxicated or you know, inebriated, impaired, but we don't see anywhere just the occasional user and important distinction. That was a case where this guy was an occasional marijuana user and he admitted to authorities he yeah, he

said, you know, I'm a recreational marijuana user. I said, Oh well, and marijuana is still illegal at the federal level through the Controlled Substances Act in nineteen seventy, so therefore it's illegal under federal law. Therefore, you've admitted you're a user of or addicted to an illegal drug. Therefore you're going to prison for ten years or at least a maximum. And that's what

they found to be unconstitutional under the Brewin analysis. But the very similar thing, and in fact, Amy Cony Barrett now on the Supreme Court wrote an opinion that said just this. It was a descent, but it was at the Seventh Circuit. They said laws saying even people convicted of nonviolent felonies should

not lose their rights. And the law that says that if you have any felony conviction, even a non violent one, I mean you could have a get a you know, an accounting conviction based on tax fraud or something, and suddenly you're being likened to a violent criminal. We can't trust with a firearm. And Amy Cody Barrett wrote an opinion before ruined, obviously that said

this is unconstitutional. There's no history and tradition of limiting nonviolent people just because of a criminal conviction, and then compound that and say, well, here Trump hasn't even been convicted of a non violent felony. He's only been indicted. Yeah, So the law that says if you're just under an indictment for

a felony, even a non violent felony. So to say that's unconstitutional under a Bruin analysis is not a stretch because we're seeing we were seeing these different laws, a lot of these very recent laws, a lot of them part of the Brady Bill, some of them part of the Gun Control Act in nineteen sixty eight. But a lot of these are following one after the other.

And I'm somewhat expecting the pendulum to swing back because, for instance, there's a there's a case in front of the Supreme Court right now that involves the law that says if you are under a domestic violence order of protection, you can't possess a firearm, and that that doesn't mean you've been convicted of a cron That doesn't mean you you know, you've been, it's been pre that you are, you know, a violent person based on your criminal history.

Is just a judge found enough of a threat to say you ought to be under this domestic violence order protection. The Fifth Circuit again, another case coming out of Texas found that law to be unconstitutional, to say, wait a minute, there's no criminal conviction here, there's a there's a potential threat, but we don't take people's constitutional rights away on that basis, at least not historically and traditionally under the Bruin analysis that is in front of the Supreme

Court right now. And and and it doesn't feel very good, I will tell you, because the guys think they might take the gun into the due process later, as Trump said, But this one had had been in multiple domestic violence. This particular litigant had been under mutual domestic violence order protection involving multiple women. And and and he does appear to have somewhat of a criminal history. Now there's a reason that blindfold is on, lady judge right.

And the judges aren't supposed to look at the facts of any individual case and be influenced by that. They're supposed to do a strict legal analysis under the concept that justice is blind. But I think anybody who wouldn't think that these particular facts wouldn't leave the Supreme Court to go well, maybe we had to roll this back just a bit. I think it's probably being a little naive because there's no old saying among lawyers that bad facts make for bad law,

and these facts are not great. It's not the case I would have wanted to have taken up on that issue. But anyway, based on the analysis is out there right now and based on Bruin as it exists, these laws. You know the fact that a eighteen to twenty year old can't buy a handgun in a gun store under federal law. What's the history and tradition of having to be twenty one to be armed in this country when if you've joined

the militia quote unquote in seventeen ninety one, at seventeen or sixteen. So there's there's a lot to talk about for a lot of these laws where we

get drafted in modern America at eighteen and sent to Vietnam. Right, but you can't buy a gun, and you know, that's the kind of stuff that you know, we see, and of course you know that was even you know when I mentioned, you know, take the gun and do the due process later with the red flag stuff and everything at that same meeting, you know, Trump was pushing the idea of let's raise the age that people

can buy guns. It's kind of interesting because this whole Brewin thing, I think it's going to you know, hit a lot of these different issues again, you know, like the bump stock for example. You know, what's Brewing going to do to the bump stock. We've seen a surprising number of

losses in terms of the challenges against the bump stock. And to me, that was a very, very big precedent because it established the fact that not only could they infringe against our constitutional you know, protections of a god given right, but they could also it could be done not just by the legislature, but it could be done by the bureaucracy or by a president that's running the bureaucracy. And now we've seen you know, Biden exercising that as well.

