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The Dave Kittle Show

Have you considered selling some or all of your healthcare business? Do you have an exit strategy or succession plan? Do you need a broker? Do you want to know how you can sell your business for top dollar? This show will give you the answers.Hi I’m Dave Kittle, Doctor of Physical Therapy and Owner of Concierge Pain Relief - Home Physical Therapy in Brooklyn, NY. Welcome to The Dave Kittle Show. Each week we talk to leading experts in healthcare mergers and acquisitions, and physical therapy private practice owners. This show will also give you proven strategies, actionable insights, and essential skills to buy or sell your physical therapy practice. And, if you like what you hear from the host, Dave Kittle, then it's possible that he and his team, The Fieldmaker Group, may be interested in acquiring some or all of your physical therapy practice. Connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davekittle

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Episodes

$105K for a PT? Too Much or Just Right?

Why do so many physical therapy clinics shut down within 5 years? Is social media ruining physical therapy careers or saving them? Is 'small and profitable' smarter than scaling to 10 clinics? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on YouTube for Physical Therapy Conversations con...

Jul 02, 20251 hrEp. 335

Why Small Clinics Are Thriving in a Big Business World

Is growing a clinic to 10+ locations actually worth it anymore or is small the smarter play? If Instagram followers don’t pay your bills, should PTs stop trying to build personal brands? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on YouTube for Physical Therapy Conversations connectin...

Jun 27, 202544 minEp. 334

Leverage Points For Your Next Lease Renewal with Elliot Dennis

How can healthcare tenants create leverage during lease negotiations or renewals? Would you sign a lease that keeps you financially liable after you sell your practice? How much money are healthcare providers leaving on the table by not negotiating their lease terms? In this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave talks with Elliot Dennis of Dennis Healthcare about real estate strategies for healthcare practices. He shares insights on NYC market trends, the value of tenant representation, and how ...

Jun 25, 202541 minEp. 333

How a $720 PT Visit Happened (Legally)

Is insurance killing the value of your physical therapy practice? Would you rather earn $125 quickly or $500 slowly? Which business model wins? This crossover episode of CashPT Headquarters features Ben Bagge and Dave Kittle from the Dave Kittle Show. They break down the differences between out-of-network billing and cash pay models in physical therapy. Dave shares how his team delivers home and on-demand care in New York City, as well as the challenges and benefits of managing insurance billing...

Jun 20, 202542 minEp. 332

Bad vs Good Debt From the Physical Therapy Moneymakers

How can debt be used strategically to grow or acquire a physical therapy business? Is going into debt for a DPT degree still worth it in 2025? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on You...

Jun 18, 20251 hrEp. 331

Trying To Invest In Broadworth's Fuel Health & Wellness

Would you give up 25% of your business if it meant guaranteed success? Is it time for physical therapists to stop relying on insurance forever? On this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave talks with Eric Broadworth of Fuel Physical Therapy about growing a PT practice. They cover one-on-one care, pay models, and the challenges of opening new locations. Eric shares his goal of becoming the largest out-of-network provider and talks through possible partnerships and consulting-for-equity ideas. Th...

Jun 13, 202555 minEp. 330

The $60,000 Billing Mistake Too Many Owners Make

Why do so many private practice owners struggle to let go of roles like billing, even when their business is growing? What should a practice owner do after a bad experience with a billing company? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on YouTube for Physi...

Jun 11, 202551 minEp. 329

USPh Financial Report & Net Profit of a Staff Physical Therapist

Is hiring a full-time PT still worth it if your clinic only nets $50K from them a year? Could your next $100K be better spent on digital products instead of another employee? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneu...

Jun 06, 202511 minEp. 328

ChatGPT Sent Me a New Patient Referral

Is AI the new Google for finding local healthcare providers? Is publishing niche, high-quality content still effective in attracting ideal patients? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast ...

Jun 04, 202518 minEp. 327

Stop Undervaluing Your Work

Should physical therapists stop accepting insurance and start treating their clinics like highend fitness or wellness clubs? If manual therapy requires the most skill, why are we still giving it away at insurance rates that value it less than a gym membership? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, ...

May 30, 20251 hrEp. 326

Your Patients Love You. So Why Are You Broke?

Does being a great physical therapist actually hold you back from becoming a successful business owner? What should physical therapists focus on to effectively market and grow a new mobile or niche practice? If you had zero marketing budget, would you hustle or stay stuck? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritat...

May 28, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 325

New: Physical Therapy Market Report 2025

Why is private equity aggressively acquiring physical therapy clinics despite declining reimbursement rates? What must small and medium-sized PT clinics do to survive and thrive in the evolving healthcare landscape? Are small physical therapy clinics doomed if they don’t add cash-pay services? In this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave breaks down a new market report on the US physical therapy industry. He highlights stats like average clinic revenue and the $53 billion market size, and discu...

May 23, 202517 minEp. 324

The Ad Strategy That Still Works in 2025

Would you rather spend $6,000 of your time on social media content or $2,000 on ads that actually bring patients? Is it unethical to use flashy equipment or gimmicks like shockwave therapy just to get patients in the door? In this episode, we talk with Will Boyd about how PTs can use paid ads to grow their practice. He shares how he moved from treating patients to helping business owners with marketing and finance. We cover what makes ads work, why knowing your numbers matters, and how to avoid ...

May 21, 20251 hr 2 minEp. 323

Built a Clinic. Broke Anyway? Here’s Why…

What do you do when you're a great clinician but struggling to run a profitable practice? Can you fix profitability issues without adding more services or chasing new ideas? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur...

May 16, 202527 minEp. 322

Why "Covered by Insurance" Is Sinking Your Practice

If Medicare only pays for the "bare minimum," why are so many clinicians still giving away their best work for free? What if you stopped seeing Medicare as the full solution and started using it as the entry point to a better experience... would your business survive longer? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Marit...

