The Dave Pasch Podcast - Frank Caliendo

We're certainly going to find out more this weekend against the forty nine Ers. Our guest today is comedian Frank Caliendo A J. Green into the end zone for the touchdown. AJ Green just too strong, put it out there, let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. Green did. Frank has a unique bond with the Cardinals. We're gonna get into that. But of course we are going to span the globe of impressions, ranging from Jack Nicholson, Charles Barkley,

Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Bill Walton, and Ron Wolfley. So let's get right into it. Here's Frank Kelliendo The Day Pash Podcast. Basin audience, Are you ready for this? Are you ready for the Passpod? What they should have called It's the Passion Pod, Dave's Passion Project, That's what it should have been called. I don't even let you start the intern of your own show. We're off the rails. We just started, just like when you're broadcast with either of your partners. Yes, I know it is this. I

should have known this was coming. Do they ever do that? Do they? I am interviewing you on your podcast? Did they ever did? The guys? Because they don't. They're professional enough, not like me, but they'll they don't start being themselves until they let you set things? Is that for the most part? Wolf? Yes? Bill is Bill. I mean you've been around Bill, You've known Bill forever. He's liked that

off the air as well as on. Yeah, but I just yeah, because it feels like they don't They don't mess with you and make your life difficult until did you draw a really short straw? Is that what happened? Is that in your broadcast career, they like Pash can handle it. I think with Bill definitely. I don't know Wolf, Like I didn't know what I was getting into with Wolf.

I knew he was unique. Bill. I kind of knew because I actually did some NBA games with Bill my first year on the NBA in two thousand and six. He still to this day does not remember that. He claims, I don't know was that ESPN. It was at ESPN, and I don't Bill wasn't like as crazy then. He was still different. Like we grew up watching him on NBC with Snapper, him and Snapper Jones going at it.

And my friend Tom Tilbert used to work with him. Yeah, Tilbert and I worked with Tilbert too the first year and Tilbert and Bill were both you know Tilber. It's interesting too. Yeah, he's not as wild as Bill. There's no end. Yeah, he's like halfway to But the thing Tolber Tom Tolbert for peace on about sixty seven, played what with Charlotte? Is that? Where he played in college? Played the NBA for a while. Yeah, and uh, just

a banger, just a banger down low. I know. I'm stuck in Wolf trying to do well to how great is that? Bring it back? Enjoy who I am? Figure it out? Enjoying this's the Earth rotates on its axis. But he was the one who got me saying, oh dead lab shrim Like he would be talking about you know, John Stockton and Carl Malone could be on the court and he'd be like, Howard Eisley is the best player on the court right now, Like you're going, what are

you talking about? Oh? Yeah, what he compares. He'll take like just a random player and say that's that's Isaiah Thomas, that's Magic Johnson. You know, just I think one time he said, Bill he's on the bench right now. I know. Uh, Eric Piatkowski he said should replace Jerry West as the logo that one time. Um, well, I want to get Frank end all of this, but I did. Let's start

because you live. Not only do you live in Arizona, I'm not going to give out your address, but you live very close to the Cardinals facility and you've been connected to the team for a while. So give me your thoughts first and foremost on four and OZH. I'm cautious. I'm cautious with everything because I'm also you know, John Gruden, who's a friend of mine, who's become a pretty close friend of mine with the Raiders, and uh, you know, to tell you what, man, it was a tremendous loss.

Last night, we got a good what you call moral victory. No, I was thinking about sending something to Derek Carr because I didn't text him any motivation this week. But usually I'll send him something like, Derek, do something good this week. Man, I didn't do something. Does he enjoy that? He's never texted back, so no, he no, he's great. I actually said, I'm sorry I keep bothering you with this stuff. He's no, He's like, no, keep it coming. It's actually working. Yeah.

So that's the reason they were three and oh yeah, that's what I was saying, and then they lost that. But Derek are and Gruden. That goes back to it. I'm just telling you this to talk about how to get into the Cardinals thing. But that goes back to the first time I ever met or not met John. But the first time ever did Gruden makeup with Gruden was at a quarterback camp in Florida and Derek Carr was the QB one that week or whatever, so he was It was his birthday too, so we were singing

Happy birthday, man. Blown out the candles for young Derek Carr. Man, what a great I did a speaking engagement with Derek Carr when he was at Fresno State. Okay, what a great super see why people following indibly incredibly nice. Yeah, and people who say he's not a good leader don't know anything about him. He's just quiet to the press.

He's just a different time. So as far as with the Cardinals, what happened there was there's a broadcaster who also works NFL Network now, lant Zerline in Houston, and his dad coached the line here with the Cardinals, Larry Zerline, and he said, hey, do you want to get you know, Steve Cime's a fan of yours. And I'd forgotten come had gone to see me in North Carolina at a

place called Charlie Good Nights in Raleigh. And I didn't even remember all this, but um, they invited me out to come, you know, take a look at the you know, just hang out for a few minutes or something like that. And I did, and want you to bring my son whatever. And then when they were doing what was the Amazon show called All or Nothing? And I didn't have a ba impression. I had nothing, but I just had a hat.

I got a hat when I got here and I threw on a pair of glasses and I just started swearing. So I started was doing Gruden and stuff like that. He was still in broadcasting at the time. I go up there. I talked to the team and it's going pretty well. But then I put it can I swear on this or do you bleep it out? Or what do you do on your podcast? So, because I don't normally swear that much, but I just wanted you to weep.

