28Nov23 David Knight Show UNABRIDGED

Using free speech to free minds. You are listening to the David Night Show. As the clock strikes thirteen, it's Tuesday, the twenty eighth of November, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty three. Well, today we're going to take a look at budgets. What did Trump due to our deficit?

What did he do to capitalism in general? Joining us in the third hour is going to be David Stockman. He was Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget and he has been a fiscal hawk, we would, So we're going to talk to him about what happened in the Trump administration and why are people still supporting this guy. But we're going to begin by talking about

the news and taking a look at government theft. We have updates as to what is happening with vaccines and how we see in establishing a tyranny of vaccinations, as well as return of the pandemic in China, which is not really as surprise as it. We'll be right back. I say it's not really a surprise because we know that this is always about a dictatorship, wasn't it. It was always about medical martial law, and if it is about a

dictatorship, that's a real China virus. The world became China in twenty twenty, and Trump was right there from the very beginning. And so we understand that the Chinese are never going to stop this as long as they've got that current form of government, and as long as we've got our current form of government, that tyranny is not going to stop here either. But I want to begin by a couple of messages that were up yesterday we did not get to at the very end of the program. First of all, I want

to thank Wayne Wonder and thank you for the tip. And he said, pray that our pastors get involved. Where is the church and this spiritual war? That's right. It is a spiritual war, isn't it. And we're to be involved in all aspects of life. There's not one aspect of life that God does not have jurisdiction in. So we have something to say about

politics. We don't want we don't want the government to ally itself with any particular religion because and that'll be the government will take over that religion, whatever it is, and then use it to impose out on everybody else, which is what they're doing with the LGBT stuff. And the Green religion and other things like that, secular humanism. But we have something to say, and that is part of our free exercise of our religion, the free exercise of

our speech. Audi mrr also said JFK is a secret that the establishment no longer cares to hide any current narratives or just another distraction. I completely agree with that, and I mentioned that yesterday because I thought it was funny that Rob Reiner is now going to do a documentary after all this time, sixty years and he says he's got the names of the people who were shooters and so forth. So now it's important for us to take a look at it

because they want us to not look at what they're doing. That's the key distraction, I think is the reparations of slavery stuff, the colonizer issues and things like that, because they want us focused on slavery of centuries ago, so we don't see the slavery that is being put on us right now, the chains that are being put on us right now at this moment. But I want to begin with, yeah, we're going to have as they said. David Stockman, who was Director of the Office of Management and Budget,

who was a congressman before that, he's been involved in economic issues. Ron Paul speaks very highly of him. He's been involved with Amesa's Institute and so forth. A fiscal conservative. And so we're going to be talking about economic issues and what they look like during the Trump administration, what they might look like in a second Trump administration. But in the first Reagan administration, remember

he was going to get rid of the Department of Education. The Department of Education was created by Jimmy Carter in that election year of nineteen eighty and Reagan said he was going to get rid of it. Well, he didn't get rid of it, and now the guy who is in charge of it, and it really expanded. It was a brand new baby birth under under Jimmy Carter, and Reagan did not get rid of it. But the guy who

is now head of the Department of Education, the Secretary of Education. Cardona had this to say about Reagan. You know, we're going to set up follow up calls with every governor we met with to make sure we're available. As I think it was President Reagan said, we're from the government. We're here to help. There are resources there, there's technical assistance there, and there's a playbook that could support the work you're doing. Count on us as

a partner in this. Our students are waiting. Thank you. Yeah, count us as a partner in this. We're here to help. We've got money. We've got money to bribe, course, cajole you. That's what we do as the government. That's the way the government does everything. The Department of Education, well, you know, we got money, but we'd like for you to teach this sixteen nineteen project. We'd like you put boys

in the girl's bathroom and things like that. And if you don't do that, we're going to pull that money that you got used to and dependent upon them. We're going to pull that away from you, so we create dependency. We have an unlimited amount of Fiat money that we can print, and we're going to use that to course and the blackmail to bribe people. That's the way they do everything. And it was astounding to me that conservatives could

not see that during the Trump administration, during the vaccine rollout. You don't understand how this works and understand how the lock to Oh no, it's the Democrats. It's the Democrat governors who are doing it to us. No, it's coming from the Trump administration, it's coming from the bribery and then the blackmail under Biden. But this is actually what Reagan said. You know, he said, well, you know, Reagan said that I'm from the government

and I'm here to help you. No, actually, the Secretary of Education is profoundly ignorant. And I say ignorant because he was. You know, he didn't he wouldn't set himself up for this kind of ridicule if he knew anything about it. But this is what Reagan actually said about the government being here to help you. I think you all know that I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm

here to help. Yeah, the nine most terrifying words in the English language. I'm from the government and I'm here to help. But he says, hey, the government is here to help you. We got cash, no limit to the amount of cash. And of course we have seen this as they locked us down, told us we were non essential, stole our you know, shut down, install our jobs, stall our businesses that many people had worked on. And David Stockman, he's going to be our guest leader

to this is not. Well, we'll be talking a little bit about this, but we'll be talking about his new book, talking about Washington's fiscal doomsday machine, and he says the four year cumulative deficit has now reached nine trillion dollars in just four years. Because you know, they're from the government and they're here to help us. Trump was helping everybody with those stimulus checks, helping you with a problem that he created. We locked everybody down. Was

anybody dying? Was there a pandemic? No, they didn't even claim at that point in time that people were dying. They said they're going to die trying to lock down without anybody dying. He had four or five deaths, as Jocelynt he loves to point out, And this is a pandemic in a country of one and a half billion people, and you're going to lock it all down because you've got fewer than ten deaths. And of course we didn't have that many when Trump locked us down. But he's from the government,

he's here to help. He's going to give you a helping hand, stimulus check and all the rest of this. Well, what does this look like during the last four hundred and sixty one days for school year twenty twenty through twenty twenty three, the government has generated six point two billion dollars of red ink each and every day, including weekends and holidays and snow days, says Document. For anybody who's keeping score at home, that's four point two million

dollars of red ink per minute. Four point two million dollars per minute. It's just hard to get your head around numbers that are trillions, right. And by the way, while we're talking about trillions, you know, we're talking about trillions of dollars. That's four million, six six billion dollars a day, the nine trillion dollars four point two million dollars a minute. And

think about what they used to scare everybody these PCR tests. They magnified the stuff by one point one trillion times with magne and fight our debt my nine trillion. For the purposes of perspective, here's how long it took to generate the first nine trillion dollars of US government debt. It took all of forty three presidents and two hundred and nineteen years to reach nine trillion dollars in public debt in July two thousand and seven. So the national debt clock has now

accelerated into hyperdrive. It's one of the reasons why Thomas Massy's got the clock. But they said, Lapel, that's constantly running up. And he said, look at this, Look at this crazy trick that they played, that the Biden administration played, and this is why they always cook the numbers.

And I said that, you know, they cook the numbers when it comes to debt, they cook the numbers when it comes to inflation, they cook the numbers when it comes to unemployment, and of course they cook the numbers when it came to the pandemic. But he says, take a look at

this budgetary mickey mouse trick that they pull. He said, the federal deficit for fiscal year twenty twenty three clocked in it over two trillion dollars, but they posted it and reported it as one point four trillion dollars last year and

one point seven trillion dollars this year. And he says, the Wall Street Journal currently rather recently explained that the comparison is misleading because what they did was they took a three hundred and eighty billion dollar budgetary shuffle between the two years. Sleepy Joe's student debt cancelation got recorded as a cost in September of twenty twenty two, but when it got canceled by the courts and fiscal year of

twenty twenty three, they turned it into a savings, a savings. Well, this is what they always do. This is why I said, you know, you have even Michael Johnson, the new Conservative quote unquote Speaker of the House, said well, and prior to him, Kevin McCarthy, you know, Biden wanted eighty billion dollars to expand the IRS, which currently has a budget of thirteen billion. So he wanted another eighty billion over that. And McCarthy said, no, no, no, we're going to We're going

to cut that. And so he says, we'll only give it sixty billion, and then Michael Johnson says, well, we're going to cut it by fourteen sorry trillion, trillion sorry billion, Yeah, we're going to cut it by fourteen billion because we want to give that money to Israel. They didn't cut anything, right, they're still giving you know, forty six trillion, still forty six billion dollars more to an agency that currently has a budget a

total budget of thirteen billion dollars that's what they mean by a cut. And so he says, we don't use the mickey mouse epithet lightly, and surely, booking the next fifty years a student loan repayments during a single month of August twenty twenty three amounts to exactly that. Still, the Biden thing behind the teleprompter has the audacity to keep making the hideous claim that he's been slashing

the federal deficit. He says, so, you know, the world is on the verge of breaking out into a hot war in the Middle East. Ukraine is hanging by a thread, both of them owing to the Neocon perfidy of the last several decades. So the one point three trillion dollars of the comprehensive national security budget is going nowhere except up, way up. And so then you look at so that's the warfare side of it, look at the

welfare side. He said, it looks like Trump's got a lock on the Republican nomination, and he's made it clear he's not going to touch Social Security or Medicare. And he says, understand that trillions of those benefits are just pure transfer payments. They're not a return of money that people have paid over their working lifetimes, and so he says that's going to be thirty four true

million dollars over the next decade. And so when you look at the Social Security, Medicare and the defense budget with all the wars, that is massive. But he says, even when you look at the pork in the small amount less than fifteen percent of the budget, that is called non defense discretionary spending. So it's it's a discretionary spending. It's not the Defense department.

It's not entitlements that has gone from Obama's last budget and fiscal year twenty seventeen, that's exploded from six hundred billion to nearly nine billion, eight hundred and ninety five billion, So it grew by fifty percent during Trump during Trump. And that's not tied to the entitlement state. That's not tied to the defense budget. That's just the other stuff, the other stuff, the small stuff.

So he says, we are in financial la la land. And so I guess maybe it'll be Lala Harris as the next president if they get their way on the fiscal year twenty twenty. He said, the nine trillion dollar public debt explosion on the eve of that. Rather, the federal debt held by the public had already more than tripled before that even happened. Then came

the nine trillion dollars. And what was even more interesting is, he points out, is the fact that even though they expanded the federal debt by nine trillion dollars, that massive amount that took centuries to get to, the actual debt servicing, what they've had to pay in terms of interest on that debt actually went down because of what the Federal Reserve was doing, and so there was no it was an easy payment plan. Trump loaded us up with debt.

Trump, Obama, and of course Biden as well. They loaded us up with that nine trillion dollars. Actually that came after Obama. It's just Trump and Biden. And there was no cost really to pay for that because the interest rates a artificially low. Now, now the chickens are coming home to roost. Now they're raising the interest rates, and a painful reality is

beginning to assert its stuff. He says, in this context, the core economic policy platform of the Washington GOP is a tail that is straight out of fantasy land. Even as they want more for the warfare state and are loudly taking a powder on the welfare state. They still feel compelled to demand that Trump tax cuts be permanently extended when they expire in twenty twenty five. And of course those are tax cuts primarily for the biggest corporations. So what do

you do? What do you do as an individual? Wells He points out, there's not much you can do to change this trajectory yourself, but you can stay informed and you can try to protect yourself prepare for what's going to happen. And as I said, you know, we have Tony arter beIN supports this program. He set up David Knight dot Gold. The thing about Gold is that it is a double protection. It's a double protection from this

kind of fiscal meltdown. It's a protection against the CBDC surveillance and control, which, by the way, both Trump and Biden support. Biden has put together his plan for doing it. You've got Elizabeth Warren who is leading the charge to try to outlaw crypto it's a competitor and so forth. But during the Trump administration, he got a head start with Manucha the Goldman Sacks banker that Trump put in at the head of the Treasury and with his son in

law, Jared Kushner, they were already starting CBDC. This is a professional wrestling tag team match. They just hand this stuff off from one to the other and it continues to go down the same path. But take a look

at what has happened. Let's talk about the theft of government. You know, King Charles, the man formerly known as Prince, is now using a medieval law, a kind of feudal law, to grab up the property of people who die in some corporations that are dissolved, people who die without a will, and he's gotten tens of millions of dollars personally off of that. It truly is amazing. Charles, formerly known as Prince, is using has made tens of millions of pounds they should say dollars. This is supposed to

be charity. It's coming from the death of thousands of Brits to upgrade his real estate empire. The phrase that they use is bona thecantia, and so this is supposed to be vacant goods is what it means in the Latin terms, property that's owned by people who died without a will or without a known next of ken. And he's taking this money, he said, well, we'll use it for charity purposes. But he's using it to upgrade his personal

rental properties and other things like that, and to upgrade his castles. In the past ten years, he's reportedly collected more than seventy five million dollars in funds like this, despite pledges to donate all proceeds to charity, he has used this to renovate properties that he rents out for profit. And there's a couple of different duchies duchies that he's got and that the royal family has. One of them is owned by Prince William, who is the next in line,

and he is also operating under this system. Both of these duchies operate as real estate empires. They control vast tracks of farmland, hotels, castles, offices, warehouses, businesses and some of London's most expensive real estate. See ultimately, we're going back to this feudal system where you own nothing and they own everything. Neither of them pays any corporate income tax, neither of

them pays any capital gains tax. In spite of the fact they made more than one point six billion dollars over the last six decades, only fifteen percent of the money has gone to charity over the last ten years, even though that's what it's supposedly earmarked for. Instead, what he did was he changed the rules while Elizabeth was queen to make sure that this is going to be

money that used for the quote unquote public good. They said they're going to repair and protect Duchy properties that he owns, deeming them as a heritage asset. I guess the king is something of a heritage asset. Just take off the last part of that last word. The Guardian found that the Duchy was permitted to burn its Bonavicantia earnings on roughly half of its property portfolio after repairs like renovating walls, foundations for chimneys, as well as electrical and insulation work.

