Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. I'm your host Arizona Cardinals and ESPN broadcaster Dave Pash, and my guest this week is Arizona Cardinals starting quarterback Josh Dobbs. Not only is Josh Dobbs one of the best stories on the team, he's one of
the best stories in the NFL. This year, he's tenth in the league in passer rating and as you know, he was acquired just a couple of weeks before the start of the regular season, and he's made a seamless transition to not only being the quarterback of the team, but being a winning quarterback. Obviously the Dallas Cowboys game, but just looking at his numbers, whether it was the Giants in particular the first half, or his numbers against San Francisco, albeit in a losing cause, it's been really
impressive to watch Josh Dobbs. And Josh is a great story. We're going to get into that a little bit talk about something that's very passionate to him, and that's raising awareness for alopecia, something he has had in autoimmune disorder that he's had since he was in the third grade. We'll also talk about his background as an aerospace engineer and his goals for life after football.
Go to space and come back. Yeah, go to space and definitely come back. I think it's something on my bucket list. Obviously that's a huge decision to make, but yeah, I think that'd be really cool.
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on a Cardinals quarterback Josh Dobbs. So, Josh, as I was mentioning before we get on here, you and i've met, but I'm sure back at Tennessee, you're doing national games every week, so you're always meeting with the TV announcers. But after every time we did a Tennessee game, they always would provide you and we'd always walk away like, Okay, that guy's a study, that guy's smart, and obviously you're a terrific player at Tennessee. First of all, you're wearing
a hat that says Astro Dobbs. Yeah, can you fill me in?
Yeah. So during my time at Tennessee, obviously studied aerospace engineering, and so I got like two nicknames like Astro Astro Dobbs and then like Pastronaut, which has been going around a lot lately. So I started just a little brand around Astro Dobbs and started my foundation around it, to Extraordinary Dolls Foundation. So I always rocked the hat obviously because it's you know, me, and then like my passions
and everything, it's cool. It seemed like the support and people start rocking the hats too as well.
I was gonna say, is this starting to blow up. Now with the way E've ben playing and the way things are going.
Yeah, people are starting to cop the hats. This one's actually brand new, so I got to add it to my site. So I just started. I just got a couple of new hats in for this season, so I got some new drops coming coming along, so I'll be sure to keep everyone posted.
All right, So if we want to get them, where do we go to get him?
You go to astrodobs dot com. It's on my Instagram TikTok Twitter, astrodobs dot com and everything's right there.
Okay, I'm gonna get myself one.
Yes, sir.
So my one of my daughters is in a serious relationship. My guess is they're going to get married. And he is an aerospace engineer. Is this like slam dunk husband material?
Being an aerospace in it has to be, man, I don't I don't know where he works or who he works for.
He went to a SU Were you almost?
Yeah? I almost went to a su I'm guessing is he is he? I'm guessing he wants to get his pilot license or does he have his pilot that.
It's above my pay grade. I was a broadcast major, So I don't know.
Okay, well she might be a frequent private pilot at some point. I'm sure good. I could use that.
I mean sometimes get from the college game to the Cardinals game. Sometimes tough, exactly exactly, it's very useful. So but yeah, I know, be an AIRS position to definitely husband material without a doubt. So you interned it NASA. What was your day like when you interned there?
It was crazy? So that was back in twenty nineteen, and so I spent a month down there at Kennedy Space Center. So I actually did twice twenty nineteen twenty twenty, right before COVID. So I would basically show up to the VAB Vertical Assembly building, so by you know the old shuttle pictures, like you see the shuttle rolling out the big tall building, it looks like it's out of the transformers. I would show it like that was like
I had an office in there. So I show up to that building every day and basically I would meet with a different engineer who was working on the mobile launcher and I would shadow them and see what they do. So a lot of it was kind of in like the instrumentation division of what NASA was doing. So the mobile launcher is what carries the rocket from that vab vertical assimbly building out to the launch pad. And so the mobile, the mobile launcher and the launch tower sits
there and it moves back and forth. Now the rocket comes from all different parts of the United States and gets assembled down at Kennedy Space Center. So I'll show up, boom shot out. Different engineer learned about it, and then
the next year I got really involved. So it was virtual, but I was with their Razor group, which does a lot of kind of like their futuristic technologies, and so they're working on a lunar rover, and I basically was tasked with figuring out which rocket was best for that lunar rover to be to be on to eventually go to the Moon, which is probably about to go to the Moon, probably around this year.