And so when you go back here, look at the bump stock thing, we got this I think it's a Fifth Circuit talked about it just last couple of days. Yeah, the Fifth Circuit court where you got i know, a Michael Carrgill back at that Central Texas Gun Works who's running that through. He's had a victory there, but there's been losses on the other side of this with a lot of other courts. What do you think is going

to happen with that bump stock because that is a big precedent. You know, we've never had regulation of attachments and things like that before, especially by executive order. Yeah, it's such an important point, David. I'm glad you raised it because I said when it happened, you know Trump, you remember the news conference he said, well, bump stocks are gone, right, Tady's responding to the horrific shooting in Las Vegas, and he said that, well, he said, I can do that. I don't need to

have any Guys. It's like, well, that's exactly that's exactly right. And and so many people on on you know, our side of the Second Amendment debate said well, you know what, if we give them bump stocks, then maybe they won't come after so called assault weapons SI automatic rifles, and so nobody really cares about bump stocks anyway. So uh, you know, and even the NRA came out and I strongly disagreed with the NRA on

this, and I said, this publicly huge mistake. NRA came out and said, we invite the ATF to re examine the legality of bump stocks. And I'm saying, I'm sorry, you're inviting the ATF to rewrite laws written by Congress and and and simply because the president tells them to do so doesn't make it legal or constitutional. It's a it's a it's an inappropriate use of the legislative power by an executive agency. And that's what we need to reel

back in this country. But but when Trump did it and people say, well, guy, do you really care about bumpstocks? I go, Now, bumpstocks are stupid. If you come to my range where I'm teaching a class and you get a bumpstock on your rifle, I'm gonna make fun of you, even you know, before the band, because you're trading. You're trading accuracy for rate of fire, which is typically stupid. So at any rate, I didn't care about bumpstock. Bumpstocks are dumb. I would never

own one. But the precedent, and that's why the point you made is the important one. The precedent he made by saying I'm going to snap my finger. Well, what did Obama say? I got a phone and a

pen? Yeah, Well, he never much delivered on that, but President Trump did and then and then, now, what do you see in ATF on so called ghost guns, atf on what they're calling forced reset triggers, ATF on short barreled rifles, where they're saying, oh, well, we told you ten years ago that if you put a brace on your pistol, it doesn't make it a rifle. But we changed our mind. So now we're going to rewrite a definition of short barreled rifle as written by Congress and

all that's based on the bumpstock precedent. And now I think we have a great shot at destroying a lot of these, not only under the Bruin analysis, but because they are in fact unconstitutional in the fact that their legislative authority being exercised by the executive branch. And we even had an important decision that had nothing to do with guns at the Second Amendment came out of Supreme Court here a couple of years ago. It was a West Virginia and it was

an ep A regulation case. I think it was a clean water or clean air case. I don't remember now, but they said hold on, you know, the EPA just going out there and making up its own rules without

an express delegation of authority from Congress does doesn't fly anymore. And we're reeling back on that fourth branch of government that's become so danger in this country, so dangerous in this country that our founders never intended for, you know, for the I R S and the at F and all these executive agencies to be able to have the power they do, and a bunch of armed agents turning around putting people in prison. That's not what we ever envisioned from in

terms of enforcing rules that they've written and that they've created without Congress. That's what was never intended by our founders. And so hopefully we get that reeled back, and ATF is fertile ground for that right now, for all the reasons you mentioned, Yeah, that really it just I couldn't believe when that happened, because I've talked for the longest time about the power of the gureacracy of the regulatory state. I said, you know, we had this,

the slogan for the for seventeen seventy six was no taxation without representation. Well we have now taxation without representation because these people can find us. But we also have regulation without representation. And what's even worse is they say, well, because this is a rule and not a law, you don't get due process, you're going to get the presumption of innocence, and you don't get

protection against excessive fines. And so we've seen this metastasize. You know, originally I think it was the IRS that was doing it predominantly, but now it's metastasized all these different agencies, and so now they're going to just do gun control by doing that as well, that's a really, really dangerous thing. And it was. It was not just the bump stock, it was also the pistol brace under Trump, and that got put in in twenty nineteen.