And these are things that he is renting out as holiday rentals, country cottages, barns, some of them are used for pheasant and partridge shoots. But you know, hey, that's you've got to have some fun, right if you are it's good to be the king, you can do that type of thing. So he has garnered more than ten million, tens of millions and pounds and profits each year from this revenue. That Buckingham Palace has said

is private. And when zero Heade reported this, they filled their article with pictures of Charles grinning and celebrating and having fun with such stellar characters as Jeffrey Epstein and Jimmy Savell, the known pedophiles, and that is you know what their oral family is truly about. It's haipening off tens of millions of dollars and partying with he as well as Prince Andrew with Jeffrey Epstein. But we have a different way of doing that here in the United States. Don't think

that this is something that's just British. We have come up with something that's even worse. We have something called civil asset forfeiture, where they don't wait for you to die, they don't wait for you to be convicted of a crime, they don't wait for you to even be charged with a crime. They just steal your property. And so isn't it great that our federal government has instituted this system and that we have various jurisdictions around the country that have

really weaponized this against their own people. Well, the worst ones is Harris County in Texas where Houston is and there is a lawsuit about that right now. As The New American points out, there's also been a lawsuit up in Detroit. Sixth Circuit Corps has weighed in on that. So what is happening. Let's take a look at what one of these cases actually looks like.

In twenty nineteen, Harris County in Houston, Texas, police confiscated over forty two thousand dollars from a Mississippi man who was driving to Houston by a semi truck. Four years later, having kept the cash while filing no criminal charges against the man, the county faces a class action lawsuit challenging their civil action civil asset forfeiture. The Institute for Justice, which has been involved in this as well as the case in Detroit, it says Harris County has one of

the most abusive forfeiture programs in the country. They have police out specifically looking for cash. They have police looking for cars that can be seized, and guess what, they find cash, and they find cars and they steal them. They're also pretty bad in Houston about tickets and also with lockdown as one of the worst places. Uh. Lena Hildalgo, it was not an American, she might be naturalized now I guess, but she came from another country,

Central South America. She went to Harvard and she was made some connections there and she's been on the fast track and she is the executive of Harris County and she was ruthless during lockdown. I really hated going to that place. I had had a dentist that I had some work done on there and it was not complete. And I travel all the way to Houston and then they hassled me during this lockdown stuff and told me I needed to put on

a mask to come into the office. And I said, no, I'm going to be setting there in my mouth that's going to be wide open the entire time. Don't tell me I got to put a mask on to get in your office. And we had a big fight about that. Eventually they gave in. I started threatening to sue them. Anyway, the seized cash and other belongings are put on trial. No, that's not what happens. That's what Fox News says. There is no trial, there is no due

process. They take the cash, they take the car, and they do the due process later. No, they don't do any due process, you know, just like Trump and his red flag laws. Just steal stuff. That's what our government does. Is it really any different from Prince Charles? King Charles? And so the seized cash is charged with a crime. The inanimate object, whether it is a car or a house, or cash or jetplane. It's the US government versus this, you know, thousand dollars or

forty two thousand dollars or lear jet serial numbers such and such. No criminal conviction is required. They just steal it. This is again, there's nothing criminal about us. Why they call it civil. They call it civil because they pretend that if it's a rule created by unelected bureaucrats, then it's not a law, and so it can't be criminal. And so therefore you have no presumption of innocence, you have no due process, you'd have no protection

against excessive fines. Forty two thousand dollars because he had cash, they took it. The planet is in the case a couple of people who are married. A truck driver who's looking to expand his business by buying a used truck from a dealer in Houston. He was driving through Harris County May of twenty nineteen. He was stopped by the police allegedly for driving too close to a tractor trailer, which he disputes having done so. Like I said, traffic

comps in Houston a horrible. According to the complaint, a sergeant Wade asked the person driving Woods if he had any weapons in the vehicle, to which Woods truthfully responded that he had a loaded gun tucked under the seat and the center console. Next, Wade asked Woods to step out of the vehicle and

talk to him and his partner, which he did. Woods claims to have answered all of the officer's questions, truthfully, telling them the purpose of his trip and alerting them to the forty two three hundred dollars in cash that he was carrying, which consisted of his own savings and a loan from his niece. Then he made the mistake of consenting to a search of his vehicle and

lo and behold, they found the money. Although he was able to confirm woods account via telephone call, he confiscated the cash anyway, police officer did, He said, I think this money is connected to drugs. Oh, yeah, he would think that, Wouldney, Yeah, he would say that. After that, the officers gave him a quote citizen's Info card. They've got a whole little system here, stating simply that a currency seizure of no specific amount had taken place. They don't even specify the amount. They didn't

fill that in. Then they sent this dangerous drug criminal on his way without even taking his gun, because hey, you got forty two thousand dollars based on an affidavit claiming that the police dog later detected the odor of narcotics on his money. And of course, you know they found that because cash is moving around for decades. They said, you know, you can get a dog to alert to any cash because he's got traces of drugs on it.

Because it's constantly moving around. Doesn't mean that the person who is currently in possession of the money has used any drugs, but you know it's got the odor of narcotics on it according to the dog. Well, I think these cops have the order odor of thievery about them, don't you. They smell like thieves to me. They certainly act like them. And so they signed an affidavit by an officer who was not at the scene of the seizure,

and then the county proceeded with its forfeiture case. Woods meanwhile, got no word at all about this for twenty seven months over two years. When he finally got a letter about it, he responded in writing twice, only be met with silence. This May, four years after his money was taken, the Institute of Justice argued in civil court that Harris County should have to return it. By the jury sided with the prosecutors, ruling out, ruling that

law enforcement had probable cause to believe the money was contraband. Prosecutors celebrated the win and wrote a press release saying that Woods have been quote paid to transport the money to Houston to purchase illegal narcotics, and then transport the drug back to Mississippi. Of course, as the Institute Justice says, they didn't prove it. They didn't even attempt to prove it. They couldn't identify a person that was going to buy the drugs from. They couldn't tell us what drugs.

They couldn't tell us what amount that he had sold the drugs in the past, or if he'd done so. Since pure conjecture, the jury, however, that convicted him, may imagine that that a jury would convict somebody that did not get the last word at and typically they don't have a jury trial. That's what I find most unusual about this. The Institute Justice claims

a complaint. After the complaint, they looked at one hundred and thirteen Harrison County civil forfeiture petitions, so once they file the lawsuit, they can do discovery. In discovery, they looked at one hundred and thirteen of these thefts that they call civil forfeiture. They found that every single one of them was based on an affidavit that was signed by somebody who wasn't even present at the time the money was stolen by the police. So they are filing another lawsuit

about this, they said. Harris County officials have asked a district court judge to dismiss the case, but earlier this month he rejected the immunity claim and allowed the constitutional challenge to proceed. As a matter of fact, we've got a picture of one of these civilis set forfeiture cases here. I think it's a cop carb Ever, Krispy Kreme done nothing, and I'm sure that it's got a lot of white pownd on it that they could suspect was cocaine or

something. They probably could get a dog to alert to that. I don't know they earned that kind of ridicule. Quite frankly, these are crooked cops. It's a crooked system. It's the system based on theft, and it's a racket. In Detroit, their civilized set forfeiture racket has been flagged by the sixth at court there they said that after these cops steal your property they have especially there it was cars, and we see in Detroit what they're typically

doing is typically going after cars. They are not high value, you know, they're around one thousand, two thousand dollars or older cars, and they've got to process set up here where if you want to challenge it, so they're going to take your car, and then you have to sue them, right because and you don't have presumption of innocence. You've got to prove that you're innocent, and so you have to take civil action against them because they

pretend that they're not acting as the government under color of law. And so

to begin that process, you have to give them nine hundred dollars. So they're stealing a bunch of cars that are valued not much more than nine hundred dollars, and then you have to pay for towing and you have to pay for storage fees the entire time that is there, they're just going around stealing poor people's cars in Detroit, and because they know that they don't have the money to fight it, and then they've loaded it with these fees on the

front end. So the Sixth Circuit Court has said, there were many of these people having to wait for two years. Imagine what storage fees are beyond for two years. Well, okay, you can sue us, but you have to pay the nine hundred dollars the towing fees. And then while we're waiting for the thing to come to trial, you're going to have to pay storage fees. And it's not going to come to trial for two years. So the Sixth Circuit Court says, no, you're going to have to do

this within two weeks. Two weeks, which is still not good enough. They should not be able to steal people's property without having a conviction, right. This is essentially a pre conviction for aiture of assets. It's theft. I used to always tell the kids growing up, talk about Lysander Spooner who said government is no different than a highway robber boy. What would he say

if he saw this today? He said, the key difference is that a highway robber will steal your property on the road like the police are doing now, but the government will steal your property and follow you down the road nagging you. Lysander Spooners at that back in the eighteen hundreds. And so we're

going to take a quick break and we'll come back. We're going to talk about the delusion of some of these trans influencers who are now suddenly as the LGBT and BLM and all these progressives now have found a new cause in Palestine. They are now enamored with the Qur'an and with Islam. And you've even got LGBT people who are saying that they love the Qoran. Well, the

Quran does not love them. We'll be right back. If you like the Eagles, the cars, and Huey Lewis in the news, they say the you'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio, download our app or listen now at APS radio dot com. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Well, as I said, we've got a lot of training influencers who have now discovered Islam and the Koran, and they're pushing it so excited about it and of course, some people remind them, you know, they toss homosexuals

off the rooftops. These people are at their phrase marks, he said. The capitalists will sell the rope they used to hang them. I guess these people will sell this religion of peace that will be used to throw them off of the rooftops. And yet here in the United States we are now have a move to push to have government funding of news outlets. And I know what you're saying, aren't they already paying them, aren't they already telling them

what to do? And haven't they already worked this out somewhere in the back. Well, no, that's at the national level. They want to get their hooks into the local papers that are folding at a very rapid rate. And so in the sense of saying, well, we have to support local news outlets, they are going to put them on the doll so they can control them, just like the Department of Education controls local schools. With Washington

money. A top journalism school is pushing the idea of taxpayer funding of reporters and media. I guess you know, at the local level, they're not funded maybe by the big pharmaceutical companies, but they are still we have. I guess they could get news guard involved, right, We've got to guard the news. We've got to guard the elections. So let's get local news

papers on the dole from the federal government. But Elizabeth Warren is concerned primarily about sandwich shop monopolies, not about a monopoly of news, but about sandwich

shop monopolies. And so this woman who is now pushing a monopoly for currency, the CBDC saying that we've got to shut down crypto anything that conflicts with it, is now saying, well, since the owner of Jimmy Johns, who now owns Arby's as well, he's just bought Subway, And so she's very concerned that all of these fast food outlets are going to be monopolized. Seriously, Yeah, that's what she's really worried about. But nothing to worry

about with the monopolization of the money. And of course I don't really know what the carbon footprint is of the fast food Is it really really meat? What is in these sandwiches here that they have to worry about it. But she is concerned that there's going to be what she calls a sandwich shop monopoly. We don't need another private equity deal that could lead to higher food prices. And yet these are the people who want to restrict what you eat.

These are the people who want to put additional restrictions and taxes and fees on all energy and all food demand certain types of food. But that's what she has focused on. Finally, let's talk a little bit about artificial intelligence and are they going to be able to establish a monopoly on music. I came across this and I thought it was really What caught my eye was the name

of this AI program. It's called Anna Indiana. It sounds like another song, but here is this cringy music program that brags edit wrote the lyrics, wrote the melody, wrote the chord progressions, and then of course you have this plastic looking character who is singing it to you see what you think as an AI singer songwriter. Everything from the key, tempo, chord progression, melody notes, rhythm, lyrics and my image and singing is auto generated using

AI. I hope you like it, and they're showing you the code here where you can enter the genre that you'd like. And the mood. I guess it's a depressive mood that she's got here. My favorite cafe, zipping might tea. It's Saturday, thinking about all he's done to everyone. This town is full of broken dreams, shattered hopes, and silent screams. Somebody, please the trade by this town. Let's tear it all down. Please just tastined to fall. I've lost it all the trade by this town.

Okay, this artificial intelligence seems to be very depressed. Maybe should get it some SSR. Or maybe not. Maybe it'll kill everybody if we give it. That's sorry. But yeah, this this town is just awful. Everything is awful. Quite Frank, I think it got the kind of the music feel that's there. It really sounds like a contemporary Christian, doesn't it, Travis. I mean it was really awful and very cringey. But like I said, the thing that caught my eye about that was the name Anna Indiana.