So how do you decide which rocket fits that? So you're the one that goes the next one that goes to the moon, we can you'll be able to say, hey, I was part of the decision exactly.
So there's probably about five different rockets that are about to start being launched in the Moon pretty frequently. These are all unmanned rockets, and so on each of these rockets, they basically a company can pay for a payload spot for their rover or their experiment to go to the Moon. Right, So for me figuring out one is taking the size of this rover, figuring out can it fit on this
rocket in the capsule? And then they have all these different ways for whatever your experiment is because it's unmanned to be able to get off the capsule once it lands, lands on the Moon and be able to boom, go around, do whatever experiments, come back, reattach itself, and come back
to Earth. So it was then assessing, okay, like which one is most feasible from a cost standpoint but also a functionality standpoint for their rover to be attached to to detach itself from it, go around, do it whatever mission on the moon, come back, reattach, and come back to Earth safely with everything that they're trying to learn and test. So it was it was very unique. It was really cool. It was really cool. Oh my goodness.
Well, I mean, I want to talk football obviously, but I'm totally fascinated by all this because you're one of the most unique people in the NFL given your background, and when did you get interested in all this? Was this at a really young age or when it was when you were at Tennessee.
So it started really when I was really young my parents. You know, growing up, I was the only child, and I got involved in a lot of things like literally everything under the sun, like chess club, like I was in the chorus. I stink at singing, but I found that out pretty quickly. I had to do a little a solo in the fourth grade for one of our assemblies,
and I was awful. So I don't sing anymore. But I was involved in a lot of things in school growing up, and I really found a love for like math, science, STEM. I love planes, like aviation is a huge passion of mine. And so just as I progressed, my parents wanted to me, They're like, you should be a lawyer. You love to debate, you like to talk, You're good at speaking in front of people. But you know, I was more on I had the love for the math and science side, and
unless are the writing and reading. And so when I went to school, I took a couple of engineering classes in college, a couple of physics classes, and I mean excuse me in high school and I was like, okay, what two things? What am I good at? And what am I passionate about? And so what's gonna if you know, I can't play football forever, what am I going to have a career? And that I really enjoy? And so aerospace engineering was the was the perfect combination of both.
Now when I chose it, I didn't know it was gonna be the hardest major that you can choose going to college. So I definitely, I definitely, you know, bid out a big, big slice of pie going to school, just with the course load and everything. But I enjoyed it, man, I loved it. And it's really cool now seeing all the unique opportunities I've had off the field in.
So forgive me if this is a dumb question. You're clearly much smarter than me, so it might be a dumb question. But like, is the goal eventually to go to space in some way shape for.
Me to go to space? Go to space, come back? Yeah, go to space and definitely come back. I think you know a lot of people like, hey, like go to space, go to the moon, go to Mars. You know, obviously we haven't sent people to Mars yet, so we.
Have total recall.
Yeah, movie, we haven't, right, we haven't brought them back either, so but I think at some point, you know, I think it's it's really cool seeing the amount of commercial opportunities that are in space right now, the amount of you know, every day per se people that are starting to get opportunities to go to space become astronauts. So it's something on my bucket list. Obviously that's a huge decision to make, but yeah, I think that'd be really cool.
And Pastorna you mentioned was a nickname. Is that something that's recent, because I know it's been obviously blowing up right now.
I would say it's probably that one's probably more recent. That one was probably more recent. You know, Astro has been a big, big nickname of mine, Astro astrodobs. But pastronauts starting to get some steam, so we got to do some something fun around it.
You make all this sound so easy, and you've made football look easy the last month, and I'm just curious you get here. The trade happens just a couple of weeks before the regular season starts. How what was the biggest challenge in what part of it was easy for you? To transition.