So I put on the hat, I put on the glasses, and because it was BA I just got up there. I put it on and then looked at the team and went, what the for you guys doing out there? Man? That was the worst bunch of I've ever seen in my entire laugh Get to get to get your heads in the game, man. And I didn't even really have that much of the oppression. That just the look and Larry stood up, Fitzgerald and everybody was like a standing ovation.

They went crazy, you know, And since then, you know, you never know when something like that's gonna, you know, work or not. It's tough when you're going to people think that because you do comedy and they see you do it on TV or they hear you on a podcast or something that they think you could just do it anywhere. You go into an NFL locker room, that's totally different. You're not part of the group, you're not

part of the team. It's a little bit easier when you're inside and you've been through the trenches and you've done this kind of stuff and there's camaraderie. Right If somebody comes back to speak to the team, they're like, Oh, this guy was in the league for ten years. You know, he's won a couple of Super Bowls. He knows what it takes it, you know. I mean, I'm nussed. You know,

I'm some goofy little court jester come in there. So when you can do something that connects with the guys, you know, when I do that with the Raiders, I've done I've spoken of the Raiders twice and they won both games, and one was against the Cardinals a few years Hey, what's up with that? I'm I'm a mercenary. I'm a mercenary whatever whatever was needed. You know that

that they were they were playing terribly. That was a couple of years ago, and I remember going they were here in town and that was a that was an inseason game, a regular season game, and you just you could feel, you know, you're here, Gruten just swearing from the other room, and its knock gunn wood if you're with me, and there maybe a knock or two. I mean it was it was a down time and uh and they won that game. And uh, He's like, I'm sending you a game ball man, Like you're not sending

me a game ball. Three weeks later, I get a game ball, you know, spray painted with everything. I'm like, all these linemen go through life and no matter who they are, somebody somebody, some people never get a game boat. I have two. Now I have two, sending you another game ball man. So so let me tell you that. The other part of it is so then I coached flag football and Carson come won of one of Steve's kids was on the team. He played with my son for a little bit, so uh and he would even

text Scruten. He's, you know, during the game, a picture of me. I remember, I had a backpack on, and Crud's like, they're not gonna win an f and game with that guy coach. So um, you know, it's funny, how you see, because you don't think about the relationships that go on in you know, within professional sports. You think this GM probably hates this year. But they can't. They can't. They have to be friends, right, because then they can make deals when if you don't like somebody,

you're not making a deal them. And there's I get this feeling by just a few of the gems that I've met and some of the you know, some of the exacts that you know, there's a lot of people people on the outside looking how could they make that trade?

That's the stupidest trade I've ever seen. But sometimes they position it's like, well, you do it this time and then we'll figure something out in the There's a lot of that kind of stuff, but the the the end result might be something different because you don't know who's gonna last. Were sure. So there's there's a lot of trust between these guys and making deals and things like that. I mean, so, is it true that you called Steve Kim on Draft Day as John Gruden from like a

different number? No, that was the Yahoo Sports took that. It was my own number, And I texted him, you know the memos thing in the app. It's like it's hey, it's John Man. What do you say we trade, make a good trade. Uh. I don't remember who it was, but it's like, well trade up to number three, you trade for this, and then we're all everybody's happy, man, okay. And that got out. I think it was Dad Patrick or something like that that I took because Steve called in.

Steve called in and he was talking about it. But people only heard parts of it that I called him as John Gruden and then they made up the rest of the story that became like national news. Oh yeah, it was huge. Look that's what I remember, right as far as I knew, you actually called yeah my dad. My dad was texting me. I can't believe he messed up the draft, you know, you know I didn't he knew it was me. I would not mess with a friend in that situation and do that type of thing.

I mean, something similar happened. Uh what was that? What was the other thing that just happened recently? Oh? You know the people blew it down for board jj Wat. I texted jj Wat it's like, you should come here. You know. It's like, because I've known him for years, he and his brothers all came out. I remember him making fun of me because they had. I was really working on getting in shape at the time and I

was jogging a ton and I bought these shoes. I'm five six, and I don't try to hide that, you know, I am. This is what except for the heels you have on today. Well, the shoes I was wearing literally had like a They were Runners shoes that I got at the store right down the street here from the facility. And they were an inch inch and a half high that are like Runners shoes that are really soft. And

JJ looked down as Susan was really compensating. There aren't and his brother and I googled his brothers because they were still in college and even high school, I think, and I was like, you're the tight end and he was like in JJ's like what you're You've been googling. I'm like, yeah, a little bit. You gotta know who's coming in because they were. We snuck JJ Watt into the Riverside Theater in Milwaukee and nobody knew he was there. That's pretty good at the you know, he was well,

he was playing with Houston at the time, obviously. And I'm from Madison, you're from Waukeshaw, Walkershaw outside Milwaukee. And JJ's from Peawaukee, right, which is Wakashaw County, which is one, you know one you know, so you guys had that connection. And then so he was with the Texans and you he was back in Wisconsin and you were performing there and you, yeah, he was just in town and I tweeted at him something and he was following me, and then I DMed him and then maybe we exchanged numbers

or something like that. And you know, the more famous somebody is, the harder it is to get them to go somewhere or nail something down. Like I've been around some super super famous people and they're like, I'll try to get there, I'll try to get there, and then you just go they're not gonna come. And he was one that did end up showing up. It's it's one