Like it's got a certain ring to it, you know, And uh, of course it reminded me of the song that little Opie Cunningham did in the music Man, Gary Indian, Gary Indian, Gary Indiana. That's the town that knew me. When you like have allection, Oh yeah, yeah, that's a I was only a year. I was a year younger than that little Opie Cunningham when that movie came out, and you hear him going through a great deal of effort to try to sound like he's got a lisp

and spitting in the lady's face as he's singing that. You know, he got better over time. You know I got better as Opie. And but yeah, I saw The Music Man. That was a real seminal movie in my life when I was very young, like I said, a year younger than him, and I wanted to get in ban after that, even even in spite of that, even in spite of that, I was a year younger than him, and that was a cringey performance, kind of like Shane when I showed that Western to my son, so I said, this is

a great Western. You gotta see Shane, and that kid that was just ruined it for them when they were little kids and they could not watch that Western and get into it. But you know, you know, Ron Howard almost ruined The Music Man for me, but not quite. It was a It was a great musical. And I always mentioned this, Karen laughs, because I always thought I've mentioned it before on the show. How Meredith Wilson,

the guy who wrote it. I wrote The Music Man was there at the grand opening of Walt Disney World when I was in high school, and I was just devastated because he's going to be conducting the biggest marching band ever and the guy who wrote The music Man was going to be conducting seventy six trombones and everything else as part of the opening ceremony. And I didn't get to go. All my other friends did. They didn't have any sexes in the the things like what's going on with that? Can he can he cut

me some slack? I mean, you know, he was in John Phillips SUS's band, but he played piccolo, and he's got to understand that. You know, some of us are playing instruments that don't get that kind of respect. You know, he'd semonize of that. But maybe it was a little from Disney. We don't know. I'll take a quick break and we will be right back, and we're going to talk about what is happening with politics and elections. We'll be right back. You're listening to The David Knight

Show, Elvis A Beetle and the Sweet Sounds of Motown. Find them on the Oldies Channel at aps radio dot Com. Okay, let's talk about something serious here. We have a man who was charged with murder after he shot his unborn after he shot his wife, and the unborn child died. And so when you look at this and you say, well, is this uh, is it really murdering? We see this happening all the time. And

she survives, she's in intensive care, but the baby died. And these people are recent to migrants into the United States, and so they're from India. And this is supported by an Indian news outlet. They said, and this I thought was a very interesting thing I had not seen before. They said. Violence during pregnancy is very common. According to the American College of

Obstetricians and Gynecologists, over three hundred thousand pregnant women experienced domestic abuse. Furthermore, it's a well known statistic that homicide is a leading cause of death for women during pregnancy, being killed because somebody doesn't want them to have the baby when they could just take it to planned planned parent who would kill the baby

for them. Yeah. In fact, women are more likely to be murdered during pregnancy than they are to die from the three leading obstetric causes of death. High blood pressure, disorders, hemorrhage, and and yet it is murder that is happening. And yet this lady was not killed, but the baby was, and so they're going to come after the father for boarding the baby. And then you have a teen girl whom sixteen years old. I guess

she didn't know that she could get the baby murdered by planned parenthood. Nobody had told her that, I guess. And her parents called the police because they said something, there's been an attack on our grandson. They found they said their grandson had been hurt. When the police got there, they said there was blood everywhere, and the sixteen year old has now been charged with

first degree murder with a deadly weapon. The baby was born, and they she gave birth to the healthy baby, and then she took a knife to it to cut its throat so deeply that she went through the windpipe and then continued to stab the baby. And so there was blood everywhere. And when I talked to my son about it, he said, well, that's not really any worse, maybe not as worse as what they do to the babies when they abort them, tearing them limb from limb. You know, when

you look at torture by some of these English kings. They had a practice they called it drawn and quartering. They did that to William Wallace. What they would do is to cut them up in pieces, and they would cut out their bowels, and they would cut off their arms and legs, and eventually they would behead them. But they wanted to prolong the process. They

went to make it as painful as possible. I thought, well, it's actually did they get the idea for this, for the way they do abortions from drawing and quartering, Because that's really what they do to the children, And yet that is legal. Isn't that amazing? You've got two murder cases here and yet this is legal. It was a grandfather who found his grandson stuffed into an empty dog food bag in his daughter's closet. He also later

located the weapon taken from the kitchen earlier in the day. The police report said a large pool of blood on the carpet and blood smeared on the walls an execution. But isn't it interesting how we draw the line legally on these executions. Meanwhile, you have the minority leader, Hakim Jeffrey's a Democrat in the House, who if the Democrats get the majority, he would be the Speaker of the House and Hakim's Jeffries said there should be no abortion restrictions,

period, full stop. He said, no abortion restrictions. So why are we punishing this father, why are we punishing this mother for killing babies? Well, perhaps the Democrats would allow that as well. He said, this should be a choice between a woman and a doctor. Was it a choice for the Democrats between a woman and a doctor, or a man and his doctor, or a child and the family physician when it came to vaccination. Of course not. These people are such lying hypocrites. There's no choice that

they want you to have about anything except killing your child. And I said this way before we had the mandated vaccines and all the rest of stuff. They just proved it in spades. And yet they are still using that line and people are still going for it. So he said, this should be a choice between a woman and a doctor, period, full stop. Not these extreme politicians. This should be a healthcare decision that a woman should be able to make to kill a child. But of course, no decision about

whether or not you were going to abort a baby. And as lifestyte News points out the Supreme Court Dobb's decision was not a pyrrhic victory. Tens of thousands of lives have been saved from abortion since then. In the first half of twenty twenty three, states with abortion bands had an average fertility rate that was two point three percent higher than states where abortion was not restricted. Abortion activists, as you might expect to see this rise and the birth rate as

a negative thing. And of course there would be people like Gates in the Bush family who have always been a part of Planned Parenthood their family. They come from families that are deeply embedded in that. Bill Gates as well as the Bush clan. George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott Bush, was a treasurer for Margaret Singer. His name is on the letterhead of the very first fundraiser done by Planned Parenthood and Margaret Singer when they were explicitly eugenicists.

That's where the Bushes come from. That helps to explain a lot of things like Terry Chavo and other things like that. It also is interesting to know that as Jeb Bush was making a big case, big point about restricting money from the state of Florida to Planned Parenthood. The Bush family personally made up the difference that he cut, and then some CNN explicitly stated that the rising birth rate is evidence that abortion is necessary. They said, and in

their story, pull my backup, Travis, that article. Look at that picture that they've got there. That's the picture that CNN puts up. They put up a picture of a baby's foot with footprints in it and everything else, and you see the tiny baby in the background as they're arguing to kill this baby. Their choice of photo for the article was actually the tiny foot of a newborn baby. They said. Earlier research has found that there are

many consequences of unintended birth. Well, you know, there are consequences to unintended consequences to sex. Sometimes that's where this all begins. In case we can still remember that says these consequences affect the health and the livelihood of the mother, the child, and the family in general. Well so does abortion.

See An n warned that abortion bands have been especially affected Hispanic women a four point seven percent increase and toty rate in the first half of twenty twenty three, as well as younger women with a three point three percent increase amongst those in their early twenties. They see that as a problem because they are depopulationists. All these people are. And so it's kind of interesting to see that there's so many celebrities that are suddenly talking about how they aborted their children.

Some of them regret it, but you know, if they had it to do over again, they probably would do it. And when you get the sense as they're talking about it, but isn't it interesting now that they it's it's something that they can talk about. And essentially so Paris Hilton said when she was twenty two years old in her recent autobiography, I guess you should call it My Life so far because she's not that old. And her memoir Harris, she said, when she was twenty two years old, she

had an abortion and was it about money? I mean she could not. You know, CNN is selling this is like, look at the consequences that it has for people, and you know, how are they going to be able? You know, you're going to have to support this kid for eighteen years? Do you realize how much that's going to cost you? That's and they total up what it would cost for a kid eighteen years as if you've got to pay it right now, you can't afford this kid. That's the

way they sell abortions at Planned parenthood. She now writes that she looked back and all this with sorrow, even though I know I made the right choice, she said. But then she said, I had thoughts like what if I killed my paris? But she's still certain that quote I was in no way capable of being a mother, and denying that would have jeopardized the forever family that I hoped to have in the future at a time when I was

healthy and healed. Years later, she would purchase that family, says life site News, via rounds in vitro fertilization and the rented womb of a surrogate, and many tens of thousands of dollars later, she had a son. She doesn't say how many of his siblings died during the process. But of course, you know she does not regret the decision. She had some second thoughts about it. Then you have Actress Carrie Washington released an autobiography. She

uses her personal experience to advocate for abortion. She said, you know, life is complicated, and so she said, I never imagined that I would be in an abortion clinic, surrendering quote surrendering my insights to a surgical vacuum. Except she didn't surrender her inside. She surrendered a baby. And so, as Lifesight News points out aboarded children or ghosts that lurk on the margins of these memoirs, they still think about that. Comedian Leslie Jones of Saturday

Night Live published her memoir Leslie Fing Jones, a Memoir September. Proudly Childless. She has launched many viral tirades against pro life legislators. She has pictures where she's wearing a shirt with an arrow pointing down in the word mine across it. She writes that she had three abortions between the ages of eighteen and

twenty seven, and that she was using it as birth control. She said, without aborting those three babies, perhaps she would have never become a TV comedian who makes, as they point out, angry jokes about laws protecting babies from abortion. But the trade off was clearly worth it to her, she says. Finally, Britney spears, as we've always talked about talking about what a difficult time it was a boarding her baby with one of these abortion pills

and that was the thing that really turned Abby Johnson around. What a horrific experience it was for them. And I'm not talking about the fact that they are there to see the child that they aboarded, but the pain of it. And Abby Johnson said she thought she was going to die, and she was running an abortion clinic and now she's one of the big opponents of abortion. And it was a horrific thing for Britney Spears. And yet that is

where they're focusing their efforts now. They want women to be able to do an abortion by pill without having an examination to determine the age of the baby, or the size of the baby, or where they're not it's even going to be safe for the mother, because these people just want to kill. If they get the mom, that's fine with them as well. Quite frankly,

they're not about women's health at all. Inadvertently, each of these abortions memoirs tell us something profound about our culture, not that abortion is normal, but why it's normal, Because we're so broken that we have forgotten basic facts about what it means to be mothers, fathers and human beings. And that really is true. We have been sold a bill of goods, and we

don't have leaders who will tell us any differently. As a matter of fact, when you look at Donald Trump, he is moving very rapidly away from the pro life position. Many people were very excited about him. They would tout that as one of his major achievements. Look, he somehow appointed Supreme Court justices and we got lucky and they got rid of Rob Wade, which never really had any authority because, as the Dobbs decision says, the Supreme

Court doesn't have the authority to make those kinds of decisions. They don't have the authority to decide when life begins. They don't have the authority to decide and to define marriage and many other things like that that they have gotten involved in. So they suddenly discovered the Tenth Amendment, but only on this issue, and that's sent a real shot across the bow for a lot of people who said, well, this could unwind a lot of things that the federal

government did if we actually paid attention to the tenth Amendment. But the Republicans don't like this. They wanted a permanent situation that they could all always present themselves as pro life advocates, and they started running away from this stuff as fast as they could, and now Trump is really running away from it. He says Republicans have to be more moderate in order to win elections, and

he talks about this in the context of abortion. I would just remind him that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and it is no vice when you do it in defense of life either, and moderation in pursuit of justice or moderation in pursuit of life is not a vice. And yet for Trump it is why because Trump believes his worldview is the same as that of Vince Lombardi. Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. That's all he

cares about. He has nothing else that he cares about except, you know, of course himself. But that's about him being a winner. And as we look at what is coming up in Iowa and just under fifty days, he's had a lot of people in Iowa who are not supporting him, from the governor to people who are running Christian organizations there. He didn't do well in twenty sixteen against Ted Cruz and Iowa either. These people there get to

see the candidates up close and personal. They can really understand where these people are coming from. He got very upset about the fact that these people. Back in twenty sixteen, I don't know if you remember this or not, he went to Liberty University and they had a slogan on some sign or something as you go into the university from what we would say is Second Corinthians. And I forget what the verse was, and I forget what it said,

but he was trying to relate to them. Oh yeah, that's my favorite verse two type of thing, right, that two Corinthians. And so they started laughing at him, and I defended Trump at the time. I said, look, this guy is obviously not a Christian. And by mocking him, which Ted Cruz is doing at the time, Two Corinthians, you know, again it was a shibbaleth. Everybody who is a Christian who's been in

church a little bit knows that in the US it's called Second Corinthians. But you know that they don't do that in England, by the way, So it's just a shibleeth, you know, the way that you talk about something. Why mock this guy, He's clearly not a Christian. Maybe you want to try to be a little bit more understanding and gentle and try to talk to him about this rather than mocking him because he doesn't pronounce it the way that you do. I thought it was really reprehensible of what Cruz and his

supporters did. Trump got really angry about it. He said, these so called Christians are real pieces of excrement. And so that's going to be in a book that is coming out from a guy named Tim Alberta, The Kingdom, The Power and the Glory American Evangelicals and the Age of Extremism. I came across an article where one guy was criticizing the support of the warfare state by evangelicals and he called them wargelical war wargelicals or something like that, and

war evangelicals. But he's true. I mean, it is this, this devotion to political power, which is really part of the warfare state projecting geopolitical power globally. Why would Christians sign on to that in any way, shape or form. But anyway, he's writing a book about this. Actually his father was a pastor, and so he's looking at the juncture of these Christians, who many of them are still coming up with false prophetical statements about Trump

winning the election. They doubled down on that kept saying, well, he's going to be restored, He's going to be restored to power one way or the other, and never pulled back even though they were made very specific predictions about the fact that he was never going to leave the White House and other things that they have been a real, a real disgrace to christ quite frankly, just as I thought that this mocking of him was a real disgrace.