Yeah, I would say the football part was probably the easiest part because it was the most consistent part. Transition is tough, especially in this business. You know, just picking up and moving at the drop of a dime, especially when you're not aware like that that that's coming is weird and a unique situation. But you know, I've done it in the past, and so I say, like just having to go through a similar situations per se in
the past preparing me for this one. And so it's been really cool, like coming here, you know, the support system that's been around me here and helping make it very seamless, and it's allowed me, you know, to focus on my craft, focus on football, focus on my preparation,
and enjoy that part of it. And so you know, I've I've found comfort in you know, the unknown and the uniqueness of the situation, but I've found a lot of comfort in the my preparation and the football side of it because it's been able to stay the same and I've been able to kind of dish off task and stuff to my support group, especially like the Cardinals have helped me out a ton, and just focus on the game and focus on preparation. And going out and playing good football.
What was it about this situation that when you found out about the trade that you felt good, You felt like you could succeed here because you're playing with a lot of confidence right now.
Yeah, I would say it's multiple things. One, the uniqueness of working with Drew and Izzy last year in Cleveland and having a very similar offense to be able to come into too. You know, my teammates that have accepted me and have done a great job of putting in the extra hours to get up to speed, right, Like, you know, little things that you're able to work through in OTAs and camp and shoot, Like the first couple of weeks leading up to the season, we didn't have
those opportunities. So it's been a crash course leading to get into the season, and so everyone's taking it in a stride, have done a tremendous job of getting up
to speed with me, and so that's been awesome. And then three, you know, just the confidence that the coaching staff and shoot this franchise has had in me to say like, hey, you know who you know out there in the NFL can we trade for that can give us an opportunity to go and win games each and every week, and it's a week before the season for them to pick me out and get blessed me with
this opportunity. Man, I've just been working hard to take advantage of it, put my best foot forward every Sunday because as always say, man, there's only thirty two starting quarterbacks in the world. You know, there's less than one hundred quarterbacks at the professional level in the world, and so to be one of thirty two, to be an NFL quarterback has always been a goal, a dream of mine. And what that means, said, you know, is now on me to make the most of the opportunity.
You've done that so far. You're not just one of thirty two, you're in the top ten of passer rating. Yeah, you know, knock on wood, no interceptions. I know that.
You know the team didn't win this past weekend, but you know, I've been here for twenty two years, and you know, just watching the way you guys fought and didn't give up that ninety nine yard drive in particular, can you kind of take me through that in your mindset there, because it looked again like guys are believing and not just what JG and the coaching staff are selling, but they believe in you.
Yeah, you know, we come into halftime right and we felt, you know, on offense, you know, knowing who we're going against, Robby thought we could have started a little bit faster, you know, And that's what I was said in the locker room. And so what we said to the defense was, you guys, go get a stop, get us the ball back. We'll make it a one possession game. And so defense went out, they did their job. They got to stop.
We get the ball back. And as an offense, our mentality is, no matter where the ball is, we have the ball in our hands, and that's the opportunity now to go score, whether it's on the one yard line our one yard line of their one yard line. Our goal is to put the ball in the end zone. And so everyone has the right mentality, man, And that's what's been so great about this team. You know, everyone's just no matter what happens, we're one play at a time, right,
one call at a time, executing that play. No matter what happens on the last play, boom, we're on to the next one. So get the ball and then everyone looking in the huddle, get the first first down. Get the drive start and go down and score touchdown, make
it a one possession game. Obviously, you know, we may have the outcome that we want it, but I thought it was a tremendous growth, growth moment, you know, as a team, right just playing that complimentary football against a really good football team where defense gets to stop and they're relying on the offense to give us a chance boom to get back in the game, and then we go out and execute. That's what those are kind of the start of what good good programs, good organizations, good
football teams are built off of. And so we keep doing that, we keep playing good, complimentary football, We keep growing on those little moments like that. Man, we'll continue to improve and start winning some games.
Are you this calm, direct and deliberate when you're in the huddle?
I like to say so. Yeah, I like to say so. You know, I've being around other quarterbacks and then obviously just my journey, man, I've learned that consistency. You know, people feed off of that. So knowing my preparation, Man, how I show up on Wednesday and how I show up on the game day, I want it to be the exact same, because one that helps me stay calm and focused and locked in on the task. And two, you know your teammates see that, right, They see how
you approach every single rep. They see how you approach every single day, and then ultimately they see how you approach the game. So having like this demeanor, right, I'm being consistent in that, now I get firing on game day. I think on my micd up show that a little bit. I changed a little bit of personality. But at the end of the day, man like I want to be that strong, calm, consistent voice and commander of the huddle, and we lead my guys each every time I step on the field.