of those that's uh. I remember saying to him. I'm like, we're talking about Lebron and how Lebron was the most famous, you know, probably the number one basketball player in the world, and this is right, JJ's big, but he's not, you know. But I mean JJ was not to where he was even that he was almost to the pinnacle being one of the faces of the NFL, but he wasn't quite there yet. And we're talking. I'm like, you're famous, but you're you know where I'm doing. You're you're not the

face of the NFL. And like another year later too, he was just the face of the NFL. But I remember I was wearing a I was wearing an Aaron Rodgers jersey, and uh, it was just so funny. It's like nice jersey. You know, he's just messing with me and stuff like what do you want me to do? Let me change, mister. So you so you started comedy? How Because you and I have talked, I didn't realize you were like a great basketball player. Well that's because I wasn't really well you just well you told me

you were. No, I wasn't great, but my friend played like Junior Olympic basketball and something that. So I was around a lot of the basketball players. But I wasn't a great basketball player. So how did you start in comedy?

Because so when I was growing up in Madison, I wanted to be a stand up comedian and I would go I had a friend who performed This was at age sixteen, so junior in high school, who would perform at one of the comedy clubs in downtown Madison, and on Tuesday night said have an open mic night, and he would get me in there st St. State on State Street in Madison. I was, first of all, was terrible. I think it was a funny business at the time,

funny business, comedy club. I can't remember anyway, I was terrible, terrible now I could see. Yeah, and so that's way too dry. Way to go be a broadcast or just go do something else. But how did you start? Because it has to be one of the hardest businesses to succeed in. You've been relevant as a comedian four in and out twenty years though. Plus that's hard to do. Man. Well, a lot of it's because I stick my nose in sports.

If there wasn't, sports probably be a little bit different of a story because it's hard to do sports comedy because when I don't think of myself as a sports comedian, but people are like footy is sports comedian, or you're great sports, and like it just happens to be one of the things they do. And the reasons because it's so funny to do analysts and you take them in

everyday situations and just do what they do in broadcasting. UM. So I went to school for broadcast journalism University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. I actually went to Parkside for a year, which is in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I was going to play baseball there. But I was like, ah, you know, I'm never gonna get anywhere playing baseball. It's a vision two and a couple of my friends ended up even getting drafted and stuff like that. But then I I went, I transferred,

I endered the transfer portal. I went over to uh University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee and went to school for broadcast journalism. So I went and got that degree. And while I was doing that, I went up I went to a comedy sports class, which is, you know, improv comedy games. And they're like these voices you do, you should do stand up and I was like, I'll try it. It does that mean I'm not very good at this improv thing?

They're like, well, it's just we could see the toolbox that you have that you could use, uh, you know, as opposed to baseball player, I was a zero tool player. Was it comedy sports? Because I tried that as well. The comedy sports was the improv yet a group so it was very tough, very difficult. Yeah, you have to you have to learn how to play the games, and it's there's a thing called yeah. And so you take what you don't see people in unless they're like super

high level and they know each other. You don't see people asking questions in improv. They just take whatever's given to them and they say yes, whether it's out loud or you know, internally, and they agree to it and then move on. So it moves. It always moves the scene forward, and that's one of the things that makes it work. So I did that a little bit, and then I went started doing stand up and the stand up thing just started to click. I was actually I

actually injured my back. I missed like months of school and stuff like that, and then I got away from stand up. I graduated, and then I got back out there and I just started working right away and then got on the college circuit. And in the meantime, I'd learned a bunch of different impressions that I worked on the maddened thing when I was doing the John Madden thing. That's what really took off, because nobody was doing stuff like that. Nobody would have, you know, a sports impression.

They go to a comedy club, you know, here's a guy when he but just contacts and he could see better, you know, and then people would be like, oh my god, you sound like and I listen to my old John Mann and sound like here's a guy. I'm like, it's just so bad, and people are like, it sounds exactly like. But then, you know, you become more like the person and you try to say the things that they say and say them the way that they say them, and then you add you add the then you add the

thing that makes them a character. Yeah, because there are people that do dead on impressions better than me. They are quite a few, Like I've seen here, these people that are in the industry that are sound alikes. I've never really wanted to be a sound like. No, it's it's more of a parody, but it is you sound enough alike. But it is more Yeah, it's more fun,

and it's more fun. It becomes a character that you've created, as opposed to when you do it dead on impression, all you can do is scenes that somebody has to be incredibly well written. I'm not that good of a writer, so uh, it's I just like to blow them up and make them sillier and bigger. I think I recall the story of Gruden getting upset initially or he wasn't well, I don't, yeah, I think people are always What happens is that people are always worried it's going to hurt

their bottom line. So they're worried that Madison Avenue is going to see them and not want to do commercials with them or something. What happens is the opposite that once you find a take for a person, they the advertisers, start watching what you do and then they write the commercials for your take on the person. So um, for example, Gruden, he would text me, you know, three o'clock in the morning, which I think is lunch for him. What time you get up one am? Then what time you go to bed?

