The Dave Pasch Podcast - Jim Nantz

thousand and twenty three. We'll talk about the timing, and then I'll also discuss when he hopes to finish as the voice of the Masters. This will be his thirty eighth consecutive year calling the golf at Augusta coming up in twenty twenty three, I would like to be there for the hundredth playing of the Masters, and then we'll reevaluate because I'm only going to be seventy six. Lookno, many of our friends are still working at the stages later than that, like Al Michaels and on and on

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Gambling problem called one eight hundred. Next step, Time to talk with the voice of CBS Sports and one of the all time great guys in this business, Jim nance. Well, Jim, first of all, it's it's an honor to talk to you. You're one of my favorites. You're one of the best in our business of what you do, and you're such

a great guy. I'll never forget. Well. First of all, I met you for the first time when I was doing the Final four for NCAA International back in It was one of the two Florida Championships two thousand and six, I think. And then I'm sitting at a restaurant in New York City, delf Friscoes with my wife, and all of a sudden, the waitress comes over and says, hey, um, this gentleman next to you here would like to buy

you guys a drink. I look over and it's you, and and then you come over and hang out and we're chatting it up for a while. So that's that's what the fact. I remember that like it was yesterday. I think it was two and ten. I was doing the Big East Tournament in New York and I can't remember what you were there for. Maybe you were just out to dinner with your bride. But I'll never forget that. Jim, Well, you know, I didn't think you would actually remember that day,

but I remember it vividly. We were neighboring Booths, and it was a real thrill to meet you. And we have the gift and of being in the same industry, which is the childhood dream for each of us. And we also share, you know, not only a love of college basketball, which you are absolutely exceptional at fall in those games, I like you are with everything, but I get to see a lot of your work on college hoops when you're doing your Cardinals work during the fall.

I'm always on at the same time, so I don't get to enjoy it. But Pat McGrath, famous stats guy. Oh yeah, I worked with you a ton and I've had Pat by my side or I've been by his side more like it, for thirty something years on college hoops. So a lot of people out there, you know, you hear things in the industry, and everybody admiers and has great respect for who you are not only is a broadcaster, but more importantly what you like off the air. Oh

I appreciate that. Yeah, Pat has been He's been with you probably twice as long as he's been with me. But and I think Doug Collins, I don't know if it was you, I think it was Doug Collins that gave him the nickname Pat the Rat or PTR for short. But Pat's a great statistician. He's as good as there is. I think Pat the Rat the nickname belongs to Hankstram

That okay. He and Hank were close and I worked with Hank years and years ago, and one time I was on the air on him BBS and I was thinking, everybody on the crew and our great stats guy, Pat the Rat McGrath. Well, about two days later, Pat called sheepishly and said, would you do me a favor? I said, what is it? He said, Please don't ever call me that on the air again. I don't mind off the air, but my mom was watching and she was so confused. Why did he call you the rat? And she didn't

like that, and I said, never again, never again. On the air, He's just Pat McGrath. But yeah, optional guy, Jim. I've always thought somebody needs to do and I would love to pitch at ESPN. Somebody needs to do a thirty for thirty, a documentary on the life of the statisticians, because next to the players, the coaches, the broadcasters, no one has a better seat for the biggest events. And if I'm not mistaken. Pat McGrath has done thirty Final

fours and twenty five to thirty Super Bowls. Yeah, he's at thirty one Final fours and the super Bowl count is up there, really high all those years with the CBS Radio network in Westwood One, And that would be a fascinating thing to see because these guys kind of they come in with no fanfare. You're right, they're sitting right at mid court or the fifty yard line and they have this incredible access and the plus the fact that they can crunch numbers and how they just go

about the mechanics of executing their jobs. It's pretty funny. But it's an interesting group. They all know one another. Yeah, they're all very close knit. The stats guy from one crew knows stat guy from another. You know, Al Michael's stats guy knows my stats guy, et cetera, et cetera. So that's a good idea. I gotta get it to you. That would be an interesting doc just the idio different idiosyncrasies for these guys too, right, there's some different characters

out there. Yeah. I have a guy on football, Ethan Cooperson, who he walks into the booth like he did yesterday in Tampa and it might be fifteen minutes before kickoff. Now, he's done a lot of good prep work that he's forwarded than me during the week. But where's he been? How did he get here? He just kind of comes in, leaves, disappears. You don't even know he's there. But you get in the heat of the battle. This guy can come up with things like they all can, like Pat can. Yeah,

just amazing. Well, Pat will be with you for the Final Four in twenty twenty three, which, as was reported a couple of weeks ago, will be your last with CBS. And I'm just as Jim, what went into that decision? Why? Why the timing for you to turn that over to Iron Eagle after this upcoming Final Four? Well, it was time because my chest have been on what I'd like to call the Golden Hamster wheel for thirty seven years.