I know you've been asked us a ton, but Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, back to Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, Tennessee, back to Cleveland. Here in Arizona. Did you doubt yourself at any point or did you always feel like you were going to get that opportunity to show what you could do? Was it hard to stay patient for that opportunity?
Yeah, you know, I never doubted myself. I would say I I gain more trust in myself. I would say that over that time. You know, when you get drafted to an organization. Man Like, I think everyone they they they view their NFL career as the storybook career. You know, you're gonna get drafted somewhere, you're gonna play there for twenty years, Your jersey are gonna get retired in the rafters, you're gonna get a gold jacket, and you're gonna ride
off in the sunset. And that does happen. And those stories are out there and there, and I think those are the stories that are sold obviously the most, because those are the stories everyone loves to see. But I would say, you know, ninety seven percent of the players in the NFL, that's not their story, that's not their journey,
that's not the opportunities they get. And so for me, man, like you know, getting drafted the Pittsburgh and leaving and then going back to Pittsburgh, all that really wasn't any
of my choices. When I was drafted to Pittsburgh, I was then traded to Jacksonville's then claimed back by Pittsburgh, and so from there, you know, after that year, going to my fifth or sixth year, you know, I said, like, at the end of the day, man, I got to start position myself with the opportunity one to show I can at least be a consistent two in the league, which will then ultimately give me the opportunity to be
a starter in the NFL. So, you know, a lot of my moves and transitions that have happened over the last year have been you know, me just putting that ultimate trust in my own skill set and ability and the ability to be able to perform on short notice.
So you know, leaving Cleveland was a choice of mine because while I was in Cleveland, man going into that situation, knew it was going to be a unique quarterback room with three new guys signed all in the same year, and obviously with the Deshaun dial going on, so I know at some point Deshan was gonna come back. I didn't know what the room was going to look like.
So ultimately chose to leave Cleveland because I knew, like, hey, like crazy things happen at the end of the football season, and I want to show teams that, you know, I've had a really good preseason, I can play really good football, and I'm looking for that opportunity to play. So end up going to Detroit and then getting signed from Detroit
to Tennessee to go play. So everything worked out because I had that trust and confidence in myself and then obviously coming here same thing, you know, having that confidence in yourself that even though short notice, you can still go out execute play really good football. And it might be a unique situation. But everything shoot, that went through the last three hundred and sixty five days has prepared
me for this opportunity. So I wouldn't say, you know, throughout throughout that time period, I ever, you know, lost faith in myself. Now, of course you might lose faith in the process. Right, there are some days you wake up and say, dang, am I ever going to get that chance? But in those days, man, I think those days are what make you right. Those are the days that when you wake up and you might lose faith in the process, but you haven't losed faith in yourself
and you still show up. You still are a professional, you still do your job at a high level. You still prepare as if you're going to start, even though you're not even dressing on that Sunday. Those are the days that are banked reps that then ultimately prepare you for opportunities like this. So it's been a tremendous journey. Tremendous ride is definitely far from over, man, But yeah, I mean I've loved every step of the journey.
Well, I was going to ask you what you think your role is because you know there's no givens in the NFL. First of all, we don't know when Kyler's coming back, and you know how he's going to do when he comes back. I mean, you keep playing like this, you know there's no guarantees that Kyler steps right in,
So like, how do you view it? Do you kind of like look at yourself and say, you know, if I keep playing like this, I'm going to make it a tough decision for the coaching staff to take me out of the game when Kyler gets healthy.
For sure. Yeah. I just you know, I control what I can control, right, Like as I said last week, you know, I know at some point Kyler's going to come back and decision's going to be made. And you know, for me, I understand that, and I understand his role and then the role that he's had in this franchise up until this point, and I respect that. And so as I said last week, like everything's gonna be okay, man,
But I control what I can control. And you know, as long as they tell nine to keep going out there, keep leading this team, keep playing quarterback, I'm gonna go out and put my best foot forward. And the day that role changes, I'll embrace whatever that role looks like. And I'll keep moving forward and still being Josh Dobbs, still being the person that I am. So you know, yeah,
so whenever that day comes in, it'll be okay. But until then and I'm putting my best foot forward, trying to leave these guys to victory every Sunday.