But look, the guy does not support any principles. It's not just that he's not a Christian, he doesn't have any political principles either. He's completely malleable. When we come back, we're going to talk about the fact that he is hinting about what he might do to use the military inside the United States in his second term. We'll be right back looking for better information. APS radio news dot com features articles and commentary along with audio from all the

topnews from around the world. APS Radio news dot Com and you're listening to the David Knight Show. Well, Trump is hinting an expanded role for the military within the United States. He has got not only his campaign organization, but he's got an organization put together that is talking about policy initiatives that they're going to do. And two heavy supporters or institutions that are usually funding Democrats very heavily supporting Trump in this and so on. Look at this, Trump

hints had an expanded role for the military within the United States. Why didn't he do this at the board? You know, as soon as he got elected, he had promised to end the wars in Afghanistan. I rock and I said, well, bring the troops home. Put him at the border. He says, well, We're going to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Then he came back and said, well, Congress won't let me pay for the wall. Wait a minute, which is it. You're gonna have Mexico pay for it. You can have Congress pay for it. You

can't get it done. You don't know how to do this. You can't use the military to support to protect the American border, use the military to protect every other border, or to get involved in other wars, and you won't end any of these wars. But now he's saying, well, yeah, I'm going to do that in the next term. He's also saying that we have rampant crime in cities Democrat run cities like Chicago and New York. He calls him crime dens, and he says that we need to perhaps use

the military there to keep them on water. And yet what did President Trump do in the summer of twenty twenty when BLM and others were burning down cities nothing. People were calling on him to use the military to stop it. He did nothing. But this time around, he's going to do it.

And what is happening in these places is a direct consequence of the tactics and the strategies of Obama and Eric Holder, who during the transition period between the twenty sixteen election and Trump taking office in January the twenty twenty seventeen, they were openly strategizing and talking about how they were going to focus on electing district attorneys and state attorneys general. And that's exactly what they did with money from

Soros. You want to know why there's chaos, It's very simple. It's the leaders in those areas, and it's the fact that you've got Soros attorneys, district attorneys who do not want to prosecute crime. They have given a free pass to these people to essentially loot whatever they want. It does not call for the military to come into those cities. When people have had enough of this, they will get rid of these district attorneys. There's already been

some of them recalled. They thwarted the attempt to do it in LA by playing with the signatures, which is another tactic that these politicians always use to make sure that they control the ballot. They make independence and third parties do a signature campaign and then they will go through and throw those out to make sure that you don't get on the ballot. Well, they did that to keep a recall election from happening because it had already happened elsewhere in California.

But now he's saying New York City and Chicago or crime dens the next time. I'm not going to wait. One of the things I did was to let them run it, and we're going to show how bad a job they do. Well, we did that, and we don't have to wait any longer. You don't have to wait any longer. He says he was prevented during his president see from using the military to quell violence, especially in Democrat cities and states. Well, he was prevented by whom who was controlling Trump?

Then why couldn't he do it? If he had the If he's now realizes that he's got the authority, did he not know? Did he not have any advisers who could tell him that he had the authority? He tried to do all kinds of things after the election for which he had to authority, but he would not use the authority that he had to stop the summer riots. So who is by the way, you know, who controlled him? Then who's going to control him the next time? He's certainly not going

to be controlled or restrained by the constitution. He's made that clear in his first term with the lockdowns, then the rest of the stuff that he did. Trump has not spelled out precisely how he might use the military during a second term, although he and his advisers have some ested that they have wide latitude to call up units, while deploying the military regularly within the country's borders

would be a departure from tradition. The president already has signaled an aggressive agenda that if he wins, he will have mass deportations to travel bans imposed on certain Muslim majority countries, a law first craft in the nation's infancy, would give Trump, as commander in chief, almost unfettered power to do so, military and legal experts set in a series of interviews, and it's called the Insurrection Act. Interestingly enough, so he wants to double down on the so

called insurrection. It allows presidents to call on reserve or active duty military units to respond to unrest in the States, an authority that cannot be reviewed by the courts. One of the few guardrails merely requires a president to requi us that the participants disperse. The principal constraint on the president's use of the Insurrection Act is basically political, said Joseph Nunn, a national security expert with the

Brennan Center for Justice. He said, most presidents don't want to be the guy who sent tanks rolling down Main Street except for his purposes, or I should say, for the purpose of the globalists. Trump already told main Street they were not essential, So why not run tanks down the center of Main Street? And you know, when you look at this, so the president can call up troops if he wants to. He's a commander in chief under

the Insurrection Act. I mean, technically the presidents are supposed to get the permission of Congress to go to war send troops abroad. But now they pretend that they have this perpetual authorization for the use of military force. They declared war an attactic on terror, and now that war on terror allows them to go anywhere they want without a formal declaration of Congress. They say, that's what we call undercolor of law. But of course domestically they already had that

power with the Insurrection Act. And we were told right after the election, if you remember Steve Chennik and Owen, we're telling everybody that's exactly what Trump had already done two days after the election. This is what we were told. What's happening now. The reason I couldn't come on the Alex Jones so last night was I was not given the permission that I needed in order to say what I'm about to say now. It wasn't given the permission. Trump

wasn't given a permission. This is really a sting operation. Contrary to what everybody else said. Trump knew this was happening. Eric knew this was happening, and war in the public. I knew this was happening. However I could not say anything about it. What happened was we marked water marked every ballot with what's called the QFS block chain encryption code. In other words, we know pretty well where every ballot is, where it went, and who

has it. So this is not a stone own election. On the contrary, we reversed the entire game of war along the lines of the suns of the art of war. And Trump was brilliant and still is brilliant at it. All of this was expected. All of this is part of the sting

operation we're running. And let me tell you that forty eight hours ago, not only did we put markets on those ballots, but I can say now, with the permission of people in the intelligence community and elsewhere, that we have sent out thousands and thousands of National Guard to twelve different states, Washington, Delaware, Texas, Arizona, and Alabama and everywhere. So now you have to consider and rethink what this is really about. Yeah, yeah,

reconsider and think about what that was really about. You'll talk about an insurrection. That was the lie that kicked off the January of the sixth. Stop the steel stuff. Oh and said, oh I wish you were here. I would kiss you on the lips. And so yeah, he had already sent out troops. You know this has been done before, right, He sent out troops two days after election in twenty twenty. It was a law

that was created many ways for a country that doesn't exist anymore. Said one of the constitutional experts that this mainstream media outlet interview, this is ABC, and of course that was one where leaders had character and they wouldn't miss use this kind of power. But of course, you know, the reason we have the Bill of Rights is because James Madison said, let's not put our trust in men, but you know we need Well, it's actually Patrick Henry

who said that let's bind them down with the change of the constitution. That's exactly what James Madison did with the Bill of Rights. It is one of the most substantial exceptions to the Posse Comittatis Act, which generally prohibits using the military for law enforcement purposes. Just declare an insurrection, Well, if you had something look like an insurrection, certainly was maybe the Black Lives Matter riots in summer of twenty twenty. But he didn't do it then. But now

he's saying he's going to use the military at the border. He's going to use the military to help cities that are just struggling with violent crime because of their policies because they don't want to lock up criminals, because they want to take guns away from law abiding citizens and things like that. That is not an insurrection, and so he would be fought on that. And yet there is to this. It's kind of interesting the few times that it has been

done. There have been forty times throughout the history of this country the last couple of centuries that they have invoked this law. One of those was by Lyndon Johnson, while actually he did it three times Baltimore, Chicago, and Washington in response to civil unrest over the assassination of doctor Martin Luther King in nineteen sixty eight. And then also during the Civil Rights era, you had President Johnson and JFK as well as Dwight Eisenhower used the law to protect activist.

Dwight Eisenhower called out the army to oppose the National Guard that was under the governor in Arkansas to keep the students, to put the students into a high school. George H. W. Bush used it during the Rodney King riots in LA in nineteen ninety two, and yet Trump would not use it in twenty twenty. But now he's going to do it this next time, he's going to do it to fix the border, which he wouldn't do throughout

his first four years. And you have to really wonder if that is really what he's talking about doing with this, or is he talking about grabbing the military so that he can pursue personal revenge. I would not put anything past him, quite frankly, and I think we need to be very concerned about his desire for revenge. Deeply wounded narcissist William Banks, a Syracuse University law

professor, I said military officer is not forced to follow unlawful orders. Well, this is what we were saying all the time about the Jabman date. Isn't it unlawful orders you don't have to follow? And yet that was something that was done across the board. Finally, when we talk about Trump here, remember when he went back and this when he spoke to the World Economic

Forum and he went there for the second time. It was January of twenty twenty, and it was just two months before he declared the pandemic emergency here and shut everything down. It was three months, three months after the clip that I used to play for you all the time about Fauci. How in October of twenty nineteen, FACI went to the Milking Institute. They asked him, how do we get everybody to take an untested vaccine? And says, well, we do it from the inside. You do it with disruption,

and you do it iteratively. That's how you do it. And so it was three months after that. Trump goes to the World Economic Forum. Two months later he declares, just like all these other leaders around the world, a global pandemic. Isn't that interesting that the only difference between Trump and Trudeah, people of Trudeau's Elk, Macron and all the rest of them. The only difference is that in terms of what they said, Trump opposed the globalist

verbally while Trump while Trudeau and Macron supported their agenda. And yet when it came to what he actually did, Trump did everything that the globalist wanted.

And so when we look at him there at the World Economic Forum, this is what it looked like in January of twenty twenty underway, Why is it better to be here in Dabelo, Jennie Washington, DC, who were here meeting were the world ladies, the biggest, most important people in the world, and we're bringing back tremendous business in the United States, and we look forward to being here. Klaus has done a fantastic job. Klaus has done

a fantastic job. Laus has done a fantastic And again we're meeting with the biggest companies in the world, the biggest businesses of the world and world leaders. Yeah, we're meeting with the biggest businesses in the world. They're all right here, Davos. That's what this is, right, This is a global corporatocracy and technocracy. These people are the biggest companies in the world. They are the stakeholders. According Klaus Schwab, stakeholder capitalism. That's what this

is truly about. It really was a betrayal. He really was on board with everything that the World Economic Form and the un wanted. He did it all. You know, It's one thing to say that you oppose him. It's another thing to say that you are anti globalists, and it's another thing to do everything that they wanted on rockvan Guard Goldsmith, good to see their

guard and good comment. He says. The Constitution stipulates the only way that the president can use troops inside the nation is if a state legislature or the governor of a state asks that's right, and the uh insurrection acting ADS is

unconstitutional, but of course so is everything else that the government does. But when we look at the timing of all this stuff, isn't it interesting how the first one of these, as they point out, it's not just Fauci at Milkin Institute in October, but they were also running Event two one three months before and sorry, two months before that, so they ran the simulation and Event two to one simulation three months before he declared the emergency. You've

got Fauci saying that three months before they declared the emergency. He's saying, we're going to do it from the inside with disruption and chaos and iteratively, and then he lowers the hammer on everyone. But we saw that back in two thousand and one when these Germ Games first kicked off. We had Dark Winter two months before nine eleven, and then that happened. And this is

the other shoe really to drop of nine to eleven. So, as he was speaking with Schwab, Schwab said, mister President, we discuss here very intensely the questions of inclusiveness, but all of your politics certainly are aiming to create better inclusiveness for the American people, Well, we know exactly what Klaus

Schwab means by inclusiveness, and so they were. You know, Trump was their fiftieth anniversary of them and he had to attend and meet the world leaders and the stakeholder capitalists who are holding the stakes that they want to drive into our hearts. He says, we look forward to being here. Klaus has done a fantastic job, said the stealth globalist. And this is not a

conspiracy theory. Trump did everything that they wanted, as Wine Press News says, if you're still defending this guy, then you're just being wilfully ignorant to the facts. He's not some superhero. He's not some godsend that is going to drain the swamp or restore America. That was and is nothing more than total propaganda. He didn't do it his first four years as president. He

certainly will not do it later if he's elected again. Said it's a false hope in a mega rich con man and slimeball who gives people false hope and vanities to trust in as he continues to do the same as all the rest. As I said, they all did it. They all did exactly what the World Economic form and the UN want it in twenty twenty. Well, when we come back, I want to play for you a clip of a soldier who really you know, when they finally did pull out of Afghanistan because

they got thrown out. Trump didn't bring the troops back to protect the boarder, but when they got thrown out, this guy who just separated from the service has a story to tell about what happened to him. We will be right back. If you like the Eagles, the cars, and Heuey Lewis in the news, they say the You'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio, download our app or listen now at apsradio dot com. You are listening to the David Knight Show. Okay, let's talk about what happened to

some of the troops. We have former troops who punished over the Biden vaccine mandate are now suing for billions and lost wages. I've got a lot of stories about people who are suing their employers and many other things. And this is one of the ways I said this that when this is all happening, I said, there's going to be a lot of lawsuits, especially against corporations who have violated people's religious liberty and discriminated against them on the basis of their

religion. And if this happened to you, as they say on TV, lawyers are standing by. You need to make these people pay for this. And I see a comment here from kWt sixty eight. He said, every time I hear a Trump supporter complain about COVID tyranny and I stole an election, I feel like I've been handed to gift. Then the fun ensues. I've awakened a couple of people with this. Well, let's talk about some of these troops who've been again. They are suing for billions in lost wages.

Former troops are suing the US government for lost pay and benefits over Biden's mandate. Said and one of the lawyers who's represented them successfully brought down the anthrax vaccine. He got that stop that was being used against the military at the time, and so he's got a good history in terms of fighting dangerous, untested vaccines. That's what both the anthrax vaccine that was done to the

military as well as this COVID vaccine the Trump shot. But listen to what happened to this soldier in Afghanistan. I want to share something with you guys today. I want to holler, I want to scream, I want to yell, but I won't do any good. Today is gear turnin day for me, turn in all the gear that I've collected over the last four years of being active duty with the Army with eighty second Airborne Division. Two years ago, my unit deployed to Afghanistan for the Afghanistan withdrawal. We spent a

few weeks over there. It was hectic, it was chaotic, it was disgusting, and it made me very disappointed in our government. Today, I'm reminded of how disappointed I am in our government. Go to turn in my gear. They want to charge me five hundred to one thousand dollars for gear that I was ordered to leave in Afghanistan two years ago because as the last two birds were sitting on the tarmac ready to leave, there wasn't any room for extra gear, extra weight. Therefore we were told to leave it.