Five pm? And he would takes me, I just got done doing a commercial where they had me doing impersonation you man, and I was too scared to ask him what that meant. But I think it was the one where he's talking to the tire and they probably said, be bigger, be more like Caliendo doing the impression of them, and uh, you know, that's that's it. Becomes a good thing. Barkley said that too. He's like, they I end up making more money because people here, people like you doing

this stuff. That's what when they hear it, they know what to write. It's very very good. So those things, those work and it works in their favor. But people who are in sports, they get weirded out about it because a lot of times they're put on pedestals, especially coaches. Coaches are put on pedestals and they listen. The guys lives around the you know, dependent upon the coaches and trusting that they can, you know, do their job. So you know, when you're alignment you I mean, it's dangerous.

So you got to have somebody you can look up to and stuff like that. You can't have somebody you know. They make fun, but again it's the brother the brotherhood and the camaraderie where they can make fun of guys, but you'll be careful with that kind of stuff. And I think there's a little bit of that in the sports stuff. People get weirded out that, hey, you're you know, don't make fun of you know, don't make fun of me. I gotta have these guys listen to me. I gotta

be a leader of men. Is there anybody that ever gets, like, really upset with you? Has anybody ever said, hey, don't do that anymore? Have you ever had yourself? Nobody has ever talked to me. But sometimes people won't look me in the eye. It's ridiculous. I don't get it. And I'm not going to give a name, but you could probably figure it out. Who graz is that? See? Why wouldn't Jim Rome? Wait, where'd you get that from? Why wouldn't he? Like? I would love it? Like if you

say it's it's the pedestal, it's the pedestal. A lot of you know, clones. He believes that, you know, people are looking up to him. I think I've never I've never talked to him. I think he's great. I've never talked to him. No, I was looking the other way. Now, you know it's I've never I wanted to because I listen when I was driving around doing colleges when I first started that. You just listen for things on the radio that this is in the early two thousands, late

nineteen nineties, early two thousands. You just listen to it for shows that at the time, we're on every stage wherever you went. That could be in the middle of Virginia and Rome would be on, or I'd be driving in North Carolina or Texas, Jim Rome would be on somewhere. So you look listen for a familiar voice when you're out there on the road all by yourself. Um, but no, I mean I don't know people that Madden hated me

until I met him. So I have the same agent that John Mann has, Sandy Montec, who used to charkh and he used to travel with Madden. He was like on the Madden bus for all those years and went from being like a stats guy basically to like one of the top agents in the business. And I was asking I told him that I was going to have you on. And so I know Frank from probably those initial well the meetings with John. Yeah, the way that I only met John Madden once, I only met him once.

And I tell the story my actor that he was he was. It was at the Super Bowl in Dallas, Texas, the Four Seasons Hotel, and Um, I was working to Fox at the time, and he was standing in the lobby and Jimmy Johnson standing next to him, and I'm like, and he was talking that Madden was talking to kids, so I didn't want to bother him. I'm like, this is probably his family, it's grandkids. I don't want my mother and I'm I say to Jimmy, I'm like, can you believe him? This closet? To John Manzi, what you

have met him? And he taps Madden on the shoulder and he's like, what is it in the look on his face? Saw him? He was like when Shaggy and Scooby see the bad guy pop into the barrel like Zinks like, hey, school, let's get out of here. Row. But I made his grandkids laugh and it was like a light bulb went on over his hands, like I get it now, you know. And I was like, hey, can I have my father in law was there and my kids and can they get pictures? And he saw

that I didn't dislike him. I grew up listening to John. There's been nobody ever better at that than him. And what people don't understand when they listen to a broadcast is how hard it is. And I don't want to take anything away from you as a play by play guy, but the color analyst is it's very difficult because you have to have you have to. You have to have

a very short memory. It's almost like a quarterback. You can't use last week's game and stories that you used in last week's game, as you can tell that same thing. You might have to say the same stuff. You may have to talk about the same types of things you've talked about a thousand times because it's a different audience that's coming in. And if you don't hit those moments, you look like you don't know what you're talking about and you look like you're not hitting on a point

of the game. Right. Um, I saw somebody putting out you know, memes of things that are always said, uh, you know, um, you know stories that you always hear about the players or God, I can't. That's one of my problems is I have zero recall ability for names. You would think with an impression, you know, when you do a bunch of places, you remember the names of people. I have none of it. No, I oh no, no, no, my brain you think Walton's bad. I'm just going, what's

his name with the beard? Looks like Connor McGregor, m a quarterback? Harvard, Oh, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick. It's that's the story. It's always Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. He's a hard he's smart, he went. You know, you hear that every game, and there's a reason because they some of us are watching all the games. But that's not who the main fan is, right, The main fan is watching their team. They watch a game a week. So you have to hit on some of these things when

that's the opposing player. I get people all the time on Twitter firery back of me, like, man, are we gonna hear again about this? I'm like, well, you know you've got a right because I think usually they measure things based on like ten to twelve minute segments. You have a new audience basically every every ten to twelve minutes, so you have to repeat your stories. You did a game with Bill and I are a portion of a game with Bill Walton. I'm going to stay there in

the whole game. And Bill wanted me too. I wish you would have too. It was great. I didn't want me out of there because we had to talk about basketball. You guys never talk about basketball. I don't know. I mean, it was like I think maybe a ten minute sad. It was a big game, as like Oregon it went viral. I'm went miniviral. I know, so you've experienced that being

in that chair. Even though you were in there to impersonate Bill, you were also analyzing, well, yeah, a little probably actually did the game, talked about the game more than Yeah he was remember what you said. He's like, this is the most Bills ever talked about the game, because he was actually trying to bring it back to more about the game. Because I was going off on crazy tangent. I'd actually done like a little bit of tried to do a little bit of color analysis or

