28Dec23 David Knight Show Unabridged

Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes thirteen, we gather once more. You're an airstrip one. I'm Gardner Goldsmith, filling in for David Knight on the David Knight Show. Welcome one and all on this twenty eighth day of December, Year of

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after something I discussed last night in the program. This Gaza and the ghastly state of Ethics. I will give you a follow up to a little something that I mentioned. They're combined here on the program and the David Night Show because I mentioned that this man Douglas Murray, who's a British writer, British

commentator, was on with Pierce Morgan as the host. I think the show is called Uncensored over in the UK, and they had Sank Junger or Unger or Uger from the Young Turks, the inaptly named, very very poorly named program that unfortunately reminds people of the Armenian genocide. And I don't think I've

ever found an opportunity to agree with Sank Junger. And again I'm not trying to pick a side on the Israeli Gaza issue, but I've always found that over the past few months here a lot of the pro deep State or conservatives, the very pro Israel Zionist State of Zion of Israel supporters, often will not discuss or are not aware of, maybe perhaps both, many major aspects in the history of the establishment of the State of Israel and what it has

done in encroaching into Palestine and has continued to do to many of the people there, including holding many of them hostage. And so yesterday I mentioned that Douglas Murray got into it with Saint Unger or Uger, and a lot of folks were commenting on Twitter slash x that he just destroyed Sank from the young Turks. I mean, it was a devastating takedown. Well, I had a bit of a different opinion about that, and I went through this twenty

minute video last night. I went through about seventeen minutes of the video last night on my program we went extended and for like an extra half hour. I went through this, and I'd like to show you segments of that because i'd like to get your thoughts on this to see whether you think I was fair to Douglas Murray and you think I was fair to Sink and some of

the things that you might have heard that maybe I don't know. So we'll talk about Gaza and the ghastly state of ethics, as they might say, as the King Charles must say, the ghostly state of ethics, yes says, which one of my houses is empty today? Oh that's all right. Climate change doesn't get affected by that, because of course we all know it's a canad pip Cheerio carry on with the canad Then we're going to discuss a

follow up as well about Deborah Burkes. In fact, I'm going to push that up in the program to get right to that very very quickly in the first probably half hour of the show. And I want to get your thoughts in Rock Finn and Rumble. Thank you very much for joining us over there, everybody. I really appreciate that. We'll check in with your comments, and don't forget, of course, if you want to leave comments for David and wish him a good vacation, that's always a pleasure, really appreciated.

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of the major stories. What's going to be the first one, Well, for that we get to turn back to England, not necessarily to the King, but we can just take a couple letters off of that, one letter off of that, and add two more and we turn it into a state of confusion coming out of California from the Kinks, Confused. I like this videos as Ray Davies plays his guitar, supposedly mouths to the song but of course drops the guitar. It's just it's pretty funny. It's a great little

video state of confusion, and boy, what a terrific band. Uh. Sort of very much along the lines of people who are angle philes still still loving the Kinks and wishing that the Davies brothers would get back together again. They were the form runners of the Oasis Brothers. Right. Well, here's the story out of California, and Red State covers this fairly well. I got to discuss this last night on my Liberty Conspiracy program, of course,

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Awesome, So here's the story out of California from Red State. I do have some quibbles with this, but I want to let Ward Clark open things up. Word Clock and whoever the editor was. They tell us this California to find stores without gender neutral toy sections. So stores that don't create according to the dictates of the politicians what the politicians want to make them do in their stores will be fined, which, as I mentioned on my program last

night, that's called fascism. Yes, that's fascism. It is the mix of business, corporate interests, and government. Sometimes government plays favorites with those corporations. The corporations give the feedback loop of helping the government and institute their policies through the so called marketplace, which is no longer a marketplace, or the government will punish those businesses, find them so called regulate them. Isn't

that a wonderful euphemism? If only the mafia could use those terms. Hey, boss, I went over the other day and I went down to Parcheesi's cheese shop. Yeah. Yeah, and you know I told him, I said, I said, hey, hey, you don't do what we're gonna what we want you to do. We're gonna threaten you. Oh listen, Vinnie, Vinnie kid, I know you knew here. Yeah, Boss, I did what you said. No, no, not quite, not quite. We're adopting a new way of doing things, a new way. That's

right. It's like that Band of Horrors saying about the new way. Well, what's the new way? Boss? The new way is something you might have seen in oh, I don't know, Nazi Germany. It's national socialism, national socialism. Yeah, it's sort of like this fascist combination of like, you know, the government just dominates everything. In this case, we're going to go to Italy and talk about Mussolini. His idea of getting the

government involved with everything had to do with what he called fascism. It was the old Roman fascis. When you combine them, they're stronger. Of course, the thing combining them is the central authority with its central plans, which is always really dumb. But for us it's okay because we're the mob. Hey, boss, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's right, Vinny. So here's the deal. We're no longer using terms like point guns that you threaten, you man handle, you rob from you. No, no,

no, we got terms that they use in government. These are the sorts of things that Edward Brenets would have written about and his book Propaganda. Oh you know, you sound a little bit like Anthony Fauci, Senator Paul I resent your implication. What oh sorry, sorry, I just I just bounced away to the Senate there for a minute when I was testifying in line through my teeth. But anyway, Uh yeah, so we hear in the mafia are using new terms like, oh, you know, regulate, regulate.

That's right. It's the same thing as tell somebody to do what you want them to do, or you're gonna break them down and shut them down. But it sounds nice. Edward Barnetes, You know, Brenees is not like a sauce that you get on a sandwich or something. Brene's sauce. Well, it's a sauce of a sort. It's a horse of a different color. Oh that's great, boss. Yeah, let's see how this regulation stuff is doing in California. Ah, I hear California is doing really great.

Boss. Yeah, for the mafia, it is all right. Here we go. That's your little excursion. Here's the story from Red State. It seems like scarcely a day goes by without news of more California lunacy. Now it's toys. No more toys, as the burgermeister meister Berger would say, and if he was Rainbow, he'd say, toys for gender neutral I command it. Now it's toys, writes Red State. The government of the state of California, having solved every other problem vexing the people of that state,

is set now to find read that punish. Good job, mister Ward, good job Red State. I dig what you're going with. I do have some quibbles though, so called regulate stores that is shoe carrying woke gender neutral toys. So what I think is pretty darn funny here, okay, is that for many of the youngest kids, they're not even they can't even tell the difference. It's the parents, right, They're like, yeah, the kids will be attracted to what they want. They're not going to be reading

labels. And I don't know about you, but I could always tell the difference between the boys section and the girls section. I didn't go to the girls section. I'm going to walk through the girls section to get my plan under the apes action figures in the boys section next to the Tanka trucks. But here's the story, originally from Fox News. Red State quotes California stores with more than five hundred employees. And by the way, I covered this

when this first past. I wrote about this for MRCTV. So when I saw this, the alarm bells came to me and they said, hey, buddy, remember this one, and I thought, oh, yeah, it's coming January first. I wrote about it, Thank you, MRCTV team, and I didn't even mention everybody. You can find my work for MRCTV at mrctv dot org. Check out what the whole team does there. It's the Media Research Center in their thirty seventh year of battling left wing bias in the

pop media. California stores, writes Fox News, with more than five hundred employees, will soon be fined for not having a gender neutral toys section once a new state law kicks in January. First. The bill signed in twenty twenty one by Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom. I wonder if he did that at that beastrow the French laundry while he shut down everybody and hung out with people instead for his birthday when he shouldn't have according to his own dictats. You

know, the Mafia's what's good for them is not good for you. Gavin Newsom will four stores that sell childcare items or toys to paint a five hundred dollars fine should the store fail to create a so called gender neutral toys section

for kids twelve years old and under. What they ought to do is like put a bunch of like really ugly things there, like nasty stuff like old toilet paper rolls, you know, like just the cardboard rolls and stuff like that, just let you know, like, ah, here's a just second, see if anybody buys it us our gender neutral here you go. A childcare item according to the legislation text. Literally the government is talking about what

is a childcare item? That is how far it has come. And I'll get into the major facet for me, and I'll discuss, of course what might be the major facet to other people. I'm not sure. Both of them are very vexing, but one of them I think gives us a long term lesson constitutionally functionally. The other gives us a long term lesson when it comes to things like the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism, the long term march

of the Fabian Socialists. A childcare item, according to the wonderful people in Sacramento, the state capital of California, is any product designed or intend by the manufacturer to facilitate sleep, relaxation, or the feeding of children, or to help children with sucking or teething. Traditional boys and girls sections won't be outlawed. Well, isn't that magnanimous of them? How sweet? They won't be banned by the government, but a gender neutral section must also be created.

So you politicians in Sacramento, following that wonderful example of the San Francisco Assemblyman Scott Wiener, the guy, as I mentioned, let's go into the Fabian Socialist mess up the family aspect of this first. Scott Wiener was behind this bill as well as many others. He also is one of the people who from in San Francisco. You've seen him marching around in the Rainbow parades and stuff like that. He also helped get passed just a few months ago,

which is in that direction. Just a few months ago in California, maybe that direction for you. He also got passed two statutes. One is a statute that allows any child who is in a family that is getting some sort of state or federal medical care help like Medicaid, to run away from the family, to leave the family and join a state house somewhere, some state run agency for kids and ask to be put up by that state agency, ask to be separated from the parents, ask for his so called liberation

from the parents. Even if the kid is underage, the parents can't do anything, and even before the child might be so called liberated, the child can get hooked up with a state provided psychiatrist psychologist who will then provide the opportunity for the child to start getting body mutilation, to then address the child's gender identity problem, as they say, to give that child so called gender identity care while the parents are fighting to get the child back. That's what

Scott Wiener is like. Okay. He also was behind a bill that they passed in California that makes California a so called sanctuary state for outside runaways coming from other states in the Union who run to California. They are now saying they don't have to extradite a return that runaway underage kids if they've come to

California for reasons of gender identity. Seriously, that is Scott Wiener. Those are the mindsets of the people now telling other people who risk their money, risk their time, risk their opportunities to do other things, to open up toy stores, whether it's big corporations or small one man, one lady shops, whatever it might be, right, and now they're telling them, not only we are categorizing the stuff you're selling, we're going to tell you how

to sell the stuff. But of course, on many different gradations, this is what government on every level does, whether it's licensing, which is massively, massively unethical to say, well, you know, you can't participate in the peaceful activity of offering something to someone else who can take it or leave it, and competing against others to lower price, increase quality and longevity of your product or service. You can't do that unless you get our government permission.

Because somehow, when we get elected, we think we magically represent, as Rousseau might have said, the will, the general will, and we're somehow infallible. Meanwhile, Rousseau did not want what he called the will of all, which was actually individuals, you determining what you found valuable and laying down your money for that, so that you could actually expose what you found

valuable. Other people could see it and they could respond to it in that way the free market, and then you get people competing saying, wow, there's some profit over there. I'll shift my behavior and start doing that because it seems like people like that. More so, you're servicing, as Adam Smith said, through the invisible hand to help yourself, you're actually servicing other people and their needs because they're showing their needs in the interaction. They can't

have that in California toy stores. They can't have that in so many aspects of our lives. They can't label things on a national level the way we want to. Meanwhile, the FDA is working with giant farmer corporations to hide information. Meanwhile, the government officials appointed by Donald Trump and others like Joe Biden later on, are hiding information and lying to us explicitly, while other branches of the government are working to suppress our information and silence us using our

own money. If you're not familiar with my work over at MRCTV, David Night has mentioned this. I've mentioned this on my program. We are almost always at least once a month, as sailed by NewsGuard. NewsGuard a combination creation many years ago by people at Microsoft and others funded we discovered thanks to the Twitter files exposure, funded by money that came from something called the Portman Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act, which was floated around in twenty sixteen as they

tried to gin up this fear of Russia. It was put into the twenty sixteen National Defense Authorization Act because of course everything has to get thrown in there. You just got to throw it in like you know, some stew it's mostly poison, and Barack Obama signed it. It gave seventy five million dollars per year for two years to media outlets that the government at the DoD determined we're fighting on the farign propaganda. Some of that money went to NewsGuard.

I have spent hours responding to Newsguards. I won't call them entreaties, I'll call them missives, notes of annoyance to tell us that they're going to downgrade MRCTV on their list of websites where people might want to go to advertise and they have massive sway because they're carried on many Microsoft search engines and stuff on what is it bing or whatever that sort of thing, so they get suppressed. Right if you're using Edge browser, right, you have an option,

I think if you want to use that. NewsGuard is big and they would hurt MRCTV. And the only problems with the stories for them they just didn't take the time to click my hyperlinks and actually see where I cited the information because I don't want to embarrass myself putting out stories that I can't support. Duh, it's amazing, you know. It's like, hey, if you want longevity in something and you want to deal honestly with people, maybe the

honest thing might be the first thing on your mind. You might want to give people information and they can compare and refer and then that will give you the longevity, just like any product. So these people don't want to open their own shops in California. They don't want to compete. Maybe there is

a market for this. No, instead they're promoting this cultural Marxism. Find a new David all the time, and you will be the supposed protector of the little guy, and there's always going to be a new minority, a new victim. As I said, anybody who tuned in to any of those awful, just insufferable Oprah Winfrey shows almost every day, they were celebrating how they overcame their victimhood while actually promoting the idea that they were victims and getting

more people to think, oh, maybe I'm a victim. It was the culture of victimology writ large. It was absolutely vile, and that's part of the way that she made her money, appealing to people who say, oh, yes, I do am a victim, and then that leads into politics because the cultural Marxists take advantage of that and they always say, just like Marx tried to say, he was fighting for the working guy, working guy. Meanwhile, he was getting his money from Engels's father's textile plant while he

was writing saying that the Industrial Revolution and plants like that were evil. That's where he was getting his money to write the Communist Manifesto. Unbelievable. It's just the hypocrisy is amazing. So these people don't want to be peaceful, they want to do this. Now, let's go to the constitutional side of

things just very quickly. If I'm in an electure, Hall. I always try to bring up this very important functional side of things, and this California story is a great leap point to offer information about all these things, whether it be about licensing and the economic moral problem. If you are in a state and they're licensing, let's say they wanted to license interior designers. Seriously,

they wanted to license interior designers. What that does is it gives the interior designers, who already have businesses and larger margins, the ability to be able to pay the fees and exclude lower price competition. That then harms poorer people. Poorer people can't get the service now Previously, if there weren't licensing, if there weren't all these regulations, they might not be able to get the top notch service from the person who's been there the longest and can charge

the most as the greatest skills. But they might have been able to get something hair stylists, barbers, whatever. And it's not up to the state to protect you from your own decisions. First of all, that's incredibly arrogant, and second of all, the arrogance also applies to any concept of the state. This is why I am a voluntarist I'm an agorist, or some might call a Christian anarchist. I believe that there should be anarchy, no

ruler. And if you're going to have something like that, then don't fall for the canard of so called self government that they call that that they use when they say that you're living in a place of an experiment of self governance, because self governance is you governing yourself, not falling prey to the dictats of the tyranny. And the majority, even if it's siphoned through is so called representative democratic republic and a constitution, because as we've seen, the constitution

hasn't really protected many people. It's protected some, it's fallen flat often, I'll say it that way. And also the politicians swear ohes to it and they really don't seem to care, do they. In addition to that, if we look at it technically logically abductive logic, if we look at the empirical and we look at the inductive and deductive logic can combine them. We can see that the constitution was something I never signed and you never signed.