Some lower enlisted dudes, including myself, were like, no, this stuff is expensive. I'm not leaving this. I'm gonna get charged for this when it comes time to leave. Don't worry, We're gonna catch you on the back end. We know we'll flipple it now it's time to get out of the army, and they just want it. They want to charge you for that. Meanwhile, we can continue to give millions of dollars to the Taliban. We can give billions of dollars to Ukraine. We can give billions of

dollars to student debt relief. We can give a bunch of stupid stimulus checks. We can cut those to the American people. Well, we can't cover five hundred to one thousand dollars for a dude that left gear in Afghanistan, for a dude that left gear in a place that you put me to begin with, the government is so stinking backwards right now, man, Yeah, I think we all see that. As on Rock Fan, we have a comment here. Trump is as elite and as globalist as they come, all

while wearing a Christian liberty lover costume in every rally. Yeah. I don't know why these people are still fooled by this, But isn't that amazing the government which doesn't care about how much equipment leaks out of Ukraine. They know it leaks like a sieve, but they just keep sending military equipment there By over one hundred billion dollars they've sent and yet they're going to lean on these soldiers. They ordered them to leave that gear behind. They said, no,

we can't leave that. We'll get charged with that now now they're going to charge them. Let's talk a little bit about the vaccines though, and especially this update that came out from a handy on his substack on Thanksgiving and the day after warning people about the new flu shots that are there. He said, here's a short m mess update. He said, earlier today, I had a seizure call from about an infant patient. When I arrived and

found a child about twelve months old who had a seizure. During assessment, realized this child most likely experienced a feberal seizure, a high fever, had a one hundred and two degree temperature, he said. I learned this child had been given two flu shots recently. The first injection was given in September, the second injection in October. He noticed that two flu shots. They're doubling up on everything now. This child's older sibling was also given a flu

shot in October. Then both children have been sick off and on since they were injected. The older sibling seems to have mostly recovered, but the younger child relapsed two days ago into flu like symptoms of cough, fever, vomiting, lethargy, which ultimately caused the seizure today from the fever. He says, this is a second child I've had this season who was extremely ill after receiving vaccines. The prevnar pneumonia vaccine was given to the last one who ended

up with full blown pneumonia just four days after their injection. And he said, but after doing some research, he says, I was wondering if this is an mRNA type of thing, because they're giving them two shots now, said so, I did some research and I found that now the CDC is recommending two flu shots one month apart for certain children. They just can't get enough. Already in this country, we've got six dozen shots that you wind up getting as a child if you follow all of the all of the directions

from the CDC, seventy two shots. Nobody else does that in any other country. And now they want to give you two flu shots every year in addition to that. And this is coming. You know, when we started looking at this right away from the very beginning, it was very clear that this was a scam. Why anybody who had looked at the vaccine and the flu shots, as everybody at info wars had done, and it's people like other people who had follow this vaccine thing he had done. You knew that

this was a standard lie that they would use every year. Look at all these cases and look at how they're going up, and so you've got to get the flu shot, never mind the fact that it's not been tested really to see if it's effective, because they just guess. They say, well, you know, we think that this year this is going to be a flu strain. So they just create a bunch of these vaccines way in advance and then put them out and what are the chances of that working? Zero?

And in despite the fact that we realize that all these people, as soon as they would get the shot, they would get sick. I said a couple of weeks ago, when to have a blood test made, and the guy who was taking the blood, the technician, Karen, asked him, did you get a vaccine, get the COVID vaccine? Oh? Yeah, he says, not immediately got sick right after with COVID, he said, always happens to me with the flu shots, and yet he continues to

do it. And he's a medical technician. You know, some people just can't put two and two together, and when they do, they get five. Can't figure this stuff out. And so now after they got people used to doing the two shot process, which is a real novel thing, and we questioned that. We said, you know, why are they doing this with two shots? Is this some kind of bi valent weapon or something by

a weapon? You know, we got part A and Part B and now they interact with each other, you know, but it's just an opportunity for them to vaccinate people more, it really is, and to get people sick. And so now they're back. You know, the COVID shot was nothing but a glorified flu shot. They did two of those, and so now

they're going to make the annual flu shot two. So he said, the CDC recommends two flu shots one month apart for certain children quote unquote six months to eight years of age, but they don't mention what qualifies as a certain child quote unquote you know what which certain children should have this between you know, the ages of six months and eight years, they should have two of these shots. Well, how do we determine which kids are the ones that

should have that says Handy. He said, maybe they leave that part up to the salesman, I mean the doctors. And that's exactly right. CDC has been a vaccine salesman. The doctors have been vaccine salesman all this time. And then he says, after the last email, we were dispatched to a gas station with two unconscious mails inside. One was in the bathroom in respiratory arrests, not breathing, but still alive. The other was in the

drink coolers and a zombie pose against the wall. The one in the bathroom had several hypodermic needles in his pockets. I'm pretty sure this is something some of the track, some of the fentanyl and horse tranquilizers there's been on the news recently. Narcan brought this brought the guy that was in respiratory arrests back to the land of living. The other one was obviously intoxicated, but he was also violent. When he was roused from his drug induced stupor, he

went to jail after shoving a police officer. Andy said, I've treated fentanyl overdoses for many years, but this is my first experience of trink so it has finally made its way to Atlanta. Yeah, when he talks about the guy who was you know, under a respiratory arrest or you know, a zombie state, there was and I did not show the picture the video of

it. It's very distressing video. There was an EMS technician who was called to a guy who was on he was on some kind of public transport a bus or train or something like that, and he was in that state and the guy brings him out of it. And as he points out, as Handy point out, this one guy who was brought out of his zombie state

attacks the police officer. They haul him off to jail. Well, this guy, you see the body camera footage from the EMS guy, actually a fireman who was doing EMS work and he's talking to him and he goes, you know, and they're talking about his his how he's feeling, and all the rest of this stuff. And then a police officer is there. The police officer said, I see a bulge there on the side of your your jacket. He says, you're caring gun. Oh no, no, I

can't. Can I check that? No, I don't know what you're talking toutrim me and all. He winds up pulling the gun out uh to get the police officer, but he shoots and kills the fireman who saved his life. Just amazing to watch what is happening in this country. China's COVID trauma returns. Just take a look at what is happening in China. We have if I can find the clip here, let me play that. Well, I don't seem to have that. Oh yeah, here we are right here.

This is the video that they took of. They've got the hazmat workers back wearing their white suits. Look at that, and got these kind of like a leaf blower, but it's it's spraying out some kind of chemical substance like a fog throughout various rooms and down the hallways. Who knows what's in that kind of stuff. And this is what they're doing in China, has matt workers disinfecting streets, disinfecting hallways and offices and buildings and that kind of

stuff, just spraying this stuff everywhere. You understand that the disease that we're looking at here is not anything other than tyranny, and it's going to keep going both there and here until we change some things about our government. There's not any changes in the works for China. But as they locked everything down with their zero COVID and just did it a year or so ago, about a year and a half in Shanghai to teach them a lesson, they're going

to do it again and they're going to make this a regular basis. In the past days, China's state controlled media have reported on hospitals in Beijing and other northern areas. Said that their maximum capacity, I said, when all these things are coming out of China, I said, do you believe anything that's coming out of China? They can say anything that they want. As

they were sealing people in their homes and doing it. Beijing's Children Hospital alone reportedly admitted over seven thousand daily cases, said one report, again, is any that true? So people are saying, here are these They call them dubai which means big white figures because they are covered at the toe and a white hazmat suit, and so they said they're here again. Can we really say that there won't be epidemic controls again? Said another one. Of course

there will be because it was never about a disease. It was always about politics. The disease is political. Another one said, it is almost twenty twenty four and the scene has returned. I pointed out that it was just a couple of months ago in Shanghai people were dressing up as Dubai, as these guys in the white suits as a halloween costume. Because if you really

want to scare somebody, you put on one of those things. Right, there's mass murder and imprisonment and open air prisons and all the rest of the stuff. That's what those Dubai costumes represent. But of course they did that

in the United States as well. I remember very clearly they said, well, here's somebody who was exposed to COVID, and they took a long shot and then put it out to the media, and they had all these guys and a hazmat suit carrying the personal possessions of this person and putting them in isolation. That was all pr to push this mcguffin on us. The surgeon infections has been attributed by Chinese health authorities to a confluence of typically mild mico

plasma, pneumonia, a denovirus, and other seasonal illnesses. So this is going to be something the seasonal illnesses, the flus will be interpreted as COVID nineteen was. They're going to be interpreted as some kind of a pandemic. Send them into the hospitals and have the hospitals use the death protocol as Trump did. The surge is exacerbated by children's reduced exposure to these illnesses during the lockdown. They say, this is not anything other than a pretense, just

as it was the first time around. The UK has detected its first case of swine flu strained. So you see how this is happening. We have all these different publications now starting to try to scare people with this. So it's in China. They don't even bother to make up some new imaginary novel flu. They just say, well, you know, we've admitted a lot of people to the hospital, so we're going to use this to like everybody down. So in the UK they've got a new strain. They said,

of his first human case of swine flu. Well, you know, if pigs could fly, would all be worried about swine flu. But they can't, so we shouldn't be worried about this. This is coming from the Guardian, leftist Guardian pushing one of the big pushers of both the COVID mcguffin and the climate mcguffin. It's a question is who guards the Guardian's news right,

Well, we know that who was telling them what to write. Fifty cases of the strain have been reported globally since two thousand and five, So therefore it's a global pandemic because I mean, we didn't have that many people affected in twenty twenty when they locked everything down, and of course this is over eighteen years. The person infected, who has not been identified, of course, has had a mild illness and has recovered. But be very afraid.

You should be very afraid of the medical dictators who are going to be coming after you. French government is taking aim at COVID conspiracy theorists, and they have a draft bill that starts referring to people who question the government as sex sects, like a religious sect. Anyone daring to criticize medical treatments could fall a foul of this law. Think about that, so so many people had religious objections to these vaccines. Of course they're going to couch this in religious

terms. You're part of a sect. And if you criticize the medical treatments, well you can get arrested. I remember I called this medical martial law when Trump did it in March of twenty twenty. And that's really what it has truly become. As they talk about this, they have an organization that they've created, the French government has created to fight what they call sectarian excesses. The organization is the Mission for vigil and the Fight against sectarian abuses.

Sectarian is typically defined has always been defined in the past as somebody who follows a religious or a philosophical doctrine. But here they are going to use it to refer to people who are government dissidents because you know, you don't buy into the cult of the omnipotent state as they used to refer to it in the libertarian principles, you know, and it is. It is a cult of the omnipotent state, which is no longer just merely omnipotent, but it

is also omniscient and omnipresent as well. So for the Mission for Vigilance and the Fight against sectarian abuses, they define a sectarian problem as a misuse of freedom of thought. Think about that, a misuse of freedom of thought. I'm sorry, you're not You're not using your freedom appropriately, we're going to take that away. And your thoughts, your thoughts are not appropriate either you

know that woman praying silently on the corner or they're doing abortions. Sorry, you're misusing your freedom of thought, or misuse of your opinion, or misuse of your freedom of religion, because it undermines public order. Yes, we must have order and safety, and they will define what that is. You'll not be safe unless you follow their orders, and so you have to again,

it's about safety, the secretary. And excesses that they refer to are things like the recruitment of children or anti social discourse like on social media. Things that you have to say, disturbances of the public order. Don't tell people that the government is wrong about something or the consequences will be of that, or attempts to infiltrate the authorities. All of these things are to be

punished in France. But of course we know this is coming everywhere, because we know that all these people are marching to the same orders of the UN and the World Economic Forum, and they're going to put a refinement on this when they start to meet real soon with COP twenty eight. They're going to talk about how they were going to roll out these new orders. And as I said before, you've got many people who are suing, people who are

suing the military, people who are suing their employers. This is one a Christian who was part of it. Was I guess the French would call him sectarian. He said, no, this COVID shot is violation of my freedom of religion. And he said he worked for Newmont Mining Corporation, the world's leading gold company, And they claimed that they were just following various mandates for employees. Now who's mandating this again? This is the way that it would

have rolled out with Trump. It would have been done through the private corporations. Trump may or may not have done it through the military, but they definitely would have used the private corporations. And that was a big part of how this all worked. You know. You just look at the hospitals and the fact that CMS under Trump was rewarding them for identifying people as COVID patients and giving them a twenty percent bonus for everything, and then giving them a

bonus if they even made a clinical diagnosis. And then when Biden came around, he didn't give direct orders for the hospitals to vaccinate everybody. Instead, what he used was money. The money thing Trump would have done exactly that. That's exactly the approach that Trump would have taken on that. As I said, the difference might have been with the military. Whether or not Trump would have mandated it for the military, that's a question still remains in my

mind. But I know that he would have used CMS because the rucms to push the lockdowns and to push the ventilators and other things that killed so many people, but not as many people as as shots did when they rolled out. So as WND, which is a tireless Trump Trump cheerleader, they were chumps for Trump. I guess we could say they said that. Newmont Mining says that it was just following various mandates for employees having the experimental and now

known to be dangerous COVID nineteen shots. So they won't call it the Trump shots, and they will call it dangerous. This is the true Trump derangement syndrome, the bipolar Trump derangement central you see. MAGA, under the lawsuit filed, said he notified the company immediately that the order conflicted with his deeply held religious beliefs. He said, I'm a Christian, complying with this mandate would definitely burden my religious exercise because in my faith, my body does not

belong to me. I do not make the choices for my body. My heavenly Father made those choices for me through his word. If you're mandating to me what to place into his temple, then you're burdening my religious freedom by taking the choice of what goes into my body away from God. Well, they didn't care about any of that, and quite frankly, it doesn't matter whether they agree with it or not. Other people have expressed their religious differences,

their religious objections in different ways. I think that Jason Barker, his reasoning on it was much better, But it doesn't really matter whether you agree with the reasoning or not. You have religious freedom and they are not allowed to do that. So he is now suing them. And I think this is something that needs to be replicated many other places, because these same companies are going to do the same thing again if we don't stop them this time.