a yeah, um in games years and years ago. I remember it was a Cub's Cardinals game that I tried to do something. I was like, I don't know, when did you hear that? That's coming out of my stomach? Yeah? That was okay. That was like a like like uh, I don't want to say gas bubble. That was like a gurgle that came from my sternum. Is that POSSI I don't know if that was an impersonation or just here wolf is in there based and onions. That sounded

frog like. So that that that that is what happens to your health when you keep doing Ron Wolfle, I guess that was something, but that was that was like, that was guttural. If I remember, there's like a gas bubble in the middle of it. Might be having a heart attack right now like the super fans like dear sweet happened? What's happening? All right? There's still more I want to get to about this, but we haven't talked about anything yet. We haven't. This has been like twenty

two minutes. So Jim M A hundred, our producer, came up with this idea where we take some of the calls from the game this past Sunday, the win over the rams where I'm talking and then wolf talk. So it's a play by play call and an analysis. Since you were just talking about what it's like to broadcast a game, and we want you to do it with different impressions. We'll start with one name and I'm just gonna throw out another name, okay, and you transition as

we go. So the first one you got the copy there, yeah, okay, first one is a Byron Murphy interception. Okay, So why don't we start that as Let's start it as Robert Downey Junior. Okay, So second in three nine minutes ago in the first when you're doing rumber Danny Junior. By the way, you've got to sound like you're burping halfway through every sentence. Maybe that gurgle will come back. It's

a fake handoff rolling right. Is Stafford looking back to the left, throwing a deep ball farside for the show on Jackson, and it's picked off inside the fifteen yard line. Alpacino, it's Byron Murphy. He's tackled around the twelve. Byron Murphy, the NFC defensive player of the week. We had two picks last week, gets one here on Stafford in the first quarter. Okay, so now this is Wolf talking to do it first as Wolf. Oh, Byron Murphy bated Matthew

Stafford to throw that ball and then broke on the ball. One. An unbelievable play from Byron Murphy, and slowly it's starting to turn into Jesse the body Ventura bated Matthew Stafford to throw it, all right, and the bay Sinonian are you bugging me? All right? And then I have one line after that. Let's do that line as shock man. Murphy's playing like a pro bowler. The first month of the season. It's pretty good. Okay, that's that's so good. All right, we need to come up with we need

to find like ten more of these. All right. So here is aj Green forty one yard touchdown catch against the Rams. Let's start that off as Bruce Arians Actually, I'm talking about dead at Murray and shot guns snapped the Kyler at a tiny little short set. See I did that. That's a nice little call, that short set by the little man right there. They doing a great word played by Dave Pass who knew he had it in him back there in Madison, Wisconsin. Moving it right

a little bit little bit. You see what he does there, short set, little bit now throwing deep fireside and is pulled in into five yard All right, hold on, I gotta grab myself a crown royal. Here. I have a little sipping dippy, little sipping dippy and dada oops, dude, Dipper Ruins finished the call as Jack Nicholson by his five yard line by a J. Green into the end zone for the touchdown. J Green just too strong, too big,

too athletic. Okay, now is Wolf to Tracy Morgan. What a great read by Kyler Murray to throw the ball. You got a scarecrow woman stick? Hold on, say that again, but say it is Morgan Freeman. What a great read by Kyler Murray. To throw the ball. You've got a scarecrow on a stick. Put it out there, let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. Green did. Okay? What does scarecrow on a stick mean? What does that mean? So? Okay, so that's gonna be like the scarecrow Wolf said, Wolf

said scarecrow? All right, But that's what I'm trying to figure out is what where his mind is? Is he in the middle of the poppies and the Wizard of Oz? What's happening? What is going on your basinonians? What is happening? Just don't throw water on him? All right? So can you say you've got a scarecrow on a stick one more time? In reference to A. J. Green? But can you do it as Liam Neeson? Let let's get there on a great read by Kyler Murray. To throw the ball.

You've got a scarecrow on a stick, Put it out there, let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. Green did. My head, yeah, those are those all kind of work, all right. How about let's do a little play by play as u some analysts. So let's do me on the Max Williams fourteen yard touchdown catch. Let's start doing that as mel Kiper talk about tremendous snap snapped, Kyler Murray, tiny little athletic ability, high risk in high reward. Do things you don't see in each other. Free step drop.

I'm adding things because I get back to the copyright here. Free step dropped, the tiny little steps, tiny little Kyler Murray taking a little steps the place over hold on. We're doing this a slow motion. Actually, this what's going on inside of my head. Free step drop loops it deep through the middle of the end his own Max Williams double accident and the ex single s in the Williams hangs it. He's a hit touchdown Williams over the middle,

got popped. But Kyler Murray with a beautiful touchdown throwing. At the end of the day, the Cardinals are back in front. Okay, let's do uh. Wolfe's response as John Madden, I mean, I mean, what are you gonna do when when Max Williams runs the seam on you want a great read by Kyler Murray. I mean, that's Kyler Murray just being Kyler Murray. Right there, he saw what do you need to do? And boom, he just made that happen.