Then they pulled it out in December of twenty twenty, but then Biden puts it back in La La Harris when she's running, said yeah, I'm going to give Congress on hundred days to do all the gun control stuff I want if you elect me as president, and then I'll just do it by executive order. If they don't do it at that point. It really is a horrific thing, and it is a much bigger problem than even just a second amendment. To try to get this regulatory state under control. So it'd

be interesting to see what happens with the Supreme Court decisions on this. And again, I think the bump stock issue is such an important thing, even though the bump stock itself, as you point out, this total piece of garbage. You know, everybody says it's based of garbage, but it's an important principle and that's the key thing. The principle is so important even if

the item isn't so well. It's always great talking to you guy. And again people can find a gun guy, and they can find that at what's the call letters for the radio station? Again, where they can find that poost WIBC. Yeah, you can find me at WABC dot com or my Twitter or x I guess we're calling it now is just at Guy Ralford. Great, great, Thank you very much, guy. Always a pleasure to talk to you and thank you for what you've done. And that's a great

example that you got there and other states do need to implement that. That is an important law to protect people who are doing what they can to protect themselves and protect they are innocent people. At the same time, thank you so much. Thank you, David. Always an honor. Thank you. We're gonna take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back. The seed in our hold, my boys, man that go where all can see me and with our devotion. Boys call it the Liberty Tree. It's

a tall old tree and the strong old tree. And we are the sons, Yes, we are the sons, the sons of liberty. M liberty. It's your move. You're listening to the David Knight show. Well, we had a disturbing thing and it happened yesterday in the UK. And always a lot of disturbing things happening. They're the fantasticizing Orwellian state. Lawrence Fox, who is a was an actor until he spoke out about his politics and he got banned, but of course he still is a very good actor.

He was in the played Hunter Biden of all Things and My Son Hunter that was done by fellow mclere. And he is run for Mayor of London against Sadik Khan. He has been involved in the creation of a political party to try to undo this globalist attack on our society and our liberties, called Reclaim. But he was arrested yesterday for things that he had to say and I thought it was kind of an This is an interesting case because they have charged

him with conspiracy, not with hate speech or something. He's been arrested on suspicion of conspiring to commit criminal damage to these despicable ultral o emission zone cameras. And we've seen the videos of the people out there, you know, wearing masks and hiding their identity and cutting these things down, and I sympathize with them. Actually I'll say that I applaud them, but I'm not engaging

in any of this conduct myself. But he had declared his intention to participate in that, openly defying these cameras, and so it was, you know, this is a bit of activism that's strictly speech. But let me show you what happened. Here he is, as he's live streaming the police coming into his home prior as part of his arrest, doing a search of his home. Morning guys in London's knife ridden capital city where a fifteen year old

girl was stabbed to death with a sword. We've got one two, show one two, another three upstairs stealing going through my house to intimidate me. Because this is what the police are. They don't police with consent, anymore. They police with fear and intimidation. That is the stars the police force that we've got nowadays. Instead of being on the streets solving crimes ie the murder of the poor fifteen year old girl, they're on all over social media.

I take it the Uless scam. Cameras outside of London are a complete out of Uless done is a complete scam. There's no scientific evidence. City kind of rubbished the evidence and had it rewritten to serve as needs. No one vaited it. It's the beginning and bringing in of a surveillance state. And he's trying to make noises so that I can't say that it's the beginning of the surveillance state. And these boys are the Starzi City stars. He bless him so to have a lovely day. I'm going to spend my day

in the clink in it. Yeah, And he's absolutely right about all that. At the beginning of the you know, well, it's not the beginning, but it's fantastasizing in the next level of in your face surveillance state, and these guys are acting as the Starzi uh. And then but he had also the reason that they were there. This this clip shows him talking a little bit about them being there, but also about what he said, which is what they claim gives them their rate to come there coming after what Look,

how many coppers there are in my house coming to feel everything? Take everything out of my ouse? La ladies and gentlemen. Is the company that we live in. The Only way to deal with this be tearing down you less cameras and to tear down every single camera there is. And I will I will be joining them to tear down cameras as well, because I have to. I'm one of those people that puts my money where my mouth is, so I'm pretty close with several and I will be. Yeah, I'll