Not fourteen million lives saved, but over seventeen million dead, says Robert Malone. And of course, every time we see Trump talk about this, whenever anybody asks him about the vaccines. As Candice Owen's dead, he immediately talks about the millions and millions of lives that he saved, millions of lives. He said, he saved just in the United States alone, but all over the world he saved lives. No, he killed people. But she backed down. She didn't really want to challenge any of that. But we

know that is now the truth, and how is that happening? And they're still killing people. New evidence is showing the mechanism of this again what they call hyper progressive cancers or what has cloquially been called turbo cancers caused by the COVID vaccines. Eight they don't think that they've found the mechanism that does this. They call them the ig G four antibodies, and they said these antibodies

are usually created in response to a persistent irritants, such as worms. Unfortunately, repeat injections of mRNA covid vaccines are perceived by our immune system as a persistent irritant, and it causes these antibodies to switch on. The persistent irritation effect possibly occurs not only because repeat injections, but also due to mRNA gene expression never stopping in half of these vaccinated people. That's what I said from

the very beginning. So they're going to you know, the and his Little Dog and Pony show. He's got everybody lined up around the table. How long is it going to take you to do it? How long is it going to take you? And he had them all lined up in decreasing time amount, and the last one was of course Muderna. They said, well, we've aready, We're ready to go. Now we'll turn your body into a vaccine producing thing. And so I said at the time, if they're

going to do that genetically, what's the off switch for that? Well, it turns out that in at least half of the vaccinated people, it never stops. It just keeps producing this stuff spike protein. So are these antibodies harmless? Do they have any effect outside of our immune reactions? Is there something to worry about? Unfortunately? A twenty twenty study published by the British Medical Journal for Immunotherapy or of Cancer suggests that having more of these particular antibodies

again, I think it is the IgG four. Having these antibodies of any kind enhances cancer progression. The study was done two years before the discovery of the mRNA vaccine related class switch to these types of antibodies. So these mechanisms are now being discovered. But we knew from the very beginning from watching these crooks, liars and politicians. I know, I'm redundant here. We knew this from the very beginning. What this is about. It said, local

application. If they applied this particular type of antibody, it accelerates growth of breast and chlorectal cancer. So they have a substance that gets accelerated. The people who are vaccinated. They know that that substance, they've already proved in the past that that substance increases cancer. And then they find two years later that, oh and the thing that increases the cancer is increased by the mRNA vaccines. So it comes together. But don't expect the mainstream media to talk

about any of this. The daily skeptic will, but the rest of them

won't. Pfizer, by the way, assuing Poland because Poland isn't going to buy any more of their trump shots, and there was Back in April of twenty twenty one, if you remember, Ersy LeVander Layden, Theuropean Union president, had been negotiating the biggest contract ever and it was a sealed contract and she was negotiating that with a Pfizer And there were some text messages that went back and forth between the Pfisers CEO Albert Borla and Ursula, but the texts

then disappeared. They're flushed down the memory hole. And Poland says, well, we were concerned about this because, you know we it looks like there's something shady going on with this purchasing, so we're not going to buy any more of that. So now Pfiser going to sue Poland and tell them that they have to buy this stuff because ursulav Andre Leaden signed a contract on their behalf with the European Union. Slovakia meanwhile, will not be entering into any

international pandemic agreements with a who they've learned their lesson. They appear to be the only country that has learned their lessons. Slovakia and Prime Minister declared that there's a government will not sign onto the World organ World Health Organization's Pandemic Treaty and they will not ratify it in parliament. Of course, we will have some bureaucrat who will sign on to it. Like John Krey did with the Paris Climate Accord and said, well, we self ratified it. We don't

bother to take this to the Senate. And of course Mitch McConnell never called for a vote on the Paris Climate Accord. They will probably do the same thing with the World Health Organization treaty. But other countries say, well, we have to have this approved by parliament, and we're not going to do that. They said, we're not going to prove it because it's a project

of greedy pharmaceutical companies. They're exactly right about that. Before we break and bring on our guests, a couple of comments here, Trump is elite globalist as they come. I read that one before Jason Barker, I was forced into taking many anthrax shots. They lied and said it was mandatory and I would be kicked out if I didn't take it. And then you find out that a lawyer pushed all that stuff back. Yeah, they really bluffed it, didn't they. On rock fan Handy said I have a friend of marine

who has to take weekly injections now because of that anthrax shot. Yeah, they keep doing it. Well, we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back. We are going to have as our guest David Stockman. He has a new book coming out, Trump's War on Capitalism is going to be released the beginning of January. Very excited to talk to him about that. We'll be right back. The common Maid They created common Core, dumbed down our children. They created common past, track and control us their Commons

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APS Radio, download our app or listen now at apsradio dot com. All right, joining us now is former Congressman, former Director of the Office of Management and Budget OMB under Ronald Reagan, David Stockman. And he is someone that Ron Paul said is one of the most astute observer of the tragic and unnecessary implosion of our economy, our monetary system, and society and general. And he's got some observations about Trump's first term and some warnings about what the

second term might look like. So joining us now is David Stockman. Thank you for joining us, sir, gad to be with you. And we've got a lot to talk about here on that topic. Right, Oh, we shure. And the book that's going to be coming out in January, I should say, is Trump's War on Capitalism. I have referred to President Trump because he set so many precedents that were good precedents during his first term. So take us down his presidents in terms of attacking capitalism. Yeah.

Well, the whole point in my book is that there are certain principles fiscal rectitudes, sound money, free markets, open international trade that really define what I think is the conservative position in today's battle of governance in Washington. And when it comes to those core principles or items, Trump came down time and time and time again on the wrong side. He was a big spender. He was constantly harassing the Fed for easier and easier money when we already had

interest rates that were barely above zero. He got taken to the cleaners by Fauci and that whole group of malpracticing doctors around him when he was persuaded to lock down the economy and destroy the life work of millions of workers and small business people and so forth. So I think you have to say, with four years of that kind of record, why do we want it again?

That is not going to solve the huge problems of debt, of weak economic growth, of inflation, of a Washington Uni party, as I call it, you know, bipartisan consensus us to bury us in debt, and you know, handless government intervention and manipulation. So those I think are the core

issues Trump is on the wrong side. And the idea that well maybe he you know, got went off base a few times with the you know, six trillion dollars worth of stimmis that he pushed through in less than a year and he should be forgiven for this because there was a strong Maga economy.

So called it's not true. And I sort of lay out in my book on every measure that you could look at, job creation, real economic growth, real GDP per capita, that's kind of a proxy for standard of living, savings rate, investment rate, productivity growth, all the items that comprise kind of the core metrics for the economy. I mean, we're actually worse under Trump's four years than any president going all the way back to Truman. Okay, so we're talking about a period of time in which we had nine

presidents, eleven different recessions and business cycles. If we average it all out, real economic growth during Trump's term four years was one point five percent. During the prior sixty two years of all those presidents Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Reagan, Linda Johnson, and everybody in between, the growth rate averaged three percent. So, you know, it was less than half

of what you might call the long term post war average. So you can't say there was a Maggie economy that was so good that we can forgive all the deviations and all of the you know, Trump place these that were inimical to everything conservatives I always thought believed in because you know, the record isn't there. So why do we need a big spender, Why do we need another easy money man. Why do we believe a guy? Why do we need a guy who may go off half cocked in another direction if he gets

bad advice, you know, from government bureaucrats. And you know, I think at the end of the day, and I heard you talking earlier about all the issues related related to the COVID, the lockdowns, the mandatory shots, all the rest of it, he was wrong on that. And you know, he basically could have had good advice from a lot of people on the outside who were saying, no, no, no, this isn't the Black plague, This isn't you know, something that requires the Constitution to be

set aside or the economy to be wrecked. He didn't, and he just plowed forward by the seat of his ample breeches, as I call it. And you know, we ended up with a real mess that we're still living with. I mean, the period in which all this terrible inflation we've had under Biden. And I don't give Biden any pass either, but the inflation

was germinated. It was cooked up during the last year of Trump's administration, when he told the FED to print money like there's no tomorrow, and when the federal you know, deficits soared to three trillion dollars, more than three trillion dollars, just an incredible surge in government borrowing and spending that turned the economy red hot, but unsustainably so, and we ended up with the inflation

that we're struggling with at the present time. So those are some of the Those are some of the themes that we're trying to discuss it in the book that will be come out shortly. Yeah, when we look at the and you say, you know, the metrics, you look at the other metrics, and you talked about how it was half the economic growth that we've had post war with all the other presidents. And yet you know, he would constantly go back, you'd cherry pick his metric that he wanted to look at,

which is going to be the stock market. Oh, look at the stock market is doing great or whatever. Forget about job creation. Talk a little bit about job creation. What happened to job creation under Trump? Well, I mean, if you really want the number, it's pretty devastating. When Trump took office, there were one hundred and forty five point four million

jobs in the US economy according to BLS. The month he left January twenty twenty one, there were forty two point four million, In other words, three million jobs less at the end of his four years than when he started. And if you look back at the record, there is no other president going all the way back to Truman, that ended up with fewer jobs at

the end of his term than existed at the beginning. Because capitalism works pretty well, the economy grows, jobs are created, and the number always goes up. It always goes up every president, whether they were good, bad, or and different, whether they hurt you know, our free market economy or not. Jobs continued to grow, but not under Trump because of the lockdowns, because of the brutal government intervention and the normal course of daily commerce,

which is what that was all about. When you shut down. And we have a lot of statistics in the book to show how bad it was in certain sectors, and we can talk about that, but when you do that, you know, you end up at the end of a four year term with three million fewer jobs than when you start. Now that's the truth of the matter. The Trump's as well. You know, the COVID it wasn't my fault. It came from China or something like that. Well,

you know, there's a whole debate about where it came from. The issue was the appropriate constitutional, economically productive response. And the response was not to shut down the entire service sector of the economy, not to shut down all the restaurants and bars and gyms and movies and all the other places where people congregate. That was a hugely unwise, counterproductive, destructive policy. He embraced

it, hook line and sinker. He you know, allowed the so called White House Task Force to be on the you know, bully pulpit as I call it, day after day, scaring the hell out of the public, encouraging people to you know, hide under their beds and stay in their homes, and all of the badly disrupted the economy. Now he has to take accountability for that. And I have a little section in the book going back to Truman, you may really call. Truman famously had this sign on his

desk that said the buck stops here. In other words, I am the president. Ultimately, I'm not going to blame somebody else else. If things go good or bad, the buck stops here. Trump has never been willing to accept the fact that he shut down the economy unnecessarily, though that impact is in the numbers and it makes his tenure look extremely bad. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, the buck stops with him. And I've said many times the buck actually started with him as well, because he finanically incentivized these hospital protocols that were deadly. He incentivized the hospitals to do a clinical diagnosis and give him a twenty percent bonus and all these other things. So he was incentivizing that you mentioned earlier, the devastating loss to so many people who lost their businesses, and that was one of the things that really bothered me.

I come from a family where both my grandfathers were small businessmen, and my father was a small businessman. I understand how people pour their life, their capital, and their life's work into that and to be told that you're non essential and to shut down and destroy your business as he did everywhere. And it wasn't just that we saw this shock to the distribution system, so you had people destroying food on the farms while there was nothing on the shelves.

I spent time talking to people about EPENCILA. I said, you understand that this work, so we don't need to have the government micromanaging everything. This guy is acting like some kind of Chinese dictator. And I said, that's really what the real virus is, is this political virus, this approach that he's taken. You talk a little bit about you do you cover that in your book, right, I'm assuming yeah I do. And you know, Trump on this issue wasn't authoritarian. He had the wrong diagnosis. It came

from Fauci. It said the government needs to step in massively with its huge boot heel and regiment the behavior of the public and thereby control a virus that was not a fatal threat to ninety six ers ninety eight percent of the population. But Trump signed on, and once he decided that was the mission of

government, then you know there's no holds barred. I mean, Trump doesn't have any principles about limited government, about observing the Constitution, about the need to preserve free markets and therefore encourage entrepreneurship and small businesses to create the economic prosperity and jobs that they create. But I was going to say on your point about especially small businesses in that massive harm and damage that was done.