All right? Can you do that again? Like the what are you gonna do when Max Williams runs the seam on you? But can you do that? As? Who have we not done yet? Do you want to do? Let's do let's do pick one? How about bella chick? What are you gonna do when Max Williams runs the seam on you? I'm want a great read by Kyler Murray. I'm ecstatic right now. This is I'm just blowing my tom. That's all right? How about um? Can we do Nance and Roma on one of these? Jim's gonna coach Jim.

What's going on here? It's incredible? What are you gonna do? And Max Williams runs a seam on you? What a great read? But Kyler muris coming, It's here, It's gonna be toe is he here? We go? Jump Tony all they really say. I guess Nance likes the somebody was talking to him about it because I can only do Jim Nance, Jim Nance. That that's closer, Jim Nance. It's

hard to do. Yeah, Yeah, he's got that because he's got that beautiful and he's got such he paints pictures with the language, but mine always turns into Adam West. I'll be like Jim Nance along with my pal Tony Romo to the bat Cave, Robin. You know, it's always when you do Pat sum Roll the thing I and I want you to do Pat. The thing I appreciate about your Pat some roll is you call a game as Pat some roll, like he would call a game like,

which would never be allowed today. You could never like no matter where you work, and you have like seventy jobs no matter where you or could you say to the ten to the five touchdown, there's no way that's the whole call. Like you've got it, like they want you an executive, be like fill some fill some air. You know Chris Berman once he said to me, goes, Hey, wouldn't you know what day? What do you do? Whenever

you move? You don't ever stop talking? Babe by b b b B big bi bib your facial the facial expressions that you do. Wait, but it's always comes jazz Gat made a bat made it. So would you believe if I told you that? Uh? First of all, when did you, Uh meet Bill Walton? When did When did you? I did an event in San Diego, I don't remember what remember what it was for, maybe a charity event, and Bill was there um and I said, and the people were like, hey, you can do the Bill impression.

But you know he's here and his back is sore, and Uh. I was like, well it's not I don't do these things to be mean. I do it to be silly. I think he'll get it, So I start going to the Bill. I remember being at Berkeley blanched a beard not connecting on my face. I could smell colors, I could feel sounds. Has there ever been a player better than left Shrimp? Yeah, like six hundred thousand. But then from the back I see a guy waving and towel hilarious. Continue this from the rest of the show.

That's what you have to do, unbelieved. So he totally got he had fun with it. I also saw him at I think I'm pretty sure he was at UM. Jim Gray had a birthday party in Vegas and it was the most famous group of sports people I'd ever seen in one room at the same time. Did you see who Jim Gray had? The two people he had with him at his Hall of Fame induction ceremony, Larry Fitzgerald yeah, and Mike Tyson. Yeah. That's like two ends of the spectrum of this personnel. But those are that

Jim has the greatest rolodex. And this was even better because in the audience was Larry King, doctor Jay Muhammad, ali U, Bill Walton, and there were a couple I mean, but it was so and Jordan was supposed to be there, but I don't think they could get him away from the tables. I mean it was I'm not even joking, Okay, No, they were like they were a crazy I mean, it was unbelievable the people that were there. So somebody, I'm not gonna say the name because I don't know that

I should, but somebody wrote a book. And there's actually two books now called the Bill Walton Mysteries, and they are it is a so apparently Bill and I after we call games, we solve crimes. There's one set in I think Seattle and the other ones in Maui. And so this first one here is called hold On Bill Walton Mysteries, Friend of the Devil. If you may have to read a page or two in some different voices.

Does he have are there parts where he's actually speaking or well, oh yeah, and there's there's he has Bill like in the book the character drinking beer, but Bill only drinks water. I'm serious, like Bill water and hot water and more water and bring water. I'm in pharmaceuticals Bill, That's what I said. I say, but it's weird. It's I'm trying to figure out. I'm totally springing this on your left. Yeah. I was just trying to think if there was a spot where, you know, if you read it.

I tried to shake hands with Fiddle, but he didn't notice. It was clear something was wrong. He said he couldn't talk with the other people around, so we brought him to our dressing room. I'm not sure if that's Bill even talking at this point. It doesn't matter anyway. I didn't know if you yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean we could read as Robert Dane Junior do the same type of thing before. It's you know you do that. We do all the avengers, I mean pharmaceuticals Bill. That's

what I said, Tony, I'm doing the all Avengers. I'll try to shake hands with Field book. He uh, you didn't notice. Thanks thor what are we doing now, Tracy? That's what I'm going to clear something was wrong. He said he couldn't talk with the other people, so we went and brought him to our dressing room. Roch stephen A, that's a classic like thing that old school impressions would do,

introduced the next guy. Stephen A thought the knoleum floor, the fluorescent ceiling, likes, what made made inards inards with with a with a with a hyphen. Why would we do that? At that point in the book of the Arena feels surprisingly school like. Talk about it. We walked past frame pictures documenting key Arena's pass, Glori's pictures, Sean Kemp, Garrett Peyton, and other members of the legendary Nanda's SuperSonics, various musical luminaries that performed here um luckily for me

or lucky for me. They were labeled Prince Bruce Springsteen, Nirvana, McLemore, and Pearl jam Very good, very good, try my best right. I just figured when this is so great, because I imagine just you be shaggy and you ask, Hey, Bill, would you do it for one scooby snack? So you go, Hey, Bill, Would you do it for one Scooby snacks? Is Bill? Would you do it for one Scoobies? No way, Bill? Would you do it for two Scooby second? Not a chance? Like would you do it for three Scooby snacks and