be out there with my angle grinder. I would encourage mass, mass removal of the surveillance state, because once it's there, you cannot remove it. I would happy to be arrested myself, so you know I won't be. I won't be when I go out and take their cameras down, which I will be doing, I won't be. I will be taking my phone with me so they know exactly where I am. I would happily sit there and go sit in and go who voted for this? What's your evidence for the

outer lon and clean air zone. What's your evidence for that? Why are you doing this? You know i'd sit there and do it, but I do that I've got, you know, several court cases go on his neck, but yeah, I would. So I think he knows what he's doing. I think he is doing this knowing that he's going to be arrested. And this is the issue. You know, we think about how do we how do we approach these things? There are certain things that are lines that

if you cross them, they will arrest you. For example, you know, we look at police dogs that are out there and even if they set the dogs on you, you entered that dog, they they come after you legally as if you had attacked a police officer or something. And the same thing is going to happen with these robot police that are now being rolled out in New York City and other places. You have these surveillance dialects. If you want to call him that, you know, the doctor who things is

what they look like. They don't shout danger, danger warning Will Robinson like the lost in spatialies. But you know, if you don't like these things and you kick them or vandalize them or something that they'll probably come after you as if you kick the police officer and if you declare that you're going to do that, and an open defiance of it. And I think he knows that he's not stupid. He knows that, and he wants to challenge that directly, and so hats off to him, you know, to take that

on directly, to challenge this directly. I hope that they have a better trial by jury system than we do here in the UK in the US, because again, the as we saw from the Trump judge, well I can do whatever I want. Well, juries don't know what they're talking about. And this is what we see from judges as they've shut down trial by jury. They lie to the jury's they say, well you don't. You're not there to judge the facts of the case or the law or how it's going

to be applied. You're not there to judge whether or not the uless cameras are correct. Your question is just was he going to damage these things? Was he conspiring to do it? I'm talking to other people in that type of thing. So if they're able to pull that same kind of game that they do here, he'll be courageous but he'll be a martyr at the same

time. To do that. I would like to see it establish a precedent where jury says, yeah, that's right, we don't like these things, and we're going to let people off if they want to tear him down. But that is I'm not sure if that's the world that we live in. I'm not sure if that's the judicial system that they're going to see there. It's very much like what he's talking about in terms of cutting the heads off

of these u LES surveillance cameras. It reminds me of the beginning of Cool Hand Luke or you see as the credits are rolling at the beginning of the film, you see a drunken Paul Newman who is out there with a like a pipe cutter and he's like staggering around and he's cutting the heads off of parking meters and everything. And he gets arrested and they sent him to jail for a considerable amount of time for the property damage that he did. And

he gets that's there and you know, what are you here for? And he says that cutting the heads off parking meter sir, And he goes, oh, what do you think that's going to get you, He said, I don't know, sir, what it's going to get you a couple of decades here in prison. And then of course that key seen from the movie where they are putting the handcuffs and the chains on his ankles and his feet,

which is really what these uless cameras are really about. They are hammering them in and that's what's happening right now as they're putting those cameras up, as they're enacting these restrictions against us. It's the handcuffs and the manacles that they're putting on us. Would you never stop listening to them clinging, because they're gonna remind you what I've been saying. You don't go, I wish you being so good to meet Cavin. Don't you ever talked that way to

me? Let up? What we've got here is failure communic Some man you just can't reach, that's right, and some men you just can't beat into submission. And I got an idea that Lawrence Fox is one of those men you can't beat into submission. Well, you have this case in Switzerland about

free speech. This is more typical of what we see happening a Swiss writer who called a journalist quote a fat lesbian unquote was sentenced to sixty days in prison, and the LGBT is plotting that, and so is the main stream media. And this woman is objectively a lesbian. She makes that very clear. She's an activist about that, so there's no question about that. Of course, fat is subjective and it's meant as an insult. So we're not

allowed to insult somebody. And I guess when you pull up one of the pictures there are the NBC News AP report from Information Liberation shows her picture, I guess the truth is no defense so at this, but again it's an insult. You're not allowed to insult people if they're politically connected or if their causes are those of the government. NBC News and the AP, as Information Liberation points out, are praising this jail sentence. This guy who said that