Probably ground zero of the lockdowns is what the BLS calls the leisure and hospitality sector, and that covers you know, bars and restaurants and movie theaters, and you know sports arenas, and you know the whole range of things where people gather in small or large groups. Now, if you look at that sector in the single month, and this is a startling figure, I have a chart on it in my book, and I think people aren't going to

believe it, which is big. You know, there's seventeen eighteen million people employed in that sector dropped by fifty eight percent in one month. Fifty eight percent. Now this is hours work. So if people were part timers, they you know, they instead of twelve hours a week, they got two or none. Now, why is how do we describe this? That fifty eight percent crash plunge eliminated all the game and hours worked since April nineteen seventy

eight. Wow, if you could imagine that, In other words, in one fell swoop, Trump gets up to the White House microphone, looks over at Fauci, agrees to a question that you know, all these sectors should be shut down, you know, for several weeks, and the consequence of that was to wipe out forty two years worth of growth in one of the largest sectors of the economy where most of our small businesses and entrepreneurs thrive and

get their start. I mean, look at that sector. It's not like big tech as a couple of firms in Silicon Valley, or it's not like steel or autos where there's two or three or four competitors. It is, you know, it is populated with millions of small businesses. And Trump came in and wiped them out. And you know that, and that's reflected in that number that I just gave you. During the second quarter, real GDP, as a result of the lockdowns and what I call the Trump U Case

mandate, dropped at an annual rate of thirty three percent. Now you know the you know, the viewer might say, well, thirty three percent, how big is that? Well, we know that the Great Recession was pretty bad. Remember back in two A, two nine, they're saying this is the worst recession since the nineteen thirties. Well, in that turn, which was pretty traumatic, real GDP sank in the worst quarter by eight percent.

So in the second quarter, the lockdown quarter, the Trumpian mandated standstill of the economy, we had a four time larger collapse of GDP that occurred during the Great Recession. We're still recovery from that. Because it messed up everything in the economy. People soon became so fearful about going to public venues or they weren't allowed to because you know, the restaurants were closed, the bars

were closed, and the gyms. Can you imagine this. There are so many thousands of small time entrepreneurs in localities all over the country who have three or four gyms or maybe one. They've put their heart and soul in it, their sweat equity. They built up their business over years and they were to the single most healthy, strongest part of the population, basically young people

that go to the gyms. And these fools came in and shut down all the gyms, destroyed the sweat equity of literally thousands of small business people. And Trump let them do it. Yeah yeah, and courage me. So

you can't you can't overlook these things. This is what I'm saying. I know there's a lot of conservatives of say that Biden's bad equorse is bad, but we're never going to make any headway if we keep electing people on the Republican ticket who implement big government, big spending, big borrowing, money printing

policies. And it might be better even if the election is lost, as I look at it, to go another four years with the status quo than to put another Trump, you know, put Trump back into the White House, to even further undermine the cause of conservative economics. Well, I agree, Yeah, the constitution didn't matter, Conservative economics didn't matter. He just did whatever he wished. And I thought it was interesting that he was doing

essentially the same thing that all these politicians doing in every single country. As we saw their propaganda turned our country into a nation that had OCD. Everybody had this obsessive compulsive disorder. They were wiping everything down and running around wearing masks and afraid to engage with other people. But let me ask you about this. You know, I remember looking at this and you talked about how it dropped fifty eight percent, you know for the service sector and hours worked

and that type of thing. I was looking at the stuff and said, wow, this is way worse than the Great Recession. This is looking like the unemployment numbers that we're seeing here instantaneously were the kind of thing that we saw with a great depression after kind of rolled along for two or three years and got to its peak. But this happened as a spike, very damaging.

And then the response that Trump put out there in terms of stimulus checks, and of course you know this massive three plus trillion dollars that he put out there. The only person in Congress who opposed him on that was Thomas Massey. Remember how angry he got about that. But I wanted to talk about the stimulus check and I look at this and it seems to me like

preparation for universal basic income? What do you think about that? And you think that is something that is going to be We haven't really had any of the candidates opposing that or really even focusing on universal basic income? As an economist, is that something that you see being pushed and perhaps coming to us regardless of whether it is a Republican or Democrat Since everybody else seemed to kind of go along with it except for Thomas Massey. Are they going to use

this as conditioning for universal basic income? Well, you know, I don't know that there are that many people, even in the uniparty in Washington, explicitly advocated universal income, but they're stumbling into it through the back door, because that's what these stemmy checks were about. Any household with up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of income, which is ninety percent of households were eligible for the checks, both for each a husband and each spouse,

and half that amount for the kids. Over that period. The total number of stemmy checks, and remember we had them in March twenty twenty, then

they renewed them in December twenty twenty. Trump signed the bill. It became effective in January, but he had advocated during the campaign another two thousand dollars check for every adult American and another thousand dollars for every child, and they got half of it in his Christmas Eve Bill twenty twenty, and Biden put in the rest okay, But effectively, the Biden American Rescue Act so called, was simply funding the tail end of the Trump program that he campaigned on.

In November twenty twenty, he advocated another two thousand per person on top of what had already been done in March. The March period earlier. Now, the problem with this is not only the massive amount of money that was pumped into the economy, not just through the stemmy checks, but also the unemployment toppers. You know, just take this one. None of this was

considered. They passed this in eleven days. If you can remember, the press conference happened I think on March sixteenth, and that was where you know,

we got the two weeks to flatten the curve and all that. Within eleven days they passed the Cares Act so called, which was the first two point two trillion, And in that without any hearings, without any analysis, they said, anybody who's getting federal unemployment, federal state unemployment, or getting the new emergency benefits under this act will get an additional six hundred dollars on

top of their regular check. Now, the average unemployment check at that point in time under their normal system was about three hundred and eighty dollars a week. They put six hundred on top of that. All of a sudden, each unemployed person in the household was eligible for one thousand dollars a week. Now, if you go through all the math and you add in the tax

credits, you add in the stimulus checks that occurred three times. You know, it's possible that a family of five, three kids to working spouses could have elected somewhere between thirty and forty thousand dollars over that one year period. So it is no wonder that suddenly the labor supply dried up. People had an alternative, And it's no wonder that the red ink just exploded when you start to pass out money in that magnitude. I'll give you one number that

I think is just startling. But the Federal Statistical Bureaus put out all kinds of data, obviously, but one has to do with the run rate of transfer payments by all levels of government, federal, state, local. By transfer payments we mean obviously welfare, food stamps, but also Medicare, medicaid,

housing assistance, all the rest of it. The normal growth year the year of transfer payments was about one hundred and fifty billions, and that was growing, you know, And we've been talking about this for a long time, and conservatives had been warning that transfer payments are undermining, you know, the health of the economy and so forth. But that was about one hundred

and fifty billion, one hundred and eighty billion a year. During the peak of the trunk stemmy bacchanalia, as I call it, the rate of transfer payments increased surge to four point nine trillion at an annual rate. In other words, the growth that's the growth. That wasn't the level, that's the growth. The growth was four point nine trillion compared to normally one hundred and

fifty on an annual basis. So the growth rate of spending that was being pumped into the pockets of everybody, employed, unemployed, high income, middle income, low income. Everybody was getting The state and local governments were getting it. In Indian tribes were getting at the Defense Department was getting it. Everybody was getting it. But when you look at the transfer payment element alone, the growth in transfer payments was thirty three times higher than the normal year

to year of game, thirty three times higher. So now do we wonder why the economy got totally disheveled, got knocked out, had killed or so bad. Why the inflation, which allegedly had been too low. I don't buy that, but that's what the FED was saying. In the pre pandemic suddenly soared to seven eight nine percent or even more if you measure it correctly. Well, of course it happened right then and there, when all this

money was randomly, willing, nearly pumped into the economy through legislation. That was sight onseeing. Let me give another illustration of how crazy this was. As I said in the three Bills, March twenty twenty, then December twenty twenty, and then Biden stimulus as soon as he got in the front door of the White House March twenty twenty one. So that's twelve months. Was six point two trillion of new money pushed out through every kind of program imaginable,

no standards, no controls, no accountability. You know, when we could talk about some of these do but just take this number. Six point two trillion pushed out within a twelve month period in which there was practically no hearings, no analysis, no diagnosis of where this might lead. The entire budget of the federal government going into the pandemic. That's say, you know,

fiscal twenty nineteen was four point two trillion. So in that twelve months, now, when I'd say four point two trillion, that's the entire Defense Department, that's all of Social Security, all of medicare, all of Medicaid, all the food stamps, all of arm subsas, all of educated The whole balloax was four point two trillion. It was already, by our lights

out of control. Yet in twelve months Trump sponsored effectively six point two trillion of new spending on top of that, or one hundred and fifty percent more. Now, how in the world can any government responsibly or even rationally spend that much money, you know, on a relative basis, in such a concentrated short period of time. It can't. And so this, this really became the greatest fiscal calamity ever recorded in our history, and we're still living

with it. And that alone disqualifies Trump from ever, in my view, ever being within a country mile of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. He had his shot, he blew it, and he blew it badly, and you know, the Republic has got to find someone else. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I like your term bacchanalia. It really was, you

know, and what he did was it got people. You talk about easy money, you know, it kind of us always talk about, well, the Fed's going to lower interest rates and they're going to do quantitative easing and they're going to print money and all the rest of stuff. I mean, this was way beyond that, and everybody participated directly in it. This is not something's flying through Wall Street or the banks. Everybody participated directly in that.

And I think down the road, you know, we've already had Andrew Yang based his little candidacy on it. Universal basic can come. We had Michael Bloomberg talking about how he's going to pacify people once he took their jobs. Well, you know, Trump took their jobs and gave him a taste of this stuff, and there's going to be this memory in the population. It's like, yeah, remember when that happened back in twenty twenty, and that was really a good time. As you pointed, we didn't have to

work, and you know the money was still there. Yeah, I'm all for universal basic income. And that is a path to slavery, just like all these welfare programs. It's a path to dependency. And so when you look at that, when you look at the medical martial law that was there, and we haven't even talked about what's going to happen with a commercial real estate. You know, they set this time bomb up, locking everything down, closing businesses now, the small mom and pop businesses are not there,

and people not going back to work. This commercial real estate issue is going to unwind through the banking sector as well, isn't it. Yeah, you know, and I like your term. I actually use it my book medical martial law. Good, that's what it was. I got called out by the Daily Beast for that in April. This week of April, they said, look at this conspiracy theorist down here. He's calling this medical martial law.

We've got to lock down. Everybody's going to die. Yeah. Well, I mean, but it was, you know, going back to my number, when you when you shrink the GDP by a third overnight, when you wipe out forty two years worth of growth in one of the biggest job sectors in the economy, If that isn't martial law, I don't know what is okay. And also, you know, martial law has a connotation that it's arbitrary, that it's you know, a dictatorial authoritarian without rhyme or reason,

And that's exactly what happened during the Trump lockdowns. Half of these sectors that were being locked down, like nightclubs and gyms, well those were eldly people. Okay, those were young people and they were told you can't engage in commerce because you know, some older, co morbid person might be impacted. Now that gets into the whole other part of this, with the medical freedom part. And you know Trump would like to say, and I have a quote in the book, by the way, from him, one like

two days. This was two days after the March sixteenth, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve. He said, many of you are going to lose your jobs. You're going to be laid off. But don't worry. Help is on the way. Washington will be sending you money. No,

no, no, he actually he actually tweeted that. And see, this is a big kind of additional point in my book, and that is totalitarian or authoritarian intervention against the constitution, in harm of free markets, in harm of personal liberty is very hard to do in a democratic society where people can react, and they react badly when they're told, you know, how

to live their daily life. But if you try to pay them off, if you try to buy them all off with huge amounts of goodies from the federal treasury, at least you can damp down the political reaction and get away with it for a while. And that's what was really wrong with the six trillion of stimulus money. It was not only a waste, it was not

only creating future inflationary conditions. It was not only massive add on to the public debt, but also it was used to remove the inherent political competition opposition that would have risen up in opposition to the lockdowns. I think the lockdowns wouldn't have lasted through June or May even of twenty twenty had not all this money been pumped out to the public to keep them quiet. And that's a

big lesson for the future. And what that means though, is now, how did Congress get away with passing these bills sit on seat trillions of dollars? We've talked about all this without any kind of check coming from the financial system, I mean, any kind of opposition. The answer is the Fed

monetized it all. If you tried to spend that much money that fast, four and a half trillion dollars with a transfer payment increase overnight, you would have blown interest rates sky high if they had been if the debt to fund that had been financed honestly at the bomb pits. But instead Trump told the Fed and they were happy to oblige go out and buy in debt and over

fist. That's called monetization, okay, and thereby prevent the natural supply demand balance in the bond pits in the financial markets to drive interest rates high. Now, back in my day, when I was a budget director, the one thing that politicians feared was that big deficits would lead to crowding out of private borrowers, homeowners that wanted to mortgage, small businesses that needed to fund working capital or growth, because Uncle Sam's sharp elbows would force interest rates higher

and higher. That was the old crowding out theory, and it was at least one check in balance on the propensity of politicians to spend and borrow. But once we got into the green span era, where the Fed short circuited that mechanism by continuously stepping in and buying billions and tens of billions, one hundred billions worth of bonds, the crowding out thing didn't happen. The bond vigilantes, you know, stayed dormant, and as a result, the politicians

got no signal that you're creating a huge problem here. A huge financial buying and so therefore at the end of the day, the problem goes back to

the Fed. The Fed, it's really the culprit here. The Fed has enabled all of this spending and all of this stimulus spending, enabled all of this lockdown and curtailment of normal economic activity, normal economic freedoms, and you know, and it actually was a form of taking, you know, taking of property without compensation, without you know, any kind of process do process.

And uh so you see how it's all tied together. If we if we want to lose our democratic, uh constitutional system, the best way to do it is to keep the FED in business the way it is today because you know, in other words, it prints enough money to allow the Congress to borrow enough money to basically buy off the public and create the acquiescence that we saw to these terrible lockdowns. Now finally we're coming out from under that.