And the people who signed the constitution and adopted it, they can't do that for us we never gave them our acquiescence and permission to do something on our behalf. And if we did, mathematically it would be impossible because representation through a political system is impossible because the police only operates through force. That is

the difference between a government and a private business institution. If everything were voluntary, it wouldn't be a state because you would have chosen to hire somebody to do what you want. So this idea of so called protection against oh, unlicensed hairstylists anything like that, in order to even engage in something that some people think, well, there might be a risk, maybe he might clip

an ear and you know, cause blood, something like that. Again, even if you think that that is something that should be policed by the state, in order for you to get that police action to go in and inspect that person and tell him, now, you must do this, you must do that, you must do this, you must do that, rather than letting the market decide. And if these people are bad, they will go follow and have to do something else, like everything else, like a talk

show. If you don't like it, you'll go someplace else. If you like it, you'll promote it. You'll say, hey, i've heard something I enjoy, right, I like the personality this person, I like the

audience that sort of thing. Well, just like that. Instead, government engages in not just forcing that person to do what he says to do what the government says to the politicians, but it also now forces somebody else who's not even part of it, might not be even interested in going to a barber like me, I don't have to go to barber's to have to know, pay for the policing of that. That too, is immoral. It's

an immoral imposition done through the state, supposedly under self governance. Well, the person who's now being taxed to pay for the police system to handle this or the inspection of these toy stores, what does he care. He should be left alone to decide where and when and how he wants to spend his time, his money, and his thoughts. So this is a big deal. Finally, when we look at the constitution, because this story from Red

State exposes a very important point. This supposedly applies to stores with more than five hundred employees, right, and I remember that, So it's not just the single person. I remember when I wrote that. That's right. So if you look at the US Constitution, there is a great lesson that can be drawn from this to round off this simple story from California, which is not so simple. It's an impediment, it's an imposition, and it's immoral.

We'll talk about morality in Gaza and Douglas Murray in just a minute. But the Constitution has within it what is called the contract clause. And if you look at the lockdowns that were imposed by state legislatures and governors thanks to Donald Trump's ridiculous, completely unconstitutional, so called executive order of an emergency on March thirteenth, twenty twenty, for something that was labeled a pandemic which was

not a pandemic. The case rates were heightened because of faulty PCR tests that they ginned up to many many cycles and would have found it positive for anything that they were looking for. The death rate was ginned up because the federal government, as Debor Burks admitted at the White House in April of twenty twenty, they were literally paying and USA Today confirmed this. I have a hyperlinked NewsGuard. It's hyperlinked in many of my articles, so you can find it.

USA Today said, yes, they do incentivize to the tune in some cases of thirty thousand dollars per patient if the hospital puts them on ventilators, and of course lists a death as death from COVID, not just with a faulty PCR test. Possibly, so any numbers that people are looking at regarding the death numbers in any nation state are unreliable. No one will ever know how many people died from the cowl bunka virus, right, And even the

virus was not actually identified based on coxpostulates. It was put together based on computer algorithms in a lab. That's how they identified it with substrates. So with all those problems, let's just think about this. The lockdowns telling people you are essential, you are not essential. We're going to stop you from engaging in your business. The United States Constitution, and again i'm an anim kiss, I think the constitution. If they could get closer to the constitution,

that would be great. Decentralization would be great. Fewer command and control from central authority ideas harm fewer people if there were mistakes, and they're easier to escape if you've got a decentralized system. If they high talked about this a great deal. The information problem is inherent in all centralized systems. So if you've got dispersed information, let the people that are closer to the information make the decisions with it. And it's not even my choice to let them.

They have the freedom and the right to be able to do that. That's the point. You don't impose your will on others. That's the simple moral predicate. But the contract Clause of the Federal Constitution. And I would rather have the Articles of Confederation or even perhaps a monarchy because then I would know who my enemy was. But or no government my preference. That would

be my great choice, like the Brehon laws system in Ireland. But the Constitution has what's called the contract clause, which prohibits any state legislation or governor from imposing basically any state government from imposing from breaching the fulfillment of a pre agreed to private contract. So if there is a business agreement, say you

are supposed to deliver your pizzas someplace for a pizza party on Saturday. You've got a contract, You've got employees, You've got agreements with the employees where they don't have to wear masks. It was never part of the agreement. They don't have to not come in and work from home. That was not part of the agreement. Those impositions from any state would be contrary to the contract clause just like this one is just like this one. That's the state

of confusion, very very very sad. Now, let's talk a little bit about economics, because as these people impose their impositions, getting harder and harder and harder to do business, thanks to of course, not just Joe Biden, but also Donald Trump with his two trillion dollar Cares Act in twenty twenty, the PPP giving money to all sorts of people. I wrote a piece

about this for MRCTV. Yes, not just theaters and Jared Kushner, friends of Jared Kushner, that sort of thing, but also bands like the Smashing Pumpkins and I believe nickelback because they couldn't go on tour. Okay, So the government imposes these impositions to go stay into Canada, to go into Mexico. You got to be jabbed. The Canadians do this to come into the

United States. They do this for truckers. They shut down the supply lines, making prices skyrocket, even as they're increasing the money supply by trillions of dollars and decreasing the buying power of every unit of money that is out there. The inflation and the money supply is inflation. The price increases are what

the journalists typically call inflation. That's not the inflation. You might call it price inflation, but that's resultant of the inflation which causes many many errant investments malinvestment. It causes people to take risks that they normally wouldn't take to expect that their business is going to be booming in the future, so they invest in new things like R and D, new employees, and then as people on the consumer side start to see their prices skyrocket, they pull back their

spending. And the people who now invested in all this stuff have it sitting fallow. So they've got to liquidate it a as they said at the end of The Wizard of Oz, you liquidated or a very resourceful Those resources have to be brought down in price to a price that more closely reflects the resources. We're going through the process now as jobs are being cut all over the place, including as I mentioned, for MRCTV, the toy the second largest

toy maker in the world, Hasbro. Hasbro just cut one hundred workers. GM got rid of half of its buick dealerships recently fifty percent of its buick dealerships because the buick dealerships protested being forced to have to take evs, which of course are subsidized by the federal government. Let's talk about money right now, my friends, and turn to our friends, the fake band. You know them, You gotta love them. Stop wasted that you knew what you

knew what I need? Oh maybe you don't do have to come by that out there, tell you have somebody can't beat it? Or does the government think that we are fools and clowns. Well, let's let's take the positive side. Let's go the high road and turn their political frowns upside down. Everyone. Well, we got to give you some bad news first, So let's get to the national debt. This comes from just the News, and

here is their report. The national debt has jumped more than six trillion dollars from Biden's first term compared to slightly over three trillion during the same timeframe of Trump's term. Now, some people might think that, oh, well, this shows us that Trump is so much better. No, it doesn't necessarily show you that because Trump helped put everybody on this railroad track and set the locomotive going. The US national debt has increased twice as fast under President Joe

Biden as of December twenty twenty three compared to former President Donald Trump. According to data released by the Congressional Budget Office the CBO, the national debt has grown by more than six trillion during Biden's first term, compared to slightly over three trillion. Sorry, I should be like doctor Evil trillion dollars during the same timeframe during Trump's term in office. Biden took office on January twenty, twenty twenty one. Oh and what a day that was, wasn't it?

When the national debt stood at twenty seven point seven trillion. Today, the national total debt is close to thirty four trillion. And by the way, they are accruing almost a trillion dollars in debt servicing. That's interest on the debt every quarter. Now, Ah, that's awesome. What keeps growing goverment and debt? That's nothing like the Land of the Free and that self government. Ah, you're born into dead slavery. Hello, freedom child, Okay,

it's like freedom fries. Just rename it. It makes it completely different. Today, the total national debt is close to thirty four trillion dollars. Oh man, Okay. The CBO projected that the deficit would average two trillion dollars for fiscal year twenty twenty four. That's the deficit bringing the national debt to thirty six trillion dollars on October first, twenty twenty four, which is the end of the US government's twenty twenty four fiscal year. If it makes

it that long, I probably will. Former President Donald have got the best debt. Donald Trump took office on January twentieth, twenty seventeen, when the national debt stood at nineteen point nine trillion. At the end of December twenty nineteen, the national debt grew to slightly over twenty three trillion. So, just to give you from some perspective, those numbers, of course are big, massive numbers. The total national debt close to thirty four trillion dollars.

When Biden took office, it stood at twenty seven point seven trillion. Okay, I think we all pretty much get Yeah, it's growing, it's growing big time. What about the face of this, Well, let me give you one example here. As I go into my Twitter feed. This comes from Fox News. I saw this last night and I thought I would offer

this to you because it gives you a face. It gives you an idea of what some people are facing, the face of a person who's facing possibly no longer being able to do what she wanted to do for and has been doing for thirty some years. So let me give this to you from Fox News. It's about a woman who's a baker in Minnesota. So let's check

it out from Fox. Here's the story. Great supposed to celebrate its thirtieth anniversary this week, but instead it is closing its doors over the rising cost of doing business, and the owner is now pleading for donations to keep her bakery afloat. Tammy Cabrera is the owner of Muddy Paws Cheesecake and she joins me, Now, Tammy, I'm sorry this has happening to you. What

was the final straw for you? Well, good morning. And with the combination of the last two years of the ingredient prices rising and supplies like boxes, deliveries, things like that, and that combined with debt coming into the last two years, it came to a point where I just couldn't straddle both

the debt and the high ingredient prices. So those of us in the bakery world, we work on really small margins as it is, and then when you add prices that raise that rise really quickly or greatly, it's hard to Uh, it's hard to do business. Let's look at some numb prices for key baking ingredients like eggs, milk, sugar, flour, butter have all

increased at least fifteen percent since December of twenty twenty. In your thirty years in business, Tammy, have you ever seen price hikes like this on your ingredients? I have not. They're well, let's just put my face on there, rather than there are two to five times higher and what they've ever been seen price hikes like this on your ingredients? I have not. They're asked them if they're two to five times higher than what they've ever been for

us, And the simple answer might be to raise your prices. But you can only raise your prices so much for you lose customers or you're not competitive, So you get stuck in that middle part. And when you have debt like we do, going into that, we just can't move forward without hell yeah. I mean, how much of that increase to your point can you ultimately pass on to the customers? Is it five percent? Is a ten percent? Like what number can you do without driving those customers away? Tammy?

Yeah? I would say like five percent is probably the greatest I can go. Our customers are also our friends. Like when you're in business for thirty years, you're part of people's weddings and birthdays and stories and you get to know them, and they come in and they come in every celebration and we get to know them. So I want to be walking that fine line of making it where they can still get cheesecake, but then also that we

can stay in business. And you are just one of many small businesses struggling. Does it feel like the system just doesn't support small businesses right now? And if so, why, Like who do you blame? Yeah? I believe it's my not just bakeries or food providers, but other small businesses are

facing high prices in all different ways. I don't know exactly where the blame falls, but I do feel like we fall through the cracks and in receiving help, you know, And it'd be nice if if cities would help in lots of ways, like maybe advertising and and I don't I'm not really sure if all the ways they can help it. I do feel like there's there's room for that. So there's unfortunately a bit of a problem. See, that's the thing. As as Harry Brown used to say, government is good

at doing two things. I think it's three. You said, breaking your legs and then providing crutches for you and saying, see, if it weren't for me, you wouldn't be able to walk around. That's really three things. And I think there's another one, which is expecting you to be grateful. So she's she's, well, can't the government help? No, No, that's that's not that's not the right idea because in trying to help this woman, what would the government be doing. They'd be using money from other

people, right, future generations probably if there's debt. So what she's doing here is saying I'm being harmed by government. Then they're saying, well, couldn't there be an answer? The answer is get government out of it. Right. Let's take an opportunity to talk a little bit about the minimum wage. There's a very interesting story from Fast Company that shows us just how much people seem to love fascism by dictating how much someone's work is worth to a

consumer. And there's a lesson in this for economics that is very important. A lot of people think that the employer is the boss, the consumer is the boss. The consumer actually is the employer. The consumer is the one who employs the typically seen, traditionally seen employer and that employer's employee staff. And we're all free to decide. We should be what we want to buy, what we want don't want to buy. If we don't want to help

this woman with her advertising, we shouldn't be forced to do so. That just compiles more immorality on the already larger problem of getting things to her. The supply chain, as I mentioned, becoming more expensive. Minimum wage increases for twenty twenty four is this in your state, my friends? Starting January first? Some workers in twenty two states will see a raise next week on January first, I see. And then what will happen? Are their jobs

really worth it? What will the consumer do? As she says, there are certain things that the consumers just won't buy. They'll either find alternatives or they just will do without. In total, an estimated nine point nine million work will see additional wages thanks to the increased rate, equating to six point ninety five billion dollars in wages, according to an analysis from the Economic Policy

Institute. Now, some people would say, oh, that's great, people making six point ninety five billion dollars more, right, But I'm sure you know, and you could tell this to a class sometime and get up in front of the class and teach that's six point ninety five billion dollars that is being redirected from other options. As Frederick Bastia said, it is the broken

window fallacy what is seen and what has not seen. Opportunity cost the term in economics, of course, where you're now having an opportunity to spend your money that you could have saved by buying something for less on something else. You can't spend it on something else. You can't employ that other person now. And if it's going to go up, why go up by this much? Why not go up even more? Why not make it sixty billion more in wages? Why won't that be helpful? Isn't that going to be better?