got sixty days in jail for calling this woman a fat lesbian. But again, you know, in this particular picture, she doesn't look like she's that heavy. But again it's all subjective and it fundamentally was an insult. So he gets sixty days in jail for insulting her. LGBT groups as NBC hailed the sixty eight jail sentence of a court in Switzerland gave to a writer and a commentator for writing a journalist as a fat lesbian, among many other critical

remarks. You know, we used to have really harsh things said about people, even during campaigns. People called Abraham Lincoln a nutmeg addict, among other things. They made fun of his physical appearance, and resident was actually a hatchet face. That's the son of a nutmeg dealer. That's right, that's right. Yeah, thank you for correcting me on that. That's You're exactly right, Travis, hatchet faced son of a nutmeg dealer, because that was

essentially a kind of a drug at the time. The AP goes on to say, this court decision is an important moment for justice and for rights of LGBTQI people in Switzerland. The conviction of Alain Sorel is a strong signal that homophobic hatred cannot be tolerated in our society. These are people who hate free speech because again, your ability to you should be able to say hateful things, even if I don't agree with that sentiment, even if I don't like

hearing hateful speech from people like Trump or other people. He should be allowed to say that, and it should not be a crime. It is only a crime if you hate speech. I don't know the AP was chiming in on this, and of course the AP has been famous for quite some time about having its own speech rules, So I'm not really exactly sure what terms the AP would like you to use for a fat lesbian that would be acceptable to them. On rock Fan, Chris m thank you very much for the

tip, he says, thanks for all you do, David. I'm a longtime listener, and I've listened. I've learned a lot from me. Well, thank you. Two favorite things that I've learned from you. Precedent Trump is right. This simple title summarizes Trump in just two words. I'm afraid that's just correct. And the term of guffin. I'd never heard of this term before you introduced it to me. I liked the term so well that I ordered a McGuff and T shirt from your website today. Well, thank

you very much. I have one here. I don't usually talk about merchandise, but here is the mcguffin T shirt, and you can see that in real real time. Here there we go. And so thank you very much. I appreciate that, and I'm proud of that design. By the way, I think for the love of the road, for the Trump chew toy that he sent to us and our dogs really do like this as well.

She can see he's missing two legs or one leg in an arm. And it's been a rough time here for Trump and in this the Night Household, but we have on multiplications thrown him to the dogs, both metaphorically and literally. So it really was a surprise to see that package where we opened for the arm was like, what is this this orange hair that was ticking up there? But on Rock fan, Chad Warren, thank you very much. I'm glad I finally started watching David's show after all this time. Well,

thank you, I appreciate that. Before we run out of time here, we've got about eight minutes left. I wanted to talk about what's going on with emmigration, and you may have seen that at the top of the Drudge Report last night. I think it popped up the fact that Biden is going to build a wall, and of course it'll be just as ineffective as Trump's wall was, and it's just as much of a dodge for the immigration problem, because that's not really getting to the fundamental aspect of it. And let's

talk about the fundamental aspect of it. I've always said that it's about the welfare magnet and what you can get when you come in. Well, of course, as we talked about the person who had all these people who were seated, they had been caught and they were going to be released by the US government. And so they're asking them of the reporters going down the line,

asking them in English and also in Spanish if necessary. But a lot of these people coming from Africa or from Asia, all these different places, but asking them, you know, where'd you come from and where are you going? Almost all of them are going to New York. Why, Well, because, like the bank robbers said, that's where the money is and that is where the nice hotels are for people. And so Babel and Bee had had a funny headline vacationing family poses as illegal immigrants to get a free

hotel room in New York City. Good evening. I mean, oh, la amiga, amigo, amigo has amiga. I guess I don't know. In nice Spanish, I guess one is gender related, right, How is that going to happen all these these languages like Spanish and German, so if you have to know the gender of something, they got to really be confused.

This goes way beyond pronouns for those people. Anyway, we're weary illegal immigrants looking for a top floor owner suite, preferably with a jacuzie away from the ice machine, poor Fovar. Feeling compassion for their plight, the hotel employee offered condolences to the Donaldson family for Governor Hockle's harsh words about illegal immigrants

coming to New York such ignorance, responded Missus Donaldson. You know, a little room service would go a long way toward healing the wounds some what do you Americans call them margaritas? Perhaps, Well, that's not too far away from the truth that we say happening there in New York. They're spending on these migrants between three hundred and five hundred dollars a night on hotel rooms.