a tripled Egger salami sandwich? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah and a glass of water to bring it all down? All he ever has this water? Now he might be doing something else outside, but at least at dinner. So before we get out here, give me your thoughts on

four oh for the Cardinals. Yeah, listen, I'm I'm I'm enthusiastic, but I don't want to get too enthusiastic because I always feel like I'm the one in the universe that if I get too on board and too gung ho for somebody, that I'm going to tilt the scale and make it go backwards. So I think I think it's great. It's you wouldn't. Why would you want to be anything but four No? Especially in the division they're in to

beat the Rams is huge. The thing I worry about is Kyler needs his legs and his arm right if one of those things goes down, like if you if Tom Brady has a sore leg, you don't really worry about it because he doesn't move that much anyways. It's like you can do that. Kyler needs that whole package, and as small as he is, you're worry about him getting, you know, smashed. Now he seems to be eluding people

incredibly well. And the baseball players like he and Russell will have that ability to slide and anticipate when they need to slide. You look at somebody like Lamar Jackson, he looks more like a basketball point guard out there with some of the moves he does, and he takes some hits, he gets smashed. Kyler's trying not to get hit, and I think Lamar's trying to do that same thing. But for some reason, the baseball players have a little

bit more of that ability to get down. If you look at a guy um Herbert, like the just the sheer size and bone structure of a guy like Justin Herbert or Matthew Stafford, you know, I've met somebody. I've never met Herbert, but Stafford. I did a thing at the super Bowl in uh Indianapolis years ago. And Matthew Stafford, he was only like his third year in the leaguers. But he's a monster. Here I shook hand. I remember shaking hands with Boomer Asiason and his hands look were

like the hands of alignment. These are not normal sized human Aiman's massive, Like if people didn't know that he was a quarterback. You because of the things about Troy is he's a block all the way down. I mean, he's a dapper human being. He looks like a model, but he's he's just a thick human being. He's like a i'd say tree trunk, but that's gonna make you think of a somebody shorter. But he's he's like a

full on tree. He's like the tree and the you know, the hair is the branches, I guess, but it's you know, you see some of these people and they you can understand why they can take the hits. Russell Wilson is not a small you know, you compare a guy like Kyler and Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's a thick human being, bigger shoulders, bigger hands. He almost looks like a weightlift. Although if you look at kyler lower body pretty yeah. Yeah,

he's not a weak guy by any means. But I I think this year, um listen, I'm root I'm rooting for them because I like being friends with a GM first of all, and Steve keep the job for a long time. Um, I think that defensively, you know, they get after it this year. They feel more like a team I feel like, and I think that's JJ Watt. I think that's uh from I only I don't hear much. You know, I don't ask a lot of questions of Steve and stuff like that, and I don't think he'd

give me a lot of answers to information I bond anyways. Um, but the feeling I get that is that JJ that's a big part. And I've even heard you guys on the broadcast say that JJ Watts brought in to be a team guy. And I think that's you know, that guy's just an animal and when people that's infectious. When you've got guys on your team that like that, that never stopped, the motor never stops. Uh. You know, what do they say in the NFL? You know, there's all sports.

There are people that play the game because they have to play the game and it gives them a good check. And there are people that play the game you have to when it's something when they draft somebody. That's why they say, you have to love the game. It's a hard game. It's a very difficult game because the next day you have to wake up and deal with just

how we long you should say. You go into a closet and it's like somebody can beat you with a baseball bat for two hours, and then you got to come out of the closet and h and deal with that. And that's when they wanted to add the game. He's like, that's why players didn't want to add. You got to do a seventeenth game. I remember how he talking about that five or six years ago, and that was that

was his analogy about him. I even been ten years ago at this point, but that was his analogy because I was saying, why is one game so much bigger? He goes, you don't understand the stuff that people go through in these games just to get back to play the next week, right, And that's why the fact that Cardinals are four and oh it's great right now, they're the only unbeaten team in the NFL. But we've got to waste and there's gonna be adverse and there's gonna

be losses and injuries play. Yeah, you know DeAndre Hopkins. Some of the stuff that that man does, the pivoting that he does, what he will make a catch, make a step, pivot, do a reverse pivot that I don't see many people like. He's got moves that that aren't like anything anybody else does. He's one of the best route runners in history at the league. Right There's just things he yet and not just for yet the route and after the after the catch, the weird things that

he will do that you a man. You know, when you watch somebody make a cut, they're usually making a cut while going forward. He will actually stop and pivot and turn around and you're going, I don't think I've seen anybody do that. I mean aj Green J Green has been a huge addition to the team this year. Christian Kirk making big catches, and then Rondel Moore. I mean it's like Kyler Murray throwing almost to Kyler Murray somepint. That's that's fun. I mean, they're just fun to watch offensively.

I don't know what what people are gonna do to figure out how to stop them, because there it's it's listen. I don't want to compare them directly to the Chiefs because you know, Mahomes was at and Mahomes a struggling right now even but you know when he had all his weapons, especially two years ago. Who do you stop? Can you do? Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, man, I think that's that's a pretty good one. And it comes from people say Kermit the Frog. It's more Fozzy Bear's in there.

But hey man, I think that's pretty good. To your point, though, there are some things that Kyler can do that Patrick Mahomes can't, and there have been there are flaws on that Chief's team yet two consecutive Super Bowl appearances. What I'm saying is the Cardinals certainly have flaws. There are things they need to clean up. But if Kyler Murray keeps playing like this, the ascension that he is on right now, if he continues to play like this, I worry about a young guy getting too big of a head.