Perhaps it's because it makes labor too expensive. That's a major factor in the production process. All your factors of manufacturing have to be considered, which is one of the reasons why just like ancient cave men used to use tools without even designing them, but just sort of figuring out that a lever might help one guy push something or lever it away, or an inclined prane. Incline plane would let one guy lift something up that used to take two guys,

because now it's covering more distance. Rather than going perpendicularly up, you're going at an angle, so there's more distance, but a smaller unit of smaller units of force inside each measure of distance, so it's easier for one and do it. You've now freed up somebody. Some people would say, oh, that means that the second guy is unemployed. The second guy is free to be more productive. That's the point. We don't want to work harder for what we want to get. We want to work less for what

we want to get. And that's something that even ancient people did. As I said, they didn't burden themselves by having pregnant women go on the hunt. They had division of labor. Even in caveman days, old guys weren't out there on the hunt. They were back in the caves skinning, and as they did what they did best, they had division of labor they could then do early bartering. Bartering becomes difficult when you have third parties, fourth

parties and so on. You have to keep going around trying to figure out who wants what and who might take what, so you have to go to extra parties. So people often find something that is commonly valued by many people. They start to recognize, well, you know what, most people like this, and they will trade to get stores of that and then use that as their unit of currency, which is the creation of money. It's not dictated to us by kings. Right. So here we've got the idea that

first the government or the government granted monopoly, can issue the money. And of course in order to let the government keep playing favorites with people, to pander to them, like giving money to Solindra and Protera, the EV battery manufacturer that was so loved by Jennifer grant Holm when she was governor of Michigan.

All those pandering things, airports, highway funds, school funds, medicare, medicaid funds, whatever interest group it might be, right, or even the funds to police toy stores now in California, those funds have got to be generated somehow, and people will resist if their tax be on a certain point. So states engage in borrowing. They float bonds, and someone's got to buy them. Well, that typically is the Federal Reserve or branches of

the government themselves. Strangely enough, they'll do that. So the Federal Reserve creates new money and buys the bonds. When those bonds have to be paid off, the Feds have to issue new bonds to pay off the old bonds, and the Fed will buy the new bonds. So it's a giant Ponzi scheme. It's a giant shell game, you might say, and it all is part of doing this sort of thing. In this case, we see the fascism mandating that the businesses extract six point nine to five billion dollars from

consumers. If consumers are willing to pay it, maybe they won't. And it's just a terrible thing that's being done to so many potential employees because people on the low end won't have skills that will match what the consumers are willing to pay, so they'll either lose their jobs or they'll never be hired. Those opportunities now are lost. As Frederick Bastias said in his Broken Window Fallacy essay, the parable of the broken window, when a politician was saying,

well, look that broken window, that's actually a benefit. That storm broke that window. But that'll give work to the glazier, Isn't that fantastic? Basia said, All you're doing is redirecting the flow of that usable capital from where the person who earned it might have wanted to spend it to better his life. Now he's going to spend it just to repair the window, just to remain where he was before. He's not progressing, he's not increasing his

living standard, he's just maintaining. And you're losing sight of the person who could have received that in that new business. That's what government does. It is by its nature breaking your windows, and that's axiomatic. You can't escape that. And so these decisions should be made based on productivity and whether the employees are providing something to consumers. And they always demonize the employer. Should

should the consumer be demonized? Should people be going out and protesting and saying we want the consumer um to pay more? How dare you be money grubbing consumers? Trying to save well, that's all the employers trying to do is trying to provide the best product of people. And if he can't provide a good wage to the employees, there'll be another business that'll crop up, especially

if consumers have extra money left over to spend on another business. Let's see what's happening in another country right now as we look at economics a little bit more. Let's see what happens when you get central banks, whether it's a central government issuing the money like the Roman government. They used to call the coins in shaved silver off the coins, reissue new, reissue the old coins, claiming they were worth just as much, and then use the money that

they shaved off to help pay their debts. As they had their giant hegemonic empire expanded all the way up into the United Kingdom. So let's talk about I guess they never made it to Wales. They got repelled by the Welsh barbarians. Very interesting, it's very good to Edgar Rice Burrows novel I Am a Barbarian talking about being from that area and going down and fighting in Rome.

But let's talk about the extension of the Roman Empire a little bit right now, central banking and where they might be going in a nation state just north of here where I am in New Hampshire. What's there? How about that Declaration of Rights and Freedoms in Canada. Yeah, justin Trudeau really respected

that you engaged in his emergency before they even voted on it. And by the way, there's one last vestige of the British government that's supposed to supposed to have a final say as to whether or not they can engage in an

emergency and even emergency orders under Trudeau. Even then, the emergency orders that they passed after their Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada, it contradicts with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. For example, in Canada, you're supposed to, according to their Charter of Rights and Freedoms that was revised in the eighties, you're supposed to be able to travel from province to province unmolested by the government. Guess what Trudeau and some of the provincial governors did. Yeah,

that's right. And central troops just like I mentioned yesterday on the David Night Show and I've mentioned on my show, in the US Constitution, Article four, Section four allows for the militia to be called up by the federal government if a state legislature or a governor has asked for the militia to come in to help preserve their so called constitutional government from invasion or violence. And Greg Abbott has done that, and now the governor of Arizona, a Democrat,

has also done that, and Biden's not responding. In Canada, the provincial governors are supposed to be the ones who they have to ask for the federal soldiers military to come in before those soldiers in military can come in. So it's quite interesting. It's analogous to the United States Constitution. Let's talk about what's going on in Canada. As politicians in Canada creep closer to universal basic income and they get closer to CBDC. Here's professor Pete saint Oje.

Pete Saint Ange has done excellent work and he's been an advisor for the Heritage Foundation of all things, and he's probably one of their strongest free real free market type people at Heritage. Heritage isn't bad, but I much prefer the mesas institute. Heritage is a much more sort of almost rhinos sometimes now used to be a little bit more openly towards freedom. But Pete Saint one great on his economics, and he's done a wonderful job on Twitter slash x expanding

his profile. Even has an advertiser. As he talks about where Canada is going, they're creeping. It's the Canadian creep towards CBDC and universal basic income. Let's see what he has to say. Universal basic income is coming to Canada. Will the US be next? I've been warning of a UBI universal basic income for a while now, since that is where we are in the Fall of Rome sequence. Recently, Canada's left wing liberals proposed just such a

scheme, dub THEE quote guarante key libable basic income. Lest one think it's just the liberals who've gone mad. Canada's Conservative Party deputy leader then spoke warmly of it, saying Conservatives should quote own it, so in all likelihood it's coming. First off, what is a UBI. The idea is to give everybody just enough to get by, whether or not they work. A typical number might be one thousand dollars per month. Supporters claim people will still work,

which is hilarious. More on that moment, and many Conservatives such as the Deputy Leader, have been suckered with promises that it will replace the existing welfare state, which of course is a lie. New welfare schemes are often sold that way, including the EITC here in the US, which was sold as a negative income tax that would replace welfare as we know it, but of course that never happened. The extra chillions just went on top. Because

it turns out that handing free money is like salting a soup. It's easy to add, it's very very hard to take away. Beyond the bait and switch. Why is a UBI soldad Probably because the cost is raid the treasury level, so perhaps three trillion dollars per year in the US, but mostly because it would radically expand our growing army of permanently unemployed count surfing parasites who do little work beyond voting for more welfare. To see why, I consider

two similar phenomena today, unemployment, benefits and pensions. Two years ago, the New York Times put out a major time use survey, finding that while full time workers spend five hours a day at work, unemployed people on benefits spend just thirty minutes a day looking for work. So how do they spend the other four and a half hours watching TV, napping, surfing the internet, playing games, and hanging out with their girlfriend. So that's a ninety

percent drop in work. We've got similar numbers from retirement. Once Americans hit that magic sixty five line, the Bureau of Labor Statistics tallied up the number of seniors working. That came out to eight percent working full time, seven percent working part time, which compares to sixty three percent of the general population.

So in that case, it's an eighty percent drop. Beyond the extortionate taxes on the few who still would work, the main victims would be the young will be bribed out of entry level jobs, ushered into a life of quasi poverty, doing nothing, having nothing, and complaining about it on TikTok.

So What's next? Brought to you by unchained vote buying has been popular since at least the Roman Empire, who put the bread in bread and circuses, and it's driven the country to ruin since at least the Roman Empire. But the political calculus is irresistible, all those millions of juicy votes. The COVID was at the test case in Canada and in many other countries and the next recession, you can be sure they will push it hard here in America.

As for long suffering Canadians, it looks like it will get worse before it gets better. Okay, we'll be watching, thank you, Pete Saint Are. And so the Twitter verse had some pretty good comments here. Just want to mention they do note that Canada is not implementing a universal basic income yet, and they just point this out. This isn't really contradictory to what Peter sat Hans just said. One senator and one MP have bills that instruct

the Finance Minister to develop a framework report on UBI. That is correct. Neither bill mentions a specific dollar amount nor directly implements UBI, but they are getting closer. And it's extremely important to keep it in mind, of course, because Canada is such a fantastic nation state. The government there is so awesome that. Let's not forget. They celebrated a Waffen SS trooper. All

right, that's great. That's just awesome stuff, isn't it. Oh and they did that while also, yeah, that's right in the house they had vlaut of the little mere Zelinski there is right there hanging out because you know, the Nazis of the Azov Battalion and the Slovada Party, like ole Tiani Bach, with whom John McCain and Lindsey Graham met. Joe Biden. There

were pictures of him shaking hands with Olechni Bac. He was mentioned in that conversation between Jeffrey piet and Victoria Neulan in that f the EU that infamous twenty fourteen f the EU recording that was gotten from their cell phones as they were putting together the government that the United States and NATO and the Atlantic Council wanted put in after the United States was involved with the overthrow of the Ukrainian government

in twenty thirteen in the Minon coup. Isn't that great? That's what a what a just cheery all away. You can't go wrong, boy, you want some fun, just go up to Canada. That will remind you of the good old days. And yes, a lot of people don't know that

Canada is still actually part of the British Empire. That's why in order to institute the emergency thing they have to go with I can't remember what it's called, something like the Royalty in Council or something like that, or the King or the Queen in Council and it's a representative from the British British government who is part of the Canadian government and they have to get final approval from this person. It's really weird. But even then, even if they get the

final approval to go with emergencies, which justin Trudeau didn't even wait. He just sent those horses out to trample people like you saw from Rebel News, you know, trampling a seventy six year old Native Native Indian Canadian woman. Yeah, that sort of thing, Trampa pummeling, hitting one of the Rebel News reporters and you can see the welt on her leg later. He just went and did it. He didn't even wait for for the Canadian Parliament to

approve it. Maybe that was because they were too busy, you know, thinking about making their plans to bring in Vladimir Zelenski and a Nazi. You know, that's nont know, you know, I'm just thinking about that. But hey, you know, we have to remember he was just following orders. Right. Well, let's keep that in mind as we turn right now to a follow up to something that we got to discuss yesterday with James Beauvard,

and I'll mention again just real quick if you get the opportunity. By the way, oh, thank you everyone for your really nice comments about the conversation with James Bouvard on yesterday's David Night Show. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David, and yesterday I had my friend, a man that used to be just one of my heroes. Now he's one of my friends. Over the past, you know, twenty years or so, I've got to know

James Bouvard, a great writer for freedom. His new book is Last Rights, sort of the follow up to Lost Rights that was published about ten years go. As you looked at the results of the Patriot Act, the growth of the FBI, things like so called civil asset forfeiture, the war on drugs, which is incredibly immoral and unconstitutional. I've got a lot of bookmarks in here. I got to ask them a lot of good questions, I

thought, hopefully, and thanks for your responses. You know. I wanted to try to pick sections that I thought people might say, oh wow, you know that's really and there's even more there, but you're limited for time. So I thought we did a pretty good job, and I hope you'll

get that. It's published by the Libertarian Institute, and they've also just published a new book by Tom Woods and it's called Diary of a Psychosis and it's of course about the lockdown mentality, the jab mentality and all that stuff. And so now I want to turn to our friend Glenn Jacobs, because James

and I both discussed what Glenn posted on Twitter slash x yesterday. Glenn, of course used to live up in New Hampshire, former pro wrestler as the character Kane, has been in this house numerous times and had to stoop through the doorway because he's so huge. And I remember one time we walked down to get pizza down at this little store down in our town and he just he's so huge. He can't escape his own physicality. It's not just that he's a celebrity, but it's that, you know, his body is so

big. Even if he tried to hide his identity, people would be looking at him. You know, it must be a weird existence. It's very strange. I guess. I guess you get used to it. You don't know anything different after a while, but very odd. It's different. But he posted this and I'll read it to you in case you're listening, he says Burks. Deborah Burks came to Knoxville in September of twenty twenty. In a private meeting, she told us that bars and restaurants should be closed.

She admitted the data didn't support it, but said it was necessary to send a message about the seriousness of the virus. That's marketing, not science. And of course, up in Canada the restricted travel between the provinces. But I did not discuss, and James and I did not discuss yesterday on the program. The post that inspired Glenn to post that information about that private meeting or closed door government official meeting, because Glenn is now the mayor of Knox

County in Tennessee. This came from Kevin Bass. Kevin Bass is an outspoken guy whose motto is lived not by lies, the sultsanitsan line. He's been on Tucker Carlson's show, He's been published in Newsweek, and he's been speaking up about Deborah Burks and what is in her book. Now, we've heard about these things before, so I just want to give you another little echo, little reminder to carry this information with us and hopefully people won't forget this

stuff. As Tom Woods publishes his book, time goes by, just like nine to eleven, things start to recede in the past. The wrongdoers. Should they get away with this sort of stuff? How do we call them to task? How do we keep the fire going? Well? At least we can talk about it right, At least we can keep telling the truth.