Can you talk about a relationship with with Drew pettsing? You know, how much do you guys talk during the week about the plan? How much are you talking during the game? For example, I brought up the ninety nine yard drive. Like to me, the first play of that drive, nobody remembers or talks about, but like you just diving ahead for three yards to give you guys a little bit more breathing room. Not a lot of teams do that, at least the Cardinals that hadn't done that the last
couple of years. How much come how much discuss? How many conversations you having with Drew throughout the weekend.
On game day, we're having a ton of conversations. Man, we talk she was starting yesterday about the past game, how how we can improve, and then today we're on to the Bengals and talking about first and second down thoughts, getting a head start on that. So then we come in on tomorrow and wrap up that start on third down.
So each day it's a discussion about a different part of the field, different zone on the field, and then as we get closer to the game days, more situational football thoughts and starting thoughts, how we're going to start the game, what we're gonna do on the big third downs, where we're gonna do on the red zone, and then you know, once we get in the game, the dialogue continues, right Like, I have a ton of dialogue with Izzy throughout the week for the most part, obviously because he's
in the room. And then Drew comes down and we talk as well. So the relationships grow, man, the you know, obviously I spent time with Drew last year. I didn't play, but we spent a ton of time together. I think, you know, just being able to talk football last year, for me to be able to pick his brain when he was in the position as the coach and now for him to grow into the role as that. Oh see,
those reps have helped us a ton this year. You know, when he calls plays, I feel like, you know, I know exactly what he's about to say as he's calling them into the huddle. And so as we continue to get reps together as the weeks continue to go by, that those the relationship right, the camaraderie per se, but the chemistry will just continue to grow. And so it's been great to see the steps that we've been able to make each and every week, just starting from week one.
Man that feels like a year ago. That guy here, Yeah, and so it only shows the steps that will continue to make throughout the year.
It seems like MANI us and for IT and JG they have a specific type of person that they want here as well as a player that there's more that's going into who's on the roster as opposed to just picking talent and picking players. Michael Wilson, you fit exactly the mold of what MANI and JG want. Michael Wilson seems like another guy. He actually kind of feels like a wide receipt version smart guy, went to Stanford. Both very good college players. He's a third round pick, you
were a fourth round pick. Talk about your connection with him and what you've seen from Michael so far. Obviously, it had a huge game this past weekend.
He had a great game. That was really cool for him to be back in the Bay obviously right down the street from school and ball out. Relationship has been awesome, Like he's been a guy since the day I got here. I think it was probably the first guy that came up and introduced himself in the lunch room right when I walked in. But he's always you know, picking my brain from a QB perspective of hey, like what can
I do better? Or hey let's get an extra rep on this, and then from there, you know, he's just so locked into the game plan and always you know, doing the right things exactly where he needs to be. Obviously, he's a great dude off the field, and so just seeing that, having you know, that safety blanket as a quarterback is awesome. You know, as you said, he's a great dude, and you know, I think guys like that are are tremendous opportunities to continue to build the team culture.
And chemistry around, and so I enjoy Obviously, I've loved the way he's played. He's made some huge plays, obviously the Dallas game with the big play to put his in position to seal it, and then last week with the two touchdowns and a couple other big time catches and big situations to put his in position to score. So it's been tremendous in his growth. Like when he showed up, I was watching some of the camp film and just watching him, was like, who's this dude? Like, Oh,
that's that's the rookie. I was like, Wow, he looks like a second third year player already. Yeah, and so he'll continue to grow and improve, man, But he's been awesome, and so I'm excited for him in his career.
Another guy that looks like he's been in the league for a while, and he's playing a position that I don't think he played a ton of Ohio State Paris Johnson mostly left tackle playing right tackle. What stands out to you about him and how he's played so far?
Man, he's had the gauntlet of guys the blog already this season. Man, that's been That's probably been what's been
so impressive, Right, like she had. He's had a slate of guys thrown at him, starting with the Commanders in the front that they have and than the Giants have a really good front, and obviously eleven Michael Parsons with the Cowboys and then last week Nick Bosa, and so he'll continue having more guys that he'll be tasked with blocking, but he's stepped up to the challenge every single week.