That's one of the reasons why they're looking at a bill, a total tab because of the number of people, in the amount of money that they're spending, a bill of about four and a half billion dollars. And of course these rates that they have now negotiated with these hotel owners are in many cases twice twice what the hotel owners were paying we're charging for rooms before. Well, I tell you, those New York liberals drive a hard bargain, don't

they tell you what? We got this big contract and we're gonna you know, one of the hotels talking about this about three months ago. It's a hotel that was declaring bankruptcy because nobody other than illegal immigrants from other countries, you know, illegal aliens want to go there and get free stuff. But most people don't want to go to New York to vacation for so many reasons.

But you know it's after the lockdown. Everything they not recovered and things have, you know, a lot a lot of issues reasons that you would not want to go to New York City the past. People used to want to go for a Broadway. I don't know that's even opened up yet really, but anyway, they were going out of business, and then Eric Adams comes around. It's like, well, I will give you, like, you know, ninety percent occupancy guaranteed and we'll pay you twice of what you

were charging people before. Wow, you know that's driving a really hard bargain. If you're going to come in and give somebody full occupancy and pull them out of bankruptcy, you don't you think you'd negotiated price. But no, not these guys. And so this is the type of thing that is pulling people in. And there was about four hundred and fifty miles of wall that is there now at the border out of two thousand miles, and you know, those four hun and fifty miles, most of that was a repaired wall

that Trump did. He didn't really do anything new. So think of this in terms of, well, we've got a you know, we got a twenty foot wall here, but there's only four feet that actually have a wall. The rest of it is a big open walkway. The other sixteen feet is a big open walkway. That's what our border looks like. You know. So maybe got two feet on this side and two feet on that side, and then you got sixteen feet of an open walkway for people to come

right through. That's what our border looks like. After Trump's wall, you think it's going to get any better with Biden's wall, And of course you had the Department of Homeland Security come in and say, well, we've just waived all these environmental regulations, and I forget, it's like a like thirty different regulations. They just waved, why didn't Trump do that? Why didn't and again it's not going to stop anything. They said, well, we

have an emergency, this is this is something. We needed to do something about this immediately, says may Orcus at Homeland Security. And yet the only thing they could do would be, you know, set up some Concertino wire and put the military there at the border to defend our border for once, except that the Biden administration has been sending troops down to cut that Concertina wire

or whatever. There was a recent video by Michael Jahn who had interviewed he was now at the Darien Gap doing reports about how these traffickers, these NGO traffickers who charging people a fortune, or they're getting paid by Soro so other people like that, bringing them in and they're now indebted to them. Maybe they have to work in prostitution, or they bring these kids in or trial trafficking. But however they get there, they're coming into various places in Central

America and then they have to funnel through that Darien Gap. And so he was showing all the people coming in, but he had a picture of somebody in uniform and you see a big crowd of people on the other side of the concertina wire. And then this is an American official in uniform and he's got heavy gloves on and he's holding the wire and he's cutting it, and

there's a patch on his shoulder. And when I saw that, I don't know if there was an update to that to say where the guy was from, but Michael Jahn put that out and he says, so who is this? You know what is this patch? Anybody recognize this patch? And you know what group or organization or branch of the military. You're a border patrol or you know what bureaucracy is this guy part of? Now we need to

know what's going on. And quite frankly, it has gotten so bad now that Biden is going to talk about building a wall, but it's just talk. If you've got the welfare magnet, you're going to pull people over it, under it, through it, around it. That's why they're coming in. And you've got to stop that welfare magnet. The wall is ever much every bit as much of a distraction as a beard as a headfake, as it always was with Donald Trump. But isn't it interesting that Biden is now

resorting to that. Of course, you know, the JAB was bad until he became president, and then it was a good thing and he mandated it. And of course maybe he sees an opportunity to build a wall around us, because that's what Ron Paul always said. To be careful about that wall. It can keep you in a country as well. Thanks for listening. The David Night Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Night Show, please do your part and

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