But as you say, uh, you know, the next thing, you know, they're going to say the climate crisis, which is totally phony, is tho severe air that we've got to go into lockdowns. So we don't you know emit CO two be another another COVID by a different name. Oh yeah, so this, you know, I think we're at a point in time where the lessons are pretty clear and we we can't allow this ever to happen again. I think you nailed it when you said that there's a

FED that enabled all this. We could think of it as really driving the getaway car for this massive bank robbery where the banks rob us. Yeah, so they did they get away car, but they weren't. They weren't driving merely the getaway car. They were driving the getaway train. I mean, they loaded so much pork, so much spending onto those vehicles that it's really kind of startling. I know, people can hear a number this big,

six trillion, It sounds, you know, pretty massive. But I did have the experience of being a congressman and then the budget director for a half decade, and I could tell people six trillion dollars almost in one setting that was, you know, all passed within twelve months. Is an astounding amount of money, and it is certain to have every kind of adverse impact down

the line over time imaginable. And we're just beginning probably to reap some of the harvest from all of that to following At the time, you know, you mentioned the fact that Trump came on and said, I know it's difficult, but don't worry. Help is on the way. Right in the formula. Yes, and everybody you know on the internet you say, blew up because we had the Secretary of Education Cardona, so you know, we even

Reagan said the government is here, We're here to help you. And of course, you know, as you know, he said the I know, I mean I heard that story many times. Yeah, he said, what are the most dangerous words in English language? And the answer, of course, I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you. And that's where Trump is, and that's where the Democrat Secretary of Education is. And so they're all on the same page. They're not how to tell people something.

And yet, you know that's the key thing, you know, when people keep looking at this. Trump opposes in principle everything that conservatives say they believe about economics, everything they think they believe about the Constitution. And we didn't even get into gun control issues and things like that that he kept off setting a precedent and doing that by executive order. So there's all these things

that are conflicts, and yet they continue to give him a pass. So I really do hope that your book, which comes out January the ninth, Trump's War on Capitalism. I hope that can wake some people up because I'll just say one last thing before you know we finished it here, and that is, you know when you said that by financing this, you know what they come out with an order, a mandate that's going to be hard for them to enforce, but if they give it to you with a lot of

cash, sir. And I said that about the twenty twenty election. I said, I'm not voting for this guy. Look what he's done to do us for the last nine months. And you know, he's turned us over to the bureaucracy to be ruled. What do we even have an election for

it? And of course you know they played with the election as well, but you know when you when you look at that, and and I said to people, they said, well, you better vote for Trump because Biden's going to put mandates out there, and he did put out mandates, but I said, what Trump is going to do is he's going to incentivize it.

And I said that's going to be even more dangerous than the mandates because people will look at the mandates and they'll push back against that, and so I guess that's really where we are, you know, when we look at this or other ways to push back against government tyranny instead of who we elect as president. And so perhaps, you know, if whatever happens with the Trump thing, I still think that the most dangerous option is going to be

Trump because people will blindly follow him without questioning anything. They do is they will question anybody else, any other Republican. Certainly the Democrats they will question, but they won't question Trump. And so that's that's really key. You know, just one final point on that. I opened the book by saying, the one admirable quality of Donald Trump is that he had all the right enemies, the Washington Posts in the New York Times, the bi partisan establishment

in Washington. The problem was he had all the wrong policies. He did have the right enemies, he did stir up the establishment to worry about their rule, but he didn't he didn't help resolve that. He actually made it worse by implementing all these policies. Now, the thing is, at the peak of government, there are two dangerous things. One is an excessively ego maniacal person in the oval office. And the other thing is a person utterly

on principled. Okay, so you know, you could say Lyndon Johnson was utterly on principled, and there been any number of egomaniacal presents. But when you put the two together, which is what Trump's problem is, he's an ego maniacal blowhard who is unprincipled and is likely to, you know, dash off in any unpredicted direction, expanding government, expanding borrowing and spending, in the size of the state for no justifiable reason. That's that's the danger.

You don't know where he'll go next. But he proved in March twenty twenty he's totally unreliable as a guardian of all the things that conservatives believe in. Oh, I agree, I agree. And in terms of competency, you can't even run a casino without going bankrupt. Yeah, which is the biggest sucker scam been in the history of business and right. If you can't run a casino in a prophet and fail, how are you going to run anything else. The book is Trump's War on Capitalism, and it's going to be

released on January the ninth, and so take a look at it. It might have some ways for you to convince people to actually hold him to his record and to get them to take him responsibly, be responsible for what he actually did. And that's going to be a task. It's a difficult thing. Nobody wants to oppose Trump. That's that's what's so amazing. It's like

an echo chamber and the press everybody is afraid to criticize him. They want to tailor the news now to a particular demographic rather than to what is actually happening. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for taking on the headwind of the massive Trump movement and trying to poke some holes in this sale with the truth of what he actually did during his four years as president. I think it's much David Stockman, babe with you. Great, Thank

you. All right again, that book is January the ninth, twenty twenty four. We're gonna take a quick break and we will be right back. Stay with us. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Whether you're feeling like the Booze where or bluegrass. APS Radio has you covered. Check out a wide variety of channels on our app at apsradio dot com. All right, welcome back, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. Again, there's no good options at the presidency. So you know when people will

say to you, well, who are you going to vote for? If you don't vote for Trump, you're gonna vote for a Democrat. You support a Democrat getting in there, understand that that actually may wake up more people and that the way we're going to be able to fight this is really at the local level. That's where we have the most leverage, and we saw that throughout twenty twenty that people were able to cope with that at the local

level. Let's talk a little bit about guns and the time that we've got left, there's been some interesting developments in gun control and we've had in San Antonio, they decided to do a gun buy back program, and I think

this is one of the most ingenious responses to it. You've got a guy who's got a large YouTube channel, Brandon Herrera, and he went to the gun buy back show in San Antonio and he holds up a science says, hey, I'm a licensed federal firearms and I will pay you cash, and I'll pay you more than they're going to pay you than the city the police

are going to pay you to buy back the guns. The city was offering people three hundred dollars for semi automatic rifles, two hundred dollars for handguns, one hundred and fifty dollars for a rifle or a shotgun, fifty dollars for malfunctioning or homemade guns. But they gave the people gift cards and they can only use the gift cards at the grocery store HB at one particular grocery store.

Of course, most of the grocery stores in Texas in that area almost them or hib anyway, but again, give you a gift card at HB for this he was giving him cash and so he put the sign up and he had used that on his YouTube channel as well. He was able to get some really good buys because those are not very good prices for the guns. They've had people in the past have shown up with three D printed guns

and got that, so they were wise to that. So you noticed that they had a different tier for what they called homemade guns, but it showed a couple of different things. So the police came out and ran them off and said you can't do it here. This is private property, so we're not gonna let you do this here. But it also shows, as all these things do, that only law abiding citizens are going to show up with this stuff and sell the guns. And then we have the Biden ATF.

And this is the way the headline reads from Zero Hedge. Did Biden ATF expand the definition of suppressor? I understand that Biden's ATF is also Trump's ATF. Nothing is really changing in the same way that you know, we had

what happened at Waco. That was Janet Reno and Bill Clinton. Well, no, actually, these same characters had also been involved in the Randy Weaver shootings and the tail end of the George H. W. Bush administration, and it was the same ATF people, many of them involved in both of those incidents. We have a permanently entrenched, unaccountable, unelected bureaucracy that persists

between these different people. It's one of the reasons why I say, yeah, okay, so it all depends on who's president, does it really? No, We're being ruled by a bureaucracy. You could see that most directly during twenty twenty when the bureaucracy was telling everybody what to do, the medical bureaucracy, but you know, we have all these other bureaucracies that are out there ruling us all the time that never change regardless whoever gets elected president.

And it was Trump who actually accelerated this precedent that we're going to let the ATF do gun control by FIAT. And so now they're doing it again. You know, they changed the definition of bump stock at the urging and the bragging of Trump the Obomba administration. They said, under the Obama administration, the people who are running the ATF at the time said no, we're not going to do anything about the bomb stock. We're fine with those things.

And then Trump once it banned for political posturing, and you can only imagine what he's going to do in his second term when he's thinking about how he will be remembered. He's already pivoting to being a moderate on abortion and many other things. He's going to pivot on all of these issues to make himself look good if he gets elected a second time. And so they redefined a bump stock, they've redefined what a pistol brace is, and they've changed it

the arbitraryly do it. So now they're talking about suppressors or as they're commonly called silencers, and there has been a tactic for you know, they sold things they call a solvent trap trap and it's a way for you to make

a homemade suppressor. Now, of course, if you make it into a suppressor, you still have to pay the two two hundred dollars tax stamp to you know, on an annual basis, to them, just like if you had a fully automatic weapon, you're not fully automatic weapons are not necessarily banned. You have to pay the tax. And that's really what they were coming after David Koresh. They said, well, you've got fully automatic weapons that you haven't paid the tax on, and so it can be deadly if you

violate these ATF rules. And so the suppressors are treated like a fully automatic rifle and you have to if you were to make one from something as many ways that you could make your own. Some people just get something with a screwing attachment and they put on a an oil filter and that's got some issues with it doesn't last too long, or you screw on put on a two liter bottle or something like that. You know, it's a bit awkward,

but it you know, it is a homemade thing. But of course some of the bump stocks and other things like that, but the solvent trap was something you could buy the part, you could put it together yourself, and they were allowing you to then send in your two hundred dollars stamp to have this silence. So now they're going to say that if you do that,

they're going to come after you because they don't recognize that anymore. And so they're just redefining what a suppressor is and what they will accept as a suppressor. So even if you're not going to be able to pay them the two hundred dollars for your homemade suppressor, and they say and the penalty, of course is ten years in prison, up to ten years in prison and a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine, same as being caught with an unregistered

machine gun. Or you may wind up with ATF showing up at your door one day and all of them piling out of the van and start shooting like they did at Waco. The ATF apears to be broadening its definition of suppressors, possibly labeling even end caps as suppressors. The ATF said the end caps by themselves are suppressors, even if an end cap is only part of an end user, if that's the only part that the end user has, I should say The ATF clearly believes that the silencer does not have to be complete

or functional before the owner crosses the line. Just the mere possession of a single part that some other people have used in the past to make a suppressor. But that's the only you got one part of many parts to make a suppressor. They will then send you to jail for up to ten years and a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars five. This is very dangerous precedent.

And of course it always comes back down to language, doesn't it the kind of tyranny that we have seen from the LGBT tyrants in terms of you must say this, you can't say that, but always redefining everything and redefining the language, redefining the terms. That's how they win the arguments, but it's also how they enslave us. The ATF also claims that users was solvent traps cannot legally convert them into suppressors, even if they complete the proper paperwork.

They said the operating the originating company has already created an unregistered suppressor by just creating the solvent trap, and they didn't go through the appropriate steps to transfer it. So once those steps are skipped, they can never be made legal in the eyes of the ATF. Well, if you have you know the principle, I guess is something that's the fruit of a poisonous tree. Right.

We see that over and over again, except that if we apply those same standards to the ATF that we apply to the creation of a solvent trap or suppressor, we see the ATF and everything that it does is the fruit of a poisonous tree. Since there is no authority for the ATF to exist, then everything they do is essentially the fruit of a poisonous tree, they

said. Over the years, many companies involved in making such solvent traps have asserted that they are permitted to manufacture, transport, or import these items because they're not yet complete and therefore do not qualify as a firearms silencer under federal law. However, this is incorrect, says the ATF, because a component of a firearms silencer need not be fully functional before it is recognized as a

part intended only for use in assembling or fabricating a firearms silencer. So again, this is an Orwellian line that has been crossed for this gun controlled dictatorship or gun control comes out of their mouth. It's bad enough when we have gun control was being conducted by our elected representatives. But now this is the

bureaucracy, and we can think precedent Trump for doing that. They want to felonize a gun ownership basically by regulation, and we have regulation without even representation, and they do it in direct response and direct opposition. I should say

to the Second Amendment as everything that the ATF does. When you look at how they are approaching all this stuff by going after little things like bump stocks and pistol braces and now the suppressors as you call them, a ghost suppressor something like that, right, talking about ghost guns, and Jason Barker has

talked about that a great deal. They're going after these things that are not you could say that they're fringe issues, right, and by going after these fringe issues to infringe on the on the Second Amendment, it's all this this gun control around the edges, right that of coming out and directly banning they commonly used guns and the commonly used ammunition. They're going around these things on the edges, and it really is infringement, isn't it, which is prohibited

by the Second Amendment. But again, everything that the ATF does is an infringement of your god given rights that they were told not to infringe upon. We don't get our rights from the Second Amendment. Our rights are there because we are a human. So again a very disturbing precedent that keeps another gift from Trump that keeps on giving. On Rock Finn, Sergei Droban, thank

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Peggy. It'll come to me eventually. But anyway, she was a speech writer and she wrote some good speeches, but of course totally disconnected. And when you look at a candidate, you know, there was hope that because Trump had never been a politician before he had no record except for his many donations and all of his support for Hillary Clinton. That was troubling.

But if somebody identifies the right issues, as David Stockman said, he had all the right enemies, and he had identified all the he had said the right things about all the right issues that needed to be opposed. But of course he did everything wrong, and he brought those enemies of them into his cabinet and put them in charge of things, and then they became his enemies as he kicked them out. But anyway, Solo Cats says, their actions

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