May 14, 202530 minEp. 321

Sword Health & It’s Fake iPad Will Fail

Can you create a connection and value through a screen? What’s more important for retaining top clinicians: higher pay or more control over their schedule? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pi...

May 09, 202558 minEp. 320

Recruitment, Valuations, and Leadership in Healthcare

People don’t quit jobs... they quit leaders! Is it really your job to make your employees happy or just to build a place where they can be happy? If you could start a business inside your business… what would you build first? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, priv...

May 07, 20251 hrEp. 319

Exploring HIMS, and HERS Growth Strategies

What would happen if physical therapists spent 45% of their revenue on marketing like billion-dollar startups do? Should physical therapists start thinking like marketers… or will that “sell out” the profession? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on Yo...

May 02, 202559 minEp. 318

Medicare vs. Concierge PT: Which Model Will Survive?

Is the traditional 60-minute, one-on-one physical therapy session outdated—and are 10-minute, $30 visits the future of care? Are PT 'mills' really the villain or are they just delivering what the market actually wants? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private pra...

Apr 30, 202557 minEp. 317

Why Your Physical Therapy Business May Be Un-Sellable

What common issues make a physical therapy or healthcare practice difficult to sell? How can practice owners improve the appeal of their business to potential buyers? In this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave talks with Ruth Mannschreck, a business coach and retired dentist, about why some physical therapy practices may be hard to sell. Ruth explains common issues like relying too much on the owner, a single referral source, or one key employee. They also cover what makes a practice stand ou...

Apr 25, 202517 minEp. 316

Why Waiting to Tell Staff About a Sale Can Backfire

Why is it risky to wait until after a business is sold to tell your employees? How can business owners prepare their team for a future sale without creating panic? In this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave talks with Ruth Mannschreck, a retired dentist turned business strategist. Ruth shares lessons from building and selling her dental practice, including key mistakes she made. She stresses the value of involving employees early in the sale process to keep morale up and make the transition e...

Apr 23, 202524 minEp. 315

Burnout, Billing & Bold Opinions: The PT Debate Gets Real

How should physical therapists adapt to declining insurance reimbursement and systemic changes in healthcare? Is telehealth or virtual physical therapy a viable long-term model for care delivery? Can physical therapists continue to use the “physical therapy” label when providing services beyond traditional rehab care? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at ...

Apr 18, 202559 minEp. 314

Can PT Compete with Digital Health?

What is the controversy surrounding Hinge Health’s approach to digital physical therapy, and how does it reflect broader changes in the industry? Will traditional in-person physical therapy practices survive as technology and payer models shift toward efficiency and value-based care? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (T...

Apr 16, 202558 minEp. 313

How to Connect with Golfers Today!

What specific marketing strategies are being considered for promoting physical therapy services to golfers, and how should these be targeted to address both pain and performance enhancement? How can physical therapy practices effectively use direct mail flyers to engage potential clients, and what considerations should be taken into account to maximize the impact of these campaigns? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, ...

Apr 11, 202525 minEp. 312

Turning Insurance Challenges into Opportunities for Growth

What are the main reasons behind implementing the Multiple Procedure Payment Reduction (MPPR) by Medicare, and now by commercial insurers like Blue Cross Blue Shield in Michigan? What are the practical impacts of MPPR on physical therapy practices, and how can practices adapt to these payment reductions to maintain profitability and patient care quality? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy ...

Apr 09, 202530 minEp. 311

Optimizing Patient Care Through Innovative Billing Practices

What strategies are used for managing revenue cycle management (RCM) in an out-of-network billing scenario? How does one transition a physical therapy practice from an insurance-based model to a self-pay and out-of-network model effectively? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Jimmy McKay, Director of Communications at Mount Sinai Hospital and Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical...

Apr 04, 202553 minEp. 310

The Future of Physical Therapy Part 2

What are the benefits and challenges of transitioning from a traditional insurance-based model to a self-pay or out-of-network model in physical therapy? How do concierge physicians handle referrals and what practices are used to maintain and nurture these relationships? In this episode of The Dave Kittle Show, Dave Kittle talks with Dr. Michael Gorman about shifting physical therapy practices from insurance-based to self-pay and out-of-network models. They discuss the importance of identifying ...

Apr 02, 202539 minEp. 309

The Future of Physical Therapy Part 1

How do private practices adapt to out-of-network and self-pay models? What strategies can be employed to attract and retain patients in a self-pay physical therapy model? This week's The Dave Kittle Show episode, Dave Kittle welcomes back Dr. Michael Gorman on another podcast episode. He is the Founder of iMove PT, a physical therapist, private practice owner, and entrepreneur. He started St Louis Physical Therapy in 2002 and grew it to 7 locations. After 15 years, Michael sold his 7 clinics to ...

Mar 28, 202533 minEp. 308

Redefining Patient Care with Advanced Treatment Techniques

What are the challenges of adopting a cash-based or out-of-network model in physical therapy practices? How does specialized equipment like the Neufit device enhance the treatment offerings at a physical therapy clinic? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintca...

Mar 26, 202534 minEp. 307

Transforming Patient Care with Neubie Technology at Performance PT

How does Jacqui's clinic manage to attract patients from all over the country and even internationally? What led Jacqui to expand her clinic's use of the NeuFit technology from one unit to multiple units? Join us for a special crossover session, "The Breakfast Club," originally recorded on PT Pintcast. I'm your host, Dave Kittle, alongside Anthony (Tony Maritato) Maritato, a seasoned physical therapist, private practice owner, and online business entrepreneur. Tune in to PT Pintcast on YouTube f...

Mar 21, 202525 minEp. 306
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