Because he's so good it's hard to you start to feel like you're invincible. I worry about that. My only thought on that was my point on the ascension is if he keeps going like this, I think the sky's the limit you can cover up any I mean, yeah, he's what he can do because I name another guy and maybe Russell Wilson, although Russell Wilson is not as

he's not quite as quick, but he's quick. I remember, you know, watching them just give the Seahawks, just give fits to the Cardinals with you know, you just you think Russell Wilson's about to be tackled. He runs three different directions and then his eyes are up the field. That's the thing about Kyler, tiny little kind of Marie. That's the thing about Kyler is his eyes stay up the field. He's not looking to run. He can, he

can navigate. It's like he's playing a video game. I know they say that, you know, video game play, but it's like he's looking at the screen in front of him and he's just he's playing it and while he's watching everything in front of him, and he will make the moves and he's watching things develop. You can't cover. You cannot cover DeAndre Hopkins, h Aj Greene, Rondelle Moore and Christian Kirk for a long scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

they're hitting tight end. That's why I said to you, hey, end of the season, bring Fits back and have him run some tight end rounds and you laughed at me. I'm like, listen, why not why would you not bring fits back near the end of the season. I didn't say it wouldn't bring him back. I'm not sure he wants to come back. Well he listen, if if it's a chance to get a Super Bowl, you know, I mean, i'd look at that. I don't know why you wouldn't.

I mean, if you maybe you can convince him. I'll talk. Yeah, I just think I brought jj wan here. But I mean you look at I mean, who how are you going to keep those guys covered? That's the thing about Kyler, And I say, you know, he moves around so much, he finds the open guys. Who else can do that at that level? I don't know. I don't think Lamar Jackson can can do that. I think Lamar Jackson his head goes down and sometimes he keeps it up and he makes a good, a decent throw. Kyler is looking

for the throw the whole time. His legs are spinning like the roadrunner. Man. That was a little grutin there. See you know, tell you what, man, they just have I was gonna say, I'll bet there are some times where you don't even realize it where you, as Frank Caliando becomes one of your characters. Well everything, it's not it's it's I think it's I think it's actually the reverse that there's a piece of me and every character that I do, and uh, they kind of do meld.

But it's it's a thing where people will hear I'll be like, you sound like Jack Nicholson. I'm just that's because I'm just talking at this that was actually Belichick. Is if I'm a little quieter like this, it's Bill Belichick. And then if you're just doing a little this, it's Jack. And if you force it that a little bit more becomes John gruten Man. Again the facial and this is an audio podcast, but the facial expressions are spider too. Why banana cream pie man? All right, lastly, tell everybody

all the stuff you're doing. What you got coming up where we can check out all of your great stuff, uh kaliandocast uh caliendocast dot com, uh Frank onstage dot com for all the live dates. Um, and that's about it. I've got a few other things that are in the hopper, so to speak, but um, nothing right now that I'm able to talk about I'm not coming, ok, not gonna be in the Phoenix area anytime soon. I know people listen to you all over the universe. Oh yeah, but hey,

you're apparently our biggest fan. You're you're retweeting and liking like every past pod. I'm the one who tries to make you forty five cents extra week uh in downloads? Um, yeah, no, I we're friends. I think it's appry to help out, you know, people that help me out and are are there when I'm doing something. I think it's great to

to reciprocate that. But I'm trying to think, Yeah, I'm I'm going to Irvine, I'm gonna do I'm doing just a couple of shows in Irvine and Oxnyard in California at the end of the month, like I said Frank onstage dot com for that. And there's there's some other TV stuff that is real close right now that it might be happening soon. So let's see what goes on with when you know and it's public, let us know so we can make sure to yeah and definitely put

it out there. Any other impressions that you're working on, like people that you've never done that you're starting to kind of practice to always. I mean, that's all there's. You know, I was doing a little bit of a Dan Campbell. You know. The thing is I'm rooting for Dan Campbell because it's tough in that line, but it ended up sounding kind of like super Dave but or Matt fully the motivational speaker. You know, We're gonna we're

gonna knock it. We're gonna knock there. Uh, we're gonna knock their knee caps off, and we get their kneecaps cut off, We're gonna bring them back up. We're gonna knock them down again. You know. So it's that, but it's fun to make them more characters. Um, you know, Uh, I'm trying to think if there's anybody else really the little bits here and there, I'm kind of and I'm thirty percent to figuring out Peyton Manning And it comes for the world from the word weird. He said weird.

He said, I can't do it right now, probably because I'm too hyped up. But uh, but he's like, you like, what's that's kind of weird? Kind of weird. It's in there. He's like, what was that sweater you're word it's kind of weird. I can't get it right now. It's kind of weird. Yeah, it's I gotta bubble in my throat's probably that gurgle trying to come back. Uh well, listen, man, I appreciate you coming in to do this and uh,

thanks again. Man. You're you're the best at what you do and you're so true and I want you to come on anytime you want. I'd love to come back any the podcast that I do. You know, it's me and John Holmberg, who's local here and uh, he's brilliant, He's unbelievable and the like he's he's he's like me if I didn't have a sense if if if I didn't censor myself constantly. So can you close this out with like whoever you want saying? Um, thanks for listening

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