Do not live but live not by lies? Well, Kevin Bass, and hats off to Kevin, says Deborah Burks from her memoir, explaining how quote two weeks to Flatten the Curve was just marketing for harsh, months long lockdowns that she was already planning. Quote on Monday and Tuesday, March ninth and tenth, twenty twenty, we worked simultaneously to develop the Flatten the Curve

guidance I hoped to present to the Vice President at week's end. Let's just pause there and mention that that was the exact wrong thing to do, precisely wrong. And it runs even if it were, even if it had been right, it runs counter to freedom on two levels. First, the areas where you run into conflict, where people start to argue about what the health

policy policy should be are public tax funded areas. They combine everybody and it causes what's called the tragedy of the commons, where everyone has different or slightly different opinions. Maybe some people might agree, but most people will disagree about exactly how that government tax funded resource is going to be utilized or should be utilized. Right, you can't reveal your preferences through the market because you're forced

to pay for it, So everybody it causes dissension and argumentation. That to me is not unity. That's being forced together in a corral. That's like putting hungry rats together in a box and seeing what happens. That's the state. They put you in the box. They wanted to put everybody in their

homes. As Jay Batikaria, who wrote the introduction the forward to Tom Woods's new book, Diary of a Psychosis, also published by the Libertarian Institute, my friend Sheldon Richmond one of the people who started Scott Horton on the Board. He also helped start it. The idea of shutting things down and locking people down, putting them in their homes. The people like Jay Batikaria and the Great Barrington Signers Great Barrington Declaration Signers said no that's the wrong way to

do it. You don't rely on unreliable jabs to get endemic status some sort of what you think is heard immunity. You're not going to get heard immunity through so called vaccinations jabs because first, there's a time factor on First, there's a question on how effective they are, and then if you are giving peace people a false notion of security, they're now out there and could be contagious. What did we hear? We heard, Well, this is amazing.

For the first time, we're actually finding that in people's noses they have just as much of the viral material after they've been jabbed. Yeah, that's because they weren't working, and we're finding for the first time asymptomatic spread. Oh you mean maybe people are getting symptoms after they got jabbed because the jabs aren't working, so they're getting sick. Maybe there's also a problem with the

jabs themselves. Maybe that's actually the bigger problem long term, and if you actually just allowed people to deal with what you say is this incredibly deadly virus which had a ninety four point six percent survival rate across all age quintiles combined and a near zero rate for people under eighteen. Maybe if you had just allowed, as the people at the Great Barrington Declaration had signed, and the healthy people. Maybe if you had just just said I'm not going to mess

with people not even allowed. Maybe if you had just gotten out of it and let people decide for themselves, suggested that healthy people go out get their natural immunity by acquiring the virus and building up their long term cells for viral intervention, their T cells, then maybe you could then see the elderly and more frail people who were at home come out, and you would have heard immunity and a lower chance of those frail people contracting the virus. Maybe that

would be it. But you didn't do it that way. You said we've got to flatten the curve. Beforehand, you said the hospitals were going to be overrun. You lied and told people the hospitals were overrun when people were

going out with cameras and finding no, they weren't. When hospital orderlies, nurses, and doctors were doing flash dances and line dances, flashbob routines that clearly had to have been choreographed, where they get the time I thought they were dealing with all these dying patients, when in fact, if you look at and compare the flu deaths to the so called COVID deaths, it's almost

as if COVID was a label that they put on the seasonal flu. The other problem with the vaccines is not just whether or not they're reliable, but it's the timeframe in which people get the vaccines and how long the vaccines work. You have two temporal factors there. One is how long will they work

to go backwards? We don't know. And of course with these we saw week after week they kept saying, well, you know, it turns out, as the former head of the CDC Wolenski, told us, well yeah, now we can't really say that they're reliable in any way that they fight anything. Of course not. And then there's the time factor of when are people getting these shots? Right, So some people might get the shots and then later are they now still immune? How about people who got it six

months later? Should they be the only ones allowed out in the future once their immunity wears off? And even now the federal government, as Russell brand Is mentioned on his show and I mentioned it on my show in Liberty Conspiracy, they're putting out PSAs telling people that natural immunity doesn't last. That is

the thing that lasts. That's the point. So we'll go back to Deborah Burks and her lies, literally admitting in her memoir on Monday and Tuesday, March ninth and tenth of twenty twenty, we worked simultaneously to develop the Flatten the curve guidance I hope to present to the Vice President at week's end, which was the exact wrong thing to do. Getting buy in on the simple mitigation measures every American could take was just the first step leading to longer and

more aggressive interventions. We had to make these palatable to the administration by avoiding the obvious appearance of a full Italian lockdown. No sooner had we convinced the Trump administration to implement our version of a two week shutdown than I was trying to figure out how to extend it. Yes, were you telling people about that, Debra. Fifteen days to slow the spread was a start, but I knew it would be just that I didn't have the numbers in front of

me yet to make the case for extending it longer. But I had two weeks to get them. Well, you weren't going to get those numbers because they weren't real. And Glenn Jacobs pointed out in the meeting that they weren't real, and you said, well, yeah, we know that. It's marketing, as Glenn said, not science. It's fear mongering might be a better word. And of course the final point is if one wants to look at the nexus between freedom, health, so called public health, and the

government. As David has said and as I have said, there is no such thing as public health. There's no such thing as public safety or public security. That's the state telling you that your security can be sacrificed for what they say is the good of all. That's the state telling every individual.

You are always an individual. You don't blend into some gelatinous mass when you're out amongst people in this area or that area, or you're part of this demographic group or that demographic group, or whatever the politicians want to fascistly and facetiously tell you you are part of. You are an individual. There is only individual health and the idea that the government can then impose its will on you, whether it's by taking your money, or taking your opportunities, or

forcing un to stay inside, taking your other liberties. So called for the protection of the public health means that every individual who remains an individual is always a target for the government, which then undercuts the very logic of the government saying that they're working for so called public health, because if everyone can be a potential victim, that means that the agent of threat is actually the state, the government that claims that for everyone, everyone can be a potential victim.

That's a qed. It's a non starter. Logically, Aristotle could have talked about that. You could get this in a sixth grade logic class, but politicians don't seem to get it. They love to put that rhetoric out there. They love to promote well, it's for the public. It's just like the Marxist neo Marxist cultural Marxist idea of always finding the little guy, because hidden behind their mess is well, if you don't agree with this,

you are oppositional, you are a danger. The Karens out there in politics are going to call the cops if you walk in your dog without a mask. The little guy has to be protected, that person who's frail and invalid. They've got to be protected by force, not choice. And this is the final point that I'll make as a free market proponent, I try to

stress the importance of private property and individual choice revealing preferences. We don't know how much security people want when it comes to viruses unless we let them choose. And the only way that we can let them choose is to let them control their property and their interactions. So the less often you have these public places where everybody's opinions are thrown together into the tragedy of the commons, the smaller these areas of political control, the better it is. And if you

can pay or away even those small areas of political control. If you go to private property, then you get real individuals choosing. Do I want to go into that shop? I wonder what they're like, what's their security protocol? How much information do I have on the threat? As people see other people interacting and what happens to them, they start to say, well, do I want to go into that home? What's it like? Do I want to stay in that hotel? What are the locks on the doors like?

What's their cleanliness like? Do I want to eat at that restaurant? What's their reputation? Like? Have I been invited to a party, what's that person like, do I go to this private school, what's their policy like? Do they protect kids? Do they have gender neutral bathrooms? Right, not imposed on everybody, but choices, toy stores, what's in the

toy store, revealing preferences rising and falling based on what you're offering. If you had private property rather than government run areas, then people could say, this is my viral security protocol. This is what it's like. Do you want to commemen? Do you not want to comme in? You can actually ask, And if you're not asking, you're not that interested. That's not my fault. I shouldn't be charged with that. That's up to you.

The more often you have these voluntary areas of interaction, the more often you can see the results of people's own choices. And every time someone leaves one of those private arrangements, those private situations, they can then enter into a new one. And every time that happens, you see the manifestation of everyone's interests. Those security protocols are brought up. But with government as one size fits all, you can't have variation, you can't have experimentation. That's exactly

what Deborah Birks was pushing. And now let's hear from Naomi Wolf. Good job Glenn Jacobs getting that information out. Here's Naomi Wolf, who's grown tremendously. As I mentioned when we were talking with James Boulevard yesterday, James and I were both at a Free State Project conference here in New Hampshire. I

think it was a year. After I was speaking, Glenn was speaking, Naomi Wolf and James Bovard came up, they were guests, and had a great conversation with both of them, and Naomi was, you know, she was very very much on the feminist issues, that sort of thing that were maybe typical sort of feminist things, very much in favor of free speech and that sort of stuff, but she had not really dug down into some of

the agendas of the leftists and the cloaks that they wore supposedly supporting freedom when they were actually for statism, in trying to portray people in a gaslight way who might oppose the growth of the state, trying to portray them as against the little guy, when actually they were not in favor of the little guy, those people who promoted the state. Well, Naomi Wolf posts this,

She says stunning admission repost from Eric Hartman. She says, yeah, okay, we really weren't thinking about what would happen after we helped to load those people into those box cars. Of course she's reminiscing bringing back thoughts about criticism of Nazi Germany. Of course, very appropriate here. The public health mindset is very narrow. She said, that's because public health doesn't care about the

individual and only cares about the state. I want to go to this original post as we see Francis Collins, who was caught secretly communicating with Anthony Fauci on how they would counter Jay Batikaria and the others from the Great Barrington Declaration who were giving what was solid traditional medical advice and proved to have been correct.

Do the regular idea of leaving people free to associate with each other, let the healthy people do what they want, suggests that the more frail stay inside until you get to a number of people who've contracted the virus, have been healthy and now have natural immunity. Let's see what Francis Collins. This is, of course years now after he wrote secret messages to Anthony Fauci,

but we discovered them, thank you. Let's see what Eric Hartman has to say, And here is Francis Collins, what a guy, as a guy living inside the Beltway, feeling the sense of crisis, trying to decide what to do in some situation room in the White House with people who had data that was incomplete. We weren't really thinking about what that would mean to wilk and his family in Minnesota, a thousand miles away from where the virus was

hitting so hard. We weren't really considering the consequences in communities that were not New York City or some other big city. The public health people we talked about this early, and this really important point. If you're a public health person and you're trying to make a decision, you have this very narrow view of what the right decision is, and that is something that will save a life, doesn't matter what else happened. So you attach infinite value to stopping

the disease and saving a life. You attach a zero value to whether this actually totally disrupts people's lives, ruins the economy, and has many kids kept out of school in a way that they never quite require collateral damage. So there, yeah, collateral damage. This is a public health mindset, and I think a lot of us involved in trying to make those recommendations had that mindset and that was really unfortunate. It's another mistake. Okay, all right,

as a guy that collateral damage attitude. That's going to feed into our topic for the last hour, and that is going to be Douglas Murray and the callous attitude. The term, well, it's war. I don't think you understand innocent people get killed in war. No. Actually, the traditional rules of war with the Capitol w as it is written in the US Constitution, are that you don't kill civilians. There isn't a term collateral damage in

the traditional view of war. And yes there were exceptions that cropped up, but that was supposedly the deal in war. The people who signed on the fight for the monarchs people got hired, the knights, the soldiers, They were the ones who put themselves at risk, and innocent people were supposed to be left out of it because it was state on state. People like Francis Collins represent a new kind of war criminal, liars, cheaters after the facts

excusing it, well, it's public health. Just like I said, you can be sacrificed, and they reverse it, they flip it to say, well, if we can just save one life, Well, what you're doing is you are creating a situation where people who might want to handle their own lives can't be allowed to do so you're destroying lives. That's what you're doing. And moreover, even if his decisions were right, even if all these decisions might have actually been the right way to go, which we knew right

at the start, they weren't. That's one of the reasons why why NewsGuard was going after us at MRCTV, because I was publishing stuff at the start of the pandemic so called that ran counter so they were trying to silence us. MRCTV got shut off of YouTube often had to come back. Luckily they have teams of lawyers working for them, and you know, we weren't going

to change our perspective on these things. So Francis Collins represent sense, not just bad decision making, but the immoral idea that there can be a government decision maker because the only way that government decision makers get their money is by forcing people to pay for it. So all of it, all of it stems from immorality. So when we talk about Francis Collins, I'm reminded of

something. I'd like to give this to you. Some folks asked me a little while ago, and this might seem a little tangential, but some folks asked me a little while ago, Hey, Guard, why don't you talk about your fiction stuff? And so, oh, yeah, you know, I don't do that. So there's some fiction over at Amazon. And the first novella that I got published is called Byte, and in it, at the back of it there's a short story and it's called Sigil. I'd like

to read this to you. Let me know what you think. What can I express about this strange phenomenon that will not inspire within you merely a subtle sense of disquiet, rather than utter, uncontrollable dread. To you, the tale I intend to recount will seem a trifle, the most ordinary of occurrences, dismissable as a simple twist of fate, or the combination of average circumstances,

as seen through an old man's paranoid dementia. But to me, the witness of these preternatural events, it is a story so horrific as to implicate the devil himself in my lonely and solitary existence here in New England. I have endeavored to trouble no one. The pale and silent snows of winter blanket my surroundings, delivering peace and tranquility to my once tormented soul. They bring to mind the deep, arboreal stillness of my homeland, where a man might

walk for miles and encounter no one. His companions, mute and unmoving, would consist of the majestic furs and brooding oaks, and the crisp air would fill his lungs and caress his skin. Invigorated and enlivened, he would march with a bounce to his step, planting his boots in the snow, and

delighting in the crunch of one against the other. I can recall with vivid clarity the varied colors of the wood, the deep green of the pines and the pearly white of the snow, the somber browns of the shadow filled valleys, and the ghostly gray of my own breath billowing into the air. The frosted canopy had its own wonderful presence, and I encountered it like a subject

does his king, with heartfelt and profound reverence. Many years have passed since then, the days and trying times, accruing like layers of tarnish on silver. But the brilliance of those memories remains of a time when I was young and vital, standing alongside my friends in a great and noble struggle. Tragically, almost all of them are gone, now buried beneath those knee deep snows, their pale bones turning to dust in unremarkable graves. It is all too

clear that I cannot return to see them. But I do have my memories. Although my loneliness is sometimes profound, I can relive those halcyon days by exercising my mind and thumbing through my careworn diary. My recollections from that time are set down in some one hundred and eighty pages in an almost unintelligible script, written with an uncooperative fountain pen over the course of three years. The sheets themselves are yellowing and delicate, like centuries old vellum, and bound in

a brown leather cover embossed with the glorious seal of my people. It may seem to you that all these images are rather sedate and bucolic. A cottage in the woods, the drifting snow, a cherished diary. Had I not experienced what I have, I might be inclined to agree, But such a judgment could not be further from the truth. Think me mad if you must.