I have been a part of the NCAA Tournament and the Masters, in the PGA Tour and in as well as football, and there was really not an offseason for me. One season ends, the next one begins. Sometimes like the very next week, you go from the Final Four in the championship game and I'm in Augusta the next day, and it's it's thrilling, it's exciting, it's exhausting too, when

you get past the age of sixty. Has started doing all this when I was twenty six for CBS, so I've been at it for more than half my life and I needed to get some time back. I've got two young kids and an older daughter, but my little ones are six and eight, and I just cannot go through another ten years of basically Daddy only home five or six weeks a year or weekends a year. And

it started there. I've known for a long time that that was gonna be the sport that would have to come off the schedule, but it would still leave me with a full NFL schedule with Tony Romo for many years to comber both sign up for a long long time and anchoring the golf, so I still got forty weeks a year. It's just that five or six weeks removed what my basketball obligations were will make a profound difference.

And it came up on a year too, when the Final Four is in Houston, which was my gateway city to the industry coming out of the University of Houston and being around the basketball program there and being the public address announcer in the embryonic stages of Phi Slam a jama That's when I got my start with that basketball team, and it just felt right to come back to Houston and closed down baskets where it all started

for me. I thought it might have been because you just couldn't take Bill Raftery anymore, not on the air, but after the game. I worked with Bill when he was at ESPN, and like, if you left dinner before two in the morning, like you got an evil look. And then there were sometimes if you did leave, I'd be going to the airport for six am flight and he's just walking in. So I thought maybe it was because of raff I want your audience to know this is not embellished at all. Okay, this is so true.

Raft is such a treasure and he was my first basketball partner, by the way, Dave. Back in the nineteen eighty six and SA tournaments, my first tournament game I ever called was Duke against Old Dominion in Greensboro, North Carolina,

nineteen eighty six. So now all these years later, I'm going to come to my final tournament as a broadcaster, and there is a site at Greensboro the first week of the of this year's tournament, and you know Duke and North Carolina will an all likelihood be sent there, which means will be sent there. So it all comes

full circle. You know. I got to start with I'm going to end with raft and the Great Grant Hill was just such a gym, such a wonderful guy and a broadcaster that has really seized it and has just done super with it and will continue for years. But I love my teammates and I'm going to miss that part of it. Tracy Wilson. I gonna miss that part of it more than anything. But I do feel really great about I and getting a chance to do it.

He deserves to have that chance. Here's a stat for it, which is typical of Pat to come up with it. But before I transitioned from being the host of the Final four to calling the lead INCA a tournament package, Brent Musburger was doing the games, and Brent was a great mentor and friends, and I couldn't believe I was in his company the first six years of my career.

But bent Brent called six final fours in championship six he tied the record that belongs to Dick invert so Wrent and Dick that sticks championships each This coming tournament will be my thirty seconds. So it's been a long time, and you know, I don't want to get greedy about it. It's been a long time, and I've thought for several years that maybe it was time to start scaling back just a little bit and just reduce it to NFL

at golf. But with Houston out there off twenty three, this was years ago when they got they got the nod for the twenty three Final four. I told CBS even then that will be my last, so it came as no surprise to them, and just now it's official. Well, you will obviously be missed. But if there's anybody who is not only talented, but can handle Raftree and also just be a great ambassador for CBS and for college basketball to follow in your footsteps, it's it's Iron because

he's so good and he's such a great guy. I'm Jim about the Masters. I think this is thirty eight in a row for you. He talked about the run with college basketball, but longer on the Masters, how much longer do you think you'll go why would you ever stop with the Masters. I mean, that's well, I don't want to, but takes its course. But thank you for saying that I have one more Masters than I do NCAA tournaments because in the pandemic they canceled the tournament.

That you're the NCAA tournament, so they're off by one. But yeah, this will be thirty eight coming up at a custom and long ago, Dave, I'm talking nineteen eighty six, when Jack Nicholas won that historic sixth Green jacket. I was making my way back to the compound when Ken ventory, the legendary commentator on Hall of Fame golfer, pulled up in a golf cart and he said, where are you going, young man? I said, I'm walking back to the compound. Sir, he says, jump in, Jimmy, I'll give you a ride.