He has that right demeanor, that confidence in himself and you know, just you come in as a come in as a as a different as a new quarterback and having your alignment look at you and gets you hyped to go out and go out and play and take over games. Man, that's that's a great feeling. So he did. He does a tremendous job. Is really cool seeing his relationship that he's already created with DJ on the other side. Obviously DJ's played a lot of football and at a
very high level. But just seeing how he's learning from DJ and how to take care of his body, what to do off the field, getting into his routine as a rookie man, that that's very impressive. Just you know, being around the around the league and seeing guys man he's he's acting like similar to Mike as a vet, you know, already as a rookie and learning the right ways to take care of his body off the field in order to then go out and prepare and play high level football on Sundays.
A couple more, we'll get you out of here. Josh, You've always you've never shied away from bringing awareness to alopecia, something you've dealt with since I think you.
Were third or fourth grade. Yeah, third grade.
And just tell me about why you're passionate about making people aware of that.
You know, it's just part of my journey, and so everything that's part of my journey, man, I always love bringing attention to it. Obviously, having alopecia since the third grade, my journey's look different than some people with alopecia. For those of you who don't know, alopecia is the autoimmune disease that tax your hair follicles. Some people their hair is patchy, some people have no hair, some people have
a lot of hair. It affects everyone differently, but usually at some point you start losing your hair and it never really grows back. So for me, you know that happened in college where you know, lost my hair didn't really grow back. And being a divisional one quarterback, a really good Division one quarterback at a very prominent university, you're a lot of spotlight, so you get a lot of attention and sometimes people don't know what alopecia is.
Sometimes people are very ignorant to what alopecia is and that comes with the platform. So for me just to be able to show people that no matter what you're going through, everyone's going through something. Alopeca is a little more visual than other things that people go through on a daily basis, But no matter what you're going through, man, just be true to who you are, be yourself, have that confidence in yourself, and just control what you can control.
I'm a huge advocate for that. The kids that I've met, they have alopecia, the adults I've met that have alopecia, has been tremendous seeing the looks on their faces when they meet someone else just with alopecia, you know, not me being an NFL quarterback or college quarterback, just me being someone else that relates to them, that knows exactly what they're going through and their hair journey per se.
But also it's extremely confident in my own skin and showing them that, you know, if they can if they're confident in their own skin, man, they can define their own success in life. And so yeah, ALPC has been a great part of my journey. Man. It's molded me into who I am today, and so I definitely don't shy away from it.
Was there anybody in particular I read a story where You've got a chance to meet Charlie Villain the way of a former NBA player. Anybody specific that that you recall that encourage you when you need an encouragement.
Yeah, you know, I have a tremendous support group with with my family. Charlie's been awesome and he always says, you know, Alo Pisas doesn't have me, I have alopecia, And that just talks about just being comfortable in your own skin and accepting you know that alopieza is a
part of your story. Ryan Shazier is also one who I spent a lot of time with in Pittsburgh, and so just being around those those people, those individuals, those highly successful individuals that also may face the same ignorance sometimes that I've gone through, but still are able to stand up and take it in stride and still be true to who they are. It just has always served as a great example for me of how to proceed about my life.
Well, listen, it's been great covering your games here as a starting quarterback. And not only are you one of the best stories on the team, you're one of the best stories in the NFL right now. So congratulations on the great start, and let's keep it going this weekend.
Just do it for the time, man, I appreciate you, may Man, thanks for having me.
You got it, man, I could have just forgotten completely about football and talked rocket science with Josh Dobbs for forty five minutes, so entertaining, so interesting, and just hearing about his journey and all the things that he did as an Internet NASA and his goals for life after football. Also just incredibly impressive to hear about his passion for raising awareness for alopecia, something that he's dealt with since
a young boy. And also Josh's role as the quarterback of the Cardinals, his leadership, his relationship with Drew Petsing, and a guy that has had to wait his turn and be patient over two stints with the Steelers, two stints with the Browns Jacksonville, Detroit, Tennessee, and now with the Cardinals. It's great to see Josh Dobbs playing well. It's easy to root for a young man like Josh Dobbs.
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