But it is these very underpinnings of my ordinary world that have conspired to drive me to paroxysms of fear, the sort of chilled terror that is unvanquishable and unrelenting. Winter evenings here can be very cold, the air can numb one's skin, and great harm can be dult the delicate constitution of an old

man. I therefore wisely retire early, retreating to my familiar rocker by the fire, where I wrap myself in homespun Yankee blankets and contemplate the leaping flames, how lively they are, at times, rising up as if to engulf my entire world. Their lambent orange glow is more than sufficient to illuminate the cottage. The pop and crackle the only sounds in the haunting night. On my lap rests my diary, a tiny looking glass to days gone by.

As I scan the pages and remember, a curious sensation of warmth or spreads my aged form, bringing with it contentedness and lethargy. The scribbled words speak clearly to me from long ago, telling those familiar stories I hold so dear, and I cannot help but feel a pang of emotion upon reading them. Occasionally I am even driven to weep. Perhaps it was the salt water coalescing in my eyes, or a manifestation of my failing sight. But three nights

ago, as I felt slumber coming on, something most peculiar occurred. The fire was slowly dying, its light retreating to the interior of the wood, and I sat content in my warm and comfortable chair. I had been fighting off drowsiness with an ever weakening resolve, hoping to finish a particular chapter written in nineteen forty two. Had I been a younger man, perhaps I would have stayed awake, listening to the howl of the frigid wind. But as it happened, my head began to nod, my chin to rest on my

shrunken chest, and my eyes to close. It was then, when I was most susceptible, that it happened. As I tried to remain awake a moment longer, the letters on the page I mean to move, shifting ever so slightly. I dazedly blinked and came back to myself. But the odd moment had passed, and there being nothing remarkable to see, my eyes quickly lost their focus. I proceeded to fall into a deep, uninterrupted sleep. This sequence of events occurred on the night following as well, in precisely the

same manner, under entirely similar circumstances. The fire had expired, the room had grown dim, and the grieving furies wailed like tormented souls outside my little cabin. But what my eyes beheld this time, as I retained that final bit of self awareness, made me jerk awkwardly to life. The ink had blurred and moved as surely as I breathed, and most unholy of all, a word had appeared, dared at the faded script on the page. But

like quicksilver, the message was gone. I was left with only an impression of what had been a fleeting impartation of something horrid and unspeakable. The diary invited further investigation, but I could not bring myself to read it. To read what I knew to be the simple recollections of a young man, I shivered convulsively, and suddenly aware of my age and solitude, I sought the refuge of my bed. When I awoke this morning, all memory of that

uncanny experience had vanished from my mind. The day was bright and sparkling with possibilities, and although I first drifted about absent mindedly, as if there were something important that required my attention, I quickly shed my listlessness in favor of a stroll through the woods, and some late afternoon hours spent collecting fuel for the fire. I returned to the cottage tired but contented, and recalled with

a smile. Those days I had exhausted myself in the service of my country, marching back and forth along the stark, frozen perimeter of our camp. A hot meal of beef stew and a touch of sherry to rekindle my heart, and I was ready to recline by the hearth. My belly was full and my spirits were high. But as I settled into the old rocker with my diary in hand, a strange sense of unease seized upon me. It was slow to comprehend, building ever so gradually, but it probably existed.

Nonetheless, the twilight and the glow of the fire reminded me of something, something from the previous night that I should have recalled, but could not like a half forgotten dream. It was a word, a word. I must have slipped into an uneasy sleep, then, for when I opened my eyes some time later, the fire had died outside. The pale face of the moon shone just over the blackened tips of the trees, and it cast strange

shadows on the floor. Perhaps I was still in a dream like days, But looking at those other worldly designs, I felt a peculiar chill grip me, as if something most foul had found deliverance from the grave and touched me with its cold and lifeless hand. I rose, gripping my diary to my chest, and hastened toward my bed, where I thought I might find peace. I moved stiffly, without much grace, my thin legs weak and unsteady, Coming to rest upon the mattress, I laid my diary down on the

night table and slipped beneath the covers. I shut my eyes and for some time sought the intoxicating neck of sleep. It remained elusive. The moon rose higher, and my unease grew. I felt that the letters in my diary had tried to tell me something I knew. It was a warning, a premonition, of the future. Of that, I was certain, but the meaning remained unclear. I sat up, propped against the pillows, a weak,

frightened old man, staring into the gloom. My body lay before me, spent and emaciated, covered by blankets, as if by a death shroud, repulsing me, reminding me of them. Confused, I turned away. I tried to avert my gaze, but my eyes fixed on the blanched flooring of the room as I listened more closely to the howls beyond the walls.

The howls tormented souls, and I understood the moonlight shining garishly through the twisted limbs of the denuded forest, slid slowly across the old planking of the floor, and in the swirling grain of the faded pine. I saw their faces, twisted and tortured, screaming at me like inhuman beasts, their mouths tearing apart, eyes bursting with fear. They were the faces of the past, the faces of the camp, and I had seen them all before I fell

asleep. I ventured one last look at my diary, at the cursed black insignia emblazoned on its cover, and I knew the word I had read. I closed my eyes. The word was hell. So that's for you. Francis Collins, hope you enjoyed it. That's for you. Soldiers who go out and commit war crimes. That's for you. Former Waffen SS trooper. May you ask for forgiveness for your soul. That's for you. Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump, Eco Health Alliance, Paul Zazak, that's for you.

Even US soldiers to be reminded and perhaps a less forceful tone. Please remember when you're sent to Afghanistan, and GERALDO. Rivera interviews you, like Lieutenant Christian or Christmas Brian Christmas twenty years ago in the poppy fields of Afghanistan, you took an oath. You took an oath to the US Constitution, and it doesn't allow that. It doesn't allow any soldiers to be stationed outside the United States unless there's a declaration of war with a capital W, war with

a capital W. It has rules. The Constitution has rules. I'm an anarchist. I never signed the Constitution. But you who enter the government offices, you swear oaths, and you flout those o's all the time. You use them like toilet paper. You coerce. You push people around, you become fascists. Someday you must answer for this, save yourself. Let's hop into rockfinchat thank you for being there, one and all. I'm Gardner Golsmith filling in for David Knight and I want to thank uh. Let's see oh

over Greg Talent gave a tip over at Rock Finn. Thank you, Greg. Appreciate it, really really appreciate it, especially because I'm filling in for David. But in a way I'm also filling in for Tony because Tony's ill today. So Tony Ardeburn of Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange was going to be here, but you just can't do it. So I said, you know what, we were texting this morning. I said, yeah, I'll love to be there with the audience. It be terrific. It's a great

opportunity for me and hopefully we get to share some good info. So feel free to offer your comments in rock Fin and rumble Chat, and of course share hit the thumbs up, share this with as many people as you can. And Harps from Australia, Hello, Harps, you know what I'm talking about, big time Harps. Harps knows more about the United States Constitution as a guy coming from Australia than most American politicians, I'd say ninety nine percent

of them. It's amazing. Harps, thank you very much, he said. Guard means business over at Rockvin so right, and Brian dev McCartney to two viewers in one says, oh, wondering where Tony was. Yeah, Tony texted this morning, says he just he's too sick, can't do it. So and Tony is such a good guy. And Stephen Caspar thank you, Steven, appreciate it. Michael Palmroy prayer signs for Tony. Absolutely, everybody. Let's pray for good things to happen to Tony getting better and and

thanks again for being so welcoming to me. I really really appreciate it. Uh, I'm looking at rumble chat now. Stelts Patriot says, Guard, you better watch how much you read. Joe Biden might plagiarize you or maybe be the head of Harvard is gay now that she has not come out strong enough in favor of the Zionist state of Israel. Now they can knock her out of that position for plagiarism and paraphrasing. So many people right, so so true. Doug log over at Rumble, thank you so much, go

Guard, go give him hell, thank you so much. And Grammy for God says feel better, Tony and uh and Owen sixty one says Guard makes a killer smash burger. Thanks me, I appreciate it. Thank you all for being so much. Fun boy, It's great. I remember, you know, while I'm filling in for David, I do I do want to mention again, not too much. You try to find like the right number of times to mention it. But go to the David Knight Davidnightshow dot Com.

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Yes, indeed he did plagiarize Neil Kinnick. He also got caught for plagiarism in law school. And yeah, now he's president of the United States, so I think we can see that being President of the United States is in no way a reflection of someone's character being good. That's for darn sure. So here's what's going on in the EU, everybody, and I'll take my lovely mug off the screen a little, make it a little smaller and show

you this. This comes from article nineteen Digital Services Act Infringement in the EU. Now, this story came out over a week ago, but I missed it, so I apologize I didn't see it. I better allow all those cookies. Good. Yeah, so Elon Musk is coming up to it right

now, folks. On December eighteenth, or on eighteen December, as they'd say in Europe, the European Union formally opened infringement proceedings into social media platform X formerly known as Twitter, over potential breaches of a number of provisions of the Digital Services Act. Now remember they've got a bit of a variation of this now that they've opened up the Online Online Security Act or Online Safety Act,

which is an expansion of OFFCOM in the UK. Even though Britain has supposedly disconnected from the EU and it's taking forever and it's not really disconnected through defense arrangements and things like that, the British government has this thing called OFFCOM, and OFFCOM is basically a panel of bureaucrats that supposedly come from the telecommunications over the air industry for news and broadcasting, and they can just arbitrarily decide

that some broadcaster has breached their standards of conduct, whatever that might be, for so called malinformation or misinformation. And so rather than going through it surretitiously through things like the Portmand Murphy Act and back doors to Facebook and the FBI paying Twitter three million dollars to suppress our statements about elections or the Cowabunga virus or the jabs, rather than doing it that way, they just overtly at

offcom say well you broadcasters. You're gonna be fined now, sort of like the FCC essentially, you know, incredibly fascist, incredibly immoral and telling people this is how you're going to run your business. Right, Yeah, I think we've seen it. It's manifested everything from toy stores to broadcasters. Okay, they claim, well it's the public airwaves. No they're not the public

airwaves. Of course, then you're causing the tragedy of the commons. Maybe some people want swearing on online, how much swaring, how many per hours? We don't know. We have to let the market decide that. It's sort of like when they want to put labels on records. You wouldn't see Stephen King and I mentioned him before, claiming that the government should run books because there's a limited amount of paper products that you can put out at any

given time without cutting down all the trees. And yet they claim that because the broadcast spectrum is limited, somehow the government's got to control that. You could apply the same logic to books and papers right when you didn't have the electronic medium of publishing. But they try to do this now with electronics electronic publishing, and they're doing this in England now with this online safety thing, which is now taking the offcon principle and applying it to any platform that is

online and Internet service providers. Liz Warren wants to do the same thing in the United States and she's teaming up with none other wank wank. Yes, very exciting then with Lindsey Graham, and they literally want to force people who are going to be opening up websites that have larger numbers of people visiting them. How that's going to happen, I don't know. They're going to have to get licensed by the government, just like the FCC will dole allow or

not doll out licenses to people because they've got the power. So over in the EU, they've got their equivalent to this, which is their Digital Services Act. Because the EU originally was started as a supposed free market, free exchange pulling down the tariffs between the nation state's idea and what happened it became a bureaucracy, a mechanism of government control. So they say they're going to be opening their proceedings over potential breaches of a number of provisions of the Digital

Services Act. Article nineteen of the Act supports robust enforcement of the DSA and the Commission's efforts to so called ensure that X fully complies with its obligations because they just call them obligations now, they make that up. They say, well, you've got obligations now, No, they're impositions. An obligation is something I take on myself and I recognize morally, and imposition is a threat. Ah, regulations, back to the mafia. Well, let's go to

the Expose and see what else they have to say about this. Patricia Harridy wrote on December twentieth. Right here, Ah, there's that woman Vanderland who was in secret communications with the head of Pfizer as they were getting ready to buy all their EU jabs. You know, afterwards they found out thanks to that Dutch EU parliament member mister Russ, that miss Small or was it Jennine Smalls or Burtree Smalls and said that they we didn't know what was going to

work or not because we had to move by the speed of science. The speed of science. Oh, that's a nice, nice euphemism for fascist purchase of our drug and make billions of dollars. I get it here. It is from the Expose. It's Expose hyphen News if you're looking for it. The European Union has vowed to permanently shut down X if Elon Musk doesn't immediately and alternative media from the platform. What does that mean, Well, perhaps

info Wars and others. They mentioned aj Alex here Alex Jones is calling for US to defend Musk and seems to think that the unelected body has launched this plan to silence Americans ahead of the twenty twenty four election. Well, perhaps he's right and says this amounts to a foreign coup. Well, you know, okay, maybe maybe not. They have him quoted there. On Monday, the EU announced it was launching the formal infringement proceedings against X over a

recently implemented law intended to crack down on independent media. The announcement of the probe comes weeks after X formerly Twitter, was asked to provide assurances that it was complying with the terms of the European Bloc's Digital Services Act. Under the law, the threat, which came into effect in August, a company can be fined up to six percent of its annual global income for or or being banned or be banned from operating in the EU. If it is found to

have breached the sweeping legislation. And they have copies of the legislation right there if you want to see it, and here it is there. Quote today we open farm all infringement proceedings against X X X X Terry Breton, the EU commissioner. It's amazing. You know X can only survive by voluntary payments now that the FBI is not giving them millions of dollars. Right, how is Terry Breton paid this EU commissioner? He's responsible for this. Oh,

that's right off the backs of other people. Breton added that the move had been taken in response to a suspective breach of obligations to counter and ego content and disinformation, suspected breach of transparency obligations. You think they're going to invade Elon Musk's house, you know, come in like Brazil, drilled down through the through the ceiling, burst through the door and take him away. Or maybe that'll be someone whose letter is just a couple letters away from Musk.