I was honored to be riding with him. This was my first Masters show, and I'd watched Ken my whole life, not realizing one day we'd be in the eighteen tower together for a long long time and he became a huge mentor of mine. But anybody, Ken says, how old are your son? And I said him twenty six? He said, well, I'm gonna make a prediction for you right now. One day you're going to be the first golfer to ever broadcast this event fifty times. I thought, Wow, that's profound.

I can't believe he thinks I have that kind of ability. Plus he called me Jimmy, which my mom, my, dad, my friends all call me because my dad was jim I was Jimmy still ams and my family members and close friends. Anyway, he said, you'll be the first to ever do fifty. But I'll tell you one thing, Son, You'll never live to see a day greater than this. Around AUGUSTA, so I had all these highs and lows, and that one little movie scene I had the high of Ken Ventrury calls me, Jimmy calls me Son, is

very father figurish. He thinks I have a modicum of ability to be able to make this outlandish prediction. I'll do this for fifty fifty years. And anyway, I look at it years later, Dave, and he'd really in a lot of ways to define my career. He set up what I wanted my career to be like. At the end, I wanted to do what Conventuri recognized that day. I wanted to do fifty and I used to say that too to close associates until a few years later, I

was actually being introduced. As bizarre as this sounds, Bib Venturi and Jack Whittaker and an event at Bellair Country Club They've jointly presented me, and I got up and told this story that I just told you about fifty masters. We retired that night after the speech over at the Hotel bel Air bar, and Jack Whittaker looked at me talk about an idol for me. He said, I heard what is set up there, Jimmy about fifty masters. I said, yes, sir, does sound crazy. He says, no, not at all, but

you need to adjust the count. I said, why is that, sir? He says, you need to do fifty one. I said, well, why, he says, because if you do it, the math on it, the fifty first masters for you will be the one hundredth playing of the Masters tournament. He said, you'll want to be there for that, but I think it's important for the masters that you be there for it too. So I tweaked it and that became the goal. Is weird as that number sounds, it's fifty one that would

take me to twenty thirty six. God willing that I get that chance. The help holds up and everybody still wants me to do it. Let me add that I would like to be there for the hundredth playing of the Masters, and then we'll reevaluate because I'm only going to be seventy six. Loo kind how many of our friends are still working at the stages later than that, like al Michaels and on and on and on. But yeah,

that's the goal, fifty one Masters. If I can get there, and I don't want to be greedy about it, that would be that would mean a lot to me in my heart. Well, I work with Hugh by Brown on NBA. He's eighty nine and he's still going strong. Jim you can do one hundred and fifteen Masters or Jimmy? Sorry? Can I call you Jimmy now? The rest I didn't realize everybody that you're you're friends with, and I would hope that we can call each other friends. I'm gonna

call you Jimmy. Um. But the fact that that would be you would have at that point have done more than half of the Masters. I mean, you'd be a synonymous and I think you already are because of you know, when people think of the masters, they they they hear your voice, they hear the music and then your voice coming up. Um, Hello friends. I'm sure you've been asked that so many times. When when did that start? What was the When was the first time you used it?

And wow, uh he say, my dog, he heard hello friends right on from my family protector. They're getting all wound up. The term hello friends was never intended to be anything that had lasting power or I would be associated with. It was purely the circumstance of me trying to come up with something that my father would know that I was thinking of him when I when I said goodbye to him at his bedside in two thousand

and two. It's only been around since O two. My father was fighting Alzheimer's disease and the mind was slipping by the day, and I would play these little tricks and word games with him. And as I left his side in Houston, I said, Dad, I'm gonna I'm gonna come on the air this weekend. I'm gonna say your name because my name is his name, and I'm gonna say hello friends. And that's for you because you have

nothing but friends. So when you'd see me on camera, you know, at that very moment, I'm thinking to you, Okay, you got it. I got it. Well. I walked out of the room realized there's probably a pretty good chance he had already forgotten it badly. But I carried that in my heart and from a golf event and Hazel team in Minnesota, I open up the third round coverage with a hello, friends, Jim nance here, you know, And

next thing you know, the show ends. I get a call from a very close friend of mine and said, hey, I heard you say all friends on the here. What was that about. I said, I passed them along a message to my dad. He said, well, that sounds like you. You ought to do that all the time. So I did it for the fourth round, the following weekend and every weekend thereafter. And you know, my dad's been gone since oh eight days, has been gone a long time.