They'll invade somebody's house. His last name will be Tusk, because that's the way it started in Brazil. A fly landing on the typewriter for the for the warrant and not even warrant the order to go after people go after this guy named Tuttle, and they went after a guy named Buttle instead. Whoops, oh Man, Terry Gilliam showing the evil and the unworkable craziness at the

same time, the absurdity of evil amazing. You know, thinking about the EU, I'm wondering, do you think they'll suppress independent voices like David Knight like this? You think they'll stop Rockvin and Rumble the way Rumble is being stopped in Brazil? And why we know that people who are real big at Rumble are people like Glenn Greenwald, Russell Brand redacted, Kim Iverson, Jimmy Dore. Strangely, curiously, they're all people who have exposed the jabs.

They're all people who have opposed the who. They're all people who have called for decentralization or returned to smaller governments and more freedom, privacy and free speech. Isn't that curious? Even left wingers like Glenn Greenwald and form left wingers, and still in many cases left wingers like Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore, left wing stand up comedian he wants universal healthcare, perhaps will learn even on

that part that you don't want that. We've seen what the trappings of universal healthcare do when they're calling for controlling your healthcare through jazz and lockdowns and things. And I don't see how you're gonna be able to separate those. But they have been very outspoken about war. You think this website will be shut down from tweeting if the EU has its way, The website called antiwar dot

com. How about the Libertarian Institute where Scott Horton was very, very involved, and he's been very involved in antiwar just you know, people like us

pushing for peace. Right. Well, here is a little bit of what I mentioned earlier about Douglas Murray's attitude and the attitude of the very people who helped promote Hamas to run the Palestinian State, so called the Palestinian Corral in Gaza, where they have had an ever decreasing size for the people to live as Israel has moved further and further north, bulldozed homes, brought in their new developments, and corralled people. As Norman Finkelstein has said, there are

some people under eighteen who have never even left Gaza. They've never left. Benjamin net Nyahu, who openly on more than one occasion has supported Hamas to lead Gaza because he knew and has said that they would be oppositional and not open to negotiation, which would then give the leadership of Israel a so called justification for engaging in more military conflict with Hamas. Net Nyahu says he's looking for countries to absorb Palestinians from Gaza. They treat them like products, like

things just to be moved around. You just move them anywhere you want. This is from the two twenty sixth I think it's worth reiteration. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a meeting of his Likud party on Monday that he's working to bring about the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and looking for countries willing to quote absorb them. Quote. Our problem is countries that are ready to absorb them. Well, who are you to say to tell other nation states

and the people within them that they should absorb anybody? How about leaving people alone? All that's right. You can't distinguish between the hostage takers and the hostages you killed three hostages, and there were Israelis who were being returned and trying to escape, I should say, and you also shot on October seventh, shot people you thought were Hamas fighters and they turned out to be some of your own soldiers and civilians, Israeli civilians. You told civilians within Gaza

to go south and then started bombing that area. Many of the things that you're claiming about targeting people are undercut by the fact that you're not using so called smart bombs, and even with the smart bombs, you're killing civilians. What is this idea of collateral damage that Francis Collins fatuously mentions as if, well, it's just part of the thing. It's for the public, public

health, public defense. Maybe there's a different way theodoric of York. How about this net Yahoo vows to expand operations in Gaza, says war isn't close to finished. Want to take a moment to give you the opportunity to hear something that I did last night, and you'll find it on Rockfinn. I'd love to get your opinions about it, because now I want to turn to Douglas Murray and his appearance on this show called uncensored as I flick a couple

buttons here. We'll get to that in just a moment. The first thing I want to do is I want to play for you, perhaps a little something that you might enjoy from the David Knight Show. And it is, yes, still a holiday theme. It's a holiday promotion of his fantastic record. Here it is. I'm delighted to present something born from my love for music in the Christmas season. Christmas Night is a perfect companiment for anything from

family gatherings, but ament is a peaceful reflection. I hope us to provide a fresh take for the soundtrack of Christmas. This collection of twenty instrumental songs brings new life to timeless Christmas classics with original orchestrations alongside lesser known, yet equally enchanting carols. For the listeners of The David Knight Show, this is more than music as part of our shared journey, Christmas Night is available at The David Night Show. May it bring a little extra joy and peace to

your Christmas season. Thank you for your unwavering support and for joining me in this new musical adventure. Very Christmas to all and all, A good Christmas Night. Wonderful stuff. And you know, I love listening to it because the music in it shows such dexterity and such a facility with musicianship. It just is absolutely remarkable. And I have to say it's nice because now that I've gotten older, I think the same thing about writing. I think the

same thing about watching films and so on. It allows me to think about and remember the people behind the music. I really find it just wonderful. So I think about David, his his musicianship, his ability to be able to use the programs and uh, you know, play play instruments himself. It's just it's amazing, just amazing stuff. I absolutely love it, So check it out. I wanted to make sure that I talked about that as I fill in. I'm Gardner Goldsmith by the way. Uh, you know,

you talk about the issues. You forget to mention yourself sometimes Gardener goals. But nice to have you here. Everyone. Some of you might know my work for MRC TV. That's probably where I get. You know, most of the people who might you know, recognize some of my pieces or videos or something like that. Occasionally you bump into somebody at the town dump. There's a guy who was like, hey, I watch a video like god, dude, good to see him. Man, So we talk.

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done. What a voice? Huh boy, that guy's got some voice. Yeah. Well, they tried to fight. Many of those people who were opposed to the Vietnam so called war later never declared war. They tried, they worked hard. Now I'd like to show you something that I got to do last night on my program on Liberty Conspiracy, and it has to do with this guy, Douglas Murray. I promised the audience that I would discuss

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between Western powers, putting the state of Israel. There the difference between being anti state and anti Semitic. Palestinians are Semitic peoples, Hasidic Jews in New York. As I mentioned, Jerry Nadler, of all people is mentioning, Uh, maybe in the United States, you don't want to put forward a resolution that says being anti Zionist, opposed to state policies is being anti Semitic.

And if one is going to do that, then of course one is going to tie all these civilians who might not even agree with Israeli policies in the same way that many of the people who like the Times Square Bomber associate US policies with the civilians, because so many Americans buy into the same canard

that the government is US. No, it's not especially right now. It's a bunch of military industrial complex interests involved with making tons and tons of money as the United States tries to continue expanding it's bankrupt influence around the world in places like Ukraine in the Middle East. So I got to discuss this with regard to one aspect of this, one facet of it, and I tried

to be as fair as possible. Douglas Murray appearing against of all people, Sank Younger, and I come in on that story that I just mentioned about net Yahoo absorbing the Palestinians. This is from last night's Liberty Conspiracy show. Side of those people there, the partial genocide of those people there and moving the rest of them out, or the genocide of them and the subjugation of

all the rest as Israel moves in and takes over. Net Yahoo said the world is quote already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration, and pointed to comments from former US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley, who is currently running for the twenty twenty four Republican presidential nomination. I think she's running on. Isn't

her platform give Lockheed more money? I think that was her platform. Netanyahu said that a team must be set up to quote ensure that those who want to leave Gaza to a third country, because who wouldn't want to leave Gaza? Now that, of course Israel is making a death zone that they'd be allowed to do. So it needs to be settled. Oh, I see, So everybody else has a responsibility to settle the problem you're freaking creating.

I get it, I get it. Benjamin that's classic. As you say, of course right here from December twenty sixth, expanding operations in Gaza, there will not be a square edge of that place that is not under Israeli control when this is done, and Joe Biden is supporting it, Well, you know, we've got rules, Jack Kirby, We've got rules in the way things are supposed to operate. Yeah, they've broken the rules over and over again. They're not abiding by your rules, and you keep giving them

weapons. Are you going to stop? Well, you know, we've got some rules, so they should abide by those things as we keep giving them all the weapons. That's kind of not an answer there, John, Oh gee, you're right, I get it. Now let's turn to this Piers Morgan, Douglas Murray and Piers Morgan and Sink younger sink Ouger. Now I have been critical of Sink. I don't agree with most every position of this

man. However, his points are valid, his points are well stated, and for a long time he holds his temper as he is assailed personally. His character is assailed over and over and over again. Now I've questioned his character by going by the name the Young Turks and the Armenian genocide and things like that, right, and I don't like his collectivist philosophy. I believe that sometimes he is a show. I don't know whether he's got CIA money whatever, I don't know. I do believe he got a lot of money

from Soros. I think that was the case, and I think they blew through a lot of that money. I'll tell you who I do admire. Who's no longer with Young Turks. That's Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dor I think still talks with Sank, but he doesn't doesn't. I don't think he got

along with them for numerous reasons. So he left, started his own thing, stand up comic, and has been remarkable on the peace front, talking about the Jabs, got damaged by one of the Jabs, talking about Ukraine, talking about Israel, Hamas getting some of the best people on you could ever imagine, just outstanding. I mean we're talking Glenn Greenwald level analysis of the news resources, calling in good people to report, just excellent. That's

where I discovered Max Blumenthal. So many great people, right, Russell Brand doing the same thing right. So I do want to hand it to Sank young younger Ouger for holding it together here, for and providing information as he was assailed by Douglas Murray and Douglas Murray's wonderful flourishes of the English language and his his spiteful approach here and also early on as he got interrupted while Douglas Murray was not interrupted in the beginning of this What is it an uncensored show?

The Uncensored Show with Piers Morgan. Okay, so this is a British show. Pierce has a sketchy background himself. We know that, and you know he loves to get his attention. He's been through good, he's been through bad. He has positives, he has negatives. So he mismanaged a few things at the start. Did a little better. Let's check this out, everybody. We're gonna pause this. I want to go through some of

these points here and again. Let's check this out. Watch this. Here we go Douglas Murray and Jenkie Hugar on bitly opposing sides of a debate on Israel's Warren Gaza. Millions have watched them passionately articulate their cases on this show, but never together. So tonight, on our final show of the year, we've provided these two big brains to debate the big outstanding questions on this conflict, and as the war end, will Israel faced with percussions for scale

of its response to October the seventh, as it committed war crimes. What is the future if any, for Hamas, for Gaza, and for the prospects of a true Palestinian state? Most importantly, how do we get to peace? Well, I'm now joined by the author of the War on the West, done this Murray, and by Young Turns founder and Democratic presidential challenger Jenk. You go, welcome to both of these. So I've interviewed you

both a lot in this war, but not together. And Jenk, I know you felt the other night when you were debating other people didn't really get into a debate. And I think that's fair enough. And what I'd like today really is to be almost a referee, if you're right between you two, to articulate your views and to see if we can reach any points of consensus. So in that spirit, let me start with you, Douglas. And I think you're back in Israel, Is that right? Yes? I

mean Israel tonight? Yeah, today it was a sea of other stories have come out of the last few days which have been concerning I think for anyone who like me believes that Israel has not just a moral duty to defend itself, but has a fundamental right to do so, after what has over the seventh and I said that clearly from the start, It's always been for me

the issue of proportionality. All right, I want to pause it there, everybody, and just mention once more, there is no Israel in an anthropomorphic sense. Israel, the state the police has no rights. The individuals have rights to defend themselves and voluntarily come up with their own arrangements for protection. This is just basic, axiomatic, fundamental philosophy. You can't get around this.

A state has no rights. State only exists by crushing the rights of the people from whom it takes the money, thereby inpinging their ability to defend themselves and dictating that their defense will then be blended in and argued about, rather than them making their own decisions. And they use the excuse of well,

you've got to be preyed upon in order to defend everybody. Just like we talk about with public health, your rights can be sacrificed for the larger majority, which means every individual can be sacrificed for their determination of the larger majority within the state. Whoever can get the power of the state. That's why everybody wants to get power of the state. The very existence of the state of Israel is an affront to freedom. No state has a right to

defend itsself. Just keep that in mind. And by the way, any of the soldiers who are out there using weapons that were provided to them by a tax money, they don't have a right to use those weapons either. They have a right to defend themselves personally. But if they're sent out with fuel or food or clothing or anything that was gotten through the criminal means of thievery from individuals forced to pay for it, that's immoral. They shouldn't have

those things. They have no right to use them in any way whatsoever. They are the receivers of stolen goods, period. You can't argue about it. They are. Just because the state might acquiesce to giving them something doesn't mean that it's okay, that it's acceptable. Here's more, and here's Morgan is making a good point. It's the level of response here as far as from their viewpoint, state versus hamas state, something Douglas Murray doesn't seem to

remember about the origins of Hamas becoming the leadership state. And it seems that in the last few days there's been a number of incidents which really question whether Israel is being precise as it says it is or indiscriminate. And I would cite the killing of the three hostages. I would cite the killing of the two women outside the Catholic church. I would cite the President of the United

States saying that they're using indiscriminate bombing and so on. Do you, Douglas, notwithstanding your full throttle support of Israel, does anything that's been happening make you think Israel needs to execute this war differently? No? And I think that most of the people who think they know how to execute this war have never executed a war. And did most people who think they know how the idea should be running this conflict have never been near a conflict. I mean

Israel. Tonight, I was in Gaza again. Okay, so let's pause it there again as that eat my jelly beans. No, and I think anyone who disagrees with me has no concept of the way works. So, in other words, contrary to every tradition of freaking warfare going back to medieval days, mister British Douglas Murray, where you don't kill civilians and you don't take hostages. You're claiming that in order to take out Hamas, you think it's okay to go completely opposite of the rules of war. And many of

those are inside the Geneva conventions. But this great journalist doesn't seem to bring that up. Sorry, Douglas, I know I said I wasn't going to get intents. I'll get a little intense, just a softerminder, Douglas, A softer minder. We'll continue and yesterday. And the examples that you give, by the way, Pears, I don't see why they show any need to prosecute the war itself. Differently, I mean, just to take one of them. The first example you give the absolutely tragic, awful shooting of

these three hostages as they were coming out. But you know, some of the spin that's been put on that in the world, apart from the glee of course of Isabel's enemies, can't help expressing some of the spin on that is almost as if it shows the idea, if it's a sort of so brutal that it even kills Hamaz hostages who are Israeli. I just think this is another example of the international media and others just having this astounding lack of

empathy for the Israeli people. Can you imagine what it was like for those soldiers who are in Gaza, knowing that at any point there are snipers, there are booby traps everywhere, people coming out of tunnels they've built at British and American taxpayer expenses and attacking them. Can you imagine what it was like for the soldiers who, in that terrible moment, made the life changing mistake of shooting three people who turned out to be Hamas hostages. Why would they

on that? Why would they shoot anyone who was shirtless and waiving an SOS flag? I mean, why would whoever they were hostages or whether they thought they were Palestinians, why would anyone shoot anyone who comes out like that? That's my point. That'll that'll be a matter for the inquiry into it. But look, it's hardly as if they'd have wanted to have done that.