But for that very bleeding little moment, as I'm on the air and trying to get get us started, I look into that lens that gives us absolutely no feedback. As you know, you look into that dark camera lens and you don't think about the millions of people on the other side. But I look at it and I think of him. For I just it flashes in my head every time yesterday, and for me it's a nice comforting moment. I feel like he's right with me and

it calms me. That makes sense. I think the public would be surprised that you get on some of these shows, maybe every show, but the bigger ones, and you do have those butterflies, at least I do, and the most if you will. Anxiety you feel feeling as a broadcaster is just when you're coming on the air, just going through the blocking and tackling of getting the show started, particularly when they come to me on camera. It's it's not like the first t Jitters, but you know, maybe

a modified version of that. But everybody's so worked up, you've been preparing all week and you just kind of want to get on the air cleanly. And it made me better in that moment because it distracts me and it makes me think of my hero, my dad, And that's what it's all about. It's not any cheesy saying to try to create some sort of reaction. It was just born out of a son trying to pass along

a message that is that's awesome, Jim. That is like, man, I had not heard that story, and I'm pretty sure most people out there that are listening to us probably if not. That is incredibly inspirational, just another reason to watch you. And I think the best broadcasters are those that connect with the audience. And I mean you had that connection. That's why you're still doing what you're doing, you know, forty years into it with CBS, is because

of how likable you are. And I think a lot of times when you say that, I think you know, the audience looks at you as their friend. So when you say hello, friends, it's it's mutual and it's just one more reason to be in love with Jim. Nance Well, thank you know. I walked through airports and it's all of it is truly a little surreal. And again, I know I'm saying things that you can relate to. But when we wanted to get into this business, we got

into this business because we wanted to tell stories. We wanted to be at these big events and be the narrator of these things that we're going to unfold. It wasn't about being on television or radio or people knowing you or having a following, or people asking for a picture or your autograph. I've never even thought about any of that stuff that would be a part of it.

So it's still after thirty some odd years, it's still a little strange to get used to that people actually not everyone obviously, but people actually know you and they feel like they know you. And I can be walking through an airport and I can just get that shout out stadiums all with my hello friend, Hey friends, you know, kind of go around with it and it's a connection point.

But I hear it all the time, and it still catches me a little off guard, you know, dealing with some of the recognition, I guess is the word It comes with it the people. You go perform it, and you go you go do your shows, and you prepare all week, and you try to do service to the game and make sure the game is the thing and you're not the thing. And then you step out of it and you realize people like listen to you and they do feel like they have a relationship with you.

I'm honored that people feel that way, but I'm just saying, it doesn't matter how long you do it, it's still a little bit like I'm still the kid that never even thought about that being even any part of my life. And I didn't know that anybody would know who I was. I just want to be a storyteller. So the hello friends thing has become a way that people approach me. So I hear it all the time, and it's lovely,

it's nice, it's again. It all traces back to Done trying to trying to stay connected with his dad because his dad's mind was deteriorating. You talked about, you know, not being bigger than the show, and you never are. And I think you're as good as anybody at that. And that coincides with getting the best out of your broadcast partner, which is big part of our job is

to get the best out of the analyst. And and I you know, I know you get credit, but I don't think you get enough credit for the job you do with Tony Romo and allowing Tony to be Tony and getting the best out of him. If you did things differently, and maybe you know, tried to be the show, Tony wouldn't get to do what he does. And did you know that you did a mock broadcast of the Cardinals Cowboys Pro Football Hall of Fame a handful of years ago. Did you know right away that Tony would

you get the buzz that he gets. What was the process like of bringing him along into the booth? Well? That was That was an amazing evening. We were stuck in the corner of an end zone that was like forty yards back of the corner of the end zone, a little temporary well al Michaels. They showed it on the broadcast. They called it a deer stand. But that was one of eight games that we actually practiced. Three of them were on site, the one in Akron, one

in Charlotte, one in Oakland. Five were in a studio And this happened from mid May until mid August. We would do these rehearsal practice games. I gotta tell you, Dave, I knew the first time we did a practice game, it was on May seventeen, twenty seventeen, that he was good enough to go on the air right there and be one of the best for that show. For that rehearsal game. His instincts were so good and his enthusiasm

and excitement were just off the charts. You're right, I mean, we are trying I believe it's one of our primary responsibilities, if it's not number one, to be the ultimate set up guy in point guard for your analysts. Look, nobody does it better than you. With Bill Walton, it's to me, it's I don't have a choice, Jim. I don't have a choice, Jim. He just talks anyway. So I kind of left left and that's PA's awesome pairing. Um, but I I just I just I just think the world

of Tony and I don't really put any boundaries. This is what you need to do, this is what I need to do. It's not a dance step. It's two guys watching a game, and Tony has this ability to break it down faster than anyone I've ever seen. So this is year six. We've gotten here rather quickly, but it has been it's been just a fantastic ride. And like I said, I'm hoping for somewhere around another dozen years. That would make me happy. That would be about right.

A few more and we'll let you go, Jim. Um, and I really appreciate the time. Um. Tom Brady, whenever he decides retires going to go in the booth. I'm curious because obviously you spent a lot of time with Tom over the years. How you think he'll be as a broadcaster. Are there any other active NFL players? Because part of our job is we meet with coaches and players each week leading into the game that we're calling,

regardless of the sport. Is there anybody you think that's an active player, maybe even somebody that is off the radar, that's a younger guy that you think could do this if he wanted to. Well, the first guy that comes to mind for me is not a player, but a coach, and that would be Mike Comlin. I think Mike has the gift of expression like no one I've ever heard in football before. And by that I mean he says things a turn of a phrase that has I've never

heard it before. It's the exact opposite of cliche. Everything he says is new and fresh. His phraseology is it's incredible. I don't know how, and he does it off a cuff. If you watch one of his press conferences and hear and break down the game or what's going on with the team, his material is. His mind works really quickly. He's a brilliant guy, and I think if he ever wanted to do it. I think he could be I just think. I just think he could be exceptional. Now

we know this abount Tom. When Tom decides to do it, he's got the contract and you know it's all set up to go to Fox. But he will work as hard as anybody ever on trying to be prepared for these games. It's just the way he rolls, and he will go through. I would think one of those summers, like what we did with Tony, he'll do a lot of practice games. There'll be a lot of things that

he doesn't realize that are a part of it. By that, I mean meetings with the players, the amount of data that comes to you now, I mean, there's so many sources of information out it's almost information overload. But Tom will one all of that. So I think he'll be very good at it whenever that time comes. Have you heard Frank Caliendo's impressions of you and Tony? By the way, because Frank lives here and Phoenix, he actually lives. I'm doing this right now from the Cardinal's facility, and without

giving Frank's address away, he's close by. He came in studio last year and we had him call highlights of Cardinal Games. It was actually against the Rams and went against the Rams, and I would stop him in mid sentence and you know, throwout another name and he would have to adjust quickly on the fly and change the impression. Can we do Nance and Roma on one of these? Jim's gonna coach Jim. What's going on here? This is a great read. But Kyler paris coming in here. It's

gonna be tone is here we go jump Tony? He did you know, Tony? And you have you? Have you heard those from Frank? I've not only heard it, I hear about them all the time. And it was really at such a high level and frequency. It might have been two years ago that I actually sought him out and called him and thanked him. I said, I'm just getting so much feedback out of more than anything, I just want to let him know. I thought it was hilarious.

But he's got Tony down. It's a dead ringer. And he said that my voice was a little harder to replicate, but he does this shrieking high pitch here. I'll give it to you, Tony. And you got me laughing just thinking about it. What a talent. I just I wanted to see Franklin person. We almost cross paths here recently for one of his shows and in Nashville, but that that's still become great regard for him. I'm gonna let

him know. I'm gonna text him when we're done and let him know that you just because I don't know that he's heard your impression of yourself. Hey, I'm his number one fan. You please let him know. Um, all right, two more. Sorry didn't to keep you this long. I know you get other things to do. Yeah, we're good. Thoughts on the Cardinals. I know that you were working opposite the Cardinals game on Sunday and the loss to Seattle. You had the Cardinals Week one against Kansas City. What

are your thoughts on what's going on here with Arizona. Well, we saw a lot of what the season has been so far that very first week. It it just didn't seem as though the Cardinals were hitting on all cylinders. It just seems like something's amiss. I can't put my finger on it. But it's foreign to all the Cardinals faithful because they're used to this team jumping out of the gates and then struggling on the back half of the year. You know, maybe there's still time. I mean,

I'm sure there's still time. But maybe they're gonna maybe they're gonna streak into positively streak into the postseason. It'll take a lot of work now, I mean that loss to Seattle was a crusher for them. They go three games behind them plus the dead essentially four games back. There's the there's I don't I just don't know. Everybody battles injuries. I get that, and then again, they didn't get d Hop back until a couple of weeks ago, and Connor has been banged up. But it's just right now.