What this demonstrates is, in this incredibly close conflict, in a heavily built up area, people coming out from all sides, firing, shooting, detonating. People make mistakes, of course they do. That's just a human reality of war. Horrible as it is, I don't think it shows in any way that Israel is prosecuting this war wrongly. As for the main issue of the war, the main issue of the war is to destroy him As. No Israeli have left or right or center believes anymore are for October seventh.

They can live beside her mass As has been given the statement of Gaza. It's given it in two thousand and six, voted in, then killed their fellow Palestinians in a coup, killed Fatah rivals, and they've run all right.

So let's pause it right there again. Douglas Murray never mentions during this twenty two almost twenty three minute exchange that Benjamin Netanyaho himself and the government of the United States supported Hamas, and in particular net Ya, who on record more than once said that it was important to support Hamas because they would not negotiate, and then they would be an oppositional force. Rather than negotiating.

They would want to make sure that Israel wouldn't expand anymore, and that by having the oppositional force in there, they could then say that they weren't negotiating with Hamas wasn't open to them, they were cold, they were death to their entreaties, and therefore they had to take violent action against Hamas. He

set it up for more violence. Literally, you can extrapolate that logic and know you can know that Benjamin net Yahoo and his supporters knowingly tried to put Hamas in aware of the fact that they were increasing the risk of innocent Israelis getting killed by Hamas by more tit for tat fighting rather than negotiation. He took that role. He pushed that. The United States government pushed it. The United States government again is not calling for the extradition of the leaders of

Hamas from Cutter. What's going on there, I don't understand, And I'm going to go back a little bit. I was considering as this was rolling, I was like, I just want to let Sank make his points, But I do think it's important for me to bring up a couple other points. If we go back to about three point fifty here three thirty. Let me go back to about three thirty in this Listen to what he says here go back to about three twenty. What he says, here's everywhere people coming

out of tunnels. They've been booby traps everywhere, people coming out of tunnels. That's the first point, logically speaking, If this place is so densely populated as we have heard that it is, which it is five miles by twenty five miles, as as the Israelis have continued year after year, decade after decade, encroaching and croaching, whether it's through military occupation, whatever it is, bulldozing old homes, raising up the new districts for Israelis, right,

all those things. First of all, if they're like that, how could they booby trapped all these places so quickly and still think that the innocent people walking around are going to get around? How could they function? Did they do it that quickly? Could they make the booby traps that quickly? Do they care the Hamas care about the civilians? I don't know. That's just a question as far as the geographics and the logistics of it. How

could people move if there were booby traps everywhere? Right, that's one thing. So I question how much booby trapping the Hamas fighters have been able to do I don't know. Maybe they could get the stuff out there quickly, but it couldn't have been around there all the time. Booby traps all over the place. People couldn't function. What would you do, right If you've got IEDs on the streets when it's civilian time, people will be blowing up

all over the place. How does that work? The second thing is if they were doing it in preparation, Well, the Israeli troops have been on every streak there manhandling people, taking people away, women and children, over and over again every day. You saw footage of how they block a guy from even allowing his son in law to come into his house. They have a gate in front of the dude's front steps because he's right on the edge of this zone. The Israeli troopers are all over the place. They're like

the stormtroopers from Star Wars, so they don't have the white outfits. So if that's the case, is it possible that a gorilla group under their noses could booby trap the whole city so much and then they don't discover it until now that they're going and bombing buildings everywhere and telling people to evacuate to the south which they then bomb again. None of this this doesn't make any sense. And this is a guy who says he's been on the ground there.

Of course he's in Israel hanging out in a hotel. Now, I'm just saying that it makes it very different cult to believe what he's saying if you start to logically think about it. And maybe I'm missing a few things on the logical process on this because I don't know enough about the operations of gorilla fighters on the ground. Maybe I just don't know, but there seems to be a problem here for his claim that there are booby traps everywhere? Is

that why they got a carpet bomb everything? Are the booby traps actually unexploded IEDs? Are they cluster ammunition that the United States gave to Israel and Ukraine. It's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. And the final bit, I want to play just this little bit again. Here we go build a British and American taxpayer expenses and attacking them. Can you imagine what it was like for the soldiers who, in that terrible moment, made the life changing mistake of shooting

three people who turned out to be Hamaz hostages. Would be on that. Why would they shoot anyone who was shirtless and waiving an SOS flag. I mean, why would you heard the question and you heard his ridiculously fatuous answer. Now I want to give you other information and we'll come back to this video in just a minute. You remember how I said, if you use the logic of well, it's just war, as we saw on CBS news, oh yes, these things happen. No, that's the passive voice.

People killed other people, agents of the state who got their weapons off of threatening taxpayers to cough up the money for it and claim that they were getting their defense for them. They engaged in killing innocent civilians who paid the taxes to pay for the guns, that killed themselves. That's the IDF. Of course, that's every state if they turned the guns against their own civilians. This case seems to excuse it to say, well, it's just war.

Same thing with killing of the civilians in Gaza. Right, it's just it's war. Again. The rules of war are that you don't kill civilians, right, you don't rape women. Now, gozzans killed civilians. The rape accusations a little fuzzy. Not sure about that stuff. Killing definitely killing after Israeli forces killed numerous of them after they killed after Israeli back back, back

back in time. Right. Okay, But again the argument is if the Israelis can make the argument, well, we're going in to rescue hostages. Well, as I said, if you want a little bit of evidence here, let's turn to Al Jazeera just to make this point plain. I've mentioned in a number of times, but I haven't shown you the information. Jailed without charge how Israel holds thousands of Palestinian prisoners. This from the twenty ninth

of November twenty twenty three. As Palestinian prisoners were being released last week, Israel imposed a ban on celebrations by their family members. Oh I don't remember Douglas Murray, mentioning that expressions of joy, National Security Minister Adamar ben Gevir said our equivalent of backing terrorism. Israel has presented imprisoned Palestinians as terrorists and

has subjected many of the detainees to abuse. But of the three hundred three hundred Palestinian women and children whom Israel has identified for potential release as part of the humanitarian pause between Israel and Hamas, nearly eighty percent were not even for normally charged. Like I said, some have been held over a year,

not charged, badly mistreated. An overwhelming majority of Palestinian prisoners were arrested under a quasi judicial process known as administrative detention, under which Palestinians are initially jailed for six months. Their detentions can then be repeatedly extended for an indefinite period without charge or trial. Oh, Barack Obama likes that idea. You wanted

to do that to us. Most Palestinians, including children, are tried in military courts and handed lengthy sentences in what critics call sham military trials because in many cases, Palestinians are deprived of defense, lawyers and due process. Douglas, what happened to you Western tradition? You're so proud of England and Britain in comparison, Death of the West? Was that the name of your book,

Douglas, Death of the What? In comparison? Israeli citizens are tried in civil courts, highlighting the two tier justice system that discriminates against Palestinians. Here's a look at the treatment of Palestinian prisoners, how Israel has weaponized administrative detention and why many Palestinians are forced to go through Israeli military courts. Look at that Israel is holding at least two thousand and seventy Palestinian detainees without being

charged or allowed to stand trial. The detainees, including women and children, can be held by the military for renewable periods based on secret evidence that neither the detainee nor their lawyer is allowed to see. It shows you the rise towards twenty twenty three. Gee, I wonder why Hamas might have been getting more and more agitated. That doesn't excuse the violence. It just says, hmm, I wonder if there's another force at work here. Who's on the

list? The vast majority of the Palestinians two hundred thirty three prisoners out of three hundred on Israel's release list have not been formally charged and were held as administrative detainees. An overwhelming majority of them are children. The youngest is fourteen, who was probably thirteen when he was brought in. Almost three quarters of them are from the occupied West Bank, which has seen a surge of arrests

since the start of Israel's war on Gaza on October seventh. The West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem had already seen a spike in Israeli raids this year even before the war. The longest serving prisoner among the three hundred has been held for one hundred and two months or eight and a half years. Well, I just send it to Guantanamo. I might want to change the scenery and then you know, Ron DeSantis can come visit and then later say I didn't

see a thing. I know nothing. Let's get back to Douglas Murray and let's sink offer us more information. I hope this is valuable for you. I hope it's providing you something. Whoever they were, it's ready hostage, whether they thought they were Palestinians. Why would anyone sure shoot anyone who comes out like that. That's my point. So again I'll just make that point.

If the Israelis can make the claim that they can kill innocent people because they're rescuing hostages, this is you got to make sure that I make this point. This is a very very important point. I want to reiterate it. I've done it a few times. If the Israelis can make that argument, then Hamas can make the equal argument looking at what the Israelis have done, holding those people hostage that way with no trial whatsoever, easily easily make

that our does Douglas Murray even acknowledge that. No, that'll be a matter for the inquiry into it. But you know, look, it's hardly as if they'd have wanted to have done that. What this demonstrates is in this incredibly close conflict, in a heavily built up area, for people coming out from all sides, firing, shooting, detonating, people make mistakes. Of course they do. That's just a human reality of war. Horrible as it is, I don't think it shows in any way that Israel is prosecuting this

war wrongly. As for the main issue of the war, the main issue of the war is to destroy Himaz. No Israeli have left or right or

center believes anymore. After October seventh, they can live beside herms Hajamaz has been given the statelet of Gaza. It's given it in two thousand and six, voted in, then killed their fellow Palestinians in a coup, killed Fatah rivals, and they've run the Gaza for almost eighteen years now, and they've produced the new general generation of people whose main aim in life it seems, according to their textbooks and their classes, is to regard Jews as enemies who

should be killed. This is just an unbelievable waste, a waste of life on every side, but apart from anything else, a waste of those Palestinian lives of children who grew up under Hamas's rule, if you can call it that, who have been indoctrinated into becoming sociopaths by a psychopathic terror organization Hamaz okay, So let's pause it there again. He says they've been indoctrinated into becoming psychopathic. Let me just ask you again, as you know, they

can't come and go from that place. They can't just enter and leave, as we saw Aaron Mante's father mentioned, and also Norman Finkelstein mentioned, many of those people who have lived there, if they're under twenty, they have never been outside those gates. Claim that it's Homosa's fault that these people are somehow getting hypnotized and brainwashed to dislike the Israelis that have corralled them and held them in and continued to press in on them. That defies any sort of

believability. Oh oh, they would love is the Israel otherwise it's those terrible leaders in Hamas that Benjamin de Yeah, I wanted to make sure we're still in there, that the US government gave money to, you know, to leave a preposition dangling again, logical inconsistency, evidentiary, very very strained, really really bad. All right, Jick, you've been listening to that.

Is there anything that Douglas said that you agree with? No, nothing, not even about the way the Massas has presided over Gaza in the last eighteen years. Yeah. So that's a weapon of mass distraction. It's Israel doing genocide on the Palestinians right now. And there's idea of soldiers singing and in video that the IDF has confirmed about how they're going to wipe out the seat of Amalik. That is a verse in the Old Hebrew Bible that talks about

exterminating Almalik. So they're talking about genocide against Palestinians. Benjamin Netania, who has also talked about wiping out Amalik. These are open calls for genocide. What I find stunning, you know, douglas mention is stunning lack of empathy. There's twenty thousand dead people in Palestine right now, in Gaza. Over

eight thousand of them are children. When thirty six Israeli children were killed by Hamas, the world cried out and I was broken hearted over it, thirty six poor kids dead in Israel. Now there's over eight thousand dead kids in God. You want to talk about a stunning lack of empathy, six four hundred women slaughtered in Gaza. You want to talk about terrorism, They're dropping

unguided bombs, two thousand pound bombs. Every one of those bombs is an act of terrorism, and the stunning lack of empathy towards Palestinian lives is disgusting. But I want to be clear it is not shared by all Israelis. The dad of one of the hostages who was killed went on Israeli television and said stop killing them, and he didn't mean the hostages, he meant the Palestinians. I was jumping. But before I go back to Dunas, resp

yeah, I will let you reported that on this issue of genocide. Do you accept a massive whole raise on debts when it comes to israel Is genocide. They want to eradicate Israel and kill as many Jews as they can, and there'd be no secretive things. Yeah, so this is really important. So I have no sympathy for Hamas, so I am not interested in defending Hamas. I think that's nothing but a distraction because right now they're not fighting

Hamas, they're just killing Palestinians barely. No, no, wait a minute, barely. But let's go to your main point. Okay. So the main point is, well, Hamas threatens X, Y, and z and has killed twelve hundred people on October seven. So that is why we have to all worry about what Hammas might might might might do. Hold on, let they finish the point. Let me finish the point at what they might might might do if they had infinite power, the kind of power that Israel

has. Meanwhile, Israel is actually doing the genocide, is actually preventing a Palestinian state, as saying you are not allowed to exist, and if you dare try to exist, we'll kill it. If you're children and women, all right, Douglas respond to that several things. First of all, anyone who uses the term genocide in this context simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

A wisdom, a levelent actor. I don't know if mister Week has traveled at all in his life, how far he's traveled, how many conflicts he's seen, But I'd have guessed none. And you clearly know nothing about this particular conflict, and you've obviously seen none of it. The genocide that you describe is such a smear and a libel against the Jewish state. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, I'm sure it could, but it doesn't.