It's a strange year in the NFL. It's all upside down. We're dealing with it. Every week. We can't get a matchup for our a game where we have two teams with a winning record. In fact, this week we have Jacksonville at Kansas City as our number one game. Never would have guessed that Jacksonville at three and six at Arrowhead and that this will make now eight out of nine weeks for us we've had a matchup with at least one of the two teams with a losing record,

not even a five hundred record. One of the two with the least a losing record yesterday, Rams Bucks last two Super Bowl champs both with losing records. So you know, you start thinking about where the Cardinals are. The only solace you can find is you can look at where Green Bay is, what Tampa season been like. I mean,

it's just right through the league. It's the Rams in This's just everywhere you turn is like all of a sudden, it's like the league shut down for three years and nobody has any more positive momentum off of what they did the year before. And the older quarterbacks. That's not your issue there in Arizona, but the older quarterbacks, it's a struggle. It's just there's there's just not a happy

story there to be found. This last question, maybe this is a proper transition going from talking about the Cardinals to wine, just given how it's been a struggle and very stressful for a lot of people around here. The calls transition your wine label, your winery, the calling I've had the cab it was a few years ago. It was very very good. Tell me the genesis of this and how involved you are. Very involved. I own fifty percent of the venture with my friend and business partner

Peter Deutsch. This is something that I kind of had worked on, not talking about full time worked on it, but for a good ten years I was trying to figure out how to get into that space and talk to many people in the industry and visited wineries and vineyards and ventnors and try to get a handle on how that could possibly come about and have a label.

One day and lo and behold, I ran across Peter just serendipity at a restaurant in Connecticut, told him as my dream to somehow be involved in this, and I would be very involved, and we decided to partner up together. So we're in year eleven now, Dave. We're in five thousand restaurants nationally. We have great, great following in Arizona by the Way of Wine and all their stores and many restaurants. We're in all fifty states. And wine's a finicky thing, you know. It's not going to be about

your success, about who owns it. It's going to be about what's inside the bottle. It has to be good. And we are basically the gms, the owners or the coaches, however you want to look at it. I would say

our winemakers are our coaches. We're the gms, and that means we got to go out and get the best sourcing because we don't own the dirt, we don't own a vineyard, but we do source and buy grapes or we take if you will, leases out on blocks of vines at some of the great wineries in our country, and that's really helped put us where we are today.

That is, by the way, a very high percentage of the wine business today is sourcing, what we call it sourcing where you don't own the property, but you source your fruit. And we've had partners there that has been legendary vineyards like Dutton Ranch. And what happened now is we've had sixty somewhere approaching sixty five ninety plus point rated wines in ten years. That's and they're all spread across that Cab you mentioned, you know, the Wire and Chardonay.

So it's not like people can say, oh, that's a Chardonnay brand, that's a Cab brand, you know brand. We like the consistency and we feel like we've kind of at this point not getting ahead of ourselves, but we like the way we've built it. We want it to be multi generational Someday, his kids, Peter's kids, my kids will own it, and I believe it's going to be

around for a long, long time. The next time you and I have a conversation, let's make sure that there is a bottle of the Calling open as we assip and chat about life and broadcasting and just kind of like we did back because some fifteen years ago when you were kind enough to send over or drinking. Then come spend some time with my wife and I in New York. It's long overdue to do it again. And I will be in your neighborhood the weekend of the

Super Bowl. Not for the Big Game, we don't have it until next year in Vegas, but we'll be there for the waste management Phoenix open. It's going to be some time in Arizona. If you're not too busy, we'll have a chance to maybe get together and sip on that wine and chat. I'd love that, would love it. Jim, thanks so much for your time, my friend. Terrific. Thanks Pal. Really appreciate a Maria. Thank you. What a great sport.

Jim is hearing Jim do the impression of Frank Caliendo's impression of Jim and Tony in the booth, And how about the touching story of the genesis of Hello Friends. If you didn't love Jim Nance before, just man, that pulls at the heartstrings that he's talking to his father when he does that, and Jim is so likable on the air, and that story. I loved them already, but man, that story is incredible and it's just a big reason why Jim connects with the audience the way he does.

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