It doesn't remotely want to. And people like you and other pro Palestinian propagandists have spent years claiming that Israel as committing genocide in the gas And by the way, the weirdest thing about this claim is that the population of the gas that has grown by a million in the last fifteen or so years. So I just had to posit there, everybody, because when you hear him say the population has grown, that's a total non non factor that has nothing to

do with it. It doesn't say how much more would have grown the what the slaughter rate and the arrest rate was due to the IDF, the so called Israeli Defense Forces and over on Rumble Geesebusters makes a great point IDF equals IOF israel Offensive forces and Risha m. Says, Oh, Birdhouse says yeah. Risha em says watched another short documentary on ex female IDF saying how they would put cigarettes out on kids, shoot kids, take pics of the dead

bodies. Just awful stuff. Yes, some people are speaking out, very very good stuff, very important. Taylor Saunders in Rockfin says Douglas is an idiot and has issues. His eye movements indicate he has a psychopathic He is a psychopathic fool. Well, I certainly think that by his statements, he seems to be much more inclined in absolving people of aggressive actions by using terms

like well, it's war and then just ending it there. He also seems very inclined to insult the people rather than the statements which sank Younger actually was talking about the statements and the lack of empathy. And I also will point out that Piers Morgan allowed Douglas Murray to speak a lot more and gave him much softer. Although he did bring back some good points, he didn't interrupt and start arguing the way that he was arguing with sank very very quickly.

But we'll continue here we go. So, if Israel was trying to carry out of genocide. It's either the worst perpetrator of genocide ever or uniquely poor at performing that task. None of the stats support that ridiculous claim. It's such a weird smear and the libel of Israel. Secondly, of course, you've just raffled off Hama's figures, as every one of your kind always does. Thirdly, said that the world a world cried you said, You said

that the people like you who cover for the Palestinian extremists. Thirdly, you said that the world cried out for the thirty six is really dead children. No, they didn't, and you know that very well. You know that very well. If you put up a poster to a missing dog in any Western city, that poster stays up in city after city. In America, posters of abducted Jewish children, including a ten month year old baby, were put up and were ripped down by people who have been indoctrinated into hate of

Jews. Nobody would rip down the poster of a missing dog, But from Dublin to Berkeley, they ripped down posters of abducted Jewish children. So no, I don't think there was. We let's make two other very quick points. Firstly, you said what Hamas might do, as if it was some kind of hypothetical. Hamas showed what they do, what they wants to do. It showed it on October seventh, and it's leadership, as I'm sure you very well know, said that they would like to repeat that again and

again until they have got rid of every juke. So I don't know I would trust Hamas's word on that rather than your interpretation of what do you think they mean when they say that? And you're so, why is it again? Why is it that Benjamin and Yahoo supported Hamas? It's conflict, there isn't it. Sank doesn't bring that up, But we'll continue and your generous

interpretation of what you think that means. And finally, as for preventing a Palestinian state, it is nonsense that the Israelis have prevented a Palestinian state. They gave the Gazans Palestinian state in two thousand and five. They gave them a Palestinian state in two thousand and five when every Jewish person was ripped from their homes in the Gaza by IDF soldiers. And so let's see if we can figure this out. Then the Israeli nation has grown year after year.

It has not contracted. They gave in two thousand and five, two thousand and six, they gave Hamas political control of an ever diminishing land mass, with people being pushed further and further closer together. And that's a sacrifice by Israel. Oh, Okay, the Palestinian people were given a state, and

what did they do? They voted in Hamaz, who then killed their fellow Palestinians, never had another election, and used all the billions of dollars of taxpayer funds from the US, UK and Europe to build terror tunnels and to enrich themselves so they could live the life of luxury and kata again and again there again, I'll say, has he called for them to be brought out of Cutter? Has he complained that the United States government has not asked for

extradition for these terrorists. If they're supposedly terrorists, if they're the leaders, why don't they tell Cutter to extradite them, bring them to England, put them on trial? Right eason, there is not a Palestinian state is because the Palestinian leadership doesn't want one, Okay, do want one? In nineteen preferred war and it doesn't want one. Now, we put one point to you, raised by Queen Rani of Jordan in a new piece for I think

it was a Washington Post. In just over two months, you said Israel's turn Gaza into a healthscape. At least eight thousand children have died, more than the death tolls of Pearl Harbor September eleventh and Hurricane Katrina combined. These are gigantic and horrendous numbers of children being killed. Do you not have any commands about the number of children que being killed? I mean, does it

a lot suggest that Israel hear? I want to quit. I want to hear Queen Raniah talking about this as much as I want to hear Queen Camilla or Megan Markle. I mean, it's pathetic. Queen Rania is holding onto her own possession of position in Jordan. The only piece of advice she has for anyone is how to marry a king. Queen Rania herself is just playing a very nasty political game. If she cared at all, and I would pose this to all the states in the region, if Jordan cared at all

for the Palestinian people, they would take them in. They would take them in let me want them. There you go again, just treating the people as if well, they can just be moved around, and it's perfectly fine that they be pushed around, moved around, as they have been slowly pushed and pushed and pushed every year, every few years by the Israelis, new bulldozers, new settlements. Always we keep hearing about him every few years.

And instead of actually addressing the point, he attacks the woman's character and says, oh, I don't want to pay attention to what she says, Well, how about what she claimed? If you would like to dispute that rather than calling her names, that might be worthwhile and constructive. But you don't. Egyptians wanted them, They take them in, but they don't you know why, because every country that takes in the Palestinians gets terror. It happened

in Does it matter? Why or why not? Are you going to ascribe motors for why they should or shouldn't take people in? How about no, how about your neighborhood Egypt. It happened in Jordan, it happened in Syria, it happened in Lebanon, it happened in Tunisia, on and on. That's why these people don't really care about their fellow Muslims. They just care about hating Jews, all right, Jack, your response, Yeah, So you asked if he cared about eight thousand dead babies and his answer was no.

Queen Ranya bothers me so complete non answer because he doesn't care. He doesn't think the Palestinians' lives are worth anything. You just call them all terrorized. You can put that on and this is what they do. So hold on, I let you talk for a long time. So why don't you shut up for a second. So, uh, we've got all these dead babies. We've got all of these dead babies that this monster doesn't care about.

He says, keep bombing them. A former intelligence officer said in the Israeli press they're using AI in a program called the Gospel, where he said, it's basically a mass assassination factory, and we could all see it with our own eyes, and you could do all the propaganda you want. No one believes your nonsense. We see all the dead women, we see all the dead children. Now, Israel has killed twenty times the number of civilians

that Hamas killed. So what I want Hamas in charge of Israel never never. I don't trust them and I don't believe that they would be benign. So all of this propaganda about oh like oh, people don't mind himas, No, we mind Hamas, we mind we terribly what happened on October seventh. And I'm now shown you different Israelis that have said that it's a problem and I want peace and security for both Israel and Palestine. And this does

not get Israel any peace or security. But when you ask the other side, do you mind tens of thousands of civilians that have been murdered, incinerated, alive, body parts picked out a rubble, little babies killed over and over again in what is even though there's really prime ministers replying to as alma luk meaning an extermination of the Palestine people. And I must clarify the difference between a genocide and a holocaust. A genocide is when you target a specific

people and kill a lot of civilians. Serbniza, where six thousand people were killed, was considered a genocide, So it doesn't mean you try to murder every single person on that race. That is a holocaust. Before we go to Douglas, check one question. You want to get rid of a mass two, as does Douglas as do I. If you don't do it the way that Israel is currently doing it, given that they live amongst the population, how else do you do it? Yeah, there's an excellent way to

do it, and there's the right way to do it. So let me explain. So war this guy talks about, Oh I love war. I go to all the conflict zones. So by watching it and ruling on for more death, I know something about conflict. You know nothing. So here's what reality is. War gets you moral war, but peace actually works. So when Israel did a peace deal with Egypt, not only were the Egyptians

state, but the Israelis became safer. That peace deal has held for decade after a decade, So how do you do a peace deal in this case? What you do is you make you do the two state solution now, and you do it with the Paladian authority in the West Bank. And if you then have a Palainian state, the Palasadian authority would have the credibility to drive out Hamas from Gaza. That is a realistic plan for both peace, security for Israel and the Palestinians, and driving out Harmas. The idea that

you're going to kill two hundred thousand more civilians. Let me and it's going to drive Let under answer that. Let's lead unrespond the first of all, First of all, I mean your other guests. I mean, I don't know what kind of a creature here is. He's a kind of low grade thug. As far as I can see, he's listened to nothing. I've said, yeah, thing, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. No, it's not at all, it's not that at all. I just think

you're very I think you're just a very low rent racist. But anyway, let me just get onto it. You say, you say, first of all, you say I don't care about the death Palestinian children. Yes, I do care. I care very deeply about it. But I also know that the responsibility for their deaths lies on Hamaz, which has misgoverned their society for the last sixteen years and now has been leading the country into being in a war with Israel. So yet, all right, so you probably have

seen that many many times. What I think is interesting is this is like somebody from the United States government accusing people that have been stuck on an Indian reservation of being angry at the United States government and the leaders of the Indian Reservation whom the US government has subsidized to be the leaders of the Indian Reservation somehow mismanaging things inside the Indian Reservation even though the US government wasn't allowing resources

and controlled all those resources inside the Indian Reservation. That's what I see from Douglas Murray. That's what I see. And I want to compliment again sank Unger or sank Junger or whatever. Sorry I keep mispronouncing his name for doing a stand up job holding his call for quite a while. And what was interesting was this guy Murray kept tweaking him and needling him, interrupting him with little sounds and breathing and finally sayings like we just shut up, let me

talk. And then the guy opens up like, oh, you're very courteous, aren't you, after repeatedly interrupting Saint Junger. Just incredible, just incredible. It's a gas lighting technique. It's one hundred percent gas lighting, which is the same thing as his rhetoric. Israel has to be able to engage in the slaughter of innocent people in order to protect innocent people. Get it. And if you don't like that, then you must be in favor of

the slaughter of innocent people. Get So there you go, everybody. I hope that was okay. I thought it was worth playing the whole segment from my show last night, because you know, I wanted to get that out there. Sometimes story might dominate for an hour in an interview with someone who has a new book, or you know, someone with some great expertise on a subject. Maybe they've traveled somewhere, they've been working in a field and

it's so interesting. So I hope you didn't mind me putting that information out there, drawing out the experience from last night's prog and doing that sort of mimic of that amount of time for that particular subject for what we did. You know, oftentimes on a talk show or a news show, you might spend ten twenty minutes on a subject to dig into it, get some more information the next day, maybe reveal some more ask the opinions of the viewers.

And this one went a little extended on my own on this because I wanted to show that to people. And then I got to read some of the comments and we did some more as I closed off the program, So as we close off the David Night program, first, I want to go into the Rock finchat because as I've been here on the side, I want to thank everyone so much. Greg Talent contributed to the program early in the show, and then Tornator contributed as well, and he said, thank you

for doing double duty this week. While David is away, podcasters like you are living the dream for us in the audience. I'm just glad my occupation gives me multiple hours to receive my download of Truth every day so I can vicariously live the dream with you. Although I can't start my own podcast for various reasons, I do make memes on occasion that I'd like to share with you somehow. Well. Thank you Tornator and contact me on the backside of

Twitter. It's at guard Goldsmith and that would be great. That would be awesome. And Jason Barker again, great contribution Jason over at Rock Finn. Thank you, Thank you, Jason. He says, thanks Guard, you rock well, you rock too, Jason. I love you man. You guys are just great people, just awesome people in the David Knight audience and David Knight and his family as well, and there were some amazing observations with

inside both of the chats. I want to acknowledge Narrowway Narrowgate Ministry for coming up with so many great Biblical references, and also some people comparing their thoughts about sank And again, yeah, I had a lot of mixed feelings about him. I still do. But you know, when when someone says the right thing, or someone consistently like Russell Brands, somebody said, you know,

why are you promoting Russell Brand? I just want to mention know, Russell Brand had a change of heart, he had to overcome his addiction problems, and he had done some really, really terrible things in the past. So you say to yourself, do you give a person like that a chance? Well, he consistently shows me in over and over again. He's not yet a Christian, although now he's reading the Bible. They're doing a Bible

study on his show, and I don't think it's fatuous. He's really interested in these sorts of things, and I think part of the reason that he's so interested in and this part of his nature, but I think also this exploration of the greater power and now he's reading the Bible. I'm not saying he's necessarily going to become a Christian, but it reveals a change of heart as he became sober and changed his life and apologize for those things that he

did in the past, profusely apologized. And you know, you can't change those pasts, but if you can show consistently that you've had a change in heart with your behavior. I don't think he's a cutout. I don't think he's you know, controlled opposition or anything like that. I think he's honest and straight up. He gave up a lot in his life, and so I'm gonna let his behavior continue talking and showing me if he's covering these stories

in these ways. Maybe I'll disagree, you know, once in a while, but I keep getting great information from Russell Brandt, so I give him a chance. And I love the people that are redacted. They're also fantastic, and I like Glenn Greenwald, has some disagreements with him. Jimmy Door same thing. So you know, give give folks a chance, try to be as positive as it can. And boy, I wish I could get to all the comments. David will be back on Monday, everyone, and

I really appreciate the comments in there. People wondering when David's going to be coming back, and also the contributions as well, and yeah, I really appreciate you being with me here on the program. I'll conclude with yeah, of course, a little bit of something extra from David as we say good night, good you got that, good afternoon, whatever time zone you might be calling your home, and we'll go with a little something from David and

the family, which is I think a pretty nice one. Check this out, we'll say fairly well. Thank you so much for being one great group of people supporting the David Knight Show. Get Better Tony Rdeburn, remember Wise Wolf, Gold and Silver Exchange. I'll see you tonight on Liberty Conspiracy, on Rockfinn Rumble and on Twitter It's at guard Goldsmith JRD. And again, thank you so much for welcoming me. Hope you did a good job for you today, David and the gang, and take care everybody. Thank you

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